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If you feel an error has been made, please contact support@oftc.net, thanks. (2007-05-07 12:57:54)] 12:57:55 <helb> uh 12:57:57 <helb> wtf? 12:59:12 <Belugas> a quick spammer 12:59:48 <TinoDidriksen> Quickly dealt with too. If only Blizzard would implement something like that... 13:04:30 <Zr40> it was automatically dealt with 13:10:34 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-133-71-162.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:12:20 *** RobertGrammig [~Unke@134.2.187.55] has joined #openttd 13:13:40 <RobertGrammig> will knowledge in c# help me to program stuff for open ttd? 13:14:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> only if you can adapt c# knowledge to c or c++ 13:15:56 <Patrick> probably not. 13:16:08 <Zr40> No. 13:16:36 <Zr40> the only similarity between C# and C(++) are the control structures (in other words, basic stuff) 13:16:46 <Maedhros> nice opinion gradient there :) 13:17:15 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 13:17:38 <hylje> something in me wants to implement python bindings for ottd 13:17:49 <hylje> plugins :O 13:17:56 <Patrick> mmm, python 13:18:12 <Zr40> take a look at boost::python 13:19:04 <hylje> i no it 13:19:09 <hylje> but havent dug deeper into it 13:22:44 <hylje> would be rather kewl to have python blobs taking part in ottd innards 13:23:10 <Patrick> how, though 13:23:16 <Patrick> what would be an application for it 13:23:38 <hylje> functionality? 13:23:55 <hylje> pluggable patches? 13:24:06 <Patrick> yeah, what sort of functionality 13:24:18 <hylje> i dunno 13:24:24 <Patrick> if it was something that got executed every game tick it'd be too slow 13:24:37 <hylje> event-based? 13:26:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9806 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: [NewGRF] Add callback 36 support for purchase cost, for all vehicle types. 13:27:54 <DaleStan> And do you really want to add a second set of add-ons that have to be identical for MP safety? 13:28:29 <hylje> yes 13:28:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> he's insane, remember? 13:29:04 *** Cipri [~cipri@i86151.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:29:57 <hylje> the infrastructure for plugins like that is very much manageable 13:30:08 <peter1138> DaleStan: presumably it could have an advantage from the start that they could be sent to the client by the server 13:30:13 <peter1138> unlike grfs, with all their restrictions 13:30:19 <hylje> yes 13:30:42 <peter1138> i'm not doing it though :p 13:30:54 <hylje> and to prevent malicious use, clients could have the choice to only run peer-approved plugins, which are digitally signed 13:31:09 <hylje> i *might* be doing it, but thats not likely 13:32:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> and what kind of signing mechanism do you think is "open-source-safe"? (i.e. not easily forgeable) 13:33:05 <valhallasw> public-key 13:33:08 <DaleStan> So you're going to willfully restrict the valid plugin licenses? That doesn't quite seem like the Open Source ideal. 13:33:27 <hylje> python as it is now cannot be sandboxed 13:34:09 <Maedhros> you don't have to restrict the licences - you could just have a "redistributable" variable in the plugin 13:34:10 <hylje> and the licencing part is just about free use, instead of the licence mess we got with newgrf 13:36:43 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:37:08 <DaleStan> And enforcing free use is not something you should be doing. 13:37:27 <hylje> why not 13:37:32 <hylje> its about convenience 13:38:55 <DaleStan> No, it's not. It's about choice. Users, and programmers, should always have choice. We can hope that they will choose free, but enforcing it will merely give more ammunition to anti-free-use parties. 13:39:14 <eJoJ> and we have 4x1600*1200 openttd =D 13:39:22 <hylje> by that logic i suppose GPL is bad? 13:40:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> please don't go there... 13:40:31 <hylje> however, it is just silly to be able to have closed or restricted code in a GPL'd framework 13:41:06 <DaleStan> Oh? So it's silly for gcc to be able to compile, and glibc to be able to run, closed-source code? 13:41:20 <peter1138> yes, if you're RMS :D 13:42:24 <DaleStan> Fortunately, RMS doesn't seem to visit this channel too often. 13:43:24 <peter1138> thank god 13:43:32 <hylje> glibc is lgpl 13:44:14 <DaleStan> Or maybe better: "It's silly to have Linux releases of closed-source software?" 13:44:14 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-155-166.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:53 <hylje> okay, let me rephrase: have closed or restricted code linking to GPL software 13:45:03 <hylje> which is incompatible due to gpl 13:45:17 <hylje> unless private use iirc 13:45:51 <hylje> but in case of multiplayer-enabled plugins that's distribution 13:46:16 <DaleStan> I think you'll have a hard time arguing that a python script is somehow linked (in the preprocess/compile/assemble/link sense of the word) to the OpenTTD binaries. 13:46:42 <hylje> it can be argued, but it calls and uses resources provided by ottd 13:47:02 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-17-139.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 13:47:04 *** boekabart_ [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has joined #openttd 13:47:12 <DaleStan> Does not newgrf do the same? 13:47:24 <hylje> i see newgrf as data 13:47:28 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 13:47:28 <boekabart_> !logs 13:49:51 <peter1138> hello boekabart_ 13:49:53 <boekabart_> hi 13:49:57 <peter1138> any ideas on the flooding? 13:50:24 <boekabart_> Yeah, but I've had my inlaws visiting until yesterday, so haven't touched the PC much 13:50:35 <boekabart_> just at work, and there i actually have to work a lot 13:51:05 <boekabart_> I just got the first grf file from leppka, first thing is to use it 13:51:50 <boekabart_> I'm actually not so sure that with the 'high sea level' patch, the river/lake support is such a good idea. The flooding danger is too big, that makes it useless in multiplayer, i'm afraid 13:52:16 <hylje> its awesome enough to be dealt with :-) 13:52:24 <boekabart_> Plus, it's out of scope: I just wanted to raise the water level by 1 so you'd be able to tunnel under shallow water 13:52:26 <hylje> rail beside river bank for instance 13:53:06 <boekabart_> I've been playing around with a more 'realistic' water patch, that actually works with sub-tile water levels 13:53:25 <hylje> tides?! 13:53:37 <boekabart_> it floods more realisticly... but the graphics part of it is a huge challenge 13:53:44 <boekabart_> hylje: yes, totally possible 13:53:48 <Belugas> boekabart_ 13:53:55 <Belugas> nice job 13:54:03 <Belugas> on the diafonal patch 13:54:10 <Belugas> by the way 13:54:20 <hylje> diafonal? 13:54:23 <hylje> s/f/g/? 13:54:29 <boekabart_> i hope so :) 13:54:36 <Belugas> diagonal... 13:54:37 <Belugas> gaaaa 13:54:42 <hylje> faaaa 13:54:54 <boekabart_> it's not my work, but i like it enough to spend some cleanup time on it, to make it a more probably candidate for trunk 13:55:32 <boekabart_> like probably everyone, i've had the idea in my head for ages, but never got around to making it. 13:56:43 <peter1138> why does timidity use up 40% cpu? 13:56:47 <peter1138> playing midi isn't that hard... 13:57:05 <eJoJ> Can you add support for higher resolutions in some time not so far away? gonna get boring compile for every new game started at openttdcoop 13:57:46 <Patrick> higher resolutions in what way? 13:58:03 <eJoJ> screen resolution 13:58:07 <Belugas> boekabart_, we all like that patch. on the conceptual side, of course. Code-wise, it's still not there yet 13:58:12 <Patrick> what do you mean 13:58:20 <Belugas> but it's (imho) a darn good candidate for trunk 13:58:20 <Patrick> it's just a window, can't you resize it as big as you want? 13:58:32 <eJoJ> it's hardcoded as max 2000*1900 or something 13:58:51 <Patrick> ... why? 13:59:30 <eJoJ> dunno why they have maxed it at so low, now I compiled and played at 4 screens 1600*1200 13:59:40 <boekabart_> Belugas: I'm (and the original author is, I guess) willing to spend time on it, if I get the feedback on what's not OK yet. 14:00:09 <Patrick> "they" are right here, you could just ask :) 14:00:17 <boekabart_> eJoJ: and maximize/stretch window doesn't do it? 14:00:21 <boekabart_> Topic: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=19311 14:00:59 <eJoJ> nope, openttd.h #587 and #588 14:01:04 <Belugas> boekabart_, already started to work on that ;) 14:01:17 <boekabart_> damn he's right, stretch doesn't go bigger than 2000 or so 14:01:25 <peter1138> 2048x1200, yes 14:01:34 <boekabart_> an maximize doesn't want to on windows, it maximizes on 1 screen only 14:01:38 <Belugas> boekabart_: micomico and you have already cleaned up nicely :) 14:02:46 <boekabart_> eJoJ: I guess the reason is to save memory on the DIRTY array 14:03:37 <boekabart_> gfx.cpp line 62. 63 14:04:14 <eJoJ> boekabart_: how large would the difference be for lets say6400*4800 14:04:28 <boekabart_> 6*4=24 times as big :) 14:04:34 <boekabart_> sprry. 3*4=12 times 14:05:11 <peter1138> overall, not that big 14:05:17 <boekabart_> now:4800 items, then : 6000 14:05:18 <peter1138> 60000 bytes instead of 48000 bytes 14:05:21 <boekabart_> 60000 14:05:24 <peter1138> er, 4800 bytes :/ 14:05:26 <peter1138> lol 14:05:28 <boekabart_> yea 14:05:30 <boekabart_> well 14:05:40 <hylje> sounds rather trivial 14:05:40 <peter1138> both got it wrong :D 14:05:53 <boekabart_> change request to match 2007 situation? 14:06:13 *** Vikthor [novotv6@pc304-59.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 14:06:26 <boekabart_> any dev willing to risk his neck on this one? ;) 14:07:31 <Patrick> anything on-screen has to be drawn as well 14:07:37 <Patrick> much more cpu intensive 14:07:45 <Patrick> I don't see why that'd stop it from being drawn though 14:07:52 <hylje> usually people using a load of monitors also have the resources to draw it 14:08:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-17-139.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:12 <boekabart_> but that doesn't affect performance with constant screen size 14:08:13 <eJoJ> <-- cluster =D 14:09:00 <boekabart_> well actually... 60k might cause more cache misses than a 5k block 14:09:15 <boekabart_> so it may actually decrease performance 14:10:15 <boekabart_> isn't 3200 x 2400 an acceptable compromise? OR can the dirty array implementation be changed with dynamic size? (makes it a bit slower also) 14:11:19 <boekabart_> Belugas: just played around a little with the diagonal patch and there's something not quite right. it increases the size by too-big steps i think. You cannot get a 3-tile selection, for instance, only even numbers. 14:11:20 <eJoJ> The 6400*4800 was just an example, and that includes 8 monitors on 1600*1200 14:11:33 <boekabart_> eJoJ: 4x4 = 16 14:12:03 <eJoJ> right, should have walked to bed 14 hours ago or something 14:13:18 <eJoJ> but 3200x2400 should be enough for some years 14:13:57 <Frostregen__> why not make a "maxres" config setting and allocate memory accordingly once? 14:14:06 *** Frostregen__ is now known as Frostregen 14:17:27 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:17:27 *** Vikthor [novotv6@pc304-59.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:17 <boekabart_> Frostregen: Good idea. Can you make a patch? ;) 14:24:57 <Frostregen> sure... if this has any chance of beeing accepted ;) 14:25:50 <boekabart_> there are devs here, ask them :) 14:26:02 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:26:09 <elmex> hm 14:26:23 <boekabart_> Anyway, I think eJoJ should open a topic on it on the forum first, it's his wish. 14:26:26 <boekabart_> bye now 14:26:30 *** boekabart_ [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has left #openttd [Back to work, back to work, everybody, work work work work!] 14:26:30 <Frostregen> this was an implicit question 14:36:38 <peter1138> new services... hmm 14:36:53 <peter1138> less or more annoying, i wonder 14:37:43 <hylje> omg services 14:40:30 <Zr40> you use them daily? 14:40:46 <Zr40> other than nickserv identify, that is 14:44:21 <elmex> someone told me that transfering eg. coal with trucks will mess up my income - don't know why he said that ;/ 14:45:44 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-185-210.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:47:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> transfer has been fixed recently 14:49:45 <Digitalfox> Hello! 14:50:05 <hylje> i wouldnt say fixed, rather "improved" 14:50:10 <Digitalfox> Damn it's hot 32ºC in Portugal.. 14:50:57 <elmex> hm,ok 14:51:04 <elmex> what was wrong weith transfer? 14:51:16 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:51:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> it was just broken... 14:52:09 *** mode/#openttd [-o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 14:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> except for the most basic setups, transfer-money and point of origin were not propagated properly 14:53:55 <elmex> hm, ok 14:54:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> the only thing that is still not possible is two way transfer systems 14:54:22 <elmex> whats that? 14:54:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> e.g. airport: 14:54:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> you bring passengers with busses 14:54:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> and take away the passengers that arrive by plane 14:55:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> this will not work 14:55:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> this will need passenger destinations 14:55:46 <elmex> hm, because the airport wouldn't accept passengers in the firstplace? or hmm... weird 14:56:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, on the airport you mix passengers from the busses and passengers from the planes 14:56:33 <elmex> oh, right 14:56:46 <elmex> so you would first have to transfer them from the airport and then to 14:57:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> it will just not work at all, 14:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can either bring the passengers with busses, or take them away with busses, never both 14:58:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> the busses would take the passengers away that they just brought 14:58:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> same for the planes 14:58:41 <elmex> yes, right 14:59:14 <elmex> one would first have to completly transfer the passengers _from_ the airport and make it empty before transfering new passengers to it.. and thats not really possible i guess 15:00:03 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:18 <elmex> hm, it's good to hear thjat it works. extending station artificial to reach nearby producers is just .. well it sucks 15:01:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> for goods that only go one way, transfer should work correctly 15:02:15 <elmex> :) 15:02:38 <elmex> i;ve read about the passenger-destinations thingie in the forums i guess. would be awesome 15:02:52 *** Cipri [~cipri@i86151.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:56 <elmex> but i've also heard of voices saying that the game shouldn't become too complex 15:03:36 <hylje> the game will be simple to understand 15:03:47 <hylje> but the underpinnings can be very complex and elegant 15:04:01 <elmex> hm 15:04:23 <hylje> you can play paxdest games without caring about the passengers themselves that much 15:04:34 <hylje> they work mostly as you would expect in real life 15:04:51 <elmex> well, eg. when industries only accept certain amounts of stuff i have the fear that the micro-management will be too much 15:04:59 <elmex> heh 15:05:01 <elmex> yes 15:11:20 <Belugas> real life sucks 15:11:23 <Belugas> in every way 15:11:31 <elmex> mostly, yes 15:12:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> you will be able to switch off passenger destinations in difficulty settings 15:12:42 <elmex> yes 15:12:50 <elmex> that would be indeed nice 15:13:35 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:13:37 <elmex> i've played railroad tycoon (was it version 2? i dunno...) once, and higher difficulty levels brought more complexity with them. eg. you have to take care of amounts of cargo ... 15:15:50 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:16:53 *** maddy [~maddy@88-136-70-61.adslgp.cegetel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:08 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:18:17 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-17-139.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:35:46 <peter1138> pomtepom 15:35:53 <TrueBrain> pomPIEdom.... 15:36:25 <peter1138> lalala 15:36:28 <Sacro> wtf 15:36:34 <peter1138> what? 15:36:34 <Sacro> nickserv is screwed 15:36:47 <peter1138> 15:35 [oftc] -OFTC(stu@oftc.net)- [GlobalNotice] Hi all! OFTC is proud to announce that it is about to launch its new services. 15:36:56 <Sacro> bah 15:38:31 <ln-> lilo spam on oftc?? 15:38:59 <Sacro> ln-: lilo dead 15:39:00 <TrueBrain> this aint spam, this was very much needed information for everyone :) 15:39:04 <Sacro> he got k-lined 15:39:09 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/blog/?p=8 <- as promised 15:40:19 *** moe [~Maui_key@p5498F068.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:07 <elmex> TrueBrain: thats interesting 15:41:11 <elmex> good to know 15:41:17 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:42:56 *** moe [~Maui_key@p5498CA13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:01 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:14 <Sacro> hmm, this BUILDOTTD looks good 15:47:55 <TrueBrain> it sure does 15:48:15 <TrueBrain> it has been a while that I have seen an idea this good and simple come around :) 15:49:30 <Sacro> i wonder... 15:49:39 <Sacro> i might look into it, and see if i can help it 15:49:53 <TrueBrain> "if I can help it" 15:49:54 <TrueBrain> sounds odd.. 15:52:32 <Sacro> does it? sounds fine to me 15:53:12 <TrueBrain> I am sure peter1138 can explain what I mean (if he understands :p) 15:54:18 <peter1138> with it 15:54:37 <Sacro> hmm, with could be added 15:54:59 <TrueBrain> peter1138: I was more looking why this is wrong :) I can explain in Dutch, but not in English :p 15:55:27 <TrueBrain> bleh, languages are tricky :) 15:58:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9807 /trunk/src/ (ship.h ship_cmd.cpp train.h train_cmd.cpp vehicle.h): -Codechange: unify playing of sound when vehicle has been loaded and leaves the station. 15:59:21 *** eJoJ [~Aim@89.10.21.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:37 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 16:04:02 <peter1138> "Normally people wait until binaries arrive (and then that is always too late because the testing has been done then)" 16:04:27 <peter1138> people can't be arsed to get the nightlies but will compile? 16:04:29 <peter1138> hmm 16:04:45 <hylje> depends on the people 16:05:53 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:06:51 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:07:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:07:28 <Wolf01> hello 16:09:44 <Sacro> yarr 16:13:49 * Wolf01 prods Sacro, do something usefull, bring me a coke 16:14:08 <Sacro> liquid or powder? 16:14:12 <Wolf01> liquid 16:14:39 <Sacro> i will e-mail you some 16:15:28 <Wolf01> ok, thank you 16:15:47 <Wolf01> time to sync the drag&drop remove station 16:18:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:18 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9808 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: unify the Handle<VehicleType>Loading functions. 16:22:39 *** setrodox [setrodox@83-65-237-83.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 16:24:27 <Wolf01> how much would be usefull a set of station creation patches? 16:25:35 <Maedhros> hmm. if only gmail properly supported fixed-width emails... 16:34:51 *** kaan [jfk@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 16:34:56 <kaan> hi all 16:38:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9809 /trunk/src/ (build_vehicle_gui.cpp ship_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: [NewGRF] Add callback 36 properties to purchase lists and add running cost changing for ships. 16:48:40 <Wolf01> http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/patches/dd_remove_stations_9809.diff another usefull patch, mp safe 16:48:46 <kaan> so i guess this is the zen idle moment? 16:52:48 <Wolf01> seem so 16:53:05 <kaan> :) 16:54:04 <peter1138> Wolf01: drag 'n' drop removal? 16:54:35 <Wolf01> yeah 16:58:41 <Belugas> like when building? 16:59:11 <Wolf01> yes 16:59:22 * peter1138 cleans it up 16:59:25 <Patrick> ooooh 16:59:31 <Patrick> yeah, I've wanted that for ages 16:59:58 <Wolf01> i've it done for a long time 17:04:10 <peter1138> bloody gui.h change 17:04:20 * peter1138 waits for half the source to recompile :p 17:05:07 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 17:05:41 * Zuu remembers when he wrote up globals on a paper and waited untill the list was long enough before he added them too save complie time. :) 17:10:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:10:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9810 /trunk/src/ (gui.h rail_gui.cpp station_cmd.cpp): -Feature: Add drag and drop removal of station tiles (Wolf01) 17:11:13 <Wolf01> lol, quick, many thanks XD 17:12:29 <Maedhros> ooh, i was just thinking how useful that would be. fantastic! 17:13:31 <Maedhros> on an vaguely related note though, changing english.txt is not fun... 17:13:35 <peter1138> hehe 17:14:11 <peter1138> Wolf01: shit, sorry, i forgot we're supposed to sit on it for 12 months... 17:14:38 <Wolf01> don't bother, my next patch will make you to do it so 17:14:50 <peter1138> heh 17:15:26 <Wolf01> my "next"... the adjoin stations patch of this night 17:15:37 <Maedhros> i'm just working on that :) 17:15:58 <Maedhros> ... i say working, i mean "waiting for it to compile again" 17:16:54 <Wolf01> this time you were quick as the TGV 17:17:48 <Maedhros> what do you think? http://devs.openttd.org/~maedhros/adjacent_stations-r9806.diff 17:18:14 <Maedhros> i've added a patch option and the ability to build over a station if it's adjacent to another one 17:18:39 <Wolf01> i hope it won't make the other station a ghost 17:18:52 <Wolf01> like this night 17:19:00 <peter1138> ghost stations :D 17:19:05 *** Cipri [~cipri@i86151.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:19:40 <Maedhros> heh, how do you mean "a ghost"? 17:20:22 <Wolf01> i mean that if you cover an existent station with the new one 17:20:27 <Wolf01> the old station disappear 17:20:36 <Wolf01> and you can't destroy it 17:20:39 <Wolf01> or extend it 17:20:49 <Maedhros> ah. no, you can't build over more than one station 17:21:00 <Wolf01> that's what i mean 17:21:13 <peter1138> if allow adjacent is on, can you build over just one station? 17:21:35 <Maedhros> yes 17:22:10 <peter1138> so it's broken then :p 17:22:29 * Maedhros is lost :p 17:22:31 <Wolf01> you can replicate the "bug" by removing the if (HASBIT(p1, 24) & est != INVALID_STATION) return CMD_ERROR; 17:22:48 <Wolf01> from my patch 17:23:03 <peter1138> Wolf01: he has, heh 17:23:11 * peter1138 compilifies to test 17:23:19 <Wolf01> but you was the mind :P 17:23:48 <peter1138> besides, there are no bugs 17:23:53 <Maedhros> hehe 17:23:57 <peter1138> that's just the way it's written :D 17:26:29 <peter1138> ah, no ghost stations 17:26:34 <peter1138> it just ignores ctrl 17:26:40 <peter1138> which imho is wrong 17:26:57 <Maedhros> hmm, what would you have it do instead? 17:27:11 <peter1138> error 17:27:19 <peter1138> if overwriting 17:27:36 <peter1138> hmm 17:27:55 <peter1138> i see 17:29:23 <Maedhros> if it give an error you can never change the adjacent part of the station without removing it first... 17:29:34 <Maedhros> *gives 17:29:53 <Wolf01> that's right 17:30:12 <peter1138> another issue 17:30:28 <peter1138> you can't build up stations out of difference pieces 17:31:08 <Wolf01> and why not allow ALWAYS to change a part of a station also if there is an adjacent station? 17:31:10 <NukeBuster> NickServ REGISTER woutertje wouter@mailware.net 17:31:22 <Maedhros> heh 17:31:35 <NukeBuster> lame 17:31:39 <Wolf01> ... 17:49:22 <Maedhros> i'm not sure i see what you mean about not being able to build stations out of different parts 17:50:47 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:51:17 <Wolf01> just avoid the check for "adjoins more than one station" if there is a station in all the tiles under the area 17:51:41 <Wolf01> and if is the same station 17:51:46 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 17:51:49 *** prophet [~prophet@p548DD678.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:52:23 <prophet> Hi why can't airplanes carry other goods then mail and passenger in 1960? 17:52:30 <prophet> was this allways like that? 17:52:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-17-139.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:36 <prophet> or can i change somehow 17:52:56 <Wolf01> maybe you need a grf set 17:53:19 <prophet> as far as i know this was possible without 17:54:18 <Wolf01> i know that standard airplanes aren't refittable to oil and another thing, maybe something broke it 17:54:54 <prophet> but why? 17:56:38 <Wolf01> i don't know, i usually play with av8 17:57:08 *** prophet is now known as prophet05 17:57:20 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 17:57:48 <prophet05> and the planes in av8 can transport wathever i want? 17:59:06 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Aqualung, a great music player for gnu/linux: http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/ **SPAM WARNING**] 18:00:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r9811 /trunk/src/lang/ (american.txt danish.txt dutch.txt): 18:00:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-05-07 19:59:41 18:00:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: american - 11 fixed by WhiteRabbit (11) 18:00:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: danish - 11 fixed by ThomasA (11) 18:00:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 9 fixed, 2 changed by Zr40 (11) 18:00:06 <prophet05> Wolf01: no they cant transport goods of any kind... 18:00:10 <Wolf01> no, all seem to transport only mail, passengers, goods and valuables 18:00:17 <prophet05> but why? 18:00:30 <prophet05> i allready testet in 200 but thy cant there either 18:00:44 <prophet05> 2000 i mean 18:00:55 <hylje> soviet aircraft for coal transport \o/ 18:02:13 <Zuu> IRL-question: Conventional highspeed trains can do 2 (or is it 4) degree of slope in full speed of 200 km/h. Now supose a Maglev can do 500 km/h and 10 degrees, will the G-force when going from 0 degrees to 10 degrees be to big to make it confertable to ride that Maglev? 18:02:13 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-185-210.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 18:03:24 <Zuu> I though I could calculate the G-force by: sin( slope ) * speed, but I guess I'm wrong because that gives 86 G for the MagLev and 6.9 G for conventional highspeed train. 18:03:55 <Zuu> => sin(2)*200 = 6.98 18:04:05 <hylje> we dont care 18:04:17 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:22 <Zuu> => sin(10)*500 = 87 18:04:23 <hylje> for all we know concordes have a few hundred G on deceleration :) 18:04:27 <prophet05> hylje: there are no sowiet planes that can 18:04:48 <Zuu> hylje: I was not thinking about OTTD, I was thinking about real world use of MagLev. 18:05:06 <hylje> prophet05: oh i heard rumours 18:05:32 <Zuu> Some claim that maglev can do 10 degrees and therefor we can save money as less tunnels are required and so... :) 18:06:26 <prophet05> hylje: what? 18:06:42 <Zuu> But aparently my physics skills are not soo god when I get 7 G on a convetional train which is obviously wrong... 18:07:35 <Rubidium> sin is in radians 18:07:56 <prophet05> not on a calculator 18:08:00 <Zuu> Rubidium: sin can work with degrees on my calculator. 18:08:22 <Maedhros> and the result is unitless anyway, which means what you're actually measuring is the speed vertically 18:08:27 <Maedhros> not the force 18:09:25 <Zuu> hmm.. F = ma, ... so I need vertical acceleration.. I suck on physics :) 18:10:32 <prophet05> what about the planes now? 18:10:55 * Zuu stops spaming #openttd with IRL-issues :D 18:13:57 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 18:14:51 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:14:55 <ln-> Zuu: are you trying to count the G force only with sin(angle) times velocity? 18:17:50 <Zuu> ln-: Yes 18:18:18 <peter1138> that seems a bit simplistic 18:18:36 <ln-> the unit of sin(x) * velocity is velocity (m/s), not m/s^2 as it should be, first of all. 18:19:15 <ln-> and second thing, you seem to be happily multiplying [km/h] and expect to get results that are sensible as [m/s]. 18:19:38 <Zuu> But I relize that the track will not change angle on a single point but on say 100 meter and the length of this have to be translated to some vertical acceleration factor... (my guess) 18:20:25 <Zuu> ln-: Okay, many stupid things I've done :) 18:23:23 *** prophet05 [~prophet@p548DD678.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23:26 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 18:24:11 <ln-> you probably should be doing the calculation by using angular velocity/acceleration, or something. 18:25:32 <Wolf01> Maedhros, how's the work with adjoin stations? 18:26:15 <Maedhros> stalled for the moment, until i understand the issues peter1138 brought up... 18:28:12 <Wolf01> i show them to you 18:28:42 <Wolf01> wait for some minutes to compile and set up the game cam 18:28:50 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:31:25 <Thomas[NL]> cd o* 18:32:47 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 18:43:25 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:47:10 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 18:50:46 <Wolf01> Maedhros, can you play wmv movies? 18:51:44 <Maedhros> hopefully, unless they're encrypted, or anything strange like that :) 18:51:44 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:52:34 <Wolf01> i can't find a software to compress a little the .avi 18:53:37 <Wolf01> i have only windows movie maker and some other softwares, but they make only little videos where you can't see what's happening 18:54:00 <Wolf01> or at least they should make them well if i want to learn how to use them 18:54:19 <Wolf01> http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/patches/ghoststations.wmv 18:54:41 <hylje> what 18:55:58 <boekabart> Wolf01: xvid might be a free option to make avi's? 18:56:03 <Maedhros> ooh, my internet connection's pretty slow today 18:56:08 * Maedhros blames his housemates 18:56:18 <Wolf01> no, that's hosted on my server 18:56:34 <Wolf01> i have only 256kbps of upload 18:56:54 <Maedhros> ah, ok 18:57:01 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:09 *** glx|away is now known as glx 18:57:22 <Maedhros> Wolf01: was this video made with your patch or mine, btw? 18:57:31 <Wolf01> my one 18:57:38 <Wolf01> without the check 18:57:43 <Maedhros> oh, ok 18:57:55 <Wolf01> if (HASBIT(p1, 24) & est != INVALID_STATION) return CMD_ERROR; 18:57:56 <Maedhros> you can't make ghost stations with my patch anyway... 18:58:05 <Wolf01> i hope that 19:00:16 <Wolf01> i should download virtualdub also on this pc 19:01:00 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 19:02:50 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:03:56 *** Zr40_ [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:03:56 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:50 *** Lex [~22@217.148.52.203] has joined #openttd 19:07:56 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:26 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:08:41 <Lex> óäàëåííàÿ Ðàáîòà â Èíòåðíåòå!!!áûñòðûé àáñîëþòíî ëåãàëüíûé è ãàðàíòèðîâàíûé çàðàáîòîê âñåãî çà 1,5-2 ÷àñà â äåíü íå âûõîäÿ èç äîìà 19:08:41 <Lex> ïîäðîáíîñòè òóò:: http://www.stroyanch.boom.ru 19:08:53 <peter1138> really 19:08:56 <Wolf01> eh, yes 19:09:08 <peter1138> i'm so pleased for you 19:09:12 <Sacro> i think his utf-8 is broken 19:09:18 <Sacro> or mine is 19:09:19 <peter1138> however, to really get your message across, use UTF8 :p 19:09:35 <peter1138> Sacro: russians seem to despise utf8 19:09:53 <Sacro> peter1138: well... how does he expect us to read it 19:09:57 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:34 <Sacro> Lex: you might wanna use utf-8, at least then we can read your spam 19:15:19 <Maedhros> peter1138: i'm still a bit confused. how would you want adjacent stations to work? 19:15:46 *** Lex [~22@217.148.52.203] has left #openttd [] 19:16:22 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.107] has joined #openttd 19:17:30 <Biff> http://discrete.eimot.no/~magne/openttd/no_unwanted_news_in_backlog.patch did anyone look at this? 19:18:00 <Desolator> i have a problem getting 2cc in ottd (using nightly) 19:19:49 <Desolator> i replaced the SH188 (or whatever the temperate DMU is called) with my 2cc dmu, but only the 1st is shown, the 2nd is shown as pure green 19:20:18 <Maedhros> heh, do you have a screenshot of that? 19:20:39 <Desolator> yes 19:21:04 <Desolator> sending via DCC 19:21:13 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21:24 <RobertGrammig> I think using station spread to decrease arrival time of goods / increase distance reward is very lame, but I dont want to forbid building large stations in general 19:21:57 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:22:08 <RobertGrammig> is there a patch/grf that makes it that a) reward is based on the closest station tile distance b) effective arrival time penalizes for distance from industry to arrival station? 19:25:03 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:18 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:26:30 <Desolator> http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6292/bucurestitransport21stfbo5.png --> 2cc not owrknig, only 1cc is shown 19:26:37 <Desolator> *working 19:26:49 <Desolator> warning! big scheenshot (1280x1024) 19:27:32 <hylje> Desolator: iirc base grf doesnt support 2cc? 19:28:21 <Desolator> not sure 19:28:25 <Desolator> i don't see why 19:28:40 <hylje> because they're straight from ttd 19:28:43 <Maedhros> is this a grf you've made yourself? if not, what is it? 19:29:00 <glx> 2cc is a newgrf feature 19:29:36 <Desolator> it's a hack to trg1r.grf 19:29:59 <Maedhros> then no, it won't support 2cc 19:30:02 <Desolator> will it work if i load it manually? i'm too lazy to go throguh all the nfo 19:31:06 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:26 <Maedhros> it'll only work if you set bit 1 of the miscflags using an action 0 19:31:59 <Desolator> ummm... 19:32:03 * Desolator goes to ttdp wiki 19:33:32 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:35:36 <Desolator> so what are miscflags? 19:37:38 <Maedhros> these: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Trains#Miscellaneous_flags_27_ ;) 19:39:38 <Desolator> thanks 19:42:20 <peter1138> heh 19:45:07 <peter1138> rubadub crumble in the oven :D 19:45:36 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 19:45:54 <Sacro> peter1138: i got bramble crumble 19:45:55 <Sacro> tis nice 19:46:15 <Maedhros> mmm 19:46:20 * Maedhros needs some more flour :( 19:48:25 <peter1138> Wolf01: 19:31 < Mucht_> ah r9810 seems to be pretty important to us 19:48:34 <peter1138> just so you know ;) 19:48:46 * Belugas needs to call wife to see what's for supper 19:48:59 <Wolf01> :) 19:49:16 <glx> Belugas: you don't like surprises ? 19:50:16 <peter1138> maybe he has to purchase the ingredients to cook it for her :) 19:51:15 <Belugas> glx : those guys just gave me some cravings :) so if wife has not decided what to cook, i might give her some pointers :D 19:54:42 *** RobertGrammig [~Unke@134.2.187.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:58 <Belugas> peter1138 : we have enough ingredients to satisfy even your needs ! 19:55:34 <Belugas> except mint sauce and lamb.... but i'm not too sure you are a stereotype guy ;) 19:56:35 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 19:57:06 <peter1138> hmm, no-newgrf game 19:57:09 <peter1138> how rare 19:58:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7027.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:02:30 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0928.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 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Well my notebook is no longer abble to run my savegame ( too many trains, ships, airplanes, roadvehicles and stations spread ), the CPU is 100%.. So to try to avoid this next time, can i install openttd in my home server and run it like a multiplayer game, but just for me and make the CPU of my server run openttd, and everytime i want to play enter with notebook in... 21:58:23 <Digitalfox> ...server game? 21:59:09 <glx> client need the same CPU amount as server (they both do the same things) 21:59:09 <kaan> well, i dont know, but i dont think that would make much of a difference 21:59:32 <Patrick> no, doesn't work 21:59:35 <Patrick> you can delete all your ships 21:59:44 <Patrick> there was a thing about the ship pathfindering going v. slow 21:59:59 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl4-211-7.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:00:09 <Digitalfox> ok.. Patrick: That's already disabled 22:00:41 <Digitalfox> I think i have my options already optimized, i'm not using any patchfinding or even sound and music 22:01:14 *** NLVF-Tealc [~IRCFuture@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:25 <Patrick> I thought some pathfinders were more cpu friendly 22:01:38 <NLVF-Tealc> goodevening 22:01:50 <Digitalfox> Well my notebook is a P4 3.06 with bus 533... But with a map 1024*1024 and a lot of veghicles and stations, well... 100% 22:02:18 <Digitalfox> My Desktop P4 3.2 HT Bus 800 just uses 53 22:02:24 <Digitalfox> 53% 22:02:32 <Digitalfox> So right now i can only play in desktop 22:02:36 <Patrick> looks like you bought at the wrong time :) 22:02:45 <Patrick> go to someone's castoff amd64 22:03:05 <Patrick> play with a smaller windows. 22:03:11 <Patrick> that sounds crazy but it might help 22:03:17 <Patrick> (smaller window) 22:03:24 <Patrick> are you running screen maximised in all cases? 22:03:29 <Digitalfox> Well the notebook runs at 1280*800 windows mode 22:03:50 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:03:56 <Digitalfox> I mean like a window maximez, not full screen 22:04:19 <Digitalfox> The desktop the same but at 1280*1024 22:07:02 <Digitalfox> So the CPU used in server and client is the same, theres no gain in the client by having a server running the server mode? 22:09:36 *** myrka [~myrka@noorus.aklubi.ee] has joined #openttd 22:09:52 <Patrick> no. 22:10:07 <Patrick> all that happens in network games is that everything gets synchronised 22:13:32 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip147.cab56.mus.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 22:13:40 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-89-217-17-139.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:14:20 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-17-139.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:14:37 <Digitalfox> ok, thanks for answering my question ;) 22:15:32 <RobertGrammig> i once got a page in the wiki that showed time sensitivity of cargo types but cant find it now someone got it? 22:15:43 <Rubidium> network games use slightly more CPU with YAPF than SP games 22:16:17 <Rubidium> Patrick: try turning off NPF and YAPF for ships to speed up your game 22:16:22 <Rubidium> and the AI 22:16:36 <Rubidium> and do not enable improved loading and gradual loading at the same time 22:16:55 <Patrick> it's not me who wants help 22:16:57 <Patrick> ask digitlafox 22:17:17 <Rubidium> ;) 22:17:26 *** ammler_ is now known as ammler 22:17:27 <Rubidium> s/Patrick/Digitalfox/ 22:19:02 <Digitalfox> Thank you Rubidium, well NPF and YAPF are off.. AI is also disabled, and improved loading agradual loading is disabled also :) 22:19:15 <Digitalfox> *and gradual 22:19:36 <Rubidium> what version are we speaking about by the way? 22:19:40 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:19:53 <Digitalfox> nightly 9552 22:20:04 <Digitalfox> The last before newgrf change in patch 22:20:58 <Digitalfox> Since i use a USB pen or flash drive", it gives diferent letter to the USB, so i still use this build 22:21:29 <Digitalfox> Oh and windows version :) 22:21:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> what was the reasonig behind the absolute paths anyway? 22:21:49 <Rubidium> can I assume you didn't compile it yourself? 22:22:53 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: preparations for 'multiple' paths, i.e. scanning home directory, shared user directory and installation directory for GRFs etc. 22:23:16 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:23 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: It's an oficial night build :) 22:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it should really be possible to use relative paths... 22:24:17 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: the problem is relative to what? 22:24:37 <Rubidium> working directory? home directory? directory where the application is in? 22:24:41 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:01 <Rubidium> *directory where the binary is in 22:25:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> whatever would help with the varying drive letters thing 22:25:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> so probably working directory (which should default to the binary dir) 22:25:46 <Digitalfox> My problem is that i have openttd in my USB pen.. And i use it in some PC's, and the letter changes like, k:\openttdd, on another h\:openttd.. So the newgrf pach in config file gives error of not finding the newgrf 22:25:46 <Rubidium> but it doesn't... 22:26:01 <Rubidium> working directory is not per definition the directory where the binary is in 22:26:30 <Rubidium> neither is the directory where the binary is in of any use when that's /usr/bin and the data is in /usr/share/data/games/openttd/ 22:26:45 <Rubidium> and some other grfs are in ~/.openttd/data/mygrf 22:26:47 <Digitalfox> If it worked like this in config file, like \data or \negrf and not searching before it woruld work, but this way is complicated... 22:26:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, but in windows, if you click on the application, the working directory gets set automatically 22:27:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i realise it will not be a complete solution 22:28:04 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: that would mean windows users CANNOT place their data files in $HOME/openttd when they have installed it in $PROGRAMFILES/openttd 22:28:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> why? you can easily divide absolute paths from relative paths 22:29:10 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: Could there some kind of asking question when starting openttd to select the patch of newgrf, this option would be cativated in options menu.. 22:30:10 <Rubidium> newgrf data and non-newgrf data directories are not decoupled 22:30:56 <HMage> why not specify search directories in config files? 22:31:01 <HMage> default is . 22:31:06 <HMage> or data 22:31:19 <HMage> and keep paths relative 22:31:19 *** myrka [~myrka@noorus.aklubi.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:42 <Rubidium> HMage: does not work in both OSX and linux variants 22:31:48 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:54 <HMage> Rubidium: but it did in quake 3 22:32:01 <HMage> quake1, quake2, etc 22:32:44 <Rubidium> maybe it works for user data, but for OSX when starting a binary by double clicking '.' equals '/' 22:33:05 <HMage> Rubidium: the default is hardcoded, which means it can be platform-specific 22:33:06 <Rubidium> anyway, we have also installed 'data' which is *also* in the data directory 22:33:35 <HMage> replace '.' with 'current directory symbol for that platform' 22:33:51 <glx> openttd.cfg contains only absolute path for windows 22:34:03 <NLVF-Tealc> Hello 22:34:11 *** RobertGrammig [lkqnsmk@h678631.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:34:21 <Rubidium> HMage: for OSX '/' is the current working directory in some cases 22:34:48 <NLVF-Tealc> Is it possible to run openttd from an usb-stick? 22:34:59 <HMage> Rubidium: details, details. I am trying to tell the idea that there's no need to write whole absolute path for each newgrf. 22:35:07 <glx> NLVF-Tealc: yes ut is 22:35:36 <Rubidium> but it's basically a 'windows' bug that is stores the full path 22:35:41 <HMage> NLVF-Tealc: but you'll have to specify newgrfs anew each time you move openttd from place to place (or put it on different systems) 22:35:55 <Rubidium> because on my system it's still relative 22:36:12 * glx goes look the source about that :) 22:36:41 <Rubidium> NLVF-Tealc: what HMage tells you only applies when you play nightlies under Windows 22:36:57 *** RobertGrammig [rrmitf@h678631.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #openttd 22:37:31 <HMage> NLVF-Tealc: right, sorry. 22:38:03 <NLVF-Tealc> OK Then I will try to play it on my work :-) 22:38:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> Rubidium: what about relative to the same dir, that contains openttd.cfg? 22:38:29 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB7027.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 22:38:31 <Rubidium> so $HOME/openttd/ ? 22:39:03 <Rubidium> that fails horribly when openttd is installed in %PROGRAM_FILES%/OpenTTD/ 22:39:07 <NLVF-Tealc> An other question. When I try to play online I see some chatmesseges but I dont know how to respond 22:39:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> why? 22:40:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> you know the location of openttd.cfg if you read it, from that point on it is not even platform specific 22:40:22 <Rubidium> openttd.cfg in your home directory and only using relative paths does not find the data in programfiles 22:40:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> not "only" 22:41:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> i see no reason to forbid absolute paths 22:41:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the files in data/ should be handled differently than newgrfs anyway 22:42:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FD41.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:47 *** NLVF-Tealc [~IRCFuture@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has quit [Quit: www.ircfuture.net] 22:45:07 <Rubidium> but the whole issue currently rather is the fact that the windows port thinks it's necessary to prepend the whole current working directory before the path 22:47:06 <HMage> yup 22:55:18 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-181-118.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Time for Sleeping] 22:57:38 *** mikk36 is now known as mikk36|zZz 22:59:34 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-209.84.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:20 <kaan> im going to bed, night all 23:08:25 *** kaan [jfk@82.192.152.195] has quit [] 23:17:29 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:25 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:33:22 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:34:56 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:37:09 *** RobertGrammig [rrmitf@h678631.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:16 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd []