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00:00:00 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: I think the I are very understandable, but is just my opinion :) 00:00:05 <Belugas> in my mind, only I is, but i hd to look in the first post to get the meaning :S 00:00:08 <Belugas> sorry to say that 00:00:17 <Rubidium> I really don't have the vaguest clue what those images mean 00:00:28 <Sleepie> I, for me too 00:00:42 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Has_Only_Got_One_Ball 00:01:07 <Sleepie> well x to y, easy imho 00:01:23 <Bjarni> Sacro: find some other channel to spread your Hitler propaganda in 00:01:28 <Rubidium> 1A: go directly (non-stop), 1B: stop at intermediate stations, 1C: go via 00:01:36 <Sacro> Bjarni: it's no propaganda 00:01:47 <Bjarni> it's not? 00:01:55 <Sacro> nope 00:01:58 <Bjarni> I would say that it's really biased against Hitler 00:02:10 <Sacro> only slightly 00:02:30 <Bjarni> awesome. There is a Japanese version of that wiki page 00:02:38 <Bjarni> hmm 00:02:50 <Sacro> ?????????????? 00:02:51 <Bjarni> how do you spell Hitler in Japanese... 00:02:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F2CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:03:13 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: About the choice of tram tracks, does it work with other tram tracks newgrf sets? 00:03:15 <Sacro> ??? i assume 00:03:35 <UndernotBuilder> a function I miss a bit in ottd is automatic pre-signals 00:03:55 <Bjarni> Sacro: word placement in Japanese is totally different from anything you know and word by word translation is impossible 00:04:30 <Bjarni> however the stuff you just pasted looks like kana and could very well tell that it's a word not of Japanese origin 00:05:21 <skidd13> Rubidium: understanable is from my point of view what most people understand. Therefore the poll. You have a voice too. ;) 00:05:39 <Bjarni> I like this word a lot: ? 00:05:43 <skidd13> s/understanable/understandable/ 00:05:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9927 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix: assert triggered when letting a tram run into the wrong side of a depot. 00:06:05 <Rubidium> only 20 minutes late... 00:06:24 <Rubidium> Digitalfox: depends on how many newgrf sets you want to load at the same time 00:07:10 <Rubidium> skidd13: the "problem" is that people already have read your first post and thus already know what the buttons means so they look at the nicest one 00:07:20 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: I like this tram track set http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=30593, if i add it to newgrf list, will it work? 00:07:35 <Rubidium> JUST TRY IT 00:07:37 <peter1138> JUST TRY IT 00:07:38 <peter1138> err 00:07:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F2CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:51 <peter1138> especially that set 00:07:57 <peter1138> because i coded some detection for it 00:08:02 <peter1138> that will format your harddrive 00:09:23 <Digitalfox> I can't compile a new build right now to test trams, so that's why i'm asking and not trying... Jesus relax people... :\ 00:09:27 *** Nigel [~nigel@202-154-145-104.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 00:09:58 <UndernotBuilder> TRAM????? 00:10:15 <skidd13> Rubidium: Personaly I prefer IX or IV cause it describes the action best. But thats only my opinion. 00:10:49 <UndernotBuilder> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9927 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix: assert triggered when letting a tram run into the wrong side of a depot. 00:10:56 <UndernotBuilder> :S 00:11:01 <Vikthor> Rubidium: I think I might have found a small glitch, with trolley pole, see http://bugs.openttd.org/task/803 00:11:26 <skidd13> UndernotBuilder: yes they run smoothly. :) 00:12:31 <UndernotBuilder> from what revision? 00:12:34 <Vikthor> UndernotBuilder: Dont you see (00:08:04) CIA-1: OpenTTD: rubidium * r9923 /trunk/ (18 files in 5 dirs): -Add: support for Action 0 Road vehicles, property 1C, bit 0. How comes you dont know this means trams ?:) 00:13:10 <UndernotBuilder> I didn't saw it 00:13:29 <UndernotBuilder> who developed it? 00:15:12 <Bjarni> http://www.like-a-lake.com/rail/download.html <--- oh... (censored)... which if those files are the right one :s 00:18:24 <Vikthor> Hmm 2:17 here. 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I can't place anything in the map.. ANYTHING.. If i try to build a depot, it doesn't appear on map, if i try to build road it also doesn't build, no airports etc... Anyone having the same problem? I made this build with the tool BuildOTTD, and it didn't give any error while compiling.. 01:28:47 <glx> no problem for me 01:29:51 <Digitalfox> Forget it... I had pause at start, and since i don't have cheats enabled, i miss the pause activated at the start of a new game.. 01:30:00 <Digitalfox> :( 01:30:15 <glx> lol 01:31:08 <Digitalfox> glx: I haven't use a recently nightly, so i'm not used to the start paused ( but i like it a lot ) ... ;) 01:31:35 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75905.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:31:59 <glx> I often forgot it (but I know it's here so I check that when I have a "building" problem) 01:33:34 *** G0D_aw is now known as |2rB 01:38:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75785.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:45 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl10-64-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:58:13 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host86-130-151-243.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-58-213.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:42:39 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:03:09 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:06:55 *** Sacro [ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08:07 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:45:20 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> charm.oftc.net quits: Hendikins 03:46:32 *** Netsplit over, joins: Hendikins 03:49:03 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:49:54 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:38:00 *** bencvt [~bencvt@va-71-53-204-176.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:41:18 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:41:42 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:53:38 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 04:57:51 *** setrodox [setrodox@83-65-232-177.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 05:23:40 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB70F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:34:03 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:46:15 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:24:43 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 06:42:16 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-48-147.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 07:00:01 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 07:00:20 *** peterbrett_ [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 07:00:44 *** peterbrett_ [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [] 07:00:59 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb70f1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:05:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-48-147.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:52 *** setrodox [setrodox@83-65-232-177.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 07:26:30 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:27:02 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB70F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:32:23 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:33:25 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:34:05 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb70f1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:48:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9928 /trunk/src/settings.cpp: -Fix (r9805): Default display options were not set correctly. 07:52:57 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:59:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9929 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#803]: fix several drawing issues. 07:59:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:26 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:16:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host184-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:16:19 <Wolf01> hello 08:19:17 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-33-171.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:21:56 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 08:27:09 <Wolf01> i'm sorry if i ask too much about the cfg, but i can't find enough usefull the wiki: what is the difference between restart_game_date and restart_game_year? 08:27:55 <peter1138> restart_game_date doesn't exist 08:28:09 <Wolf01> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Restart_game_date <- 08:28:19 <Rubidium> IIRC nothing, only the fact that restart_game_date exists before like r6000 and restart_game_year after r6000 08:28:33 <peter1138> ah, it was renamed 08:28:44 <Wolf01> ok, so it is obsolete 08:31:17 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:37:13 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:40:33 *** chammm [~chammm@ram94-1-81-57-198-120.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45:42 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:47:01 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48:12 <Wolf01> are trams compatible now? 08:50:02 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:54:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D017.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:58:05 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58:33 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5440.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:58:51 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:59:57 <skidd13> Rubidium: I reworked the iconset #I -> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=31074&start=35 09:00:35 <peter1138> again? 09:00:45 <peter1138> what do they represent 09:01:20 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 09:01:50 <peter1138> ? 09:02:03 <skidd13> The same, but I hope that Rubidium accepts them better. 09:02:07 <peter1138> same? 09:02:36 <skidd13> goto, delete, skip 09:03:33 <skidd13> peter1138: Aren't they clear enougth? 09:03:43 <peter1138> well, no, not really 09:03:46 <peter1138> personally i prefer the text buttons 09:04:36 <skidd13> IMO the GUI with the text buttons looks a bit messy. ;) 09:11:12 * Rubidium prefers messy over unclear 09:12:41 <skidd13> :( 09:12:52 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5440.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 09:14:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9930 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix (r9838): obiwan could cause vehicles to way a long time (2.5 years) at stations. 09:17:43 <peter1138> :D 09:17:52 <peter1138> that obiwan bloke gets blamed a lot... 09:19:18 <Ammler> is it possible to habe something like tiptext (text where appear, when you are over the button)? 09:19:32 <Ammler> lol, have 09:19:44 <hylje> right-click 09:21:30 <Ammler> omg, thats available, since when? 09:21:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> since TT original :p 09:22:00 <Ammler> aha, nice to know 09:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> actually, i believe it was in the demo, too :) 09:27:33 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:34:07 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB70F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:34:49 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:42:21 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:46:48 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387EF37.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:42 <peter1138> hmm, is the ringhoffer pha supposed to go only 15mph? :/ 09:48:55 <Vikthor> I think so 09:50:07 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:16 <peter1138> hmm, the sounds are screwy too 09:50:43 <peter1138> unless it's supposed to sound like that, heh 09:52:50 <Vikthor> The sounds are not finished, well whole sets is not finished 09:54:22 <peter1138> well 09:54:27 <peter1138> ok then :) 09:54:52 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:57:20 <Vikthor> The good news is, that ufoun, coder of the set has just one exam left and then whole holidays to work on it :) 09:59:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:00:03 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7A93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:08:48 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7A93.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 10:10:29 *** paolo [~paolo@adsl-135-64.37-151.net24.it] has joined #openttd 10:10:47 *** kaan [jfk@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 10:10:59 <kaan> goodmorning 10:12:50 <peter1138> cool 10:22:19 *** maddy [Marc-Andre@AMontpellier-256-1-120-53.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:22:34 <maddy> hiho 10:22:52 <maddy> Brianetta, what happend to the standardgameserver? 10:26:51 <Brianetta> maddy: Server was physically relocated 10:27:01 <maddy> ahh 10:27:14 <maddy> when can we expect to play again? 10:27:15 <TrueBrain> did it enjoy the relocation? 10:32:47 <Brianetta> maddy: When I can be arsed to set it up 10:33:13 <maddy> i see, can you reset celestars server? 10:33:34 <Brianetta> Isn't Celestar about? 10:35:29 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:35:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 10:36:52 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:11 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:01 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb79af.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:01 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9931 /trunk/src/ (elrail.cpp road_cmd.cpp tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp): -Fix: some glitches with catenary and bridges. 10:43:56 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:44:11 *** Desolator [~Desolator@82.77.166.167] has joined #openttd 10:49:09 *** Desolator [~Desolator@82.77.166.167] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC] 11:01:36 <kaan> I pay too much tax 11:01:49 <kaan> so they decided that i should have some of it back :D 11:03:10 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:29 <Thomas[NL]> same here :) 11:04:11 <Hendikins> mmm, apparently I'm a bad person for using exclusive rights to protect my income stream in a town I entered first :P 11:05:35 <Hendikins> So I didn't appreciate my revenue being pilfered on a "long as possible to maximise income" air service. 11:14:08 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:23:00 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26:00 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:27:44 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@81-233-244-56-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:31:15 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:17 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:37:02 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B845B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:11 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b81762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:40:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:48:37 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.167] has joined #openttd 11:49:29 <Wolf01> mmh i think the terrain generator places too many transmitters on the hills 11:52:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b81762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 11:53:23 <mikegrb> they should be in the ocean instead? 11:53:25 * mikegrb runs 11:53:40 <Wolf01> no, they should not be 20 in a 10x10 squares 11:53:43 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:48 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:02:59 <Desolator> I barely get transmitters :S 12:03:19 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.167] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC] 12:05:41 <TrueBrain> there is an ifcase: if (username == "Wolf01") PlantEvenMoreTransmitters(); 12:05:43 <TrueBrain> but don't tell him :) 12:08:07 <peter1138> transmitters are planted, eh? 12:08:34 <Noldo> sure 12:08:42 <valhalla1w> maybe a console command should be added 12:08:45 <valhalla1w> placetransmitters; 12:20:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9932 /trunk/src/ (signs.cpp station.cpp): -Fix: can't assume a zoom-level with MarkAllViewportsDirty, causing segfaults when trying to load savegames in dedicated server via -g (reported by peter1138) 12:22:27 <Thomas[NL]> hmm if you build a lorry bay you get the bus stop dialog 12:23:06 <Thomas[NL]> also catchment-area etc 12:24:57 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:25:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:25:32 <peter1138> eh? 12:29:48 <Thomas[NL]> peter1138, http://www.xs4all.nl/~burgtvaj/ see those 2 screenshots 12:32:36 <hylje> in before a screenshot of perpertual transmitter 12:34:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9933 /trunk/src/road_gui.cpp: -Fix (9925): unified a little too much. 12:35:00 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:08 *** geoffK [~geoff@host86-130-151-243.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:50:35 * Hendikins sets himself up a dedicated server to practice on 12:58:26 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:01:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9934 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r9923): towns could remove 'half' tram tracks. 13:01:45 <hylje> trams \o 13:02:43 <Hendikins> Actually, I agree. Trams? 13:03:33 <Wolf01> yeah, i tried them this morning 13:05:07 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:05:16 <Rubidium> it really takes time before people notice new features... 13:05:55 <hylje> well unless its a highly anticipated feature, people notice them when they become playable 13:06:28 <Hendikins> Can I get a two second summary on the feature? (Usage, etc) 13:07:21 <hylje> trains on roads 13:07:21 <Sionide> "you can build trams" 13:07:59 <Hendikins> hylje: So I can build railways on roads, and use standard railway rollingstock on them? 13:08:00 <Wolf01> get a tram set grf then like rail tool you can switch to tram tracks with the road tool 13:08:20 <TrueBrain> @openttd commit 9923 13:08:21 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by rubidium :: r9923 /trunk (18 files in 5 dirs) (2007-05-25 22:07:40 UTC) 13:08:22 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: -Add: support for Action 0 Road vehicles, property 1C, bit 0. 13:08:28 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I also think it is very weird it took that long :p 13:08:34 <hylje> link us with a tram grf 13:08:42 <Wolf01> grfcrawler 13:08:45 <Rubidium> grfcrawler.tt-forums.net 13:08:51 <Sionide> hmm 13:10:37 <Hendikins> So the back end is built in, but we have no grfs built in? 13:10:57 <Wolf01> we have tracks, but no trams 13:11:17 <Rubidium> Hendikins: newhouses didn't come with new houses either, nor did newstations come with new stations 13:14:55 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: yes, it's very strange people didn't notice it sooner ;) 13:15:17 <TrueBrain> people are so not intersted in those things :( 13:15:46 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 13:16:25 <Wolf01> i wonder if one day will be possible to have chains of tram carriages like trains 13:16:57 <hylje> that's silly 13:16:59 <Vikthor> I already noticed around 1:30 AM, an so did probably everybody, who was paying attention to his channel at that time 13:16:59 <Wolf01> i tried the serbian tram set and i like it, but not the blue big tram, wich is way to long when turning 13:17:07 <Rubidium> when somebody implements articulated road vehicles 13:18:33 <hylje> bi-articulated road vehicles! 13:18:48 <hylje> would we need roadstop lengths too? ;p 13:19:07 <Sionide> do the tram grfs have "ding ding" sounds in 'em? 13:19:40 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-227-182.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 13:20:09 <Wolf01> just one question, if 2 players want to build a tram network in the same city, how tracks are handled? i mean, can the trams use both players tracks? 13:20:46 <glx> that's something to try :) 13:22:41 <Wolf01> uhm, doesn't seem i can play with trams in multiplayer 13:22:43 <Sionide> should they be allowed to or not? 13:23:35 *** geoffK [~geoff@host86-130-151-243.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23:52 <Sionide> how's the subsiduries patch coming along? 13:24:13 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host86-130-151-243.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:24:58 <glx> ok they can drive on others tracks, but they are easily blocked by others' depots 13:26:41 <Wolf01> i found a little "bug" in title screen, paper trucks can't drive through the bridge, they exit the tunnel and turn around 13:27:09 <TrueBrain> paper trucks? :p 13:28:29 <Wolf01> those little road vechicles with 2 rolls of paper 13:29:10 <Wolf01> they are in the top left corner 13:30:05 <Wolf01> "are"... they sometimes come out there 13:31:52 * Zr40 pokes TrueBrain 13:34:51 <TrueBrain> @kick Zr40 13:34:51 *** Zr40 was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [TrueBrain] 13:34:51 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:34:57 <TrueBrain> I hate it when people poke me for now reason at all 13:35:06 <Zr40> I don't randomly poke people 13:35:22 * Wolf01 poke TrueBrain "not" not "now" 13:35:34 <Zr40> "no", you mean :) 13:35:51 <Zr40> anyway... 104? :) 13:35:54 <TrueBrain> if you correct someone Wolf01, do it correctly or not at all :) 13:36:03 <Wolf01> i'm not english, i can mistake, you not ;) 13:36:04 <TrueBrain> why poke me for it 13:36:14 <TrueBrain> i = I 13:36:21 <TrueBrain> i can mistake = I can make mistakes 13:36:28 <TrueBrain> that said, I am not English too, so your argument fails 13:36:52 <kaan> eigther, not too :P 13:37:03 <TrueBrain> eigther? :p 13:37:32 <TrueBrain> kaan: but I am glad someone noticed it :) (most Dutch people fail totally to see it is wrong) 13:38:06 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:38:22 <kaan> thats what you get for mixing danish with german, english and french ;) 13:38:28 <Zr40> what about incorrect apostrophe's? (typo intended) 13:38:56 <TrueBrain> Zr40: yeah 13:39:17 <Wolf01> anyway, why i can't use trams in multiplayer? 13:43:32 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:43:35 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 13:43:41 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:44:46 <Rubidium> because the server doesn't have the required GRFs 13:45:30 <Hendikins> Wolf01: If you're on a box that can compile, I've got a server up that can do trams on r9934 13:46:19 <Hendikins> Wolf01: Grab the trams from http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=19850 and jump on to autofox.ath.cx 13:46:45 <Wolf01> uhm, i started the server with the same cfg as the single player game 13:47:44 <Wolf01> i already have it, i can play on single player mode 13:50:10 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 13:51:48 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:24 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5E49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:52:47 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:52:54 * Hendikins can play trams on multi 13:53:21 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-64-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 13:55:17 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 13:56:07 <Wolf01> oops i forgot that newgrfs are saved with scenarios too 13:56:26 <Wolf01> that is a bad thing... savegames ok, but scenarios... 13:56:51 <Rubidium> scenarios are savegames... 13:57:39 <Maedhros> and if you didn't save the newgrfs you wouldn't be able to use newhouses, newindustries, or new-any-other-objects in the scenarios 13:58:52 <Wolf01> i need to make a copy of that scenario with the required grfs 14:06:51 <Hendikins> Well, I like trams :P 14:09:51 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 14:16:01 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:18:18 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5E49.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:24:33 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb79af.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 14:24:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9935 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix: could not build a drive through station when there when you own the tram bits and the town owns the road. 14:25:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:25:56 *** maddy_ [~maddy@84.4.34.128] has joined #openttd 14:27:28 *** bencvt [~bencvt@va-71-53-204-176.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #openttd 14:28:50 <Hendikins> Is it just me, or are trams more effective at getting pax than buses? 14:29:06 <TrueBrain> you ever been at a city with trams? 14:29:28 <Hendikins> Melbourne. 14:29:35 <XeryusTC> trams > busses 14:29:51 <TrueBrain> then you should know you can move many more people with trams over busses 14:30:14 <Hendikins> TrueBrain: I'm thinking getting cargo, not moving it. 14:30:37 <Sionide> do trams have to replace lorries though? 14:38:53 <XeryusTC> Sionide: that's the coder's fault :P 14:40:20 *** maddy_ [~maddy@84.4.34.128] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:38 * Hendikins builds a tram line from one end of the map to the other to test the revenue 14:41:47 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:47:46 <kaan> why isnt trams in trunk a news item? 14:49:29 <Hendikins> There isn't a nightly with it yet? 14:49:37 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:26 <Hendikins> hrm, 9 grand for 93 pax on an 80km/h tram from one end of a 256x256 map to the other 14:55:05 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:55:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:00:59 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:03:44 *** graeme [~graeme@88-104-20-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:14:54 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:18 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:18:21 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9936 /trunk/src/zoom.hpp: -Fix: (Un)ScaleByZoom missed a minus sign in some cases 15:27:45 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:27:46 *** ThomasNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:28:28 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 15:29:12 *** ThomasNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 15:30:52 *** Desolator [Desolator@86.126.53.92] has joined #openttd 15:32:57 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:35:44 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:04 *** setrodox [setrodox@83-65-232-177.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 15:38:57 *** PlayMeNow [Desolator@82.77.166.39] has joined #openttd 15:38:57 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 15:40:27 *** Desolator [Desolator@86.126.53.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:34 <PlayMeNow> Trams are in...trunk???? 15:43:41 *** PlayMeNow is now known as Desolator 15:44:23 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 15:45:25 <TrueBrain> no, but the code for it is 15:46:02 <hylje> :o 15:46:22 <Desolator> so how long 'till I can play with them? 15:47:35 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:47:43 <glx> compile yourself or use next nightly 15:47:56 <Vikthor> And get some tram set 15:48:34 <Desolator> :D 15:48:37 <Desolator> Godd job! 15:49:46 * Desolator powers up VC++, updates to latest revision and starts compiling 16:03:14 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:43 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14:04 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC] 16:14:15 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:15:37 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:16:41 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r9937 /trunk/src/gfx.h: -Codechange: don't define a function that is never declared or used 16:19:38 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 16:43:15 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-126-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:50 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:49:54 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-117-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:55 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:59:27 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:01:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r9938 /trunk/src/autoreplace_cmd.cpp: 17:01:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#799]: 100 wagons train + replace engine 17:01:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Replacing a unit in a train will now remove the old unit before adding the new one. This will solve issues when max train length has been reached 17:02:07 <hylje> so.. that feature was really used for once? 17:02:45 <Bjarni> well, I got a bug report where somebody learned that this didn't work 17:02:53 <Bjarni> he had two engines pulling 99 wagons o_O 17:03:20 <Bjarni> sounds American to me 17:04:06 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r9939 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix (r3139): EngineHasArticPart(v) is only valid for trains. 17:08:28 *** yeti_ [~yeti@p5493F1EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:33 <yeti_> hi :) 17:08:45 <Bjarni> yikes 17:08:49 * Bjarni runs away 17:09:00 <yeti_> what a lovely welcome 17:09:02 <yeti_> ;) 17:09:06 <Bjarni> we are being invaded by non-excisting monters 17:09:33 <yeti_> non-existing monster wonders how to use that tram bits stuff that the svn log talks about 17:09:46 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:47 <Bjarni> add a tram grf 17:10:02 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 17:10:05 <Bjarni> then they will show up on their own 17:10:50 <Bjarni> well, you need to use a revision where it's added, so either wait for the nightly build (an hour) or compile yourself 17:11:13 <yeti_> i am compiling myself already, didn't know i need a grf though :) 17:11:41 <yeti_> also, what it the difference between "better roads" and thos grid-options? 17:12:56 <Maedhros> as far as i remember, better roads just ensure there's at least one tile between roads, while grids do what they say on the tins 17:13:10 <yeti_> ah, okay :) 17:13:37 <yeti_> is it possible that some of the latest revisions changed the default pathfinder from yapf back to npf? 17:14:02 <Maedhros> it's possible, but i doubt it ;) 17:15:36 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:56 * Sacro|Laptop hrumphs 17:16:08 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-64-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 17:17:39 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:36 *** Twofish [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 17:23:13 <mikegrb> I thought you could build a new bigger airport directly over an old airport to replace it? 17:23:19 <Sacro|Laptop> nope 17:23:24 <mikegrb> oh :< 17:23:31 <mikegrb> so must blow it away 17:26:12 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6F9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:34 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:48 *** yeti_ [~yeti@p5493F1EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: 'Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?'] 17:27:07 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:30 <Maedhros> what 17:30:39 <Maedhros> beckham's back in the england squad? 17:32:16 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 17:38:37 *** maddy [Marc-Andre@AMontpellier-256-1-120-53.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 17:48:05 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:49:39 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50:17 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-175-58.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:53:36 <Bjarni> why do people believe that I'm Dutch??? 17:53:44 <Bjarni> REALISIERTER KURSGEWINN VON 400% IN 5 TAGEN! <-- this is my new spam o_O 17:53:58 *** juancuka [juancuca@200-55-120-154.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #openttd 17:54:08 <Bjarni> sent by some Dutch guy 17:54:57 <skidd13> Sounds mor like german. I get exactly this spam too. 17:55:31 <Bjarni> actually it's an odd mixture of languages 17:55:55 <juancuka> !password 17:56:04 <juancuka> lol, wrong chat 17:56:13 <Bjarni> juancuka: what are you trying to do? 17:56:20 <skidd13> no coop here ;) 17:56:28 <juancuka> :P 17:56:29 <Bjarni> get the root password to all OTTD servers? 17:56:37 <juancuka> something like that... sshh! 17:56:45 <juancuka> tought I was in the coop chat room lol 17:56:49 <Bjarni> I'm not going to tell you :p 18:02:21 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6F9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:08:18 *** alanin is now known as Alanin 18:10:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b81762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:10:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:14:39 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:15:31 *** juancuka [juancuca@200-55-120-154.dsl.prima.net.ar] has left #openttd [] 18:19:37 <Wolf01> bye 18:19:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host184-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 18:23:54 <Ailure> about 60 revisions to the 10k number 18:23:55 <Ailure> :p 18:24:09 <hylje> how very interesting 18:24:53 <Ailure> indeed 18:24:57 <Ailure> I can talk a half eternity about it 18:25:03 <hylje> show me 18:25:33 *** Sleepie_ [~Sleepie@p54B3543D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:35 *** Sleepie_ is now known as Sleepie 18:25:43 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Gamefreak@194.47.44.*] by Bjarni 18:25:50 <Bjarni> now I want to see you talk about it :p 18:26:03 <hylje> that wasn't really nice 18:26:13 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*Gamefreak@194.47.44.*] by Bjarni 18:26:13 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75905.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:26 <Bjarni> removing voice wasn't enough 18:26:54 <Ailure> :p 18:27:07 <Ailure> as long it's not a kickban, I don't take offence ;) 18:27:15 <Bjarni> great 18:27:20 <Bjarni> that means that I can do it again :D 18:27:37 <Ailure> hmm 18:27:42 <Ailure> the tram depot looks little funny 18:29:02 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 18:29:50 <Ailure> hmm, what is the best set with trams? :p 18:30:10 <Ailure> haha 18:30:57 <Ailure> that's kind of funny, but realistic 18:30:57 <Ailure> if there's no u-turn at the end of a tramline 18:31:00 <Ailure> the trams just get stuck 18:31:35 <Bjarni> wasn't that fixed yesterday? 18:31:39 <Bjarni> I guess not 18:31:45 <Ailure> heh 18:31:48 <Ailure> well 18:31:53 <Maedhros> was it ever considered broken? 18:32:02 <Ailure> the nightly was compiled for almost a half hour ago 18:32:03 <Bjarni> well 18:32:09 <Bjarni> I did consider it broken 18:32:09 <Ailure> so I guess not 18:33:30 <Bjarni> well, it is an issue that a vehicle is stuck 18:33:39 <Bjarni> in real life it would reverse 18:34:05 <Ailure> true 18:34:26 <Ailure> trams seems pretty much to be road vehicles 18:34:35 <Ailure> that can't turn around 18:34:57 <Ailure> and have to use some track that can be put over road too 18:35:37 <Ailure> been awhile since I saw trams here in Sweden :) 18:35:41 <Ailure> I only seen them in gothenbrug 18:36:02 <Bjarni> I have only seen them in one location in Denmark 18:36:04 <Ailure> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/G%C3%B6teborg_sp%C3%A5rvagn.jpg 18:36:20 <Bjarni> in a museum that built a line into a forest 18:36:20 <hylje> tramways should have a switch to change directions at dead ends 18:37:13 <Ailure> the tram depot 18:37:25 <Ailure> makes me think on a road depot taken over a mad scientist for some reason 18:38:19 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54B3543D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:28 <Bjarni> heh 18:41:19 <Ailure> hmm 18:41:24 <Ailure> since when was road free to clear 18:41:56 <Ailure> and tramways costs 1 pound to clear 18:49:50 <peter1138> ... 18:49:57 <peter1138> you're playing a different game to me 18:50:50 <Ailure> or a GRF that causes it to break 18:51:07 <Ailure> hmm 18:51:10 <Ailure> no that wasn't the case 18:52:17 <Ailure> even with default settings, roads are still free to clear 18:52:22 <Ailure> this is in the latest nightly 18:53:30 <peter1138> hmm, yeah 18:57:20 <Ailure> heh 18:58:03 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:58 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:01:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host178-238-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:07:07 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.39] has joined #openttd 19:07:23 <Desolator> I found as bug with trams 19:07:31 <Bjarni> only one? 19:07:49 <Desolator> you can clone any truck or bus in a tram depot, but it won't be able to get out even if I add a road going to it 19:07:59 <Desolator> I got about 3 buses stuck... 19:08:06 <peter1138> hehe 19:08:13 <peter1138> it doesn't check road type i guess 19:08:17 <Desolator> yep 19:08:27 <peter1138> you can sell them though, i suppose? 19:08:28 <Desolator> isn't there a way to delete them? like in TTDP 19:08:30 <Desolator> no 19:08:32 <peter1138> oh 19:08:35 <peter1138> o_O 19:08:45 <Desolator> they're not in the depots, they are under the gfx 19:08:51 <Desolator> O.o indeed 19:09:03 <peter1138> ah, they leave the depot but then go no further...? 19:09:08 <Desolator> yes 19:09:13 <Desolator> no matter what I try... 19:09:31 <Desolator> though trams can be cloned in normal rv depot, and will run if I add tracks to it 19:09:44 <Desolator> I didn 19:09:56 <Desolator> I didn't know that buses can't drive off-road... 19:09:59 <Desolator> :P 19:10:11 <Desolator> Do you want a savegame? 19:10:13 <peter1138> they'd get stuck in mud! 19:10:21 <Desolator> not if empty 19:10:22 <Wolf01> not in tropic 19:10:26 <peter1138> no 19:10:29 <Maedhros> quicksand? 19:10:30 <peter1138> sounds fairly fundamental ;p 19:10:40 <peter1138> i blame bjarni 19:10:44 <peter1138> he wrote all the clone code ;) 19:10:44 <Desolator> well peter can you at least some how delete them? 19:10:46 <glx> very easy to reproduce so no need for a savegame :) 19:10:56 <peter1138> Desolator: yeah, roll back to an older save 19:10:58 * Bjarni blames Rubidium 19:11:04 <Desolator> I don't have one... 19:11:10 <hylje> autosave 19:11:13 <Bjarni> he allowed building of all road vehicles 19:11:15 <peter1138> dum dum dah! 19:11:20 <Desolator> nope...all recent 19:11:31 <Bjarni> and just blocked building them with the GUI, not the command 19:11:39 <peter1138> the weather was crap today 19:11:39 <Desolator> I cloned them by mistake in the first year...and 11 passed 19:11:41 <peter1138> i blame bjarni 19:12:04 * Bjarni nominates Desolator as PTB 19:12:08 <Desolator> peter, can you delete them from the save? 19:12:13 <Desolator> PTB? 19:12:19 <Bjarni> Person To Blame 19:12:24 <Desolator> hey! 19:12:26 <Bjarni> it's really important to have one 19:12:30 <Maedhros> with much skill, cunning, and a hex editor, yes 19:12:36 <Desolator> damn... 19:12:41 <Bjarni> preferable without PTB knowing about the PTB status 19:12:41 <peter1138> or a debugger... 19:12:48 <Maedhros> or that :) 19:12:57 <Desolator> who wrote the save code? 19:13:13 <Bjarni> ludde... in a way to make it TTD compatible 19:13:23 <Desolator> then I know where to go :P 19:13:27 <glx> Desolator: why? It is very easy to understand 19:13:28 <Bjarni> yeah 19:13:31 <Bjarni> CS 19:13:46 <Desolator> I'm not the best at understanding HEX, you know... 19:13:57 <glx> you just need to uncompress it first 19:14:06 <Bjarni> yeah, that will help 19:14:09 <Bjarni> or save it uncompressed 19:14:15 <Desolator> how?! 19:14:21 <Bjarni> edit openttd.cfg 19:14:29 <Bjarni> set compression to "none" 19:14:34 <Desolator> ok... 19:14:42 <glx> then load and save 19:14:56 <Bjarni> you can't edit openttd.cfg while the game is running 19:15:08 <Bjarni> or rather, then the game will overwrite it without reading it 19:15:19 <glx> but he can save, edit, load and save 19:15:36 <Desolator> there's no compression setting in the cfg 19:15:41 <Bjarni> the game needs to load the new setting for compression 19:15:56 <Bjarni> savegame_format = 19:16:05 <Desolator> ... 19:16:07 <Desolator> weird names 19:16:12 <Bjarni> that is luddeish for compression method :p 19:16:13 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:18 <Desolator> lol 19:16:27 <Desolator> brb 19:17:04 <peter1138> might not be compression... 19:17:08 <peter1138> savegame_format = pgp? ;p 19:17:11 <hylje> uncompressed savegames are hueg 19:17:14 <peter1138> secure savegames, hehe 19:17:23 <Bjarni> hylje: yeah 19:17:28 <Desolator> on, now what? 19:17:38 <Bjarni> uncompressed savegames is a debug thing 19:18:02 <hylje> peter1138: rot13 19:18:05 <glx> Desolator: find the VEHS chunk and fix it 19:18:25 * Bjarni just had another idea 19:18:36 <Desolator> how do I fix it? 19:18:51 <Bjarni> hack the load savegame code to delete all road vehicles that aren't trams that are in tram tiles 19:19:09 <Desolator> good idea.... 19:19:11 <Bjarni> might be faster than searching though all the hex 19:19:33 <Desolator> so what do I need to find in the hex after VEHS? 19:20:46 <glx> Bjarni's idea is good (prevents savegame corruption if the hex editing is wrongly done) 19:20:55 * Bjarni decides to take a look at this bug to avoid other people from getting the same problem 19:21:06 <Desolator> make me learn c++! 19:21:10 <hylje> workaround code D: 19:21:12 *** kaan [jfk@82.192.152.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:22 <Desolator> then I can change the code 19:21:38 <Bjarni> you don't have to know C++ 19:21:41 <Bjarni> C will do 19:21:45 <Desolator> lol... 19:21:52 <Bjarni> I'm serious 19:21:53 <hylje> you can change random bits of the code and see if it'll compile 19:21:54 <Desolator> I know lua... 19:22:00 <Bjarni> close enough 19:22:02 <Bjarni> I hope 19:22:04 <Desolator> lol @ hylje 19:22:18 <Bjarni> :D 19:22:27 <Bjarni> then I say the hex editor would be faster 19:22:45 <Desolator> I be god dammed if I understand any of the hex 19:23:03 <Desolator> the dump is all dots and ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂs 19:23:19 <Bjarni> read it as hex, not ASCII 19:23:27 <Desolator> I did... 19:23:41 <Desolator> need a screenie of Notepad++? 19:23:56 <glx> VEHS is not the easier chunk 19:24:02 <Desolator> I have the addres, raw hex, and the hex dump 19:24:08 <Ailure> hmm 19:24:12 <Ailure> again 19:24:40 * Desolator blames ludde for coding a weird format 19:24:49 <glx> Desolator: how many vehicles in the savegame? 19:25:01 <Desolator> only rvs or all? 19:25:06 <glx> all 19:25:13 <Desolator> umm...*checks* 19:26:05 <Desolator> 35 19:26:07 <Desolator> brb 19:27:54 <Bjarni> heh, the same bug can make you build trams in normal road depots 19:28:09 <Bjarni> and I'm halfway though with a fix for it 19:30:15 <Desolator> back 19:30:27 <Desolator> the trams can exit normal road depots 19:31:01 <Desolator> or where were we with save editing? 19:33:10 <peter1138> ooh, a slope ug 19:33:11 <peter1138> +b 19:34:47 <Maedhros> Desolator: this *might* remove those trams for you: http://devs.openttd.org/~maedhros/remove_trams.diff 19:34:58 <Maedhros> but it's completely untested, so use at your own risk ;) 19:35:52 <Desolator> I'll take the risk 19:36:15 <Desolator> but they are buses.... 19:36:26 <Maedhros> ah 19:36:31 <hylje> then you have no trams but buses about 19:36:36 <Desolator> stuck in tram depots 19:37:06 <Maedhros> then put a ! in front of HASBIT(EngInfo... and change ROADTYPE_ROAD to ROADTYPE_TRAM :) 19:37:30 <Desolator> ok thanks 19:38:50 <Desolator> if (!HASBIT(EngInfo(v->engine_type)->misc_flags, EF_ROAD_TRAM) && is ok? 19:38:59 <Maedhros> yup 19:39:10 <Desolator> and !HASBIT(GetRoadTypes(v->tile), ROADTYPE_TRAM)) { ? 19:39:37 <Desolator> hmm, that must be left intact 19:40:52 <Desolator> ok, i'll see if it works 19:41:09 <Desolator> and give you a virtual beer if it does 19:44:24 <Bjarni> heh 19:44:28 <Bjarni> now I kind of fixed it 19:44:46 <Bjarni> now you can't build the wrong type in a depot anymore 19:44:53 <Bjarni> because now you can't build road vehicles :p 19:45:08 <glx> trams are road vehicles :) 19:45:34 <Desolator> they technically are road vechicles 19:45:36 <Bjarni> I know 19:45:43 <Desolator> but actually they're light rail vehs 19:45:44 <hylje> road vehicles 19:45:45 <hylje> ON RAILS 19:45:56 <Desolator> police rail bikes! 19:46:02 <glx> Desolator: internally they are road vehicles 19:46:06 <Desolator> I know 19:46:28 <Desolator> so you can put them on roads without having a tram crash a car 19:46:38 <Desolator> but we need crash checks for rvs, too 19:47:00 <Desolator> the normal rvs would break down, or if a tram hits a normal rv, it'd blow it 19:48:35 <Desolator> I love how open copies ttdp features but implements them in the best way 19:48:37 <Desolator> :D 19:48:57 <glx> like PBS ? 19:49:08 <Desolator> except that 19:49:28 <Desolator> btw someone should try to rewrite that for 0.6 19:49:44 <Desolator> as newindustries will take some time *points at Bjarni* 19:51:39 <peter1138> coo, another bug ;p 19:51:50 <peter1138> maybe i should put all these on bugs... 19:53:03 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: what use is opening cylinder cocks 19:56:32 <peter1138> you said cocks, hurr hurr 19:56:46 <Bjarni> now I fixed the bug 19:56:58 <Bjarni> but now it just silently fails... I better add some text 19:57:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:58:47 <Bjarni> <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: what use is opening cylinder cocks <-- it's done when starting a steam locomotive. It is to blow out the condensed steam (now water) because water is too heavy to blow out the normal exhaust pipe 19:59:33 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: ahh, right 19:59:48 <Bjarni> it's not an issue while driving because then the amount of water is so little that the steam can take the water with it, but when it has a while to collect a lot of water, then it will break the piston if the engine just drives without caring 20:00:22 <Bjarni> that and it looks great on a cold and/or foggy day :D 20:00:41 <peter1138> hehe 20:01:11 <Bjarni> I have a video of a steam locomotive starting on a foggy day. The whole engine disappears in steam and you can't see it 20:01:34 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm, my brake pipe is unhappy 20:01:43 <Sacro|Laptop> i left it at 18 Inches HG 20:01:46 <Sacro|Laptop> and its gone back up to 21 20:01:56 <Bjarni> and you can't hear me laughing. I tried not to laugh too loud in order to save the clip 20:02:22 <Bjarni> when the train returned, I was told that they were all laughing on the engine :) 20:02:54 <Bjarni> Sacro|Laptop: trying out virtual driving skills? 20:03:13 <Desolator> Maedhros: that patch did...nothing 20:03:15 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: indeed i am 20:03:16 <peter1138> he's ircing from a train 20:03:24 <Bjarni> o_O 20:03:33 <Bjarni> a steam locomotive with IRC access??? 20:03:36 <Maedhros> Desolator: oh. bugger 20:03:36 <Desolator> lol 20:03:39 <Sacro|Laptop> just passed Claypole Junction 20:03:47 <hylje> zomg steam trainz 20:03:57 <Sacro|Laptop> damn you, stop going over 60 20:04:14 <Bjarni> well, I don't have to simulate 20:04:22 <Bjarni> I will go to the real thing tomorrow 20:04:40 <Bjarni> which means: I will not be here 20:04:44 <peter1138> yay 20:04:49 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.100.208] has joined #openttd 20:04:53 <Sacro|Laptop> Water: 0 gallons 20:04:59 <Sacro|Laptop> Tender coal = 0% 20:05:02 <Sacro|Laptop> this cannot be good 20:05:10 <hylje> sensors? on my steam loco? 20:05:17 <Desolator> lol 20:05:18 <hylje> and broken ones at that 20:05:35 <Bjarni> Sacro|Laptop: then don't open the injectors. If you lack water in the tender, then open injectors will blow the water the wrong way 20:05:48 <Sacro|Laptop> isn't that how my driver gets set on fire? 20:05:58 <Sacro|Laptop> no... thats not closing the firebox in a tunnel 20:06:09 <Bjarni> no, that's when you turn the flow the wrong way though the boiler pipes 20:06:28 <Bjarni> ahh, let me guess: microsoft train sim? 20:06:58 <Sacro|Laptop> indeed it is 20:07:00 <Bjarni> I don't get that tunnel issue 20:07:16 <Bjarni> because we add coal while driving in tunnels without any problems 20:07:18 <Sacro|Laptop> it was another train sim that add that 20:07:21 <Sacro|Laptop> *had 20:07:46 <Bjarni> but maybe it's a British issue 20:08:05 <Bjarni> did I ever tell the story about a British tunnel and track replacement? 20:08:06 <Sacro|Laptop> its a british train, and a famous one at that 20:08:06 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B788B8.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:08:46 <UnderBuilder> will be helpful to resume the development of total graphics replacement set? 20:09:21 <Bjarni> I feel like I'm using a total graphics replacement set 20:09:33 <Bjarni> even though I know that's not the truth. It just feels like it 20:09:39 <Bjarni> the Japanese set is pretty complete 20:09:56 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: does it come with schoolgirls and tentacles? 20:10:14 <UnderBuilder> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Graphics_Replacement 20:10:15 <Bjarni> maybe 20:10:22 <Bjarni> I didn't get though all the sprites yet 20:11:04 <peter1138> UnderBuilder: sure, go ahead 20:11:08 <Sacro|Laptop> i'm bored of green signals 20:11:10 *** _Mist_ [mist@106.84-234-138.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:13 <Sacro|Laptop> i want a yellow or red 20:11:20 <peter1138> remember it's graphics replacement though, not game changes... 20:11:27 <Bjarni> I know 20:11:48 <UnderBuilder> but I mean if will not be better develop the 32bpp graphics 20:11:53 <Desolator> Sacro, from where did you get M$ Train Sim? 20:11:54 <peter1138> what? 20:12:21 <Bjarni> UnderBuilder: I think it would be best to develop the 32bpp engine 20:12:24 <Sacro|Laptop> Desolator: the world of the interwebz 20:12:36 <Desolator> coudn't find it.... 20:14:25 <hylje> and what's the status of multi track drifting? 20:14:31 <hylje> (disaster?) 20:15:26 <UnderBuilder> someone knows the progress of 32bpp branch? 20:15:50 <peter1138> scrapped 20:16:02 <peter1138> taken apart and reused 20:16:09 <peter1138> spares or repairs 20:18:51 <UnderBuilder> and will change the newgrf compatibility with 32bpp? 20:19:33 <peter1138> pardon? 20:21:32 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:44 <UnderBuilder> if when 32bpp gets into trunk, the TTDP newgrfs will be usable on OTTD 20:22:09 <Ailure> << 20:22:12 <Ailure> is that a question? 20:22:13 <Ailure> xD 20:22:13 <glx> UnderBuilder: 32bpp can display 8bpp gfx 20:22:22 <Ailure> indeed 20:22:27 <Ailure> on lots of screenshots 20:22:34 <Ailure> I tend to see a mix of 8 bit and 32 bit graphics 20:22:43 <UnderBuilder> but 8bpp gfx will look really ugly 20:22:46 <Ailure> well, screenshots from the 32bpp build 20:23:02 <Maedhros> ... they'll look exactly the same as they do now 20:23:07 <Ailure> yeah 20:23:14 <Ailure> nothing wrong with the old 8bpp graphics 20:23:20 <Ailure> though I could understand that it would clash 20:23:27 <Ailure> in terms of style 20:24:21 <Bjarni> heh 20:25:18 <Bjarni> this reminds me of a guy, who bought a voodoo card and then he showed up in school the next day and said that it was a myth that they made the games look better. He couldn't tell any difference 20:25:27 <Bjarni> it turned out that he only tried it with StarCraft 20:25:39 <Ailure> bahaha 20:25:46 <Ailure> starcraft can run on old pentiums fine D: 20:25:58 <UnderBuilder> When I get home, I will see if I download Blender and try to recreate the docks 20:26:09 <Ailure> I remember when it was all about voodoo 20:26:12 <Ailure> when it came to graphics cards 20:26:38 <peter1138> voodoos were good 20:27:09 <peter1138> how many other 3d accelerators worked in dos? 20:27:13 <peter1138> (and linux without X) 20:27:22 <Ailure> well 20:27:26 <Ailure> vodoo was released in a time 20:27:30 <Ailure> when DOS gaming was still existant 20:27:31 * Sacro|Laptop pulls back on the regulator 20:28:13 <Ailure> hell 20:28:16 <Ailure> Direct-X was made 20:28:21 <Ailure> so people would stop making games for DOS 20:28:24 <Bjarni> at one time Virtual PC didn't emulate graphics if it were voodoo 1. It just forwarded the signals to the hardware. This made it possible to use a 300 MHz PPC to emulate x86, install windows and run Carmageddon 20:28:28 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm 20:28:29 <Bjarni> that's some awesome emulation :D 20:28:32 <Ailure> according to some interview with one of the guys that started it 20:28:38 <Sacro|Laptop> with my head out the right side of the train... i can't see the signals 20:28:38 <UnderBuilder> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/thumb/d/d7/1x1tall.jpg/200px-1x1tall.jpg <--- does it look too cartoon-ish? 20:28:57 <Bjarni> but then again it would be cheaper and better to just use the mac version of Carmageddon, but it could emulate it 20:29:05 <Sacro|Laptop> UnderBuilder: it does with a pink roof 20:29:10 <UnderBuilder> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/thumb/5/57/StefSybo_-_001.PNG/200px-StefSybo_-_001.PNG <-- this too 20:29:24 <UnderBuilder> the grass also is cartoon-ish 20:30:08 <Ailure> Simcity 3000 style 20:30:21 <Ailure> Simcity 3000 is very cartoonish 20:30:23 <Ailure> :p 20:30:41 <Ailure> I prefer the style that Simcity 4 have D: 20:30:49 <peter1138> has! 20:31:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9940 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#805]: upgrading a bridge removed roadtypes. 20:31:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r9941 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt roadveh_cmd.cpp): -Fix: trams could be cloned to appear in normal road depots and vice versa (spotted by Desolator) 20:31:21 <Ailure> heh 20:31:27 <Ailure> Simcity 4 is my 2nd favorite simulator 20:31:29 <UnderBuilder> hey I have that game (sc3000) and I don't remember that those were too cartoonish 20:31:31 <Desolator> I got credited =D 20:31:32 <Bjarni> damn, Rubidium beat me to committing 20:31:32 <Ailure> openTTD being 1st 20:31:46 <Ailure> some people hate Simcity 4 as you have to keep track of lots of stuff 20:32:13 <UnderBuilder> TTDPatch isn't considered a simulator because it's only a patch XD 20:32:18 <Ailure> but i like it, especially with the traffic simulation being the most realistic in the series 20:32:36 <Ailure> wouldn't TTDPatch tecnially be a hack? 20:32:49 <UnderBuilder> (hopefully DaleStan isn't here :D) 20:32:54 <Ailure> or rather, collection of hacks as it works 20:32:55 <Sacro|Laptop> technically? 20:32:59 <Sacro|Laptop> it *IS* a hack 20:33:25 <Ailure> yeah 20:33:27 * Sacro|Laptop steams through retford 20:33:45 <Ailure> I done hacks myself xD 20:34:10 <Ailure> TTDpatch is intresting in the way that you can select what hacks you want and stuff 20:34:41 <Ailure> and it's possible to play the game exactly like the orginal too, which can be useful for the conserative player who wants to play under XP D: 20:37:18 <Sacro|Laptop> why not just play OpenTTD 0.1.3 20:37:51 <Bjarni> because 0.1.4 contains the first OSX port 20:38:07 <Ailure> :) 20:38:08 <Bjarni> so playing 0.1.3 isn't possible 20:38:11 <UnderBuilder> And other thing, what happened to DaleStan? He is not correcting anymore 20:38:16 <Ailure> I admit, I remember playing TTDPatch with very few patches 20:38:20 <Ailure> back then I used it I mean 20:38:23 <Ailure> before I switched to openTTD 20:38:51 <Maedhros> DaleStan's on holiday :p 20:38:59 <Sacro|Laptop> he returned 20:39:00 <UnderBuilder> woohoo :D 20:39:05 <UnderBuilder> oh noes 20:39:06 <Maedhros> did he? ah 20:39:11 <Sacro|Laptop> 5 days ago... 20:39:14 <Sacro|Laptop> but then left again 20:39:15 <Maedhros> heh 20:40:06 <Bjarni> you scared him away? 20:40:23 <Desolator> I g2g 20:40:25 <Desolator> cya guys 20:40:30 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC] 20:40:31 <UnderBuilder> bye 20:41:03 <Sacro|Laptop> hmm, how to stop this train 20:41:19 <mikegrb> what year does maglev and monorail come? 20:41:19 <Bjarni> put the reverse in reverse and apply steam 20:41:27 <Bjarni> *reverser 20:41:40 <Sacro|Laptop> argh, its downhill >< 20:41:43 <Bjarni> either that or apply the brakes 20:41:52 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: does shoving it in reverse work? 20:42:18 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:42:20 <Bjarni> actually applying steam in reverse is a good way of braking downhill. It will not heat up the brakes 20:42:35 <Bjarni> <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: does shoving it in reverse work? <-- it works in real life 20:42:46 <Sacro|Laptop> grrr... 20:42:53 <Sacro|Laptop> i leave the brakes on running 20:42:57 <Sacro|Laptop> and the pressure goes back to 21 20:43:14 <Bjarni> empty the brakepipe 20:43:23 <Bjarni> or would that be fill it since it vacuum? 20:43:30 <Sacro|Laptop> vacuum brakes 20:43:30 <Bjarni> and keep applying the brakes 20:43:31 <Sacro|Laptop> so fill it 20:43:54 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 20:44:07 <Sacro|Laptop> oooh 20:44:16 <Sacro|Laptop> kicking it into reverse does help slow it 20:44:18 <mikegrb> ah 1999 and 2022 20:45:34 <Bjarni> I remember one time I tried that Japanese line with all the stations. I ended up being late so I tried to catch up by accelerating max and then brake 100% when I should stop. After 2 stations I got the hang of it and could make it stop at the platforms that way. Then I had a long strait line to the next stations, so I ended up driving 100 km/h when I saw the platform (oops). I applied the brakes 100% and only passed it with 1,5 wago 20:45:34 <Bjarni> n lengths 20:45:46 <Sacro|Laptop> hmmmm.... i don't think i need to slow for a flashing yellow 20:45:49 <Bjarni> luckily I will never drive like that in real life :D 20:46:26 <Sacro|Laptop> which side to stick my head out 20:46:29 <Sacro|Laptop> right gives me a better view 20:46:33 <Bjarni> <Sacro|Laptop> hmmmm.... i don't think i need to slow for a flashing yellow <-- in Denmark flashing yellow mean "red light ahead" (usually placed 800 meters before the next signal) 20:46:33 <Sacro|Laptop> though i can't see the signals 20:46:51 <Bjarni> look at the signals 20:46:54 <Bjarni> only the signals 20:46:58 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: in UK signalling, flashing yellow means your about to be switched to a slower line 20:46:58 <Bjarni> don't care for anything else 20:47:23 <Sacro|Laptop> though it reckons 125 - 150 20:47:36 <Bjarni> we really should make a better standard of signals 20:47:56 <Bjarni> since there are no standard as it is now 20:48:25 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:48:27 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 20:49:02 <Bjarni> I thought green = go and red = stop, but I heard that China or some other red country decided that red is the way to go, so they drive passed red signals and the Japanese grf homepage mentions Japanese signals using blue instead of green 20:49:14 <Bjarni> however if you look at youtube, they do use green signals 20:49:14 <Sacro|Laptop> crap 20:49:20 <Sacro|Laptop> missed the platform 20:49:23 <Bjarni> :p 20:49:30 <Bjarni> you should have done as I did 20:49:34 <Bjarni> applied 100% 20:49:44 <Bjarni> and almost stop at the platform 20:49:44 <Sacro|Laptop> ah well... just don't leave the first carridge 20:49:57 <Bjarni> ahh, like that 20:50:22 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.100.208] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.0.3/20050414]] 20:51:05 <Bjarni> it takes ages when the train isn't at the platform. I wonder if it would be faster to quickly throw the reserver into reverse and go back to the platform instead of waiting the penalty for not stopping correctly 20:51:21 <Bjarni> specially with the modern trains that starts and stops damn fast 20:51:24 <Sacro|Laptop> i arrived 3 mins early 20:51:28 <Sacro|Laptop> its not a modern train 20:51:54 <Sacro|Laptop> its a A4 4-6-2 20:52:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9942 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#804]: crash when upgrading both ends of a bridge. 20:52:50 <Bjarni> I like that when I did that trick with driving 100 when spotting the platform, I was late at all previous stations. When I was done I was late at 4 out of 6 stations or something like that and overall I was like 90 sec early 20:52:57 <Bjarni> that was some fast driving in the end 20:53:15 <Sacro|Laptop> hehe 20:53:35 <Sacro|Laptop> i was about 5 mins ahead on a class 317 passenger service 20:53:39 <Bjarni> Japan is obsessed with getting everything on time 20:53:45 <Sacro|Laptop> but i accidently braked too late and slid through a red light 20:53:58 <Bjarni> :p 20:54:28 <Sacro|Laptop> ooh, should be cleared to leave in 10 seconds 20:54:31 <Bjarni> then you should quickly press (inset hotkey here) to get a permission to pass a red signal 20:54:36 <SpComb> tab 20:54:40 <Sacro|Laptop> now thats worrying 20:54:45 <Sacro|Laptop> i heard 2 buzzes 20:54:50 <Sacro|Laptop> WHAT THE HELL MADE THAT NOISE 20:55:01 <Bjarni> the bee trapped in your computer 20:55:09 <Sacro|Laptop> i'd have expected a whistle from the guard 20:55:30 <Bjarni> it's a MS product. What did you expect? :p 20:56:09 <Sacro|Laptop> yes, true 20:56:17 <Sacro|Laptop> but mallard wouldn't have had a buzzer >< 20:57:13 <Bjarni> I would be more worried if the Japanese said "all aboard" or some other English sentence... they can't speak English :p 20:57:28 <peter1138> hmmmm 20:57:29 <Bjarni> the same can be said about the Americans, but that's besides the point 20:57:37 <hylje> all hands on deck 20:57:49 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.100.208] has joined #openttd 20:58:21 <Bjarni> they are making train sim 2 (again!). 20:58:23 <Bjarni> " We know there are many avid users of the original Train Simulator and we want to hear your thoughts! Please use the feedback form below to tell us what you think." 20:58:29 <Bjarni> clicking it went to 404 20:59:06 <Bjarni> "we want to hear your thoughts", click feedback and get 404... that's sounds just right :p 20:59:44 <Bjarni> ohh, now I got some server down message 20:59:48 <Sacro|Laptop> the Kuju one will be better 20:59:59 <Bjarni> I guess their server is running windows 21:00:03 <Bjarni> Kuju? 21:00:37 <Sacro|Laptop> yeah, it was originally MS and Kuju doing train sims 21:00:52 <Sacro|Laptop> but MS ditched Kuju, so they went their own way, started from scratch 21:01:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9943 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#806]: building roads/trams did take notice of the foundation of the opposite roadtype. 21:01:09 <Bjarni> I wonder about trying BVE. I mean people write that it's ok and it's free so it's not like there is a lot to loose by trying it 21:01:19 <Sacro|Laptop> BVE is very good 21:01:39 <Sacro|Laptop> its just a shame its not GPL 21:01:52 <Bjarni> I even found a page telling how to install it in English :) 21:02:04 <Sacro|Laptop> yep, its not that hard 21:02:10 <Sacro|Laptop> the hardest part is finding it on the website 21:02:21 <Bjarni> <Sacro|Laptop> its just a shame its not GPL <-- then send a mail to Takashi and ask him to make it GPL :) 21:02:43 <Bjarni> this walkthrough also tells how to find it on the website 21:02:52 <Sacro|Laptop> yeah 21:02:59 <Sacro|Laptop> it just needs to be higher res 21:03:12 <Bjarni> version 4 has higher res 21:04:20 <Sacro|Laptop> does it? 21:04:47 <Sacro|Laptop> i don't think it has more than 640x480 21:05:37 <Bjarni> version 2 has a small screen. Version 4 has a bigger screen, but isn't backward compatible with some of the old files, so both are being developed 21:05:48 <Bjarni> I read that... somewhere 21:06:04 <Sacro|Laptop> i loved playing Mechanik 21:06:20 <Bjarni> Choose the version of BVE you would like. BVE2 is lower resolution but ideal as most routes will work on it, while BVE4 has more features (such as AWS, TPWS, customisable signals, higher resolution graphics, etc) but some older routes will not work on it. Some new routes have been written especially for BVE4 with enhanced features as mentioned above. You can choose to have BOTH versions on your computer. They will run perfectly side 21:06:21 <Bjarni> by side! 21:06:23 <Sacro|Laptop> though that was all in polish 21:06:37 <Sacro|Laptop> higher resolution graphics... 21:06:47 <Sacro|Laptop> != higher resolution output 21:07:04 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:17 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:07:19 *** graeme [~graeme@88-104-20-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:07:28 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.100.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:09:06 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:57 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/simulations/games_i_o/mechanik.html 21:11:32 <peter1138> wot wot 21:11:40 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-33-171.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:11:50 <peter1138> bet none of this stuff works on non-windows :-( 21:11:59 <Sacro|Laptop> peter1138: tally ho old boy 21:12:07 <peter1138> heh, you can't download there anyway 21:12:23 <Sacro|Laptop> can't you? 21:12:38 <peter1138> "We're sorry but because of increasing service maintaining costs we can't offer free downloads to everyone without limitations" 21:12:52 <Sacro|Laptop> oh :( 21:12:57 <Sacro|Laptop> its all in polish anyway 21:13:00 <peter1138> they have too much traffic 21:13:06 <Sacro|Laptop> it explains my knowledge of polish signalling... 21:13:09 <Sacro|Laptop> its a scary affair 21:13:12 <peter1138> so they want you to promote their site... and ,er , give them more traffic... 21:13:27 <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4YsR7cuTa8 <-- hehe. Somebody really got into making a good route/train. It actually has the speaker output from the real train 21:13:52 <Bjarni> video isn't that good, but the audio rules 21:14:00 <Sacro|Laptop> wow, thats an old version 21:14:05 <Sacro|Laptop> it has the passenger happiness bar 21:14:26 <peter1138> bit jerky... 21:14:45 <Sacro|Laptop> the whole game is :o 21:14:48 <Sacro|Laptop> :p even 21:18:28 *** Alanin is now known as alanin 21:20:01 <valhallasw> Bjarni: zOMG. BVE 21:20:47 <valhallasw> and 'vidio isn't that good' is kinda... an understatement :p 21:25:07 <Bjarni> :p 21:28:28 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.39] has joined #openttd 21:29:01 <Wolf01> 'night 21:29:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host178-238-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:35:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9944 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: -Fix: tile selection drawn on the wrong height for some road bridges. 21:36:50 <Bjarni> http://umikaze81.hp.infoseek.co.jp/bve/sn.jpg <-- I say the graphics has improved somewhat 21:37:38 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:38:54 <peter1138> have! 21:39:42 * Hendikins gives the QoS on his ADSL router two thumbs up after a 6 hour game 21:41:38 <Bjarni> Sacro|Laptop: high resolution graphics (1024x768) <-- not much by modern standards, but still better than 640x480 21:41:49 <Hendikins> I know that ottd isn't the most bandwidth intensive game known to man, but running dedicated on a congested link went well :) 21:42:38 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: thats higher than it used to be... 21:45:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9945 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix: bridges were not properly marked dirty when adding/removing roadtypes. 21:50:57 <Thomas[NL]> another little tram-rail bug: you can't build a tram-rail over a road if the road is build on a slope with just one high corner (build on slopes feature) 21:55:01 <Desolator> that's because you can't build a road that way...but instead of blowing the road, it should give you a warning 21:55:39 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.77.166.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC] 21:55:52 <peter1138> or you could read the commit messages and see these issues are fixed 21:58:27 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.110.55] has joined #openttd 22:02:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9946 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix: more places that weren't correctly marked dirty... 22:02:32 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:00 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:29 <Thomas[NL]> I mean this: http://www.xs4all.nl/~burgtvaj/tram_bug.png 22:06:51 <Thomas[NL]> r9964 22:06:58 <Thomas[NL]> r9946 :) 22:08:29 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.110.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:14 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54AFD901.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:32 <Bjarni> confirmed 22:09:36 <Bjarni> Rubidium: this one is for you 22:09:51 <Ailure> odd 22:09:57 <Ailure> seems like when opponents get bankrupted 22:10:06 <Ailure> my tram depots disappears 22:10:14 <Bjarni> lol 22:10:31 <Bjarni> do you have an autosave from just before it happened? 22:10:40 <Ailure> well 22:10:43 <Ailure> it happens repeatdly now xD 22:10:48 <Ailure> and i'm running a sill line on fast-forward 22:10:57 <Ailure> having lots of AI players active too 22:11:23 <Ailure> yep 22:11:27 <Ailure> depot changed color to red 22:11:30 <Ailure> and then disappeared 22:11:45 <Ailure> so it seems like it changes ownership for some reason 22:11:53 <Ailure> again xD 22:11:56 <Ailure> it turned brown and disappeared 22:12:18 <Bjarni> post a bug report 22:12:27 <Bjarni> Thomas[NL]: post a bug report 22:12:33 <Thomas[NL]> ok 22:13:03 <Ailure> Well, I do tha tshortly xD 22:13:33 <Ailure> that it disappeared isn't a bug though 22:13:39 <Ailure> more like a co-indience 22:13:46 <Ailure> however it changes ownership randomly << 22:14:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b81762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:50 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 22:15:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B826DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:15:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:18:46 <Thomas[NL]> bug report posted 22:19:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9947 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#807]: don't check whether roadbits may be built when they are already built for another type. 22:20:03 <Rubidium> bug report closed ;) 22:20:09 <Thomas[NL]> I noticed :P 22:20:26 <Ailure> Guess I go report mine xD 22:20:27 <Bjarni> err 22:22:34 <Thomas[NL]> another bug 22:22:35 <Thomas[NL]> http://www.xs4all.nl/~burgtvaj/slope_bug.png 22:22:41 <Thomas[NL]> non tram related :o 22:23:07 <Thomas[NL]> notice the / road 22:23:29 <Rubidium> is it in 0.5.1 too? 22:25:14 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.110.55] has joined #openttd 22:25:17 <Thomas[NL]> I have to download it first to check, can someone else check this? 22:25:34 <Rubidium> do you have some older nightly? 22:26:37 <Thomas[NL]> no 22:26:41 *** Twofish [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27:05 <Ailure> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/808 22:27:10 <Ailure> I better hadn't screwed up anything 22:31:31 <Thomas[NL]> can't replicate it in 0.5.2 RC-1 22:33:30 <Rubidium> Thomas[NL]: can you try to find out when the bug started to occur? 22:33:47 <Thomas[NL]> ok 22:33:48 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 22:35:18 <Thomas[NL]> latest revision 22:35:35 <Thomas[NL]> r9945 works ok 22:35:48 <Rubidium> grr... 22:35:58 <Rubidium> why doesn't it go as I want to? 22:35:58 <glx> hmm and with -- it builds | 22:36:08 <Rubidium> *work 22:36:49 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB79AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:19 <Rubidium> oh crap... I broke it horribly :( 22:41:21 <Thomas[NL]> wtf I hear fireworks or something over here :/ 22:42:48 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?260706 <-- awesome :D 22:43:50 <Bjarni> Thomas[NL]: is that somebody trying to blow up your doorlock so they can steal your computer? 22:44:26 <Thomas[NL]> probably a party somewhere near... 22:44:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9948 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r9947): building illegal roads on slopes. Why do 'fixes' always have the tendancy to backfire? 22:45:38 <Thomas[NL]> great work :) 22:45:52 <mikegrb> hmm, for some reason it won't let me have a rail corssing across a road? 22:46:24 <mikegrb> on a town own road 22:46:38 <mikegrb> 'can't build tracks here, must demolish road first' 22:47:15 <Bjarni> it worked for me a moment ago 22:47:41 <Rubidium> mikegrb: can you show a picture of the place you want ot place a rail crossing 22:47:45 <Thomas[NL]> works here to 22:47:45 <mikegrb> yes 22:47:58 <Bjarni> still works 22:48:38 <mikegrb> http://thegrebs.com/~michael/sshot/crossing.png 22:48:46 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 22:48:47 <|2rB> -NickServ- You can't ghost yourself! 22:48:48 <|2rB> haha 22:48:55 <mikegrb> I built the first one, then it wouldn't let me build the second 22:49:15 <Bjarni> you have a T junction road 22:49:17 <mikegrb> thought maybe it was because they were next to each other or something so tried another 22:49:19 <Rubidium> it's not a straight road, it's a junction 22:49:30 <mikegrb> oh I see 22:49:34 <mikegrb> on both of them 22:49:38 <mikegrb> apologies ;) 22:50:10 <Bjarni> false alarm :) 22:50:22 <mikegrb> woohoo \o/ 22:50:24 <mikegrb> crossing in 22:50:26 <mikegrb> thanks ;) 22:50:32 <Bjarni> but... why 3 tracks to a two track station? 22:50:50 <Thomas[NL]> another thing I noticed trams turn around on the road-reconstruction site 22:51:05 <Sacro|Laptop> Bjarni: a spare 22:51:25 <Bjarni> a spare track... with tunnel and everything... sounds expensive 22:52:03 <Sacro|Laptop> if one tunnel... is out of order 22:52:56 <mikegrb> Bjarni: heh, well I was trying to get two in ;) 22:53:04 <mikegrb> I have 80 million dollars ;) 22:53:27 <Bjarni> then you wouldn't notice if you donated something to the project :) 22:53:34 <Bjarni> but we would 22:54:09 <mikegrb> heh well lemme see if I can send 75 million from this ottd game to the project 22:54:48 <TrueBrain> it would be a nice gift in fact 22:55:37 <mikegrb> my wife told me the game looked dumb 22:55:40 * Bjarni wonders how to get the most out of such an amount of money 22:55:49 <mikegrb> I finally got her to play a game with me on the lan 22:56:08 <Bjarni> and now you can't get her to stop playing? 22:56:13 <mikegrb> for 5 days now... 22:56:13 <mikegrb> yes 22:56:22 <mikegrb> she burned two 20 dollar steaks the other day 22:56:35 <mikegrb> left them on the grill and forgot about them while I was busy with a work emergency 22:56:55 <mikegrb> she said having an irc channel for this game was dumb too.... 22:56:59 <mikegrb> she will be here soon 22:57:08 <mikegrb> she is already on this network anyway ;) 22:57:14 <Bjarni> heh 22:57:28 <mikegrb> we both work from home 22:57:35 <mikegrb> but she is self employed 22:57:43 <Bjarni> this channel is for yelling "bug" and then get flamed when it turns out that it was a user error 22:57:57 <Sacro|Laptop> BUG 22:58:00 <mikegrb> I don't feel bad, I have my crossing now ;) 22:58:11 <Bjarni> Sacro|Laptop: it's user stupidity 22:58:27 <mikegrb> is there a need for hosting for the project or some such? 22:58:41 <Bjarni> there is a need for skilled coders 22:58:59 <mikegrb> yes, but this is c, right? 22:59:06 <Bjarni> C/C++ 22:59:11 <Sacro|Laptop> = ++ ? 22:59:12 <mikegrb> I wrote one small c thing for work that is it ;) 22:59:24 <mikegrb> mostly perl and other scripting things for sys admin stuffs 22:59:29 <Bjarni> we converted to C++, but most of the code is still C 22:59:53 <Bjarni> Sacro|Laptop: actually it's 1/++, but I wouldn't expect you would know that 23:00:09 <Sacro|Laptop> crap 23:00:14 <Sacro|Laptop> i think i may have failed maths 23:00:31 <Bjarni> me too 23:00:41 <Bjarni> I mean I think you may have failed maths 23:00:53 <Bjarni> I passed math with top grades :D 23:01:44 <Sacro|Laptop> i got 87% in the first exam 23:02:16 <Bjarni> I got 100% on my first math test at uni 23:02:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387EF37.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:02:34 <Bjarni> I mean everything was perfect 23:03:05 <Bjarni> the same happened to analogue electronics 23:03:36 <Sacro|Laptop> yeah, i got 92% in that 23:04:50 <Bjarni> on a 0-100 scale? 23:05:00 <Bjarni> +% 23:05:49 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?655324 <-- nice one. Reminds me of the bug that only happened at certain minutes every hour 23:06:24 *** paolo [~paolo@adsl-135-64.37-151.net24.it] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 23:06:29 <TrueBrain> didn't we had a ban-policy on bash(-url) pastes? 23:07:03 <Bjarni> we didn't need it anymore, so we repealed it 23:07:06 <mikegrb> TrueBrain: the @ in front of Bjarni's nick means he can do whatever he wants 23:07:13 * mikegrb runs 23:07:15 <Bjarni> and that as well 23:07:32 <TrueBrain> mikegrb: nah, not really, as that +o is stolen from him rather quickly 23:07:40 <TrueBrain> @deop Bjarni 23:07:41 *** mode/#openttd [-o Bjarni] by DorpsGek 23:07:41 <Bjarni> NOO 23:07:42 <TrueBrain> I mean.... 23:07:47 <mikegrb> t/hee 23:07:51 <Bjarni> now I can't ban myself anymore :( 23:07:57 <TrueBrain> @op Bjarni 23:08:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by DorpsGek 23:08:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D017.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09:29 <Sacro|Laptop> @op Sacro 23:09:59 <Bjarni> @kick Sacro 23:09:59 <DorpsGek> Bjarni: Error: Sacro is not in #openttd. 23:10:05 <Bjarni> @kick Sacro|Laptop 23:10:14 <Bjarni> stupid bot 23:10:18 <TrueBrain> @kick Bjarni 23:10:18 *** Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [TrueBrain] 23:10:18 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 23:10:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 23:10:20 <TrueBrain> it does listen to me 23:10:25 <Bjarni> yeah 23:10:31 <Bjarni> that's what makes it stupid 23:10:37 <Bjarni> I mean 23:10:43 <Bjarni> it should listen to all op 23:10:46 <TrueBrain> but clearly 'kick' has a bug, first checking if user is in chan, than if the kicker has rights.... :s 23:10:53 <TrueBrain> lucky enough it doesn't 23:11:04 <TrueBrain> means if you get op in this channel for no good reason 23:11:07 <TrueBrain> you can do anything with ti :s 23:14:09 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387EF37.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:14:52 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:45 <UnderBuilder> OH NOES 23:17:55 <UnderBuilder> jasper will see the trams topic! 23:18:10 <Bjarni> so? 23:18:11 <UnderBuilder> we will go crazy! 23:18:29 <glx> he already reported an already fixed bug 23:18:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9949 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix: (road) depots got deowned on bankrupts. 23:19:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 23:21:10 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 23:22:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75A5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9950 /trunk/src/clear_cmd.cpp: -Feature(tte): allow terraforming under bridges. 23:24:14 <Sacro|Laptop> :o ZOMG 23:25:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 23:25:28 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:28:05 <Bjarni> night 23:28:06 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:30:33 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387EF37.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:33:22 <Sacro|Laptop> ZOMG 23:33:26 <Sacro|Laptop> JASPER HAS FOUND IRC 23:33:34 <TrueBrain> I suggest we all start to run 23:33:55 <Sacro|Laptop> irc://irc.quakenet.org/#tycoon :o 23:34:30 <Sacro|Laptop> TrueBrain: i'm sure he won't be the most annoyingperson in there 23:34:38 <TrueBrain> nah, you are there too 23:34:39 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B788B8.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:46 <Sacro|Laptop> :o 23:34:49 <Sacro|Laptop> so is lolman 23:35:07 <lolman> :o 23:35:17 <Sacro|Laptop> oh noes! 23:35:19 <TrueBrain> we should have a contest! 23:35:28 <Sacro|Laptop> oooh, what kind? 23:35:33 <lolman> Most annoying? :P 23:35:34 <TrueBrain> most annoying person ever 23:35:46 <Sacro|Laptop> wooyay ^_^ 23:35:47 <glx> the winner is jez 23:35:50 <Sacro|Laptop> nah 23:35:56 <Sacro|Laptop> nobody beats maley123/graphics_master 23:36:10 <TrueBrain> I already read 2 names where I would vote for 23:36:11 <TrueBrain> go on go on 23:36:16 <TrueBrain> (the names of course being Sacro|Laptop and lolman) 23:36:31 <lolman> TrueBrain, I can only be so annoying 23:37:04 <Eddi|zuHause> DiaboloD3 comes to mind :p 23:37:05 <glx> DiabloD3 is annoying too 23:37:13 <glx> Eddi|zuHause was faster 23:37:20 <Eddi|zuHause> there, he already has two votes :) 23:37:27 <Rubidium> http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/hmm.diff ;) 23:37:31 <Sacro|Laptop> most others in here are LURKERS 23:37:59 <glx> Rubidium: lol 23:39:01 <TrueBrain> I vote Diabolo, yes 23:39:02 <TrueBrain> no doubt :) 23:39:14 <TrueBrain> haha @ Rubidium :) 23:40:08 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4EE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:41:01 <skidd13> Trams track construction does not check right slope usage.! :( 23:41:16 <glx> even with latest trunk? 23:41:25 <skidd13> r9949 23:42:55 <Sacro|Laptop> <jasperthecat1> i want to go to OTTD room 23:42:57 <Sacro|Laptop> be afraid... 23:43:54 * Sacro|Laptop places 1 vote for skidd13 23:44:33 <Eddi|zuHause> he always finds those annoying bugs? :p 23:44:39 <XeryusTC> skidd13 has an Alucard avatar! 23:45:30 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever an alucard might be 23:45:36 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c210-49-162-211.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:46:14 <XeryusTC> Alucard 23:46:24 <XeryusTC> as in, Hellsing etc :P 23:46:41 <skidd13> alucard is an ananym of dracula 23:47:25 <glx> skidd13: can you show a screenshot? 23:47:27 <XeryusTC> Alucard = weird :P 23:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> ohh, that guy... 23:47:39 <skidd13> glx: one second 23:47:40 * XeryusTC makes everyone watch the anime :P 23:48:01 <UnderBuilder> why I can't name myself Jasperthecat1? 23:48:15 <XeryusTC> because you get pwnt then :P 23:48:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i watched a few minutes of the anime, and did not find it too interesting 23:49:18 <UnderBuilder> I want to call myself Jasperthecat1 :( 23:49:30 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 23:49:30 <UnderBuilder> !logs 23:49:42 <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause: you like horror? 23:51:04 <glx> skidd13: failed 23:51:29 <UnderBuilder> when joined the channel jasper? 23:51:44 <skidd13> damn, do I need to open a port on my firewall for irc-file-transfer? 23:51:45 *** UnderBuilder is now known as Jasperthecat1 23:51:52 <Jasperthecat1> now yes :D 23:52:07 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:52:11 <Jasperthecat1> I was trying with name XD 23:52:12 <glx> to send yes, to receive it's not needed 23:52:24 <skidd13> which one? 23:52:45 <glx> dunno 23:52:55 <Jasperthecat1> I want highways! 23:53:00 <Jasperthecat1> NOW! 23:53:02 <Jasperthecat1> :p 23:53:08 <XeryusTC> YOU CAN SUCK MY BALLS! 23:53:12 <glx> @kick Jasperthecat1 23:53:17 <XeryusTC> or implement them yourself 23:53:17 <Jasperthecat1> (I'm underbuilder :P) 23:53:19 <Rubidium> @kick Jasperthecat1 take the highway 23:53:20 *** Jasperthecat1 was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [take the highway] 23:53:30 <XeryusTC> :') 23:53:46 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@201.255.110.55] has joined #openttd 23:53:57 <UnderBuilder> sorry was me 23:54:04 <UnderBuilder> that was a joke :P 23:54:17 <glx> not funny 23:54:32 <UnderBuilder> LOLOLOLOLOL 23:55:08 <UnderBuilder> didn't you saw the "UnderBuilder has changed nick to jasperthecat1? 23:55:11 <Sacro|Laptop> haha 23:55:48 <UnderBuilder> !implement highways 23:55:48 <XeryusTC> no :P 23:55:49 <UnderBuilder> :P^ 23:56:06 <UnderBuilder> (I'm bored :P) 23:56:38 <Belugas> start coding... boredom will never hit you anymore 23:56:55 <glx> skidd13: failed again 23:57:21 <glx> evening Belugas :) 23:57:23 <skidd13> :( Damn tried port 6667 as oftc said . I'll try pm 23:58:34 <Belugas> :) 23:58:41 <Belugas> hello glx! 23:58:56 <Belugas> had a good day? 23:59:16 <glx> yes 23:59:21 <Belugas> spent mine doing gardening under the sergeant Wife's orders 23:59:23 <Belugas> good for you 23:59:23 <XeryusTC> gn 23:59:28 <Belugas> night XeryusTC 23:59:40 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.]