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00:02:14 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 00:52:33 *** Tekky4347 [~Tekky@p5493F7EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:55:39 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 01:03:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-140-19.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:43 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 01:19:57 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 01:23:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10816 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp airport.h newgrf.cpp newgrf_fsmports.h): [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Vertical movement now based on difference in heights between current position and target position, rather than just being in particular states. 01:25:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10817 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/newgrf_fsmports.h: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Committed one file too many. 01:26:33 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:28:34 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 01:30:55 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74C63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77E3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:47 <iratsu> !players 01:57:57 <Phazorx> wrong channel 01:58:14 <iratsu> yea, i noticed, thanks =P 01:58:20 <Phazorx> same result tho :) 01:58:25 <iratsu> hehe 02:17:43 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:57 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 02:32:36 *** Que [addicted@202.148.31.60] has joined #openttd 02:35:18 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:39:56 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 02:43:38 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:57:58 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 02:59:44 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:04:49 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 03:06:38 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:10:03 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:33:48 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 03:36:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CD08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:04 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 03:40:23 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:57 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:49:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F222.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:52:08 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:53:11 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 03:55:51 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 04:01:13 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:04:38 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:01 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 04:37:09 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 04:38:15 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:40:25 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:03:04 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 05:15:16 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: HMage] 05:15:35 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 05:16:33 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:17:11 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 05:18:09 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:18:20 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 05:23:08 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:42:55 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-255-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 05:44:25 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 05:47:05 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:50:38 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:52:21 *** Gekkko` [~Gekkko@CPE-124-183-12-152.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:53:20 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:08 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:29 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 06:07:14 *** Strid_ [gg@85.8.6.64.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 06:10:23 <hylje> hmm 06:10:50 <hylje> what statuses could one patch be in? unreviewed, rejected, untested.. 06:11:34 *** Strid [~Strid@85.8.6.64.se.wasadata.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:22:52 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:29:08 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:29:11 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:33:04 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 06:36:22 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:38:51 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:58:51 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CEBA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:59:48 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-255-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03:24 *** Que [addicted@202.148.31.60] has quit [] 07:08:14 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has joined #openttd 07:08:17 <dihedral> morning 07:10:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-140-19.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 07:25:35 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@84.4.233.239] has joined #openttd 07:35:36 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:07 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:46:40 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:46:48 <simon444> hi 07:46:53 <simon444> peter1138, I'm back 07:53:47 <peter1138> are you? and do i care? 07:55:18 <Gekkko`> LOL 07:55:26 <Gekkko`> high five peter1138 07:55:28 *** Gekkko` is now known as Gekko 07:56:00 <simon444> peter1138, you need to answer my question 08:02:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 08:06:52 <Rubidium> hylje: lots of them at the same time 08:07:05 <hylje> righto, ill tag them then 08:07:06 <Rubidium> one could've done a coding style review and an "idea" review, but not a proper code review 08:10:28 <hylje> hm the view code is now duplicated a lot, but ill fix that after getting the proto site up 08:11:10 <hylje> data and site structure done, part of logic code done 08:20:14 <alex__> peter1138, are you always angry? 08:20:44 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 08:21:20 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:22:23 <Rubidium> alex__: I think it's because of simon<whatever> who might still be annoying (don't know, because my client is ignoring it) 08:44:44 *** simon888 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:50:38 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 08:51:10 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:51:56 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:57:40 *** simon888 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:58:13 *** simon888 [~simon@124-168-1-47.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:00:15 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:06:21 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:16:11 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:18:11 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 09:22:40 *** simon888 [~simon@124-168-1-47.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:24:14 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:39:42 <Ammler> just realized, half of revisions are made in last year 09:41:18 <TrueBrain> mostly because of the: commit smaller patches, commit more often 09:43:14 <TrueBrain> hylje: as the draft defined, the patch never is in any status... it either have all the checklist items checked, or not 09:46:53 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 09:48:25 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@77.250.19.98] has joined #openttd 09:56:09 <Ammler> TrueBrain: is it possible to make a nightly without the client limit? 09:56:30 <Ammler> so we could test if it is really needed... 09:57:44 <Ammler> sometimes, if 2 clients at same time connect, we have 11 cleints without problems 09:58:59 <Ammler> for a "public" test, it is to difficult with patches 09:59:20 <Ammler> +o 10:01:27 <Rubidium> Ammler: remove lines 649-653 and 655-658 in network_server.cpp and try... 10:01:53 <Rubidium> the fact that 11 works is just dumb luck 10:04:59 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:11 <TrueBrain> cool way to create buffer overflows 10:08:22 <TrueBrain> anyway, changing MAX_CLIENTS is most likely much easier :p 10:10:11 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that does not remove the limit! 10:10:32 <TrueBrain> haha, okay, point :p 10:10:35 <Rubidium> it changes it, which isn't what Ammler asked for 10:10:44 <TrueBrain> your way just results in very funny glitches :) 10:11:06 <TrueBrain> but, you are right, it does 'remove' the limit :p 10:11:22 <Gekko> changing MAX_CLIENTS to it's highest possibly number removes the limit doesn't it? 10:11:29 <Gekko> what is it? 65535? 10:11:40 <Rubidium> Gekko: that's still a limit 10:11:51 <TrueBrain> lol, which means OpenTTD needs.. what.. 4 MiB of RAM more? :) 10:12:22 <Gekko> please no, not 4MiB of ram. 10:12:23 <Gekko> stop. 10:12:24 <Gekko> please. 10:12:51 <Gekko> Although it wouldn't use that RAM unless more people connect, no? 10:13:06 <Rubidium> it would even if you aren't a server! 10:13:19 <Gekko> whyy 10:13:23 <Gekko> wait 10:13:31 <Gekko> tthat can be taken two ways Rubidium 10:13:34 <Gekko> one way is what I mean't. 10:13:40 <Gekko> the other includes single player games 10:13:56 <Rubidium> it always takes RAM when your binary is compiled with network support 10:14:05 <Maedhros> argh 10:14:09 <Maedhros> meant has no apostrophe 10:14:09 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 10:14:11 <TrueBrain> darn, Rubidium was faster in typing :) 10:14:13 <Gekko> I can see 100 clients connecting to a 2048x2048 as awesome. 10:14:35 <Gekko> Maedhros: good point. 10:16:40 <Rubidium> which is the reason we do not "just" increase MAX_CLIENT 10:17:23 <Gekko> :S 10:17:32 <Gekko> can't it be set in a config file? 10:17:45 <TrueBrain> nope, compile time thingy 10:17:54 <Gekko> that's not very flexible coding then 10:18:00 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: it can, config.cache 10:18:15 <TrueBrain> also, all clients need to have the same value 10:18:25 <Gekko> why? 10:18:42 <Rubidium> cause they have a list of connected clients 10:18:57 <Gekko> alright gtg now 10:18:58 <Gekko> ttyl. 10:19:08 <Rubidium> read list as: static table 10:32:09 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:32:15 <simon888> fuck 10:33:06 <simon888> !seen peter1138 10:33:06 <_42_> simon888, if you can't see peter1138 here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 10:34:37 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:35:04 <Xintron> Hi 10:35:18 <Xintron> WOuld anyone be so kind and try to connect to my game, 91.95.28.15:3979 10:35:31 <Xintron> Need to see if my ports are forwared correctly 10:35:44 <Rubidium> Xintron: is the server shown on servers.openttd.org? 10:35:50 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:35:50 <Xintron> yes 10:35:53 <Xintron> It should be 10:35:58 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:36:04 <Rubidium> it should be != yes 10:36:34 <Xintron> Nopåe 10:36:36 <Xintron> It isn't 10:36:43 <simon444> what should be? 10:36:46 <Rubidium> servers.openttd.org will not show servers that it cannot reach, so it performs some "is the portforward setup correctly" checks. 10:37:08 <Xintron> But the ports are open in my router 10:37:22 <Rubidium> you're advertising the server (there's an "advertise" option in the start server window) 10:37:42 <Xintron> yes 10:37:59 <Rubidium> then your portforwarding is not setup correctly 10:38:22 <Xintron> UDP or TCP or both? 10:38:28 <Rubidium> @openttd port 10:38:28 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 10:38:45 <Xintron> ah 10:41:19 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:40 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:41 <Xintron> Does the serverlist update directly when I start my server? 10:41:59 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 10:42:18 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 10:43:56 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 10:47:04 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:47:19 <Phazorx> Xintron: only if advertise option is set 10:47:27 <simon888> fuck who keeps dropping my connection 10:47:44 <Rubidium> Xintron: it should update within 10-15 seconds IIRC 10:47:50 <hylje> TrueBrain: gotcha 10:48:24 <simon888> it seems to drop every time the neighbors walk threw their kitchen 10:48:52 <Xintron> haha 10:49:20 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:49:40 <Nickman> hiç all 10:53:05 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:34 <simon888> Xintron, not so funny 10:55:45 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:55 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:56:02 <simon888> must be something wrong with the cabling 10:56:53 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 10:57:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F222.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 10:57:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F222.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:54 <hylje> TrueBrain: could you elaborate on the checklist categories? 11:01:15 <Xintron> My server doesn't show up :/ 11:01:23 <Xintron> The ports are open 11:02:14 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 11:03:14 <Xintron> What should I set "connect_to_ip" to? 11:03:19 <Xintron> My ip:3979? 11:03:27 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 11:04:31 <Xintron> nvm, got it working now :) 11:05:03 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:05:12 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:05:30 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:16 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-140-19.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:50 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-140-19.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:09:41 <Ammler> Rubidium, TrueBrain: was eating, is it now possilbe to change the "hardcoded" limit for a nightly? 11:10:27 <Ammler> so we (#openttdcoop) can make "public" test 11:11:17 <Xintron> hrmm... when the server reaches the end year, what happens? 11:11:19 <Xintron> Restart? 11:11:48 <Ammler> Xintron: no, thats an other setting imo 11:12:02 <Xintron> ah, so it just stops? 11:12:19 <Ammler> end year is just this screen, with ranking 11:12:24 <Xintron> I have to restart myself, like "rcon <password> restart" 11:12:40 <Ammler> I guess, you can set a restart date 11:12:45 <Xintron> How? 11:12:56 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:13:15 <Ammler> restart_game_year 11:13:25 <Ammler> at section Network 11:13:46 <Xintron> ok :) 11:14:04 <Xintron> hrmm, how does that work? 11:14:09 <Xintron> It's set to 0 now 11:14:20 <Ammler> than is withouth restart 11:14:42 <Ammler> omg, my english... 11:15:42 <Xintron> But if end_date is 2051, what should I set restart_game_year to then? 11:16:17 <Ammler> 2052, so you have a year to discuss your ranking 11:16:18 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 11:16:23 <Xintron> Nice :) 11:16:40 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:16:43 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:16:53 *** simon888 [~simon@124-168-1-47.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:17:08 <Ammler> but I know noone, who cares about this screen 11:17:32 <Xintron> Well, 1 year could be fine :) 11:18:42 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 11:19:05 <RichK67> hi 11:19:36 <Xintron> Hi 11:22:35 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22:38 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:23:16 <Ammler> hmm, would it be enough, to just "patch" the server without client-limit? 11:23:39 <Ammler> or does client also care about this limit? 11:23:48 <Ammler> so it would be easy.... 11:26:40 *** simon888 [~simon@124-168-1-47.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:29:39 <Maedhros> the client needs to store the player information too, so everyone needs the limit to be raised 11:31:18 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:32:54 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:07 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:36:52 *** Gekko [~Gekkko@CPE-124-183-12-152.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.org - Now less gay.] 11:37:45 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:53 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:40:57 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:08 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:45 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:05 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:46:04 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-111-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:46:04 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-157-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:13 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 11:47:04 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-206-233.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 11:48:18 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:15 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:55 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:02 *** dfox_ [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:14 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:03:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:05:08 <simon444> ok it isn't just when the neighbors go into their kitchen 12:05:24 <simon444> it is also when they walk in the hall way sometimes 12:05:38 <simon444> worms must be biting the cabling 12:08:51 <hylje> rather shooting at it with bazookas 12:11:37 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:20:15 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 12:20:50 <simon444> THE NEW IMAC: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8845/imacqj8.jpg 12:23:54 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-12.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:25:17 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-12.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 12:31:01 *** Yeats [~chatzilla@ppp121-44-219-60.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 12:31:20 <Yeats> hello 12:31:41 <Yeats> anyone home? 12:32:28 <hylje> yes 12:32:31 <Yeats> cool 12:32:38 <Yeats> i had an idea 12:33:03 <Yeats> multiple monitor/window support in openttd 12:33:08 <simon444> no 12:33:20 <Yeats> so you could have all the graphs in one window and the map in the otheer one 12:33:23 <Yeats> no? 12:33:26 <Yeats> awww 12:33:29 <Maedhros> ignore him 12:33:43 <Yeats> anyone like the idea? 12:34:39 <Maedhros> well, i've only got one monitor, so i'm pretty indifferent ;) 12:34:43 <Noldo> :) 12:34:59 <Maedhros> i don't know how hard it would be to code for all the different platforms we support, either 12:35:04 <Yeats> hmmmmm 12:35:05 <Xintron> Dose OpenTTD work on ME? 12:35:14 <Yeats> anyone here a coder for openttd? 12:35:21 <simon444> Yeats, yes 12:35:34 <Maedhros> i am 12:35:34 <glx> Xintron: yes, but you must use the win9x version 12:35:39 <Yeats> do you think it could happen? 12:35:49 <simon444> Yeats, better for the os to provide such features 12:35:57 <Xintron> ok 12:36:06 <Yeats> excuse me? 12:36:13 <simon444> unneeded work for openttd that wont work so well 12:36:19 <Yeats> ok 12:36:24 <Yeats> it would be cool though 12:36:35 <simon444> for the os 12:36:41 <simon444> a mess for openttd 12:36:49 <Yeats> whats the os got to do with it? 12:37:01 <Yeats> a second window with graphs? 12:37:05 <simon444> Yeats, go to the linux mailing list and request them to throw x in the bin 12:37:07 <Yeats> and a normal window 12:37:11 <Yeats> ok 12:37:14 <simon444> Yeats, a lot. 12:37:14 <Xintron> Can I start a dedicated server with different openttd.cfg's? 12:37:22 *** Yeats [~chatzilla@ppp121-44-219-60.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 12:37:23 <Maedhros> simon444: and what exactly are you going to replace it with? 12:37:42 <glx> Xintron: yes openttd -c configfile.cfg 12:37:52 <simon444> Maedhros, see the ranting by the unix team 12:38:18 <Xintron> hrmm, so if I want two dedicated servers on the same computer i should run "openttd -D configfile.cfg"? 12:38:20 <simon444> Maedhros, I'm just trolling. Those heros have the real reasons. 12:38:35 <simon444> no 12:38:39 <glx> openttd -D -c configfile.cfg 12:38:43 <Xintron> ah :) 12:38:45 <Xintron> Thanks 12:38:46 <simon444> openttd -Dc config. 12:38:53 <simon444> ^^ 12:39:56 <Xintron> If I want to change the server name of a started dedicated server, how do I do that? 12:40:07 <Xintron> rcon <pass> server_name "new name"? 12:47:37 <Xintron> hrmm... some help please? 12:47:51 <Xintron> rcon <pass> "server_name = Test" 12:47:53 <Xintron> that works 12:48:03 <Xintron> but adding a space to the server name doesn't work 12:48:08 <Xintron> rcon <pass> "server_name = Test hey!" 12:48:15 <simon444> hummmmmm 12:48:33 <Xintron> How do I do to change the servername with space in the name? 12:49:04 <glx> not possible using rcon IIRC 12:49:11 <Xintron> bah :/ 12:57:44 <Progman> maybe some weird tricks with \" or ' 12:58:12 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:58:27 <Xintron> I'll try again 12:58:37 <Xintron> Tried one way but that didn't work 12:59:52 <Xintron> Thanks Progman. Worked now. Wonder why it didn't work when I tried :/ Must have missed the ending \" probably 13:03:43 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-140-19.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:43 <Ammller> where can I find a list with available town_name? 13:14:01 <Ammller> something for tropic 13:14:21 <Ammller> I thought spanish, but doesn't work 13:14:50 <glx> all townnames are available in all languages 13:15:13 <Ammller> town_name = spanish 13:15:18 <Ammller> whats wrong here? 13:15:34 <glx> no spanish generator :) 13:15:48 <glx> english|french|german|american|latin|silly|swedish|dutch|finnish|polish|slovakish|norwegian|hungarian|austrian|romanian|czech|swiss|danish|turkish|italian|catalan 13:16:32 <Ammller> so catalan? 13:16:38 *** EmiT [~Miranda@194-176-150-82.gw.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:16:40 <glx> <+glx> all townnames are available in all languages <-- I meant climate ;) 13:16:54 <glx> latin or catalan I think 13:17:13 <Ammller> where did you get this list? 13:17:20 <glx> settings.cpp 13:17:22 <Gekko[PDA]> catalan is low spanish? 13:17:26 <Gekko[PDA]> or frencfh? 13:17:27 *** EmiT [~Miranda@194-176-150-82.gw.cz] has joined #openttd 13:17:35 <glx> catalan is catalan 13:17:57 <simon444> colbert did it! 13:18:22 <Gekko[PDA]> glx: what's castillian then? 13:21:57 <glx> Castilian == Spanish 13:22:16 <Gekko[PDA]> Google? 13:22:23 <glx> wikipedia 13:22:27 <Gekko[PDA]> lol. 13:22:36 <Gekko[PDA]> look up Castalin 13:22:41 <Gekko[PDA]> catalin* 13:22:53 <Gekko[PDA]> exerpt where it's spoken in her 13:22:55 <Gekko[PDA]> e 13:24:50 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 13:25:41 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 13:31:39 * dihedral slaps Gekko[PDA] 13:31:44 <dihedral> just for the fun of it ^^ 13:31:49 <Gekko[PDA]> biiiiitch 13:32:05 <Gekko[PDA]> milkshakes at dawn! 13:32:09 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:43 *** eJoJ [~eJoJ-@117.84-48-125.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 13:54:51 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:55 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 14:05:58 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:16:53 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:18:18 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:33:58 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:53 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-255-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:00 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:59:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10818 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport_gui.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: remove the remnants of the old airports from the GUI. 14:59:59 <RichK67> muhahahahaha 15:01:04 <hylje> mwahahah!!11 ..? 15:01:08 <dihedral> ?? 15:01:55 <hylje> oh well, the patch review mockup is nearly usable 15:06:28 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:47 <TrueBrain> hylje: what do you want to know? 15:12:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10819 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (airport.cpp airport.h airport_movement.h): 15:12:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: remove a large amount of state machinery of the airports. 15:12:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: compilation on gcc. 15:12:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: AIs building "old" airports. 15:12:40 <hylje> mostly what the checklist categories are in practise. i'm thinking they are types of fix this? 15:18:03 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 15:20:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10820 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 15:20:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: make negative currencies red and restore the colour from before the 15:20:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: currency was printed; this removes the need to make two strings for printing 15:20:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: currencies (one for positive currencies and one for negative currencies). 15:20:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#998]: do not use green for currencies as it is practically unreadable on CRT monitors. 15:21:14 <Rubidium> crap... FS#1036 15:21:31 <Rubidium> not FS#998 15:21:45 <Rubidium> the person who can solve FS#998 can get a cookie from me ;) 15:23:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10821 /trunk/src/lang/ (40 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup: remove the strings that are not needed anymore since r10820. 15:23:36 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:24:24 <simon444> not enough patches 15:24:47 <simon444> in other news, apple is to start a conference very soon 15:24:50 <Noldo> KUDr: have you checked the regional pathfinder patch for ships, is it any good? 15:29:27 <KUDr_wrk> yes 15:29:55 <KUDr_wrk> seems much better than my 15:30:14 <KUDr_wrk> only it is not finished yet 15:30:25 <KUDr_wrk> (not ready for trunk) 15:32:22 <dihedral> Rubidium: you seem to have quite some discussion going on in FS#998 15:34:09 <Xintron> Can someone explain goods to me? Where can I get goods? 15:34:15 <TrueBrain> in a store 15:34:21 <Xintron> :)= 15:34:26 <Rubidium> at a second tier industry 15:34:40 <Xintron> tier? 15:34:42 <Rubidium> at *some* second tier industries 15:35:05 <glx> factory, refinery, sawmill 15:35:42 <Xintron> I built a trainstation near a factory but I can't pic up goods from there :/ 15:36:15 <glx> you need to deliver steel, grain and livestock to the factory 15:36:38 <Xintron> ok, that goes for the others as well (wook to sawmill etc)? 15:36:53 <glx> yes 15:37:12 <glx> if you click on an industry it tells you what it needs 15:37:50 <Xintron> So, when deliver to a factory, refinery or sawmill they'll return goods? 15:38:21 <glx> yes 15:38:27 <Xintron> ok, thanks 15:38:31 <Nickman> have you seen the latest post about the 32bpps ite TrueBrain? :) 15:38:55 <TrueBrain> which is exactly? 15:39:03 <Nickman> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=33496 15:39:06 <Nickman> tha last two posts? :) 15:39:15 <Nickman> they have some usefull info for the guidelines 15:39:54 <TrueBrain> yeah, some useful 15:39:57 <TrueBrain> that I know for the longest time 15:40:03 <TrueBrain> :p 15:41:14 <Nickman> yeah... 15:41:44 <Nickman> maybe you need to be more specific with your demands then? :D 15:43:09 <TrueBrain> some vague guidelines, some 'useful' information doesn't do it 15:43:36 <TrueBrain> I for sure miss things like: light direction, detail level, should images be created in normal zoom, zoom-in 2x, zoom-in 4x, etc etc etc etc etc 15:43:43 <Noldo> is the doxygen stuff available somewhere or should I make my own? 15:43:52 <TrueBrain> http://docs.openttd.org/ 15:44:13 <glx> as said in the topic :) 15:44:23 <Noldo> argh 15:44:23 <TrueBrain> and a good guess whould result in the same page too :) 15:46:14 <Noldo> next time I may be smarter but I'm not making any promises 15:50:29 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:51:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8088A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:35 <simon444> hi rav 15:51:47 <simon444> rav, are you a Jew? 15:52:08 <simon444> rav is a Jewish name. 15:52:15 <rav> no 15:52:22 <rav> rav is just my nickname 15:52:38 <simon444> oy. 15:52:49 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8083A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:52:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:55:20 <simon444> re: the punch to my chin 15:55:49 <simon444> my lower lip is a bit bruised 15:56:08 <TrueBrain> I love my ignore list :) 15:56:24 <simon444> and the bottom of my chin is slightly swollen 15:56:44 <simon444> but other than that I'm okay 15:57:35 <simon444> TrueBrain, I love people faking ignore lists hoping the other person gets the hint. Well get this. I got it. 15:58:54 <hylje> i love gullible people 15:59:29 <valhalla1w> remind me; why is openttd using it's own translation system instead of gettext? 15:59:40 <TrueBrain> because we love it so much :) 16:00:23 <valhalla1w> *grin* 16:00:23 <Maedhros> i'm not sure gettext has some of the features openttd uses anyway (e.g. plurals and genders) 16:00:37 <glx> or cases 16:00:44 <valhalla1w> it has the features by using two strings :) 16:00:58 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 16:01:10 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:01:14 <Maedhros> that doesn't help when your language has different rules for say 1, 11, 12, 13 and 14 ;) 16:01:23 <valhallasw> yeah 16:01:59 <peter1138> some of openttd's stuff is based on what gettext does, iirc 16:02:40 <simon444> gettext is rather lame... they didn't analyze how other languages work 16:03:06 <glx> gettext is nice for static strings 16:03:38 <simon444> gettext is nice for what it works for 16:05:38 <valhallasw> hm. 16:05:53 <simon444> http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/07/live-from-apples-summer-mac-product-press-conference/ 16:06:09 <simon444> whoops... meant for #moocows 16:07:13 <valhallasw> :D 16:12:30 <TrueBrain> hylje: how is it going? 16:13:53 <hylje> right now integrating user rating 16:14:10 <TrueBrain> show us what you got :p 16:14:35 <hylje> ill take a screenie, theres not much to be used yet 16:14:54 <hylje> apart from user registration, profile management, logins/outs... :p 16:15:03 <TrueBrain> which comes with Django, very good :p 16:15:13 <hylje> ive extended profiles. 16:15:33 <hylje> bloat such as profile images 16:16:20 <TrueBrain> but Django is nice, I should have found it earlier :) 16:16:32 <hylje> :) 16:17:05 <rav> I need some quick webspace for a day or two, with 1 mysql db, can anyone help me out? :$ 16:18:20 <rav> nevermind ^ that' 16:18:29 <hylje> TrueBrain: http://hylje.fi/files/ottd/patch-review.png 16:19:04 <hylje> all but rate functional atm, still getting patch submissions before live testing 16:19:42 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@84.4.233.239] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21:56 <TrueBrain> hylje: nice :) 16:23:24 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:26:05 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 16:27:44 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 16:32:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:32:21 <Wolf01> hello 16:33:08 <TrueBrain> hylje: btw, the checklist is rather simple: those 4 catagories needs 2 developers vote each; when adding a comment it can either be a global comment, or one specific for a checklist entry (maybe indicate the amount between () behind it) 16:33:08 <rav> hi 16:33:31 <hylje> ah 16:33:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:33:38 <TrueBrain> we might even consider negative voting 16:33:49 <hylje> lets see then 16:33:49 <TrueBrain> where developers can show they are against something for one of the 4 catagories 16:33:53 <TrueBrain> but about that I am not sure 16:33:54 <hylje> submissions work atm 16:34:02 <TrueBrain> anyway, the idea was: when clicking on the entry as developer, you mark it as okay 16:35:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 16:38:24 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:41:29 <RichK67> bbl 16:41:33 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 16:43:17 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6174.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:22 <skidd13> What does the grey square in front of a pm stand for? 16:44:46 <TrueBrain> that you will be assimulated 16:45:05 <Wolf01> -as O_O 16:46:15 <Maedhros> skidd13: that you've replied to the message 16:46:25 <Maedhros> there's a legend on the left ;) 16:47:03 <skidd13> TrueBrain: resistance is futile 16:47:22 <skidd13> Maedhros: Damn adblock plus is really to hard configured 16:47:47 <skidd13> Maedhros: Thanks 16:50:20 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:50:48 <hylje> now to configure the webserver! 16:51:09 <TrueBrain> hylje: how good do you know Django? (toying with it a bit, and the documentation is good, but it misses details from time to time :() 16:53:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:54:35 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-255-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:56 <hylje> TrueBrain: rather good 16:55:12 <hylje> no way the perfect but i know my way around 16:55:24 <TrueBrain> I want FileField to upload things based on an other field in the class, not on time or what ever 16:55:26 <TrueBrain> is that possible? 16:59:32 <hylje> i dont think its easy to pull off 17:00:11 <hylje> the bad thing about frameworks such as django is that sometimes doing things differently hits the framework limits 17:00:14 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:01:18 <TrueBrain> hmm, I seem to have found a way: define your own FileField :) :p 17:01:52 <hylje> should work 17:02:12 <hylje> at least django is amazing when it comes to functionality extensions 17:02:40 <TrueBrain> it suprised me how easy they made database modelling 17:02:43 <hylje> there is this reCAPTCHA plug for django 17:02:55 <hylje> i added it to my external libs and poof, it just works 17:03:07 <hylje> just like any newforms field 17:03:19 <TrueBrain> they spend a lot of time on making things plugable yes :p 17:07:07 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:07:16 * SpComb just hacks his way forwards using pylons 17:08:52 <Wezz6400> hmm that django thing looks very nice, maybe I'll enjoy webdevelopment again using that 17:08:59 <Wezz6400> I'll have to learn python first though lol 17:09:42 <TrueBrain> python is much more flexible then php :p 17:09:48 <TrueBrain> so you most likely will ike it 17:10:13 <Wezz6400> well as you may remember I dislike php 17:10:15 <TrueBrain> I wrote my own 'django' based on Prado for PHP.. what a bitch was that.... 17:10:23 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:55 <Wezz6400> something like that is worth a lot of money, or a lot of respect from the open source community 17:11:05 <TrueBrain> I just never thought about making parsers to read a models file and create the sql statements according to it :) 17:13:31 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest95 17:13:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:17:51 <simon444> NEW IMAC 17:18:13 <simon444> http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/townhall07/appletownhall0712.jpg 17:18:48 <Noldo> now the typo finding 17:19:25 *** Guest95 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:14 <hylje> finally 17:22:16 <hylje> http://opr.hylje.fi/ 17:22:58 <TrueBrain> it can't connect to api.recaptcha.net :( 17:23:09 <hylje> it cant? 17:23:12 <TrueBrain> I can't 17:23:29 <hylje> i do have a valid key for all of hylje.fi 17:23:46 <TrueBrain> DNS fails 17:23:50 <TrueBrain> no, it doesn't 17:23:53 <TrueBrain> connect fails 17:23:59 <TrueBrain> so it doesn't even try to send anything 17:24:09 <TrueBrain> recaptcha.net in fact totally fails :) 17:24:16 <hylje> ow 17:24:18 <hylje> :D 17:24:43 <hylje> arr, the deployment sweetness of differing environments and last-minute changes hits me 17:24:49 <hylje> registration is broken ;) 17:25:03 <hylje> apart from recaptcha, which appears to work for me 17:25:04 <Wezz6400> hmm, I can reach that url without any problems 17:25:15 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-75-51.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:25:26 <TrueBrain> it might be a very local problem 17:25:30 <TrueBrain> I don't care, it sucks :) 17:26:08 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6174.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:28:56 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:14 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:29 <hylje> now at least registering works 17:29:51 <Noldo> so. I can't forward declare enums? 17:30:32 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:50 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:21 <Noldo> It's going to make the diff quite a bit uglier if I need to move ExpensesType or CommandCost in openttd.h just to get the later declared when the second is defined :/ 17:34:19 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 17:34:26 <Rubidium> can't they both be in command.h? 17:35:20 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-75-51.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:37:01 <Noldo> let's see 17:37:43 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:39:14 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:32 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B077CCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:10 <hylje> opr stuff seems to work now 17:40:11 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 17:40:15 <hylje> ditto on recaptcha 17:44:01 <Rubidium> the captcha stuff does not seem to work (or it is horribly slow, > 30 seconds) 17:45:02 <hylje> as it seems i could just disable it, its not like its going to get bots right now 17:48:55 <hylje> its off now 17:49:35 <Noldo> Rubidium: no it didn't quite workout 17:54:14 <Noldo> now this set of dependencies is a bit too much for me 17:54:44 <Hendikins> mmm, 53 seconds to compile openttd. I like. 18:05:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 18:08:59 <simon444> new imac. new ilife. new apple. 18:09:51 <peter1138> immac 18:09:57 <peter1138> new smooth legs 18:09:58 <hylje> you are a c? 18:10:49 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! We miss you... 18:13:53 <simon444> Apple releases numbers 18:14:00 <simon444> lol 18:14:31 <simon444> microsoft office was recently delayed... and apple is slowly making a replacement 18:15:03 <simon444> http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/townhall07/appletownhall07117.jpg 18:15:09 <simon444> looks fucking great 18:15:32 <Hendikins> Nothing I can stand less than Mac zealots. 18:15:53 * Prof_Frink prefers the Dell news 18:15:55 <hylje> zealots are funny 18:16:25 <simon444> Hendikins, I am no zealot 18:16:44 <Hendikins> simon444: Didn't say you were. 18:16:53 <simon444> Hendikins, you are. You are up in the middle of the night. Let me guess for what. 18:17:11 <Hendikins> Moderating Whirlpool. 18:17:43 <Hendikins> (That, and attempting to maximise the benefit of using icecream for distributed building jobs, primarily Mozilla) 18:17:49 <hylje> :o 18:20:05 <simon444> yeah right... your either watching the sony conference or the apple conference 18:20:11 <Hendikins> One could also factor in the fact I'm virtually always awake at these hours, as anyone in the "extreme late night thread" in Whirlpool's off-topic section would know. 18:20:14 <simon444> funny how they both have them at the same time 18:22:32 <Hendikins> We do have a few on Whirlpool watching the Mac stuff though. 18:22:33 <simon444> Jason Chen: Q: How is the Mac Mini doing? And are you updating it? A: We are refreshing the Mac Mini and making it even faster. It's already in the online store. 18:23:05 * Hendikins is having an occasional glance at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=793135 18:23:08 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:23:57 <Tlustoch> Hello. 18:25:11 <eekee> hihi 18:25:54 <hylje> hii 18:32:01 * Hendikins does his daily new user witch hunt on WP 18:32:50 <Xintron> How do I load an autosaved game on my dedicated server? rcon <pass> "load <numberofthesavefile>"? 18:34:40 <Noldo> what is the way to add -g to the compile commandlines? 18:41:57 <Phazorx> what isn linux path for common sustem wide GRFs repository? 18:42:06 <Phazorx> /usr/local/shared/openttd ? 18:42:09 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:43:18 <Noldo> /usr/share/games/openttd/data/ ? 18:43:43 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:44:17 <Noldo> hi Wolf01 18:44:22 <Wolf01> hi 18:45:01 <simon444> Apple store is dead 18:45:12 <simon444> they put it back up for a few minutes 18:45:19 <simon444> now it is totally dead 18:45:31 <Noldo> simon444: would you belive that the rest of us don't really care 18:46:02 <simon444> err fuck wrong channel 18:46:23 <Prof_Frink> simon444: "On the morning of Steve Jobs's keynote presentation, the online Apple store grinds to a halt as Mac-heads set their browsers to refresh every 15 seconds." 18:46:30 <Prof_Frink> http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/ 18:48:50 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 18:52:30 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:53:38 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 18:53:41 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:53:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:54:16 <Noldo> Now I need to find the place where the player is given the initial money it has 18:55:40 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:03 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:48 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:58 <Tlustoch> Can someone tell me if AIRoad::BuildRoad works? I use it and sometimes when there's slope it goes at same level instead of building down. 19:08:15 <Noldo> I need my -g to continue 19:08:26 <Noldo> maybe tomorrow 19:09:16 <ln-> a Bjarni has arrived 19:09:26 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:02 <ln-> Bjarni: do you know Assembly (the annual demoscene party)? 19:10:11 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:34:15 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 19:45:47 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 19:54:02 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5FDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:58 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-84-186.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:12:28 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:18:16 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 20:18:25 <RichK67> hi 20:24:48 <Wolf01> hi 20:27:46 <Bjarni> ln-: no 20:29:21 <ln-> Bjarni: ok, do you know the concept of demos and intros and maybe fitting those in 64 or 4 kilobytes? 20:31:14 <hylje> yay, explaining demoscene to nubs 20:31:24 <ln-> Bjarni: anyway, http://mac.scene.org/?q=node/134 20:37:08 <skidd13> hi RichK67: nice work 20:38:36 <Bjarni> ln-: I'm don't get the idea 20:39:00 <simon444> does openttd run on the new imacs? 20:39:03 <Bjarni> I never got the idea of writing some small ASM code or some other short unreadable source code 20:39:11 <Bjarni> simon444: it should 20:39:17 <Bjarni> I don't see any reason why it would fail 20:39:20 <simon444> I'm going to get the entry model 20:39:29 <Bjarni> besides user input errors :p 20:39:50 <Prof_Frink> simon444: Nah, you want an Inspiron 6400n 20:40:26 <RichK67> hi skidd13: yeah, im adding a placement mask at the moment to give fine control 20:40:46 <simon444> Bjarni, the beauty of the new iMac might do strange things 20:41:00 <simon444> it is very thin 20:41:13 <TrueBrain> maybe OpenTTD walks out of it! 20:41:24 <ln-> Bjarni: isn't it interesting that e.g. this one fits in 64 kB: ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2005/assembly05/in64/flt_cheguevara-videocap_by_maali-divx511.avi 20:41:32 <Bjarni> no, I really can't see any hardware limitations in OpenTTD. It just needs a G3 or newer (universal) and OSX 10.3 or newer 20:41:33 <simon444> Prof_Frink, lol why? 20:41:49 <Bjarni> didn't test with 10.5 yet though (for really good reasons) 20:41:56 <simon444> it has a new keyboard! 20:41:59 <Prof_Frink> n-series. ubuntuubuntuubuntuubuntuubuntuubuntuubuntuubuntuubuntu. 20:42:14 <Bjarni> simon444: trust me: it doesn't matter what keyboard you use 20:42:19 <Bjarni> the same goes for the mouse 20:42:20 <simon444> lol 20:42:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10822 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: OSX makes --endian set to PREPROCESSOR, which wasn't an allowed value, making reconfigures to fail (special commit for Bjarni, now he should fix things too :p) 20:42:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:47 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Using a keyboard that has a different layout to what you have configured may cause problems 20:42:56 <simon444> Bjarni, but the fn key... is in different places on the wired and wireless 20:43:31 <Prof_Frink> But nothing a little creative xmodmapping can't fix 20:43:38 <Hendikins> mmm, 43 seconds to build openttd :) 20:45:57 <simon444> http://www.engadget.com/gallery/apples-new-imac-and-keyboard-first-hands-on/343548/ 20:45:58 <simon444> WOW 20:46:22 <simon444> a cable hole 20:46:26 <simon444> how neat 20:46:45 <simon444> I should get something to neaten my cables 20:47:26 <Bjarni> simon444: now you remind me of the guy, who wanted to run windows software on mac and he presumed that it would be easy because "the keyboards look similar" 20:47:39 <simon444> lol 20:47:46 <simon444> I am just acting dumb 20:47:59 <simon444> its funny the responses you make 20:47:59 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: I'm going to wait for the iModelM before getting a Mac 20:48:02 * Hendikins bites tongue 20:48:20 <Prof_Frink> A proper keyboard! 20:49:08 <Bjarni> I don't think you can use his bitten off tongue as a keyboard :/ 20:49:15 <skidd13> RichK67: got my forum-pm? 20:51:25 <simon444> LOL 20:51:39 <simon444> Hendikins, don't tell me that is because of me 20:51:57 <Bjarni> he can't 20:51:57 <Hendikins> simon444: Couldn't possibly be. 20:52:07 <Bjarni> he bit his tongue off. He can't talk anymore :p 20:52:16 <Bjarni> hence can't tell anything XD 20:52:34 <Hendikins> I said I bit it, not that I bit it off. 20:52:36 <simon444> lol 20:52:47 <Bjarni> damn 20:52:55 <Bjarni> then I have to finish the job 20:53:14 <Bjarni> you can't even screw up right 20:54:10 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:54:11 <simon444> rip it out! 20:54:29 <Hendikins> Actually, I was preventing a screwup :P 20:54:48 <simon444> rav, hi. Bjarni is in the middle of ripping out Hendikins' tongue 20:55:14 <Bjarni> I am? 20:55:15 <Hendikins> Bjarni: By biting my tongue, I stop myself from saying something evil/mean/wicked/nasty 20:55:15 <rav> is that a good thing? 20:55:33 <rav> good point, GO BJARNI :) 20:56:17 <simon444> <Hendikins> I said I bit it, not that I bit it off. 20:56:21 * Bjarni takes notes: Hendikins bites his tongue when his computer shows adds for porn sites, so he will stop thinking about clicking them 20:56:22 <simon444> <Bjarni> then I have to finish the job 20:56:26 <RichK67> skidd13: just got it... yes, im adding slope reaction atm, the previous attempt just automatically added foundations. i may have to find a way to disable that 20:56:26 <simon444> yes you are 20:56:34 <Hendikins> Bjarni: I don't see ads :) 20:56:38 * Hendikins pats squidGuard 20:56:47 <Bjarni> then spam mail 20:56:55 <Hendikins> I don't see spam 20:57:00 * Hendikins pats bayesian filter 20:57:04 <RichK67> (just create it) ;) 20:57:14 <simon444> local ads 20:57:21 <rav> I can forward some if you want Hendikins :) 20:57:28 <rav> I get plenty of spam, unfortunatly 20:57:40 *** dihedral_ [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-253-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:57:42 <Hendikins> rav: I get a whole bunch, but the filter takes care of it very nicely. 20:57:46 <Bjarni> I once got a spam mail that I laughed at for a long while. It was radiation protection pills 20:57:52 <dihedral_> hi 20:58:00 <rav> I got two in my spam box now 20:58:01 * Rubidium saw spam when watching the latest Top Gear special edition ;) 20:58:21 <Bjarni> just take then daily and you are less likely to get ill if a nearly nuclear power plant blows up 20:58:22 * dihedral_ wishes he could watch top gear ^^ 20:58:22 <simon444> dihedral, hello welcome to the spam channel 20:58:31 <Prof_Frink> dihedral_: You can. 20:58:33 <rav> "Be the most confident man in town" and "did it happen?" 20:58:45 <Prof_Frink> That is what thepiratebay's for. 20:59:04 * rav slaps frink 20:59:05 <Bjarni> I thought thepiratebay was to promote a political party 20:59:12 <rav> torrentz.com is better :P 20:59:16 <Bjarni> the pirate party 20:59:17 <dihedral_> Prof_Frink: i dont do prated stuff 20:59:23 <rav> I use it for linux downloads only (yea right :P ) 20:59:32 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:59:38 <simon444> I love this channel 20:59:39 *** dihedral_ is now known as dihedral 20:59:51 <dihedral> ^^ 21:00:53 <Bjarni> I think it's funny how RIAA wanted to shut down the pirate bay and it ended up as a political scandal and a new party was formed in Sweden.... the law protected the server 21:01:06 <Bjarni> RIAA don't get why though, but that's their problem 21:01:32 <simon444> their pirates 21:01:42 <RichK67> Bjarni: err.... so you dont realise that taking iodine tablets helps prevent the takeup of radioactive iodine?? 21:01:52 <RichK67> its serious, and proven 21:02:42 <Bjarni> RichK67: I know you can do stuff like that, but honestly.... bought from a spam mail 21:03:05 <RichK67> yeah, true.... just another blue pill ;) 21:03:18 <Bjarni> also the risk of a nuclear accident is rather low considering I'm living in a nuclear free zone 21:03:20 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: The ones from the spam stop you getting radiation poisoning by killing you first 21:03:24 *** G [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has joined #openttd 21:03:40 <Bjarni> the nearest plant isn't a decent distance away 21:05:01 <Bjarni> I know I eat some radiation protecting stuff, but that's mainly because it also protects against malnutrition and some other not so nice disease ;) 21:06:41 <rav> bjarni: the nearest plant could be thousands and thousands kilometers away 21:06:47 <rav> it doesn't really matter 21:06:58 <dihedral> anything getting close to an rc3? 21:07:13 <rav> the radioactive debris from chernobyl reached the US and Japan 21:07:22 <Bjarni> it depends on how severe the accident is 21:07:41 <Bjarni> I have a feeling that the thing at Kashiwazaka is pretty local 21:08:02 <rav> yea, I think so too 21:08:09 <rav> I hope so :p 21:08:12 <Bjarni> :p 21:08:27 <rav> Im way too close to france to be safe 21:08:51 <Bjarni> actually I don't think it's severe, but it *could* have turned into something nasty, so it's taken really serious 21:08:58 <rav> although we dutchies also have 2 nuclear plants, one research reactor in Putten and one in the technical university of Delft 21:09:21 <Bjarni> one at a university.... sounds unsafe 21:09:31 <Bjarni> I mean... students..... 21:09:33 <rav> you've never visited the university have you? :p 21:09:44 <Bjarni> not that particular one 21:09:53 <Bjarni> I have never been in NL 21:09:54 <rav> the reactor is pretty well protected 21:10:18 <rav> but ofcourse the risk is still there 21:10:43 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-253-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 21:11:00 <Rubidium> rav: and Borselle? 21:11:09 <rav> hmm hmm 21:11:41 <Rubidium> and there seem to be two research reactors in Petten (not Putten) 21:11:55 <rav> yea, sry 21:12:04 <rav> Im not 100% up to date 21:12:15 <rav> Borsele is especially weird 21:12:16 <Rubidium> http://www.nrg-nl.com/public/nlfacil/index.html <- what a little googling can do 21:12:24 <rav> it should've been closed a few years ago 21:12:30 <rav> but they extended the contract 21:12:34 <Bjarni> well, we closed our experimental reactor (it's odd that we even had one considering the political decision to never use nuclear power) and put pressure on Sweden to close the one they placed next to Copenhagen 21:13:09 <rav> well, France has a new first 21:13:14 <Bjarni> nice going Sweden. They placed one next to Stockholm, then decided that it was too close to their capital in case something happened, so they closed it and built one next to Copenhagen instead 21:13:19 <rav> they're building a nuclear fusion reactor 21:13:43 <Bjarni> naturally that resulted in some not so friendly remarks from Copenhagen 21:14:12 <rav> lol 21:14:27 <rav> yea, our city is bigger, so w3 h@ve teh p0wer :) 21:14:49 <Rubidium> I guess Denmark will still import radioactive materials for the forseeable future 21:15:10 <rav> well thats the advantage of fusion 21:15:27 <rav> it leaves no waste (or very little) 21:15:44 <Rubidium> rav: still, our current society needs radioactive materials 21:16:20 <rav> yes, but if this technology is developped further, we'll need less of the stuff :) 21:16:24 <rav> which is good imo 21:16:31 <Prof_Frink> rav: The disadvantage, of course, being that it's bloody hard to get out more energy than's needed to keep the reactor running 21:16:53 <rav> yes, you've got to keep the chain reaction going 21:16:55 <Bjarni> hmm, 450 MW power from nuclear power 21:17:02 <Bjarni> that's not much 21:17:22 <Bjarni> you should be able to do without it 21:17:33 <Rubidium> can't do without it already 21:17:56 <Bjarni> oh, you screwed up your power grid and is running at near max capacity? 21:18:14 <Rubidium> Bjarni: we're importing electricity 21:18:43 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 21:18:47 <Bjarni> hmm, no wind 21:18:54 <Bjarni> well, nearly no wind 21:18:57 <Bjarni> only 2 m7s 21:19:02 <Bjarni> *2 m/s 21:19:09 <rav> DEMO (DEMOnstration Power Plant) is a proposed nuclear fusion power plant that is intended to build upon the expected success of the ITER (originally an acronym for International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor) nuclear fusion power plant. Whereas ITER's goal is to produce 500 million watts of fusion power for at least 500 seconds, the goal of DEMO will be to produce at least four times that much fusion power on a continual basis. Moreover, whi 21:19:20 <Bjarni> yet the windmills produce 178 MW right now 21:20:10 <Bjarni> rav: I knew that... couldn't remember the numbers offhand, but I knew the concept 21:20:22 <rav> I didnt know that :p 21:20:33 <Bjarni> it looks promising if they actually get it to work 21:20:43 <Rubidium> Bjarni: as in importing 15-20% of our electricity needs 21:20:57 <Bjarni> that's not good 21:21:16 <Rubidium> and the society needs radioactive materials for (primarily) medical purposes 21:21:29 <Bjarni> you are famous for old windmills.... how about adding some new ones? 21:21:30 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:32 <ln-> Bjarni: have you had time to evaluate my patch? 21:21:48 <Bjarni> a decent amount of 2-4 MW mills would do wonders 21:21:56 <Rubidium> Bjarni: "kills the birds" 21:22:17 <Bjarni> oddly enough that's not a problem here 21:23:01 <Rubidium> the only place they want to place the wind mills is at the migration path of nearly any bird (that migrates) 21:23:13 <Bjarni> in the beginning they painted the ends of the rotor blades red to scare off the birds. They learned that they didn't even have to paint them red to make the birds stay out of the area of movements 21:23:49 <Bjarni> hmm 21:23:55 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: We have the problem "Scares the RAF" 21:23:59 <Rubidium> I quoted it for a purpose though 21:24:26 <Prof_Frink> Apparently their radar doesn't like high-speed spinny things 21:24:29 <Rubidium> the RAF still does 30 feet flights? 21:25:02 <Prof_Frink> Well, the pilots would probably take a wind turbine as a challenge 21:25:23 <Prof_Frink> Hit the reheats and fly between the blades 21:25:32 <ln-> Bjarni: a lot of endangered birds such as eagles die in windmill blades. 21:25:39 <Bjarni> high speed spinny things? It's 19-22 RPM 21:26:18 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Linear speed, not rotational 21:26:38 <Prof_Frink> Few RPM over a large radius turns out to be fairly quick 21:27:29 <Bjarni> yeah, the tip moves at a decent speed if it's say 21 RPM and the rotor blades are say 20 meters 21:28:35 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 21:28:37 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 21:28:55 * rav declares himself gone to bed 21:29:18 <rav> cya guys ;) 21:29:24 <Bjarni> <ln-> Bjarni: a lot of endangered birds such as eagles die in windmill blades <--- are you sure? We did a lot of research on this issue and the result was that surprisingly few accidents happened, way less than expected 21:29:42 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: zzz...] 21:29:57 <TrueBrain> burp 21:30:27 <Bjarni> bless you 21:30:45 <TrueBrain> tnx :) 21:31:13 <TrueBrain> downside of summer-weather: window open means small flies in your room 21:31:18 <TrueBrain> window closed means HOT HOT HOT HOT 21:32:01 <ln-> Bjarni: that's what the news told here some time ago. 21:32:24 <RichK67> ln-: believe everything the news says?? ;) 21:32:32 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-29-242.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:45 <ln-> RichK67: i don't see a reason why would they lie on this particular thing. 21:32:58 <Bjarni> we just had a top reporter, who was taken off the screen for 3 months because he told a lie to the camera "I'm in Iraq" while he was elsewhere 21:33:09 <Bjarni> don't trust everything they say blindly 21:33:53 <ln-> of course not. 21:33:55 <Bjarni> <ln-> RichK67: i don't see a reason why would they lie on this particular thing <-- sometimes the reason is not as obvious as you may think 21:34:08 <ln-> so it's all lies. 21:34:16 <Bjarni> could be 21:34:59 <Bjarni> Bush isn't real... it's just an invention to scare us and hopefully declare that our own poor government isn't as bad as that 21:35:02 <Bjarni> or ? 21:35:59 <Bjarni> you know, whenever the news told about something I knew about, then they had a hard time telling it correctly 21:36:16 <Bjarni> I read one of the good ones in the newspaper today 21:37:09 <Bjarni> apparently we just got a new train. At least that is what the newspaper said (they screwed up ownership) 21:38:37 <ln-> < ln-> Bjarni: have you had time to evaluate my patch? 21:38:47 <Bjarni> err 21:39:02 <Bjarni> in short: I didn't do it 21:41:09 <ln-> http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/ottd/default-language-by-locale-osx.diff 21:41:55 *** simon888 [~sim@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:44:52 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:04 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 21:46:05 <TrueBrain> yeah, I made a db model in Django for 32bpp stuff :) 21:46:06 <TrueBrain> how cool! 21:46:18 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has joined #openttd 21:48:20 *** simon444 [~simon@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:57:42 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00:36 <Wolf01> 'night 22:00:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:04:05 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-206-233.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:05:54 *** simon444 [~sim@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:07:37 *** johnsonp [~paul@87-194-114-100.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 22:13:05 *** simon888 [~sim@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:05 <simon444> yee, who do not put off thousands out for a new iMac is a fool. 22:14:40 *** Gekko[PDA] [~gekko@68.148.112.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:21 <RichK67> translation? 22:15:44 <skidd13> 'night 22:16:10 <RichK67> night skidd13... hope you can do some nice gfx for me :) 22:16:20 <G> RichK67: I think the translation is "There are many idiots in the world and I may or may not be one of them" 22:16:28 <RichK67> lol 22:16:43 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5FDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:18:30 *** simon888 [~sim@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:22:20 *** simon444 [~sim@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> s/may or may not/am 22:33:26 <glx> missing "be" in sed :) 22:34:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... 22:34:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes :) 22:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> s/be // 22:34:38 <Prof_Frink> glx: Never mind the missing trailing slash 22:34:58 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 22:35:02 <glx> yeah that too ;) 22:35:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's more meant as pseudo-code :) 22:36:01 *** simon444 [~sim@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:36:52 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-178-152.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:36:52 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-178-152.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 22:38:27 *** EmiT [~Miranda@194-176-150-82.gw.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:38:29 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 22:38:31 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:38:38 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 22:39:16 *** EmiT [~Miranda@194-176-150-82.gw.cz] has joined #openttd 22:40:00 <simon444> Will the new Mac Pro run openttd? 22:42:50 *** simon888 [~sim@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:42:55 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 22:42:56 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:42:56 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-84-186.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 22:43:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> i hereby request drastic measures against you_know_ho_is_meant by any kind of channel operator... 22:43:36 *** glx is now known as Guest109 22:43:36 *** glx|away is now known as glx 22:43:47 *** aneb [~kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #openttd 22:43:56 <TrueBrain> @kick simon444 on request by Eddi|zuHause2 22:43:57 *** simon444 was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [on request by Eddi|zuHause2] 22:43:57 <aneb> on my server... 22:44:20 <aneb> there are two companies 22:44:22 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: your wish is our command 22:44:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> thank you, but i have a fear that he will come back :) 22:44:38 <aneb> amassing a lot of money 22:45:01 *** simon444 [~sim@203-217-53-246.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:45:16 <simon444> wtf 22:45:17 <aneb> only one is password protected 22:45:32 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 22:45:34 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: and what is your point? 22:45:44 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:44 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:50 <simon444> I am some mystical being? 22:46:38 <aneb> should i delete the other, non-password protected, one? because i'm concerned that someone might hack into this company and somehow do a sinister thing to it 22:47:44 <aneb> ok, looks like a no then.. 22:48:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: that is completely up to you 22:48:22 <RichK67_> simon444: notwork failure ... 22:48:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> the fear is certainly valid, often vandals use such companies to lower the complete map to water level etc. 22:49:07 <simon444> TrueBrain is notwork failure? 22:49:15 <simon444> wtf is notwork? 22:50:04 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:50:08 <RichK67_> notwork is what happens when the network fails.... hence notwork failure.. its a play on words... but heh... lost on some 22:50:14 *** Guest109 [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:50:24 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: and i don't want that happoening because that is agsainst my three rules - cheating == abuse of server 22:50:37 <aneb> ok, i'll delete the company then. 22:50:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> you don't know "speed", not "star wars", and now not even what a "notwork" is? you are a truely ... unspeakable... being 22:51:48 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: you certainly do not need any of our permission to do that, but i would suggest you write in your server rules/welcome message/whatever that all companies should be password protected 22:52:51 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: i was only asking for advice. and by the way, how do i do a welcome msg? 22:53:11 <Prof_Frink> aneb: Or, you could password the company and if the original player returns, tell them the password 22:53:21 <TrueBrain> but how does he return? :) 22:53:33 <glx> good point :) 22:53:35 <aneb> TrueBrain: thats why 22:53:36 <Prof_Frink> As a spectato 22:54:03 <aneb> Prof_Frink: might not be obvious to them 22:54:07 <Prof_Frink> Which is a potato with poor eyesight. 22:54:34 <aneb> how do i do a welcome msg 22:54:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: i think there are on_<whatever>.scr files, for primitive welcome messages, or use the autopilot 22:54:46 <simon444> Eddi|zuHause2, you say you have me ignored then at other times you talk to me then you say you have me ignore... you are truly ...unspeakable.... being 22:54:56 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: autopilot? what? 22:55:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: it's in the forum 22:56:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> i DID have you on ignore for a while... 22:57:12 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22846 # HERE? 22:57:27 <glx> yes 22:57:44 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: who? 22:57:56 <TrueBrain> (ignore-lists are so cool! :)) 22:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> he_whose_name_i_don't_dare_to_mention 22:58:40 <TrueBrain> bah, glx, my IRC always marks you as green, but after your rejoin it picked an other color 22:58:41 <TrueBrain> annoying :p 22:58:41 <aneb> glx: it's a expect script. what do i do with it, rename? 22:58:42 <simon444> voldimort 22:59:26 <glx> aneb: it's just a tcl script 22:59:39 <glx> using expect package 23:00:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx is still green here... must be a coincidence, that "glx|away" got the same colour 23:00:42 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: possible.. 23:01:29 <glx> everybody is black here (except special users) 23:01:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:02:13 <glx> aneb: the creator of autopilot just joined :) 23:02:28 <Progman> "T* OldMemoryPool<T>::Get(uint) const [with T = Vehicle]: Assertion `index < this->GetSize()' failed." :( 23:02:32 <aneb> glx: ah, i understand how it works - output from openttd! DUH 23:03:31 <glx> Progman: what were you doing when it happened? 23:03:58 <Progman> copy sharing trains 23:04:01 <simon444> hi Brianetta 23:04:20 <aneb> and this autopilot pauses the game when there is no one playing 23:04:23 <aneb> cool. 23:04:29 <aneb> i need to use this 23:05:34 <Progman> reproducible with my savegame \o/ 23:05:52 <glx> nice :) post a bug report :) 23:06:08 <aneb> Brianetta: do i need to stop the openttd server? 23:06:10 <glx> and attach the savegame 23:06:23 <aneb> Brianetta: before starting autopilot 23:06:38 <glx> aneb: yes as autopilot will start the server 23:06:57 <aneb> was trying to make sure 23:07:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r10823 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp roadveh_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Fix r8610 [FS#1097]: the autoreplace window vehicle count didn't always update correctly) (Matthias) 23:12:57 <aneb> ok, wait. how do i configure autopilot? 23:13:35 <glx> read the readme? 23:14:34 <Progman> thats annoying :( 23:15:38 <aneb> i think autopilot is overkill, what's the other wway? 23:15:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10824 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) 23:15:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: Added basic code for seaplane airport support. 23:15:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Adds prop23 to the FSM spec, which sets a placement mask. Bit 7 of each byte in 23:15:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: mask decides whether the tile must be placed on water. Non-water tiles in mask 23:15:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: must be placed on non-water. Thus allowing some of FSMport to be on land, some 23:15:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: on water. 23:15:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Airport does not flood, but any aircraft on water at reload of a save will explode! 23:15:57 *** Red [SeXyRed@24.197.192.218] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:02 <RichK67_> :) 23:16:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: try the wiki for on_join scripts or something 23:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> RichK67_: i take it there is no "this may be on either land or water" case? 23:18:15 <aneb> what does "openttd install" mean? 23:18:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> is there even a water plane grf available? 23:18:43 <aneb> ah nm 23:18:46 <RichK67_> no, i dont think it would be required often... if it is, i'll just use another bit in the mask 23:19:09 <RichK67_> atm, any a/c can use it just as if it were a small airport 23:19:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> i hope that changes in the future :p 23:19:41 <RichK67_> however, there is an experimental flying boat coming... i hope... chicken and egg situation 23:20:13 <RichK67_> he didnt want to finish developing a/c when there was no seaplane airport to land at... now that is solved :) 23:20:44 <RichK67_> pls nobody whinge about the graphics... its a .grf for goodness sake... the graphics are totally redesignable 23:21:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> graphics are the last thing i worry about :p 23:21:35 <aneb> um, can i echo motd to a client in the script 23:21:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> eventually the artists show up to fix stuff 23:21:54 <RichK67_> btw, this shows *why* i have been going to all this length to redo the airports... because the next logical step from here, is seaports for ships :) 23:21:57 <aneb> on_server_connect.scr 23:22:13 <aneb> y/n please 23:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: "say <text>" 23:22:31 <aneb> ah i remember 23:22:32 <Bjarni> http://uk.gizmodo.com/2007/08/02/oops_iphone_display_needs_to_r.html <-- wtf 23:22:35 <aneb> thanks Eddi|zuHause2 23:22:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: like you would on the console 23:23:02 <simon444> iphone! 23:23:55 <simon444> Bjarni, lol. that is AT&T... 23:25:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> the most disturbing place where i found a rebooting windows was a banking terminal while it had my card... 23:25:37 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 23:25:48 <Bjarni> :D 23:25:54 <Bjarni> owned 23:26:00 <simon444> lol 23:26:00 <TrueBrain> I remember the days where you could get the local street phones to give a BSOD :) 23:26:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> it actually was intelligent enough to release my card when it shut down :p 23:26:23 <glx> I remember seeing a message box waiting to be clicked in a ticket machine 23:26:37 <TrueBrain> glx: we have that pretty often at our train station :) 23:26:45 <Bjarni> I can remember when you could make a 7 sec call without paying in the payphones 23:26:47 <TrueBrain> or the DOS message: please remove the FLOPPY disk and press any key to continue 23:26:48 <RichK67_> Eddi|zuHause2: thats the hardware being hardware controlled, not software :) 23:27:04 <Bjarni> I used it to call somebody and say "call this number" 23:27:14 <RichK67_> where is the ANY key? .... gah!! 23:28:11 <Bjarni> it would have been fun to see the ATM machine requesting the user to press F1 or something 23:28:25 <simon444> why do people think windows is stupid 23:28:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> because it is! 23:28:39 <simon444> windows is no intelligent 23:28:53 <Bjarni> "error: no keyboard detected. Press F1 to continue" 23:29:00 <simon444> therefore windows can not be stupid 23:29:06 <glx> Bjarni: that's BIOS 23:29:08 <simon444> s/no/not 23:29:08 <RichK67_> bad experiences... usually first looks 23:29:10 <Bjarni> I know 23:29:12 <TrueBrain> or like the old systems: Invalid User. Please Replace User and Press any Key to continue (real error!!) 23:29:30 <Bjarni> good one 23:29:36 <simon444> windows is not intelligent 23:29:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> Bjarni: actually, the terminal had a keyboard attached, it just lacked function keys and stuff 23:29:42 <simon444> therefore windows can not be stupid 23:30:07 <RichK67_> ppl used to slag off Win95, but I had one daily used (my games/work m/c) Win95 system that was "up" for 3.5 months with a reboot 23:30:25 <Bjarni> there is a quote on bash.org about a guy, who managed to read all the messages in his bios and when he wondered how it would print the error about no CPU found 23:30:42 <glx> win95 was stable when you didn't start many things at the same time 23:30:44 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 23:30:51 <aneb> the message doesnt echo 23:30:54 <aneb> why? 23:30:58 <ln-> or touch it at all, preferably. 23:31:22 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 23:31:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> i once had a Win95 beta that would reboot when you clicked the "minimise" button 23:31:47 <glx> the funny thing with win95 was the network 23:32:03 <glx> sometimes it didn't even see itself 23:32:09 <Bjarni> I once saw a win 95 installation that made a BSOD when you clicked start. It turned out to do the same for double clicking "this computer". I declared it dead and ready for a reinstall 23:32:16 <aneb> ping 23:32:22 <RichK67> sometimes its stupid users who blame Windows for their own mistakes... if that drives them to switch o/s then more fool them for wasting money 23:32:57 <aneb> I WROTE A SCRIPT AND IT DOESNT WORK 23:32:59 <aneb> WHY 23:33:11 <Bjarni> typo? 23:33:16 <ln-> aneb: BECAUSE YOU ARE A NOOB AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE SCRIPTS 23:33:16 <Bjarni> coding error? 23:33:20 <Bjarni> user input error? 23:33:31 <Bjarni> I think it's a user input error 23:33:46 <aneb> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Running_Startup_Scripts 23:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> BECAUSE YOU WROTE ALL CAPS AND THE SYSTEM IS CASE SENSITIVE!!11!einself 23:33:51 <RichK67> eg. my dad rang me up "Son, I type in a website address, and it just sits there ... nothing happens". ... took ages of debugging to finally work out he wasnt pressing Enter :) 23:34:07 <aneb> on_server_connect.scr 23:34:30 <aneb> i wrote that script 23:34:56 <glx> wher did you place it? 23:35:03 <aneb> put it in /usr/share/games/openttd/scripts 23:35:03 <simon444> lol 23:35:20 <Bjarni> RichK67: good one 23:35:26 <glx> [Note for Linux Users] The scripts directory needs to be in the directory of the executable. 23:35:29 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:35:43 <aneb> glx: whats that mean 23:35:46 <simon444> chmod +x 23:35:48 <Bjarni> Sacro: you need to press enter to continue 23:35:58 <glx> where is your openttd executable? 23:36:09 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 23:36:14 <aneb> ah 23:36:57 <aneb> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$ whereis openttd 23:36:57 <aneb> openttd: /usr/games/openttd /usr/share/man/man6/openttd.6.gz 23:37:10 <Sacro> Bjarni: orly? 23:37:40 <aneb> glx: so...? 23:38:13 <glx> so place the script in /usr/games/openttd 23:38:20 <Bjarni> dammit, Sacro figured out where his enter key is :s 23:38:27 *** RichK67_ [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:30 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:33 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:37 <Bjarni> bye? 23:38:37 <glx> hmm /usr/games/openttd/scripts indeed 23:39:21 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes... 23:39:26 <aneb> glx: i cant cd to that dir bc its not a directory 23:39:53 <glx> usr/games/openttd is a dir? 23:40:10 <RichK67> gnight 23:40:17 <Sacro> night RichK67 23:40:18 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 23:40:20 * Bjarni wonders where those scripts should be placed for the OSX port 23:40:29 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:10 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:41:36 <aneb> i think what they are saying on the article is to put the scripts directory in /usr/games since directory of executable == dirname /usr/games/openttd == /iusr/games 23:42:16 <aneb> (ignore the typo) 23:42:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: the scripts dir must be a subdirectory of the openttd dir 23:42:51 <simon444> I HAVE NO ENTER KEY! 23:43:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> i.e. on the same level as "data" and stuff... 23:43:04 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 23:43:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 23:43:13 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: read the wiki article. i'm on ubuntu 23:43:45 <glx> so if you pu scripts in /usr/games it should work 23:46:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:48:02 <aneb> nope doesnt work 23:48:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> you do something wrong. 23:49:01 <aneb> i dont know what that something is 23:49:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.snitchseeker.com/evile-elite-fan-fic-darers/breaking-out-my-shell-sa9-13088/#post395608 <- muahaha :p 23:50:14 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: can u help figure out my prob 23:50:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> aneb: probably not with the current amount of information 23:51:08 <aneb> Eddi|zuHause2: wheat info do you want? 23:53:19 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:53:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> how about starting with "ls -l `which openttd`" and what exactly you did? 23:54:37 <aneb> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$ ls -l `which openttd` 23:54:37 <aneb> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1447880 2007-06-09 15:11 /usr/games/openttd 23:55:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F222.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:41 <aneb> UM, i created a script in /usr/games/scripts/on_server_connect.scr with the content: 23:56:18 <aneb> say Welcome to our server. 23:56:18 <aneb> say Four rules: No abusing the server, 23:56:18 <aneb> say don't violate other user's rights, 23:56:18 <aneb> say set a password on your company before you leave, and 23:56:18 <aneb> say best of all, have fun! 23:56:20 <aneb> say Need the server administrator? E-mail: admin@fswh.ath.cx 23:57:11 <glx> say may need " enclosing 23:57:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'd remove the "before you leave", because vandals can also join when someone is connected 23:57:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i'd also try with "." 23:58:15 <aneb> with what, Eddi|zuHause2 23:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... a . often denotes a placeholder in mathematical notation 23:59:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> e.g. f(.) for a function with 1 parameter 23:59:21 <aneb> oh right, so u mean dbl quotes 23:59:49 <glx> say "something with spaces" 23:59:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes