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00:14:55 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:28 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:15:28 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has joined #openttd 00:27:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55:47 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:52 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 01:13:53 *** De_Ghost [~De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: no.. your a hobo] 01:26:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:31:42 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:54 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74D7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:56:53 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-171-222.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:58:53 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 02:42:25 *** aneb [~kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:42:29 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:13 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:54:32 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 03:00:51 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C17D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:03:46 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180065249.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:03:46 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:07:54 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C514.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:15:39 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:21:10 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:29:03 <Dumpshock> Hey... I'm wondering if anyone could give me some Multiplayer Technical help around OpenTTD. 04:33:22 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:34:00 <Dumpshock> Anyone alive in here? 04:42:42 <Dumpshock> Hello? 04:47:41 <Noldo> morning 04:47:48 <Dumpshock> Hey 04:48:02 <Noldo> just ask the question and someone may pick it up 04:49:08 <Dumpshock> Well, the issue Im having is I can't connect into Multiplayer games. I can see the servers, and can get into a game lobby, but thats it. Game lobby doesnt laod any information about the game and the buttons stay greyed out. 05:11:13 <exe> check if "lan games" is clicked 05:11:29 <Dumpshock> Nope... far as I know its set to internet 05:11:36 <Dumpshock> i'll double check right quick 05:11:38 <exe> by default it was lan 05:12:02 <Dumpshock> I got it working Once... but it stopped right after that 05:12:30 <Dumpshock> Set to Internet 05:12:38 <Dumpshock> I can see the internet servers 05:12:46 <Dumpshock> but when I try to join in, they dont load 05:13:03 <exe> what exactly happens? 05:13:31 <Dumpshock> I see the servers... choose one and click Join... The Game Lobby comes up, but stays blank 05:13:34 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:15 <Dumpshock> Any thoughts? 05:26:45 <Dumpshock> Still there exe? 05:37:10 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:45:13 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 05:46:06 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:51:17 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p54ABFA6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:59:22 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:05:14 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 06:07:46 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:11:45 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:14:57 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:17:06 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-194-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:27:22 *** Gekkko` [~Gekkko@CPE-58-164-21-84.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:27:34 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 06:29:53 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 06:30:59 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:33:15 <Rubidium> Dumpshock: looks like your firewall or your ISP blocks either incoming TCP packets or outgoing TCP packets going to port 3979 06:34:12 <Dumpshock> How would I fix that 06:34:28 <Dumpshock> Far as I know, I have port forewarding set up to that port 06:35:21 <Rubidium> portforwarding is (AFAIK) only needed for servers and not for clients 06:35:32 <Dumpshock> Yea... 06:36:20 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:36:26 <Rubidium> but I think that under normal conditions TCP does not use 3979 as "local port" when connecting to another computer, so the portforwarding does not influence it 06:38:02 <Rubidium> do things like webbrowsing work on that troubled computer? 06:38:18 <Dumpshock> Yea.. everything else is working fine 06:42:07 <Rubidium> strange that only one port seems to be blocked 06:42:20 <Rubidium> does it still happen when you disable the portforwarding? 06:47:59 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:26 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:49:02 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 06:53:36 <Dumpshock> Got any ideas what could be wrong and where I could go to fix it? 06:57:26 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@88-136-130-80.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #openttd 07:08:19 <Rubidium> Dumpshock: have you tried disabling the portforwarding? If that doesn't work I'm out of ideas 07:14:45 <Dumpshock> I can try that.. see what happens 07:16:02 <Dumpshock> You know.. I think that actually did it 07:16:32 <Dumpshock> or not... worked once 07:20:01 <hylje> just once? 07:20:02 <Dumpshock> It worked once, and now its back to not seeing the lobby 07:20:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 07:30:52 *** G_ [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has joined #openttd 07:33:09 *** G [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:54 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@211.28.166.100] has joined #openttd 07:40:10 <Dumpshock> Okay, I just switched port forewarding back on and I can see a game lobby again... 07:45:30 <Dumpshock> and its not working again 07:47:23 <Dumpshock> Guess I found a small temporary fix... I have to keep switching Port Forwarding on and off when I want to view it 07:59:50 *** Dumpshock2 [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:03:10 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-194-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06:29 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:07:25 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 08:10:40 *** Dumpshock2 [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:22:49 *** Gekkko` [~Gekkko@CPE-58-164-21-84.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.org] 08:23:33 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p54ABFA6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:29:39 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:30:00 <Dumpshock> Still having no real luck with connecting 08:33:38 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:33:38 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:38 *** RamboRonny is now known as NW|Aerandir 08:34:55 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 08:38:00 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 08:38:53 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:39:41 *** Dumpshock [~Dumpshock@c-67-190-44-189.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:07 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 08:44:23 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: maedhros * r10836 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: 08:57:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1014]: Make sure the third cargo type accepted by houses is valid in 08:57:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: the current climate when copying properties from existing houses and using 08:57:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: action 0 property 0F. 08:58:02 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 09:04:06 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has joined #openttd 09:20:37 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 09:37:05 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:37:09 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 09:38:04 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 09:39:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:16:20 <hylje> what's a reasonable maximum size for a patch 10:16:39 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-171-222.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:18:14 <Maedhros> i would say aim for a maximum of 30kb 10:18:18 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:37 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 10:24:41 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A50FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:57:06 *** alex_ is now known as debian 10:57:16 *** debian is now known as alex_ 11:01:42 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: brb] 11:05:17 *** compwiz [~adam18@221.223.239.202] has joined #openttd 11:05:24 <compwiz> hello! 11:05:41 <Dumpshock> hey 11:05:46 <compwiz> I was wondering what happened to the autoreplace vehicle option in 0.5.2? 11:05:52 <compwiz> it doesn't appear to be there anymore :( 11:07:06 <Dumpshock> I think its still there 11:08:26 <Dumpshock> Where are you looking for it? 11:08:40 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 11:10:24 *** Vemarkis [Vemarkis@a88-112-85-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:12:50 <Vemarkis> Incase someone is interested in some multiplayer with trams, & North American Renewal Set(+ the north american buildings set), my server is up and running for this weekend. See http://ppcis.org/aka (sorry for the bad webdesign) 11:17:43 <hylje> http://opr.hylje.fi/ -- updated patch submission and diff viewing 11:18:20 <peter1138> hmm 11:18:23 <peter1138> "Diagonal tracks should ideally not be used over long distances because they cannot be bridged." 11:18:28 <peter1138> "The server is currently online, and is running nightly r10834, and that revision is avaible from from the Nightly build page." 11:19:18 *** G_ is now known as G 11:19:40 <Rubidium> ghehe ;) 11:19:52 <Rubidium> newlies 11:19:57 <peter1138> "This password is in place to prevent clients repeatedly downloading the map then getting disconnected when they don't have the required newgrf files." heh 11:20:11 <Rubidium> more newlies 11:20:32 <Vemarkis> well old info, yes peter1138 11:20:41 <Rubidium> old? 11:20:57 <Vemarkis> I salvaged my last servers webpage and only changed a few things.. 11:20:58 <Rubidium> the last one is more than 8 months old 11:21:02 <hylje> :o 11:21:42 <Rubidium> and when a nightly was used more than a year 11:21:43 <peter1138> damn, people who play openarena must really suck 11:21:46 <peter1138> cos i keep winning :P 11:21:53 <hylje> :o 11:23:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E0D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:52 <Vemarkis> There peter1138, i updated the webpage slightly.. 11:28:20 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77074.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:19 <compwiz> Dumpshock, sorry 11:40:25 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:27 <compwiz> are you still there? 11:40:34 <Dumpshock> Hey 11:40:34 <Dumpshock> Yea 11:40:35 <Dumpshock> Im here 11:40:49 <compwiz> sorry I had to go for a bit 11:40:56 <Dumpshock> No probelm 11:41:12 <compwiz> anyway I'm looking for it in the train managment window 11:41:34 <compwiz> according to the wiki it should be among the buttons at the bottom of that pane, but it isn't 11:41:48 <Dumpshock> I think what you are looking for is in the Manage list button at the bottom of the Train window 11:42:00 <compwiz> haha 11:42:02 <compwiz> brilliant 11:42:07 <compwiz> I have no idea how I missed that 11:42:12 * compwiz is stupid 11:42:19 <Dumpshock> I found it by accident ^_^ 11:42:38 <compwiz> I guess that fact that it is selected by default threw me 11:43:53 <compwiz> thanks anyway :D 11:43:57 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 11:44:28 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:47:23 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-113-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:53:11 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-161-125.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:33 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 11:54:31 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A50FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 11:56:34 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:22 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:01:38 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-131-111.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:02:34 <hylje> logins and styles tweaked, http://opr.hylje.fi/ 12:04:01 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-204-58.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 12:06:28 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 12:08:23 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-255-71.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:10 <hylje> hm 12:10:56 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:11:38 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:13:58 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-171-222.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14:30 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:56 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has joined #openttd 12:15:32 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:17:09 <Progman> hylje: http://opr.hylje.fi/demo-patch/add-version/ failes 12:17:23 <Progman> "global name 'HttpResponseForbidden' is not defined" 12:17:46 *** zeth- [~zeth@ti131310a080-14952.bb.online.no] has left #openttd [] 12:17:57 <hylje> ah yes 12:18:06 <hylje> fixed locally 12:18:53 <Progman> "Key 'diff' not found in <MultiValueDict: {}>" 12:19:09 <Progman> if you dont upload a file 12:19:15 <hylje> thanks 12:23:43 <Progman> "__init__() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given)" 12:23:54 <Progman> /home/hylje/Projects/patch-tracker/pt/tracker/views.py in add_patch, line 78 12:24:37 <Progman> if sth. failes the entry should removed aswell 12:24:47 <hylje> its not atomic yet 12:25:31 <Progman> http://opr.hylje.fi/notfound// 12:26:28 <Ammller> hylje: nice, is that os? 12:26:30 <Progman> http://opr.hylje.fi/openttdlib/invalid%20version/ 12:26:53 <Ammller> oh, phyton :/ 12:27:01 <hylje> Ammller: i rather fix it up before releasing it 12:27:03 <Progman> http://opr.hylje.fi/openttdlib/-300/ should be a nicer 404 message 12:27:21 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:27:55 <hylje> Progman: thanks for the tests 12:31:32 <Progman> you stopped the server? 12:31:46 <Ammller> does the lib from dihedral still no grf support? 12:31:53 <Progman> "Data truncated for column 'slug' at row 1" 12:31:59 <hylje> Progman: no 12:32:46 <hylje> ah, arbitrary js 12:32:55 <hylje> i knew i had those available somewhere 12:37:09 <Ammller> Progman: did you don't hover? 12:37:10 <Progman> raiting should be a dropdown-list with userread-values, as "what means 1? crap? good?" 12:37:16 <Ammller> :) 12:37:21 <Progman> Ammller: ;) 12:37:36 <hylje> Progman: formatting is low-priority 12:38:00 <Ammller> indeed 12:38:24 <Ammller> noone will do sucht things, except Progman, of course ;) 12:38:36 <hylje> well we can have progman's evil twin doing stuff 12:38:41 <hylje> we dont want that on a live site 12:38:58 <Progman> thats the reason for testing stuff 12:39:26 <Progman> it makes no sense to test something you expect, its better to test something you doesn't 12:39:45 <Progman> The change-password form and link is right after the menu o_O 12:39:57 <hylje> i know. but it's hard to think about everything 12:40:10 <hylje> style got some bugs too 12:40:43 <Progman> http://opr.hylje.fi/profile/ 12:40:53 <Ammller> hylje: adding diff from local, maybe also a url possible? 12:41:08 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 12:41:30 <hylje> Ammller: fetching remote stuff is a hassle, much less as an optional thing 12:41:31 <hylje> :P 12:41:45 <Progman> the fix-add-stuff doesn't work o_O 12:41:46 <hylje> Progman: there is no directory structure 12:41:54 <Ammller> hylje: curl? 12:42:33 <hylje> however ill delay implementing remote diffs later 12:42:40 <hylje> now ill make it work more or less sanely 12:42:52 <Progman> http://opr.hylje.fi/admin/ 12:43:16 <hylje> i half-enabled it, yes 12:43:42 <hylje> is not accessible at all after i push the next update 12:45:12 <Progman> and why monospace? 12:45:29 <hylje> 'twas in truelight's sample layout so i stuck with it 12:45:38 <Ammller> hylje: I wrote a wrong Version format for submitting a patch 12:45:56 <Ammller> now, I have to upload the file an other time? 12:47:01 <Ammller> "Enter a whole number." <- what do you expect? 12:47:48 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.217.161] has joined #openttd 12:47:49 <hylje> there's little convenience workings around 12:47:57 <hylje> that's fairly low priority too 12:48:16 <Ammller> hmm, no able to submit my patch :/ 12:49:10 <Ammller> when I registered, I added my First and Last Name 12:49:20 <Ammller> but in the Profile, there is none 12:49:32 <Ammller> and also edit profile is empty 12:49:48 <hylje> heh, registration just plain discards first/last names 12:52:15 <Ammller> "get developer permissions"? 12:52:28 <hylje> now that's some convenience 12:52:47 <hylje> so i dont need to tick the permission stuff manually 12:53:03 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@211.28.166.100] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:56:37 <Ammller> but general looks nice and most of TL's draft are in 12:57:07 <peter1138> ~. 12:57:36 <Ammller> :) "Please do not test the system." 12:58:16 <Ammller> and an other general question, Is there non such Tracker available yet? 12:58:53 <hylje> i dunno. i just thought it would be fun 12:59:00 <hylje> because i havent done such stuff before 12:59:23 <Ammller> ok, but maybe you should make possibilty to link Forum and bug trcker 13:00:05 <Ammller> specially the bug tracker has also a category for submitting patches 13:00:11 <hylje> yes it does 13:00:28 <hylje> but it isnt particularly designed for patch management 13:00:38 <glx> but it's not very efficient for reviewing 13:00:53 <Ammller> yep, mean it will be replaced with that 13:01:14 <hylje> no 13:01:16 *** compwiz [~adam18@221.223.239.202] has quit [Quit: Explode!] 13:01:21 <hylje> unless people love it enough :p 13:04:30 <hylje> next problems dug up by prog involve transactions to properly fix 13:05:27 <Ammller> something like a "autopatch" new nightlies and inform the author, if it fails 13:05:45 <hylje> later on such functionality is involved 13:06:01 <hylje> but first the aim is to make it work reliably with the features of now 13:06:11 <Ammller> :), don't hurry 13:11:02 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:12:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10837 /trunk/src/blitter/ (32bpp_base.cpp 8bpp_base.cpp): -Fix [FS#1102]: DrawLine didn't bound-check the first pixel that was drawn (frosch) 13:20:55 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has joined #openttd 13:27:03 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:03 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 13:27:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10838 /trunk/src/ai/trolly/pathfinder.cpp: -Fix [FS#1119] (r10698): double negation where only single negation was needed. Patch by frosch. 13:33:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10839 /trunk/src/video/cocoa_v.mm: -Fix [FS#873]: bring up the assert window for OSX even when there isn't a video-driver loaded (PinguTux) 13:40:15 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A48FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:32 <TrueBrain> biebaboe! :) 14:15:10 <hylje> :o 14:19:00 *** Niki- [~niki@p50908DCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:22:57 *** Niki- [~niki@p50908DCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:28:07 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 14:28:25 <skidd13> How far is the opengl support? At any testable state? 14:31:04 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A48FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:31:07 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A48FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:43 *** skidd13 is now known as skidd13|away 14:37:52 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-113-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 14:45:57 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 15:03:42 <Ammller> skidd13|away: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=15364&hilit= (as I looked for clients) 15:05:58 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-114-053.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:58 *** paul_ [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06:35 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:58 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:07:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:08:39 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-194-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:47 <hylje> oh how i love fixing ugly code 15:11:22 <Priski> just start over from scratch :) 15:11:34 <hylje> thats pointless 15:11:35 <Priski> lot more fun 15:11:51 <hylje> first i hack together something that works 15:11:59 <hylje> then i reinvent it gradually 15:25:50 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:25:51 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 15:26:57 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:52:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 15:57:17 <skidd13|away> Ammller: Somehow I have in mind that peter1138 had a opengl-blitter patch. Don't know if there is any public stuff for testing. Jast want to ask if there is something now. :) 15:57:36 *** skidd13|away is now known as skidd13 15:58:13 <Ammller> :) yeah, its an old post, was just funny 15:58:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:13 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 16:04:30 *** ramboronny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:04:57 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@88-136-130-80.adslgp.cegetel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:42 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Quit: :wq] 16:11:12 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 16:11:28 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:15:56 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl :)] 16:17:14 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 16:17:58 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [] 16:18:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77074.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:21 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 16:35:00 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-13-71.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:44:55 <Wolf01> hello 16:45:26 <alex_> ciao 16:54:24 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:44 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-13-71.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:40 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A48FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:31:52 *** iratsu [~iratsu@modemcable090.239-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:49:24 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 17:50:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10840 /branches/0.5/lang/ (croatian.txt unfinished/croatian.txt): [0.5] -Update [Lang]: move croation from unfinished, and prepare it for a trunk-sync 17:53:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10841 /branches/0.5/ (8 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:53:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Backport from trunk (r10835, r10593, r10500, r10497, r10410, r10357, r10199): 17:53:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [Windows] Do not try to minimise or restore the window when closing OpenTTD [FS#998] (r10835) 17:53:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: One could not remove locks that were build in a (very) old version of OpenTTD [FS#1038] (r10593) 17:53:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: One cannot navigate using arrow keys in the game name text box [FS#1038] (r10500) 17:53:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Ship's maximum speed wrongly shown [FS#1013] (r10497) 17:53:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [OSX] Of the resolution is changed to something that is too high for the monitor, then it is reduced to fit the monitor size, solving several crashes and graphical glitches [FS#458] (r10410) 17:56:04 <Wolf01> seem that 0.6.0 is near, no new features being added to trunk and waiting for newindustries 17:56:45 <TrueBrain> I think that holidays is a better word for what you try to describe 17:56:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10842 /branches/0.5/lang/ (29 files in 2 dirs): 17:56:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Backport from trunk (r10479, r10488, r10510, r10532, r10550, r10559, r10583, r10592, r10620, r10626, r10648, r10703, r10737, r10828): 17:56:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Language updates (r10479, r10488, r10510, r10532, r10550, r10559, r10583, r10592, r10620, r10626, r10648, r10703, r10737, r10828) 17:57:29 <Wolf01> i'm on holiday too since... 2 hours ago 17:58:31 <Wolf01> i think i'll sleep all the week sitting on the sofa with the laptop on my legs 17:59:05 <hylje> TrueBrain: is it fun to type revisions 17:59:26 <TrueBrain> hylje: yup :) 18:01:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10843 /branches/0.5/lang/ (croatian.txt galician.txt unfinished/latvian.txt): [0.5] -Fix r10842: a few strings didn't make it through the automated sync system (more to come though) 18:01:59 <hylje> ha 18:02:03 <hylje> automated sync! 18:02:05 <TrueBrain> :) 18:02:17 <TrueBrain> You didn't really think I would enter all those revisions by myself, did you? 18:02:33 <hylje> yes. yes i did 18:02:46 <TrueBrain> I know my bash :) 18:02:54 <Rubidium> Windows users always assume such things as they do not know the power of bash, awk, sed and friends 18:04:19 <Wolf01> i have cygwin :P 18:05:18 <Rubidium> with crappy unix/linux alike tools 18:05:44 <Wolf01> yeah :) 18:06:37 <Rubidium> what a hell it is to get stuff that works perfectly under linux and OSX working under cygwin/mingw 18:06:55 <hylje> maybe its cos microsoft and their ways 18:07:31 <Diabolic-Angel> why should anyone want to get stuff working under cygwin, if he can use linux instead 18:10:11 <Wolf01> TrueBrain, do you have a newer build for winCE? 18:10:52 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: nope 18:13:14 *** Niki- [~niki@p5090BD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:13 *** Tekky4347 [~Tekky@p5493E785.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10844 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (newgrf_config.cpp openttd.cpp station_cmd.cpp): 18:31:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: Airports loaded from old savegames (prior to vsn74). Only applies currently to Small, Large, and Commuter. 18:31:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Note: this just loads the airports. It does not correct any aircraft. 18:32:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10845 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (airportsextended.grf sprites/airportsextended.nfo): [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Missed off allocation of graphics to a graphics set. 18:34:49 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 18:35:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:36:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10846 /branches/0.5/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [0.5] -Fix r10842: a few strings didn't make it through the automated sync system 18:51:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10847 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Airports were set to temperate only. Removed. Also NFOrenum both .nfos. 18:53:40 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl, or not :P] 18:57:23 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:57:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:00:25 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:00:41 *** aneb [~kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:44 <aneb> Hi. 19:00:55 <aneb> alex_: ping 19:02:59 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 19:03:28 <aneb> How woiuld I, on my server, communicate rules?? 19:04:42 <aneb> i have tried scripts, realy i have, but they dont just work. 19:06:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: glx * r10848 /branches/0.5/video/win32_v.c: [0.5] -Fix (r10841): 'mixed declaration and code' warning 19:18:42 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 19:21:56 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180065249.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:20 *** kyevan [~kyevan@pool-71-98-12-182.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:24:40 <kyevan> Is OpenTTD really based on a disassembled TTD? 19:24:59 <Maedhros> yes 19:26:13 <kyevan> So... it's illegal. Great. Thanks for opening me up to lawsuits >_> 19:30:08 <Maedhros> you're welcome 19:32:46 <kyevan> Whatever. It's not like my copies of the data files are entirely legal, either >_> (Not immoral, but not legal. I had an old DOS copy, which broke, and the data files are from a downloaded Windows one.) 19:33:04 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 19:34:23 *** MalMen [~asdadasda@bl8-118-37.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:34:32 <MalMen> hello 19:34:40 <MalMen> i am here to make a report of the game 19:34:43 <MalMen> the game is very cool 19:35:03 <Ammller> I have a cool Idea for disasters 19:35:10 <MalMen> i start play that game at 6 years ago 19:35:26 <MalMen> but the developers need remake the graphics 19:35:27 <Ammller> ups sry 19:35:33 <MalMen> that graphics is very bad for yeps 19:35:36 <kyevan> Anyway, em, I was 5 last time I played, so maybe... yeh, I'll probably do a little better this time. 19:36:14 <MalMen> that game is very cool 19:36:19 <MalMen> and is very playeble 19:36:20 <Maedhros> the graphics look pretty good to me, considering they were made 13 years ago 19:36:27 <MalMen> but need seriouse update of grafics 19:36:39 <MalMen> Maedhros yes 19:37:02 <kyevan> Maedhros: Weren't they updated in Deluxe, though? So more like 11 :P 19:37:17 <MalMen> but is bad for yout eyes 19:37:26 <MalMen> *your 19:37:31 <Maedhros> Deluxe was released in 1995, i think, so maybe 12 19:37:31 <Ammller> Did you play on Toyland? 19:37:41 <kyevan> MalMen: What do you mean by that? 19:37:42 <Rubidium> am I wrong to assume that developers are generally not artistic enough to draw good graphics? 19:37:42 <Maedhros> you can tell the HQ wasn't updated though, as it doesn't match the Deluxe grass :) 19:37:57 <MalMen> kyevan for me the graphics is bad for my eyes 19:38:03 <MalMen> i cant play very time 19:38:14 <Ammller> The developers has already made their work (32bpp) 19:38:25 <Ammller> now its you turn MalMen 19:38:29 <MalMen> my head begin to blow up 19:38:30 <Ammller> draw! 19:38:31 <kyevan> Have you tried the alternative sets? "Toyland" looks cool but is harder on the eyes... 19:38:46 <kyevan> MalMen: Well, feel free to start working on your own graphics set :P 19:38:49 <MalMen> my english is a litle bad, i need google to help me to talk :P 19:39:12 <MalMen> kyevan my life not permit that, i am only reoporting a situation 19:39:20 <MalMen> maybe have very people not playing for that reason 19:39:42 <MalMen> if you want play with current graphics, no problem for me 19:39:53 <MalMen> but i think its a good time to update that 19:39:57 <MalMen> 12 years is a long time 19:40:05 <Maedhros> well, we're not artists 19:40:08 <Ammller> MalMen: you can also buy the addon 19:40:16 <Rubidium> do the graphics really give you a headache? Or is it that you played full screen on a CRT monitor? 19:40:27 <MalMen> no 19:40:42 <MalMen> i play a 640x*** on my laptop 19:40:44 <Rubidium> as CRT monitors with a low refresh rate give me a very annoying headache very quickly 19:41:16 <hylje> yes 19:41:29 <hylje> later on 85Hz is barely bearable ;_; 19:42:09 <MalMen> Ammller buy what addon ? 19:42:16 <kyevan> MalMen: Go try some other Free games, then come back and complain ;P 19:43:11 <kyevan> like the old LinCity 19:43:13 <MalMen> kyevan where can i get this ? 19:43:26 <MalMen> http://lincity.sourceforge.net/ 19:43:28 <MalMen> hmmm 19:43:39 <kyevan> Get what? And anyway, if TTD's graphics are hard on the eyes for you... 19:44:06 <kyevan> and the game is nothing alike, I'm just saying that these are pretty good. 19:54:12 <kyevan> Aeeee, breakdown! 20:02:04 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:14 *** Buibous [otus@80.220.1.160] has joined #openttd 20:02:41 <Buibous> Hey... Does anybody know why openttd slows down whenever i move the mouse cursor ingame 20:02:52 <Buibous> If i dont move it the game runs at the usual speed 20:03:15 <Buibous> cpu usage jumps to 100% when i move the cursor 20:04:08 *** aneb [~kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05:19 <peter1138> what os? 20:05:54 <hylje> which 20:06:04 <Buibous> winxp 20:11:11 <Ammller> have you big cities and many vehicels? 20:11:43 <Buibous> no it happens already in the start screen 20:11:45 <Rubidium> Buibous: is it only moving the mouse, or are you pressing some keys? 20:11:47 <Buibous> and on any map 20:12:02 <Buibous> just wiggling the cursor a bit makes openttd eat 100% cpu power 20:12:07 <Buibous> or moving it etc 20:13:31 <Buibous> Hmm.. ok i found the culprit 20:14:10 <Buibous> It's this skinning app that i have running.. it does something with the top bar of the window 20:16:58 <hylje> :o 20:22:54 <kyevan> WindowBlinds? 20:23:15 * kyevan knows someone who works at stardock - or did, anyway. 20:26:09 <Buibous> no.. bbleanskin.. it's a blackbox plugin 20:27:45 <hylje> enjoy your ancient port of an ancient star-nix window manager 20:28:09 <Buibous> yeah i know.. but i've gotten used to it 20:43:03 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-131-111.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: playing games with my heart] 20:43:50 <kyevan> Hey, I turned a profit last month! That's new :) 20:49:11 <hylje> omg 20:50:43 *** Niki- [~niki@p5090BD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:51:20 <Wolf01> 'night 20:51:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:52:21 <kyevan> Ok... how do you build a train system that doesnt, you know, suck? 20:52:38 <kyevan> The 'best' I've been able to come up with is a loop, or maybe parallel tracks. 20:54:42 <Rubidium> kyevan: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/PublicServer:Archive_-_All_Games <- take a look at those 21:10:12 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:11:09 <Hendikins> Bjarni: They've scheduled my medical. I thought I screwed up! :) 21:20:15 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 21:23:22 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 21:23:27 *** arctic [~ola@214.211.216.81.static.ud.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:56 <arctic> Hello 21:25:06 <arctic> I'm having some problems with openttd, where the mousepointer disapears when I go to fullscreen-mode 21:25:38 <arctic> When switching to fullscreen, the pointer is visible in the center of the screen, but as soon as I move the mouse, the pointer goes away 21:25:52 <arctic> Anyone seen this before and have some pointers on what to look for ? 21:26:31 <Maedhros> which os are you using? 21:26:36 *** Vemarkis [Vemarkis@a88-112-85-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:26:38 <arctic> NetBSD 21:26:57 <Maedhros> ooh. i've been meaning to try that for a while 21:27:03 <Maedhros> anyway, what version of openttd? 21:27:19 <arctic> I've been playing openttd on this computer several times before, but this time it doesn't really work :( 21:27:36 <arctic> You should do that, its quite nice :) 21:27:47 <arctic> openttd 0.5.1 21:29:30 <Maedhros> yeah, i'm getting used to freebsd at the moment :) 21:29:41 <Maedhros> can you try a more recent version, say 0.5.2 or 0.5.3-rc2? 21:29:49 <arctic> Ah, yeah, that's a good start :-) 21:30:10 <arctic> Well, yes, I guess I could, but 0.5.1 is the latest version available in the package system 21:30:22 <arctic> And I'm guessing that is due to some compilation problem or something 21:30:42 <Maedhros> hmm. if it is, the pkgsrc guys haven't told us 21:31:31 <arctic> Well, I was actually just trying to be polite :-) Could also be that he is lazy/out of spare time :-) 21:31:58 <Maedhros> :) 21:34:24 <Rubidium> hmm, that netbsd developer who added netbsd to the package system did some strange things 21:34:39 <arctic> Impressive, it doesn't seem to require one single patch to compile under netbsd (except for some changes to the makefile).. That is REALLY rare thing :) 21:34:54 <arctic> robidium: Oh? Really? What kind of strange things ? 21:35:22 <Rubidium> removing OSX specific makefile parts 21:36:39 <Rubidium> I can't believe that gcc -dumpversion returns something with OSX (either upper or lower case) 21:36:46 <Rubidium> on a netbsd machine 21:37:39 <arctic> Hmm, yeah, something related to "OSX path setup" is removed 21:37:46 <Maedhros> pkgsrc isn't just used on netbsd though, i think 21:37:51 <Rubidium> I meant gcc -dumpmachine 21:38:09 <arctic> maedhros: Right, it is supported on quite many platforms 21:38:27 <Rubidium> arctic: what does gcc -dumpmachine return? 21:38:45 <arctic> bash-3.2$ gcc -dumpmachine 21:38:45 <arctic> i386--netbsdelf 21:39:26 <Rubidium> then something *very* weird is going on as, for some unknown reason, it finds OSX in that string 21:40:12 <arctic> Well, it could be related to what Maedhros said too, that pkgsrc is used on more platforms than just netbsd 21:40:26 <Rubidium> but is it on OSX? 21:40:34 <Maedhros> i wouldn't be surprised, actually 21:40:55 <arctic> Yeah :) 21:40:59 <arctic> Since October 2001 :P 21:41:51 <arctic> I would guess that pkgsrc-stuff is stored in some other path that differs from the normal osx hier, and that's why those path-specific things for OSX are removed in the package 21:42:26 <arctic> Hmm 21:42:35 <arctic> 5.2 seems to compile :P 21:45:46 <arctic> 5.2 works under netbsd atleast :) 21:45:51 <arctic> Still same problem though :( 21:46:48 <arctic> But if any of you guys have any contact with the pkgsrc-guy, it might be worth mentioning to him that pkgsrc can be updated to v0.5.2 :) 21:47:42 <Rubidium> arctic: any idea whether libsdl has been updated since you last tried OpenTTD? 21:48:30 <arctic> rubidium: Given that it's like a year or so since I last tried openttd, I would really hope that there has been some updated to sdl since that :-) 21:50:46 <Rubidium> then I presume that libsdl is causing the error as we handoff the handling of the mouse pointer to SDL (we only tell it what to draw and it tells us where it is and where it clicked) 21:52:53 <arctic> Yeah, I kind of expected sdl to be the problem too 21:57:54 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00:09 <glx> do you have any other sdl app using mouse in fullscreen to test? 22:01:24 <arctic> No, not that I'm aware of :) 22:02:28 <glx> what is your sdl version? 22:02:58 <arctic> 1.2.11 22:03:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r10849 /branches/0.5/lang/ (15 files in 2 dirs): 22:03:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Fix r10842: months of not-fully-correctly language syncing caused a small mess; this cleans that up 22:03:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [0.5] -Fix r10842: not all language-files were fully synced with trunk. Now they are for sure 22:03:42 <arctic> Q:My mouse cursor disappears when in fullscreen mode! 22:03:42 <arctic> A:This happens because you're directly accessing the video memory, and the video driver doesn't support hardware cursor overlays. Simply create the cursor as a sprite and blit it onto the screen where the mouse cursor coordinates are. 22:04:00 <arctic> Could this be related ? 22:04:19 <arctic> From the libsdl-faq 22:04:49 <glx> dunno, but I'm going to update my sdl install (having 1.2.10 and 1.2.12 is available) 22:06:01 <arctic> I would actually expect the above to perhaps be related 22:06:27 <Rubidium> I'd guess so too 22:06:37 <Rubidium> though you said it worked before 22:06:45 <arctic> I'm using linux-binary-drivers for my ATI graphics card under NetBSD, so I guess the driver could report faulty information on how it accesses memory etc 22:08:08 <arctic> Yeah, but I don't really think I've ever used openttd since I switched hardware 22:08:21 <arctic> Most of the os is the same though, except for the graphics driver etc 22:08:40 <Maedhros> DrawMouseCursor() looks like it is drawn as a sprite 22:11:23 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-204-58.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:12:22 <kyevan> erm, how do signals work? 22:12:59 <Bjarni> Hendikins: how can you screw up a medical examination? 22:14:25 <Hendikins> Bjarni: I haven't done that yet. The roleplay/group bullshit was what I thought I'd screwed up (apparently I didn't...) 22:15:54 <Maedhros> kyevan: have you seen this? http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Signals 22:17:35 <kyevan> yeh.... but, how does it change train movement? 22:17:53 * kyevan 's stupid... the AI has been known to do better than em. 22:18:48 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B832C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:58 <Maedhros> if you've only got one train on each line, they won't be particularly useful 22:19:51 <kyevan> Mmm.. 22:19:57 <kyevan> I'm scared of trains, really. 22:20:09 <kyevan> I don't have any mental model for how they work. I can do roads, though! 22:20:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83595.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:20:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:22:24 *** arctic [~ola@214.211.216.81.static.ud.siw.siwnet.net] has left #openttd [] 22:22:33 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:27:30 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5250.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:57:17 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5250.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59:33 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 23:07:52 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-194-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:11 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 23:38:23 <Brianetta> We need to port OpenTTD to the HP 50c 23:38:28 <Brianetta> why? 'cause I have one 23:38:46 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-60-149.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 23:38:59 <TrueBrain> feel free 23:39:51 <Brianetta> I will 23:39:55 <Brianetta> but it's gonne be crap! 23:40:02 <Brianetta> really 23:40:02 <TrueBrain> so? 23:40:08 <Brianetta> like, no graphics 23:40:14 <Brianetta> it'll just inform you of salient events 23:40:15 <TrueBrain> who needs it anyway? 23:40:18 <Brianetta> "Your train arrived" 23:40:25 <Brianetta> "You got paid" 23:40:29 <TrueBrain> make it possible to run it as dedicated server 23:40:35 <Brianetta> "You built a bit of track" 23:40:37 <TrueBrain> that would get the news 23:40:39 <Brianetta> "A tree grew" 23:41:06 <Brianetta> I'd need to cram it into half a meg 23:41:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10850 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp openttd.cpp): 23:41:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: Update aircraft positions for old savegames. 23:41:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Either bounce aircraft into air or stay in hangar. 23:41:15 <TrueBrain> ... though.. 23:41:19 <Brianetta> so, such a dedicated server would be a bit disappointing 23:41:21 <TrueBrain> maybe if you remove a few things 23:41:27 <Brianetta> unless I use loads of swap 23:41:31 <Brianetta> it has an SD card slot 23:41:33 <Brianetta> I have a 2GB card 23:41:34 <TrueBrain> loo 23:41:39 <TrueBrain> so it can be done :) 23:41:49 <Brianetta> It's gonna be crap (: 23:42:07 <TrueBrain> who cares! 23:42:11 <Brianetta> Oh 23:42:13 <Brianetta> No networking 23:42:15 <Brianetta> Just USB 23:42:33 <TrueBrain> that does suck 23:42:44 <Brianetta> oh, there's infra red 23:42:49 <Brianetta> which blows 23:42:53 <Brianetta> and sucks 23:42:55 <Brianetta> at the same time 23:43:01 <TrueBrain> like a vacuumcleaneR! 23:43:21 * Brianetta looks up matrices 23:43:27 <Brianetta> One thing this can do is maths 23:43:41 <Prof_Frink> Brianetta: You are in a maze of twist valleys all alike. 23:43:54 <Brianetta> Prof_Frink: A good start. 23:44:06 <Brianetta> "You must place your HQ." 23:44:13 <Prof_Frink> GO NORTH 23:44:18 <TrueBrain> that would be a nice thing to create guys 23:44:20 <Brianetta> "You cannopt place your HQ here; it will likely be eaten by a grue." 23:44:24 <Prof_Frink> There is a hill, with a coal mine on. 23:44:25 <TrueBrain> there are websites that make it really easy to do so 23:44:34 <TrueBrain> sounds like a cool thing to show on openttd.org :) 23:44:58 <Prof_Frink> openttd - the text-based adventure! 23:45:32 <Prof_Frink> "You step off the edge of the map. You fall forever into the black void." 23:45:45 <Brianetta> N 23:45:48 <Brianetta> There is a tree here 23:45:55 <Brianetta> > demolish tree 23:46:06 <Brianetta> The ground is brown. Lanshesterford hates you. 23:46:24 <Brianetta> > Build railway track north south 23:46:29 <Brianetta> There is a railway line here. 23:46:47 <TrueBrain> I am serious guys 23:46:48 <TrueBrain> create it! 23:46:50 <TrueBrain> would be very cool :) 23:47:09 <Brianetta> You hear the sound of an approaching train. 23:48:24 <Prof_Frink> A bus moves onto the crossing. 23:48:46 <Brianetta> There is an explosion. 23:48:48 <Brianetta> You die. 23:48:56 <Brianetta> Would you like your posessions identified? (Y/N) 23:48:59 <Prof_Frink> Y 23:49:13 <Brianetta> An uncursed cursor of railway building 23:49:20 <Brianetta> Four signals 23:49:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:38 <Sacro> hehe 23:59:39 <Sacro> it'd make a cool MMORPG