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00:00:35 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 00:04:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10861 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/newgrf.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Updates to spec now reflected in newgrf.cpp. No trailing 00 00 in Prop 0E. Prop 19 now identifies which hangar each coordinate is for. (allows multi-tile depots). 00:05:20 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:10:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10862 /branches/NewGRF_ports/docs/NewGRFAirports.doc: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Updates to spec. Prop 0E, Prop 1D, Prop 23. 00:24:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C39F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:33 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-233-173.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 00:32:03 *** alex__ [~email@78.86.15.85] has quit [Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20070730)] 00:34:28 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-248-162.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:36:51 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-233-173.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:59:46 *** Red is now known as Franky 01:00:13 * Franky says relax. 01:00:25 *** Franky is now known as Guest422 01:00:56 *** Guest422 is now known as Red 01:16:17 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: brb] 01:16:43 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 01:21:00 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [] 01:29:59 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-114-166.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:31:55 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76181.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:34:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:36:13 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:38:09 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75A3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:21 <kyevan> Does openttd need the grfs for a dedicated server? 01:49:11 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 02:01:23 <glx> yes dedicated server needs original files 02:01:35 <glx> (it does all drawing internally) 02:08:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10863 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: 02:08:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Calculation of rate of height loss was always reducing by a minimum of 1. Now rate of change is rounded to nearest of 0 or -1. 02:08:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: This allows shallower approach angles (as in commuter airport). 02:08:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: (Can be done neater with floating point, but integers keep it faster.) 02:10:16 <RichK67> gnight 02:10:49 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 02:28:55 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:44:54 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-228-193.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 02:45:20 <kyevan> Does ottp multiplayer work over ipv6? 02:48:36 <DaleStan> kyevan: What happens when you try it? 02:49:02 <kyevan> Well, I don't have anyone else running openttd with v6 working to try it with :P 02:49:30 <kyevan> (r10827 on 2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::5909) 02:51:15 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 02:51:34 <kyevan> mreh, whatever. It's down now :P 02:56:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> you don't really expect any useful answers at 5AM, do you? 02:57:30 <kyevan> Not really 02:57:46 <kyevan> But it's 10 PM here :P 02:58:13 <kyevan> (I'm one of those crazy Americans.) 02:59:00 <kyevan> Aaanyway. Scenerio imports from TTO/TTD? Is it possible? 03:00:35 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C3D1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:07:48 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387CFAD.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:10:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> TTD, yes, TTO, no. 03:13:21 <kyevan> Eddi|zuHause3: Ooh, cool. How do I import TTD scenarios? Just dump 'em in the Scenario folder? 03:13:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, like you'd load any other scenario 03:14:22 <ThePizzaKing> I remember I used to get a couple of weird side effects doing that 03:14:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> it should even support some versions of TTDPatch 03:15:06 <kyevan> What's with all the hate for Toyland? It's... fun. In an "Oh my god what the hell is this!?" sorta way 03:15:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> ThePizzaKing: those are called "bugs" 03:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> kyevan: yes, for 5 minutes, after 2 hours, it just hurts your eyes 03:16:23 <ThePizzaKing> Heh, yeah, they're probably fixed by now, that was over a year ago 03:43:54 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-228-193.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:07:41 *** De_Ghost [~De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: no.. your a hobo] 04:23:14 *** G_ [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:26:30 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 04:44:43 *** Gekkko` [~Gekkko@CPE-58-164-21-84.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:48:30 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:48:52 *** Tekky4347 [~Tekky@p5493D70D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:27:34 <SERVEPRO> Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. 05:30:52 <Gekkko`> American. 05:30:55 *** Gekkko` is now known as Gekko 06:20:58 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:23:48 *** G [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has joined #openttd 06:38:57 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:51 *** HMage [Q@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 07:00:27 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:09:17 *** G_ [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has joined #openttd 07:13:04 *** G [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:16:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:17:36 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip118.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 07:18:39 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84BFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:18:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:20:20 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@ppp121-44-99-26.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:22:05 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:22:22 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 07:22:41 <hylje> progman, i fixed some more escaping overlooks, also slugifier (umlauts work as expected now) 07:23:06 <hylje> although you *can* collide stuff with abusing the slugifier a bit.. :-) 07:23:50 <hylje> however i'm tweaking the data structure a bit and so i'll be cleaning opr db records partially 07:24:46 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-250-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:26:37 <hylje> think i'd want to remove your erroneusly named users too :p 07:29:20 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-121-209-210-213.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:40:32 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has joined #openttd 07:41:19 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 07:52:41 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C3D1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:54:17 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:56:52 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.91] has joined #openttd 07:56:57 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.91] has quit [] 08:00:39 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-250-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:49 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 08:19:55 *** SERVEPRO [~gravix__@pool-71-114-58-174.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:23:33 *** HMage [Q@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: HMage] 08:24:51 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has joined #openttd 08:25:45 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 08:29:35 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:29:35 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 08:33:14 *** G_ [~nigel@202.154.150.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:54:18 <hylje> http://opr.hylje.fi/ call for breaking 08:55:51 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 08:58:35 <hylje> and the code's been shaping up somewhat well 09:00:29 <SpComb> hmm, project source code management tools 09:01:06 <hylje> that 09:17:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:17:30 <SpComb> also, Django? 09:17:40 <hylje> oh yes. 09:18:12 <SpComb> I played around a bit with web.py yesterday: http://zapotekii.paivola.fi:8155/ 09:18:52 <SpComb> comes complete with lolcats-speek 09:19:09 <hylje> lawl 09:21:57 <SpComb> but web.py has weird magic as well, although on a smaller scale of magintude than pylons 09:22:08 <hylje> magic! 09:23:28 <SpComb> yeah, I had "users = {}" in the same module as my classes/handlers, and on every request, the users global was a new, empty dict, irrelevant of how I modified it in earlier versions 09:23:52 <SpComb> moved it over to a globals.py module, and importing that, and it's maintained between requests 09:23:56 <SpComb> not sure what's going on there 09:28:50 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:28:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:29:36 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C3D1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:29:45 <Wolf01> hello 09:30:11 <hylje> hii 09:30:16 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 09:39:35 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 09:40:55 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:47:12 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C3D1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:50:07 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C3D1.versanet.de] has quit [] 09:55:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:56:05 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-168.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 10:01:01 <Wolf01> ok, seem that now i'm ready to compile ottd witn vs2005.. 10:02:24 <Wolf01> this afternoon i need your help TrueBrain, i'll try to compile for winCE 10:14:07 <Wolf01> just one question, how to make install? 10:17:57 <hylje> Progman: i'd appreciate you breaking opr again 10:21:21 <Rubidium> does version need to be 3 characters long? 10:21:34 <Rubidium> why can't I add patches made against a git tree? 10:22:19 <Rubidium> the fact that there is less space above than below the "error" messages when adding a patch gives me the feeling that they belong to the input box above instead of the input box below 10:22:30 <hylje> i know 10:22:40 <hylje> i just havent touched the styles too much 10:22:49 <hylje> and about git patches, is there an error? 10:23:00 <Rubidium> "Enter a whole number." 10:23:06 <hylje> oh, i see 10:23:10 <Rubidium> 9ca1941d91b6ce6359442701dfcfa45880e9f48f <- that's the revision 10:23:24 <hylje> i'll tweak it to allow alphanumerics then 10:24:17 <hylje> and is version being at least 3 characters long problematic? 10:24:48 <Rubidium> it is when you number them without minors 10:25:24 <Rubidium> could always write the version in english ;) 10:25:27 <Rubidium> "one" 10:25:30 <hylje> :) 10:25:42 <hylje> ive thought of adding an universal humanizing filter to numbers 10:25:54 <hylje> 1-9 -> "one", "two", .. 10:27:02 <Rubidium> the diff "viewer" doesn't show tabs 10:27:14 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-114-166.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:27:28 <Rubidium> or multiple subsequent spaces for that matter 10:27:28 <hylje> layout problem, will get to it 10:27:37 <hylje> rather style problem 10:28:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84BFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 10:28:25 <Rubidium> cool, I can make fix thises for non-existent lines in the diff 10:28:30 <hylje> :) 10:29:45 <Rubidium> or negative linenumbers 10:30:12 <hylje> that's fine as it doesnt break stuff, is just a bit.. insane :p 10:30:30 <hylje> i'll make it more sane after i get the more crucial stuff fixed 10:31:47 <Rubidium> "empty" comments are probably not nice either 10:32:13 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: not (the make install) 10:32:23 <hylje> Rubidium: empty comments fixed (locally) 10:32:48 <hylje> is the git revision always 32 characters? 10:32:58 <Rubidium> yup 10:34:28 <Rubidium> hmm, why is last name required when I don't have a last name filled in there? (profile) 10:34:47 <Rubidium> that way I can't "just" change my "free" text 10:34:54 <Rubidium> well, not for "free" at least 10:35:07 <hylje> oh 10:35:17 <hylje> ill see to that 10:35:55 * SpComb ponders fiddling around with django 10:36:52 <Rubidium> booh..., can't make a patch with name "who cares" anymore :(, even though there is no patch called "who cares" (in any (upper/lower) case combination) 10:37:03 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 10:37:16 <hylje> hm? 10:37:25 <TrueBrain> hylje: the FixThis urls are not really.... correct :p I added 2 FixThis with the same Summary, and now they both link to the same url 10:38:11 <hylje> TrueBrain: yeah, misplaced unique constraint really 10:38:17 <Rubidium> and why does it only do the patch name check when all other checks have succeeded? 10:39:04 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:39:05 <hylje> Rubidium: the name check is elsewhere at the moment, ie it doesnt do it when the other fields validate 10:39:56 <TrueBrain> hylje: the FixThis things are overcomplicated; it should be easier, somehow... dunno what exactly, maybe it is just the way it is printed 10:40:10 <TrueBrain> but a Summary and a Comment field for it, seems overkill 10:40:21 <TrueBrain> (no developer wants to spent days on adding those things ;)) 10:40:34 <hylje> true.. streamlining :) 10:40:53 <hylje> i'll fix these things and see how it could be made neater 10:41:17 <Rubidium> :O my last two fixthises urls point to opr.hylje.fi/ 10:41:28 <TrueBrain> the user rating.. why not make 5 radioboxes, from 1 to 5? 10:41:38 <hylje> TrueBrain: the current one is a quick hack 10:41:55 <hylje> Rubidium: oh, thanks you found a relativity bug 10:42:30 <TrueBrain> hylje: can you make that 'get-diff' gets the name of the uploaded filename? 10:42:37 <Rubidium> what? I've proven that Einstein was wrong? 10:42:57 <hylje> TrueBrain: yes, but the data structure doesn't currently support that 10:42:58 <TrueBrain> (maybe possible via headers) 10:43:08 <hylje> its no biggie 10:43:09 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@88-136-130-80.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #openttd 10:43:15 <TrueBrain> and one thing sucks about Django, it can not ALTER tabls, only totally reset it... 10:43:20 <TrueBrain> a bitch to change things later on... 10:44:02 <hylje> the user can alter table though 10:44:04 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that by design, so you pay more attention when you are designing your application ;) 10:44:07 <hylje> its a matter of beign spoiled 10:44:45 <hylje> considering that the code isnt totally awful anymore ive thought of releasing it too 10:45:12 <TrueBrain> hylje: add your site to git :) 10:45:29 <hylje> enlighten me 10:45:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84BFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:45:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:45:50 <TrueBrain> it was more of a joke :p But if you really want it, we can arrange it for you 10:45:57 <TrueBrain> just tell me you are not using Window 10:45:58 <TrueBrain> s 10:46:02 <hylje> i'm not 10:46:04 <hylje> :) 10:46:06 <TrueBrain> pfew :p 10:46:29 <Wolf01> [12:32:28] <TrueBrain> Wolf01: not (the make install) <- so treasure finding for the files? 10:46:40 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: yeah: bin/ 10:46:57 <Wolf01> it puts all the files in objs/release/ 10:47:07 <TrueBrain> the binary you have to get from there yes 10:47:09 <Wolf01> all mixed with .o etc 10:50:03 * SpComb thinks he managed to break it, inaways 10:50:40 <SpComb> clicking on the "service" patch on the front page has a certain undesired side-effect, as well as making it impossible to view the page for that version 10:51:30 <hylje> ah yes, namespace collisions :) 10:51:51 <hylje> ill add those to validation 10:52:25 <SpComb> and make logout use POST 10:52:48 <hylje> would you mind to let me know of a neat way of doing that? 10:53:06 <SpComb> well, it would have to be a form with a submit-button, if you wanted to keep it as a link you'd need javascript 10:53:24 <hylje> the submit button can masquorade as a link 10:53:56 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: HMage] 10:54:00 <SpComb> with css styles? 10:54:06 <hylje> more or less 10:54:16 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 10:57:10 <SpComb> no / or % in version names :( 10:58:03 <TrueBrain> hmm, who knows this: somehow when I now call system() from my PHP scripts, like: system("/bin/ls");, the command /ls is called 10:59:19 <SpComb> hmm, the username gets truncated 10:59:52 <TrueBrain> ah, safe_mode 11:00:00 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:00:05 <hylje> SpComb: ? 11:01:44 <SpComb> I signed up with a 1024-char username, and it gets truncated down to 30 chars 11:01:52 <hylje> oh, thats such a bug 11:01:58 <hylje> i'd call that design 11:02:32 <hylje> however ive been improving registration a bit now 11:03:44 <SpComb> silent truncation 11:04:10 <hylje> hmm it shouldnt do that anymor 11:08:34 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-114-166.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:11:54 <hylje> fixing the FixThis.. the irony. 11:13:05 <SpComb> the svn project uses svn for their source code management 11:13:43 <TrueBrain> sounds like a DAH! 11:13:53 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A46CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:07 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-168.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 11:14:12 <SpComb> I just wonder what they do if they discover some kind of corrupt-everything bug in whatever version of svn they are using themselves 11:14:42 <TrueBrain> load back a nightly dump, like we can? :) 11:14:56 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 11:15:54 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-168.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:15:54 <SpComb> well, if it's some kind of consistent bug or something 11:16:54 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 11:16:55 <Gekko> I like to touch. 11:17:32 <TrueBrain> @kick Gekko touch this 11:17:32 *** Gekko was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [touch this] 11:17:33 *** Gekko [~Gekkko@CPE-58-164-21-84.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:17:38 <Gekko> I did. 11:17:44 <Gekko> lol 11:18:23 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-228-44.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 11:22:35 <TrueBrain> then a website asks for your VAT number, so you fill it in: INVALID VAT NUMBER 11:22:36 <TrueBrain> fuck you 11:23:37 <TrueBrain> (no, not you!) 11:23:48 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:24:39 *** Gekko [~Gekkko@CPE-58-164-21-84.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.org] 11:26:09 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 11:34:53 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38:11 *** Counterpoint [~john@85.75.135.220] has joined #openttd 11:38:51 <TrueBrain> k, guys, need your help: http://new-www.openttd.org/ <- who can find a page that isn't working (and within openttd.org domain ;)) 11:39:00 *** Counterpoint [~john@85.75.135.220] has left #openttd [] 11:41:33 <hylje> hmm 11:44:22 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-228-44.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:46:00 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 11:47:53 <Wolf01> except the svn.openttd.org links? 11:48:01 <TrueBrain> yes 11:48:45 <TrueBrain> hmm, transition from Apache to lighttpd went VERY smooth 11:49:34 <TrueBrain> and for the next 24 hours it even works cross-http :p 11:49:36 <TrueBrain> yeah 11:49:55 <izhirahider> the site seems a lot faster by the way 11:49:59 <TrueBrain> it is 11:50:02 <TrueBrain> about 10 times 11:50:35 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 11:50:42 <TrueBrain> I now switched it back to www.openttd.org, and it takes a DNS update before you now use lighttpd :) 11:51:11 <izhirahider> why did you switch? 11:51:25 <TrueBrain> Apache is bloat-ware 11:53:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54:20 <izhirahider> TrueBrain, are you also switching WT2? 11:54:28 <TrueBrain> izhirahider: no, that is currently at an other host 11:54:42 <izhirahider> alright 11:55:35 <TrueBrain> anyway, you just said it yourself: it is a LOT faster 12:06:14 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:08:07 <skidd13> @seen RichK67 12:08:07 <DorpsGek> skidd13: RichK67 was last seen in #openttd 9 hours, 57 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <RichK67> gnight 12:09:50 <hylje> oh, sigh 12:10:41 <hylje> can't properly install git on my dedi 12:10:50 <hylje> about time i'll get a new box :p 12:11:02 <TrueBrain> haha 12:11:04 <TrueBrain> want one? :p 12:11:31 <hylje> i got one stashed but i'm waiting for an identical box to upgrade it with 12:16:33 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 12:17:02 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [] 12:17:40 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-226-250.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 12:18:03 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 12:24:07 <Wolf01> TrueBrain, do you want to help me to compile ottd for wince? 12:24:22 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: sure 12:24:42 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/pocketpc.v3.patch 12:24:52 <TrueBrain> apply, switch to correct thingy 12:24:57 <TrueBrain> and happy compiling 12:27:50 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:27:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:29:08 <Wolf01> uhm, i got some errors 12:29:16 <TrueBrain> like? 12:29:32 <Wolf01> C:\Programmi\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ce\include\crtdefs.h(100) : fatal error C1189: #error : ERROR: Use of C runtime library internal header file. 12:29:58 <TrueBrain> euh, that problem happened when...... 12:30:02 <TrueBrain> something was forgotten somewhere... 12:30:04 <TrueBrain> can't remember :p 12:30:10 <TrueBrain> you switched to PocketPC SDK? 12:30:33 <Wolf01> uhm, i just set to compile for windows mobile 2003 12:30:45 <TrueBrain> yeah, that won't work 12:30:49 <TrueBrain> PocketPC is the only one I added 12:30:52 <TrueBrain> Windows Mobile 5.0 12:32:27 <Wolf01> uhm 12:33:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10864 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Add: Dutch translations to the NewGRF to show how translations should be added to the NewGRFs. 12:35:48 <Wolf01> ok, now is slightly different: http://rafb.net/p/8mghp824.html 12:36:25 <TrueBrain> I am pretty sure my patch solved that problem 12:36:41 <Wolf01> i patched the sources 12:36:42 <TrueBrain> you applied against revision of the patch? 12:36:47 <Wolf01> head 12:36:54 <TrueBrain> downgrade please 12:37:14 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:37:20 <TrueBrain> (just svn is down for the moment, so you can't :p) 12:37:30 <TrueBrain> k, now it works again :) 12:37:30 <TrueBrain> hehe 12:40:30 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A46CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 12:44:57 <Wolf01> same errors 13:05:27 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:35 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:23:43 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:35:10 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:37 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:38:41 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A46EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:40:30 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A46EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 13:57:22 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 14:04:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10865 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 14:04:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: Added oilrig. Reloads correctly for old games. 14:04:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Add: Added SYST class for system (hidden) FSMs (like oilrigs), that should not appear in the build lists. 14:16:47 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10866 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/airports.grf: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Removed letters NW etc from arrow icons. 14:23:10 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9583632.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:28:58 *** llugo [~lugo@pD958371A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:01 <hylje> TrueBrain: did you happen to set a password for my git? 14:41:13 <TrueBrain> hylje: just for your ssh account 14:42:09 <hylje> it appears to not eat my pw 14:42:53 <TrueBrain> try again? 14:43:03 <hylje> tried a couple of times 14:43:07 <TrueBrain> it indeed fails 14:43:10 <TrueBrain> one moment 14:43:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 14:44:01 <TrueBrain> hylje: it is a git only account, but it should work :s 14:45:00 <hylje> :x 14:46:09 <TrueBrain> try now 14:46:17 <TrueBrain> for some reason the git-shellw as removed from the allowed shells 14:47:03 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 14:48:16 <hylje> error: dst refspec patchtracker does not match any existing ref on the remote and does not start with refs/. 14:48:23 <TrueBrain> ah, yes 14:48:24 <TrueBrain> euh 14:48:29 <TrueBrain> I was afraid of that :) My line was wrong :p 14:48:36 <hylje> heh 14:48:57 <TrueBrain> if I could jsut remember the correct syntax :) 14:50:44 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: do you remember the push line to create a new branch in remote git? 14:52:08 <Rubidium> maybe git push <branch> ssh://username@git.openttd.org/<path>:<branch> 14:52:17 <TrueBrain> hmm, no 14:52:26 <TrueBrain> what might work, hylje, is: master:refs/heads/patchtracker 14:52:30 <TrueBrain> instead of master:patchtracker 14:52:56 <hylje> success 14:53:14 <marc-andre> hiho 14:53:17 <TrueBrain> \r :s 14:53:27 <TrueBrain> hi marc-andre 14:53:33 <marc-andre> how can i activate newindustries in the nightlies? 14:53:40 <marc-andre> if it is possible 14:53:42 <glx> you can't 14:53:46 <marc-andre> damn 14:54:13 <marc-andre> i thought maybe it's possible now because the GRFs just say that the newindustries switch must be activated 14:54:28 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:35 <glx> this switch is not the only needed stuff 14:59:49 <hylje> TrueBrain: in case you're interested, the git tree is pushed now 14:59:59 <TrueBrain> hylje: I noticed, I will look into it :) 15:06:17 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:40 <hylje> i better learn how git works in the future :p 15:09:52 <hylje> oh, all so much stuff to be done 15:11:37 *** Farden [jk3farden@81.56.247.196] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:12:06 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:27 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:16:14 *** alex__ [~email@78.86.15.85] has joined #openttd 15:17:14 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.91] has joined #openttd 15:18:12 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.91] has quit [] 15:22:33 <TrueBrain> http://svn.openttd.org/ <- it is back online for testing; if the CPU load and slowness of the page is still as high as it was a year ago, it will be gone soon again :) 15:22:46 <Sacro> zomg trac! 15:23:32 <Prof_Frink> while :;do curl http://svn.openttd.org/ >/dev/null;done 15:24:07 <TrueBrain> while true; do if event.join(Prof_Frink); then kick Prof_Frink; fi; done 15:24:44 <Prof_Frink> That's not very nice 15:24:51 <TrueBrain> neither are you :) 15:28:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> what does curl do? 15:28:39 <Prof_Frink> groks URLs 15:28:51 <Prof_Frink> essentially, wget to stdout 15:29:45 <TrueBrain> I use wget -O /dev/stdout -q 15:29:45 <TrueBrain> :p 15:31:26 <Prof_Frink> curl is easier to remember 15:33:23 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: you got it to work? 15:33:30 <Wolf01> no 15:34:03 <TrueBrain> hmm, the 'Random' fix isn't in the patch? Odd.. 15:34:07 <TrueBrain> how did I solve it.. can't remember.. 15:34:14 <TrueBrain> maybe I just disabled it in the header-file 15:34:43 <TrueBrain> I suggest you to try that :p 15:41:22 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A44B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:06 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:43:06 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:43:36 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-61-56.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:46:26 <TrueBrain> I found back the patch I based some of my WinCE work on, and noticed I did almost everything in it... it suprised me :) 15:46:27 <TrueBrain> hehe 15:49:26 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:03:53 *** exe [~zgibhy@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 16:11:38 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:37 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-250-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:16:27 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:30:33 *** paul_ [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:33 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:57 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A44B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:51:06 <kyevan> what files from TTD /can/ openttd use? 16:51:29 <kyevan> (It needs the GRFs and sample.cat, and can use the .gm files - are there any others?) 16:51:39 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:05 <paul_> the origional scenarios can be used too 17:01:15 *** paul_ is now known as Dephenom 17:03:52 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:04:45 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:11 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:47 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 17:16:37 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 17:23:07 <kyevan> Oh, cool 17:23:39 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:23:41 * kyevan 's building emself a package of just the files used by ottd, to speed up installing nightlies and such 17:24:42 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:25:55 <Rubidium> in the nightlies is *very* simple, just place it in ~/.openttd/ or "my documents"/OpenTTD 17:26:07 <Rubidium> no need to copy them into the directory where you extracted the nightlies 17:27:23 <Sacro> heh 17:27:32 <Sacro> arch has my nice openttd-svn pkgbuild 17:30:24 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@88-136-130-80.adslgp.cegetel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10867 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (newgrf_fsmports.cpp newgrf_fsmports.h): [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: SYST class needed to be loaded to the specific class 31 to avoid disturbing list sequences. 17:31:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10868 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (seaplaneport.grf sprites/seaplaneport.nfo): [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: seaplaneport.grf missing new method of availability testing. 17:38:11 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10869 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/sprites/seaplaneport.nfo: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: WARNING WARNING critical system error here... fixed. 17:39:39 <hylje> time to fix the fixthis stuff 17:44:45 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r10870 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/sprites/seaplaneport.nfo: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: removed unused Action02 entry. 17:50:03 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 17:50:32 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:53 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 17:52:35 <kyevan> Rubidium: Really, the nightlies will read all files from userdir now? 17:52:37 <kyevan> Yay! 17:59:10 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:18 <valhallasw> "Fix: WARNING WARNING critical system error here... fixed." => i.e. we now just get an Assertion Failed (system.error)? :P 18:09:37 <hylje> gaaaaah 18:09:46 <hylje> i cant seem to think around FixThis 18:10:12 *** arcil [~arcil@91.7.104.118] has joined #openttd 18:12:36 <hylje> i'll just give up the fanciness and make them glorified comments .P 18:14:24 *** eJoJ [~ejoj@117.84-48-125.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 18:15:24 *** SERVEPRO [~gravix__@pool-71-114-58-174.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10871 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/station_cmd.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: do not pay for clearing water tiles when placing watery tile on them anyway. 18:33:25 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10872 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (98 files in 10 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Sync: with trunk r10765:10871. 18:41:47 *** arcil [~arcil@91.7.104.118] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:52 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41617.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:56:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:57:52 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:00 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76181.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:01 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:19:46 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.91] has joined #openttd 19:21:37 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:21:44 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 19:27:22 *** Zr40_ [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:31:50 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 19:34:39 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:41:00 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76034.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:22 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76034.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41:38 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76034.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:18 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.91] has quit [Quit: Leaving FTW!] 19:42:58 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-61-56.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 19:44:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76DE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-61-56.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:15 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:06:15 <Wolf01> 'night 20:06:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:07:54 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 20:08:03 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:44 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A65A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:43 *** alex__ [~email@78.86.15.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:18 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 20:15:46 <kyevan> cp *.ss0 ~/.openttd/scenarios/ will give me all the scenarios from TTD in open, right? 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21:32:31 <Ammller> I like to give another player money, he has nothing and max loan 21:32:44 <Ammller> I have too much 21:33:18 <Bjarni> what is the problem? 21:33:57 <Ammller> but if I like to give him money, the msg appears, that I can't loaned money give away 21:35:31 <Ammller> If someone has no is going to bankrupt 21:35:40 <Ammller> not possible to solve him with giving money? 21:35:46 *** Mucht [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: I'll be back!] 21:41:54 <Bjarni> you need to repay your own loan first 21:42:15 <Bjarni> damn, I just got a threat from Muncht :( 21:43:12 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:38 <Ammller> he left now, mom 21:46:12 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 21:50:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10874 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/station_cmd.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: remove the old airport remnants from the building/destruction commands. 21:50:25 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:20 <Ammller> Bjarni: http://mozart.ammler.ch/ottdc/borrow.png 21:51:23 *** Zr40_ [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40_] 21:51:37 <Ammller> I click to beggar and send money 21:51:45 <Ammller> and after that, the screen 21:51:57 <TrueBrain> Ammller: give less money 21:52:19 <Ammller> ah, you mean more 21:52:36 <peter1138> no, less 21:52:49 <Ammller> I also tried with one pound 21:52:55 *** peter1138 changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | mom is not an appropriate abbreviation for moment 21:52:57 <Ammller> but now I konw the problem 21:53:08 <TrueBrain> nice peter1138 :) 21:53:09 <Ammller> the max you can give is 20 000 000 21:53:19 <Ammller> and he has more than that 21:53:25 <TrueBrain> Ammller: something like that.. and there is a bug that gives the wrong error when going over it 21:53:59 <Ammller> I gave him already 100 000 000 21:54:09 <Ammller> and he built stupid 21:54:23 <Ammller> (btw, inflation is on) 21:54:32 <TrueBrain> hmm, I should continue my head-to-head patch.. 21:54:38 <TrueBrain> such a nice way to play one-on-one 21:56:28 <Ammller> is the max value you can give adjustable? 21:57:01 <TrueBrain> I believe it is an overflow of some kind 21:57:08 <TrueBrain> dunno, someone needs to look at it 21:57:15 <Rubidium> overflow? 21:57:36 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-250-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57:39 <TrueBrain> did you clamp it? (I assume so seeing your reaction ;)) 21:57:43 <TrueBrain> then only the error message is wrong :) 21:57:49 <Rubidium> it has been clamped for a long time 21:58:00 <Ammller> :) 21:58:10 <TrueBrain> so you did good :) Last time I checked (and wrote) it, it wasn't :p 22:01:20 <TrueBrain> ah, the 20M is hardcoded :p 22:01:21 <TrueBrain> hehe 22:01:29 <Ammller> :) 22:01:48 <Ammller> with inflation? 22:01:54 <TrueBrain> nope 22:02:31 <Ammller> why did you hardcode such thing? 22:02:37 <TrueBrain> I really don't know 22:02:49 <Ammller> no comment there? 22:02:53 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 22:03:05 <TrueBrain> I guess it was estimated as enough back then 22:03:13 <glx> but you can send it multiple times 22:03:34 <Ammller> not if he has borrowed more than 20 22:03:37 <TrueBrain> with a very high inflation that is a real bitch :) 22:03:49 <TrueBrain> Ammller: that isn't any problem 22:04:15 <Rubidium> nah, it's different... 20 million * max currency multiplier is probably about 2^31 I guess 22:04:34 <Ammller> I already play with pounds 22:04:40 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: good point 22:04:45 <TrueBrain> maybe we should send it as int64 :p 22:05:01 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: not send it as int64 22:05:16 <Rubidium> the currency is printed on the console when transferred 22:05:31 <TrueBrain> so? 22:05:37 <Rubidium> "%d" 22:05:41 <TrueBrain> %l 22:05:42 <TrueBrain> solved :) 22:05:43 <Rubidium> that's not int64 compatible 22:05:56 <TrueBrain> but I see your point 22:06:03 <TrueBrain> I currently more wonder why sometimes you get that LOAN error 22:06:17 <Rubidium> %l ;) as if that is cross-platform compatible ;) 22:06:24 <TrueBrain> hehe, totally not 22:06:34 <TrueBrain> if > 2^31, print: 2^31+ 22:06:35 <TrueBrain> ;) 22:07:29 <Rubidium> on the other hand the currency multiplier isn't taken into account for the function that tells how much money has been transferred 22:07:47 <TrueBrain> but printing fails 22:07:50 <Rubidium> it just sends the amount in pounds over the chat 22:08:13 <TrueBrain> 'p->player_money - p->current_loan' <- is this safe with the new Cost blabla? 22:08:26 <Ammller> ok, just tried, beagger payed back 4 millions so he has less than 20 borrowed 22:08:40 <Ammller> then I can give him money... 22:09:03 <Rubidium> :O 22:09:07 <TrueBrain> Ammller: can you give me the savegame? 22:09:11 <Rubidium> haha! 22:09:17 <Ammller> server tt-ms.de 22:09:27 <Ammller> ok, mom, make a save 22:09:28 <TrueBrain> Ammller: sorry, I don't feel like finding a matching revision 22:09:29 <Rubidium> SubtractMoneyFromPlayer(CommandCost(-amount.GetCost())); 22:09:36 <Rubidium> that is still negative for the player 22:09:43 <Rubidium> ergo... it fails ;) 22:10:07 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: so that means giving money reduces the maount of money on the player you give it to? 22:10:07 <Rubidium> you "can't afford it" as the end balance is still negative 22:10:39 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: no, you substract the negative of what you have been given 22:10:40 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:10:47 <Rubidium> got to love double negatives 22:10:52 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-226-250.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10:55 <TrueBrain> I don't see the problem, but okay :p 22:12:09 <Rubidium> hmm, looks like my hunch wasn't right :( 22:12:57 <TrueBrain> ah, any error in that function results in the loan error 22:13:49 <TrueBrain> which is kind of wrong if you ask me ;) 22:14:09 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 22:15:10 <Rubidium> it isn't really wrong, as the cases that the command returns an error are cases where the preconditions of the command are not met 22:15:28 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: that is just fine; what is wrong that the error says: your loan is too high 22:15:35 <TrueBrain> while in fact it can even be that you try to send a negative value 22:15:50 <TrueBrain> (or a 0 value) 22:16:07 <Rubidium> then the function that is issueing the command is wrong 22:16:11 <Rubidium> not the command itself 22:16:14 <TrueBrain> yes 22:16:19 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I never said who to blaim ;) 22:16:34 <TrueBrain> DoCommandP(0, money_c, id, CcGiveMoney, CMD_GIVE_MONEY | CMD_MSG(STR_INSUFFICIENT_FUNDS)); 22:16:39 <Rubidium> true 22:16:45 <Ammller> TrueBrain: http://mozart.ammler.ch/ottdc/autosave11.sav 22:16:49 <Rubidium> three lines up, change the 0 to 1 22:16:58 <Ammller> I used cooper grf pack 22:17:09 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: indeed :p 22:17:42 <TrueBrain> bah, then I first need to get thatone... 22:17:45 <Ammller> http://mozart.ammler.ch/ottdc/autosave9.sav <-- error msg 22:17:45 <TrueBrain> don't feel like it :p 22:18:08 <Ammller> TrueBrain: you don't need the grfs for this do you? 22:18:18 <TrueBrain> yup, Disconnecting Train! 22:18:21 <TrueBrain> happens :) 22:19:09 <TrueBrain> anyway, Ammller, I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to give him 1 pound even if he has a loan of 20M+ 22:19:26 <TrueBrain> hmm, let's use a safe value: 10 pounds 22:19:38 *** Tekky4347 [~Tekky@p5493F4A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:19:44 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:20:49 <Rubidium> maybe _current_player != _local_player in main_gui at the place where the command is issued? 22:20:57 <Tekky4347> Hi, is it documented anywhere what requirements patches must fulfill in order to be multiplayer-compatible? 22:21:05 <Rubidium> anyway, I'm again trying to go to bed 22:21:08 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I considered that, but I doubt _current_player is wrong.. 22:21:12 <TrueBrain> we will need to check :) 22:21:15 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: night :) 22:21:15 <Ammller> TrueBrain: Because he is in dept with more than 20millions 22:21:25 <TrueBrain> Ammller: there is no real check for that 22:21:30 <TrueBrain> unless indeed _current_player is wrong 22:21:35 <TrueBrain> which would be bad anyway :p 22:21:59 <TrueBrain> Tekky4347: hehe, I think that can't be documented 22:22:12 <TrueBrain> there are some basic things, like no Random() in CMD_s 22:22:21 <TrueBrain> (in the test-round of the CMD_s that is) 22:22:31 <TrueBrain> no InteractiveRandom()s in game-logic 22:22:36 <TrueBrain> no buffer overflows 22:22:46 <TrueBrain> no local caches 22:22:52 <Tekky4347> I want to develop several single-player patches and need to know what I must take into account for them to be also multiplayer-compatible. 22:22:55 <TrueBrain> just the usual :p 22:23:07 <Rubidium> cache == cache.trash().rebuild() 22:23:07 <TrueBrain> those things pretty much covers it 22:23:25 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: GO TO BED! 22:23:28 <Rubidium> ;) 22:23:28 <Tekky4347> thx for the information, TrueBrain. 22:23:29 <TrueBrain> hop hop :p 22:23:39 <Rubidium> paardje in galop? 22:23:43 <TrueBrain> Tekky4347: and always feel free to ask any of us developers to check for that specificly :) 22:23:49 <TrueBrain> @kick Rubidium GA NAAR BED 22:23:49 <TrueBrain> :p 22:24:09 <TrueBrain> I just watched Blood Diamond, now going to play Just Cause 22:24:13 <TrueBrain> the irony :) 22:25:17 <Ammller> revision is 10851 22:25:33 <Ammller> the companies has no pws 22:25:41 <Ammller> you can join both 22:25:50 <Ammller> so you see it self 22:26:35 <TrueBrain> Ammller: it is not that I don't believe you, it is that the code suggest it should not work like that; so it needs a deep look at it, with a lot of prints of variables and shit 22:26:39 <TrueBrain> don't feel like that tonight :) 22:26:57 <Ammller> oh, ok 22:27:05 <Tekky4347> Thx. TrueBrain. By the way, why should no Random() be called in CMD_s? Are these CMD_* funtions only used by the client issuing the command, so that only one client would call Random() and the other clients won't, thus causing the state of the random number generator to desync? Is that the reason? 22:27:08 <Ammller> but I will keep the save 22:27:23 <TrueBrain> Ammller: please do :) 22:27:27 <TrueBrain> Tekky4347: exactly right :) 22:27:31 <Ammller> its not 9, its autosave8.sav 22:27:32 <TrueBrain> that is, there are 2 types of calls to CMD_s 22:27:37 <Tekky4347> ah, good guess :) 22:27:39 <TrueBrain> first, the test-round, second, the do-round 22:27:51 <TrueBrain> the do-round, and specificly the DC_EXEC block, can contain CMD_s in theory 22:27:53 *** Xintron [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:55 <TrueBrain> the test-round never can 22:28:02 <TrueBrain> as if it fails, it is only executed locally on the client 22:28:08 <Tekky4347> ah, thx. 22:31:46 <Tekky4347> TrueBrain: YAPF uses local caches, doesn't it, for caching the track segments? Still, it is multiplayer-compatible? Is this because YAPF ensures that the local caches are always identical on all clients? 22:33:59 <TrueBrain> I believe it does what someone who just went to sleep said: it trashes the cache upon client join 22:34:02 <TrueBrain> (on all clients) 22:34:09 <TrueBrain> therefor the game-state on all clients stay the same 22:34:15 <TrueBrain> of course this tempts to hackish code 22:34:25 <TrueBrain> so rather avoid it where possible :) 22:34:30 <Tekky4347> Ah, thx. 22:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> there was a time where it trashed the cache on every tick, because of multiplayer 22:35:56 <Tekky4347> what? 22:36:18 <Tekky4347> that's the point in having a cache, then, if it is trashed 72 times per second? 22:36:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> it can still be used during the same tick 22:36:45 <Tekky4347> aha 22:37:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> if 2 trains go through similar routes (e.g. big mainline) 22:37:21 *** Xintron [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 22:39:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> especially on big networks that is quite often, because it does not only cache the segments on the route that it actually took, but also all segments that it considered but then discarded 22:39:21 <Tekky4347> The cache I am planning on generating with two of my patches will both be very large :) Therefore, I cannot trash them on every tick... 22:39:41 <Tekky4347> But I guess it should be acceptable to only trash it on every new client join. 22:40:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, you have to either store them, or trash them on client connect... the "every tick" version was just an immediate action, until the "on join" version could be properly implemented 22:44:25 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:45 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 22:47:52 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:50:43 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 22:51:45 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [] 22:52:09 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 22:56:25 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:17:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:27:19 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@ip118.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 23:29:27 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6F58.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 23:30:33 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-61-56.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 23:32:15 *** wolfryu [~Wolfenste@77.250.19.98] has joined #openttd 23:32:20 *** Xintmeister [xintron@blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 23:32:24 *** Netsplit cation.oftc.net <-> arion.oftc.net quits: Rexxie, Progman, Xintron, @orudge, lolman, Nitehawk, mikk36, @Bjarni, dfox, Ammller, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:32:25 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 23:33:18 *** Netsplit over, joins: lolman 23:35:08 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 23:35:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 23:35:19 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41617.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 23:35:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 23:35:43 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84BFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:35:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:39:22 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0274.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 23:41:23 *** Xintmeister is now known as Xintron 23:42:53 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 23:43:59 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:45:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:16 *** Lost-Hope|Thardas [~Admin@89.163.148.100.static.rdns-uclo.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:07 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd