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joined #openttd 10:11:29 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 10:13:22 <Wolf01> TrueBrain, i think he meant to make tar packages working like grfs, maybe for the 32bpp, so we can have 32bpp tarnewgrf (how sounds weird) 10:13:40 <TrueBrain> that is a big no-no 10:13:50 <TrueBrain> .tar is just a container format, for any data in DATE_DIR 10:13:56 <TrueBrain> not related to anything specific 10:14:02 <TrueBrain> DATE_DIR = DATA_DIR 10:14:59 <Wolf01> but if you can replace the sprite of a newgrf, you can always make a grf with the data and dummy sprites and the folder (called like the grf) with the 32bpp in the tar and it should work 10:15:08 <Ammler> TrueBrain: YES 10:15:16 <TrueBrain> Ammler: no need for capitals 10:15:26 <Ammler> :) 10:15:47 <Ammler> sry, caps lock was in 10:16:12 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 10:16:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 10:16:19 <Wolf01> hello Belugas 10:17:11 <Ammler> but TrueBrain, I only tested it with current nightly, do you mean later? 10:17:24 <TrueBrain> Ammler: no, currently nightly is fine 10:18:56 <Ammler> and Its not only with nightly, there are much other GRFs where has this problem, I made nothing.grf to exclude other things... 10:19:17 <Ammler> !s/nightly/nothing.grf/ 10:19:54 <TrueBrain> Ammler: I know nothing about NewGRF, but why I asked is because there was a small glitch in loading stuff of NewGRF with close related names 10:20:48 <Ammler> ok, I say the same problem with dutchcat and canstat 10:21:21 <Ammler> oh man, I can't write, have to go, cu 10:21:33 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-51-194.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:28:16 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 10:32:24 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:15 *** Niki- [~niki@p50909698.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined 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I gave people a week to test the latest backports and nobody found (*or* care to look for) any bugs 11:19:42 <Rubidium> new bugs that is 11:23:25 <Noldo> Rubidium: I have a problem with the overfow safe int template 11:23:54 <Noldo> there are lines in the code that do something like int64 * Money 11:24:26 *** _minime_ [~minime@81.0.223.43] has joined #openttd 11:24:42 <_minime_> hi 11:24:46 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@dev.xythos.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:12 <_minime_> i have a quick question regarding an issue with OTTD's handling of callback 16 (articulated vehicles) 11:25:14 <Rubidium> Noldo: can't you add an overloaded * operator to int64? 11:25:33 <_minime_> in articulated_vehicles.cpp, you have two loops, that seem to limit the callback to at most 10 iterations 11:25:49 <Noldo> and I can do Money operator*(int64,Money), but I can't do it in a general way with the template 11:25:52 <_minime_> that's quite a low number, and for example in the CSDSet it causes problems 11:26:17 <_minime_> it doesn't seem like raising the limit to say 32 (which should be more than enough) shouldn't cause any issues 11:26:18 <Rubidium> a vehicle with more than 10 articulated parts? 11:26:24 <_minime_> yes 11:26:31 <_minime_> like TGV for example 11:26:56 <Noldo> because T operator*(int64,T) matches almost everything and causes ambiguity 11:26:58 <Rubidium> ICE is done using livery overrides 11:26:58 <_minime_> we use double cars, to have them longer than 32 px 11:27:12 <_minime_> or whatever the upper limit is on that 11:27:45 <_minime_> either way, the only time that the loop would run all the iterations is if the vehicle enables the callback and doesn't return 0xFF when it's done 11:27:51 <_minime_> which shouldn't happen too often 11:28:24 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@dev.xythos.cz] has joined #openttd 11:28:27 <_minime_> so there really is no reason to limit it like it is right now (in ttdp there is no such low limit) 11:28:37 <Rubidium> the upper limit is there because we first allocate all vehicles and when that succeeds we start thinking about actually building the thing 11:28:42 <Noldo> and I don't know if I can somehow include related functions to the template so that they would be instantiated only if the template is 11:29:22 <Rubidium> Noldo: neither do I (me no template guru) 11:29:31 <_minime_> so there's more code somewhere else that depends on those two hardcoded constants? 11:29:52 <Rubidium> not really 11:30:03 <Rubidium> but that is the reason why there is a hardcoded constant 11:31:31 <_minime_> what could potentially break if it's increased? i'm concerned about this, since it prevents the set from working correctly in ottd, which is a pity 11:31:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11114 /tags/0.5.3/ (. Makefile network.c openttd.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj): -Release 0.5.3 11:32:48 <_minime_> i suppose if 32 is too much for an upper limit, 16 would do, but the 10 is not enough (CD 680 has 7 two-piece carriages, and is only available as a trainset) 11:32:50 <Rubidium> _minime_: a lot could break (could as in: it could be that 3 planes crash into eachother mid-air in real life) 11:33:29 <Rubidium> well, what's the limit in TTDP. Think that is a "better" limit to change to than just another arbitrary number 11:33:59 <_minime_> i'll see what I can dig up 11:35:00 <_minime_> although it could as well be that it relies on the code to be correct and return the end value when it should 11:37:32 <Rubidium> in that case you would end up with half trains when you've exhausted the vehicle slots 11:42:52 <SmatZ> Rubidium: there are some bugs in 0.5 branch 11:43:22 <Rubidium> I said *new* bugs (i.e. introduced after 0.5.2) 11:44:14 <SmatZ> Rubidium: sorry, I didn't read anything... I just came from lunch 11:45:10 <Rubidium> anyhow, delaying the release by weeks each time somebody finds a "small" bug isn't really the way to go 11:45:24 <Rubidium> and I presume you're talking about the depot flooding issue? 11:45:29 <SmatZ> yes... 11:45:35 *** Arpad96 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:44 <SmatZ> I think this is not a small bug 11:46:34 <SmatZ> also, building while pause in multiplayer, that is not even at FS... but that is not so problematic 11:46:40 <Rubidium> well, remote exploit vs. trains don't get destroyed at the same time in a depot 11:47:30 <SmatZ> acutally, I am not sure if using trains with flooded vehicles won't cause asserts at some places in the code 11:47:30 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-51-2.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:02 <SmatZ> I didn't look into the code, I am preparing for exams, later I will have time :) 11:48:59 *** Arpad96 [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:01:50 <_minime_> Rubidium: from what I can see in the code that deals with for example buing vehicles, it stops only once the callback returns 0xFF or fails 12:02:37 <Rubidium> _minime_: what happens if you build a vehicle of infinite length? 12:03:07 <_minime_> i would say that patch crumbles 12:03:38 <_minime_> i'll experiment with it a little and see if I can get some info from one of the patchdevs 12:03:43 <_minime_> and let you know 12:13:59 *** exe [~dgxczv@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 12:43:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11115 /trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): -Merge: release changes from 0.5. 12:45:12 *** iBitch [~me@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 12:53:57 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB61C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:01:43 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-51-2.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:01:45 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-46.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 13:07:07 *** Markkisen [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:38 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:11:38 *** Markkisen is now known as MarkSlap 13:12:31 *** iBitch [~me@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:57 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:19:04 <_minime_> Rubidium: it is as I suspected 13:19:23 <_minime_> I've succesfuly built a trainset consisting of 32 pieces 13:19:44 <_minime_> however, when I don't end the callback correctly 13:20:22 <_minime_> bad things happen 13:21:30 <_minime_> (that's in ttdpatch) 13:34:12 <Sacro> i want my Sparc :( 13:34:43 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: Screw you guy, I'm going home and smoke pot] 13:35:06 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 13:43:18 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 13:50:38 *** exe [~dgxczv@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:55:57 <elmex> uhm 13:57:23 <elmex> does anyone else experience connection problems with http://www.openttd.org/? 13:57:46 <glx> oh no it's down again 14:01:44 <glx> looks like a dns problem 14:03:21 <SmatZ> why do you think it look like a DNS problem? 14:03:42 <glx> because http://81.171.98.110 partially works 14:04:06 <glx> ie images and links are broken because they use www.openttd.org 14:05:03 <SmatZ> interesting 14:05:31 <SmatZ> 81.171.98.111 is translated www.openttd.org for me 14:05:39 <SmatZ> also git.openttd.org 14:05:39 <Tefad> what the.. who uses absolute links on the originating site 14:06:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:06:26 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:29 <glx> <SmatZ> 81.171.98.111 is translated www.openttd.org for me <-- same for me 14:09:10 <Niki-> the page is down? 14:09:19 <Niki-> i just wanted to update my server to a new version =/ 14:10:41 <glx> Niki-: release is not completed yet 14:10:50 <Niki-> yeah i know 14:10:54 <Niki-> ill probaply take 0.5.2 14:11:02 <Niki-> belugas is still working on newindustries, eh? :P 14:11:05 *** pPACO_BAN is now known as Phazorx 14:11:29 <glx> 0.5.3 should be available in svn, but svn is not reachable for now 14:12:08 <Niki-> 0.5.3 stable? 14:12:15 <Niki-> :() 14:12:25 <Niki-> i guess newindustries is the most important change in 0.6? 14:12:32 <Niki-> thats why it takes so long probaply. 14:12:34 <SmatZ> new* 14:12:57 <glx> in 0.6 will be trams, more newgrf support, 32bpp, ... 14:13:11 <svip> :O It will be like heaven. 14:13:17 <svip> O_O BUT WITH TRAINS 14:13:33 <SmatZ> also vehicle groups, bridges over "everything", now the autoslope... 14:13:35 <svip> I'm afraid to tell you that there will be no trains in heaven when you die. 14:13:47 <SmatZ> I think everything except newindustries is almost done 14:13:53 <SmatZ> and in trunk 14:13:56 <svip> ;o 14:14:09 <Niki-> yeah 14:14:09 <svip> I should work more on my zoning patch. 14:14:12 <Niki-> i tried the nightly 14:14:20 <glx> a lot of newindustries stuff is already in trunk 14:14:23 <Niki-> thats the reason id love to see 0.6 alpha 14:14:26 <Niki-> ah 14:14:31 <SmatZ> :) 14:14:38 <Niki-> how much of the needed code? 14:15:32 <glx> not enough :) 14:15:50 <Niki-> haha 14:15:51 <Niki-> :) 14:16:01 <Niki-> i guess newindustries is loads of stuff to do 14:16:07 <Niki-> i mean it changes many aspects of the game 14:16:24 <SmatZ> yes 14:16:32 <SmatZ> it changes a lot 14:16:52 <Niki-> will it be left out in 0.6 if it takes much longer time? 14:16:58 <Niki-> or will 0.6 just have to wait :) 14:17:21 <DeGhosty> custum industry? 14:17:47 <glx> well if we release 0.6 without newindustries we will probably get a lot of complains ;) 14:18:08 <Niki-> well 14:18:18 <elmex> are there already GRFs that have new industries? 14:18:19 <Niki-> i think that the list of changes is already giant 14:18:24 <Niki-> and 0.6 can live without i 14:18:25 <Niki-> :) 14:19:39 <glx> elmex: yes, ECS, UKRSI and probably some more 14:19:45 <elmex> oh, cool 14:20:10 <glx> newindustries are in ttdpatch for a long time now 14:20:55 <elmex> yea, i never tried ttdpatch 14:23:41 <Niki-> is ttdpatch still in development btw? 14:24:35 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25:07 <glx> yes 14:25:41 <Niki-> hmm 14:25:49 <Niki-> are the ottd hosts still open? 14:26:00 <Niki-> would be cool to update my remote rootservers ottd :) 14:26:04 <glx> servers.openttd.org? 14:26:19 <Niki-> no, hosts for the tarballs 14:26:47 <glx> sf.net 14:27:12 <Niki-> under which name? ttd shown nothing 14:27:19 <glx> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=111717&release_id=512037 14:27:28 <Niki-> except a 3d ttd without any files or progress 14:27:29 <Niki-> ah 14:27:30 <Niki-> thanks 14:27:38 <Niki-> wierd search engine 14:27:39 <glx> the project is called openttd :) 14:29:05 <ln-> Niki-: wierd -> weird 14:30:12 <Niki-> thanks 14:30:28 <Niki-> my english is a bit rusty since iam out of school 14:30:41 <Niki-> ill have to improve it again in college, when i need to read english publications 14:31:53 <glx> Niki-: check your ' key, it seems broken ;) 14:32:24 <Niki-> ''' 14:32:38 <Niki-> iam leaving that kind of signs out when iam talking online :) 14:33:06 <Niki-> okay 14:33:13 <ln-> noneedtousespaceseither 14:33:13 <Niki-> i guess ill have to fetch some food for the next few days 14:33:18 <Niki-> lol 14:33:23 <Niki-> it still has to be readable, i guess 14:33:52 <glx> but ill != i'll 14:34:21 <glx> it indeed should be I'll ;) 14:34:29 <ln-> ill = krank 14:36:29 <Niki-> *gg* 14:36:41 <Niki-> yes I will try to improve :) 14:36:46 <Niki-> see you soon, keep up the good work 14:37:07 <Niki-> ill have to learn c or c++ for university anyways, maybe i can help the game when I have learned it 14:37:10 <Niki-> be good! 14:37:16 *** Niki- [~niki@p50909698.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:42 <peter1138> "anyways" :( 14:45:27 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:46:46 <Noldo> templates make ugly code :/ 14:46:46 <_minime_> Rubidium: ok, i've found the preallocations you mentioned, wrote a patch and put it on flyspray - http://bugs.optenttd.org/task/1231 14:49:21 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 14:49:57 <peter1138> Noldo: now add macros 14:51:05 <peter1138> _minime_, looks good to me 14:51:39 <_minime_> thanks 14:52:20 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:08 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:31 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:53:43 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:54:10 *** th_gergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:55:44 <Noldo> peter1138: :) 14:55:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4CD0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:39 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB50BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:01:32 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB61C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:58 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E1C55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:13:01 <Chris82> hey guys :) 15:13:05 <Chris82> what happened to the website? 15:14:00 <skidd13> Hmmmm, downtime again?! 15:15:18 <Chris82> obviously the mainsite and the forums are not reachable for a few hours already 15:15:35 <Chris82> first I thought quick server reboot, but no server takes this long to reboot ;) 15:15:39 <skidd13> For me it works ATM. 15:15:39 <Chris82> I hope it's no hardware failure 15:16:00 <Chris82> lol yeah just started to work again :D 15:16:04 <Chris82> 2 minutes ago it was still down 15:16:08 <TrueBrain> the forums haven;t been down in ages 15:16:36 <Chris82> hmmm they didn't work for me the last 2 1/2 hours 15:16:41 <Chris82> DNS problem maybe? 15:16:44 <TrueBrain> tt-forums.net?! 15:16:55 <Chris82> forums.openttd.org 15:17:02 <Chris82> and www.openttd.org both didn't work 15:17:17 <Chris82> -s 15:17:17 <TrueBrain> possible the DNS of openttd.org didn't reply correctly, but that even is doubtful... 15:17:22 <TrueBrain> 3 NS servers in 3 countries take care of that 15:17:33 <TrueBrain> the http of openttd.org was offline, an upgrade failed for unknown reasons 15:17:43 <Chris82> hmmm weird then, but I also doubt it was my connection because all other websites worked 15:17:49 <Chris82> ah ic 15:17:53 <TrueBrain> anyway, should work now 15:17:58 <glx> Chris82: forum.openttd.org is a redirection 15:17:59 <Chris82> yep thx :) 15:18:30 <Chris82> glx: ic I am used to enter that URI so I always use it :) 15:18:54 <TrueBrain> so you make the 20 hits on that url ;) 15:19:05 <Chris82> lol obivously :p 15:21:12 <Chris82> can I open a .htm file with a button inside OpenTTD ? 15:21:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11116 /trunk/src/ (fileio.cpp win32.cpp): -Fix (r11106): tar loader was not compiled for WIN32 15:21:42 <TrueBrain> I failed to parse that sentence 15:22:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> Chris82: probably not without a lot of portability issues 15:22:38 <Chris82> hmmm I thought .htm works on pretty much any system 15:23:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but calling the broweser is different everywhere 15:23:22 <Chris82> but you don't need to call a browser? 15:23:36 <Chris82> you can simply open the .htm and the system should know which application to use to open it 15:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> what else would you call? 15:24:06 <Chris82> well just something like FileIO Open ChrisIN-Manual.htm 15:24:18 <mcbane> ottd.org is up 15:24:25 <mcbane> err openttd.org 15:25:22 <Chris82> or is there an easy way to implement a manual inside the game? 15:25:27 <Chris82> that would be preferable of course 15:26:01 <skidd13> Chris82: What do you want to do exactly? A browser inside OpenTTD or what? 15:26:02 <TrueBrain> Chris82: .htm won't work unless you make a htm parser 15:26:06 <TrueBrain> showing txt on the other hand should be simple 15:26:35 <Chris82> skidd13: I want to make a manual for ChrisIN which can be opened from inside OpenTTD 15:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> Chris82: ok, you need to call the "figure out what to call" function, which is still different everywhere 15:28:36 <Chris82> maybe a window like "About OpenTTD" is sufficient 15:28:47 <Chris82> I would just need to make non-scrolling text and add a scrollbar 15:29:19 <Chris82> and then add a link under the question mark "Manual" 15:35:22 <Chris82> hmmm forum.openttd.org has really only 20 hits? 15:35:30 <Chris82> the FORUMS link on openttd.org uses that URI 15:35:58 <TrueBrain> Chris82: 530 hits a month 15:36:06 <TrueBrain> euh, a day 15:36:09 <TrueBrain> 8000 a month 15:38:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11117 /trunk/src/fileio.cpp: -Add: add support for 7z .tar files, which are in the 'old' (deprecated) format 15:44:54 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:46:03 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4CD0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:49:40 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:59:19 <Noldo> why on earth didn't I notice those semi-colons before 16:00:23 <Noldo> Rubidium: looks like I solved it 16:01:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11118 /trunk/src/sound.cpp: -Fix: sample.cat can now be in a tar-file too, how nice! 16:03:31 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E1C55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 16:03:42 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:17:33 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-152-51-2.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:49 <Noldo> Rubidium: do you want << to have overflow protection? 16:33:55 *** esco [~pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 16:34:48 <esco> hi 16:45:30 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 16:45:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-144-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:29:51 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C4DF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:33:58 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:41 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:00 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 17:46:16 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 17:51:29 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 18:14:18 *** th_gergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:48 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:15:02 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 18:34:00 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F3A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:12 <Sacro> http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/SteelIXB/158/Image1.png *drools all over his keyboard* 18:37:48 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F3E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:41 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 18:42:39 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:25 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CAD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:13 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F3A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:58 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:11 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:00:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 19:56:51 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F1B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:38 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0CAD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:39 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:00:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:02:11 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 20:02:11 <Bjarni> !logs 20:02:55 <Bjarni> why are you guys idling? 20:03:31 <Rubidium> cause they're waiting till you finished the release ;) 20:03:40 <Bjarni> huh 20:03:43 <Bjarni> what release? 20:03:55 <Rubidium> OSX 11 20:04:02 <Bjarni> oh 20:04:05 <Bjarni> well 20:04:19 <Bjarni> it will done in 2 to 3 weeks 20:04:34 <Bjarni> or maybe when duke nudem forever is done 20:05:21 <Rubidium> most of the 0.5.3 binaries are waiting for OSX binaries 20:05:46 <Bjarni> you released 0.5.3? 20:06:43 <Bjarni> no 20:06:48 <Bjarni> doesn't look like it 20:07:26 <Rubidium> well, I did, it's only on hold for OSX binaries 20:08:01 <Bjarni> you know.... I might react faster if something happened... something like somebody told me this ;) 20:08:05 <blathijs> hey, how about debian binaries then? 20:08:52 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:07 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:09 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:09:32 <Phazorx> got a question about height maps 20:10:14 <Phazorx> does the engine detects min/max brightness and then spans N levels across or black and whie are min/max ? 20:10:50 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:10:57 <glx> Phazorx: try it :) 20:11:04 <Phazorx> i did 20:11:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> i assume the latter... 20:11:09 <Phazorx> it kinda inconlusive 20:11:21 <Phazorx> i see different results ih i half the brightness 20:11:33 <Phazorx> but not what i expected 20:11:44 <glx> if it's an 8bpp image, it uses palette order 20:11:46 <Phazorx> perhaps max is set to like 128/256 ? 20:12:07 <Phazorx> it is 8bpp grayscale png 20:12:11 <Bjarni> <Phazorx> it kinda inconlusive <-- then you tested it with the wrong image :P 20:12:18 <Phazorx> perhaps 20:12:24 <Phazorx> that's why i came here with the question 20:12:31 <glx> so it has a palette and uses the palette order 20:12:40 <Phazorx> can i expect more enlightment than just " try it till you get what you want" ? 20:13:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> what is unclear about "palette order"? 20:13:39 <Phazorx> say palette has 60 shades of gray 20:13:48 <Phazorx> with max being 40% gray 20:13:59 <Phazorx> will that be set as height max or as height 40% of max ? 20:14:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> 1st colour, 2nd colour, 3rd colour... 20:14:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> no matter what shade of grey they have 20:14:30 <Phazorx> it doesnt act like that i can see it mapping shades into more orders than that 20:14:59 <Phazorx> and it doesnt cap out on 15th color 20:17:52 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C4DF.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:21:02 *** th_gergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:21:43 <Rubidium> *when* your heightmap has a palette with 16 entries it uses those as heightlevels, in all other cases the image is converted to grayscale and then the gray value is divide by 16 and floored 20:22:17 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D692.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:05 *** thgergo_ [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:26:02 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F1B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:33 *** th_gergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:41 *** G_ [~njones@202.154.154.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:42 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0FD3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:49 <Wolf01> 'night 20:40:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:44:28 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D692.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:09 *** Bjarni changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices 20:58:51 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:59:57 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 21:00:56 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:23 *** You're now known as SCpomb 21:04:06 *** Peakki [antti@cs78151004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 21:11:35 *** G [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 21:13:37 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Quit: sleep] 21:16:44 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:06 *** You're now known as SpComb 21:36:18 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:43:17 <TrueBrain> General Notice: trac is down for a moment; might or might not be back any time soon 21:44:31 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 21:46:38 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47:53 <Phazorx> thanks Rubidium 21:49:17 <ln-> bjarni: question, in case you happen to know: when an app crashes, the "application blablabla quit unexpectedly" dialog will appear. can this dialog be disabled for a certain application, and/or can it be made to restart the app automatically, without asking anything? 21:49:37 *** th_gergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:49:42 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-184-203.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:49:46 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-184-203.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 21:52:33 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:52:41 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #openttd [] 21:53:39 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 21:56:19 <Phazorx> can a play be kicjed by number from console? 21:56:53 *** thgergo_ [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:57:01 <glx> yes 21:57:06 <Phazorx> Client #507 name: 'thgergo' status: 'loading map' frame-lag: 14651 company: 1 21:57:14 <Phazorx> notice the framelag 21:57:24 <Phazorx> is that kick 507 then ? 21:58:14 <glx> hey he is here, so maybe ask him why he has a big lag 21:58:15 <Phazorx> weee 21:58:19 <Phazorx> reconnect plz 21:58:23 <Phazorx> oops mt 21:58:33 <Phazorx> i am talking to him in other chan 21:58:38 <Phazorx> he is quite aware of situation 21:58:43 <Phazorx> but he lost connection 21:58:50 <Phazorx> and server got stuck somehow 22:00:07 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:12:19 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB50BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 22:17:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8204D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:18 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B815E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:19:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:24:21 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:14 <Greyscale> OTTD requires cliff geographhy 22:31:24 <Greyscale> like, not a totally smooth edge 22:31:29 <Greyscale> like, cliffy bits 22:44:09 <Phazorx> ottd situated in world with no moon 22:44:14 <Phazorx> hence no tides, no cliffs 22:46:55 <DeGhosty> lol 22:48:47 <TrueBrain> amazing how much more clear your movies get when you have a 720p TV and movie :) 22:48:48 <TrueBrain> lalala 22:50:45 <Phazorx> try projector TrueBrain 22:50:53 <TrueBrain> why? 22:51:23 <Phazorx> same clarity adjustable size and probably cheaper? 22:51:42 <TrueBrain> why? 22:51:58 <Phazorx> just happen to be that these are perks of that technology? 22:52:10 <TrueBrain> why? 22:52:14 <TrueBrain> (am I annoying already?:)) 22:52:15 <Phazorx> see above 22:52:27 <DeGhosty> projectors are nto clearer 22:52:42 *** th_gergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E24.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 22:52:53 <Phazorx> DeGhosty: pne day when you get older and wiser i'll show you my setup :) 22:53:30 <TrueBrain> okay, please stop comparing eachothers penis... 22:53:43 <Phazorx> heh 22:54:01 <Phazorx> rally tho, i kinda rejected idea of fixed tv of any kind few years ago 22:54:13 <Phazorx> and vent totaly with projectors for movies 22:54:16 <Phazorx> *went 22:54:19 <TrueBrain> I love TVs more :) 22:54:24 <TrueBrain> and I love my HR TV even more :) 22:54:35 <TrueBrain> but then again, I don't have room for any projector :p 22:55:19 <Phazorx> my 1st one was situated in 5x3 meters room, throwing 120" image across short side 22:55:47 <TrueBrain> now that's ugly! :) 23:04:13 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15:18 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:07 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:32:12 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 23:41:16 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:56 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 23:43:11 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 23:44:04 <TrueBrain> darn, look at the time! 23:44:05 <TrueBrain> night all 23:45:02 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0FD3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:51:23 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:56:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-144-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving]