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00:02:25 <LeviathNL> nice: http://vectormagic.stanford.edu/vctr/vctr_flex?p=v&k=2ioQRk9FQteNyrKFTvU0OTB5BV8XF2MN&v=59267 00:07:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 00:07:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 00:13:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> that page is empty here... 00:13:10 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-68-26.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:09 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, you don't have to answer me, just leave... 00:16:55 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 00:19:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:57 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:38:05 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40:04 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B60E43.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:08 *** Sacro` [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:50:43 <Sacro`> grr 00:51:25 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-65-25.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 00:52:30 <Ammler> Huhu? 00:56:32 *** John [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:56:47 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:04:08 <Sacro`> hmmm 01:04:17 <Sacro`> IQ of 144, not bad 01:04:22 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 01:31:26 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:33:10 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-181-253.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:37:44 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B0435FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:37:56 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76047.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:39:08 <huma> 144? 01:52:07 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7170.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 01:58:33 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:05:56 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-65-25.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:07 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-155.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:17:37 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176117198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 02:24:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> 3^2*2^4 02:30:18 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-181-253.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:44:41 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 02:44:50 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:50:37 <huma> 12^2 02:52:26 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:57:41 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:06:10 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:10:46 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180066022.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:58 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387CD63.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:07:26 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C85A.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:42:25 *** nairan_wokr [~Maui_key@p5498D82A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:42:26 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498E432.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:10:00 *** BigBB_ [~BigBB@p5B04121B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:10:21 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-65-25.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 05:16:01 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B0435FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:23:15 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-65-25.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:53 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:42:07 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:34 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04121B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:48:06 *** BigBB_ [~BigBB@p5B04121B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: BigBB_] 07:03:35 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-000-232.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:04:02 <Tefad> are catchment areas exact? 07:05:59 <Tefad> er, resources aren't unlimited now? 07:06:03 * Tefad blinks 07:09:31 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-084-058-026-080.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:45 * Rubidium assumes Tefad used PBI 07:12:12 *** Hendikins|Work is now known as Hendikins 07:14:27 *** Phazorx [PACO@74.112.10.132] has joined #openttd 07:16:54 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23:15 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 07:38:49 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Tampering with LAN] 07:42:18 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@ppp121-44-47-99.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:00:43 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:05:55 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:17:41 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:23 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:21:47 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:26:38 *** ana30 [~ana30@ANantes-257-1-29-208.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:27:19 *** ana30 [~ana30@ANantes-257-1-29-208.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 08:31:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 08:32:15 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has joined #openttd 08:32:17 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has left #openttd [] 08:54:31 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:54:31 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04:18 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:08:08 *** dihedral|temporarily_unavailab is now known as dihedral|work 09:08:42 <dihedral|work> WAKEUP :-P 09:09:22 <TrueBrain> only if you stop putting your personal state at the end of your name... very annoying 09:09:34 <TrueBrain> normal people use /away for it 09:09:44 <Celestar> :) 09:09:55 <TrueBrain> hi Celestar :) 09:09:59 <Celestar> hi TrueBrain 09:10:03 <Celestar> how's life? 09:10:14 <TrueBrain> good good :) Class in a few minutes 09:10:19 <TrueBrain> you? 09:10:19 <Celestar> nice. 09:10:25 <Celestar> allright on my side 09:10:30 <Celestar> how do I get myself off the mailing list? 09:10:32 <TrueBrain> it is an interesting class, so I don't mind :) 09:10:36 <Celestar> what class? 09:10:40 <TrueBrain> Celestar: it tells you at the end of each email ;) 09:10:43 <TrueBrain> Computer Architecture 09:10:45 <Celestar> oh :) 09:11:03 <TrueBrain> but spam should be reduced big-time 09:12:18 <Celestar> when? :) 09:12:24 * Celestar stops unsubscribing 09:12:32 <TrueBrain> yesterday I did the first step, today the second 09:13:25 <Celestar> what did you do? 09:13:35 <TrueBrain> slapped mailman as hard as possible :p 09:13:42 <TrueBrain> it now check Envelope Sender instead of Sender 09:13:54 <TrueBrain> and I changed the Envelope Sender of the maillist to something... more hidden :) 09:17:23 *** dihedral|work is now known as dihedral|agreesWithTB 09:17:26 *** dihedral|agreesWithTB is now known as dihedral 09:17:27 <dihedral> :-) 09:18:15 <ln-> let's re-paste this now that Celestar is here... 09:18:17 <ln-> http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Boeing_757-200-Airline_Thomsonfly_Aviation_Video-8457.html 09:18:46 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-253-10.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 09:21:21 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 09:47:05 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-253-10.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:51:09 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-253-10.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 09:52:45 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0088.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:57:49 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 10:08:19 <ln-> Celestar: someone said the smoke would be photoshopped, but it isn't, right? 10:10:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B816EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81A0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:13:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:14:05 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:22:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:05 <Celestar> er sec 10:37:13 <ln-> (seeing photoshopped things everywhere is a mental problem) 10:40:41 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-253-10.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:15 <dihedral> lol @ ln- 10:41:36 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-94-30.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:50:49 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0088.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 10:56:37 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:58:15 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-253-10.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 11:03:47 <huma> ln-: http://xkcd.com/331/ 11:04:34 <ln-> hah 11:34:17 *** pecisk [~pecisk@78.84.139.234] has joined #openttd 11:38:25 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:40:58 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:46:04 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-253-10.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:52:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D5EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:56:16 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:57:30 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:01:11 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-235-77.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:09:02 *** bluebear___ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37aed.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:09:06 *** bluebear___ is now known as bluebear 12:16:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> <TrueBrain> good good :) Class in a few minutes <- err, we have holiday here... 12:22:03 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc12.host26.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:27:25 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:33:10 <TrueBrain> and how should I care bout that? 12:34:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes. 12:34:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> :P 12:34:42 <TrueBrain> the question was: HOW should I care about that, so 'yes' is an invalid answer ;) 12:34:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> i know ;) 12:34:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> that was on purpose ;) 12:35:23 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 12:39:57 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc12.host26.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:41:24 *** RamboRonny [~magic.pow@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:41:35 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176117198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:40 *** bluebear___ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db304e9.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:59:51 *** SpBot [terom@marttila.de] has joined #openttd 13:01:36 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37aed.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:38 *** bluebear___ is now known as bluebear 13:07:26 <huma> hehe, trams are cute :) 13:08:36 <TrueBrain> http://81.171.98.110:8084/ <- and again twice as fast :) Now under the 0.5ms to generate the page :) 13:09:47 *** lili26 [~lili26@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #openttd 13:11:00 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11:45 <huma> TrueBrain: what's that? 13:11:57 <TrueBrain> a website :) 13:12:27 <huma> what for? :) 13:12:36 <huma> browsing the land? :) 13:13:05 <TrueBrain> a webbased sprite-engine 13:13:16 <huma> what language? 13:13:25 <TrueBrain> ? 13:14:04 <huma> perl, php, java? 13:14:14 <TrueBrain> stackless python 13:14:18 <TrueBrain> direct webserver integration 13:14:18 <huma> ah.. 13:14:31 <huma> fastcgi? 13:14:50 <TrueBrain> .... 13:14:51 <TrueBrain> no 13:14:51 <TrueBrain> direct webserver integration 13:15:43 <huma> yea, pretty fast 13:18:13 <hylje> so you took on the idea of stackless ottd ;P 13:18:32 <TrueBrain> hylje: lol, not really :) 13:18:45 <hylje> hehe 13:18:47 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:18:58 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 13:22:57 <TrueBrain> IE sucks 13:23:05 <TrueBrain> my website fails on it, because it caches AJAX replies... 13:23:36 <huma> firefox is doing fine here 13:23:48 <huma> but.. i'd like some arctic :) 13:24:12 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 13:26:24 <TrueBrain> so, there, IE fixed :) 13:26:34 <TrueBrain> huma: I personally first want a moving object ;) 13:27:14 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:24 <huma> so it's a proof of concept? 13:27:49 <TrueBrain> yup 13:28:29 <Ammler> TrueBrain: which browser do you use? 13:28:51 <Ammler> I have some glitches while moving the map with FF 13:29:22 <TrueBrain> Ammler: don't move _too_ fast :p 13:29:28 <hylje> yes, it goes out of sync after moving a bit too fast 13:29:38 <TrueBrain> if the server can't keep up with you, and a request is lost 13:29:42 <TrueBrain> your map will be out of sync :) 13:29:45 <TrueBrain> this will be fixed later 13:30:58 <Ammler> I am not sure about Ajax, but do you know Firebug? 13:32:11 <TrueBrain> yeah, why? 13:32:32 <Ammler> it shows many errors... 13:32:41 <TrueBrain> XHTML errors, I am sure 13:34:17 <Ammler> oh, ok, I get the errors only if I desync, :) nice to have that now on weg too. 13:34:22 *** lili26 [~lili26@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 13:34:22 <Ammler> web 13:34:34 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178242102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:34:39 <TrueBrain> what kind of errors? 13:34:54 <TrueBrain> (for me it is impossible to cause a desync, my connection is a bit too fast ;)) 13:35:04 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@pc12.host26.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 13:35:37 <LordAzamath> hello! 13:35:51 <TrueBrain> hi LordAzamath 13:38:32 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 13:38:55 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:41:18 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:41:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:43:26 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:27 <huma> tram breaks like a bus :) 13:45:28 <huma> hehe 13:45:59 <huma> depot is ugly though.. 13:46:25 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:50:36 <Sacro> rwar 13:50:41 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:52:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:55:48 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 13:58:16 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:45 *** bluebear___ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db307f8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:04:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:05:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:21 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-181-253.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:07:36 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db304e9.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:07:47 *** bluebear___ is now known as bluebear 14:08:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:12:36 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:58 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:13:22 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 14:14:35 *** egladil [~egladil@c-f6ebe455.021-166-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 14:19:22 *** ln-- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 14:19:38 *** ln- [~lauri@fedora.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:25:44 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178242102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: #idlerpg] 14:27:01 *** BiA|pavel-css [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:31:17 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@pc12.host26.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 14:39:51 <TrueBrain> http://81.171.98.110:8084/ <- I can even draw roads :) 14:40:06 <huma> finally 14:40:10 <huma> and arctic? 14:40:17 <TrueBrain> not a chance 14:40:40 <dihedral> how about building a full web ottd :-D 14:40:45 <TrueBrain> dihedral: feel free! 14:40:55 <dihedral> i do feel free 14:41:01 <huma> ok, where's the source anyway? 14:41:31 <TrueBrain> huma: no GPL :) 14:41:57 <huma> bsd is even better :) 14:42:01 <huma> url? 14:42:05 <TrueBrain> no open-source :p 14:42:21 <dihedral> aw - that's cute 14:42:33 <dihedral> TB's going commercial :-D 14:42:41 <TrueBrain> :) Something has to pay the bills :p 14:42:42 <dihedral> huma, offerhim something shiny 14:43:04 <SpComb> it cracks at 62x70 14:43:21 <SpComb> height level's messed up and random roads 14:43:24 <huma> i got a shiny sea shell :) 14:43:41 <TrueBrain> foundations => sea :) 14:43:45 <SpComb> ok, it does it fairly often 14:43:51 <TrueBrain> SpComb: don't click too fast ;) 14:43:57 <TrueBrain> it doesn't protect that yet 14:44:08 <huma> vapoware :) 14:44:12 <TrueBrain> oh, server crashed ;) 14:44:20 * SpComb clicks as fast as he can 14:44:27 <huma> haha 14:44:33 <huma> directed access :) 14:44:43 <SpComb> now it's just looping the same piece of terrain over and over 14:44:44 <huma> don't plug it to your brain :) 14:45:17 <SpComb> TrueBrain: nor is it mouse-draggable 14:45:24 <TrueBrain> SpComb: boo-hoo 14:45:28 <SpComb> indeed 14:46:31 <TrueBrain> now let's see if we can make a bus moving ;) 14:47:11 <dihedral> just make is static and read save games :_D 14:48:33 <huma> eek, http://imagebin.org/11412 14:49:08 <TrueBrain> huma: don't click too fast ;) 14:50:34 <SpComb> crash'd 14:50:53 <TrueBrain> no, stopped 14:51:00 <SpComb> and depending on how you define "too fast", it happens even if you don't 14:51:00 <huma> what's you server set up? 14:51:01 <TrueBrain> I cna't design and show you guys both at the same time :) 14:51:14 <SpComb> huma: last time I looked, it was a python script 14:51:20 <TrueBrain> it still is 14:51:37 <huma> he doesn't want to show the code :( 14:52:18 <dihedral> huma: let him, if it makes hem feel like something special 14:55:30 <huma> . 14:56:03 <TrueBrain> and I do feel special :) 14:56:25 <TrueBrain> I have a FLYING BUS! :p 14:56:51 <SpComb> it's already better than normal OpenTTD 14:57:07 <dihedral> lol 15:01:01 *** Pymmot [~sdssd@1-1-4-15a.far.sth.bostream.se] has joined #openttd 15:03:41 *** BiA|pavel-css [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:07 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:48 <huma> you don't have arctic.. it's useless without it 15:07:54 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:08:50 *** bluebear___ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db304f3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:14:36 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db307f8.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:48 *** bluebear___ is now known as bluebear 15:23:15 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:26:41 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:29:29 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:11 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-181-253.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:42:50 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 15:45:31 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:59:50 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:04 *** TheMask97 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:28 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:31 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:35 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:40 * orudge spies a sharp drop in AMS-IX traffic 16:05:42 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:05:59 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:07:18 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv25.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:08:01 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:46 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81A0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:36 *** _karma [makelak@assari.cc.tut.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:13:38 *** _karma [makelak@assari.cc.tut.fi] has joined #openttd 16:14:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8016A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:14:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:15:14 *** bluebear___ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37ee5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:16:47 *** bluebear____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db33d3c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:17:07 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:17:51 *** Pymmot [~sdssd@1-1-4-15a.far.sth.bostream.se] has quit [] 16:21:36 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db304f3.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:48 *** bluebear____ is now known as bluebear 16:22:06 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:34 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:23:21 *** bluebear___ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37ee5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:36 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:31:07 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178226132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:16 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-161-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7752D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:32:51 <ln--> Eddi|zuHause: did you say à used to be abbreviated sz? 16:32:58 <ln--> well, anti-abbreviated. 16:37:13 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-124-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:26 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:37:30 <ln--> probably 16:38:13 * orudge grumbles somewhat 16:38:16 <orudge> eweka still down >:( 16:39:59 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:40:46 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:42:01 <Eddi|zuHause> ln--: not usually, but in certain occasions 16:44:09 <mikk36> heh 16:44:16 <mikk36> nice bug-like thing :) 16:44:31 <mikk36> http://mikk36.eu/web/random_shit/bugzor.png 16:45:35 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 16:45:35 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 16:45:46 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:45:47 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 16:45:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 16:46:09 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 16:46:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 16:47:35 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:48:00 <yorick> what happened to the master server? 16:48:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host186-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:49:17 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 16:49:23 <yorick> serverlist was almost empty 16:49:28 <glx> retry now :) 16:49:59 <yorick> still less than useual 16:51:19 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:51:20 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 16:53:59 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-160-233.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:53 <Belugas> ho... an incoming Maedhros :) 16:56:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host186-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:54 <Maedhros> hehe 16:58:57 <Maedhros> hey Belugas 17:08:29 <Belugas> hello Maedhros :) 17:08:55 <Belugas> http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/magic_number_station_naming.diff <--- does the naming of SN_x sounds good? 17:09:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host186-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:11:03 <Maedhros> yeah, although maybe StationType -> ST would be clearer? (unless that already exists, of course :) 17:12:20 <Belugas> i'm pretty sure it does, but... ok, i'll make them a little more self-explanatory 17:12:48 * Belugas noticed the magic number whle working with DaleStan earlier today 17:13:51 <Maedhros> don't try too hard - it's pretty clear already :) 17:17:08 *** Arpad [~Gali@bravo839.server4you.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:17:59 * Maedhros waits impatiently for some of his calculations to finish 17:18:22 <Maedhros> although two have been going since friday, so i'm not holding out much hope for them ^_^ 17:18:41 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:18 *** BiA|pavel-css [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 17:19:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host186-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host186-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:20:53 <Belugas> ? decrypting some national security files ? ;) 17:21:23 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178226132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: #idlerpg] 17:21:53 <Maedhros> haha, no, molecular modelling :) 17:23:21 *** bluebear____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37b09.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:24:26 <Belugas> ho... just that ;) 17:24:47 <Belugas> patch refreshed 17:25:03 <Belugas> cannot get more explanatory than this ^_^ 17:25:04 <Wolf01> :O i'm connected i'm connected!!!! 17:25:09 <Wolf01> ehm.. hello 17:25:22 <Belugas> hello live-Wolf01 :) 17:25:40 <Wolf01> i've serious dsl problems 17:25:58 <Wolf01> and oftc took 15 minutes to connect 17:26:02 <Wolf01> :P 17:26:36 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:54 <Belugas> i was disconnected myself for close the same amount of time 17:27:18 <Belugas> frustrating... 17:28:36 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db33d3c.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:48 *** bluebear____ is now known as bluebear 17:29:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:33:08 <Wolf01> enough, specially when this happen every night 17:37:32 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:37:33 *** blathijs_ [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 17:38:42 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489F26B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:16 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:08 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:01 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:11 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|Work 17:46:17 <BiA|pavel-css> !wiki 17:46:22 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:26 <BiA|pavel-css> wiki 17:46:38 <BiA|pavel-css> google :/ 17:46:41 <Maedhros> /topic ? 17:46:41 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:41 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:16 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489F26B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:34 <Maedhros> huh. the forums have fallen off the internet again 17:51:00 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc12.host26.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:52:00 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 17:52:47 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 17:52:50 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 17:52:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:53:13 <Maedhros> welcome back :) 17:54:29 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 17:54:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 17:54:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:55:36 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:56:16 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 17:57:08 <Belugas> i feel dizzy my all those connect/reconnections :S 17:57:15 <Belugas> -m+b 17:57:22 *** Barry [~chatzilla@bg1078138.hum.uva.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:45 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4416.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:02 <skidd13> Hi 18:00:57 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 18:02:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11363 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Remove some magical numbers 18:02:35 <hylje> nooooes my magic ;_; 18:03:33 <BigBB> Belugas, if you want to remove magic numbers, get FS1383 . Only a few lines :D 18:03:56 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:07 <skidd13> BigBB: the patch is nice, but damned huge 18:04:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8016A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:04:55 <BigBB> I know, but I thought it's better to find all and don't make a half work ;( 18:05:54 <skidd13> I read about 5 min. It's not complicated, but on such patches you have to care about things more cause your mind tends to overread things. ;) 18:05:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:05:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:06:27 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:06:30 <Belugas> noted, BigBB 18:06:47 <Belugas> and yes, it is on my list :) 18:07:13 <BigBB> Hehe :) 18:07:20 <Belugas> problem, i'm at work, with very limited means of deving 18:07:47 <Belugas> i can work on my own stuff, but i cannot patch (for whatever the reason) nor compile 18:08:03 <Belugas> and i cannot drink coffee since my mug is empty 18:08:06 <Belugas> damned... 18:08:39 <skidd13> Advice your secretary to fill it up :D 18:09:08 <dihedral> :-) 18:16:21 <Ailure> http://www.tt-forums.net/download.php?id=80757 18:16:25 <Ailure> I mess around too much when bored 18:17:10 <dihedral> i bet there is nothing else to those tracks :-) 18:17:21 <Ailure> You're right 18:17:21 <Ailure> heh 18:17:31 <Ailure> it wasn't even a real game 18:17:38 <Ailure> someone said doubledecker bridge on the forums 18:17:43 <Ailure> and I just had to try it out 18:18:02 * Belugas has a new fresh and hot big mug of smelly coffee 18:18:03 <Ailure> even if that's technically not really a bridge below, but a "landbridge" 18:19:32 <skidd13> Belugas: a cup of good tea does wonders too (and it doesn't agitate the drinker so much ;) ) 18:19:32 <dihedral> bridge over bridge would be cool 18:19:50 <dihedral> skidd13: pgTips over here :-) 18:19:59 <dihedral> with a drop of milk 18:20:06 <skidd13> bah 18:20:36 <Belugas> tried, reverted to coffee. but thanks for advice 18:21:09 <skidd13> I'm a pourist. (The only thing that gets into my tea/coffee is a bit of brown suggar) 18:22:10 <Belugas> Brown sugar! 18:22:12 <BigBB> tea, ice tea, Long Island Iced Tea 18:22:22 <Belugas> How can you taste so good? 18:22:30 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has joined #openttd 18:23:56 <Prof_Frink> PG Tips? Yorkshire Tea! 18:24:59 <skidd13> Earl Grey from Ronefeldt (IIRC). Quite simple but tasty 18:26:51 <Prof_Frink> Earl Grey is meh 18:28:23 <dihedral> Prof_Frink: i do prefer fair trade tea 18:28:33 <dihedral> makes even PG Tips taste like soap 18:29:11 *** bluebear____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37ee5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 18:32:48 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest109 18:32:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-236-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:35:36 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db37b09.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:36:55 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 18:37:38 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest111 18:37:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host221-15-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:38:38 *** Guest109 [~wolf01@host186-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:41:08 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest113 18:41:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host252-181-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:43:53 *** Guest111 [~wolf01@host213-236-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:47:13 *** Guest113 [~wolf01@host221-15-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11364 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r11363): compilation broken 18:59:08 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489F26B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:17 <BiA|pavel-css> i ma just compiling 11364 :P 19:08:02 <dihedral> TrueBrain: how likely would it be that the track sharing patch of yours could become included (as an optional patch setting)...? 19:08:58 <Belugas> didn't he said never? 19:09:13 <dihedral> i cannot remember... :-S 19:10:00 <Belugas> i think i do ^_^ 19:10:04 <Rubidium> dihedral: check the logs, but you'll find what Belugas said 19:10:21 <dihedral> k 19:13:37 <Ammler> :) 19:14:07 <dihedral> just slap me next time i ask something that i have already asked :-P 19:14:34 <dihedral> and before you start slapping me now - let me emphasis "next time"... 19:15:05 <Belugas> don't worry, dihedral, it is getting an habit to repeat ourselves ;) 19:15:35 <dihedral> i hope that means that others ask the same questions too :-) 19:16:09 <yorick> like: "when will 0.6.0 be done?", "when it's done!" 19:16:33 <dihedral> oh - i thought a month after that.... 19:17:34 <yorick> you really LIKE to get slapped? 19:18:15 <dihedral> :-P 19:18:19 <dihedral> i know 19:18:24 <dihedral> sometimes i just ask for it 19:18:31 * yorick pops down the farm, grabs a Shetland Pony and slaps dihedral with it! 19:18:43 <yorick> "[20:14] <dihedral> just slap me next time i ask something that i have already asked :-P" 19:19:06 <dihedral> i am not quite sure what of my previous lines you consider a question.... 19:19:16 <dihedral> *to be a 19:19:17 <yorick> "[20:16] <dihedral> oh - i thought a month after that...." 19:19:28 <dihedral> and where is that a question? 19:19:34 <yorick> you asked to get slapped 19:19:41 <dihedral> that is a statement 19:19:42 <yorick> and you asked that before :P 19:19:54 <dihedral> 20:19 < dihedral> that is a statement 19:20:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4416.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:20:47 <dihedral> clearly can be rocognized by the missing questionmark at the end of the line... 19:21:12 <yorick> you're asking again... :-) 19:21:23 * dihedral slaps yorick 19:22:01 <dihedral> dots (.) are not questionmarks (?) 19:22:43 <yorick> you don't want it to look as if you want to be slapped 19:23:02 <Barry> Goodevening 19:23:17 <dihedral> discussion breaker :-P 19:23:29 <huma> ??? 19:23:42 <Barry> Does anybody here has Google Earth on his computer and can you give me a hand with it? 19:23:53 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:11 <yorick> just use google maps 19:24:14 <huma> mine doesn't work with current fglrx drivers 19:24:31 <yorick> use your scroll weel(middle mouse button) for zooming 19:25:03 <Barry> Yorick I need to download 2 dem cells for a heightmap but can't install GE here :-( 19:25:32 <yorick> ah 19:25:38 <yorick> I don't have it either 19:29:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-211-33.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:29:59 <yorick> silence(breaker) 19:30:43 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:26 <yorick> DorpsGek quit? 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:P 19:41:20 <Rubidium> huma: who cares? 19:41:30 <huma> search for "mac or pc" 19:41:41 <Rubidium> and then? 19:41:53 <Rubidium> why choose between OSes with broken firewalls? 19:41:59 <huma> Rubidium: you do obviously :) 19:42:02 <BiA|pavel-css> Add Video to QuickList 19:42:02 <BiA|pavel-css> 19:42:02 <BiA|pavel-css> "Mac or PC" Rap Music Video - Mac vs PC 19:42:08 <huma> yo! 19:42:11 <BiA|pavel-css> okay 19:44:20 * Maedhros can't help but think this is violating the spirit of the rule, if not the words 19:45:14 <BiA|pavel-css> spirit of rule :o) 19:46:19 <huma> haha 19:46:23 <huma> it's a good one :) 19:46:52 <huma> south park version is the best, i think 19:47:21 <dihedral> good job TB was not paying attention 19:47:39 *** TrueBrain [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 19:47:41 <Prof_Frink> huma: I don't think linkpot links are banned ;) 19:48:04 <huma> TB is busy coding 19:48:14 <huma> i wouldn't bother him 19:48:50 <huma> linkpot? 19:48:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84137.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:06 <Prof_Frink> Like tinyurl, but with real words 19:49:14 <huma> ah 19:49:20 <Prof_Frink> say, linkpot.net/beard 19:49:20 <huma> yea, checking now 19:49:53 <huma> oh, it has nsfw note :) 19:49:55 <huma> neat 19:50:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8371C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:50:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:51:27 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 19:51:42 *** Belugas [belugas@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 19:51:57 <huma> http://linkpot.net/honeycomb/ 19:52:18 <BiA|pavel-css> w00t 19:52:32 <huma> oh, it's python based 19:52:35 <huma> django 19:53:03 <Prof_Frink> Well yes, it's hashlugradio-based 19:53:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:53:54 <BiA|pavel-css> lol its cool! :D 19:54:44 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@91.84.73.129] has joined #openttd 19:54:45 <BiA|pavel-css> huma: see http://linkpot.net/deemed/ too ;) 19:56:14 <Maedhros> yeah. we're not stupid, you know... 19:57:14 *** dihedral_ [~dihedral@dslb-084-057-247-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:17 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:5ae3:8196:1::1] has joined #openttd 19:59:32 *** Netsplit cation.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: dihedral, huma, mikk36, helb, _Ben_, guru3, Nitehawk, DJ_Mirage 19:59:40 *** dihedral_ is now known as dihedral 20:01:44 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:49 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has joined #openttd 20:01:49 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:02:03 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 20:03:12 <huma> oops 20:03:50 <BiA|pavel-css> whats was that? 20:04:00 <Ammler> !playercount 20:04:11 <Ammler> Àh, sorry :) 20:04:12 <BiA|pavel-css> not openttdcoop ;) 20:05:11 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-109-253.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:14 *** egladil_ibook [~egladil@c-f6ebe455.021-166-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:06:03 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 20:06:36 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176121010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:09:21 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176117198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:06 *** egladil [~egladil@c-f6ebe455.021-166-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:16 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8371C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:49 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B830F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:14:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:15:01 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:03 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 20:18:49 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 20:20:36 <yorick> hmm... many quits and joins 20:21:04 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 20:21:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 20:21:48 *** bluebear____ is now known as bluebear 20:22:06 *** BiA|pavel-css [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 20:25:05 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much (quote)] 20:40:50 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc12.host26.starman.ee] has left #openttd [] 20:40:51 *** RamboRonny [~magic.pow@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:56 *** NW|Aerandir [~magic.pow@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:44:58 *** Alkaven` [Alkaven@S01060017312ee6be.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:39 <Alkaven`> Anyone here? 20:45:57 *** Alkaven` is now known as Galamantyl 20:46:05 <dihedral> nope 20:46:15 * huma hides 20:46:30 <Galamantyl> I'm looking for a challenging server to play on. One that supports hard map settings and competition. 20:46:35 <Galamantyl> I can't seem to find one. 20:46:41 <dihedral> pikebu 20:46:46 <huma> :) 20:47:38 * dihedral holds his hands in front of his eyes again 20:47:49 <dihedral> you can't see me 20:47:58 <Galamantyl> ... 20:48:03 <huma> dihedral: hey, where did you go? 20:48:37 <huma> i think i've seen it somewhere.. 20:48:37 <LeviathNL> I have a little question about linux, I want to make a link in /usr/bin/ to ~/openttd/bin/openttd. But somehow when I run it complains about missing grf's (also 2ccmap.grf etc) and lang-files. Can anybody help me? 20:48:45 <dihedral> it? 20:48:57 <huma> the scene 20:49:09 <dihedral> ah.... 20:49:18 * dihedral takes down his hands... 20:49:22 <huma> ah! family guy! :) 20:49:26 <dihedral> yep 20:49:28 <dihedral> :-D 20:49:32 <huma> :) 20:49:59 <huma> LeviathNL: why would you want to do that? 20:50:51 <huma> somebody tell Galamantyl about the servers 20:50:59 <huma> i don't know any 20:51:02 <LeviathNL> so I can launch openttd easier and because I want to know if it is possible:) 20:51:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:51:28 <dihedral> just put it in path 20:51:30 *** Hendikins|Work [~wolfox@ppp121-44-47-99.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:51:39 <dihedral> i mean $PATH 20:51:56 <Ammler> or editing the makefile? 20:51:58 <Rubidium> LeviathNL: echo -en '#!/bin/bash\ncd ~/openttd\nmake run' > /usr/bin/openttd && chmod a+x /usr/bin/openttd 20:52:17 <Rubidium> *or* 20:52:21 <Galamantyl> I'm starting to worry that there might not be a challenging server, and everyone just plays on flatlands with trains by themselves. :\ 20:52:33 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 20:52:56 <dihedral> lol 20:52:57 <huma> Galamantyl: right, why would we need any competition 20:52:59 <dihedral> you're cute 20:53:00 <Ammler> Galamantyl: dihedral should do one, but I don't know why? :) 20:53:01 <Rubidium> ./configure --data-dir=/home/leviath/openttd/bin/data 20:53:16 <Ammler> (why he doesn't) 20:53:19 <Galamantyl> Because it's fun. Kinda the point of multiplayer. 20:53:38 <dihedral> do a competition server? 20:53:42 <Ammler> yes 20:53:47 <dihedral> yeah - thinking about that 20:53:54 <huma> stop thinking 20:54:00 <huma> do some action! 20:54:07 <dihedral> last tim ei 'activly' thought about it was 2 1/2 weeks ago 20:54:11 <Galamantyl> I hosted a game but nobody joined. 20:54:20 <Ammler> then he had something else to do :) 20:54:25 <dihedral> just before some funny swiss dude came up to me on irc and started mentioneing more_clients patch 20:54:44 <dihedral> which kinda got me distracted 20:55:20 <dihedral> and since the even is over, i am still a little sleepy, as i have not really managed to get to bed early enough to catchup with just a minor lack of sleep 20:55:59 <huma> sleep is boring 20:57:24 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos ketchup... 20:57:58 <dihedral> lol 20:58:31 <dihedral> you cut your finger off, which made you think of some freddy krueger movies, which made you think of ketchup? 20:59:12 <LeviathNL> Rubidium, somehow make gets in a loop :/ 20:59:29 *** Barry [~chatzilla@bg1078138.hum.uva.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.8/2007100816]] 20:59:45 <huma> LeviathNL: kill the link you made first :) 21:00:08 <huma> ketchup -> hotdog 21:03:16 <dihedral> hot dog ran away 21:04:21 <LeviathNL> Thank you Rubidium now it works. I also didn't know 'make run', very handy. 21:12:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:19:55 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a03.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:22:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 21:22:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 21:32:07 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 21:35:45 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-145.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 21:38:00 *** fjb [~frank@Wa18a.w.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:12 <fjb> Moin 21:38:19 <Galamantyl> Is using airports considered... um... cheap? 21:38:29 <hylje> yes 21:38:34 <Wolf01> yes, since you make a lot of money 21:38:45 <Galamantyl> I've tried using them before, and while I was able to make a lot of money, the initial investment was hard to get 21:39:19 <Galamantyl> If you mess with land to make room for them, you can't build the airport 21:39:46 <Galamantyl> I was only able to make 3 last game I played, and they were in cities that didn't hate me. 21:40:39 <fjb> Build the first airport on flat land. :-) 21:40:57 <Galamantyl> I usually play on mountainous settings tho 21:41:12 <Wolf01> start with little airports 21:41:30 <LeviathNL> that's why one of the reasons I'd like to see passengers-destination ins trunk in the future, that way you can make a big airport somewhere and transport passengers from surrounding cities to it by train/train/whatever... 21:41:54 <fjb> Then it is an bit harder. But there should be flat land at the mountain tops near some cities. 21:41:57 <Galamantyl> Well, I don't fully understand why there's such a ridiculous amount of passengers in this game 21:42:04 <Galamantyl> In regular TTD, I don't recall it being this huge 21:42:44 <LeviathNL> you use ttrs? 21:43:08 <fjb> Btw, did the habdling of openttd.cfg change in the last nightly builds? 21:43:37 <fjb> handling 21:43:40 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-145.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: brb] 21:43:56 <Rubidium> define last 21:44:40 <Wolf01> question: if the running cost says "â¬380.000" why is the vehicle losing "â¬450.000" at year? 21:45:41 <Rubidium> that's "someone" who does not understand/read about the transfer system 21:46:39 <fjb> Between r11336 and r11362 i think. When I change the NewGRF setting in the start screen they do not get changed in openttd.cgf. 21:47:03 <Rubidium> that's odd 21:47:39 <fjb> The timestamp of openttd.cfg chenges. 21:48:03 <fjb> But the [newgrf] section does not. 21:48:16 <fjb> When does it write to the openttd.cfg? 21:48:38 <Ammler> on exit? 21:48:45 <Rubidium> it at least should 21:48:48 <Ammler> if you don't start with -x 21:48:54 <Rubidium> fjb: can you pinpoint a more specific version? 21:49:46 <LeviathNL> May have something to do with http://hg.openttd.org:8000/svn/trunk.hg/rev/bbbf6253bc10 ? 21:50:05 <LeviathNL> how many grf do you have loaded? 21:50:35 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 21:51:41 <fjb> No, sorry. Maybe it was even earlier without me noticing it. I used r11336 the last game. Today I copiled r11362 and started a new game. I changed the NewGRF settings in the start screen and generated a new game. 21:52:11 <dihedral> when you quit or run saveconfig 21:52:50 <fjb> 33 grfs. :-) 21:52:58 <fjb> But that usually worked. 21:53:49 <Rubidium> fjb: I meant that you tried some of the other revisions (between 11336 and 11362) and checked whether those work 21:54:06 <fjb> I just started OpenTTD a few minutes ago and wanted to generade a second game with the same sttings as the game from this morning. And the NewGRF settings were gone 21:54:28 <fjb> No, I didn't try it yet. 21:54:53 <fjb> I just wanted to ask first if the behavior changed and I just mised that. 21:54:56 <Ammler> fjb: possible, you have more then one revision 21:55:04 <Ammler> but only one cfg 21:57:45 <glx> fjb: works as intended for me 21:57:51 <fjb> Hm, no, but I now I think I know waht happened. Maybei I started a second instance while another of the game was running. And I happened then. I can not reproduce it now. Now the openttd.cfg get properly updated. Strange. 21:58:36 <fjb> Must have been a kind of race condition. 21:59:01 *** egladil_ [~egladil@c-f6ebe455.021-166-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 21:59:34 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 21:59:36 <fjb> Sorry for stealing your time. 22:00:37 <hylje> noes, mah time 22:01:59 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:03:55 *** pecisk [~pecisk@78.84.139.234] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:04:40 <fjb> Oh, while changing the setting in the start sreen, one of the planes of the background game crashed. 22:06:21 *** egladil_ibook [~egladil@c-f6ebe455.021-166-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:36 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:22 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 22:09:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11365 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1288]: when stopping a ship or aircraft, set their speed to 0 so they won't continue at the speed where they were stopped at. 22:13:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11366 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1258]: road vehicles must not drive through eachother on bridges/in tunnels. 22:15:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11367 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1258]: non-articulated road vehicles should be able to overtake (not-too-long) articulated vehicles, i.e. overtaking of articulated vehicles that are several (3+) tiles long is not supported. 22:16:14 <LeviathNL> go, go Rubidium 22:16:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:17:00 <Rubidium> to bed... ;) 22:17:16 <Bjarni> I don't think that was the intended meaning of that line :/ 22:17:26 <fjb> I saw articulated raod vehicles kind of passing through each other at a road crossing. 22:17:54 <Galamantyl> How do I sack a company from my server? 22:18:11 <glx> kick 22:18:13 <Galamantyl> Like... Delete, removed... 22:18:31 <glx> reset_company or something like that 22:18:35 <LeviathNL> fjb: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1369 like this? 22:19:40 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-160-233.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:21:40 <fjb> LeviathNL: Yes, like that. 22:22:31 *** Kommer [kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:45 <fjb> I hope there will be more articulates sets soon. They look great. I would like articulated trucks and busses. 22:24:57 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 22:25:15 <fjb> Are the road and the rail bridges different sets? 22:26:01 <LeviathNL> IIRC LV5 will have articulated vehicles, but George priority seems ECS now. 22:27:28 <fjb> I read that once. And he is really busy on ECS. Somebody talked about a german vehicle set. That couls be interesting too. 22:27:46 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:28:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:28:56 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:29:05 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6BE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:29:51 *** Kommer [kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 22:29:59 <LeviathNL> http://uwe.s2000.ws/ttdx/germanrv.html It has more progressed as I expected, nice surprise 22:31:18 <fjb> Indeed. And it has some very interesting trucks. 22:31:57 <fjb> I should learn more nfo... 22:32:08 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34:58 <fjb> I just loaded Georges new machinery vector. The new vehicles factory look great. 22:35:02 <LeviathNL> Question to the devs, will passenger destinations be included once finished? Or does is change gameplay too much? 22:36:52 <LeviathNL> that factory is huge :o 22:36:59 *** anna30 [~anna30@ANantes-257-1-94-46.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:37:28 <fjb> I would vote for general cargo destinations. But I fear that would be very cpu consuming. 22:38:10 <fjb> Yes, the factory is huge. And you can build a road or railroad betwenn the two parts. 22:38:26 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:38:46 *** anna30 [~anna30@ANantes-257-1-94-46.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 22:39:06 *** Rafagd [~kvirc@BHE200150044021.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #openttd 22:39:51 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:52 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7996.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:42:00 <fjb> But why do Georges industries carry glass in bags? Is that usual in russia? :-) 22:42:06 <skidd13> Hi 22:42:13 <fjb> Moin skidd13 22:42:46 <skidd13> fjb: A bit late or are you frisian? 22:43:12 <LeviathNL> I have this problem with ECS Town Vector but find it strange I'v heard no one else about it. If I build a station near a Tourist Centre it does not accept Tourist or anything. 22:43:58 <LeviathNL> Nor produce. 22:44:33 <fjb> No, not really, but I was studiing in the harz mountains (Technische UniversitÀt Claustha). And every student said "moin". Don't know who began that tradition there, must have been a frisien. 22:45:06 <skidd13> Can someone of the devs give me feedback to http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Talk:Coding_style 22:45:13 <Galamantyl> how do I send a private message to someone in-game? 22:45:29 <fjb> Hm, I once hat the same problem. But the production of that center was low. Maybe that was the reason. 22:45:40 <Tefad> any say moin moin? 22:46:08 <fjb> Tefad: No, only "moin" survived. :-) 22:46:20 <Tefad> heh 22:46:50 <skidd13> Galamantyl: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Multiplayer#Chatting 22:48:58 <skidd13> fjb: Now that you say it, it seems to be common between students. 22:49:14 <skidd13> At university I use that too ;) 22:49:31 <fjb> I'm tempted to build a short railroad between the two parts of the new vehicle factory, with a depot at each end a a shunter locomotive running between them. 22:50:17 <fjb> "Usual" people in Clauthal are saying "GlÃŒck auf". :-) 22:51:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host21-233-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:04 <Tefad> skidd13: if you wrote that, there's some english problems 22:56:42 <skidd13> Tefad: Yup I wrote that, and as I'm note native english, there are some probably. Correct it as you like 22:56:50 * Tefad nods 22:58:00 <LeviathNL> fjb, how do you get the production rate of a centre higher? I can't deliver anything to it. 22:59:20 <fjb> LeviathNL: I didn't find out yet. Just gave it up with that tourist center. In another game tourist centers were working, but have the feeling that they are not bug free yet. 23:00:33 <Tefad> there's a double negative, i'll try to write it as i understand your meaning: "That does NOT mean you should write cryptic highly optimized code. You should always care about performance but keep in mind that you are not the only person has to understand the code." 23:01:34 <Tefad> or perhaps "cryptically optimized" something. 23:02:24 <LeviathNL> I'll decode the Town-vector tomorrow and maybe, just maybe I might understand it a bit better :) 23:03:03 <skidd13> Tefad: optimised but cryptic 23:04:29 * fjb doesn't understand enough nfo yet. 23:05:19 <Belugas> LeviathNL, try using grf2html. it helps A LOT understanding nfo 23:05:37 <Belugas> and i really mean ... like... a BIG BIG LOT 23:06:04 <Maarten> will 0.6.0 come with a number of new industries/cargos by default, or will they always remain a newgrf that needs to be added to the game? 23:06:23 <Belugas> the later 23:06:53 <dihedral> Maarten: why dont you check out the #openttdcoop grf pack? 23:07:52 <fjb> My wine doesn't like me. And FreePascal doesn't compile grf2html either. It depends too much on the Windows UI. 23:08:30 <Maarten> That doesn't answer the question though :P - just wondering what and IF anything will be included by default in 0.6.0, I will keep my servers running the original version of the game without any grfs 23:09:31 <glx> then you won't have anything new 23:11:26 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-94-30.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:11:28 <LeviathNL> indeed fpc fails compiling grf2html :( any tips on getting it to work Belugas? 23:11:36 <Tefad> skidd13: awkward wording. trying to fix: "To some people it, working with unneeded variable copies seems to provide better readability." 23:12:42 <Tefad> scratch that "it" 23:12:45 <skidd13> Hmm. Some people like to introduce copys of variables to increas readability? 23:12:51 <skidd13> increase 23:13:04 <Tefad> sure. 23:14:17 <skidd13> Tefad: But that sentence miss the tendancy that this behavior is bad. 23:14:29 <Tefad> it is followed by one that makes it clear 23:14:51 <fjb> I have to take a vcloser look at nfo. It look like a full featured virtual risc machine. 23:15:36 <Tefad> you could replace the following sentence with this clause: ", which wastes memory." 23:15:50 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 23:15:50 <dihedral> !logs 23:15:56 <Tefad> clause, phrase, whatever. it's been a while since grammar lessons 23:17:57 <skidd13> ok 23:18:09 <Tefad> i'm poking around on the wiki btw 23:18:23 <Tefad> i'm not mentioning the minor changes 23:18:42 <skidd13> I've to catch a few hours of sleep. good night 23:18:46 <Tefad> and as it's a wiki you can always fix it the way you want to : ) 23:18:53 <Tefad> check it when you get a chance, i'll to my best on my own. 23:19:03 <skidd13> Thanks 23:19:03 <Tefad> do too.. 23:19:10 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7996.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 23:19:32 <LeviathNL> wine grf2html.exe does a good job 23:20:25 <fjb> My wine doesn't like me. It always complains about missing libraries. 23:20:35 <glx> update it 23:20:38 <Tefad> wine never has a problem here : \ 23:20:48 <Tefad> libraries.. you mean dll's within windows? 23:22:19 <fjb> Yes. 23:22:41 <fjb> Lokks like it needs some dlls from Windows. 23:23:14 <Tefad> some programs rely on language runtime dll's that don't come with wine 23:23:21 <Tefad> such as mscvrt6 or similar 23:23:23 <LeviathNL> google them 23:23:38 <Tefad> sometimes you can find a program that installs a bunch of these buggers 23:24:13 <LeviathNL> There is this one site that has many dll's. Is almost first result. 23:24:38 <Sacro> Tefad: there is a tool for wine that will do that for you 23:25:06 <Sacro> http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/ 23:25:06 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25:10 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-76.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 23:25:26 <Belugas> grf2html is made for Delphi, LeviathNL. fpc support is not yet added 23:25:34 <Tefad> Sacro: meh, my wine still has dcom98 installed : x 23:25:46 <LeviathNL> wine did a great job with the w32 build 23:26:23 <fjb> Ok, I will update wine again and see if it still complains. 23:27:09 <Belugas> Maarten, i gave you the answer.NOTHING will be included. You proposed two choices, i told you that the later (or the second one or the last choice) was the right one. 23:27:17 <Belugas> what more did you wish me to add??? 23:27:26 <fjb> How are people writing nfo code? Does everybody write the hex codes? 23:28:15 <Belugas> fjb, it depends. some are using grfmaker, some are using notepad or another text editor 23:28:59 <fjb> What is grfmaker? 23:29:22 <LeviathNL> i did some small things just in gedit with ttdpatch wiki and a hex<->convert applet open in firefox 23:29:37 <LeviathNL> * hex<->bin converter 23:29:43 <Belugas> fjb, search grfmaker on tt-forums 23:29:50 <LeviathNL> I mean dec :P 23:31:29 <glx> http://devs.openttd.org/~glx/townname/ <-- I wrote them with a text editor 23:33:06 <LeviathNL> are these "@@BEAUTIFY ..." ActionC comments in Georges code of any use or just comments ? 23:33:21 <glx> it is for nforenum 23:33:45 <fjb> glx: much work... 23:36:39 <Belugas> fjb, i did my new town replacement by hand too, with a text editor. 23:36:49 <Belugas> much work in deed, but much rewards too 23:36:54 <fjb> I found some screen shots of grfmaker. Looks easy for the beginner. But is it limiting for the advanced grf creator? 23:37:18 <Belugas> it is limited in the sens it is not up to date with today's feature 23:37:35 <Belugas> plus, youhave to understand what you're doing before using grfmaker 23:37:44 <Belugas> otherwise, you will screw up big time. 23:38:26 <fjb> You should always know what you are doing. A gui doens't help anything when you don't know, what you are doing. 23:38:51 <glx> if only everybody was like you :) 23:39:41 <TrueBrain> Belugas: where btw is the source of grf2html? 23:40:02 <LeviathNL> svn://dumbledore.zernebok.com/projects/grf2html 23:40:10 <TrueBrain> tnx 23:40:27 <fjb> I have seen it too often. Skilled admins get fired because the new server has a gui. The bosses think because of the gui every idiot can keep it running and secure. :-( 23:41:02 <Belugas> you will like it, TrueBrain, it's a command line tool ^_^ 23:41:28 <TrueBrain> of course, my dear Watson 23:41:48 <fjb> My new wine realle starts grf2html, but it seams to be very slow. 23:41:50 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176121010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 23:42:14 <fjb> Ups 23:42:31 <fjb> wine: Unhandled exception 0x0eedfade at address 0xffffffe8:0x7e22f2c8 (thread 0009), starting debugger... 23:42:35 <glx> depends on the grf you are decoding 23:42:52 <TrueBrain> now that is bad, at least wine should be able to run it ;) 23:43:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i had to downgrade my wine to get civ4 running 23:43:35 <fjb> The unhandled exeptions doesn't look good. It is still running, but takes 100% cpu time. 23:44:03 * fjb thinks civ4 looks too much candy colored. 23:44:45 <BigBB> fjb, you can change the look 23:45:37 <fjb> I have only seen screen shot and stayed with civ3. 23:45:47 <BigBB> and install BlueMarble 23:46:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried to play the final frontier mod (where you are in space) but it crashes after a rather short time 23:46:22 <Eddi|zuHause> fjb: honestly, you are an idiot if you judge a game by a screenshot... 23:46:39 <Belugas> or by the cover of the box! 23:46:42 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: it depends if you plan to buy it ;) 23:46:52 <BigBB> in civ4 can you change almost everything 23:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, what i saw of the mods was amazing 23:47:35 <BigBB> the final frontier is a good example :) 23:48:27 <fjb> I could only judge it on the screen shots without buying it. 23:48:33 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: yeah, that's why there are usually demo versions of games 23:49:18 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: yup :) 23:50:07 * Belugas cries! He has forgotten his SD card at work :( 23:50:14 <TrueBrain> Belugas: AGAIN? :) 23:50:15 <TrueBrain> night all 23:50:23 <fjb> Night TrueBrain 23:50:25 <BigBB> gn8 23:50:37 <LeviathNL> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Cargos what is the difference between property A & property B ? 23:50:57 <LeviathNL> good night TrueBrain 23:51:21 <BigBB> Eddi|zuHause, if you don't know: http://www.civilized.de/ 23:51:25 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:51:40 <glx> LeviathNL: 0A is for news messages 23:52:05 <fjb> grf2html is not working with wine here. It gives that exception, eats 100% cpu time and stay at 0% html. 23:52:11 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.90.253] has joined #openttd 23:52:31 <LeviathNL> glx can you give an example when they are different? 23:53:01 <Belugas> yeah... again... the consequences of running away from the ofice before anyone asks YET ANOTHER STUPID QUESTION 23:53:10 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54:00 <LeviathNL> how do you combine running away from stupid questions and being on irc :P? 23:54:08 <Belugas> well... looks like i will have to wait until tomorrow to finsh action00 industr prop 24 :( 23:54:24 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:54:41 <Belugas> LeviathNL, sometimes, they are quite the same, but i was referring to the questions my colleagues keep on asking me ;) 23:54:55 <glx> LeviathNL: prop 0B always has a number before it 23:55:00 <Sacro> grr 23:56:11 <LeviathNL> prop 24 ACtion0Inustries is not on the ttdpatch wiki :s? 23:56:38 <Belugas> i know :) 23:57:31 <LeviathNL> openttd exclusive? 23:57:39 <Belugas> nope :) 23:57:50 <fjb> Not documented yet? 23:58:29 <glx> not implemented yet 23:58:43 <glx> in a clean way that is 23:59:37 <Belugas> it's a work in progress. 23:59:46 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:51 <Belugas> a commun effort, that is :)