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00:00:03 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... 00:00:12 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know where that comes from 00:00:30 <SmatZ> dien ~ servant ? 00:00:33 <Gonozal_VIII> could be from dienst 00:01:23 <ln-> Mon is moon, and Sonn is sun, right? 00:01:41 <Gonozal_VIII> mond and sonne, yes 00:02:24 <ln-> and tor is the god of thunder, in torsdag/Thursday 00:02:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Der Name âDienstagâ, mittelniederdeutsch dingesdach, geht auf den mit dem latinisierten Namen Mars Thingsus belegten nordisch-germanischen Gott Tyr, BeschÃŒtzer des Things zurÃŒck und ist eine LehnÃŒbertragung von lat. dies martis = âTag des Marsâ." 00:02:38 <ln-> is he also Donner? 00:02:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> Donar, yes 00:02:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Der Name âDienstagâ, mittelniederdeutsch dingesdach, geht auf den mit dem latinisierten Namen Mars Thingsus belegten nordisch-germanischen Gott Tyr, BeschÃŒtzer des Things zurÃŒck und ist eine LehnÃŒbertragung von lat. dies martis = âTag des Marsâ." 00:03:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> damn... 00:04:04 <ln-> i demand the Pope to immediately change these obviously pagan weekday names to something appropriate. 00:04:27 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm seven names... sins? 00:04:36 <SmatZ> like Tag 1a, Tag 1b, Tag 1c, ... , Tag 2a, Tag 2b 00:04:55 <SmatZ> 1 stands for working day, 2 for weekend 00:05:06 <SmatZ> actually, I had a plan to change everything to be 10-based 00:05:10 <SmatZ> 10 days in week 00:05:15 <SmatZ> 10 months in a year... 00:05:29 <Gonozal_VIII> that would be short years... 00:05:31 <SmatZ> then I discovered the base 2/16 numbers 00:05:43 <Wolf01> 'night 00:05:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host251-15-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:05:50 <SmatZ> months could have 36 ir 37 days 00:05:59 <SmatZ> so it would be 10 * 36,5 = 365 00:06:01 <SmatZ> normal year 00:06:08 <ln-> SmatZ: the year used to have 10 months back in the good old days. 00:06:19 <Gonozal_VIII> it did? 00:06:26 <Gonozal_VIII> when? 00:06:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, "back in the old days", years used to be moon based 00:06:32 <ln-> SmatZ: that's why Sep = 7, Oct = 8, Nov = 9, Dec = 10 00:06:37 <SmatZ> and 7 workdays + 3 weekened days is very similiar ratio to current 5+2 00:06:52 <SmatZ> ln-: interesting, didn't know that 00:06:57 <SmatZ> though it sounds logical 00:06:58 <Gonozal_VIII> no, that's not because it had 10 month but because it started in march 00:07:14 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: also solution :) 00:07:31 <SmatZ> depends how long those months were... and given they were likely 28 days long... 00:07:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> so when methusalem is supposed to be some 900 years old, that's more like 900 months 00:07:54 <SmatZ> it should be rather 13 months 00:07:58 <SmatZ> :-) 00:08:33 <Gonozal_VIII> 75 years is also very old for back then 00:08:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, indeed, but a much more reasonable number 00:10:31 <ln-> someone has proposed a 28-day month, which would mean the month is always 4 weeks, and the weekdays always match the same numbers. 00:11:21 <Gonozal_VIII> 7 day month... so no months at all 00:11:44 <SmatZ> ^_^ 00:12:20 <SmatZ> true, why don't we just say 300. day of 2007 00:12:44 <SmatZ> or 703405. day AD? 00:12:45 <ln-> that's almost as bizarre as expressing times using week numbers. 00:12:57 <SmatZ> that's the same 00:13:00 <Gonozal_VIII> because it is the 334. :-) 00:13:00 <ln-> SmatZ: or unix time stamps, to be more exact. 00:13:04 <SmatZ> :-) 00:13:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: the julian calendar counted days in a 4 year period 00:13:26 <SmatZ> nice 00:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: what actually happened to the tunnel thingie? 00:14:26 <Gonozal_VIII> we could use unix time like they use stardate in star trek :-) 00:15:07 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: too much other things... sometimes I make a little progress, but... :-/ there are many things to be done in OTTD before 0.6 is out 00:15:10 <ln-> "oh, it's you, i haven't seen you since 1133309609!" 00:15:20 <SmatZ> Star date 3056.6 00:15:31 <SmatZ> :) 00:15:39 <ln-> don't forget swatch internet time. 00:15:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> in A.D. 2101, war was beginning 00:15:50 <Gonozal_VIII> :D 00:15:54 <Gonozal_VIII> ayb! 00:17:26 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm measure time in openttd revision numbers? 00:18:15 <SmatZ> that is not very periodical 00:18:31 *** dihedral [~root@joshua.dihedral.de] has quit [Quit: off to sweeden for a week... cu then :-)] 00:18:36 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't matter if you use it properly :-) 00:18:57 <ln-> neither are years equally long, and nobody seems to care 00:19:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> especially problematic for actions happening in the future... 00:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: they don't need to be equal, but predictable 00:20:51 <Gonozal_VIII> you should just stop planning ahead then 00:21:13 <ln-> leap seconds are not decided about too many years in advance 00:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, but how many leap seconds do you need to be a day off? 00:22:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> and how many actions need to be predicted by a range closer than a day over a year in advance? 00:23:57 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: you may try this, it is for some "ancient" revision 11060... you also have to replace opntitle.dat and load the only savegame that is provided :) http://dev.openttd.org/~smatz/3d/ 00:24:16 <SmatZ> problem is missing support for diagonal bridges in grf 00:24:33 <SmatZ> so I was trying to tweak current sprites... I am not sure about it 00:24:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: "Der Mittwoch ist nach deutscher ZÀhlung (DIN 1355) der dritte Wochentag, nach christlich-jÃŒdischer ZÀhlung der vierte (und somit der mittlere)." 00:25:22 *** Arpad [~Gali@204.13.236.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:44 <Gonozal_VIII> :S 00:26:45 <Gonozal_VIII> ha! quantum based units 00:27:06 <SmatZ> talking with myself :) http://paste.openttd.org/321 00:27:30 <Gonozal_VIII> yay? 00:27:47 <SmatZ> :) 00:27:51 <SmatZ> just wanted to try it 00:28:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: btw. "Donner" also means "thunder" 00:28:17 <SmatZ> now I am going to convert deutsch sentences into passive form :-D 00:28:23 <ln-> so i kind of thought 00:28:28 <ln-> half-consciously 00:30:54 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm should i go to sleep now or stay up and take the train home at 5:10... 00:31:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes. 00:31:18 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 00:31:36 <ln-> doesn't make sense to sleep anymore. 00:32:12 <Gonozal_VIII> last time i took that train they had some problems with the engine and it was 20 minutes late 00:32:42 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: please, "man kann eine Tasse Kaffee anbieten" ist in passivum "eine Tasse Kaffee kann angeboten werden", right? 00:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sounds correct 00:33:06 <SmatZ> thanks 00:33:07 <Gonozal_VIII> yes it is 00:33:10 <SmatZ> thanks :) 00:33:34 <Gonozal_VIII> you're good 00:33:48 <SmatZ> I spent like five minutes thinking about it, but thanks ;-) 00:34:36 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:36:15 <ln-> what to buy for an x-mas present to an 11-year-old? (my little brother) 00:36:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> a 14-day free AOL CD :p 00:36:50 <SmatZ> :-D 00:36:51 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 00:36:55 <Gonozal_VIII> ttd :D 00:37:11 <SmatZ> :) 00:37:15 <SmatZ> maybe Lego? 00:37:23 <Gonozal_VIII> yes lego is great 00:37:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Sacro> http://bash.org/?826387 00:39:10 <Gonozal_VIII> i've got at least 2 of those cds lying around somewhere 00:39:57 <SmatZ> is the perfektum from "verbinden" "vergebonden"? I cannot find it anywhere :-/ 00:39:57 <SERVEPRO_> two is 28 days of free 00:40:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> "verbunden"? 00:40:30 <SmatZ> thanks Eddi|zuHause2 00:40:50 <Gonozal_VIII> depends on what perfektum is^^ 00:40:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> in most cases, such things depend on context 00:41:14 <SmatZ> of course, "ver-" is unlikely to be disconnected 00:41:49 <SmatZ> "Können Sie Beruf und Familie problemlos miteinander verbinden?" 00:42:18 <Gonozal_VIII> right 00:42:23 <SmatZ> :) 00:43:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> the funniest one is "umgehen" 00:43:21 <SmatZ> why? 00:43:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> or better "umfahren" 00:43:31 <SmatZ> "ist umgegangen?" 00:43:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> because "ich fahre um" means something entirely different from "ich umfahre" 00:43:51 <SmatZ> ah :) 00:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> these two cases are quite easy to distinguish, but in the infitive form "umfahren", you have to be very careful, which syllable you emphasise ;) 00:49:03 <SmatZ> like UMfahren or umFAhren? 00:49:05 <Gonozal_VIII> btw i think you only capitalize "sie" in letters... not sure because they changed a lot of the rules that i learned in school 00:49:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes. exactly 00:50:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think, if you emphasise the first syllable, you split it off, if you emphasise the second syllable, you don't 00:51:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it's quite difficult for a native speaker to recognise this kind of regularity 00:51:27 <SmatZ> really nothing for me... 00:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> i mean, if you are native speaker, you do not think about it, you just do it 00:57:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> what i also just noticed: 00:58:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> it is verbinden -> verbunden 00:58:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it is umbinden -> umgebunden 00:59:06 <SmatZ> it is rather complex :) 00:59:32 <ln-> i guess you don't pay much attention to the sets { an, auf, hinter, in, neben, ÃŒber, unter, vor, zwischen }, { aus, bei, mit, nach, seit, von, zu }, { durch, fÃŒr, gegen, ohne, um } 00:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, you do learn those at school 01:00:32 <SmatZ> ist gesprochen worden / mÃŒssen abgeschickt werden / werden untergeschrieben ... :-) 01:00:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> especially in conjunction with which ones require 3rd case (Dativ) and which ones require 4th case (Akkusativ) 01:00:37 <Gonozal_VIII> you do? can't remember... what about those? 01:00:38 *** jfc [~jfc@ip-20.47.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 01:00:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: unterschrieben 01:01:00 <SmatZ> thanks! 01:01:35 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess i suck at german 01:02:26 <ln-> you should (both) listen to the german listening comprehension test for the matriculation examination in order to know that you suck in german. 01:02:37 <ln-> for the *finnish* ... 01:02:43 <ln-> matriculation examination 01:03:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> you have any kind of examples? 01:05:29 <ln-> first of all, it is a test with a few pieces of text read aloud (from tape/cd), and 30 questions with options A,B,C(,D) 01:05:52 <ln-> and its name suggests it is supposed to measure how well you understood what was said on the tape. 01:06:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, but that does not tell anything about the difficulty level... 01:06:30 <ln-> let's have a practical example: 01:07:21 <ln-> a school class from a german senior high visited our school (when i was still in senior high), and they listened to the test. 01:08:10 <ln-> the best ones got something like 27..29/30 of the questions right, i think no one got 30/30, and many got only just above 20/30. 01:08:46 *** jfc [~jfc@ip-20.47.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 01:09:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sounds like a quite reasonable distribution 01:09:30 <ln-> but for fox's sake, it is supposed to be a test that measures german skills of finns who have studied german only for 3 to 5 years. 01:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> assuming 15/30 is the minimum requirement 01:09:53 <ln-> and then a whole class of native germans cannot get better results than that? 01:10:45 <Gonozal_VIII> you can't remember everything you heard even if it was in your native language... 01:10:50 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-213-163.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> would mean >27 is "very good" and ~20 is "medium" result 01:10:56 <ln-> and that is because the questions are so tricky.. you are give 3 or 4 alternatives which are almost the same, but differ in some small detail. 01:11:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, the problem is that you need to know in advance what parts you really have to listen to 01:11:52 <ln-> so it's more a matter of ruling out the contradicting alternatives, and trying to remember what exactly did they say and what not. 01:11:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> in a normal conversation, you often block out stuff that you deem "uninteresting" 01:12:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> that might even be done unconsciously 01:13:16 <ln-> and one more feature of the material that is listened to: it is being read veeeery s l o w l y . 01:13:27 <ln-> very well articulated. 01:13:30 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfc@ip-20.47.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 01:13:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 01:13:53 <ln-> that is, the kind of speech you almost never hear in real life, not even the news on TV. 01:15:48 <ln-> and then you go to germany and the girl at macdonald's desk asks you "köad daf akdfj ghadfg adkvabjgb? jkaadf gfvbgf?", and you have no idea wtf was being said. 01:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's the point, it does not really matter what she said 01:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> you just say "einmal bigmÀc mit pommes und groÃe fanta" 01:16:55 <ln-> it does if she expects an answer. :) 01:17:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> you just say it again ;) 01:18:02 <ln-> actually, this was a true event but not in germany, but in sweden. (the situation is the same, and the listening comprehension tests are similar) 01:18:34 <ln-> in germany it was the conductor on train who asked me "dfjadfl akf ropgi dfgö aodfgofg?" 01:19:07 <Gonozal_VIII> then you show him your ticket and he is happy :-) 01:19:32 <ln-> he wanted us to pay some additional supplement. 01:20:18 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause2: "und ein ketchup, bitte" 01:20:26 <ln-> or "einen" 01:20:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: that's probably what she was asking ;) 01:21:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> and "hier essen oder mitnehmen?" (very important question!) 01:21:35 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, the additional paper bag is veeeeery important 01:21:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: actually, it's about tax calculation 01:21:57 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause2: actually she was asking for some ID, because i was paying my 22kr (~2â¬) purchase with Visa. 01:22:08 <Gonozal_VIII> tax calculation? 01:22:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> "hier essen" is restaurant -> luxary good -> 19% tax 01:22:27 <SmatZ> :-D 01:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> "mitnehmen" is food -> reduced tax -> 7% (maybe changed?) 01:22:31 <Gonozal_VIII> luxary goods are 33% or something here... 01:23:09 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause2: you can't imagine how quickly one can utter the word "Legitimation?"... whose meaning i didn't even know at the moment, and couldn't there for anticipate it. 01:23:12 <Gonozal_VIII> reduced tax is 10% and doesn't apply to food 01:23:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> you have strange laws in your country :p 01:24:09 <ln-> and i couldn't anticipate someone would want to see ID for a 2⬠purchase. 01:24:34 <ln-> then i later heard that for swedish Visas the ID should always be asked. (but not foreign ones, like mine) 01:26:26 <ln-> but in general i understand an adequate percent of what's being said in german, so i can order food in Germany/Austria without resorting to english. 01:26:53 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-30.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:27:01 <ln-> "bitte zwei kÃŒgeln erdbeer" 01:27:18 <Gonozal_VIII> kugeln :-) 01:27:36 <ln-> sure about that? :) 01:27:53 <ln-> the dictionary agrees with you 01:27:59 <SmatZ> like erdbeer icecream? 01:28:17 <ln-> SmatZ: ja, italienisch eis. 01:29:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> <ln-> "bitte zwei kÃŒgeln erdbeer" <- that's a funny issue, because in most cases, "umlauts" mean the word is in plural 01:30:42 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:30:53 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: ah, now i remember; i was using the wrong vowel first (but still got what i wanted), then i heard someone say it the correct way in front of me. and then i forgot it and wrote it wrong here. 01:30:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> but the reverse is not necessarily true ;) 01:31:32 <Gonozal_VIII> now you'll remember :-) 01:32:05 <ln-> i think kugel is analogous enough with e.g. vogel, which has the umlaut. :) 01:32:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> but with vogel you do not add "n" in the plural 01:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> because that would give a really different meaning :p 01:33:00 <Gonozal_VIII> you can... but you shouldn't^^ 01:33:54 <ln-> ah, birds + n, i just learned new vocabulary. 01:34:18 <Gonozal_VIII> you know what it means? 01:34:40 <ln-> it's quite birdish in english too, duck. 01:35:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm not sure if you really got the meaning right... 01:35:27 <Gonozal_VIII> i think he has 01:35:55 <ln-> duck you, i have it right. 01:36:10 <ln-> :) 01:36:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> right... 01:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> although in german that is one of the really polite ways to express it... 01:37:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> it does not have that negative connotation that the f word has... 01:37:24 <Gonozal_VIII> the f word is not negative... 01:37:30 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g 01:38:00 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77BA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:39:22 *** AntB is now known as Guest114 01:39:25 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.65.0] has joined #openttd 01:39:50 <ln-> hmm, does the plural of vogel happen to get an 'n' to its end in any flexed form? 01:40:30 *** Guest114 [~AntB-UK@81.140.65.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:38 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 01:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> "Ich war einmal bei den Singvögeln, aber sie haben sich dann aufgespalten, die einen wollten nur noch singen, und die anderen nur noch..." 01:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> (Otto Waalkes) 01:41:37 <Gonozal_VIII> die vögel, der vögel, den vögeln, die vögel 01:41:44 *** G [~njones@202-154-150-91.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 01:41:59 <glx> nice all with squares ;) 01:42:15 <Gonozal_VIII> lalala *hides* 01:42:19 <ln-> then your high school pupils have a lot to giggle about. 01:42:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's only funny the first couple of thousand times... 01:42:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> so it gets a little old after like 6 years... 01:43:32 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-150-91.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:50 <ln-> at about the time of finishing senior high. ;) 01:44:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> honestly, there is more funny stuff... 01:44:24 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfc@ip-20.47.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> like "Kentucky Schreit Ficken" 01:44:53 <Gonozal_VIII> "wenn fliegen hinter fliegen fliegen, fliegen fliegen fliegen nach" 01:45:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> if at all: "wenn hinter fliegen fliegen fliegen, fliegen fliegen fliegen hinterher" 01:45:43 <Gonozal_VIII> "Wenn Fliegen hinter Fliegen fliegen, fliegen Fliegen Fliegen nach" <-- easier to understand but less fun 01:45:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> could also replace "fliegen" with "robben" 01:46:13 <Gonozal_VIII> oh right... yours is better 01:46:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> i previously had that exact same conversation in this exact same channel... 01:46:49 <Gonozal_VIII> dejavu? 01:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, it's when they change something in the matrix 01:47:25 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 01:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> btw. it's "déjà vu" 01:47:50 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@81.140.65.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:03 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, but i can't write that without utf-8 ;-) 01:48:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can 01:48:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> those letters are in all common extended ascii sets 01:49:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> especially the space... 01:49:38 <Gonozal_VIII> [02:47:41] Eddi|zuHause3: btw. it's "dà © j à  vu" 01:50:22 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: anyhow, e' and `a are a part of e.g. Latin-1, your favorite charset. 01:50:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> so? doesn't mean you can't write it 01:50:47 <Gonozal_VIII> Déjà -vu 01:50:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> see? 01:50:57 <Gonozal_VIII> ok ok 01:51:35 <glx> use a "real" client ;) 01:52:13 <ln-> actually Gonozal_VIII's favorite charset might be Windows-1251. 01:52:19 <Gonozal_VIII> i used to but i'm only in this channel now and i don't want to install a client for a single channel when i have such a nice plugin in trillian :-) 01:53:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> 1252 more likely... 01:53:44 <ln-> oops, you're right. 02:03:44 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-51-241.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:37 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:15 <ln-> does anyone object if i order a couple of DS9 season boxes? 02:09:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E589.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'] 02:09:28 <ln-> ~28⬠each, including shipping. 02:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> only if you then spam us with ds9 quotes in $random_language 02:25:35 <glx> I can use @kick in this case ;) 02:25:37 <SERVEPRO_> ph33r 02:48:17 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB5748.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:48:17 *** Osai is now known as Guest125 02:48:17 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 02:49:55 *** alphax [alphax@59.40.130.70] has joined #openttd 02:52:13 <ln-> order placed 02:52:30 <Gonozal_VIII> oh noes! 02:52:40 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 02:53:06 <Belugas> anyone tried to work with kdev and ottd? 02:53:11 <ln-> also pre-ordered (from another place) Star Wars IV, V, and VI for the total price of about ~32⬠+ shipping. 02:53:59 <alphax> Hi, I has a question about the train acceleration. 02:54:10 <alphax> the manual say, 02:54:10 <ln-> "I has the bucket" 02:54:11 <alphax> Non-Maglev train acceleration = 37 *(0.55 * Power / Speed - 1.3 * Mass + 60 * #cars + 0.0035 * Mass * Speed + 0.24 * Speed^2 - 60 * Mass of cars on slope) / Mass (kph/day) 02:54:22 <alphax> what's the meaning of "37"? 02:54:26 <Gonozal_VIII> i has a var 02:54:47 *** Guest125 [~Osai@pD9EB7D9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:55:10 <Gonozal_VIII> 37... some magic? 02:55:36 <alphax> I don't understand. 02:57:40 <ln-> hey, you're from china? 02:58:26 <Belugas> alphax, where did you get those numbers? 02:59:37 <alphax> yes. i am chinese. 03:00:22 <alphax> to Belugas, The formula is declarated in the openttd manual page (wiki) 03:00:56 <Belugas> harghh... 03:01:03 <Belugas> ok, i check in the code 03:01:22 <alphax> the bottom of the page on http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Game_mechanics 03:01:45 <ln-> alphax: tell me then, have you ever seen a device like this: http://www.unitend.com/utmost/UC-3101.html 03:02:13 <ln-> alphax: and/or do you know how much do they cost? 03:03:10 <alphax> I dont known 03:03:34 <Gonozal_VIII> what's that? usb tv reciever? 03:03:54 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: yeah. for digital cable tv. 03:05:30 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: the number of cable-receivers for USB 2.0 in the European market is: one (1) 03:05:49 <Gonozal_VIII> really? 03:06:05 <ln-> as far as i know. there is one other, but it's not usb 2.0. 03:06:37 <Gonozal_VIII> what's the difference between dvb-t and dvb-c? 03:07:05 <ln-> and this one is terribly expensive, ~150e although you can get -t models for even less than 20e. 03:07:35 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B041DB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:59 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: different modulation technique used due to different properties of air and cable... from the end user's perspective: they simply are not compatible with each other either way. 03:08:22 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm that sucks 03:08:50 * Belugas keeps on seraching for accelration calculations 03:09:19 <Gonozal_VIII> there are lots of dvb-t recievers, i have one myself... i thought you could just plug in the cable instead of the antenna... 03:10:08 <ln-> you can, but you won't see anything. 03:10:10 <De_Ghost> hey 03:10:14 <De_Ghost> in xp 03:10:22 <De_Ghost> explorer is just ui for desktop 03:10:34 <De_Ghost> does it manage any critical functions? 03:10:39 <ln-> except.. it is possible to broadcast dvb-t signal on cable-tv network, and someone even does that, but it's rare and sub-optimal. 03:10:43 <De_Ghost> cuz i can live withour taskbar and everything 03:10:49 <Gonozal_VIII> no, you can shut it off 03:10:59 <De_Ghost> awsome 03:11:00 <De_Ghost> lol 03:11:05 <Gonozal_VIII> and restart it later if you want through the task manager 03:11:12 <De_Ghost> yea i know :) 03:11:35 <De_Ghost> cuz i though explorer manage some gay function or another 03:12:49 <Gonozal_VIII> i haven't noticed anything failing because explorer wasn't running... 03:13:14 <Gonozal_VIII> but i never had that situation for long so i don't know much about it 03:14:14 <De_Ghost> yea i think explorer is just ui not api 03:14:16 <Belugas> haaa.. train_cmd.cpp:310 03:14:24 <Belugas> now... what do we have in here... 03:16:08 <Gonozal_VIII> should be possible to write your own explorer and use that instead :-) 03:16:48 <alphax> in last of the function, just return (force - resistance) / (mass * 4); 03:18:23 <Belugas> yeah, after a series of stuff i do not have a clue what they are there for... 03:18:41 <Gonozal_VIII> somehow the dvb-c reveivers all have a hd built in 03:19:28 <Belugas> in both cases, anyway, the 37 is there... 03:19:38 <Belugas> so something like a physic constant, maybe 03:20:02 <Belugas> canno be gravitaion, too simple 03:20:43 <Belugas> hoo.... 03:20:54 <Belugas> Road vehicles accelerate at 37kph/day. 03:21:02 <Belugas> # Ships accelerate at 37kph/day. 03:21:41 <Belugas> so 37 could be seen as base acceleration in the game, mabe 03:22:01 <Gonozal_VIII> i've been bugging a friend of mine who studied physics to look into the vehicle acceleration in openttd for some time now... 03:22:12 <Belugas> the algo just cange the regular acc adapted to the trains 03:22:39 <alphax> but this constant is not appears in the source 03:22:48 <Belugas> indeed 03:23:05 <Belugas> but i've never touched vehicle code before either ;) 03:23:23 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-144-137-110-250.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 03:23:42 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-144-137-110-250.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined 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Please try the request again. 15:42:51 <Belugas> so... 15:43:08 * Belugas does not know real status of ttdpatch's wiki 15:43:13 <Belugas> just that it is not working 15:43:49 <Belugas> mmmh... 15:43:53 <Belugas> wiki2 works 15:45:11 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:32 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-253-151.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:06 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 15:50:24 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A46FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [ZZZzzzz.] 15:57:21 <Belugas> now it works ... 15:57:21 <Belugas> good 15:57:32 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83D62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:47 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83E61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:58:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:03:55 *** frosch123 [~mtce@picard.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:50 *** NarkSlap [me@87-76-242-68.event.dreamhack.se] has joined #openttd 16:08:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> now this is an interesting statistics: http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,26898,00.html 16:12:06 * Hendikins pads in and flops 16:12:36 <Hendikins> Just for fun, weekend trackwork = twice as many trains. Go figure. 16:14:11 *** MarkSlap [me@87-76-9-125.event.dreamhack.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:01 *** NarkSlap [me@87-76-242-68.event.dreamhack.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:35 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: what is the difference between unknown and other? 16:16:45 <Bjarni> wouldn't everything in unknown be other? 16:17:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, other is known, but irrelevant 16:17:07 <Bjarni> or is unknown also known as IRC? 16:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> IRC would go into the IM part, i assume 16:17:37 <Bjarni> most likely 16:18:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> unknown might be stuff like SSL traffic that cannot be analysed 16:18:36 <Bjarni> right 16:18:40 <Bjarni> I use that a lot 16:18:52 <Bjarni> remote login to uni servers 16:19:05 <Bjarni> sftp file transfers 16:19:09 <Bjarni> stuff like that 16:19:32 <Bjarni> that could easily be way more than 6% of my traffic 16:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> for example... 16:20:38 <Bjarni> at one time I used ssh -X to open firefox because it didn't work correctly with the locally installed one 16:20:44 <Bjarni> but that was internally on uni 16:21:00 <Bjarni> but it could tell how easy it is to transfer decent amount of data though ssh 16:21:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> what i am missing in that picture is online game traffic (WOW and stuff) 16:21:14 <Bjarni> yeah 16:21:44 <Bjarni> considering the time spent on WOW, the amount of bandwidth could be interesting to know as well 16:23:13 <Bjarni> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MjY4OTgmbnI9NQ_3_3,00.html <-- wtf is "abook"? 16:23:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> audio book? 16:23:27 <Bjarni> oh 16:23:30 <Bjarni> right 16:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MjY4OTgmbnI9NA_3_3,00.html <- i find this one really odd... 16:24:50 <Bjarni> why? 16:25:07 <Bjarni> looks like Germans use bittorrent and edonkey a lot 16:25:19 <Bjarni> you mean that your own survey showed something else? 16:26:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, i mean that "DirectConnect" column, that basically replaces "eDonkey" in eastern europe... 16:26:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> while it does not show at all in the other parts 16:26:26 <Bjarni> hmm 16:27:11 <Bjarni> maybe somebody in Eastern Europe started sharing Eastern European movies and stuff on DirectConnect 16:27:27 <Bjarni> and now that's the place to go for localised movies/audio/software 16:27:34 *** mikegrb_ [~michael@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 16:27:53 <Bjarni> so it's 29% localised stuff and the other clients are for stuff in English 16:28:14 <Bjarni> but... I'm not even sure what DirectConnect really is... 16:28:34 <Hendikins> Bleh, I won't have time to play openttd at work today. 16:28:42 *** mikegrb is now known as Guest172 16:28:42 *** mikegrb_ is now known as mikegrb 16:28:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> a filesharing network i assume :p 16:28:54 *** Guest172 [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 16:30:49 <Bjarni> Hendikins: shit happens :P 16:31:15 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: well... according to wikipedia it's a P2P network without contact to other networks 16:31:20 <Hendikins> Bjarni: Yeah, normally weekends are lazy, but we've got 8 trains/hour in each direction instead of 4. 16:31:38 <Bjarni> 8? 16:31:46 <Hendikins> So instead of having these nice 15 minute gaps between trains (since I only care about one direction)... well, I don't. 16:31:52 <Bjarni> sounds like rush hour here 16:32:10 <Hendikins> We've got trackwork that is making things a bit special. 16:32:38 <Bjarni> the railroad here just celebrated finishing the trackworks here 16:32:47 <Bjarni> well... they claimed that anyway 16:32:53 <Bjarni> I didn't notice a difference 16:33:19 <Bjarni> they still do stuff to the tracks at night 16:33:26 <Hendikins> Our normal all stations to the City via Bankstown services are running (2tph), our City via Granville services are being diverted via Bankstown and running express (2tph), and we're getting trains to/from the west diverted to the south (4 tph) 16:33:28 <Bjarni> but it might have been end of the special schedule or something 16:34:53 <Hendikins> ...and I am getting recognised by train crew - in a good way, which is nice :) 16:35:53 <Bjarni> heh 16:37:11 <Bjarni> reminds me of when I recognised a guy with a camera. He showed up and wanted to look inside the locomotive and then I started talking about seeing him like 2 weeks earlier where he was in the forest with his camera taking pictures of train(s?) 16:37:29 <Bjarni> and he was like "wtf? How could you notice?" 16:38:11 <Hendikins> I mainly get "You're the guy who does the announcements at Cabramatta, aren't you?" 16:43:39 <Belugas> freaking annoying closing industries... 16:44:31 <Bjarni> heh 16:44:41 <Bjarni> I never do announcements 16:45:00 <Bjarni> I think it's the benefit from not having a mic in the cab :D 16:45:21 <Bjarni> however it could be fun to talk to everybody in the train 16:45:35 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:45:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:45:43 <Bjarni> I once tried being on a bus where the driver started telling stories on the speaker system 16:45:55 <Bjarni> and it was a regular bus 16:46:01 <Bjarni> nothing special about it 16:46:41 <Bjarni> except for the driver that is... normally they appear like they have to pay for every single word they say or something 16:47:37 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Bjarni> reminds me of when I recognised a guy with a camera. He showed up and wanted to look inside the locomotive and then I started talking about seeing him like 2 weeks earlier where he was in the forest with his camera taking pictures of train(s?) <- but it's not like "you were the guy i almost ran over despite using the horn multiple times"?? 16:48:19 <Bjarni> no 16:48:37 <Bjarni> though I would recognise that weirdo as well 16:50:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> that would have been fun ;) 16:51:10 <Bjarni> I'm not so sure 16:51:24 <Hendikins> Bjarni: I'm not a spark driver yet, although I've considered it as a future option. 16:51:57 <Bjarni> heh spark 16:51:59 <Hendikins> I'm now a firm believer in the three ways though 16:52:06 <Hendikins> (Right way, wrong way, railway) 16:52:08 * Bjarni drives diesel 16:52:17 <SpComb> Bjarni 16:52:22 <Bjarni> SpComb 16:52:29 <Bjarni> that was fun 16:52:29 <SpComb> Bjarni's a C-writing train driver? 16:52:31 <Bjarni> let's do that again 16:52:32 <SpComb> (' is next to enter) 16:52:33 <Bjarni> SpComb 16:52:37 <Hendikins> Almost all CityRail services (including all suburban services) are sparks. 16:52:51 <Hendikins> So it is highly unlikely that I'd be driving diesels. 16:53:07 <Bjarni> <SpComb> Bjarni's a C-writing train driver? <-- I'm a guy, who can do everything 16:53:41 <SpComb> you drive diesel trains during the day, restore steam locomotives during the weekend and code in the evenings? 16:53:51 <Bjarni> not really 16:54:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> and at night he gets in his tights and saves the world from evil Sacros 16:54:16 <Bjarni> I study for my master during the day and whenever I have the time I do stuff to vintage diesel trains 16:54:19 <Bjarni> and sometimes steam 16:54:56 <Bjarni> I'm not a professional train driver though I presume that I could become one in really short time 16:55:22 <SpComb> right 16:55:27 <Bjarni> since I already knows the tracks, the rules, the theory and so on 16:56:06 <Bjarni> it happened more than once that somebody learned to drive vintage and then went professionally for a living 16:56:29 <Bjarni> but if I do that then it means discarding my university degree 16:57:03 <Bjarni> surprisingly I'm not planning to do so 16:58:24 <SpComb> or you could get your masters degree, and /then/ go drive trains 16:58:48 <Bjarni> but when I get my master degree I have to use it 16:59:05 <Belugas> you're studying in what exactly, Bjarni? 16:59:23 <Bjarni> imagine a person applying for a job that demands his master degree and he goes "I got it 10 years ago but I never used it" 16:59:31 <Bjarni> Belugas: electronics 16:59:41 <Belugas> oki 17:00:12 <Bjarni> hence the robots being the "practical test of the theory" 17:00:37 <Bjarni> it's easier to see if a robot drives into a wall than to check that some meter shows the correct value 17:01:00 <Belugas> next question : how does it fit with the train stuff? or even, what do you plan to do as a job? 17:01:36 <Bjarni> I plan to get a job outside the railroad industry 17:01:48 <Bjarni> leaving railroads as a hobby, not a way of living 17:02:05 <Belugas> granted :) 17:02:56 <Bjarni> also I'm not so sure that driving would be this fun if I did it every day 17:04:02 <Bjarni> remember when you got your driver's license. Back in those days it was fun to go to drive to pick up something. Today you would rather be doing something else because you drive all the time 17:04:55 <Belugas> hint... programming is not fun when you do it year long... 17:05:06 <Belugas> and i'm not talking about ottd ;) 17:05:06 <Bjarni> heh 17:06:03 <Bjarni> the fun in coding really depends on what you are coding 17:06:11 <Belugas> ... maybe this explains some departure from the dev team... 17:06:14 <Belugas> yeah, you're right 17:06:32 <Bjarni> if you are going "the deadline for this is in 2 days and I have no idea why it doesn't work" is not the fun kind of coding 17:06:56 <Belugas> i have the chance to not code in the same language at work as for ottd 17:07:04 <Belugas> indeed, Bjarni, i get that a lot 17:07:16 <Bjarni> sounds scary 17:07:36 <Bjarni> specially considering your software blocked your credit card :P 17:07:48 * Sacro returns 17:07:59 <Bjarni> oh 17:08:02 <Bjarni> wrong thing to say 17:08:07 <Belugas> lol 17:08:13 <Bjarni> don't talk about blocked credit cards :P 17:08:26 <Bjarni> it sounds so familiar to Sacro that he has to show up 17:08:41 <Belugas> nothing to do :) that was an attempt of getting over my limit way too often :) 17:08:43 <Sacro> :( 17:08:45 <Belugas> almost on purpose 17:08:56 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C09B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:36 * SpComb has written C, Python and Javascript code all at the same time for his OpenTTD stuff 17:11:55 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6D26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:13 * Bjarni writes C stuff for robots more or less at the same time as OpenTTD stuff 17:13:31 <hylje> robots 17:13:38 <Bjarni> no, my robot pathfinder can't be ported to OpenTTD 17:13:42 <Bjarni> you wouldn't want that 17:13:52 <hylje> yeah, it's a huge bjarnism 17:14:22 <Bjarni> actually if there is an obstacle then it tries to ram it to move it out of the way 17:14:28 <Bjarni> imagine trains doing that in the game 17:14:33 <Bjarni> or in real life 17:14:50 <Bjarni> "the track is blocked... let's try to see if we can ram anything on it to make way though it" 17:15:41 <hylje> sounds really clever 17:16:08 <Bjarni> yeah 17:16:29 <Bjarni> unless the train is a small DMU and the obstacle is a big boy pulling a freight train 17:16:56 <Bjarni> but if the obstacle is a road on the crossing then it's good to go 17:17:12 <hylje> how often do trains ram the road off a crossing 17:17:27 <SpComb> hmm, roadramming 17:17:35 <SpComb> a popular pasttime in the early sixties 17:17:46 <Bjarni> when it's the fault of the railroad: extremely rare 17:18:35 <Bjarni> it's a rare event 17:19:17 <Bjarni> and according to the statistics I think it was 98% of the collisions that's due to human error from the road vehicle driver 17:19:45 <Bjarni> leaving only 2% for technical problems with the car, the crossing or the train driver 17:20:11 <hylje> yet newspapers keep blaming the train 17:20:39 <hylje> suppose its too hard to blame the deceased no matter how stupid or avoidable the accident 17:21:28 <Bjarni> yeah... it's way better to blame the train driver because he didn't die 17:21:36 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:21:41 <Bjarni> he saw the whole thing but was unable to stop due to the laws of physics 17:22:34 <Bjarni> actually we should blame Newton for the laws of physics... it would be way easier without them 17:24:13 <Bjarni> well... even when it's the railroad that is to blame then the road vehicle driver isn't driving properly 17:24:57 <Bjarni> imagine a crossing that turns on and after a while it turns off again. A nearby train uses the horn continuously: would you still try to cross? 17:25:13 <Bjarni> no train passed the road yet 17:25:56 <SpComb> yes 17:26:58 <Bjarni> this is rare but it happens 17:27:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> i read somewhere that if the crossing is broken, the train must stop and look if the road is free 17:28:07 <Bjarni> that's true for our part of the world 17:29:27 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:29:36 <Bjarni> in USA the crossing activates 20 sec before the train arrives and you can't stop a train at that distance if it fails 17:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> breaking news: a bag of rice has fallen over in china 17:30:10 <Bjarni> o_O 17:30:23 <Bjarni> so now they are staving? 17:32:32 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35090 17:32:36 <Belugas> toumtedoum 17:32:42 <Belugas> you are now warned 17:33:14 * Sacro is warned 17:49:52 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:35 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [] 17:52:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:40 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 18:23:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.5.15.251] has joined #openttd 18:23:50 <Wolf01> hello 18:26:01 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-83-152.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:35:23 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:48 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Have a nice weekend!] 18:47:09 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 18:47:53 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:48:09 *** glx is now known as Guest197 18:48:09 *** glx|away is now known as glx 18:52:35 *** Guest197 [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:38 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6D26.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [ZZZzzzz.] 18:57:58 <ln-> Sacro: train station or railway station? 18:58:53 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6D26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:02 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:00:24 *** eemeli [~yea@cs181025147.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 19:00:52 <eemeli> hi 19:01:09 <eemeli> who do i report a crash/bug to? 19:01:39 <glx> bugs.openttd.org 19:02:12 <eemeli> i need to create an account to report a bug? 19:05:00 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D33.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:02 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:48 <Belugas> yes, if we want to discuss with you further after... 19:05:56 <Belugas> or inform you that the bug is fixed, 19:06:02 <Belugas> or even not a bug... 19:06:06 <Belugas> and why 19:06:06 <Belugas> etc.. 19:07:37 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N800P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:09:40 <eemeli> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1500 19:09:47 <eemeli> if i did something wrong feel free to bark at me D: 19:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's Sacro's job :p 19:11:04 <Belugas> 1) newgrf? 2) savegame? 19:11:24 <Belugas> the crash has nothing to do with chating 19:11:36 <skidd13> eemeli: trams? 19:11:46 <Gonozal_VIII> what did you do? build a road at unusual places? 19:12:01 <Belugas> he was chating, Gonozal_VIII 19:13:18 <eemeli> what do you mean "newgrf"?? 19:13:53 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess that means none 19:13:56 <DaleStan> google:newgrf 19:14:01 <eemeli> i have an autosave just before the crash 19:14:14 <skidd13> IIRC this bug is related to articulated vehicles and Rubidium has fix it. But I'm not sure. 19:14:14 <skidd13> the autosave is helpfull 19:14:15 <eemeli> we're using the generictram set 19:15:08 <Belugas> there we go... the set in question IS a newgrf.. or a grf 19:15:34 * Belugas wonders if a beta2 would not be in order... 19:16:18 <skidd13> Belugas: FS 1388 <- Same bug 19:16:32 <skidd13> And fixed by Rubidium 19:16:44 *** batataxpto69 [~vasco@89-180-62-40.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 19:16:47 <batataxpto69> hello 19:17:33 <batataxpto69> anyone? 19:17:36 <eemeli> hi 19:17:42 <batataxpto69> hello 19:17:51 <batataxpto69> ho do i talk in online ttd? 19:18:20 <eemeli> enter 19:18:24 <batataxpto69> lol 19:18:25 <batataxpto69> ok 19:18:27 <batataxpto69> tanhk u 19:18:34 <eemeli> np 19:19:49 <eemeli> well that was fast D: 19:20:44 <batataxpto69> lol 19:20:47 <batataxpto69> yeah 19:20:56 <eemeli> i meant my bug report :P 19:21:13 <batataxpto69> :S 19:21:23 <batataxpto69> ok 19:21:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-215-3.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:23:12 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6D26.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [ZZZzzzz.] 19:29:00 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6D26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:03 <Sacro> ln-: que? 19:51:48 <batataxpto69> que é que se passa? 19:53:49 <skidd13> Sacro: How many times you've been kicked because of using foreign languages? 19:54:00 <Sacro> skidd13: a fair few 19:54:07 <Sacro> however, I no longer copy/paste stuff 19:54:12 <Sacro> i only use words that I know what they mean 19:54:31 <batataxpto69> we can't use foreign languages? 19:54:47 <skidd13> english only please! 19:54:53 <batataxpto69> :( 19:54:56 <Belugas> yup 19:55:03 <Sacro> skidd13: por quoi? 19:55:10 <Belugas> as for everyone can understand 19:55:17 <skidd13> @kick Sacro 19:55:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, i noticed a significant drop in Sacro's sentences in the last few weeks ;) 19:55:19 <Sacro> as for? :p 19:55:24 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [You should know how to use English] 19:55:26 <batataxpto69> ok 19:55:30 <Belugas> grrr.... 19:55:32 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:55:35 <Sacro> :( 19:55:35 <Sacro> !stats 19:55:42 <batataxpto69> but portuguese is not foreign, here is national :P 19:55:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's not even correct.... 19:55:48 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 19:55:48 <Sacro> !logs 19:55:58 <Belugas> so anyone can understand everyone... 19:56:08 *** Bjarni changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta1 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 encoding is mandatory in this channel | English is the official channel language | And please, no YouT 19:56:08 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:56:26 <Sacro> no YouT eh 19:56:41 *** Bjarni changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta1 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 encoding is mandatory in this channel | English is the official channel language | And please, no YouT 19:56:52 <Bjarni> looks like our topic is too long 19:57:23 <skidd13> Bjarni: We maybe need a channel disclaimer :D 19:57:30 *** Bjarni changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta1 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 is mandatory | use English | And please, no YouTube links 19:57:42 <Belugas> "UTF-8 encoding and English are mandatory" ? 19:57:52 <ln-> will people be kicked for using latin-1? 19:58:05 <ln-> (i'm for it) 19:58:09 <batataxpto69> i don't know waht econding am i using 19:58:11 <skidd13> ln-: Not if no one notices 19:58:18 <Bjarni> only if they complain about not being able to see ÊÞå 19:58:20 * Sacro goes to a caf? 19:58:33 <Sacro> Bjarni: see it? I know the guy 19:59:02 <batataxpto69> can you read é ã ê ç ??? 19:59:15 <Bjarni> <batataxpto69> i don't know waht econding am i using <-- basically... can you see this char: "â«" 19:59:27 <Bjarni> if you can then you don't use latin-1 19:59:37 <batataxpto69> yes i can 19:59:45 <Bjarni> then you use UTF-8 19:59:58 <ln-> and it was only one character? 20:00:05 <ln-> the integral sign 20:00:52 <batataxpto69> yes only one, â« this one inside quotation marks 20:01:12 <Sacro> "S" 20:01:13 <Bjarni> ã¯ãã<-- well this should be two chars ;) 20:01:30 <batataxpto69> yes 20:01:41 <batataxpto69> to oriental chars 20:01:42 <Bjarni> and if you can read them as Asian chars, then you for sure aren't using any latin charset :P 20:01:42 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-253-151.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:44 <skidd13> Bjarni: Now you use foreign languages :D ;) 20:01:55 <Sacro> hmm, i see 3 unknown utf-8 chars 20:02:22 <Sacro> http://www.amazon.com/Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM 20:02:25 <Bjarni> skidd13: I wondered who would say that but it was the best test I could come up with 20:02:29 <batataxpto69> in portuguese channel i can read all the chars, ã à á ê ç ª, etc 20:02:43 <Bjarni> now the good questions is.... what did I write and in what language? 20:03:13 <skidd13> Bjarni: Be carefull with asian signs, you could say things you never intend... ;) 20:03:35 <batataxpto69> lol 20:03:44 <Bjarni> but I know what I just wrote :P 20:03:45 <batataxpto69> japanese 20:03:49 <batataxpto69> i think 20:04:25 <Bjarni> ããã<-- I presume that skidd13 is referring to words like that XD 20:04:40 <Bjarni> I didn't say it :P 20:04:44 <Bjarni> (at least not loud) 20:05:36 <Bjarni> hint: it appears that Sacro has a highlight on this one in English 20:05:42 <ln-> ËsÉu ËɪÅglÉªÊ ÊÊl wi toËk ðen. 20:05:43 * skidd13 hands a katana to Bjani (meant for kicking himself out of the channel) ;) 20:06:36 <skidd13> @all: please stay in english 20:07:03 <Bjarni> http://youtube.com/watch?v=DmRUaxq-QhU <-- skidd13.... you really want me to do that??? 20:07:17 <skidd13> Bjarni: Now a Youtube link 20:07:30 <ln-> ËnaΞiÅ woz dɪËsaɪdiËd ÉËbaut orËtogrÉfɪ 20:07:47 <skidd13> ln-: are warned! 20:07:53 <ln-> skidd13: what? it's english. 20:07:55 <Sacro> Bjarni: boobies? 20:08:08 <ln-> skidd13: modern day english. 20:08:12 <skidd13> ln-: I know therefore no kick ;) 20:08:19 <Bjarni> see.... Sacro understands boobs in all languages :P 20:08:46 * Bjarni imagines Sacro copy pasting the word from before and goes to make an image search on google 20:09:06 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:14 <Bjarni> Sacro: for all you know this can backfire... you only have my word for the meaning :P 20:10:24 <Bjarni> I will make this clear once and for all: you can get kicked for writing something I can't read!!! 20:10:27 <skidd13> good night 20:10:36 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6D26.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [ZZZzzzz.] 20:10:59 <Bjarni> I think that's the basic channel rule when it comes to what language to use 20:12:03 <Sacro> Bjarni: Shadayim :P 20:12:26 <batataxpto69> arabic? 20:12:34 <Sacro> :o 20:12:40 <batataxpto69> are you playing with babel translator? 20:12:50 <Sacro> batataxpto69: no, I happen to know the word 20:15:08 * Gonozal_VIII doesn't want to imagine why people would buy a combination of uranium ore, lots of live mouse traps, lube, enema sets and tons of lingerie 20:16:45 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: fun evening... 20:18:01 <Gonozal_VIII> it's all fun and games until the mutant butt-mice attack! 20:19:34 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 20:20:28 *** eemeli [~yea@cs181025147.pp.htv.fi] has quit [] 20:21:13 <Bjarni> Sacro: is that boobs in Arabic? 20:26:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.kombu.de/twain-2.htm 20:27:46 <Sacro> Bjarni: hebrew 20:29:19 <Bjarni> but I presume that it's boobs 20:29:24 <batataxpto69> it's the same 20:29:37 <Bjarni> otherwise you wouldn't have said it 20:29:42 <batataxpto69> lolol 20:30:23 <Bjarni> Sacroã®ãã 20:30:41 <Bjarni> now Sacro will wonder for a while what that sentence means :P 20:31:11 <batataxpto69> now he will think and he will not boring us 20:31:12 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:17 <batataxpto69> :P 20:31:44 <Bjarni> perfect 20:32:19 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 20:32:21 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:41:05 *** bob27 [~Robert@adsl-75-33-69-219.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:47 <Bjarni> see... he will not say anything until he figured out what I just said about him 20:41:57 <Bjarni> so we will never see him again :P 20:42:16 <batataxpto69> that's good, right? 20:42:47 <Gonozal_VIII> that text about german is great :D 20:43:31 <Bjarni> batataxpto69: it's perferct 20:43:35 <Bjarni> *perfect 20:43:38 <batataxpto69> ok 20:49:34 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB667F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 20:51:05 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i577B65E5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:52:50 <ln-> does anyone here happen to be a doctor? 20:57:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i577B6C37.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:53 <Bjarni> why? 20:59:58 <Bjarni> did you shoot somebody? 21:00:07 <Belugas> does it hitch? 21:00:10 <Bjarni> or did you do something as stupid as eat your own cooking? 21:00:32 <Bjarni> maybe he drank too much 21:00:46 <Bjarni> I read today that 5 people dies in Finland every day from drinking 21:00:47 <Belugas> does it smell? 21:01:05 * Bjarni feels bad for those 5 people 21:01:20 <Bjarni> dying on a daily basis... 21:01:21 <batataxpto69> tehy die drinking??? 21:01:26 <batataxpto69> porra! 21:01:31 <Belugas> depends what they were drinking and who gave them :P 21:01:38 <Bjarni> rocket fuel! 21:01:48 <Bjarni> err 21:01:51 <Bjarni> jet fuel! 21:01:56 <Bjarni> good quality jet fuel 21:02:00 <glx> kerosen? 21:02:05 <Bjarni> they drank it in Russia 21:02:25 <Bjarni> then the police started to investigate why the drunks died 21:02:54 <batataxpto69> hehehe 21:03:16 <batataxpto69> here ppl almost only drink beer 21:03:33 <batataxpto69> but the beer hear is strong 21:03:38 <Bjarni> the thing is... they didn't know it was jet fuel 21:03:40 <Belugas> here, it's coffee 21:03:43 <Belugas> lotsa 21:03:47 <Bjarni> it was sold as illegal vodka 21:03:55 <batataxpto69> :S 21:04:14 <Bjarni> and it was cheaper than normal vodka due to a new tax that was meant to cut down the use of vodka 21:04:37 <Gonozal_VIII> i know people that drink 96% ethanol 21:04:37 * Belugas thinks he need to stop drinking coffee... the night is getting closer 21:05:06 <glx> they could try E85 :) 21:05:11 <batataxpto69> people taht drink ethilic alcohol are commiting suicide 21:05:12 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 21:05:21 <batataxpto69> the liver don't affort that 21:05:37 <batataxpto69> here who drink absint in the night is crazy 21:05:55 <Bjarni> batataxpto69: are you sober? 21:06:09 <Bjarni> public drinking in this channel is banned 21:06:11 <batataxpto69> i will translate to see wath is a sober 21:06:18 <batataxpto69> in the babel fish 21:06:30 <Belugas> E85? 21:06:38 * Belugas googles 21:06:42 <Gonozal_VIII> you don't know e85? 21:06:56 <batataxpto69> babel fish doesn't know wath is a sober 21:06:59 <Belugas> nope, otherwise, i would not be googling :S 21:07:02 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B37E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:07:03 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... wrong continent for that 21:07:05 <batataxpto69> and i don't know either 21:07:34 <Gonozal_VIII> that's gas with 85% ethanol in it 21:08:24 <batataxpto69> bjarni, wath is a sober 21:08:35 <batataxpto69> a guy that don't drink? 21:08:48 <glx> a guy with no alcohol in blood 21:08:53 <batataxpto69> ok 21:08:56 <Gonozal_VIII> ethanol is much cheaper than gas :-) 21:08:56 <batataxpto69> now i am 21:09:15 <batataxpto69> and i am usually 21:09:15 <Bjarni> <batataxpto69> a guy that don't drink? <-- no, that's a description of me 21:09:28 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't drink either 21:09:29 <batataxpto69> :D 21:09:36 <batataxpto69> ok ok 21:09:48 <Bjarni> or you could say: "a guy that don't drink" is always sober 21:09:54 <Belugas> thanks google and Gonozal_VIII 21:10:02 <Belugas> nope, nothing like that in here... 21:10:22 <Belugas> or not that i know of 21:10:26 <batataxpto69> saint google has always the answer 21:10:38 <glx> the answer is always 42 21:10:55 <batataxpto69> by the way 21:10:59 <batataxpto69> where you from? 21:11:07 <Gonozal_VIII> according to wikipedia, there's only one station in canada selling it 21:11:22 <Bjarni> glx: how much alcohol do you have in your blood right now (in â°)? 21:11:36 <glx> near 0 21:11:45 <Bjarni> <glx> the answer is always 42 21:12:15 <Bjarni> <batataxpto69> where you from? <-- my home town 21:12:47 <Belugas> [16:12] <Gonozal_VIII> according to wikipedia, there's only one station in canada selling it <--- might not be in my surrounding, for sure 21:12:59 <glx> Bjarni: but if the answer to this question was 42, I wouldn't be able to write here ;) 21:13:43 <Belugas> voice to text device? 21:14:12 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe, did you ever try to use that? 21:14:16 <batataxpto69> i quite 21:14:24 *** batataxpto69 [~vasco@89-180-62-40.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:14:44 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> hehe, did you ever try to use that? <-- according to bash.org it translate the sound of a fart into the word "France" 21:14:55 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 21:15:28 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?265532 21:15:37 <Bjarni> first thing that came up when searching for "France" 21:15:54 <Bjarni> makes you wonder about the French guys 21:16:00 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B040242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:22 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B040242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:17:37 <Bjarni> <Jesus> and i kept getting banned simply becuase i lived in france 21:17:39 <Bjarni> hahaha 21:17:57 <Bjarni> I should pick a country to kick 21:18:11 <Bjarni> how about Burma? 21:21:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> i vote for austria :p 21:21:17 <glx> let's ban .dk ;) 21:21:20 <Bjarni> ok 21:21:25 <Bjarni> .de it is 21:21:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> like that quote: "the last austrian we gave op tried to take over the world" 21:21:45 <Bjarni> .de is Denmark, right? 21:22:03 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, de is denmark, ban .de 21:22:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> do you know another country that starts with de? 21:22:27 <Bjarni> demonoid? 21:23:08 <bob27> ban the us:-D 21:23:09 <Bjarni> well some people acted like they lived there when they closed :P 21:23:42 <Bjarni> now I know... we ban .mil and .gov and then they will spend a while trying to figure out why we did so 21:24:06 <Bjarni> because whenever they lurk they can't decode our gaming talk into anything criminal 21:24:51 <Bjarni> on the other hand then they will waste time on us... time they should use to track down terrorists 21:24:58 <Bjarni> so by doing so we could help terrorists 21:25:07 <Bjarni> I guess such a ban is out of the question 21:27:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> hehe, german federal court decided that a group of people arrested for a prevented bombing attack may not be charged as a terroristic organisation (but rather as criminal organisation) 21:28:39 <Bjarni> you are helping terrorists? 21:28:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> because their actions could not lead to significant damage to a state or governmental organisation 21:28:59 <Bjarni> that's fucked up 21:29:09 <Bjarni> your anti terror laws are flawed 21:30:18 <Bjarni> here we convicted 3 people of terrorism. Then their attorney stated that they shouldn't be convicted because nobody had ever been convicted for having a homemade bomb before without actually using it 21:30:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> you mean we should rather install a high security prison on mallorca and put all souspicious looking people there without charging them? 21:31:06 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:31:11 <Bjarni> that's like saying that saying that it's legal to plan to shoot somebody because you shouldn't be jailed because nobody was jailed for using that type of gun before 21:31:59 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> you mean we should rather install a high security prison on mallorca and put all souspicious looking people there without charging them? <-- no, I mean having/making a bomb should be terrorism even if the target is say a station rather than a government building 21:32:28 * Belugas goes home and leave you in the good entertainment that provides his friend Bjarni. Enjoy 21:32:50 <Bjarni> heh 21:32:57 *** bob27 [~Robert@adsl-75-33-69-219.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has left #openttd [] 21:32:59 <Bjarni> like I intend to stay in this channel right now :P 21:33:02 <Bjarni> bbl 21:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i don't even really know what kind of bomb that was 21:33:25 <Bjarni> that doesn't matter 21:33:53 *** HerzogDeXtE1 is now known as HerzogDeXtEr 21:34:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> you don't usually get arrested for throwing a firecracker to a stone wall... 21:34:03 <Bjarni> it's not like type A is more criminal to use than type B if the result is the same: hurting/killing people 21:34:22 <Bjarni> a firecracker is not a bomb 21:34:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's the point, you can't charge people for attempting to kill people if the "bomb" was not meant to be able to kill 21:35:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> a firecracker _is_ a bomb... it explodes when you ignite it 21:36:33 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> that's the point, you can't charge people for attempting to kill people if the "bomb" was not meant to be able to kill <-- if they are arrested for possession of a bomb, then I presume that it's a bomb and then it's terrorism 21:37:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> according to german federal court, it is not... 21:38:00 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CCA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/militantegruppe2.html 21:39:00 <Gonozal_VIII> would be hard to tell where the line is between firecracker and bomb... what if you open op 10 firecrackers and pile up the powder? is that a bomb? or 100 of them? 21:40:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> if i read this correctly, they did not actually use bombs, but rather ignition triggers on cars 21:43:34 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489C09B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:45:16 <Gonozal_VIII> that's not terrorism, that's damaging property of the state... 21:45:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> exactly... 21:49:39 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-200-252.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:18:55 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB667F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:18:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F567AD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:52:02 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-215-3.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:53:56 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 23:04:07 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-134-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:04:15 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:28 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 23:04:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... my OTTD hangs with 15% map generated 23:05:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> "Leere, felsige Landschaft wird erzeugt" 23:05:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> "0 / 87488" 23:05:46 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> uses 90% CPU and does not react to kill 23:08:14 <Gonozal_VIII> leere, felsige landschaft wird erzeugt? how do you get to that? 23:09:23 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A66AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:09:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> 3271:STR_CLEARING_TILES :{BLACK}Leere, felsige Landschaft wird erzeugt 23:10:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> looks like a mistranslation though... 23:10:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> 3279:STR_CLEARING_TILES :{BLACK}Rough and rocky area generation 23:11:09 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-167-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> nobody ever notices because that step is probably over way too fast 23:11:13 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:11:16 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:12:20 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:12:29 <Gonozal_VIII> map generates without problems in 11542, what settings did you use? 23:13:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> nothing unusual... 2048x2048, arctic (alpine) 23:15:06 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm arctic 2048^2 has no problems either 23:16:08 <Gonozal_VIII> but switching to german reminds me why i decided to use english... so many strings are too long... 23:19:19 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-132.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:19:50 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:46 *** ludde [~ludde@ua-83-227-238-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:03 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:24:41 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:24:41 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:09 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-192.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:33:26 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 23:33:28 *** Grey_ [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-192.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 23:33:32 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-192.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:37:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> it seems to work fine after i deactivate alpine 23:38:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> ah, well, i'll play a temperate game for a change 23:39:41 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-7.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:34 <Bjarni> http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrissam42/224283054/ <--- hehe... "do not pass though closing doors"... that goes without saying but they decided on an interesting picture :) 23:41:44 <Bjarni> and now I will be sure not to do so 23:41:45 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-192.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:55 <Bjarni> I wouldn't want to get my tail jammed in the door XD 23:42:45 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-152-50-192.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:42:48 <Sacro> hehehe 23:42:53 <Sacro> autorenew is fubar 23:42:59 <Sacro> Bjarni: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=35084 23:44:11 <ln-> is there already an adult site with nude girls playing OpenTTD? 23:44:33 <Sacro> ln-: rule 34 23:44:40 <Bjarni> 42 23:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> is there already [...] girls playing OpenTTD? 23:44:54 <Sacro> Bjarni: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule+34 23:44:54 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: yes 23:44:57 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: yes 23:45:54 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: i see the problem, but some girls are willing to do strange things for money. (according to internet sources) 23:46:31 <orudge> 2girls1train? 23:47:05 <Bjarni> according to rule 34 there should be porn pictures of my bed.... wtf 23:47:23 <orudge> and you in it! 23:47:24 <orudge> muahaha 23:47:28 * orudge hides his secret collection 23:47:32 <Bjarni> no I'm not 23:47:39 <Bjarni> which makes me think... who is? 23:47:52 <orudge> bom bom bom 23:47:56 <orudge> tis Born_Acorn, probably 23:47:59 *** glx|away [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 23:48:08 <Bjarni> I have seen a nude girl posing on a steam locomotive 23:48:15 <Bjarni> well... pictures of it 23:48:16 <orudge> hmm 23:48:16 *** glx|away [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:16 <orudge> actually 23:48:21 <orudge> George's buses 23:48:23 <orudge> featured nude ladies 23:48:23 <Bjarni> some people thought it was funny 23:48:25 <orudge> that sort of counts, surely? 23:48:48 <Bjarni> my first thought was "what a dirty girl" 23:48:57 *** glx|away [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 23:49:16 *** glx is now known as Guest212 23:49:16 *** glx|away is now known as glx 23:50:38 <Bjarni> I'm thinking about rule 34.... and trying to find something sick enough to disprove it... I better stop because my mind is not wicked enough to come up with anything where I'm sure that nobody would do it as porn 23:51:19 <Bjarni> I mean... even if I say public group sex during the winter it will likely be out there somewhere 23:52:24 <Sacro> Bjarni: oh it is 23:52:25 <Bjarni> I saw a news blooper (from USA). Some news guy was talking to a guy shovelling snow (and there was a lot of it) and they were freezing and all of a sudden they are interrupted by a naked man dancing in the snow 23:52:26 <Sacro> err... 23:52:31 <Sacro> i'd think... 23:52:40 <Bjarni> Sacro: are you in it? 23:52:46 <Sacro> no 23:53:47 <Bjarni> I think it was funny with that named man because he had to move really quickly because it was so cold and those guy warmly dressed guys just stared at him with a wtf look on their faces and the TV guy said something about "some people are really crazy" 23:53:51 *** Guest212 [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:15 <Bjarni> I hope that this guy got really ill afterwards... would serve him right 23:55:24 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A66AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [ZZZzzzz.] 23:55:35 <Bjarni> http://youtube.com/watch?v=hT1iqvQN0Ho <-- found it 23:55:40 <Bjarni> it's even live :D 23:57:41 <Sacro> hehe 23:58:55 <Sacro> Bjarni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTpf6JRtigo