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00:10:50 *** TheBlasphemer [TB@s5593f0f9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 00:28:29 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-21.no.ventelo.net] has left #openttd [] 00:29:10 *** TallOak_ [~cjfd3@furry.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 00:30:23 *** TallOak [~cjfd3@furry.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:30:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:47:49 <BigBB> Comments to http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1564 ? 00:50:43 <Gonozal_VIII> yay :-) 00:50:56 <Gonozal_VIII> newwater is nice but the missing shores suck 00:54:58 <Digitalfox> Gonozal_VIII: Well that's what the BigBB patch also do if i'm not mistaken, or i might not understanded what you mean :| 00:55:26 <Gonozal_VIII> that's why i wrote yay 01:00:51 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip68-106-54-76.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:01:36 <BigBB> Digitalfox: in a second step (and patch) it will fix it, yes. This patch only include the possibility to show this (corner shores) alternatively with original or newGRF sprites. Also it fix a main 05-0D problem (the think what frosch wrote) 01:02:15 <BigBB> s/think/thing 01:03:39 <Digitalfox> It's a nice work BigBB :) 01:03:47 <BigBB> Thanks :) 01:03:50 <Digitalfox> I love your patch :) 01:10:00 <murr4y> :) 01:10:54 *** Gonozal_VIII_ [~Gonozal_V@N959P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 01:16:47 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N916P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:31:14 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11652 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: add the svn $ header for several files 01:36:20 *** Gonozal_VIII_ is now known as Gonozal_VIII 01:37:37 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7743E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:13 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N959P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48:16 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-128-148.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 01:55:15 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-203-30.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:55:17 <UnderBuilder> smatz a dev? 01:55:31 *** laz0r [~laz0r@port-87-234-143-215.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 01:56:40 <SmatZ> UnderBuilder yes... 01:57:24 <UnderBuilder> who more has been made a dev? 01:58:44 <SmatZ> skidd13 01:59:44 <SmatZ> why 01:59:45 <SmatZ> ? 02:01:53 <UnderBuilder> I was a bit outdated 02:02:05 <UnderBuilder> last one I noticed was maedhros 02:03:30 <SmatZ> UnderBuilder: I am just asking if you are not some of master OTTD dev under some unknown nickname :-) 02:04:12 <UnderBuilder> no, I have no connection with any developer of openttd 02:04:20 <UnderBuilder> I'm a casual player :S 02:05:12 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-128-148.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:13:31 <BigBB> hmm, maedhros is a dev since over a year IIRC, so you are very outdated UnderBuilder :) 02:14:22 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-2.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:26:48 <Sacro> http://www.1chan.net/rail/src/1197785241515.jpg 02:28:02 <BigBB> Sacro: a nice new feature :) 02:28:31 <Sacro> BigBB: indeed 02:28:34 <Sacro> actually 02:28:37 <Sacro> thats more like a desync 02:29:14 <Sacro> http://www.1chan.net/rail/src/1197768211952.jpg 02:41:27 <kyevan> Sacro: Er... oops >_> 02:41:39 <Sacro> heh :p 02:44:34 <BigBB> I was sur I can drive drunken... 02:44:36 <BigBB> :)) 02:44:48 <BigBB> s/sur/sure 02:57:09 <kyevan> The first looks like what you get on #openttdcoop on a bad day, actually :P 03:01:02 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B39E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:01:25 *** UnderBuilder is now known as Cats 03:01:30 <Cats> how are you gentlemen!! 03:01:37 <Cats> all your base are belong to us 03:01:45 <Cats> you are on the way to destruction 03:01:55 <Cats> you have no chance to survive make your time 03:01:57 <Cats> hahahaha 03:02:02 *** Cats is now known as UnderBuilder 03:02:08 <UnderBuilder> oh no! 03:02:17 <UnderBuilder> take off every 'zig'! 03:02:24 <UnderBuilder> for great justice! 03:02:49 * kyevan sets UnderBuilder on fire 03:03:13 *** Zothar [~zothar@adsl-67-64-157-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 03:03:38 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489E6E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:30 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.209] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 03:08:02 *** TallOak [~cjfd3@furry.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 03:13:57 *** TallOak_ [~cjfd3@furry.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:28:47 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:31:47 <laz0r> are there servers where you can build cool 'networks' cooperativly? 03:32:18 <laz0r> or is it standard behaviour to just destroy everything as soon as someone attempts to make a 'coop company' 03:32:50 <laz0r> that is, opening a game and not setting a password (both the game and the company) 03:33:06 <laz0r> as you may guess, i already tried 03:33:46 <glx> well, there are lame users everywhere 03:34:13 <glx> and the only way to prevent this is game password and company password 03:34:18 <glx> even for coop games 03:34:33 <laz0r> i had hoped the amount of lame users would be minimal enough with a game like openttd 03:34:48 <laz0r> but it seems the community is more 'active' then i thought 03:35:01 <laz0r> which is of course also a good thing 03:35:26 <laz0r> btw. i just started playing the game two days ago 03:40:52 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-151-36.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:49:52 *** G [~njones@202-154-151-36.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 03:58:27 *** G [~njones@202-154-151-36.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:18 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:03:22 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timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:44 <Leviathan> ;o 10:51:53 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:47 <Svish> i tried to go into the multiplayer thingy, but I get version missmatch. probably because I have a nightly... but where can I see what version i need? is it standard stable version? or is it random kinda? should say what version I need instead of just version missmatch... =/ 10:55:14 <Sionide> depends on the server 10:55:27 <Sionide> it says in the multiplayer screen which servers are running which versions 10:55:49 <Sionide> some of the run latest stable, some latest nightly build, some a recent nightly build 10:59:50 <Leviathan> where r the openttd settings stored 11:00:04 <Leviathan> i just setup a folder with nightly, custom settings, grfs 11:00:12 <Leviathan> copyed it over 11:00:16 <Leviathan> and settings didnt copy 11:02:01 <Sionide> on windows? 11:02:10 <Leviathan> ya 11:02:13 <Svish> ok 11:02:16 <Sionide> well it's in the openttd.cfg file 11:02:30 <Leviathan> which is where 11:02:42 <Sionide> should be in the root dir of openttd 11:02:47 <Leviathan> its not 11:02:57 <Sionide> i don't know then 11:02:59 <Leviathan> well it is 11:03:03 <Leviathan> in my Program Files\OpenTTD 11:03:08 <Leviathan> thats the stable version 11:03:14 <Leviathan> but ive loaded the nightly from the desktop 11:03:26 <Leviathan> it must be using the one from the stable ver... and not from its own dir 11:04:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N817P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:05:21 <Leviathan> err 11:05:30 <Gonozal_VIII> rr 11:05:55 <Leviathan> this makes no sence 11:06:01 <Gonozal_VIII> ok 11:06:18 <Leviathan> im loading the nightly 11:06:26 <Gonozal_VIII> yay 11:06:29 <Leviathan> i dont know which .cfg file its using for its settings 11:06:37 <Leviathan> cuz i want to copy the dir over lan 11:06:40 <Gonozal_VIII> the one in its folder 11:06:43 <Leviathan> nope 11:06:51 <Leviathan> it was using the one from Program Files\OpenTTD 11:06:57 <Leviathan> from the stable, but not ive uninstalled that 11:07:06 <Leviathan> there is no .cfg in either folder 11:07:11 <Gonozal_VIII> then there is no cfg in the dir 11:07:12 <Leviathan> but its using the custom settings i just set up 11:07:13 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 11:07:39 <Gonozal_VIII> when there is no cfg in the dir it will use the global one 11:07:58 <Gonozal_VIII> copy it there 11:08:26 <Leviathan> where is the global one 11:08:36 <Gonozal_VIII> [12:06:51] Leviathan: it was using the one from Program Files\OpenTTD 11:08:39 <Leviathan> nop 11:08:43 <Leviathan> i just uninstalled that 11:08:43 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:08:47 <Leviathan> there is no cfg in that folder 11:08:50 <pavel1269> hi 11:08:51 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm not program files... 11:08:56 <Gonozal_VIII> that's install dir 11:08:58 *** Tino|R152 [~tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 11:09:07 <Gonozal_VIII> look in "my documents" 11:09:16 <Gonozal_VIII> hi pavel 11:09:36 <Svish> what do you guys recommend when it comes to servicing? 11:09:45 <Svish> my trains seem to break down alot... :p 11:09:53 <Leviathan> ty 11:10:04 <Svish> is it because I dont have enough depots around? 11:10:05 <Leviathan> ok im using the nightly 11:10:10 <Leviathan> and the ECS 11:10:19 <Gonozal_VIII> i have 75 days and add a "service at x depot" order to the orders 11:10:23 <Leviathan> nightly instead of beta2 as beta2 has prob with ECS 11:10:29 <Leviathan> what do u suggest 11:10:35 <Leviathan> use nightly or stable? 11:10:40 <Leviathan> as i want to use ECS 11:10:44 <Gonozal_VIII> nightly is fine 11:10:52 <Svish> Gonozal_VIII: ok, so you both turn the interval down and use orders? 11:10:54 <Leviathan> k 11:11:10 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 11:11:27 <Gonozal_VIII> sometimes i also force trains into a depot 11:11:32 <Svish> ok 11:11:39 <Svish> where do you usually have depots? 11:11:43 <Gonozal_VIII> (depot order without service or no rail around it) 11:11:53 <Gonozal_VIII> before the loading station 11:11:53 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-136-235.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:11:55 <Svish> at the moment I try to keep them on the mainline... 11:12:25 <Leviathan> ty 11:12:26 <Gonozal_VIII> mainline is not very good unless the trains have enough space to slow down 11:12:31 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:12:33 <Svish> yeah, they have 11:12:47 <Svish> i used to have one by every station before, but that caused some prolems...hehe 11:13:02 <Svish> cause other trains would randomly go to a depot they shouldnt go to 11:13:10 <Gonozal_VIII> they don 11:13:12 <Gonozal_VIII> t 11:13:17 <Gonozal_VIII> do that with service at 11:13:25 <Gonozal_VIII> they only use that depot for service then 11:13:32 <Svish> ah ok 11:13:56 <Svish> and how do i do that? just use the orders, Go To, and click on the depot I want? 11:14:02 <Gonozal_VIII> they get lost easily when they choose a random depot 11:14:08 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 11:14:10 <Svish> yeah, exactly 11:14:20 <Gonozal_VIII> click on the depot and then activate service at 11:15:13 <Svish> activate service at? 11:15:19 *** Vikthor [novotv6@pc404-50.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 11:15:29 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, like you would activate full lload 11:15:32 <Gonozal_VIII> -l 11:15:35 <Svish> oh 11:15:39 <Svish> havent seen that button... 11:15:51 <Gonozal_VIII> it only exists for depots 11:15:54 <Svish> ah ok 11:15:57 <Svish> cool :) 11:16:06 <Svish> thanks for the tips, will definatly try it out :) 11:16:27 <Svish> will start a new game soon... gotten to 2070 something in the current one... time to let go... lol 11:16:53 <Gonozal_VIII> you could also set the default service interval to 0 (no service at all) and add a depot order without "service at" to every vehicle 11:18:17 <Gonozal_VIII> that will force them to service there everytime not only when they need servicing 11:18:33 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:18:38 <Leviathan> are large maps unstable? 11:19:00 <Leviathan> gets stuck at 53% when trying to create 2048x2048 11:19:08 <Gonozal_VIII> they can run slow or even desync in multiplayer under certain conditions but not unstable... 11:19:27 <Gonozal_VIII> industry creation with ecs on huge maps can take a while 11:20:25 <Gonozal_VIII> you can try with a lower industry setting, most of them will close down anyways if you can't connect them in the first 5-10 years 11:21:05 <Leviathan> ah 11:21:13 <Leviathan> well ive set it to low industry/town 11:21:38 <Leviathan> is 1024x1024 a better idea then? 11:21:39 <Gonozal_VIII> is it really stuck or does it only count industries slowly? 11:21:51 <Leviathan> its not stoped.. its just going uber slow, even on quad core 11:22:03 <Gonozal_VIII> cores don't help 11:22:07 <Leviathan> it ziped to 53% now its goin well slow 11:22:09 <Leviathan> ya clearly 11:22:10 <Leviathan> so 11:22:11 <Gonozal_VIII> openttd only uses one core 11:22:12 <Leviathan> is 1024x1024 a better idea then? 11:22:23 <Leviathan> i dont want desync 11:22:47 <Gonozal_VIII> it's only a problem for map generation not while the game is running 11:23:03 <Leviathan> so setup dedicated ? 11:23:19 <Leviathan> and what about map size? 11:23:25 <Gonozal_VIII> that also has to generate a map... 11:23:40 <Leviathan> yea 11:23:51 <ln-> i'm back 11:23:54 <Leviathan> ok 11:23:57 <Leviathan> so ur saying 11:23:59 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't try 2048^2 multiplayer 11:24:03 <Leviathan> it will take time to generate a map 11:24:09 <Leviathan> but will be fine once generated 11:24:13 <Leviathan> so no need for dedi 11:24:16 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 11:24:19 <Leviathan> ok 11:24:21 <Leviathan> and desync 11:24:27 <Leviathan> 1024 best idea? 11:24:42 <Gonozal_VIII> 1024 should work fine 11:26:11 <Leviathan> ok started generateing a 1024 map 11:29:30 <Gonozal_VIII> the industries have strict placement 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like the colours i had before, now the trees look stupid.. bah i don't like grf stuff 12:43:32 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:51 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has joined #openttd 12:54:57 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:58:37 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N817P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:12:47 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 13:13:15 <LevQuad> on ecs 13:13:22 <LevQuad> how do i transport wood products 13:13:24 <LevQuad> ? 13:15:04 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16:24 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 13:18:53 <Progman> you need additional newgrfs for new trains or vehicles or sth. 13:18:56 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit 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http://www.ewetel.net/~michael.blunck/ttd/download.html 13:25:24 <LevQuad> DBXL ECS extension 13:25:25 <LevQuad> ty 13:25:26 <SmatZ> y do u luv meh? 13:26:31 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 13:27:33 <LevQuad> it blue 13:27:35 <LevQuad> not green 13:27:37 <LevQuad> in grf list 13:27:42 <LevQuad> after ia add and apply? 13:29:17 <kyevan> Hmm. Is there a way to zoom in further? (Double the size of each tile, or so) without just using a lower resolution? 13:29:28 <LevQuad> Priski 13:29:30 <LevQuad> Progman 13:29:31 <LevQuad> even 13:29:35 *** LevQuad is now known as lev400 13:30:33 <Progman> lev400: you got the dbxl set? 13:30:36 <lev400> ya 13:30:39 <lev400> dbxl_ecs.grf 13:30:43 <lev400> i put in grf folder 13:30:45 <lev400> load save game 13:30:50 <Progman> and the dbxl set itself 13:30:51 <lev400> goto newgrf settings 13:30:53 <lev400> oh? 13:30:56 <lev400> ty 13:31:10 <Progman> its only extends the dbxl set by waggons for ecs 13:31:49 <lev400> dbxl_ecs.grf and dbsetxlw.grf 13:32:04 <Progman> yes 13:32:07 <lev400> k 13:32:48 <lev400> it crashs it :( 13:33:05 <Progman> it crashs, what did you do? 13:33:11 <lev400> loaded XL 13:33:15 <lev400> in grf list 13:33:21 <Progman> on a loaded game? 13:33:22 <lev400> add to selection 13:33:23 <lev400> ua 13:33:24 <lev400> ya 13:33:30 <Progman> you can't do this 13:33:31 <lev400> i have to start over? 13:33:34 <lev400> lol 13:33:38 <lev400> we just been playing 13:33:41 <lev400> with ECS etc 13:33:48 <lev400> and didnt know we needed new wagons 13:33:52 <Progman> some newgrfs can only be used at startup 13:33:55 <lev400> dam ECS page dosent have enough info 13:34:01 <lev400> i didnt know 13:34:12 <lev400> well thats that game unless 13:34:17 <lev400> useless* 13:34:20 <Progman> as the dbset "delete" all other trains and replace them by new ones 13:34:25 <lev400> ya 13:35:20 <lev400> :( 13:35:23 * kyevan 's taken to using the windows magnifier when he's playing >_> 13:35:35 <kyevan> The things are just too darn small otherwise :P 13:41:22 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:41:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:43:43 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-254-245.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:49:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i577B61E1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:55:23 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:55:38 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:56:32 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7D22A.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:58:32 <Svish> kyevan: use a lower resolution and go fullscreen instead :p thats what I do at least... hehe 14:05:15 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7007.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt] 14:27:33 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:45:11 <Leviathan> im using dbset with ecs 14:45:24 <Leviathan> what happens when i want to use monorail and maglev? 14:45:30 <Leviathan> can i move the new cargo? 14:49:55 <glx> I think you can only move passengers, tourists and goods with monorail/maglev and dbset 14:53:07 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:53:39 * Brianetta parsed what glx said wrongly 14:53:46 *** G [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:53:49 <Sacro> hmm 14:53:51 <Brianetta> ("what, you can't move them with steam?") 14:53:57 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 14:53:57 <Sacro> !logs 14:54:13 <glx> Brianetta: sorry ;) 14:54:27 <Brianetta> glx: Didn't take me long to cath() that and re-parse 14:54:30 <Brianetta> catch 14:55:45 <glx> should I have said "move only" instead ? 14:56:29 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:56:29 <Brianetta> yes 14:56:46 *** G [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 14:56:47 <Brianetta> disambiguates only 14:57:42 <Brianetta> thing is, many grammatically correct sentences in English are ambiguous outside of their context. 14:58:19 <Brianetta> No doubt if I'd joined earlier and seen what you were responding to, it wouldn't have been noticeable 14:59:26 <Brianetta> Man, it's getting dark already 14:59:39 <Sacro> yeah :( 14:59:42 <Brianetta> The lattitude here isnoticeable near the solstices 15:00:02 <Sacro> Brianetta: i'll enjoy my few minutes extra :) 15:00:25 <Brianetta> You probably only get about one minute at each end 15:00:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:00:34 <Sacro> probably 15:17:43 *** bam__ [~bam@p5B01D589.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:57 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 15:20:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i577B61E1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:20:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i577B61E1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:20:47 *** G [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:59 *** Tino|R152 [~tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 15:30:40 <bam__> !password 15:30:40 *** bam__ was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 15:34:14 <Leviathan> oh god 15:34:20 <Leviathan> i need ECS vechs 15:34:26 <Leviathan> and have to start again i take it 15:34:38 <Leviathan> Progman ? 15:35:23 <Svish> ecs? 15:37:34 <Leviathan> Extended cargo schema 15:37:58 <Leviathan> i got trains that can transport the new cargos 15:38:05 <Leviathan> but no road vechs 15:38:08 <Leviathan> i forgot 15:38:37 <glx> Leviathan: try lv4 15:39:54 <Leviathan> that just ships? 15:45:25 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-105-203-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 15:45:30 <Draakon> hi guys 15:45:35 <glx> lv4 contains only road vehicles 15:45:52 <Draakon> what is the flyspray address? :P 15:46:02 <glx> look at the topic :) 15:46:11 <Draakon> k 15:53:06 <Draakon> has anyone got this bug too: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1569 15:53:09 <Draakon> ?? 15:53:20 <Leviathan> erm 15:53:25 *** G [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 15:53:33 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:58:03 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has left #openttd [] 15:58:20 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:45 <Leviathan> Generic Road Vehicle set works 16:02:34 <Draakon> ? 16:05:38 <Leviathan> for ecs 16:08:40 <Draakon> articulated vehicles; what this means? :P 16:10:40 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@77.60.199.137] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:10:59 <xintron> http://xintron.myminicity.com/ 16:14:47 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-87-79-249-111.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 16:19:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:21:27 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-218-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:22:14 <dihedral> hey ho 16:22:19 <xintron> lets go 16:27:16 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 16:27:26 <Draakon> is there a patch that disables industries to close, no matter of what? 16:28:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, comment out the appropriate line in industry_cmd.cpp 16:29:14 <dihedral> :-P 16:29:16 <dihedral> lol 16:31:21 *** gege [~jo-reggel@static-81-17-185-44.dunaweb.hu] has joined #openttd 16:31:23 <Draakon> what line? 16:31:24 <Draakon> :P 16:31:30 <gege> good day guys 16:31:39 <gege> i have a little problem 16:31:51 <SmatZ> Draakon: I think there is some variable "closeit" ... 16:31:53 <gege> my remoted server are lagging 16:31:55 <gege> very bad 16:32:02 <gege> any idea 16:32:11 <gege> my home net 512 cable 16:32:12 <Draakon> but i want patch! 16:32:19 <Draakon> as i know there should be one 16:32:27 <gege> my remoted serv run at 10mb/s 16:32:32 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N817P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 16:33:14 <Draakon> pls post your server CFG 16:33:44 <dihedral> gege - you have ships? 16:33:56 <dihedral> Draakon: then comment the line and make a patch 16:34:09 <Draakon> oeh 16:34:10 <gege> yes but i have ships in my last games and theres no lag 16:34:21 <dihedral> how many? 16:34:24 <Draakon> can you post your CFG? 16:34:32 <gege> one minute 16:34:41 <dihedral> remove the rcon pass first :-P 16:34:43 <Draakon> upload cfg file somewhere 16:35:24 <dihedral> do you have lags when playing on other servers or just yours? 16:35:54 <dihedral> and does your console say something like 'client x is slow, try increasing net_fram_freq'? 16:36:05 <dihedral> *frame 16:38:21 <gege> yes theres this message you write but only in this server and only in this map 16:38:25 <gege> want my savegame? 16:38:37 <dihedral> nope 16:38:42 <dihedral> is that your client id? 16:38:54 <gege> ?? 16:38:59 <dihedral> client x is slow 16:39:10 <gege> yes only me conecting now 16:39:17 <Draakon> im looking at the cfg file now 16:39:36 <dihedral> how many ships do you have? 16:39:44 <gege> me only 2 i think 16:39:51 <gege> but in the serv about 100 16:39:58 <dihedral> using yapf? 16:40:03 <dihedral> for ships i mean 16:40:20 <gege> 85+23+6 ships 16:40:46 <gege> yes 16:40:54 <dihedral> then dont worry looking any further 16:40:55 <Draakon> cfg seems to be fine, that one you sent 16:41:15 <dihedral> forget the cfg - he said his ships use yapf and he has 100 of them 16:41:20 <Draakon> are you sure you sent your servers cfg? 16:41:26 <dihedral> :-P 16:41:28 <dihedral> lol 16:41:28 <gege> turn off the yapf for ships? 16:41:37 <Draakon> dihedral: there are many things that make servers and games lag 16:41:39 <dihedral> would be an idea :-P 16:41:55 <Draakon> and one of the ways are in CFG 16:41:56 <dihedral> Draakon: yes - and that is one of them 16:41:58 <Draakon> k i must go 16:42:11 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-105-203-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Bye all!] 16:42:59 <Gonozal_VIII> ships would need a recalculate path button and use the same path again until you press it 16:43:05 <gege> how can i turn it off when the server running? 16:43:24 <gege> any console command? 16:43:41 <dihedral> patch ship_use_yapf 0 16:43:45 <dihedral> or for rcon 16:43:56 <gege> oh is see 16:43:58 <gege> thank 16:43:59 <dihedral> rcon <pass> "patch ship_use_yapf 0" 16:44:08 <dihedral> or something along those lines 16:45:41 <gege> thats works fine great thank you 16:46:21 <dihedral> aw - just wish Draakon were here to see that line :-P 16:46:22 <gege> rcon <pass> "patch yapf.ship_use_yapf 0" 16:46:33 <gege> thats the right command 16:46:34 <dihedral> yes - looks like it :-P 16:48:17 <dihedral> btw - it will be wise over long distances to use a bunch of buoys for ships... i.e. every 20 - 30 tiles or so 16:48:41 <dihedral> and then reference them in the goto orders 16:48:54 <dihedral> makes path-finding a bit less intense 16:49:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:51:45 <gege> any more tricks to make a server faster? 16:52:09 <dihedral> yes - read wiki.openttd.org :-) 16:52:34 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-192-066.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:37 <gege> i read it many times but too big for me and i have only limited time beacuse my work and my darling:D 16:58:49 <dihedral> yes - but that aint anything special here to be honest :-P 16:59:11 <dihedral> and in all fairness - there is a 'search' function 16:59:56 <gege> There is no page titled "server lag". You can create this page. 16:59:56 <gege> For more information about searching OpenTTD, see Searching OpenTTD. 16:59:56 <gege> Showing below up to 20 results starting with #1. 17:00:26 <gege> There is no page titled "lag". You can create this page. 17:00:26 <gege> For more information about searching OpenTTD, see Searching OpenTTD. 17:00:26 <gege> Showing below 0 results starting with #1. 17:00:30 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F54222.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:01:04 <gege> if i know the problem are the yapf at boats i easy find the way how to solve 17:01:22 <dihedral> you are not telling me that you are seriously that incapable of finding help on the web :-P 17:01:42 <gege> but if i only know theres a lag and i dunno why its taking many time 17:03:21 <dihedral> have you heared of tt-forums.net? 17:03:59 <gege> no never sorry 17:04:02 <gege> :) 17:04:05 <gege> just a joke 17:04:08 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A65B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:11 <gege> thank for your help 17:04:15 <skidd13> Hi folsk 17:04:26 <dihedral> hello skidd13 17:04:28 <skidd13> :%s /folsk/folks/ 17:04:30 <gege> yes i have many way to find whats the problem 17:04:41 <dihedral> :-P 17:04:49 <dihedral> forget about it :-) 17:04:57 <gege> the #openttd chanel is one and i now choose this 17:05:03 <gege> thats a good choice:D 17:05:04 <dihedral> though searching the forums and the wiki for a bit more than one term could be a hint 17:10:52 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 17:11:05 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54222.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:13:10 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:17:47 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:29:18 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-129-19.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:01 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:19 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:41:01 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:41:49 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:42:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:46:13 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:47:35 <Sacro> hehee, dutch is funn 17:47:37 <Sacro> +y 17:47:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:48:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-129-19.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:54:05 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8177E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:54:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:55:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:41 <kyevan> Svish: But I dun wanna go full-screen :( 18:13:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F80B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:39 <kyevan> Hmm. Why are desync errors fatal? Couldn't it just pause, resync to the server (If the server is wrong, it's wrong for good :P) and keep playing? 18:16:17 <Gonozal_VIII> that could be used to annoy other players 18:16:24 *** taskland [arr@tyskland.rot.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 18:16:36 <Gonozal_VIII> desync on purpose and let the others wait... 18:16:38 <taskland> hello people of the internts, i need some help 18:17:03 <taskland> we are on lan and cant create a server with the latest version 18:17:11 <taskland> it crashes when somebody tries to join :( 18:17:24 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: And desyncing on purpose and dumping them all to the menu can't be used to annoy them? >_> 18:17:48 <Gonozal_VIII> only the server admin can do that and he could also shut the server down... 18:17:54 <taskland> : / 18:17:55 <taskland> help 18:18:12 <Gonozal_VIII> crashes how? 18:19:00 <Gonozal_VIII> and what is the "latest version" 18:19:29 <taskland> the latest nightly 18:19:39 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Oh? I've seen players trigger desyncs on command. Usually with prospecting going wrong. 18:19:39 <dihedral> then take a nightly before that :-) 18:19:43 <taskland> but both the latest beta and the latest nightly crashes 18:19:59 <taskland> we downloaded the openttd-coop-grf-pack 18:20:06 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 18:20:11 <taskland> and that is probably the reason 18:20:13 <Gonozal_VIII> players can trigger desyncs for other players? they should only desync themselves then 18:20:41 <Gonozal_VIII> downloading the grf pack doesn't change anything 18:21:30 <taskland> if we dont load any new gfx it works 18:22:08 <Gonozal_VIII> try to find out what grf causes it 18:22:41 <taskland> kk 18:24:48 <Gonozal_VIII> kyevan, you say that players can influence the server to dump other players? 18:29:08 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Sometimes prospecting causes a desync, it seems 18:29:27 <kyevan> It dumps ALL players, including the one who caused the problem, of course. 18:30:21 <glx> then it's a bug 18:30:29 <Gonozal_VIII> a 18:30:33 <Gonozal_VIII> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1561 18:30:55 <dihedral> yep 18:31:01 <dihedral> hat that for a while on openttdcoop 18:31:57 <Gonozal_VIII> good that prospecting is expensive so you can't just join and do that again and again 18:32:37 <Gonozal_VIII> unless there is a rich, not passworded company 18:35:02 <kyevan> Why can't we build joined airports? :( 18:35:11 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: Like on coop :P 18:36:10 <glx> dihedral: using any grfs? 18:36:43 <Gonozal_VIII> airports are limited in many ways and that's good because planes generate lots of money without any work involved 18:37:07 <dihedral> glx - standard openttdcoop games 18:37:10 <dihedral> yes - they use grf's 18:37:36 <dihedral> and it desyncs everybody when anybody prospers an ind. 18:37:51 <glx> because I can't desync with standard industries 18:38:20 <Gonozal_VIII> switch to "as other industries" until the bug is found/fixed? 18:39:02 <dihedral> glx - as far as i know no new indu is loaded 18:39:23 <dihedral> see for yourself :-) http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/public-server/ 18:39:53 <kyevan> Gonozal: But the lack of helipads at airports is annoying, I want to add on a helistation! :( 18:40:05 <taskland> hello again. we found the error. but now we have another problem 18:40:20 <taskland> it says that some strings are not defined in the .lng file 18:40:23 <taskland> and crashes 18:40:31 <kyevan> Helis (or blimps, if you have 'em) are nearly the only way to actually get valuables out of towns. 18:40:35 * dihedral slaps taksland :-) 18:40:36 <taskland> is there any way of solving that? 18:40:49 <dihedral> copy the lang directory rather than just an exe? 18:40:59 <glx> dihedral: AlpineClimate V0.21 18.05.06 <-- and you say no indu grfs ? 18:41:03 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-87-79-249-111.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:41:25 <taskland> dihedral: im pretty sure i have. but ill recompile and try again 18:41:42 <dihedral> glx: i am not that familiar with the grf's and did not think that the apline thingy used newIndu 18:41:44 <Gonozal_VIII> you said you use the nightly... they are precompiled 18:42:45 <Gonozal_VIII> [19:40:31] kyevan: Helis (or blimps, if you have 'em) are nearly the only way to actually get valuables out of towns. <-- drive through lorry bays 18:43:10 <Gonozal_VIII> or freight trams... 18:43:11 <kyevan> Not very helpful when 'drive throughs allowed on town roads' is off. 18:43:56 <Gonozal_VIII> that's a bad setting... place a piece of track over the road 18:44:31 <dihedral> :-P 18:44:42 <dihedral> is it set like that on the coop game kyevan 18:44:52 <kyevan> Gonozal_VIII: If it's so bad, why's it the default? :P And I know it's allowed in coop 18:44:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:18 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:32 <taskland> dihedral: you were correct. thank you very much :) 18:45:39 <Gonozal_VIII> it's default because it's original... well original game didn't have drive through but... i don't know^^ 18:47:13 <Gonozal_VIII> but the piece of track thing works... if you're fast enough 18:49:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:51:04 <dihedral> glx: what does the alpine set do with indus? 18:51:13 <dihedral> i thought it only did the snowing part etc. 18:51:36 <glx> it makes temperate industries available in arctic 18:52:13 <dihedral> ok - but that still uses normal industry behaviour - no? 18:52:20 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe a poblem with farms and snow? 18:52:23 <dihedral> as opposed to new Industries 18:52:47 <glx> it uses new industries features to do that 18:53:02 <dihedral> if it were an issue with farms, the result would harldy be in 'everybody' desyncing apon prospering? 18:53:08 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-129-19.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:53:13 <dihedral> ah - ok 18:53:24 <dihedral> good to know 18:53:36 <Gonozal_VIII> if it's placed on the server but not on the clients... but why should it do that 18:54:04 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:33 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: brb] 18:54:49 <Gonozal_VIII> or it tries to place it on the server, doesn't work, random seed is changed but clients do nothing because it didn't work? 18:55:50 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 18:56:38 *** skidd13 is now known as Guest550 18:56:38 *** skidd14 [~skidd13@p548A57FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:56:38 *** skidd14 is now known as skidd13 18:58:53 <glx> dihedral: current coop game desync or not? 19:00:42 *** Guest550 [~skidd13@p548A65B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:02:12 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-183-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:40 <dihedral> glx: i have seen the current game desyncing 19:05:45 <dihedral> all at once :-P 19:05:58 *** Gonozal_VIII_ [~Gonozal_V@N929P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:07:00 <dihedral> Friggin: "an insanely intelligent word used by only those cultured enough to know it." 19:07:08 <dihedral> i like that definition :-) 19:07:14 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-186-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:21 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:09:43 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:59 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:11:02 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N817P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:51 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25:27 *** G [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:40 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 19:27:06 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:29:35 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:30:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-182-242.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:32:33 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-136-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:41 *** G [~njones@202-154-154-147.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 19:38:14 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-183-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:42 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:39:02 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:40:10 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:44:22 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:45:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:46:42 *** Leviathan_ [~Leviathan@cpc1-port6-0-0-cust255.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:52:57 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:12 <Sacro> http://www.1chan.net/rail/src/1197913833116.png 19:56:46 <SmatZ> :-D 19:57:08 <Gonozal_VIII_> baaad sacro 19:57:47 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII_: not me 19:58:05 <dihedral> http://dissfunktional.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/detention-for-using-firefox.png 19:58:08 <Gonozal_VIII_> but that's good timing with the screenshot... 19:58:58 *** Leviathan_ [~Leviathan@cpc1-port6-0-0-cust255.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:26 <Gonozal_VIII_> foxfire.exe^^ 20:00:20 *** kbrooks [~kbrooks@d235-130-238.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:01:22 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:01:28 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:01:47 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 20:07:30 <Prof_Frink> Bah, real people create lives in the fireball 20:08:07 <Gonozal_VIII_> wtf? 20:09:50 <Prof_Frink> You probably can't do it in open 20:10:10 <Prof_Frink> Basically, two huge pax trains (ttdalter'd) 20:10:20 <Prof_Frink> Overflowed the casualty counter 20:11:05 <Svish> lol @ detention for using firefox :p 20:11:06 <Gonozal_VIII_> but it should be unsigned so no negative casualties possible... 20:11:08 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:11:46 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:13:25 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII_: http://tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=10363 20:14:00 <Gonozal_VIII_> ok.... that's strange 20:15:05 <dihedral> that is awsome :-P 20:15:14 <dihedral> world has 700 more pop after crash 20:15:21 <dihedral> sounds like 'the sun' or something 20:15:22 <Svish> brilliant 20:15:23 <Svish> lol 20:16:03 <Gonozal_VIII_> that would require dead people being substracted from town populations... 20:16:39 <Gonozal_VIII_> hmmm zombies!!!! 20:18:18 <dihedral> shawn of the dead 20:18:28 <Gonozal_VIII_> hehehe 20:19:25 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A57FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt] 20:19:35 <SmatZ> Prof_Frink: -762? 20:19:42 <SmatZ> do you have that before-crash save? 20:19:55 <SmatZ> ahh... it is TTD 20:20:15 <Prof_Frink> (patch) 20:20:15 <SmatZ> Svish: it is Foxfire :-P 20:21:21 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 20:25:29 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 20:26:03 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 20:28:42 *** gege [~jo-reggel@static-81-17-185-44.dunaweb.hu] has quit [] 20:29:46 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:39 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:22 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:37:21 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest556 20:37:21 *** Wolf01|AWAY [~wolf01@host228-237-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:37:21 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 20:39:16 <dihedral> notice from the school where that firefox thingy was: "to replace Mr. Charles Smith who has resigned" 20:39:29 <dihedral> that was the teacher who had signed the letter 20:39:44 <dihedral> http://dissfunktional.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/detention-for-using-firefox.png 20:39:46 <Svish> SmatZ: is that something else than firefox? 20:41:38 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has left #openttd [] 20:43:07 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@workstation.freenull.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:14 *** Guest556 [~wolf01@host137-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:43:18 <Gonozal_VIII_> Foxfire (bioluminescence), the glow from a forest fungus <-- he was eating glowing funghi in class 20:44:29 <SpComb> high school <3 20:45:09 <SmatZ> :-D 20:45:17 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-136-235.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:45:17 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 20:50:42 <dihedral> good night 20:50:57 <Gonozal_VIII_> night 20:54:45 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:45 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55:36 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-218-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:41 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:02:34 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B0404F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: BigBB] 21:04:13 *** Farden [~jk3farden@workstation.freenull.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:56 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rbijker.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:07:16 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 21:07:24 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:08:53 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-139-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:12 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:38 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-136-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:13:03 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 21:13:14 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:18:47 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has left #openttd [] 21:25:56 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:58 *** Leviathan [~Leviathan@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:32 *** lev400 [~nnscript@cpc3-port6-0-0-cust939.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:14 *** Svish [~opera@84-20-108-29.no.ventelo.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:38 <Svish> how can I get the game to choose the regular trafficlights when i press the s shortcut key? 21:46:49 <Svish> it chooses those weird arm things... 21:46:54 <Svish> didnt do that before =/ 21:47:09 <Gonozal_VIII_> there's a patch satting use semaphores before year xxx 21:47:43 *** Grey is now known as Guest561 21:49:34 <Svish> ah 21:49:40 <Svish> ill look for that.. 21:50:02 <Gonozal_VIII_> construction tab 21:52:01 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:41 <Gonozal_VIII_> *grmpf* http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/img/wiki_up//windowspal.png <-- what's wrong with that palette, i only used the colours from there and everything is pink everytime i try 22:00:19 <Rubidium> the order of the colours in that palette is (AFAIK) important 22:01:47 <Gonozal_VIII_> hmmm 22:02:40 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 22:04:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11656 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: add ZOOM_LVL_BEGIN and postfix operators so ZoomLevel can be used in some iterations 22:04:32 *** Guest561 [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:33 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-150-6-21.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:05:10 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 22:14:17 <Gonozal_VIII_> ok, i have a full palette in the exact same order now... how do i prevent the trees from being converted to company colour as that's also shades of green? 22:14:40 <Gonozal_VIII_> that company 2 thing 22:15:10 <Gonozal_VIII_> well... i'll try it first 22:18:20 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-131-212.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 22:19:58 <Gonozal_VIII_> much more pink than before... hard to find any pixel that's not pink 22:23:22 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11657 /trunk/src/ (5 files): 22:29:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: show better error message when trying to convert rail 22:29:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: merge DoConvert functions into one, make test and exec runs the same for tunnels/bridges 22:32:43 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-129-19.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:32:53 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 22:33:01 <Gonozal_VIII_> aaaaaaah -p 2 22:33:25 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064028.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:28 <Gonozal_VIII_> depinkified :D 22:40:51 *** TheBlasphemer [TB@s5593f0f9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:41:05 <SmatZ> :-D 22:41:11 <SmatZ> finally :) 22:41:22 <TheBlasphemer> I remember a way to merge two lines into one, and give a specific line of the incoming lines priority with pre-signals, would anyone know where to find that ;)? 22:42:02 <SmatZ> TheBlasphemer: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Priority 22:43:07 <TheBlasphemer> ooh, ty, never seen that wiki before :) 22:44:11 <SmatZ> :) 22:45:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F80B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:51:13 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:54:09 <Sacro> can people please stop entering/leaving 22:54:15 <Sacro> i have more lines of that than of actual conversation 22:55:04 <Svish> hmm... how come my trains dont go into the depot, even when I have set it in the goto list for servicing? 22:55:35 <Gonozal_VIII_> they skip a service order when they don't need it 22:56:20 <Wolf01> 'night 22:56:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host228-237-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:56:38 <Svish> but they do... cause they break down :p 22:57:20 <Svish> I have even disabled the service interval for trains 22:57:35 <Svish> and quoting the wiki: This can also be set to disabled, then you can add go to depot orders allowing you to have better control over when a train is serviced. 22:57:38 <Gonozal_VIII_> then don't use the service at button 22:57:42 <Gonozal_VIII_> only depot order 22:57:45 <Svish> aah 22:57:55 <Svish> and they will be serviced then too? 22:58:20 <Gonozal_VIII_> they get serviced everytime they enter, even if they only do that because there's no way around the depot 22:58:27 <Svish> aah 22:58:29 <Svish> cool 22:58:33 *** Jezral [~projectjj@130.226.173.22] has joined #openttd 23:02:09 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 23:03:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77A45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:03:10 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77A45.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:17 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:18 <TheBlasphemer> Hmmmz, know what'd be nice, some kind of signal that could keep track of how many trains pass :/ 23:12:35 <TheBlasphemer> So you can find out which of two merging lines gets the most trains, and as such should get priority ;) 23:14:29 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04307D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:16:11 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 23:20:07 *** taskland [arr@tyskland.rot.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 23:30:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11658 /trunk/projects/ (langs.vcproj langs_vs80.vcproj langs_vs90.vcproj): -Fix (r11654): forgot project files 23:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> TheBlasphemer: there once was a waypoint statistics patch 23:39:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> sounds like a porn browser :p 23:39:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> <SmatZ> Svish: it is Foxfire :-P 23:40:37 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 23:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> what exactly are "on topic" youtube links? 23:41:12 <glx> when they are related to the current discussion 23:42:23 * Eddi|zuHause2 makes note to direct discussion into a special direction before posting 23:42:36 <glx> lol 23:42:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F80B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:56 <SmatZ> let's talk about the music of 80's! 23:50:08 * SmatZ posts some youtube link with 80's music clip ^_^ 23:51:20 *** joosa [joosa@heh.fi] has joined #openttd 23:52:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's like if you have biology exam, and you only learned cucumber, but the topic is elephants 23:52:46 *** joosa` [~joosa@heh.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> you say "an elephant has a nose, it is long and round, like a cucumber, a cucumber is ... " 23:53:14 <SmatZ> :-) 23:53:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> (that is a very common joke in germany) 23:54:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:57:08 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz]