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00:02:53 <ln-> speak! 00:03:02 <Gonozal_VIII> no! 00:03:29 <Gonozal_VIII> never! 00:04:10 * Zoeff sneaks into #openttd 00:10:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-137-102.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:22 *** GT [~GT@83.117.132.77] has joined #openttd 00:14:55 <Zoeff> Hmm. 00:15:06 <Zoeff> How the @#$% do I start a dedicated server on a nix box? 00:16:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:17:01 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:17:47 <Bjarni> it's not that complicated 00:17:50 <Bjarni> rtfm 00:17:59 <Zoeff> readme.txt? 00:18:02 <Zoeff> did that 00:18:05 <Bjarni> the wiki 00:18:35 <Bjarni> the trick is to add the right argument 00:18:41 <Zoeff> ah 00:18:46 <Zoeff> didnt even realize there was a wiki 00:18:52 <Bjarni> ... 00:19:04 <Bjarni> READ THE CHANNEL TOPIC!!! 00:19:12 <Zoeff> i did 00:19:15 <Zoeff> i saw servers 00:19:47 * glx says -D 00:19:53 <Zoeff> i know 00:19:55 <Zoeff> im reading the wiki 00:20:12 <Zoeff> friendly in here :x 00:20:20 <Bjarni> yeah 00:20:21 <Bjarni> it is 00:20:27 <Bjarni> most of the time 00:20:27 <glx> you could have try -h too 00:20:35 <ln-> also the topic says "use English", which involves using apostrophes appropriately. 00:21:08 <Andel> not 'like 'this? 00:21:39 <Bjarni> m'ore like' t'is :P 00:21:44 <Bjarni> (or not) 00:21:52 <Andel> smart arse 00:22:38 <Bjarni> the thing is that you are supposed to know how it should be 00:24:06 * Zoeff hides from Bjarni 00:26:08 <Bjarni> is this channel usually acting so weird at this hour? 00:26:23 <Zoeff> no, I infected it with my insanity. :D 00:26:56 <Bjarni> now that's the reply that's usual in here 00:27:02 <Bjarni> now it's back to normal 00:27:04 <Bjarni> :) 00:27:09 <Bjarni> I hope 00:28:27 <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni! 00:28:38 <Gonozal_VIII> more normalness :D 00:28:42 <Bjarni> way too much back to normal 00:29:04 * Zoeff strokes Bjarni 00:29:12 <Bjarni> o_O 00:29:28 <Zoeff> There, that suprised him. >:] 00:29:33 * Bjarni kicks Zoeff 00:29:57 <Zoeff> Ouch. 00:30:12 <Bjarni> for all the people making a pass at me/inviting me to bed I have to say that this one is the most bold that I have ever seen 00:30:27 <Zoeff> Ah, so you're a woman? 00:30:33 <glx> lol 00:30:37 <Bjarni> lol 00:30:39 <Zoeff> Thanks for the info. ;p 00:30:50 <Bjarni> a woman 00:30:55 <Bjarni> on IRC? 00:30:56 <Bjarni> lol 00:31:15 <Zoeff> Thar r no gurlz on teh intartubez. 00:31:19 <Andel> yes there are 00:31:20 <Andel> my wife 00:31:24 <Zoeff> LIES! 00:31:36 <Andel> fortunatly now 00:31:38 <Bjarni> Andel: not interested... she is already taken :p 00:31:40 <Andel> she's laid beside me now 00:31:51 <Gonozal_VIII> no females ever enter the virtual worlds of the intarweb 00:31:52 <murray> is she hot? 00:32:16 <Bjarni> murray: she isn't evil enough for you 00:32:39 <Andel> murray: my wife is very hot 00:32:55 <Bjarni> you put her on fire? 00:33:00 <Gonozal_VIII> you should take her to a doctor 00:33:08 <Andel> no, she's laid next to the radiator 00:33:43 <Bjarni> that sentence can be read totally wrong 00:33:52 <Bjarni> she .... laid ... radiator 00:34:19 <Zoeff> ugh, i phail at linux. 00:34:21 <Andel> only if your grasp of modern english is akin to that of the bible 00:34:25 <Zoeff> still cant load this darn server 00:34:44 <glx> does it give an error? 00:34:50 <Bjarni> I believe that you intended to say that she is lying next to the radiator xD 00:34:51 <Zoeff> yer, the command isnt found 00:35:02 <Bjarni> ./openttd isn't found? 00:35:05 <Zoeff> ah 00:35:10 <Zoeff> gotta put ./ in front of it 00:35:16 <Bjarni> lol 00:35:16 * Zoeff runs away for being a *nix nublet 00:35:44 <Zoeff> no such file or directoty 00:35:46 <Zoeff> Grr! 00:36:05 <glx> where is openttd and where are you? 00:36:15 <Zoeff> im in the folder where openttd.exe is 00:36:23 <Zoeff> thats where the command should go, right? :x 00:36:26 <Bjarni> openttd.exe on *NIX? 00:36:32 <Zoeff> hmm. 00:36:36 <Zoeff> now that you mention it. 00:36:51 <Zoeff> I'll go away now. =p 00:37:25 <Bjarni> looks like you have less *nix experience than me 00:38:56 *** Zoeff [Zoeff@a62-251-65-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 00:38:56 *** Zoeff [Zoeff@a62-251-65-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 00:39:15 <Zoeff> So erm, where are the nix files? 00:39:51 <glx> for beta3 ? 00:39:56 <Zoeff> yeah 00:40:05 <glx> you need to compile it yourself 00:40:10 <Zoeff> well, 6.0 is stable right? 00:40:16 <Zoeff> ah great 00:40:29 <Bjarni> a stable version with beta in the name? 00:40:29 <glx> it is as stable as a beta can be 00:40:45 <Zoeff> well, its not beta, its "beta3" 00:40:49 <Zoeff> sounds more stable then beta2. 00:41:05 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:41:05 <glx> contains a nice server killer bug 00:41:18 <Zoeff> Cries! 00:41:21 <ln-> if beta3 is stable, how many horses fit in it? 00:41:28 <Zoeff> And erm, that's the second time I've seen somebody flooded of this network 00:41:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:41:52 <Bjarni> ln-: are you on some kind of medication? 00:42:03 <Zoeff> im guessing 3 00:42:03 <Zoeff> :D 00:42:45 <ln-> Bjarni: not at this time. 00:42:57 <Zoeff> Ah that explains it. 00:42:58 <Bjarni> ln-: maybe you should be 00:43:33 <Belugas> ln, you have to forgive Bjarni, he does not know all the words of english yet ;) 00:43:39 <ln-> Bjarni: stable ['steɪbl] noun (in plural) 2 a horse-keeping establishment | stutteri 00:43:47 <Belugas> Bjarni, that stable stuff was a good joke :D 00:43:47 <Bjarni> Belugas: lol 00:44:28 <Bjarni> stutteri isn't used in English, is it? 00:44:33 <Belugas> :D 00:44:42 <Bjarni> or did you try to translate it? 00:44:52 <Bjarni> without telling that you did 00:44:55 <ln-> it's supposed to be danish 00:45:02 <Bjarni> great 00:45:04 <Bjarni> just great 00:45:19 <Bjarni> you write a line in English that all of a sudden writes a single line in Danish 00:45:29 <Bjarni> now that's not confusing at all 00:46:01 <ln-> der Rennstall, manege, manÚge, scuderia, cavalariça, stall, stutteri, stall, reiðskóli, talli, tall, кПМÑÑМО 00:46:03 *** TX [~pIRCuser6@hard-soft--121.colo2.kv.wnet.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:14 <Bjarni> besides "stutteri" is a horse breeding stable and will not cover all kinds of stables 00:46:26 <Bjarni> ln-: hehe 00:46:53 <ln-> there's another; stald 00:46:59 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2775.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Windows shutdown) ((~_~]"] 00:47:13 <Sacro> heh, horse breeding 00:47:19 <Bjarni> ... 00:47:23 <Bjarni> oh shit 00:47:38 <Bjarni> Sacro can manage to find sex everywhere 00:47:44 <Bjarni> ... 00:48:03 <Bjarni> I sure hope not in my outburst >_< 00:48:10 <Sacro> Bjarni: you started it 00:48:12 <Sacro> as usual 00:49:08 <Bjarni> no I didn't 00:49:10 <Bjarni> you did 00:49:24 <Bjarni> you declared war on Germany 00:49:44 <Sacro> s/declared\ war\ on\ German/Invaded\ Poland/ 00:50:47 <Bjarni> you invaded Poland? 00:51:03 <Bjarni> I thought UK were allied with Poland 00:51:13 <Bjarni> what a bunch of backstabbers 00:51:33 <Zoeff> Why does compiling take so long? 00:51:35 <Gonozal_VIII> lots of backstabbing was involved in ww2 00:51:35 * Zoeff cries 00:52:10 <Bjarni> Zoeff: now that depends on your server 00:52:18 <Zoeff> it isnt that fast but still 00:52:19 <Bjarni> and the lag between the CPU and the disk 00:52:24 <Zoeff> it isnt a huge game 00:52:35 <ln-> and also the fact that you're not using PowerPC 00:53:11 <Zoeff> it's a ded box with 0.00 load 00:53:16 <Zoeff> just an IRC server ;x 00:53:26 <Zoeff> yay its finished 00:58:47 *** GT [~GT@83.117.132.77] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 00:58:47 <Zoeff> Yey, it werks. 01:04:08 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:04:58 <Zoeff> So erm. How do I configure it? Server name etc 01:05:08 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:21 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:05:25 <Zoeff> I found a wiki article about it a little while back, but forgot it >_< 01:05:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:06:11 <Jortuny> hmm, I'm trying to join a server, but it claims newgrf incompatibilities, but when I try to view the newgrf settings, i see a bunch of newgrfs matching then 3 '<Unknown>' in red, and it doesn't give any information besides the GRF ID when I click on them. Any way to find out what i'm missing? 01:06:18 <Sacro> Zoeff: jfgi 01:06:30 <Sacro> Jortuny: yes 01:06:45 * Sacro is in an answer everyone but give no answers mood 01:06:54 <Zoeff> jfgi? o_O 01:07:01 <Jortuny> Sacro: hehe, that's fine? I checked the wiki 01:07:18 <Sacro> Jortuny: grfcrawler 01:08:07 <Jortuny> Sacro: no, I know, that's where I get most of my stuff, but I was hoping there would be at least human-readable names 01:08:15 <Jortuny> does it always just show '<Unknown>'? 01:08:22 <Sacro> Jortuny: nfo doesn't *do* human readable 01:08:44 <Jortuny> hmm.. clearly well-designed, then 01:08:49 <Sacro> XD 01:08:54 <Jortuny> I assume something from ttdpatch... 01:08:59 <Sacro> i think it was less designed 01:09:00 <Jortuny> if it's that indecipherable 01:09:03 <Sacro> and more... clobbered together 01:09:06 <Jortuny> heh 01:10:01 <Jortuny> ugh, well I checked the grf id, and I have the file... 01:10:09 <Jortuny> (the exact version) 01:10:13 <Jortuny> why wouldn't it accept it? :/ 01:11:06 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6579 01:11:11 <glx> communication problems maybe 01:11:58 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:26:18 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-156-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 01:27:17 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:28:10 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-136-057.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:28:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:28:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:30:49 *** Pochen [~bjorn@c-041c70d5.05-52-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:12 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75EBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:42:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B768BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:51:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:52:01 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:09:59 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm185.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 02:10:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r11992 /trunk/src/station_map.h: -Fix (r9905): When building two rail stations close to each other (with control) so they looked like one long track trains would see them as one (spotted and fixed by eddi) 02:11:27 <Sacro> Bjarni: WOW, I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD DO THAT :D 02:12:28 <Bjarni> building stations next to each other? 02:12:30 <Sacro> yeah 02:12:37 <Bjarni> heh 02:12:53 <Bjarni> well 02:12:55 <Bjarni> you can 02:13:44 <Sacro> i know that now 02:14:34 <Bjarni> how do you make bold text in IRC? 02:14:43 <Bjarni> I never knew you could do that 02:14:46 <Sacro> by going like this 02:14:54 <Bjarni> ... 02:15:07 <murray> doesn't bold/colored text in irc mean auto ban? 02:15:24 <Sacro> i dunno 02:15:33 <Bjarni> no I have to do it manually 02:15:36 <Sacro> that failed :( 02:15:38 <Gonozal_VIII> obvoiusly not everywhere or those features wouldn't exist 02:15:55 <murray> yeah obviously not auto auto but it's like obligatory 02:16:01 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:16:07 <Bjarni> we banned colours in here because one guy showed up with a script to make each letter a new colour 02:16:10 <Bjarni> some rainbow script 02:16:16 <Bjarni> damn annoying to read 02:16:21 <murray> oooh rainbow script :D 02:16:28 <murray> that is so 1999 02:16:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:17:08 <Sacro> âthis is amusing 02:17:17 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Server closed connection] 02:17:24 *** DorpsGek [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 02:17:25 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 02:17:26 <Bjarni> you didn't tell me how to write bold 02:17:27 <Sacro> poor DorpsGek 02:17:29 <Sacro> Ë( 02:17:44 <Sacro> Bjani! 02:17:47 <Bjarni> do so now or get banned 02:18:08 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Bjani! <-- symtax error 02:18:13 <Bjarni> keyword not found :P 02:18:15 <Sacro> :( 02:18:18 <Sacro> ctrl+b 02:18:23 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [Leaving] 02:18:27 <Bjarni> test 02:18:28 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 02:18:31 <Sacro> whoops 02:18:45 <Bjarni> test 02:18:51 <Bjarni> Sacro: it's not working 02:19:06 <Sacro> hmm 02:19:10 <Sacro> should work in mIRC 02:19:13 <Sacro> but I thought you had a mac 02:19:24 <Bjarni> well 02:19:34 <Bjarni> sometimes you get small surprises on IRC 02:19:44 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm strange, my client is supposed to ignore things like boldness... but in [03:17:43] Sacro: Bjani! the j, the n and the ! are not bold like my default 02:20:05 <Sacro> Bjarni: she said you had a small surprise 02:31:52 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:35:47 <Gonozal_VIII> bad sacro! 02:35:54 <Gonozal_VIII> you made him leave 02:35:57 <Sacro> :( 02:36:11 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 02:40:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:40:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:45:27 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 02:48:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C20B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48:52 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm185.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 03:03:05 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:03:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:08:05 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-66-74-155-152.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own!] 03:10:40 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N892P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:26:04 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N937P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 03:27:13 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:27:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:50:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:51:01 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:00:54 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i59F572B5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:07:13 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F54DBF.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:14:21 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:14:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:29:10 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 04:29:10 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:29:12 *** NW|Aerandir is now known as Aerandir 04:37:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:37:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:38:48 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498F3D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:38:48 *** mmcbane [~Maui_key@p5498F2E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:02:00 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-165-016.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 05:03:53 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-156-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:17:37 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:19:03 <De_Ghost> sooo anyone here? 05:19:13 <Gonozal_VIII> nope 05:19:18 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21:08 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:23:54 <De_Ghost> FAIL!! 05:23:55 <De_Ghost> lol 05:40:30 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 05:43:19 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 06:24:29 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:25:53 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32:54 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 06:44:34 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm210.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:44:58 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:45:13 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:06 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N937P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:54:12 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 06:54:12 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54:12 *** NW|Aerandir is now known as Aerandir 06:56:43 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-165-016.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:56:43 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-165-016.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04:15 *** NW|Aerandir [~magic.pow@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 07:04:15 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:16:01 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 07:19:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:20:09 <Wolf01> hello 07:26:45 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N937P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 07:30:25 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:02:58 *** reto [daemon@38.23.3.213.fix.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:22:13 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:22:23 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N937P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:32:21 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm210.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 08:50:50 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:50:50 *** NW|Aerandir [~magic.pow@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:51:51 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:53:19 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 08:53:35 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-34.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:54:09 <yorick> hello 08:55:52 <murray> mornin 09:03:19 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 09:03:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 09:10:12 *** Fujitsu [~fujitsu@c211-28-49-204.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:15:40 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 09:17:12 <SmatZ> hello 09:17:46 *** globester [~woot@cc55302-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:52:33 <globester> how strange, when i load the city stations grf, it's not working, everything is just greyed out 09:57:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> globester: try different year 09:58:44 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:01:28 <globester> good idea, hadn't tried that yet :o 10:02:31 <globester> yeah, that's it :/ 10:03:33 <globester> i feel silly :/ 10:07:41 <Wilberforce> hmmm.. perhaps that explains why stations in other grf'sb are greyed out?? 10:07:48 <Wilberforce> only become active at certain years... 10:13:33 <globester> yeah it does 10:14:47 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:16:39 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:25 <Wilberforce> excellent.. 10:17:33 <Wilberforce> i have learned something today then 10:21:07 <mmcbane> hmm why does ECS now have gold mine in temperate.... 10:25:09 <peter1138> why not? heh 10:25:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:34:43 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:51 <mmcbane> it was never there.. 10:36:56 <mmcbane> i think 10:41:00 <mmcbane> peter shouldnt that not happen(or to be fixed)? http://www.2and2.net/my.php?image=http://www.2and2.net/files/479c5ea67e4b3.png 10:44:56 *** remaxim [~remaxim@84.19.173.206] has joined #openttd 10:44:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B841D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:23 *** remaxim [~remaxim@84.19.173.206] has left #openttd [] 10:46:17 <peter1138> heh, funny you should mention that 10:46:39 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82D84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:53:31 <mmcbane> ? 10:54:29 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:00:23 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 11:01:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11993 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Fix: Resize station/roadstop/dock/airport construction windows if cargo acceptance list is too long. 11:02:33 <mmcbane> heh thanks.^,^ 11:02:43 <mmcbane> not even needed a bugreport. 11:04:45 <peter1138> i was already working on it last night 11:07:19 <mmcbane> cool 11:08:11 <mmcbane> you guys do a really great job. 11:08:30 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:26 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:13:13 <yorick> I think I've found a bug with newindustries 11:14:42 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 11:18:11 <yorick> with PBI and UKRS brik chains, gravel and clay don't pay 11:20:17 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:23:16 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 11:26:45 <yorick> I've added it to the bug tracker 11:26:53 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:55 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 11:31:44 <peter1138> only works if it was started with those cargo types available 11:32:20 <yorick> and why doesn't PBI need that? 11:32:56 <peter1138> hmm? 11:33:17 <yorick> PBI doesn't need to be started with the map, it could be added later in scenarios 11:33:40 <yorick> but the addons do? 11:36:34 <peter1138> which scenario, europe or world? 11:36:46 <yorick> world 11:36:55 <peter1138> urgh, too large :o 11:37:19 <yorick> 2048x2048:) 11:37:35 <yorick> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1711 11:38:43 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N761P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:39:26 <yorick> hello 11:39:34 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 11:42:38 <peter1138> more than just gravel & clay don't pay 11:42:53 <Gonozal_VIII> huh? 11:43:08 <peter1138> conversation from before you joined 11:43:58 <Gonozal_VIII> could have guessed so... but i'm still half asleep 11:44:53 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:45:14 <yorick> ? 11:45:25 <yorick> peter138: what else doesn't 11:45:38 <Gonozal_VIII> you should write a bit more details 11:45:40 <peter1138> the other new cargo types 11:45:46 <yorick> peter1138* 11:45:59 <yorick> do, they're disable using the selectors ;) 11:46:34 <yorick> fuel oil, lumber and plastic do 11:46:36 <peter1138> cargo payment rates are only set up at the start 11:46:46 <peter1138> so how you managed that i don't know 11:47:14 <Gonozal_VIII> fuel oil, lumber and plastic replaces some default cargo then i guess 11:47:51 <yorick> it doesnt 11:49:16 <Gonozal_VIII> there's a console command resetengines, right? somebody should probably make one for resetcargos :-) 11:49:30 * yorick wants that! 11:50:18 <yorick> the PBI wasnt added at the start, but added to a scenario built with 0.5.3 11:51:31 <yorick> peter1138: do you know where the cargo setup code is? 11:52:06 <yorick> laaazy 11:52:39 <peter1138> of course i do 11:52:46 <yorick> but you wont tell me 11:56:51 <yorick> pff... I dont know where to start 11:56:55 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:12 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 12:08:04 <yorick> please give me a hint 12:14:05 <yorick> it's a good idea of gonozal to add a resetcargos command 12:15:07 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:28 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 12:22:36 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:38 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-34.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:28:12 *** Scorcerer [~angust@77-87-120-128.rev.masterkom.pl] has joined #openttd 12:28:15 <Scorcerer> hello 12:28:23 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 12:29:26 <Scorcerer> i have a problem with openttd v0.5.3 regarding electric rails 12:29:36 <Scorcerer> dunno if it's a bug 12:29:51 <Scorcerer> i have disable_electric_rails option enabled 12:30:23 <Scorcerer> so now electric trains should run on normal, non-electrified rails, right ? 12:30:44 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess so... never tried that 12:30:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, in fact, there should be no electric rails 12:31:04 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 12:31:14 <Scorcerer> ok, so for now it works 12:31:36 <Scorcerer> it's 1969 in the game and no electirc rails 12:32:19 <Scorcerer> but, in the replace menu there is electric sh30 12:32:25 <Scorcerer> and only there 12:32:50 <Gonozal_VIII> not in the buy vehicle menu? 12:32:51 <Scorcerer> i can't build it in depot nor is it listed in available engines list 12:33:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> best you post your problem and savegame in bugs.openttd.org 12:33:53 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess that's a bug then but 0.5.3 is ancient, look if it's fixed in 0.6.0 beta 3 or trunk 12:34:12 <Scorcerer> ah, okay, thanks 12:34:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> but indeed, test it in 0.6.0-beta3 first 12:34:52 <Scorcerer> and one more question, is 0.6.0b3 backward-compatible with saves from 0.5.3 ? 12:35:07 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 12:35:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can load all 0.5.3 savegames with 0.6.0 12:35:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> but not the other way 12:35:20 <Scorcerer> ok 12:47:32 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf how's that possible... i remember to have played with a patch where you could set "leave station if x other trains are loading" but i can't find anything about that patch 12:48:15 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:49:01 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:49:17 <globester> it's the improved loading algorithm 12:49:24 <globester> oh wait, it's not 12:50:07 <Gonozal_VIII> improved loading algorithm is something else and is in trunk 12:50:23 <globester> yeah, i misread :P 12:55:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> i also remember something about an additional orders patch 12:56:45 <Gonozal_VIII> it's not on flyspray, that's where i looked first, in the forum search i found some people mentioning how great it is but no link and even google didn't help 13:04:28 *** Stea1mWilly [webmaster@dslb-084-062-191-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:06:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> there are hints that a "gigajum's additional orders patch" was in miniin 13:06:17 <Gonozal_VIII> yes but couldn't find that 13:08:14 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12193 13:08:16 <Gonozal_VIII> yay 13:08:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, i just wanted to post that ;) 13:08:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> r1148 ;) 13:09:04 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess that would require a little bit of updating 13:09:41 <Gonozal_VIII> but 1148 can't be the latest version if it's been in miniin 13:10:18 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm sacro 13:15:58 <Gonozal_VIII> @openttd commit 11992 13:15:59 <DorpsGek> Gonozal_VIII: Commit by bjarni :: r11992 trunk/src/station_map.h (2008-01-27 02:09:46 UTC) 13:16:00 <DorpsGek> Gonozal_VIII: -Fix (r9905): When building two rail stations close to each other (with control) so they looked like one long track trains would see them as one (spotted and fixed by eddi) 13:16:08 <Gonozal_VIII> seen that?^^ 13:17:53 *** Stea1mWilly is now known as SteamWilly 13:18:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1750.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:23:07 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:27:03 <Gonozal_VIII> diffs all over the place... 13:31:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> if the patch vanished after miniin, chances are, it never got ported to C++ 13:32:21 <Gonozal_VIII> :-/ 13:32:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> there once was a patches.zip in the miniin 13:33:20 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm currenty reading the miniin topic... there was an attachment there with a fix for the patch... but nothing newer so far 13:35:55 <mmcbane> http://nightly.openttd.org/MiniIN/files/ miniin files. =) 13:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Additional Orders r5450 in MiniIN gigajum" 13:37:39 *** Amis [~IceChat7@dsl5400EB36.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 13:37:47 <Amis> hello 13:37:52 <Gonozal_VIII> i know, but i'm trying to find something a bit less ancient than 5xxx 13:37:56 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 13:37:59 <mmcbane> heh 13:38:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, you can follow the updates of miniin 13:38:38 <Amis> i need help, can somebody explain me how the semaphore works or can send me a link to a guide about it? 13:39:13 <Gonozal_VIII> they work the same way as light signals, they just look different 13:39:23 <Gonozal_VIII> and you build them with ctrl 13:39:45 <Amis> uhm then why they have 3 different look? 13:39:56 <Gonozal_VIII> ah, those are presignals 13:40:09 <Amis> okkey those :D so how they work? 13:40:51 <Gonozal_VIII> the yellow horizontal one turns red if all grey ones after it are red 13:40:55 <mmcbane> the are r8*** 13:41:17 <Gonozal_VIII> and the yellow vertical is a combination of yellow horizontal and grey 13:41:47 *** Lego- [~Miranda@84.204.102.178] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM!] 13:42:01 <Amis> oh man, you helped a lot :D thx really 13:43:48 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm210.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 13:46:20 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:46:20 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:36 <Amis> this new openttd is amazing :D 13:46:42 <Amis> the 0.6.0 13:47:09 <Gonozal_VIII> gets better all the time 13:47:51 <Amis> and as i know, it works with all its features without having the original ttd, is that right? 13:48:04 <Gonozal_VIII> no not yet 13:48:15 <Amis> what do i need to make it fully working 13:48:22 <Amis> and what dont work without the ttd 13:48:28 <Gonozal_VIII> but people are working on replacing the missing graphics and sounds 13:48:45 <SteamWilly> could anyone provide me an openttd.cfg with all the newgrfs of grfpack6 activated? so that i don't have to activate them manually 13:48:54 <SteamWilly> or at least the ones wich dont conflict 13:49:12 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 13:49:14 <Amis> so it export the graphics and sounds from the ttd, nothing else? 13:49:35 <Gonozal_VIII> if you try to activate all of those grfs at once, your game will be quite messed up i think 13:50:06 <SteamWilly> yes .. but maybe a good collection will be ok 13:50:06 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, only sound and some graphic files 13:50:41 <Amis> thx.. this chat is really usefull... that happens when people read the readme, there where i found this irc channel :) 13:50:51 <Amis> im going to play now, byebye 13:51:10 *** Amis [~IceChat7@dsl5400EB36.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak] 13:51:24 <Gonozal_VIII> all of those grfs work... lots of combinations work... it's best if you pick the ones you like best and try if they work together 13:53:18 <SteamWilly> this is a timeconsumting work ;) 13:55:07 <Gonozal_VIII> bah, r5823 is the latest revision of the additional orders patch that i can find 13:55:21 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> like i said, the only other option you have is to follow the upgrade path through miniin 13:57:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> that'll get you to r8xxx 13:58:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> and then you have this hughe patch blocker ahead of you 13:58:29 <Gonozal_VIII> yay... 13:59:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> (i'm talking about c++) 13:59:20 <Gonozal_VIII> i know 13:59:30 <Gonozal_VIII> 2 languages i don't know instead of one 14:07:06 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 14:09:03 *** Amis [~IceChat7@dsl5400EB36.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:09:15 <Amis> im back with one more question :) 14:10:10 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-099-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:10:35 <Amis> so there are presignals, and whats that (i saw it on screenshot) where there are 2 lamps on the signals but only one of them green, the other is orange, and there arent any horizontal and vertical thing under the lamps 14:11:06 <Gonozal_VIII> pbs... you don't have that 14:11:14 <Amis> and what pbs is? 14:11:21 <Gonozal_VIII> path based signalling 14:11:30 <Amis> and why i dont have that 14:11:38 <Gonozal_VIII> very advanced but causes a lot of problems 14:12:13 <Amis> so i need to turn it on with that ttdx configurator? or its not avaliable right now for simple users? 14:12:27 <glx> it's not in openttd 14:12:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not available 14:12:33 <Amis> ahha 14:12:36 <Gonozal_VIII> ttdx configurator doesn't work in openttd (i guess) 14:13:11 <Amis> im lost.. i have too much tycoon... ttdpatch openttd, the original tycoon.. 14:13:23 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:15:47 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-178-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:15:50 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 14:16:08 <Gonozal_VIII> you can do everything you could do in the original game in both patch and open but the additional features of them are different 14:16:52 <Amis> you said that the horizontal pres. turn red when all grey behind it turn red, then which greys count? is there a square distance limit? i hope you know what i mean 14:17:41 <Gonozal_VIII> those without any other signals in between 14:18:24 <Amis> so in this order: pres. horizontal --- simple signal --- grey pres. the grey will not count? 14:18:49 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, then the horizontal will act like a normal signal 14:18:55 <Amis> okkey thx 14:21:51 *** Mark__ [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:22:22 <Gonozal_VIII> strange... i checked out r5470 of trunk to apply the advanced orders patch for 5470... when i try to apply it, tortoisemerge writes: fetching revision 5470 of file bla and then aborts with "file not found: revision 11993 of bla" 14:24:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> use patch.exe 14:24:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> (from mingw) 14:25:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> patch -p0 -i <file> 14:25:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> have fun with the GUI updates ;) 14:36:57 <Gonozal_VIII> but i can't fix conflicts that way? 14:39:58 <Gonozal_VIII> what's that "fetching file" crap anyways, file is already there... 14:44:56 *** Ammler [~Ammler@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))] 14:45:29 *** Ammler [~Ammler@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:50:19 <Amis> again: one-way roads. and what are those roads where there are 2 arrows pointing to both side and a red something in the middle 14:50:48 <Gonozal_VIII> that's a good question 14:51:08 <Amis> so you dont know? 14:51:11 <Gonozal_VIII> no 14:51:20 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:06 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess it's some kind of "click here to change direction that way" indicator 14:53:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: there should not be any conflicts if you have the exact same revision 14:54:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> tortoise merge occasionaly screws up because it does a 3-way diff 14:54:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> but you don't need 3 way 14:54:36 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess i used the miniin diff... downloaded too many files and they don't have revision or version in the name 14:55:12 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:03:44 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:11:10 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:11:27 <Amis> still nobody who could answer my question? 15:13:05 <Maedhros> Amis: that means "road vehicles are not allowed to enter this tile at all" 15:13:17 <Amis> and then what can enter? 15:13:43 <Maedhros> nothing 15:13:49 <Amis> maybe trams? 15:14:01 <Gonozal_VIII> trams are road vehicles ingame 15:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> trams are not affected by one way roads 15:14:10 <Maedhros> exactly 15:14:29 <Amis> and: how do i build road for trams, cuz the option is disabled 15:14:39 <yorick> load a tram grf 15:14:41 <Gonozal_VIII> you need a tram grf loaded 15:14:51 <Amis> can be download from:? 15:14:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> grfcrawler 15:15:10 <Gonozal_VIII> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=list&cid=105 15:16:33 <Gonozal_VIII> that question gets asked all the time... devs should really include the generic tram set... 15:16:41 <Amis> yea 15:17:10 <Amis> what do you think, which tram grf is the best? 15:17:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> most are still in development 15:17:36 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-211-24.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:17:41 <Gonozal_VIII> and it depends on how you define best 15:18:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> like the version of modern tram set i have, it has big problems with sprite offsets 15:20:15 <Gonozal_VIII> Standard Gauge Tram Track <-- that grf is in the wrong category btw 15:20:40 <Amis> if there are a lot grf in a package, i have to add all manually? 15:20:44 <yorick> no 15:20:50 <yorick> you don't have to add anything 15:20:59 <Gonozal_VIII> huh?^^ 15:20:59 <yorick> except the grfs you want 15:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> you should only have one grf of each type 15:21:40 <yorick> you may have more than 1 station grf 15:21:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> except if they specifically say they are compatible 15:22:03 <Amis> i know that, but if i download a package with grfs for road, railway etc... i have to all all manually if its not in one grf? 15:22:08 <Gonozal_VIII> it can be faster to add grfs directly to the cfg than through the ingame grf menu because you can copy&paste the filenames there, a lot of them in one go... 15:22:18 <Amis> ahha 15:22:25 <Amis> one more question: 15:22:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> don't edit the cfg while the game is running 15:22:38 <Amis> are you bored of my newbie questions? 15:22:57 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, don't do that... changes will be gone after game quits 15:22:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, so what? :p 15:24:19 <Gonozal_VIII> followed by another noob question by me... what are those @@ some numbers @@ lines in a .diff file? 15:24:31 <peter1138> line numbers 15:25:04 <Gonozal_VIII> makes sense^^ thanks 15:25:04 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:26:41 <Amis> the 0.6.0 is standalone or a patch to 0.5.3? lol 15:27:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> rXXXXX is an "upgrade", X.X.X is a "full version" 15:27:55 <Amis> so openttd-0.6.0-beta3-win32.exe is a full ver, then wheres the file where i can add grfs? :) 15:28:34 <Gonozal_VIII> the cfg is generated after you start the game the first time 15:28:49 <Amis> next to the exe? 15:28:49 <Gonozal_VIII> ... after you close the game the first time 15:28:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> correction, after you exit the game for the first time 15:29:09 <Amis> cuz seems it dont wanna make that file... 15:29:29 <Gonozal_VIII> "my documents" 15:29:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, it should be somewhere in your personal directory, i believe 15:29:45 <Amis> lol! why there? 15:30:09 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-180-98.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:30:13 <Gonozal_VIII> you can have for example 0.5.3 and 0.6.0 at the same time installed and use the same settings 15:30:40 <Amis> uhm, my 0.5.3 used the install directory to create cfg files 15:30:44 <Gonozal_VIII> but if you copy/move the cfg next to the exe, it uses it from there 15:30:49 <Amis> ahha 15:31:22 *** Scorcerer [~angust@77-87-120-128.rev.masterkom.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> use of a common directory for all openttd installations is a new feature of 0.6 15:32:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> also, you can share the same installation with different users, each having different configs 15:32:56 <Amis> okkey now what i really miss is an understandable changelog and a description of the use of the new features. 15:33:04 <Gonozal_VIII> that's MY laptop, nobody touches that! 15:33:06 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 15:33:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> "svn log" ;) 15:33:29 <Gonozal_VIII> description is in the wiki 15:34:41 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-210.45.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:14 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=35809 <-- changelog 15:35:38 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 15:35:58 *** Scorcerer [~angust@77-87-120-128.rev.masterkom.pl] has joined #openttd 15:36:00 <Amis> what do i have to do to force the new grfs into the old scenarios? impossible? 15:36:19 <Amis> i mean not adding one by one 15:36:44 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmmm only one by one there afaik 15:37:24 <Gonozal_VIII> and some grfs don't work when loaded into an existing game 15:37:39 <Gonozal_VIII> especially industries 15:38:38 <Amis> ahha now i know, that "buses, trucks cant enter" road only allowed for trams 15:39:04 <Gonozal_VIII> i would just remove the road then^^ 15:39:10 <Amis> yeah... 15:39:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: then the town will rebuild it 15:39:48 <Gonozal_VIII> it can do that over player owned tram tracks? 15:40:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> there needn't be tram tracks 15:40:23 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 15:40:51 <Gonozal_VIII> well i know... but if there are? 15:42:03 <Gonozal_VIII> doesn't matter, i don't care where towns place thei roads^^ 15:42:08 <Gonozal_VIII> r 15:42:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have not seen towns building over tram tracks, but i believe that is due to the road layout, not because it is forbidden 15:43:15 <Gonozal_VIII> and that's town owned tram track then? 15:43:28 <Gonozal_VIII> tiles can only have one owner and such.. 15:44:36 *** Zothar [~Zothar@ppp-70-242-202-109.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:20 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:50:41 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:33 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@i59F7C4AC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> the first owner wins? 16:00:57 <Gonozal_VIII> why does tortoisemerge always try to download the head revision instead of the one it should? 16:01:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm not sure if it is meanwhile possible to have different road owners 16:01:38 <Gonozal_VIII> but the precious bits! 16:06:49 <Gonozal_VIII> - v->current_order.flags = 0; 16:06:49 <Gonozal_VIII> + //v->current_order.flags = 0; 16:06:55 <Gonozal_VIII> not that's a strange thing to do 16:07:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:46 <Gonozal_VIII> just commented out... 16:08:34 <Gonozal_VIII> i'll delete it, deleting is way cooler 16:09:00 <Gonozal_VIII> all the cool kids delete 16:09:30 *** Mark__ [~Mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:54 *** Amis_ [~IceChat7@dsl5400C3B7.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:14:01 <Amis_> heh dc... 16:14:02 <Amis_> so 16:14:46 <Amis_> is that a bug the with turning on hte invisible building options the fruit plantation (and maybe other industries) do not become invisible? as i remember in 0.5.3 it worked well 16:15:28 <Amis_> forget it 16:15:44 * Gonozal_VIII forgets it 16:15:48 <Amis_> i see theres a new options called Transparency options 16:15:53 <Amis_> option* 16:19:31 <SmatZ> Amis_: yeah, ctrl+x 16:19:53 *** Amis [~IceChat7@dsl5400EB36.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:58 <Amis_> any admin here? please kick my stucked clone Amis, not Amis_ 16:20:10 <Amis_> lol 16:20:20 <Amis_> somebody can read in my mind :P 16:20:24 <SpComb> Amis_: /msg nickserv help ghost 16:20:29 *** Amis_ is now known as Amis 16:20:37 <Amis> what sp? 16:20:53 <SpComb> Amis: register your nickname with nickserv, and you can then ghost it if it's inuse 16:21:18 <Amis> "ghost it"? 16:21:24 <Gonozal_VIII> or wait 8 minutes... 16:21:56 <SpComb> also applies if some other person takes your nickname 16:21:57 <Gonozal_VIII> if your connection is lost, your nick stays on the irc server for 8 minutes until ping timeout 16:23:41 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 16:23:41 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N761P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:56 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:24:15 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N833P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 16:24:40 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 16:30:50 *** Korenn^ [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 16:31:02 *** Korenn^ [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [] 16:31:23 <aleex> how to reset an company? 16:31:35 <aleex> "rcon PW reset_company 2" 16:31:39 <aleex> doesn't work 16:31:47 <Gonozal_VIII> no pw 16:32:09 <aleex> ah 16:32:33 <aleex> doens't work ;< 16:32:45 <aleex> company 2 (player 2) 16:34:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> might start counting with 0? 16:34:18 <aleex> no 16:34:23 <aleex> tried 1 16:34:34 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.244] has joined #openttd 16:36:02 <aleex> "remove an idle company from the game. usage: reset_company ID 16:36:09 <aleex> bt doesn't work 16:37:01 <glx> rcon rcon_pw command 16:37:08 <glx> should work 16:37:13 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 16:37:39 <aleex> doesn't 16:37:46 <aleex> rcon PW reset_company 2 16:37:49 <aleex> doesn't work 16:38:08 <glx> try rcon PW "reset_company 2" 16:38:14 <aleex> ok 16:38:24 <aleex> ah 16:38:25 <aleex> thx! 16:38:55 <aleex> anyone want to play with us? 16:39:02 <aleex> 0.6.0-beta3 16:39:23 <aleex> all allowed, 1.000.000 euro, open-end 16:40:51 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:42:59 *** Osai^Kendo`off is now known as Osai 16:45:46 <aleex> hm ;< 16:52:34 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:16 <yorick> any dev's thoughts on implementing a resetcargos command for the console? 17:02:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:03:41 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> last time it was discussed, there was something about factoring in inflation 17:16:00 <Amis> hmm i alway wanted to know what decide which train is the next... somebody? because its the the order of arrival 17:16:34 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe a friend of mine sent me a screenshot of his router config to take a look at... it was a terrible jpg and i couldn't read anything so i asked him to send me a png instead... then he sent me the same file, renamed to .png^^ 17:17:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> Amis: the train that can start up the fastest 17:19:05 <Amis> and when (cause i have this now) all trains are the same? lev4 with empty goods wagons 17:19:06 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: Just be glad it wasn't the .jpg saved as .bmp renamed to .png 17:19:48 <Amis> cause it seems to be random.. it should be the order of arrival 17:19:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> Amis: train id most probably 17:21:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> the waiting time is not stored anywhere, and it would need some kind of arbiter to allow a train to start up, this is really unlikely to work with the current signalling system 17:21:25 <Amis> hehh... 17:24:15 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm210.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: prööt] 17:27:15 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip157.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:27:20 <LordAzamath> hello 17:28:06 <Gonozal_VIII> no need to store waiting time, lists rock 17:28:20 <Amis> lol 17:30:07 <Gonozal_VIII> ah i guess the game loops through all vehicles at once... 17:30:17 <yorick> I gotta go 17:30:19 <yorick> bye 17:30:23 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 17:30:40 <Gonozal_VIII> not just the ones inside the depot... kk that's problematic then 17:31:57 <Gonozal_VIII> the depotcode could flag it as first and then the other vehicles that are not first skip their tick 17:32:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r11994 /trunk/src/ (15 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Remove numbers from string names where the strings aren't present in TTD, since they don't correspond to either TTD's TextIDs or OpenTTD's StringIDs. 17:34:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r11995 /trunk/src/lang/ (39 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup (r11994): Change the string names in all the other languages. 17:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> who said anything about depots? 17:39:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay for full recompile that changes nothing ;) 17:42:15 <Maedhros> :-P 17:43:06 <LordAzamath> hmm.. what do you think of the structure of this.. (yes I'm drawing again :P ) http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35310&start=720#p660414 17:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> man, these TGP landscapes just scream for diagonal tunnels.. 17:43:45 <DJ-Nekkid> anyone i can bother with a couple .nfo/newgrf questions ? (VarAction2's) 17:43:46 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 17:43:54 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 17:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> a propos varaction2... i was about to implement something... 17:44:25 <DaleStan> DJ-Nekkid: There are several people you can bother. But none who can answer without seeing the questions. 17:44:35 <DJ-Nekkid> hehe... well ... 17:45:04 <LordAzamath> Eddi|zuHause2: TGP? 17:45:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> TerraGenesis Perlin, the standard map generator of openttd 17:45:47 <DJ-Nekkid> DaleStan/someone i have a MU... with <--- and ---> (different light + active phanto on the one in the back) ... ive understood i need action1 + 2 for front, then action 1 + 2 for back, and then i'm stuck :) 17:46:03 <DJ-Nekkid> -1 * 0 02 00 AC 00 40 <fill in more here> :) 17:46:36 <DaleStan> Did you read the VariationalAction2 and VarAction2Vehicles pages? 17:46:53 <DJ-Nekkid> yes i did, but they didnt take me tooo far... 17:47:14 <DaleStan> (That's very unlikely to be valid as the fourth and fifth bytes of an action 2, by the way.) 17:47:55 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 17:48:37 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:49:50 <DJ-Nekkid> hmm... 17:50:05 <Scorcerer> does it matter what patch settings i have enabled when creating map, or server always uses it's own settings written in openttd.conf? 17:51:23 <DaleStan> If the fourth byte is <nument1>, the fifth byte is rarely larger than 0F, and if the fifth byte is <var>, the fourth byte needs to be <type>, not <nument1>. 17:51:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> settings are taken from the savegame, so it does matter what you have when creating the map 17:52:16 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:54:24 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:56:31 <Scorcerer> ok, thanks 17:57:55 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 17:58:18 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-180-98.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:13 <DJ-Nekkid> DaleStan: so something like -1 * 0 02 00 AC 00 40 00 FF 01 AA 00 00 00 AB 00 ? 17:59:52 <DaleStan> 40 isn't any better as nument1 than nument2, and it's not a valid type. 18:00:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> this is how you learn to loathe NFO ;) 18:00:21 <DaleStan> Except that I missed the 00. 18:00:27 <DJ-Nekkid> 40 is in my head the "count vehicle thingy" 18:00:58 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that -1 * 0 is wrong, for the rest i have no idea :-) 18:01:00 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 18:01:00 <DaleStan> But that's not a variational 2. A variatioal 2 has a byte 81, 82, 85, 86, 89, or 8A as the fourth byte. 18:01:08 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:02:25 <DaleStan> If the fourth byte is 00..7F, it's standard, if the fourth byte is 80 or 83 it's random. All other values (84, 87, 88, 8B--FF) are invalid. 18:03:00 <DJ-Nekkid> well, it isnt random... it's fixed... 18:04:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:04:30 <DaleStan> No, it's variaitiona. See the line before. 18:04:40 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:04:41 <DaleStan> *variational 18:08:46 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:51 <Amis> holy lol... that 2300 km/h at the new planes... REALLY fast... this realistic plane speed integration is nice :D 18:09:52 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:10 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:10:19 <Amis> they just... loading *blink* unloading 18:13:08 <Gonozal_VIII> wait until the teleporters come available... 18:13:16 <Amis> in 2542? 18:13:41 <Amis> Teleport Tycoon Deluxe... 18:13:49 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, exactly 2542 18:14:04 <hylje> :o 18:14:59 <Gonozal_VIII> you just put them everywhere and they generate money without you doing anything 18:15:35 <Amis> nono... you have to buy a man who carry the cargo out of the industry 18:15:57 <Amis> thats about... 12$ a month 18:16:16 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-180-98.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:16:52 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess in the year 2542 you don't have to buy people anymore, you just clone them 18:17:06 <Amis> clone them in the depot? 18:17:09 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-099-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:40 <peter1138> remember to ctrl-clone them 18:18:05 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 18:18:08 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 18:18:15 *** Zothar_ [~Zothar@ppp-70-242-202-109.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:23 <Amis> so in 2542 i sti to my hyper-super computer, i put my child into the scanner and ctrl-klikk it, now i have twins 18:18:24 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 18:18:29 <Amis> sit* 18:19:05 *** Zothar_ [~Zothar@ppp-70-242-202-109.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 18:19:07 *** xerxes [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:29 *** Zothar_ [~Zothar@ppp-70-242-202-109.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:12 *** Tefad_ [~tefad@c-71-63-30-72.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:42 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: Zothar, lekro, Belugas_Gone, Frostregen, shodan, +michi_cc, Tefad 18:21:43 *** xerxes is now known as shodan 18:21:50 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:21:55 *** Zothar_ is now known as Zothar 18:21:57 *** Netsplit over, joins: lekro 18:22:09 *** michi_cc [29f137a01f@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 18:22:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 18:22:43 <Gonozal_VIII> oxygen was gone... could barely breath for a while there 18:23:40 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-210.45.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:55 <Amis> what if i apply 2 tram grf? 18:26:42 <Gonozal_VIII> depends on which ids they use 18:27:07 *** dih is now known as anhedral 18:27:21 <Amis> and what if i remove the grf i use now for trams and load a new, what will happen to the trams i have now? 18:27:39 <Gonozal_VIII> nothing 18:27:45 <Amis> ? 18:27:55 <Amis> but the grf they used will no longer exist 18:28:03 <Gonozal_VIII> until you apply changes :-) 18:28:10 <Amis> ............ 18:28:16 <Wolf01> they might become toyland trucks 18:28:21 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:28:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:28:51 <aleex> someone who wants to play with us? 18:29:01 <Chrill> Sure 18:29:11 <Chrill> GRFs? Version? and all that? 18:29:32 <aleex> 0.6 beta3 18:29:42 <aleex> all allowed, 1mio euro 18:29:49 <aleex> openend 18:30:02 <aleex> 1gbit 18:30:52 <Chrill> ?? 18:31:28 <Gonozal_VIII> openttd only needs some kbit 18:31:52 <Amis> hahaha the trams became steel trucks but they still move ont the rail :D 18:31:54 <Gonozal_VIII> but it's nice to have a fast connection to load the map while joining 18:33:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> how's the weather in austria? 18:35:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> the news were telling something about storms, flying roofs and power failures 18:35:21 <Amis> in middle europe yeah lol 18:35:41 <LordAzamath> in northern part too (few days ago...) 18:35:47 <Amis> wind wind wind... 18:35:51 <Amis> nothing else 18:36:00 <Amis> its not cold btw 18:36:15 <Wolf01> here in italy is really nice instead, flying frogs, red rain, people walking with the hands... 18:36:28 <Amis> totally normal 18:36:33 *** SteamWilly [webmaster@dslb-084-062-191-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Kultur ist, wenn ich meinem Nachbarn den Kopf abschlage und aus dem SchÀdel eine Vase mache. - Zivilisation ist, wenn ich dafÃŒr in das GefÀngnis komme.] 18:37:28 <LordAzamath> what happens if I use two actionAs for one sprite in same grf.. w/o any action7 or stuff... 18:37:43 <LordAzamath> Wolf01: But what about Napoli? :P 18:37:48 <peter1138> it gets replaced twice 18:37:59 <LordAzamath> does it load both sprites? 18:38:13 <peter1138> no 18:38:14 <LordAzamath> I mean can I have two sprites, when they don't overlap 18:38:18 <Gonozal_VIII> no wind here, mountains all around 18:38:18 <LordAzamath> baah 18:38:21 <Wolf01> ah over there... bah, they like to swim in the trash 18:38:32 <LordAzamath> I was just thinking of transparent windows.. :P 18:39:52 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:17 <Amis> lol gonzol surronded with mountains, i live on the top of a mountaind, now imagine how hard the wind is here 18:40:41 <LordAzamath> peter1138: But is there a possibility to have more sprites in replacement than in the original? Like I have rail depot, which consists of two sprites, but I want to define three sprites... That's not possible? 18:41:01 <Gonozal_VIII> how high is that mountain? 18:41:05 <LordAzamath> (or to be accurate 4 sprites :P ) 18:41:13 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 18:41:24 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:41:35 <Amis> i dont know :D but the street end at the top, and the last house is mine, so no protection against the wind, no house, no trees 18:42:02 <LordAzamath> poor guy.. NAAAT!! 18:42:11 <Gonozal_VIII> don't want to pay your heating bills then 18:42:12 <LordAzamath> ^^ 18:42:21 <Amis> :) 18:44:04 <Amis> a question: in the 0.6.0, does the AI have something new element? do the enemies build trains? or ships? or airplanes? 18:44:24 <Gonozal_VIII> ai sucks 18:44:29 <Amis> grrr.... 18:44:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's the NoAI branch, but that will not be included in 0.6 18:45:06 <Amis> whats that 18:45:19 <glx> scripted ai 18:45:31 <Gonozal_VIII> makes it easier for people to write ais 18:45:43 <glx> but it's far from finished 18:46:43 <Gonozal_VIII> i can see the ai competition servers coming^^ 18:47:11 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl10-221-92.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:47:21 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl10-221-92.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 18:48:00 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-180-98.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:09 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:52:11 <Amis> hahaha... ai made small airport, bought airplanes that goes with 1000 km/h, now all planes crashed 18:52:30 <Gonozal_VIII> murderer! 18:53:00 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:53:10 <Chrill> DAIII AI 18:53:57 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 18:53:58 <peter1138> LordAzamath, no, it's not possible. if it was it wouldn't be action A to do it 18:54:46 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 18:54:52 <LordAzamath> hmm.. you are right about the actionA side of that sentence :D.. And I guess the first part too.. 18:54:58 <LordAzamath> ^^ 18:55:09 <peter1138> of course i'm right 18:55:39 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:56:31 <LordAzamath> hmm... but would it be extremely difficult to get?... As a new property/feature of some action.. or something?... 18:56:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> Amis: i believe that was fixed in a recent commit 18:57:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> even if peter1138 wasn't right, he could make it right ;) 18:57:24 <LordAzamath> not for TTDP ;) 18:57:34 <LordAzamath> ^^ 18:58:30 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:58:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay, i finally connected two small networks ;) 18:59:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> after almost 40 years of having that plan ;) 18:59:41 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 18:59:51 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 19:00:06 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't know you were that old eddi 19:01:18 <Amis> im going offline, thx for the info from everybody :D 19:01:19 <Amis> byebye 19:01:26 *** Amis [~IceChat7@dsl5400C3B7.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well] 19:02:59 * LordAzamath is leaving for today too... But before he leaves, he gives you a link: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35310&p=660419#p660419 19:03:35 <LordAzamath> bye 19:03:53 <Gonozal_VIII> toyland depot 19:04:01 <LordAzamath> grr 19:04:08 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 19:04:19 <Gonozal_VIII> i know, i know... textures 19:04:25 <LordAzamath> not properly textured yet 19:04:41 <LordAzamath> half of is though :P 19:04:48 <LordAzamath> +it 19:05:00 <Gonozal_VIII> looks a little low, do vehicles fit in there? 19:05:24 <LordAzamath> same height as original 19:05:42 <Gonozal_VIII> ah.. illusion then 19:05:47 <LordAzamath> ok actually.. 9px 19:06:05 <LordAzamath> origianl is 8 :P 19:06:18 <LordAzamath> it's just wider 19:06:33 <Gonozal_VIII> illusion! 19:06:49 <Gonozal_VIII> burn the illusionist! 19:06:51 <LordAzamath> this fits whole tile... original didn't 19:07:44 <Gonozal_VIII> now you have to make it look like you're not burning 19:07:55 <LordAzamath> me? 19:08:03 <Gonozal_VIII> sure :-) 19:08:11 <LordAzamath> abakadabra 19:08:21 <LordAzamath> see how easy it was :) 19:08:52 <LordAzamath> try it yourself too.. first let's set you on fire.... right.. that's more like it 19:09:04 <LordAzamath> and now jsut do as I did 19:09:05 <yorick> I'm looking how hard it is to implement a resetcargos console command 19:09:31 <peter1138> it's not needed 19:09:44 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-221-92.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:10:00 <yorick> so I'll have to fully redo a scenario in order to add one grf? 19:10:33 <mmcbane> what is max industrie/resources per map`? 37? 19:10:37 <yorick> a scenario of 2048x2048 that is 19:10:45 <yorick> cargo's, 37 I think 19:11:06 <Gonozal_VIII> or 32 19:11:30 <yorick> no, it was an odd number 19:11:34 <yorick> in 30 19:11:46 <yorick> 31, 33, 35, 37 or 39 19:11:55 <LordAzamath> lol 19:12:00 <Gonozal_VIII> 32 cargos 37 industries or something like that 19:12:08 <Gonozal_VIII> i know what odd numbers are :P 19:12:10 <peter1138> you're counting types 19:12:10 <mmcbane> i have 37 with esc + powerplants. 19:12:13 <peter1138> not the max in a map 19:13:28 <yorick> he asked for types, right? 19:13:36 <Gonozal_VIII> both 19:13:42 <LordAzamath> "what is max industrie/resources per map`? 37?" :P 19:13:53 <yorick> dunno if there is a max for industries per map 19:14:05 <LordAzamath> 65535? ^^ 19:14:08 <yorick> well...depends on how much would fit in 19:14:18 <yorick> there wont fit 65535 19:14:23 <yorick> in 2048x2048 19:14:28 <Gonozal_VIII> there will 19:14:37 * yorick makes calculation 19:14:41 <mmcbane> i meant types =) 19:14:47 <yorick> 37 19:15:01 <LordAzamath> 2 048 * 2 048 = 4 194 304 19:15:21 <yorick> 4 194 304 /6 19:15:24 <LordAzamath> if you have an industry grf, occupies oone tile 19:15:37 <yorick> @calc 4194304/6 19:15:37 <DorpsGek> yorick: 699050.666667 19:15:48 <yorick> most are around 6 19:16:09 <Gonozal_VIII> see, only a tenth of the map covered then 19:16:22 * Chrill licks Sacro's stomach 19:16:29 <Gonozal_VIII> WTF 19:16:37 <LordAzamath> weirdos... 19:16:39 <yorick> [20:09] <@peter1138> it's not needed <-- ? 19:16:47 <Chrill> ..BRB :) 19:16:59 <yorick> how would I do it then? 19:22:47 <yorick> ? 19:23:25 <LordAzamath> maybe something to do with this... look for comments by Truelight... http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1060 19:23:54 <LordAzamath> and maybe that patch can do what you want := 19:23:57 <LordAzamath> :)* 19:26:02 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:18 <yorick> what patch? 19:28:34 <yorick> @seen dih* 19:28:34 <DorpsGek> yorick: dih* could be dih (20 hours, 48 minutes, and 34 seconds ago), dihedral (1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes, and 0 seconds ago), dihedral_ (10 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 15 seconds ago), dihedral|work (12 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 51 seconds ago), dihedral|lunch (12 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes, and 57 seconds ago), dihedral|afk (13 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 25 minutes, and 5 (1 more message) 19:30:08 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: HELP ME I AM A PENGUIN YET I HAVE NO BEAK ONLY MARSHMELLOWS] 19:31:25 <yorick> no, you're a lobster 19:34:18 <LordAzamath> yorick: that patch of which FS task I pointtes you :P 19:34:26 <LordAzamath> s=d 19:34:34 <yorick> I already have that patch 19:34:45 *** yorick is now known as Yorick|AFK 19:35:45 <LordAzamath> Yorick|AFK: you could try @seen anh* too :P 19:36:35 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 19:41:15 *** toet [~Oblivious@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 19:41:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44:15 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 19:48:30 *** Yorick|AFK is now known as Yorick 19:48:36 <Yorick> @seen anh* 19:48:36 <DorpsGek> Yorick: I haven't seen anyone matching anh*. 19:48:42 <Yorick> @seen and* 19:48:42 <DorpsGek> Yorick: and* could be Andel (19 hours, 14 minutes, and 20 seconds ago), Andzy (6 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes, and 43 seconds ago), or AndyLQ (26 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 23 minutes, and 57 seconds ago) 19:49:17 * Prof_Frink is tempted to try @seen * 19:49:37 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 19:49:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 19:54:13 <Yorick> @seen * 19:54:14 <DorpsGek> Yorick: * could be <last> (4 minutes and 56 seconds ago), Prof_Frink (4 minutes and 56 seconds ago), Yorick (5 minutes and 31 seconds ago), LordAzamath (18 minutes and 28 seconds ago), Chrill (37 minutes and 26 seconds ago), Gonozal_VIII (37 minutes and 43 seconds ago), mmcbane (39 minutes and 32 seconds ago), peter1138 (42 minutes and 0 seconds ago), Amis (52 minutes and 53 seconds ago), Eddi|zuHause2 (54 minutes and (50 more messages) 19:54:17 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r6al232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 19:54:28 <Yorick> this way? 19:54:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> that makes you a lot of friends 19:54:48 *** Scorcerer [~angust@77-87-120-128.rev.masterkom.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:55:04 *** Yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm sorry, I didn't think of the highlight :O] 19:55:30 <LordAzamath> hmm... now what was the exact reason you hightlighted us? 19:56:10 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 19:57:16 *** mad_ [mad@fuckup.fhome.de] has joined #openttd 20:00:22 <valhallasw> 'because he can' 20:00:23 <valhallasw> :D 20:07:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> timetables and autoreplace don't mix properly... 20:10:26 <lekro> when I ping the coop public server I get 140ms round-trip. that shouldn't be too bad for joining the server, right? just asking because I'm investigating my "connection lost" errors I get as soon as I join. Or do you need a faster machine to join this server (I have a PPC 1.33GHz)? 20:14:00 <SmatZ> I don't know how fast is 1.33GHz PPC, but 1.3GHz x86 isn't fast enough for some openttdcoop games 20:14:46 <peter1138> correct 20:15:09 <lekro> it's a G4. then I guess this is the problem why I can't connect :/ 20:15:19 <peter1138> their games are too big, heh 20:15:31 <SmatZ> that's why I like them ;) 20:15:32 <hylje> openttd doesn't scale! :D 20:15:59 <Prof_Frink> Congratulations. You've made a 1994 game need 2004 hardware. 20:16:05 <Prof_Frink> I hope you're happy. 20:16:12 <peter1138> they also make horrible huge stations 20:16:23 <peter1138> Prof_Frink, very :) 20:16:31 <SmatZ> 256x256 with 80 trains runs perfectly on old hardware :-P 20:16:31 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: The term is "fuck-ugly" 20:16:46 <peter1138> now my next patch is to limit the map to 256x256 and with 80 trains... 20:16:51 <peter1138> SmatZ, bah! 20:17:03 <SmatZ> :) 20:17:10 <peter1138> the forum's screenshots section.. 20:17:13 <peter1138> ttdp: good shots 20:17:16 <peter1138> ottd: ugly shots 20:17:22 <peter1138> (mostly) 20:17:39 <peter1138> the ttdpers know how to crop to show detail 20:17:54 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:17:55 <hylje> ttdp has historically had more eyecandy stuff, no? 20:18:10 <hylje> beside the people 20:18:14 <peter1138> the ottders know how to make huge fuck-ugly stations and press ^S 20:18:21 <SmatZ> :)))) 20:18:21 <peter1138> (or just make jpgs, heh) 20:18:24 <Prof_Frink> It's more ttdp: I built this without any terraforming ottd: zomg 50x50 station with one train! 20:18:33 <peter1138> exactly 20:18:42 <hylje> zomg 20x10 station with 200 trains 20:19:23 <Maedhros> the impressive thing is that Rob does that, and yet his shots still look good 20:19:42 <Prof_Frink> Well, what Rob doesn't do is start a new game. 20:19:47 <Prof_Frink> EVER. 20:19:47 <Maedhros> hehe 20:19:56 <hylje> ottd crashes too often for that 20:19:58 <hylje> *ducks* 20:21:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11996 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1706]: update train statusbar when stopping from zero speed 20:21:19 <Prof_Frink> *grabs shotgun* 20:21:27 <Prof_Frink> *shoots ducks* 20:21:42 <hylje> *whosoh* 20:22:20 * Prof_Frink is now known as Frink_Tired 20:24:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, this long distance train on my single track totally screws up train order 20:26:53 <LordAzamath> good night 20:27:01 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27:05 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip157.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 20:27:13 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 20:30:08 *** Stoffe [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:33:43 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:38:07 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:38:54 <Wolf01> http://lh6.google.ca/abramsv/R5f8w-9Hg0I/AAAAAAAAEyw/Sgw-HD435f8/s800/1579699285_feacfa2d75_o.jpg mmmh 20:39:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> looks weird... 20:40:09 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Some folks are wise, and some otherwise.] 20:40:19 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:40:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i am missing a good livery right now... 20:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> local trains have the n-Wagon (Silverling) livery 20:40:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> electric long distance trains have the Rheingold II livery 20:41:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> but diesel long distance trains only can have the old green livery 20:42:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> i can't refit new wagons to the blue F-Train livery anymore 20:42:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the worst thing is, i can't get dining cars 20:42:37 <Bjarni> sounds like real life railroads 20:42:59 <Bjarni> they let the passengers go hungry without providing food >_< 20:43:33 <Wolf01> http://lh4.google.ca/abramsv/R5f8-e9HhQI/AAAAAAAAE2U/1MoXMLXwSLY/xlg_aero_ze.jpg?imgmax=512 looks steampunk 20:45:12 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:47:06 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5ECF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sounds totally logic to me, Wolf01 :p 20:48:17 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:48:17 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:20 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: good night] 20:48:29 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:15 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf is that thing 20:52:02 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:18 *** llugo [~lugo@p4FD5CDA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:35 *** xerxes [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:39 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:39 *** xerxes is now known as shodan 20:58:13 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@062249182162.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:09 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 21:05:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82D84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 21:06:11 <Phoenix_the_II> ./openttd -D 195.20.204.192 21:06:19 <Phoenix_the_II> that would run a dedicated @ that ip right? 21:06:44 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@062249182162.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 21:07:24 <peter1138> assuming that ip is bound to an interface, yeah 21:07:43 <Phoenix_the_II> yup 21:07:52 <Phoenix_the_II> dbg: [net] Listening on ŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠ Š:5315 21:07:52 <Phoenix_the_II> dbg: [net] [udp] listening on port 195.20.205.255:5315 21:07:52 <Phoenix_the_II> dbg: [net] Generating map, please wait... 21:07:56 <Phoenix_the_II> still i get this? :o 21:08:55 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> wtf is that thing <-- an airship 21:09:03 <Bjarni> I don't think they ever built them like that though 21:09:14 <Bjarni> but it looks interesting 21:09:20 <Bjarni> and might have worked well 21:09:55 <Bjarni> well... I don't think rotating the whole balloon is a good idea 21:10:08 <Bjarni> but the moving payload is an interesting concept 21:10:19 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82D84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:10:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:10:51 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't think that thing would have moved that way 21:11:23 <Bjarni> no the needed RPM on the balloon would be too high for sane construction 21:11:32 <Bjarni> it would work on water but not air 21:11:43 <Gonozal_VIII> yep 21:12:12 <Bjarni> but changing the pitch by moving the payload looks interesting 21:12:39 <Bjarni> then it would be good enough to control the rest on 2D rather than 3D 21:12:48 <Bjarni> they only need to turn and move forward 21:12:52 <Bjarni> no pitch control 21:13:50 <Bjarni> right now they increase or decrease balloons inside the balloon to gain pitch control. This concept might give the ability to take off with a higher payload as the whole balloon is in use all the time 21:13:53 <Gonozal_VIII> well... you have pitch control through the moving cabin... that's a lot more complicated then rotating engines 21:14:02 <hylje> what 21:14:34 <Bjarni> rotating engines will not gain the pitch control this will give 21:15:03 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm i think it would 21:15:04 <Bjarni> just moving the payload backwards will make the front tilt upwards. Rotating the engines will not tilt anything 21:15:29 <Gonozal_VIII> it will if you turn the front engines up ant the back engines down 21:16:00 <Bjarni> but that would use more energy than this system 21:16:04 <hylje> so there's a massive rail that moves the cabin relative to the balloon 21:16:35 <Bjarni> and if we design it to use as little fuel as possible then moving the payload once to gain a continuous effect is better 21:17:17 <Bjarni> hylje: yeah... the rail is too big. It could be made smaller. You don't need that size all the way 21:17:38 <Gonozal_VIII> you could also attach it with ropes and adjust the length for that... 21:17:42 <Wolf01> 'night 21:17:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:17:59 <Bjarni> I wouldn't trust ropes 21:18:06 <Bjarni> it's no fun if they break 21:18:22 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 21:18:30 <hylje> try wires 21:18:40 <Bjarni> ropes are more likely to break than the rail system 21:18:49 <Gonozal_VIII> no... 21:18:57 <Gonozal_VIII> they will use the same safety factors 21:19:01 <Bjarni> no? 21:19:38 <Gonozal_VIII> why would they be more likely to break? 21:19:51 <Gonozal_VIII> just because they look more fragile? 21:19:56 <Bjarni> I mean if the rails break then it would likely result in a jammed truck. If a rope fails then it's really bad 21:20:32 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@i59F7C4AC.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:57 <hylje> ropes involve more points of failure, but there's redundancy to make up for that 21:21:00 <Bjarni> ropes are like strings. You can gain full strength of them when you pull it. If you make the distance shorter then they are no good 21:21:00 <Gonozal_VIII> the rails on the picture wouldn't work, way too heavy, you would have to minimise that... if anything breaks then it would have the same results as a failing rope 21:21:14 <Bjarni> the metal framework will not do this 21:21:42 <Bjarni> and this affects the risk of sine reflected vibrations that can cause failures 21:23:13 <Bjarni> imagine we take a box and with 4 ropes we tie it to the roof 21:23:17 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess the best would be a combination of wires and pipes 21:23:22 <Bjarni> it's now floating in mid air 21:23:53 <Bjarni> if you push it then it will create a sine like movements until it comes to a stop at the static position 21:23:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F7C4AC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:24:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> great, now all my tracks are one continuous network 21:24:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> all tracks? no, one track in the north... 21:24:16 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 21:24:31 <Bjarni> if you connect it with metal pipes then the box will not move 21:24:44 <Bjarni> not even if you use the same strength of ropes/pipes 21:25:18 <Bjarni> the vibrations that are reflected are the dangerous ones because they can build up and become way more powerful 21:25:29 <Bjarni> metal pipes are less likely to suffer from this 21:25:48 <Bjarni> note: less likely is not the same as the problem is gone 21:26:26 <Prof_Frink> Well, there's only one way where the problem to disappear completely. 21:26:34 <Bjarni> not flying? 21:26:50 <Gonozal_VIII> don't move the payload^^ 21:26:53 <Prof_Frink> "Sod it, let's build something else." 21:27:12 <Bjarni> but then you would have problems with something else 21:27:22 <Bjarni> how about not move around at all? 21:27:36 <Prof_Frink> "Sod it, tea break." 21:28:52 <Bjarni> got it 21:28:53 <Bjarni> bbl 21:29:01 * Bjarni takes his tea break 21:33:01 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 21:39:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N833P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:44:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> now i have a beautiful cross-map track that i can electrify once i get BR 103 ;) 21:52:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> needs a little touching up for double-track-ness 21:53:43 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:57:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> how do i report language bugs? 21:57:41 <Chrill> ask the translators of said language? :S 21:57:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Neuer Kohlebergwerk wird nahe [...] gebaut!" 21:58:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> should be "neues" [gender error] 21:59:00 <Chrill> ask German translators? :P 21:59:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> you got one spare? ;) 21:59:30 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i59F572B5.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:59:34 <Chrill> no idea who does German 21:59:40 <Chrill> I do Swedish, tho, but that wont help you :P 22:01:08 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause2: but i guess the Kohlebergwerk is a variable and can be something else, and therefore cannot be fixed that easily. 22:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: the system can do it 22:01:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> it has support for cases and genders 22:01:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> they just have to be defined properly 22:01:54 <ln-> hmm, clever. 22:03:05 *** globester [~woot@cc55302-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:24 <ln-> you'll have to live with it, there's no good way to complain about translations, except writing an email. 22:04:36 <Rubidium_> Eddi|zuHause2: using ECS? 22:04:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... no, alpine 22:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> but indeed, that can explain it 22:05:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> gender won't be defined in the grf 22:06:54 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:42 <Rubidium_> is it okay when you do not load the grf? 22:10:41 <peter1138> goodnight 22:11:19 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 22:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> industries open too rarely ;) 22:15:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> 10 month on FF, and only one new industry 22:16:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Neuer Bauernhof", but that might be incidentally correct... 22:16:50 <Chrill> DJ Chrill @ TGS Radio | Quakenet #TGS.Radio | www.tgsradio.com | Request music @ IRC 22:17:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> Quiet! 22:17:21 <Chrill> Loud! 22:17:35 <Rubidium_> Eddi|zuHause2: the news message should also show when you build one yourself (or prospect one) 22:17:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> i tried with building myself, didn't show 22:18:10 <Rubidium_> prospecting should show though 22:18:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, with prospecting it does 22:18:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> still incorrect 22:18:32 <Rubidium_> odd 22:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's worse with oil wells, it should be "Neue [...] werden [...]" (plural) 22:20:59 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N833P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 22:21:32 <Gonozal_VIII> my attempts to resolve conflicts get more and more random... 22:23:58 <Rubidium_> Eddi|zuHause2: can't find something obviously wrong myself (don't know enough about the whole gender system) 22:25:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Bauernhof" should be male, "Bergwerk" [any of them] should be neutral, "Ãlquellen" should be plural (female, but that is irrelevant) 22:26:07 <ln-> does any language have more than three genders? 22:26:34 <Rubidium_> ln-: yes 22:27:18 <ln-> any that you can name? 22:27:28 <Rubidium_> ukranian 22:27:46 <ln-> what's the fourth? 22:28:00 <Rubidium_> no idea, it's just that the translation file specifies 4 22:28:35 <Rubidium_> russian too 22:30:17 <Rubidium_> Eddi|zuHause2: are the string correct in 0.5.3? 22:30:43 <Gonozal_VIII> what revision was that c++ thingy? 22:30:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: late 8xxx i believe 22:30:56 <ln-> russian certainly has only 3 genders, and quite probably so does ukrainian. 22:31:18 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:21 <glx> ln-: french language specifies 3 genders too 22:31:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gonozal_VIII: but you also have the makefile rewrite that'll kill your patch 22:31:32 <glx> but 2 of them are male 22:31:42 <Gonozal_VIII> and update to r8000 deleted all files... 22:31:51 <ln-> glx: the straight male and the.... no. what's the other one? :) 22:31:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: "genders" can be used for different things than actual genders 22:32:17 <ln-> glx: or what's the difference. 22:32:28 <glx> it's used as a trick for "le" "la" "l'" 22:32:43 <Gonozal_VIII> deleted all files as in everything i've done so far is gone^^ 22:32:46 <Gonozal_VIII> yay 22:33:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> Rubidium_: 0.5.3 is an awfully long time ago ;) 22:33:45 <Rubidium_> Eddi|zuHause2: true 22:33:54 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause2: still, extracting linguistical information from openttd translations is not very reliable. :) 22:34:08 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r6al232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34:10 <Rubidium_> but I have no idea whether it once worked or not and when it then might've been broken 22:35:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> now that i am looking at it, the strings seem mostly correct 22:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> except for the plural thingie of the oil wells 22:35:52 <Gonozal_VIII> then change it to ölquelle ;-) 22:36:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F7C4AC.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> but since it is now not a language bug, i will post it at flyspray 22:36:38 <Gonozal_VIII> flyspray for a grf bug? 22:37:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not a grf bug either 22:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> i tried without grf 22:37:43 <Gonozal_VIII> then what is it? 22:38:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> a bug with the string system? 22:38:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F7C4AC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> the strings correctly say {G=n} etc. 22:39:19 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess you're not supposed to use plural there 22:39:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the "superstring" says 'neue{G r "" s}' correctly 22:39:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it always uses the first (male) form 22:39:49 <Gonozal_VIII> ah 22:39:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> the "fix" for plural is rather easy 22:40:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> just add another gender 22:40:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> at the beginning of the file 22:40:52 <Gonozal_VIII> zwitter? 22:41:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> ich zwitter dir auch gleich einen... 22:42:10 <Gonozal_VIII> i've spent the whole day shuffling around code that i mostly didn't understand and it's all gone now^^ 22:42:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, you should have known ;) 22:43:08 <Gonozal_VIII> wouldn't have worked anyways, sometimes i just guessed how to resolve something but it kind of sucks^^ 22:44:40 <Gonozal_VIII> soooo what do i do now? 22:45:15 <Rubidium_> restore the backup you made before you synced to r8000 22:45:44 <Gonozal_VIII> would have been a smart thing to make one, right? 22:45:46 <Rubidium_> and search the logs to find out when the makefile rewrite file move hit trunk 22:46:54 <Rubidium_> it's rather standard practise and not something particulary 'smart' to do 22:47:29 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't know that it just deletes modified files without asking 22:49:24 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: it way be a bug in language file too 22:50:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: yeah, but it looks ok in the language file 22:50:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> it'd be nice if someone could confirm it for another language 22:50:55 <glx> check http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Format_of_langfiles#Advanced_use 22:51:01 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:53:01 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 23:00:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:16 <Phoenix_the_II> hmm Bjarni, DorpsGek, orudge 23:01:27 <Phoenix_the_II> i cant seem to get my dedi server working 23:01:28 <Gonozal_VIII> ? 23:01:40 <Gonozal_VIII> dorpsgek? 23:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is how you should _not_ do it, kids ;) 23:01:48 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm sure he'll help you 23:01:59 <Phoenix_the_II> Eddi|zuHause2 wtf? 23:02:18 <valhallasw> 'highlight everyone, they might help you' 23:02:28 <Phoenix_the_II> i'm thinking the problems lies within multiple address on the server 23:03:02 <Gonozal_VIII> talk to dorpsgek, he knows everything about your problem 23:03:16 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 23:03:17 <Phoenix_the_II> well im guessing the @'s are the dev's, since the same config is working on a single IP server 23:03:30 <Phoenix_the_II> and it's not working on a server with multiple IP's 23:03:30 <Phoenix_the_II> :P 23:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, but your guess is totally off :p 23:03:43 <glx> you may need to set bind_ip in cfg 23:03:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> and you are not looking for defs, but for experienced administrators 23:04:04 <Phoenix_the_II> server_bind_ip = 195.20.204.192 23:04:05 <Phoenix_the_II> server_port = 50000 23:04:07 <Phoenix_the_II> :P 23:05:11 <Phoenix_the_II> lemme nopaste the startup 23:05:44 <Phoenix_the_II> http://rafb.net/p/U8nWO878.html 23:08:17 <Phoenix_the_II> :o 23:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> you sure it uses the config file you have? 23:11:03 <Phoenix_the_II> i gave the -c openttd.cfg parameter with it now 23:11:05 <Phoenix_the_II> same output 23:11:18 <Rubidium_> how many interfaces do you have? 23:11:29 <Phoenix_the_II> 64 23:12:21 <glx> all in the same subnet? 23:12:27 <Phoenix_the_II> yes 23:12:28 <ln-> when will the next channel meeting be held, and where? 23:12:52 <Phoenix_the_II> i got the IP range 195.20.204.192/24 23:12:55 <Phoenix_the_II> err 23:12:57 <Phoenix_the_II> i got the IP range 195.20.204.192/26 23:12:58 <Phoenix_the_II> ;P 23:13:20 <Phoenix_the_II> thats .192 trough 254 23:13:25 <Rubidium_> then the broadcast address is totally wrong 23:13:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> why does it say 205 then? 23:14:28 <Phoenix_the_II> 195.20.204.255 is no broadcast IP :p 23:14:55 <Phoenix_the_II> iface eth0 inet static 23:14:55 <Phoenix_the_II> address 195.20.204.192 23:14:55 <Phoenix_the_II> netmask 255.255.254.0 23:14:55 <Phoenix_the_II> gateway 195.20.204.1 23:15:04 <Phoenix_the_II> this goes on till .254 :) 23:15:27 <Rubidium_> you configured a /23 network there 23:15:47 <Rubidium_> not a /26 network 23:15:58 <Phoenix_the_II> yes, because im inside a /23 network 23:16:23 <Phoenix_the_II> my ISP gave me a /26 inside that /23 23:17:28 <Phoenix_the_II> and 195.20.204.255 is a unused IP address 23:19:00 <Phoenix_the_II> :o 23:21:12 <Phoenix_the_II> Rubidium_ 23:21:14 <Phoenix_the_II> ? :o 23:23:40 <Rubidium_> I am out of ideas why it does not work (and I do not host a server) 23:24:01 <Phoenix_the_II> heh ok thx :) 23:33:34 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:33:59 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1750.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Windows shutdown) ((~_~]"] 23:34:06 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:35:46 <ln-> when will the next channel meeting be held, and where in europe? 23:39:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: you volunteering? ;) 23:40:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> www.informatik.uni.halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2024.%20Dez%201963.png <- ain't it beatiful? 23:41:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2024.%20Dez%201963.png 23:42:53 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause2: i realize turku is not the centre of the universe, and thus not the optimal place. 23:44:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have 3 steam engines left... 23:46:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:49:21 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm imho the waggons are a bit too randomly mixed 23:51:08 <ln-> ok, let's have a channel meeting in Berlin, two months from now. 23:51:23 <ln-> west 23:51:49 <Gonozal_VIII> you think they'll let eddi cross the border? 23:52:24 <ln-> for such a good reason, why not. 23:53:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i could try via the embassy in Prag or Warschau ;) 23:54:20 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:54:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> isn't easter two months from now? 23:55:03 <ln-> it's possible. 23:55:17 <ln-> at least i don't remember having an easter this year yet. :) 23:55:29 <Gonozal_VIII> i do 23:55:54 <Gonozal_VIII> they are selling easter eggs since about two weeks 23:57:22 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:57:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:58:28 <Gonozal_VIII> and i guess they'll keep selling them until it's time to change to halloween crap... 23:58:56 <Gonozal_VIII> as a child i didn't even know what halloween was 23:59:29 <Gonozal_VIII> and i should know, i'm born on that day 23:59:42 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai^zZz`off