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00:03:57 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 00:06:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CC8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16:19 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 00:17:35 <glx> <Phantasm> What significant updates are there in current nighty build compared to 0.6.0-beta3? <-- a fatal bug fix 00:17:54 <Phantasm> What kind of a bug? 00:18:08 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 00:18:09 <dragonhorseboy> hey ;) 00:18:44 <glx> a bug reported at least 10 times in bug tracker 00:21:48 <Phantasm> Eddi|zuHause3: Thx. That however doesn't allow the freedom of cycling between 2 sets. 00:23:15 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F202D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 00:23:23 <Phantasm> In my case though there are 2 fixed settings and other are opposite on the 2 cases, so locking those 2 to the wanted ones and using x will luckily work. 00:23:25 <dragonhorseboy> cycling 2 sets....? 00:24:44 <Phantasm> As in if I want set 1 to be '00001111' and set 2 to be '00110000', it would be nice to be able to save such sets and toggle between them easily. 00:25:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, provide a patch ;) 00:25:09 <Phantasm> Currently it seems there isn't anything else than locking of settings + swapping every unlocked one. 00:25:19 <Phantasm> Will not. 00:25:28 <Phantasm> I will just whine, but not provide patches. 00:26:13 <Phantasm> Would take too much work to properly learn some coding (well, I know some, but not really anything). 00:26:19 *** TGS`Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 00:26:31 *** TGS`Chrill is now known as Chrill 00:29:11 <Phantasm> And we have a channel full of willing coders. :) 00:32:26 * Chrill codes Phantasm to Jupiter 00:34:04 <dragonhorseboy> just had to ask - anyone use grfcodec in here? 00:37:54 <dragonhorseboy> hm no? heh 00:39:01 <Belugas> some have used it, some do use it, some will use it 00:39:45 <dragonhorseboy> well I'm just curious if its just grfcodec not thinking dos/win straight or is it normal to get certain pcx's with pink colours over some sprites? 00:39:51 <glx> you have no other choice if you want to make grfs 00:40:19 <glx> pink color is your fault :) 00:40:28 <dragonhorseboy> hmmm 00:40:34 <glx> use -p 00:40:52 <dragonhorseboy> funny that it works fine on many win grfs .. wonder whats up with certain openttd ones 00:41:04 <dragonhorseboy> (as in some are fine, some shows the pinks) 00:41:35 <glx> we have some known color problems with openttdd.grf 00:41:39 <dragonhorseboy> so I'll have to do as '-d -p 2 thisgrf.grf' instead I presume right? 00:41:49 <Belugas> uyp 00:41:53 <glx> if it's a win grf yes 00:41:53 <Belugas> or... 00:41:55 <Belugas> yup 00:42:54 <dragonhorseboy> that works this time..thanks 00:44:02 <Belugas> ad will next time too 00:44:17 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:45:05 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:45:24 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:46:05 <dragonhorseboy> yeah..thats a bit funny tho... 00:46:16 <dragonhorseboy> some openttd can be just -d .. others needs -p2 added 00:46:27 <dragonhorseboy> but oh well who's going to ask when the pcx comes out fine anyway 00:49:49 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789BA.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:49 <Phantasm> Oh yea, and sometimes new windows open partly outside the screen. 00:53:05 <Phantasm> And it would be nice to be able to disable automatic appearance of the finiance screen when year changes. 00:53:22 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: YOU DID NOT LOSE THE GAME AT ALL] 00:53:54 <glx> <Phantasm> And it would be nice to be able to disable automatic appearance of the finiance screen when year changes. <-- already possible 00:54:02 <Phantasm> How? 00:54:11 <glx> patches settings 00:54:51 <glx> it's the third in interface tab 00:55:09 <dragonhorseboy> hm allright got the fixed pcxs I needed for now anyway 00:55:10 <Phantasm> Ah it is. Was too quick to check out if there is anything new there when going to nightly build from beta3. 00:55:11 <dragonhorseboy> thanks a lot :p 00:55:36 <Phantasm> It would also be nice that the changes to settings would be saved other than when quitting the game. 00:55:38 <glx> and it's not new 00:55:50 <Phantasm> That is the 'permanent' settings modified before going to game. 00:56:00 <Phantasm> Then I must have missed it both now and earlier. ;P 00:57:08 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: SHACK SHACK! Nobody lost the sodding game] 00:58:19 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 00:58:43 <Phantasm> Bah.. Only 151 000 ⬠from a single trip on 9 wood wagons train on 1969.. And I went all the trouble making 1773 squares long route.. ;P 00:59:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:00:12 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:15 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:02:00 <Phantasm> Ahaha. I sure got a nice idea! Would be neat to be able to automatically do the following: Full load at station a, unload at station b, sell and buy a new one to start from station a. 01:03:08 <dragonhorseboy> well I'm off for now 01:03:13 <Phantasm> Would allow a track without any return route and on a very long route it might actually be worth it.. :) 01:03:19 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 01:04:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-224-54.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:04:31 <Axamentia> Phantasm wghy on earth would you do that? 01:04:50 <Axamentia> It would be costly with engine cost, far outweighing income from goods 01:06:47 <Phantasm> Axamentia: With XS 2400 (Diesel), designed 1965, the price drop on a 1773 squares route is about 20% of the profit. 01:07:02 <Phantasm> With faster trains the price is higher, but so is speed.. Not sure how much it would change from that.. 01:08:03 <Phantasm> Anyway, the reason for that is to get the rating boost from having a new train there. 01:08:48 <Phantasm> And also not having to make another track for returning trains. 01:09:48 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-52-195.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:10:08 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-52-195.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 01:10:53 <Phantasm> Assuming around 80% rating without the boost, 93% with new train would give 16.25% more goods to transport. Also it might affect the output increase on the primary industry to have outstanding rating instead of just excellent. 01:13:06 <Phantasm> Also you save running costs of returning. 01:21:46 <Axamentia> laters 01:22:13 *** Axamentia [~SlayerRag@78-105-140-209.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Triplets, More triplets and palm muting...] 01:22:54 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:24:42 <Phantasm> Ok I did some calculations.. With CS 2400 (Diesel) the profit is both no matter if you use it normally or sell the train after one way trip. So effectively there would be 2 differencies.. First being not needing the other track for returning and second being the extra 16% cargo transported and thus 16% more cargo to transport off the factory in case it produces something. 01:25:27 <Phantasm> And that is with engine + 9 wagons. 01:25:59 <Phantasm> Now let's see for engine + 19 wagons. 01:35:39 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:39:11 *** Christoph [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:42:03 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75105.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:45:56 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.105.44] has joined #openttd 02:08:13 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 02:13:12 *** Species8472 [~nnscript@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 02:15:51 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:51 *** globester [H@cc363166-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [] 02:21:02 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:44:26 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 02:44:31 <dragonhorseboy> hey again :p 02:55:48 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.105.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:03:34 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:03:35 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:49 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@137.81.113.87] has joined #openttd 03:23:05 <dragonhorseboy> hey ridayah 03:23:11 <Ridayah> Hey. 03:23:14 <dragonhorseboy> how're you? 03:23:25 <Ridayah> Fine. Setting up for the night before doing homework. 03:24:38 <dragonhorseboy> heh ok 03:27:04 <dragonhorseboy> what time is it for you? 03:28:25 <Ridayah> Late at night. 03:28:55 <dragonhorseboy> 10:29pm too hm? 03:29:53 <Ridayah> Ha, stop fishing for personal information. 03:32:01 <dragonhorseboy> what? 03:32:26 <dragonhorseboy> next time tell me an actual number hm? :p (rather than just "late at night") 03:32:28 <dragonhorseboy> hehe 03:32:29 <Ridayah> I'm not interested in giving out data that could identify me, thanks :) 03:32:35 <Ridayah> I don't have to tell you anything. 03:32:40 <dragonhorseboy> umm...why are you online then? 03:33:09 <Ridayah> Why are you so curious? 03:36:41 <dragonhorseboy> 1. there's nothing wrong with giving actual time otherwise 2. have to look up your whois and see whats the location to check with worldtime.com then 03:36:47 <dragonhorseboy> ^_^ 03:37:57 <Ridayah> If you care that much, do it that way, but I won't give it away. :) 03:38:17 <Ridayah> Now, I have things to do. Goodbye. 03:39:21 * dragonhorseboy wonders why he's thinking 'giving time' is "identify me" but decides there's better people to talk with instead 03:40:48 <dragonhorseboy> think I'm going to bed anyhow 03:40:52 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 03:50:11 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:13:57 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has quit [Server closed connection] 04:14:00 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 04:14:32 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:18:43 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:50:17 *** neli [micha@h8441250184.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 04:50:20 *** neli [micha@h8441250184.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 05:02:33 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:09:26 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05:34:24 <Phantasm> There is some bug in cargo payments. 1773 long route is paying around one fourth of what it is supposed to be paying. 05:34:46 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:35:21 <Phantasm> Both comparing to shorter route in same game and other long (~800) routes on other games. 05:36:09 <Phantasm> Using nightly build for windows downloaded from 6-7 hours ago. 05:37:16 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:37:46 <Phantasm> Is there some maximum length on a route and thus it ends up paying for much smaller distance than it is supposed to and thus the speed also goes much slower reducing the payment as well? 05:38:06 <Gonozal_VIII> cargo packets have a maximum age of 255 days... 05:38:50 <Phantasm> If it takes more than 255 days to travel to target the payment will go weird? 05:39:00 <Phantasm> As it does take more than that for 1773 squares. 05:39:26 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know exactly what happens then 05:41:04 <Gonozal_VIII> nappe is working on a cure for that illness 05:44:19 *** Nicko[work] [~kvirc@nat3.4c.ru] has quit [Server closed connection] 05:44:30 *** Nicko[work] [~kvirc@nat3.4c.ru] has joined #openttd 05:53:16 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:56:59 *** Greyscale [bnc@81.171.136.146] has quit [Server closed connection] 05:57:00 *** Greyscale_ [bnc@81.171.136.146] has joined #openttd 06:09:49 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-165-76.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:19:49 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB455C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 06:23:02 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@i577B66B0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:25:27 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B5092.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:33:43 *** 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has joined #openttd 08:05:22 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 08:05:28 <darx> hi.. how do i construct stuff? i can't place stuff by clicking. 08:05:52 <darx> i need to learn how to play this game. :-( 08:06:03 <Gonozal_VIII> you have to select what you want to build first... 08:06:17 <darx> i did that 08:06:35 <darx> from the menu on the top and the cursor changes to indicate what is selected 08:06:38 <darx> then what? 08:06:49 <Gonozal_VIII> can't build in pause without cheat 08:06:56 <darx> ah.. 08:07:31 <darx> thanks. 08:08:37 <darx> also how do i remove some thing that i've just build? 08:09:13 <Gonozal_VIII> dynamite removes everything and the bulldozer thing active together with a build tool removes only that 08:11:54 <darx> ok i just constructed a rail section complete with depots now how do i add a train and start moving goods around? 08:13:26 *** dfahsah [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 08:13:26 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1363 08:13:27 *** dfahsah is now known as Gonozal_VIII 08:14:07 <darx> Guest1363: how do it do that ^^ 08:14:20 <Gonozal_VIII> what part of it? 08:14:58 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... stupid disconnection 08:15:08 <Gonozal_VIII> you need to build stations near the source and destination and connect them and buy a train in a depot 08:15:26 <darx> do i have to place a train or would that be automatic? 08:15:30 <darx> i can't find a train 08:15:53 <Gonozal_VIII> click on the depot 08:20:21 *** Guest1363 [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:39 <darx> ok.. i added a few bogeys and an engine.. now its running without any orders. how do i add orders? 08:20:56 <Gonozal_VIII> click on the train 08:21:34 <darx> and? 08:21:37 <Gonozal_VIII> see the yellow broken arrow? 08:21:48 <Gonozal_VIII> that's where the orders are 08:22:01 <darx> its all greyed out except the go to 08:22:21 <Gonozal_VIII> then use that ;-) 08:22:45 <darx> whats it for? 08:23:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:23:08 <Gonozal_VIII> click there and then on a station 08:23:22 <Gonozal_VIII> then you ordered the train to go to that station ;-) 08:24:02 <darx> yeah but the carts are empty 08:25:28 <Gonozal_VIII> the station starts to recieve cargo after the first train was there 08:25:55 <Gonozal_VIII> you can use full load to avoid letting the train run around empty 08:29:37 *** asgsgas [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 08:29:38 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1367 08:29:38 *** asgsgas is now known as Gonozal_VIII 08:35:36 *** Guest1367 [~Gonozal_V@N760P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:29 *** Christoph [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:48:37 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 08:49:51 *** Gonozal_VIII 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automatic reconnect takes almost 10 minutes.. 11:38:12 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F21E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:38:54 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:39:37 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:21 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:42:21 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1377 11:42:22 *** Gonozal is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:46:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> solution is easy: do not disconnect that often ;) 11:46:56 *** Guest1377 [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:03 <Gonozal_VIII> as if that was my choice :P 11:49:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> everything is your choice 11:55:54 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:55:54 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1378 11:55:55 *** Gonozal is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:59:13 *** Guest1378 [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01:19 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 12:07:06 <yorick> something seems to happen when closing the newgrf selection window... 12:07:28 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, the window is gone 12:07:44 <yorick> no, it applies everythings 12:07:47 <yorick> -s 12:07:55 <yorick> like when clicking on apply 12:08:40 <yorick> something that has effect on a grf'd tiltle screen 12:08:56 <yorick> all graphics get reverted no normal and animation stops 12:13:28 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:31 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:31 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 12:15:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 12:16:19 <yorick> it should not execute ReloadNewGRFData when on main screen 12:17:38 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:23:21 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:36 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:45 <peter1138> It's something to do with town name support... 12:26:15 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 12:27:34 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:35:36 <yorick> http://paste.openttd.org/560 <-- this patch will hopefully fix my problem 12:36:04 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:36:05 *** DJ-Nekk|d [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 12:39:41 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:40:07 *** Nitehawk 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Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:51:34 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:51:36 <Yorick> Peter1123: explain to me how that would break town naming... 13:52:41 <peter1138> There is some magic involved so that NewGRF town names can appear in the town name drop down list. Obviously that has to happen before a game is started. 13:53:15 <Gonozal_VIII> start screen doesn't have any town names 13:54:09 <Yorick> well...find me a way to stop the newgrf settings dialogue from breaking the intro game when clicked on apply 13:54:50 <Gonozal_VIII> never broke it for me 13:55:09 <Yorick> a intro game with grfs ;) 14:00:51 <peter1138> Just have an intro game without grfs :p 14:01:25 <Yorick> not an option 14:01:35 <Yorick> looks ugly :r 14:02:51 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:13 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:07:27 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:15:07 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 14:15:23 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:16:49 *** frosch123 [~mtce@newton.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 14:17:33 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip208.cab23.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:18:14 <glx> Yorick: it's needed for actionF grfs 14:18:47 <glx> they must be loaded in intro, and saved in running games too 14:19:19 <LordAzamath> Hello 14:20:04 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip208.cab23.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [] 14:22:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12129 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): -Change [FS#1759]: simplified patch settings for pathfinders (Yorick) 14:22:03 <Yorick> :) 14:22:07 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:22:11 <Yorick> thanks SmatZ! 14:22:37 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 14:23:37 <SmatZ> nice patch :) 14:24:04 <Gonozal_VIII> what version did you use? 14:24:13 <Gonozal_VIII> the one i changed? 14:24:25 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: well, I used that one you changed,but I had to do further changes... 14:24:31 <Yorick> :O 14:25:17 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 14:25:25 <Gonozal_VIII> can't find the change online.. where is that? 14:25:40 <Yorick> find git.openttd.org 14:25:45 <Yorick> it has diffs 14:26:25 <Gonozal_VIII> 4 hours ago... 14:26:31 <Yorick> :D 14:26:53 <Gonozal_VIII> ah there it is 14:26:54 <Yorick> he changed the if-else structure you changed in openttd.cpp 14:27:35 <Gonozal_VIII> the ( ) are needed? 14:27:46 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't use that ? : stuff much 14:28:13 <Yorick> _patches.pathfinder_for_ships = (_patches.new_pathfinding_all ? VPF_NPF : VPF_OPF); 14:28:26 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, additional () 14:28:46 <peter1138> they're not needed but sometimes make things clearer 14:29:18 <Gonozal_VIII> ok :-) 14:31:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12130 /trunk/src/lang/ (38 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup (r12129): remove now unused strings from all language files 14:32:32 <Yorick> yes, that is needed too, I found out during compiling the new langfiles 14:32:45 <Yorick> it gives a warning about strings that dont exist in the master file 14:33:35 <Gonozal_VIII> isn't there a easy way to change all lang files in one go? 14:33:54 <Yorick> maybe with some script 14:34:05 <glx> grep or perl :) 14:34:40 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm yes... a script that only reads the left side.. that's the same everywhere so it can just do the same everywhere :-) 14:35:03 <SmatZ> for i in *.txt unfinished/*.txt ; do mv $i ttt ; cat ttt | grep -v > $i ; rm ttt ; done 14:35:08 <SmatZ> though it is not fully automatic 14:35:15 <SpComb> cat abuse 14:35:29 <SmatZ> okaaay 14:35:37 <SmatZ> :-D 14:35:38 <Gonozal_VIII> no idea what that is^^ 14:35:44 <Gonozal_VIII> but i like cats 14:35:47 <SmatZ> lol 14:35:52 <SpComb> and you could stick the rm ttt outside of the loop or something 14:36:15 <SmatZ> true 14:36:26 * SmatZ isn't skilled in scripting :) 14:36:40 <Gonozal_VIII> what language is that anyways? 14:36:55 <peter1138> perl -pi -e 's/STR_foo.*\n//g' *.txt 14:38:04 <Gonozal_VIII> why didn't belugas use that to change that varname in every file yesterday? 14:38:28 <Yorick> he was not @ home 14:38:31 <peter1138> probably Belugas does not have perl, heh 14:38:48 <Yorick> well...as if I do... 14:39:02 <peter1138> ... 14:39:23 <Forked> dot match! 14:39:26 <Forked> go..... 14:39:28 <Forked> <-in the lead 14:39:31 <Yorick> I know someone that believes you can make programs out of perl :-P 14:39:46 * keyweed raises hand 14:40:00 <keyweed> you can run entire isps on perl 14:40:32 <Yorick> but they don't have a gui, do they? 14:40:50 <glx> who needs gui? 14:40:55 <Yorick> openttd 14:40:56 <Forked> hmm.. asciittd 14:41:04 <Forked> ====== <- guess what it is 14:41:07 <keyweed> command line openttd. ... *ponders* 14:41:09 <Gonozal_VIII> how do you get/use perl? 14:41:24 <Yorick> download activeperl from activestate (windows) 14:41:47 <keyweed> most os'es come with perl 14:42:00 <glx> windows comes with IE 14:42:03 <Yorick> [15:41] <Yorick> download activeperl from activestate (windows) 14:42:09 <Yorick> and windows media player 14:42:11 <glx> can't have anything :) 14:42:32 <Gonozal_VIII> that's not free... 14:42:40 <Yorick> it is 14:42:47 <keyweed> perl is free 14:42:50 <Yorick> only the enterprise edition isn't 14:43:47 <Gonozal_VIII> i see only free trial stuff there 14:44:22 <keyweed> i don't understand windows users. 14:44:46 <Gonozal_VIII> ah there 14:45:11 <Yorick> http://www.activestate.com/Products/activeperl/ 14:45:42 <Yorick> keyweed: I'm not a volunteer, but this PC came with windows, and I can't install something else 14:46:00 <Gonozal_VIII> circling around on that site for some time now, click click click, i'm back where i started 14:46:12 <Yorick> laptops usually lack linux drivers 14:46:20 <keyweed> Yorick: can't as in "not allowed" or "unable to" or "physicly impossible" ? 14:46:32 <keyweed> Yorick: drivers ?!@?!@!?1 14:46:38 <keyweed> what would you need drivers for ????? 14:46:49 * keyweed cries loudly and runs for the hills 14:46:50 <Yorick> http://www.activestate.com/store/download.aspx?prdGUID=81fbce82-6bd5-49bc-a915-08d58c2648ca 14:47:27 <Yorick> as in "not allowed", drivers are needed for laptops with builtin webcams, WLAN, keyboards, touchpads, do I need to say more? 14:48:24 <keyweed> ever tried burning an ubuntu live cd to see if it works? 14:48:30 <Yorick> Gonozal_VIII: http://www.activestate.com/store/download.aspx?prdGUID=81fbce82-6bd5-49bc-a915-08d58c2648ca <-- I recommend the 5.8 thingy, because their teapot thingy is broken 14:48:36 <Yorick> nope... 14:48:41 <keyweed> Yorick: you should 14:48:43 <Yorick> no DVD burners here 14:48:50 <keyweed> very likely everything will "just work" 14:48:50 <Gonozal_VIII> asi msi :S 14:49:03 <Yorick> try MSI 14:49:23 <Gonozal_VIII> what does asi and msi mean? 14:49:42 <Yorick> the asi package is some scripted buggy installer 14:49:42 <Gonozal_VIII> and wtf is a teapot?^^ 14:50:16 <Yorick> teapot is the utility they want you to download packages with from version 5.10 14:53:22 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 14:53:24 <dragonhorseboy> hey ;) 14:53:34 <Yorick> hello 14:53:40 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 14:53:56 <Yorick> don't ask me how I know these things... 14:54:26 <dragonhorseboy> so how're both of you today? 14:54:41 <Yorick> my patch got trunkanized :) 14:55:02 <Gonozal_VIII> head hurts, didn't sleep too well 14:55:36 <dragonhorseboy> ic gonozal 14:55:46 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:56:04 <dragonhorseboy> well not much for me otherwise..just a typical morning for now 14:56:14 <dragonhorseboy> leaving in a bit less than a hour for doctor just to ask some things tho 14:59:44 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-249-181.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 15:00:08 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:00:24 <Yorick> download time estimate for ubuntu: 3 minutes :O 15:00:43 <dragonhorseboy> hehe 15:00:47 <Yorick> 2.40 mb/s 15:02:26 <Yorick> this internet connection finally seems to be usefull for once 15:03:32 <ln-> is that mb or Mb or MB? 15:03:48 <Gonozal_VIII> milibyte :D 15:03:54 <dragonhorseboy> hehehe 15:04:01 <dragonhorseboy> Mega Bites :p 15:04:24 <Yorick> if ubuntu appears to be 695 mb using that scale 15:05:06 *** Christoph [~lekro@s01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:06 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [] 15:05:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 15:07:31 <Yorick> I think its megabyte 15:07:51 <Gonozal_VIII> milibit is funnier 15:08:21 <Yorick> I would be all happy if it was only 700 kb/s... 15:09:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> i would be happy if i had 70kb/s 15:09:33 <Yorick> :O 15:10:14 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 15:10:35 <Gonozal_VIII> had ~300 kb/s today with that terminator thingy 15:11:54 <Yorick> well...now its gonna merge the file from 6 to one... 15:12:51 * Yorick has finished and resets other downloads 15:18:02 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-062-062.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21:58 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:26:56 *** izhirahider [~izhirahid@izhirahider.user.oftc.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:26:59 *** izhirahider [~izhirahid@squareroot.divisionbyzero.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:51 <Belugas> [09:38] <Gonozal_VIII> why didn't belugas use that to change that varname in every file yesterday? <--- Indeed i was not at home and indeed i do not have perl and indeed i do not know how to program perl. Nor do i want to :S 15:33:07 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 15:33:10 <Gonozal_VIII> hi belugas 15:33:25 <Yorick> hi 15:34:49 <dragonhorseboy> going for now so bye till later ;) 15:34:51 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 15:37:37 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 15:38:06 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:41:55 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B806F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:04 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489DD52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:43:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80408.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:43:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:44:44 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-065-185-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:50 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-065-185-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:42 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-065-185-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:47:27 <Yorick> the 135 degree turns for aircraft are still there ^^ 15:47:50 <Yorick> but now in 2 steps :D 15:49:38 <dih> ! 15:50:07 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B82B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:53 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:53:12 <Yorick> @openttd commit r12129 15:53:12 <DorpsGek> Yorick: Invalid arguments for _commit. 15:53:15 <Yorick> @openttd commit 12129 15:53:16 <DorpsGek> Yorick: Commit by smatz :: r12129 /trunk/src (11 files in 2 dirs) (2008-02-13 14:21:36 UTC) 15:53:17 <DorpsGek> Yorick: -Change [FS#1759]: simplified patch settings for pathfinders (Yorick) 16:12:48 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:05 *** nfc [~nfc@88.195.110.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> you wanna just look at it for one more time or are you going to brag about it, too? :p 16:21:04 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:26:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N818P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:21 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CC36.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:25 <fjb> Hello 16:30:32 <Yorick> hello 16:31:33 <keyweed> Hello 16:32:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> 'ello 16:32:34 <SmatZ> hello 16:33:15 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-249-181.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:33:22 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-249-181.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 16:34:07 <fjb> How is prospecting a new ore mine working? Does the game chose a random tile and then looks if it can build the mine there? 16:34:27 <Yorick> and if it can't, it finds another random tile, I think 16:35:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> same as generating a random industry 16:36:31 <fjb> I tried it some times now and I never got a new mine, only wasted the mony. My wolrd is hilly, that makes it difficult. 16:37:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> it should flatten the land 16:37:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> but prospecting has a random chance that it will fail completely, before trying to build an industry 16:38:42 <fjb> Oh, the I hit that chance. 16:49:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12131 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r3374): with mammoth trains disabled, maximum train length was limited to 9 16:55:42 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:41 <fjb> Balancing the ECS industies is not easy. 17:01:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:15:33 <Sacro> SmatZ: surely that's the point of having mammoth trains disabled? 17:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> Sacro: no, the limit is 10 17:17:32 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: ah 17:20:00 * Yorick had to puzzle to match the names 17:20:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-87-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:23 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.78] has joined #openttd 17:24:59 <ln-> buenas tardes 17:25:17 <UnderBuilder> hola 17:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: it's called tardis ;) 17:36:33 *** frosch123 [~mtce@newton.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:06 *** Axanentia [~SlayerRag@78-105-140-209.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:50:33 *** snorre [~snorre@c60FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 17:52:18 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:30 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12132 /trunk/src/ (roadveh_cmd.cpp ship_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Cleanup: convert pathfinder selection from if/else to switch/case at many places 18:00:30 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 18:00:54 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-161-204.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:03:38 *** nfc [~nfc@88.195.110.105] has joined #openttd 18:04:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host70-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:06:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D54A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:43 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:06:56 <Wolf01> hello boys 18:07:26 <hylje> hi dear 18:07:53 <ln-> hello, admiral 18:09:04 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B367.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:11:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12133 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix: Vehicle sorting by max speed did not work properly for trains. Instead of trying to work it out again, just use the cached values... 18:14:55 *** Yorick is now known as Yorick|AFK 18:16:41 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:23:56 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip208.cab23.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 18:24:09 <LordAzamath> hello 18:30:19 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 18:35:16 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 18:35:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:35:41 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 18:35:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:35:50 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 18:43:52 *** Yorick|AFK is now known as Yorick 18:43:55 *** Yorick is now known as Yorick_ 18:43:56 *** Yorick_ is now known as Yorick 18:46:33 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 18:55:06 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.78] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]] 18:56:10 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 18:56:41 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 19:00:52 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:01:13 *** Axanentia is now known as Axamentia 19:02:07 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-191-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:18 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:29 * LordAzamath want's pikkabird to answer a PM 19:04:49 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 19:07:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> ma'n thi's p'oor a'p'os'tr'o'p'y' 19:07:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> +h 19:07:47 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-147-101.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:16 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:08:46 <LordAzamath> Eddi|zuHause2: You're alright? You sound kinda.. apostrophy.. 19:09:12 <Axamentia> is that poor as socially deprived, or poor as in bad though? or maybe even both, an apostrophy for the socially deprived perhaps?? lol 19:10:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sentence does not make any sense 19:11:47 *** UFO64 [~UFO64@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 19:12:08 <Axamentia> it does 19:12:10 <Sacro> LordAzamath: want is? 19:12:29 <LordAzamath> ofcourse 19:12:42 <LordAzamath> actually has 19:12:43 <Belugas> naa.a.. ofrace 19:13:09 <LordAzamath> wantswantswants* 19:13:19 <LordAzamath> now happy? 19:13:43 <Axamentia> hey belugas i saw one of your laptop guitars in manchester today for £60!! I got to play with :) 19:14:05 <Sacro> LordAzamath: 19:14:06 <Sacro> no 19:14:16 <Axamentia> Twas slightly wierd with no neck to slide teh fretboard though 19:14:19 * LordAzamath wonders why 19:16:47 <Belugas> i can imagine, Axamentia :) 19:17:00 <Belugas> you've got a lead on me, never touched it before 19:18:14 <Axamentia> I was trying to work some chords out, but you muscle memory is programmed to come from behind the fretboard, wheras this is over the top, so it was disorientating 19:18:30 <Axamentia> Suppose its more like tapping 19:19:17 <Belugas> maybe 19:19:32 <Belugas> but somhow, i think it;s more realted to slide guitare 19:19:41 <Belugas> i doubt chords are to be used 19:20:40 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:20:43 <Axamentia> aye true 19:20:55 <Belugas> work@work 19:20:56 <Belugas> see you 19:21:14 <Axamentia> the guy demostrating though was managing, some open e's, and g's on it though lol 19:21:16 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip208.cab23.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 19:24:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12134 /trunk/src/ (14 files in 3 dirs): 19:24:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change: count the number of ticks a vehicle was running this day to calculate running cost 19:24:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#1739]: vehicle profit is now counted with 8bit fract, so it is now shown properly in the vehicle details window 19:27:06 <Belugas> hoo... you had a demo :) 19:27:12 <Belugas> fun fun 19:27:31 <Belugas> seems i have to revise my perception of the instrument 19:27:48 <Belugas> FTP'ing a deployment is alwasy shitty 19:28:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.137.254] has joined #openttd 19:33:06 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 19:37:44 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 19:43:53 *** White_Rabbit [whiterabbi@cpc1-oxfd8-0-0-cust590.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:50:04 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 19:50:20 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> soo... vehicles have now 0 running costs while loading etc.? 19:57:11 <peter1138> Not as far as I know... 19:57:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> then what does this change do? 19:57:55 <Yorick> @openttd commit 12134 19:57:56 <DorpsGek> Yorick: Commit by smatz :: r12134 /trunk/src (14 files in 3 dirs) (2008-02-13 19:24:40 UTC) 19:57:58 <DorpsGek> Yorick: -Change: count the number of ticks a vehicle was running this day to calculate running cost 19:57:59 <DorpsGek> Yorick: -Fix [FS#1739]: vehicle profit is now counted with 8bit fract, so it is now shown properly in the vehicle details window 19:58:15 <Yorick> loading == running, I think 19:58:31 <peter1138> Yeah, running means "not manually stopped" 19:58:37 *** UFO64 [~UFO64@murrayjm8.umeres.maine.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:58:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> ah, the message wasn't exactly clear about that 19:59:04 <Yorick> but I think that I actually think that I might be thinking that I'm thinking too much 19:59:47 <Belugas> i think so too 20:00:00 <Yorick> you're wise to thing so 20:00:04 <Yorick> think* 20:03:11 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: the running cost was calculated as if the vehicle was running all 74 ticks if it was running at new day start 20:03:43 <SmatZ> so you could (theoretically) have 0 running cost if you stopped the vehicle before day end, and started it the next tick... 20:04:52 <Yorick> that requires timing... 20:04:56 <hylje> heh 20:05:23 <hylje> apparently this PBS a bit.. acts up if a vehicle breaks down 20:05:41 <hylje> i just got a vehicle broken down just after reserving a path 20:05:47 <hylje> then another train came and crashed it 20:05:54 <Yorick> I suppose it wasn't tested with breakdowns 20:06:07 <hylje> using its very location as its path, no less 20:07:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> why would breaking down unreserve the path? 20:07:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> stopping doesn't... 20:09:09 <hylje> i dunno, but it just did 20:09:44 <peter1138> There are a few ... issues :) 20:10:16 <hylje> apparently one of the crashed trains left a permanent reservation 20:10:20 <Yorick> I think its the speed the trains slows down with, it calls some kind of function that is used when going to station too, and that is the function the pbs uses to unreserve the path(just a theory) 20:12:12 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 20:19:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D54A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:37 *** Yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 20:22:24 <White_Rabbit> why does OTTD freeze for a few seconds every time I close the 'NewGRF settings' window? 20:22:55 <SmatZ> White_Rabbit: do you remove or add a newgrf? 20:23:06 <White_Rabbit> I close it without making a change 20:25:36 <glx> it applies them 20:25:50 <glx> in case there are action 0F 20:26:21 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54971F6D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:31:53 <White_Rabbit> I was asking because there are a lot of multiplayer games that uses newGRFs, and OTTD freezes for about 3 seconds every time I close the window. isn't it unnecessary to apply them when you look at other people's newGRF settings? 20:32:40 <peter1138> It is there, yes. 20:35:09 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:45:18 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 20:48:30 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: poof] 20:49:50 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@062249182162.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 20:50:00 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:51:03 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7A17F.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:53:38 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B367.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:52 <Tekky> hylje: I don't think the crash took place due to the breakdown, at least I have never encountered such a bug. I rather think the crash took place for a different reason, related to a train getting lost. The most frequent cause of a train getting lost is if it tries to service at a depot but fails, because it has already reserved too much track in another direction. 20:54:13 <hylje> that could be it 20:55:43 <Tekky> hylje: I suggest you keep the last savegame where this happens and then see whether it still happens in the upcoming new version, which - according to michi_cc - will be released in the next few days. 20:56:02 *** White_Rabbit [whiterabbi@cpc1-oxfd8-0-0-cust590.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 21:00:01 <Tekky> I am periodically checking the forum thread whether a new version of YAPP (=PBS) has been released, because I cannot wait for the new version :) 21:00:37 <hylje> its certainly neat at the moment 21:00:51 <hylje> just trying it out and getting a feel of its stuff 21:00:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54BC7.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> Tekky: subscribe to the thread, then you will get any updates as email ;) 21:01:41 <Tekky> ah, thanks for the advice :) 21:04:22 <Tekky> hylje: I suggest you disable train servicing until the next version, that should get rid of most train crashes in YAPP. 21:04:30 <hylje> i did :) 21:04:39 <hylje> fortunately i had enough monies to replace all those trains 21:09:12 <Tekky> is anyone here familiar with SimCity 4 Rush Hour/Deluxe (the expansion, not SimCity 4 vanilla)? I really like the tool in that game that allows you to see where all your residents go to work and which route they take. I think it would be great if this could be implemented into OpenTTD somehow. This system in SimCity 4 Rush Hour seems better to me than the current passenger destinations patch. 21:09:21 <hylje> yes 21:09:36 <hylje> it'd involve a more fine-grained cargo model 21:09:50 <hylje> (applied to passengers and mail) 21:12:07 * peter1138 doesn't play any games other than OpenTTD... 21:14:06 <Tekky> I think that for every tile with a house on it, OpenTTD should store where the person living in the house goes to work. That way, passenger routes would be from tile to tile instead of from station to station. Currently, in the "new passenger destinations" patch, passenger routes are from station to station, aren't they? 21:14:24 <peter1138> I believe so. 21:16:55 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcfcc.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 21:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> tile to tile makes much more sense 21:17:06 <planetmaker> hi 21:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> then people can also switch companies if the stations are close 21:20:08 <hylje> tile to tile would involve a bit higher resolution towns 21:20:55 <hylje> a single tile represents such a large set of people that it should have several folks going to work somewhere 21:21:07 <hylje> and then we come to having places to work 21:21:18 <hylje> which can easily made another beast 21:22:09 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:54 <Tekky> Eddi: Yes, that would be great. Companies would fight for passengers and would try to offer better (e.g. faster) routes than the competition. 21:23:23 <Wolf01> 'night 21:23:26 <hylje> night 21:23:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host70-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:23:28 <Tekky> Eddi: that would also make multiplayer games more interesting :) 21:23:43 <Sacro> yes 21:23:43 <Tekky> hi planetmaker 21:24:19 <hylje> Tekky: station ratings kinda do that already 21:24:43 <hylje> Tekky: but the poor folk don't get a choice to where to go, be it intra-city or intercity 21:24:44 <Tekky> and if the trains are timetabled, the passengers will be able to plan their routes more easily. 21:27:42 <Tekky> hylje: yes, since passengers don't care where they go, players have no incentive to offer fast intercity passenger routes. 21:33:45 <fjb> The latest passenger destinations patch already makes a huge difference to the plain game. You have to offer a good intra-city service or you don't get enough passengers for the inter-city lines. Not just building two airports and getting rich anymore. 21:34:31 <Tekky> fjb: Ah, I didn't know that.... I guess I should look a bit further into that patch. 21:35:34 <Tekky> hylje: Yes, you are right that OpenTTD would have to be scaled to offer more tiles per city. 21:36:00 <Tekky> hylje: But I think this is desirable, if you want to also build a good inter-city service. 21:36:13 <fjb> Try it out, it really changes the game. When you include some industry sets like PBI or ECs and the game starts to get challanging. 21:38:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:39:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 21:49:58 <murray> http://www.aspecialone.com/ 21:52:30 <fjb> Haha, verry funny... 21:56:25 <Sacro> nice theft of the THX logo 21:56:32 <Sacro> that'll get a DMCA takedown 21:57:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:04:42 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:04:43 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:06:56 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 22:12:12 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 22:12:13 <dragonhorseboy> hey 22:40:43 *** Netsplit unununium.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: andyf, eQualizer, tokar, Rexxars, Diabolic-Angel, Frostregen, stillunknown, murray, Andel, DaleStan, (+83 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:43:18 <SpComb> hai 22:44:39 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-165-76.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:44:39 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C9B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:44:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 22:44:43 *** Netsplit over, joins: Brianetta, dragonhorseboy, XeryusTC, @peter1138, GoneWacko, Axamentia, DaleStan, lobster, Leviath, Dark_Link^ (+80 more) 22:46:55 *** Netsplit cation.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: eQualizer, andyf, Frostregen, ThePizzaKing, murray, Andel, DaleStan, Forked, usv, nappe1afk, (+25 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:46:57 <Roujin> okay after one mistry, realizing it should be -20 -9 instead of 20 9, now it works fairly well. sweet :) 22:47:09 <Roujin> jesus what is happening oO 22:47:18 *** Netsplit over, joins: dragonhorseboy, DaleStan, +michi_cc, izhirahider, Frostregen, @DorpsGek, mikegrb, a1270, darx, Christoph (+5 more) 22:47:23 *** Netsplit over, joins: Hendikins 22:47:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 22:47:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v peter1138] by ChanServ 22:47:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 22:47:37 <dragonhorseboy> 0_o 22:47:40 <Axamentia> Woah 22:47:46 <Axamentia> major join'age' 22:47:57 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:47:59 <orudge> netsplit 22:48:02 <Axamentia> aye 22:48:10 <Axamentia> not seen one of those in a while 22:48:22 *** Netsplit over, joins: Andel, @Belugas, HMage, mad_, nappe1afk, Noldo, Forked, ln-, valhallasw, Rubidium (+6 more) 22:48:22 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:45 *** Netsplit over, joins: Tefad 22:48:58 *** Netsplit over, joins: Zr40, murray 22:53:08 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:53:47 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 22:56:59 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@p54971F6D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:57:08 <fjb> YAPP at work is really fun to watch, even under heavy load: http://www.myimg.de/?img=PlanlosGmbH17Apr20451acbf.png 22:59:15 <dragonhorseboy> "heavy load"? 23:00:12 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:17 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netrep.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:00:40 <fjb> Yes, why not? 23:00:59 <peter1138> I think the question is what do you mean by heavy load. 23:01:22 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54971F6D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:23 *** [1]Roujin is now known as Roujin 23:01:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> doesn't look very heavy to me... 23:02:11 <dragonhorseboy> eddi...agree 23:02:49 <fjb> Ah, I didn't understand that question. 23:02:49 <dragonhorseboy> looks like light or maybe light-medium to me 23:02:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> some of my normal signalled stations took more than that 23:03:00 <peter1138> Stupid screenshot... it won't scroll :( 23:03:36 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause2: Three train in the same signal block, tho leavin in the same direction, one entering from that direction? 23:03:56 <fjb> peter1138: Yeah, I know that problem... 23:03:58 <Maedhros> good night 23:04:08 <Tekky> good night, Maedhros 23:04:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> it obviously wasn't the same signal block back then ;) 23:04:13 <Wezz6400> what the heck, yet another package of patches o.O 23:04:15 <fjb> Good night Maedhros 23:04:21 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-136-161-204.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> but yes, similar situations were possible 23:05:18 <fjb> That station is small, but it has three lines crosiing there, two of them with many trains and you get no jam. 23:05:43 <peter1138> Well, it's not that impressive really because that is the point of it, to be honest ;) 23:06:28 <peter1138> Looks nice though. 23:07:14 <fjb> It is easy to have many trains going into and out of a big station with many platforms, ottdcoop shows that. But it is far more difficult to get that many trains through a small station with only four platforms. 23:08:42 <Roujin> little coding question 23:08:43 <Roujin> ROAD_NONE = 0U, ///< No road-part is build 23:08:59 <Roujin> what does the U in 0U mean? 23:09:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> unsigned 23:09:24 <Roujin> thanks 23:10:12 <peter1138> g'night 23:10:12 <Roujin> i wonder though why it is used there oO 23:10:15 <Roujin> night peter 23:10:24 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7A17F.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 23:10:31 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 23:11:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D54A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:45 *** Forked_ [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 23:13:10 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:10 *** Forked_ is now known as Forked 23:15:26 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fcfcc.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:12 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3120P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:22:37 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:24:16 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 23:33:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:39:50 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:45:33 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3120P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:26 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@M3120P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:48:01 <Gonozal_VIII> can't understand that.. main_gui.cpp and rail_gui.cpp always grow newlines at the end 23:49:41 <Roujin> i had that sometimes as well 23:49:55 <Roujin> well it doesn't break anything does it? 23:50:13 <Gonozal_VIII> newline doesn't break anything... but it's annoying 23:50:31 <Gonozal_VIII> i remove them manually from the patch files all the time and they keep reappearing 23:50:52 <Roujin> hmmm... maybe it's got to do with the amount of lines a patch alters? 23:51:32 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm? 23:51:42 <Roujin> somewhere at the beginning of each file block, it says how many lines there should be, and even if you remove the +[empty line], it will fill the file up with empty lines so that number fits? 23:51:51 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: removing them is not enough, you may need to modify the chunk header 23:52:13 <Gonozal_VIII> removed the header too glx 23:52:25 <glx> don't remove the header 23:52:34 <glx> it is needed to patch 23:52:43 <Gonozal_VIII> there was nothing else 23:53:10 <Roujin> then do the following: 23:53:23 <Roujin> apply it to vanilla source 23:53:35 <glx> remove the line and rediff 23:53:37 <Roujin> revert the file that had the newline added at the end 23:53:44 <Roujin> create a new patch 23:54:24 <Roujin> should work imho... 23:54:58 <glx> and slap the patch author for not checking his diff 23:56:26 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@M3120P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:56:26 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1446 23:56:26 *** Gonozal is now known as Gonozal_VIII 23:56:34 <Gonozal_VIII> http://pastebin.com/d2fe643ff 23:56:38 <Gonozal_VIII> keeps adding newlines at the end of those files 23:57:17 <glx> it shouldn't 23:57:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that^^