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00:04:18 <SpComb> SmatZ: split junctions directly after bridges fail 00:04:36 <SpComb> the train just goes directly ahead, even though the right path is to turn 00:05:35 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:07:14 <SmatZ> SpComb: confirmed 00:07:48 <SpComb> workaround is to move the function one tile forwards, so there's a piece of straight track after the bridge 00:17:11 <SmatZ> http://paste.openttd.org/904 this seems to fix it 00:19:19 <SmatZ> but don't ask me why 00:19:22 * SmatZ too tired :-x 00:22:06 <SmatZ> ahhh 00:22:07 <SmatZ> I see 00:22:27 <SmatZ> SpComb: did you test it in 0.5.3 ? 00:25:04 <SmatZ> hmm works in 0.5.3 00:26:13 <glx> the code is the same except the if (!HasBit(tpf->railtypes, GetRailType(tile))) { check 00:26:47 <SmatZ> no 00:27:00 <SmatZ> the if (GetTunnelBridgeDirection(tile) != ReverseDiagDir(direction)) has different scope 00:27:13 <SmatZ> was hard to see :) 00:27:43 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:28:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-198-164.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:29:17 <glx> hmm? 00:30:23 <SmatZ> glx: scope of the check: http://paste.openttd.org/905 00:30:46 <glx> oh right 00:31:21 <SmatZ> hard to see :-/ 00:32:28 <glx> indeed hard to see 00:32:49 * SmatZ is searching revision that broke it 00:34:37 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 00:34:50 *** Poopsmith [~poop@202.180.121.90] has joined #openttd 00:35:40 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-058-231.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:47:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r12348 /trunk/src/pathfind.cpp: -Fix (r7573): NTP skipped junction just after bridge end 00:55:00 <SmatZ> SpComb: fixed :) 00:55:22 <SmatZ> SpComb: please, do not try to find NTP bugs, there are many: http://88.146.45.107/ttd/pftest4-train.sav 01:00:23 <Eddi|zuHause> we should really remove all but one pathfinder 01:01:16 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:02:06 <Gonozal_VIII> only original pathfinder :-) 01:02:16 <Sacro> http://www.hutton-web-design.co.uk/tanker.html 01:02:24 <Eddi|zuHause> <@Bjarni> Sacro: those stats.... now that's interesting... USSR were much stronger yet USSR lost 25% of their men while Finland lost 10% <- russia had similar figures in pretty much all wars in the first half of the 20th century 01:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause> startig with the russia-japan war, ending with wwii 01:03:11 <Gonozal_VIII> happens, if you send out half of the soldiers without a gun 01:03:39 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: low-memory architectures can't use YAPF 01:03:51 <SmatZ> maybe leaving only NPF + YAPF... 01:04:02 <SmatZ> with a special PF for ships... 01:04:04 <SmatZ> and AI 01:04:08 <SmatZ> or remove AI at all 01:04:14 <SmatZ> (AI uses OPF, too) 01:04:15 * Sacro writes Sacro'sPF 01:04:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F801.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06:21 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FE55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:07:15 <Eddi|zuHause> ln-: tonight is the night... it will happen again, has to happen again, and again, and again 01:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> </Dexter> 01:14:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 01:16:20 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-254.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:17:14 <SpComb> SmatZ: heh, cool... NTP is on by accident in this game, and it's a bit too late to turn it off 01:18:48 <SmatZ> SpComb: "patch pathfinder_for_trains 3" should help 01:19:09 <SmatZ> "patch pathfinder_for_trains 2" 01:36:41 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76FF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:36:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40:04 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77AA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:41:42 *** Eddi|zuHause4 [~johekr@p54B77933.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:42:05 *** Eddi|zuHause4 [~johekr@p54B77933.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77933.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:46:45 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76FF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:10 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77AA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:56:37 <SpComb> hmm, giant screenshots tend to fail because the client gets kicked off by the server 01:56:50 <SmatZ> it takes too long 01:56:57 <SpComb> indeed 01:57:09 <glx> the client is kicked because giant screenshot 01:57:19 <SpComb> it needs to not kick them off or something 01:57:35 <glx> no reply for more than 4 game days 01:57:46 <glx> you can't do anything about that 01:57:59 <SmatZ> you can modify server sources... 01:58:20 <SpComb> or save, load in singleplayer, screenshot 01:59:00 <glx> maybe we should disable giant screenshot when networking 01:59:19 <SmatZ> no... 01:59:43 <SmatZ> some computers can handle 256x256 giant screenshot while networking 02:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause> you should maybe make a memory-savegame, and then take the screenshot from there in a separate thread 02:07:35 <Eddi|zuHause> or add a giant "are you sure?!?" confirmation screen 02:07:44 <SmatZ> current code can't handle that 02:07:52 <SmatZ> you would have to start separate process 02:14:55 <SpComb> trunk seems to have duplicate code as viewport.h and viewport_type.h 02:15:20 <SpComb> or at least partially duplicate, and viewport.h contains a reference to zoom.hpp 02:18:13 <SmatZ> SpComb: there is no viewport.h in trunk 02:19:01 <SpComb> hmm... r12336? 02:19:48 <SmatZ> you have files in your src directory that are not part of OTTD 02:20:00 <glx> leftovers 02:20:26 * SpComb thinks it's probably too late in the day to talk about bugs 02:20:34 <SmatZ> there was a large cleanup - renaming and dividing files into smaller files 02:20:44 <SmatZ> bugs? bugs? there are no bugs! 02:20:44 <SmatZ> :) 02:21:01 <glx> only features :) 02:21:04 <Eddi|zuHause> svn is weird... you can get no information when a file was deleted 02:21:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:23:04 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-31-153.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:26:52 <SpComb> half past four in the morning is not the best time to try and develop anything 02:27:19 * SmatZ is coding... 02:27:36 <SmatZ> but sure it is not "the best" time to develop 02:30:21 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 02:31:09 <Eddi|zuHause> better than 8am ;) 02:31:20 <SmatZ> :)))) 02:32:02 <Belugas> but not as good as 9:31 pm ;) 02:32:15 <SmatZ> :) 02:32:53 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:32:54 <SpComb> http://dev.myottd.net/#goto_7249_6272_1 + http://dev.myottd.net/#goto_7476_2805_1 <-- oogle my network 02:33:00 <Belugas> sorry for been late on duty, i was fooling around with my guitars :) 02:33:15 <SmatZ> oogle? 02:33:21 <SpComb> look at 02:33:22 <Sacro> ogle 02:33:27 <Sacro> one o 02:36:18 <Tefad> SpComb: that's kind of cool 02:36:22 <SpComb> I also finally realized that it's possible to build bridges over diagonal tracks in OpenTTD 02:36:27 <SpComb> it makes the lack of PBS hurt a bit less 02:36:38 <Tefad> haha 02:36:55 <SpComb> Tefad: indeed it is, dusted it off and updated it to a fairly recent nightly just now 02:37:02 <Gonozal_VIII> why don't you just play with pbs? 02:38:18 <Eddi|zuHause> <SpComb> I also finally realized that it's possible to build bridges over diagonal tracks in OpenTTD <- welcome to one year ago :) 02:38:58 <SpComb> haven't played OpenTTD as much as I've spent time on the code 02:39:37 <SpComb> http://dev.myottd.net/#goto_9881_6164_1 <-- it's nice how you can make nifty junctions like that 02:40:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12349 /trunk/src/ottdres.rc.in: 02:40:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change[FS#1826]: Remove the need to include the afxres.h header when all that was needed was just the definition if IDC_STATIC. 02:40:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Only valid for MSVC compilers. 02:41:24 <Belugas> [21:38] <SpComb> haven't played OpenTTD as much as I've spent time on the code <--- sounds like deja-vu :D 02:41:28 <Belugas> welcome to my world ;) 02:42:29 <Gonozal_VIII> you have your own world :O 02:42:43 <Eddi|zuHause> wait, you don't? 02:42:54 <Belugas> everyone lives in his own bubble 02:43:12 <Gonozal_VIII> i? sure but why do other people inside my world have their own 02:43:29 <Gonozal_VIII> you're all just my imagination after al 02:43:40 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a fair point 02:44:25 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:44:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 02:45:04 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-188-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:45:36 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-188-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:36 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:44 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 02:45:50 <Belugas> o_O 02:46:04 <Belugas> Gonozal_VIII is hign on something 02:46:44 <Forked> meep meep 02:46:46 <Forked> 3:46 am! 02:47:02 <Gonozal_VIII> 3:47 indeed 02:47:12 <Gonozal_VIII> so? 02:47:29 <SpComb> 04:47:28 02:47:40 <SpComb> make that :29 there, I'm a bit slow right now 02:48:00 <Gonozal_VIII> [03:47:29] <SpComb> 04:47:28 02:48:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Beim nÀchsten Ton ist es drei Uhr, siebenundvierzig Minuten und 40 Sekunden 02:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> *pieeep* 02:48:32 <Gonozal_VIII> nope 02:48:44 <Gonozal_VIII> that was 48:12 :P 02:48:47 <Eddi|zuHause> well, no, i am too slow for your world ;) 02:49:16 <Poopsmith> where are you folks at? 02:49:25 <Gonozal_VIII> at, right 02:49:32 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 02:50:14 <Poopsmith> <-- nz :) so its 3:50 PM here 02:50:51 <Gonozal_VIII> and not freezing cold outside... 02:51:33 <Poopsmith> 26 C at the moment... just nice :D 02:51:40 <Gonozal_VIII> -2 here 02:51:40 <Belugas> grrrrrr... 02:52:43 <Belugas> -8, with 5-10 cm of snow expected during the night 02:52:52 <Poopsmith> dang 02:52:54 <Belugas> oh... 02:52:55 <Belugas> sorry 02:52:56 <Belugas> no 02:53:10 <Poopsmith> i've never been in -8 before, it never gets that cold here 02:53:11 <Belugas> from tonight to friday night 02:53:35 <Gonozal_VIII> worst was around -22 02:53:38 <Poopsmith> doesn't snow in my city either 02:53:59 <Belugas> and 15-20cm scheduled for saturday 02:54:01 <Belugas> boooooo! 02:54:13 <Belugas> i want to change country!!! 02:54:34 * Belugas wants to go to Poopsmith's place, looks like a nice one 02:54:50 <Gonozal_VIII> it usually doesn't snow here when it's -8° 02:55:20 <Gonozal_VIII> only around the freezing point.. 02:55:51 <Poopsmith> http://camera.hcc.govt.nz/cgi-bin/hugesize.jpg?camera=1 02:56:34 *** glx|away is now known as glx 02:57:39 <Belugas> nice 02:57:43 <Belugas> wb glx :) 02:57:58 <glx> :) 02:58:04 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.hallstatt.net/webcam/action/view/ 02:58:11 <Gonozal_VIII> not much to see... 02:58:27 * Sacro has SecuritySaver 02:58:28 <Sacro> tis cool 02:58:40 <Poopsmith> man, openttd dedicated server is awesome, very low resource usage :) 02:59:12 <Gonozal_VIII> less then regular game minimised? 02:59:53 <Belugas> http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/DSC02398.JPG <--- see what I have to endure ? 03:00:21 <Poopsmith> Gonozal_VIII: don't know, i'm comparing it to other processes on my server rather than to the normal openttd game 03:00:27 <glx> Belugas: deja-vu 03:00:31 <Poopsmith> server has no gui so i wouldnt be running it minimised anyway ;) 03:00:42 <Belugas> yup 03:00:44 <Belugas> right 03:00:49 * Belugas is getting old 03:00:54 <Gonozal_VIII> it's not that much snow 03:01:22 <Poopsmith> way more than i've ever seen on a road :P 03:02:19 <Gonozal_VIII> we didn't have much snow so far this winter :-) 03:02:32 <Poopsmith> snow can be fun 03:02:41 <Gonozal_VIII> nah.. 03:02:48 <Poopsmith> but it should be limited to mountains, not all over your roads and houses 03:02:51 <Belugas> noooo 03:02:53 <Belugas> not at alll 03:03:11 <Belugas> ho my... "IRC is always funny.. Especially with Belugas, Peter and Bjarni!..." 03:03:16 <Gonozal_VIII> try to tell the snow that poopsmith^^ 03:03:18 <Belugas> we are clowns now :S 03:04:03 <Gonozal_VIII> what do you mean "now" ? 03:04:21 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 03:04:45 <Belugas> hoooo... lucky for you i'm Belugas and not Bjarni :P 03:04:59 <Belugas> at least, i can take a good joke :D 03:05:12 <glx> @kick Gonozal_VIII funny isn't it? 03:05:12 *** Gonozal_VIII was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [funny isn't it?] 03:05:12 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gonozal_VI@90.146.202.98] has joined #openttd 03:05:22 <Gonozal_VIII> ouch! 03:06:18 <Belugas> lol 03:06:18 <SmatZ> [04:00:51] * Belugas is getting old <--- is getting very old and urgently needs replacing :-P 03:06:30 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^^ 03:06:36 <Belugas> true... so true.... 03:06:45 <Belugas> who wants to take my place? 03:06:49 <SmatZ> no,no,joke,joke! :( 03:07:08 <Gonozal_VIII> can't replace belugas, money limit 03:07:08 * SmatZ <-- 03:07:12 <SmatZ> :-D 03:07:23 <Poopsmith> lol @ Gonozal_VIII 03:10:15 <Belugas> hehehe 03:10:28 <Belugas> i have no intention to leave you. 03:10:29 <Belugas> for now 03:10:33 <Belugas> or maybe 03:10:38 <Belugas> to go to bed 03:10:46 <Belugas> mmh 03:10:57 <Poopsmith> ottd > bed 03:11:14 <Gonozal_VIII> always going to bed earlier than the europeans^^ 03:11:29 <glx> hehe 03:11:31 <Gonozal_VIII> you're really getting old :P 03:13:59 <Belugas> lol 03:14:24 <Belugas> well... not a student anymore :) 03:14:29 * Poopsmith feels really old sometimes, but is probably one of the younger people here 03:14:34 <Belugas> i've got a boss to face tomorrow morning 03:15:20 <Gonozal_VIII> how old are you poopsmith? 03:15:32 <Poopsmith> 20 03:16:04 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, i guess you really are one of the youngest here 03:16:23 <SmatZ> not 'far youngest' though 03:18:57 * Poopsmith is a programming student, so give me a couple of years and i might be working on ottd :) 03:19:05 <Poopsmith> lol 03:19:26 <Sacro> god Ubuntu sucks 03:21:15 <Poopsmith> whys that? 03:22:43 <Sacro> takes fecking ages to update 03:22:46 <Sacro> deb sucks majorly 03:23:43 <Poopsmith> what do u usually use? 03:24:47 <Sacro> Arch 03:24:55 <Sacro> uses .pkg.tar.gz 03:25:01 <Poopsmith> ahh 03:25:06 * Belugas thinks that Poopsmith should not wait a couple of years, but should start now. By lloking in the code... not asking what and where and how and by who... 03:25:11 <Poopsmith> never used it aye 03:25:14 <Belugas> into ottd code... 03:26:45 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-169-229.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:26:55 <Poopsmith> hmmm 03:27:02 <Poopsmith> i should check it out sometime 03:27:07 <Poopsmith> i think i have svn installed on here 03:29:51 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30:13 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-168-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:30:51 <Belugas> i think my bed is calling me big time 03:30:56 <Belugas> night out there 03:30:58 <Sacro> i've got chronic farting :( 03:30:59 <Sacro> night Belugas 03:31:21 <Belugas> night farting Sacro :) 03:31:34 * Belugas is gone 03:31:53 <SmatZ> :-x 03:31:54 <SmatZ> nini 03:31:57 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:02 <Poopsmith> i love chronic farting 03:35:39 * glx goes to sleep too 03:35:49 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:36:57 <Poopsmith> awww, everyone's goin to sleep and its only 4:36pm for me 03:37:43 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm not planning on going to sleep soon 03:39:49 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.162.129] has joined #openttd 03:46:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.170.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:47:52 * Poopsmith sighs 03:48:06 <Poopsmith> where to start looking at this code?!? 03:48:18 <Gonozal_VIII> line 1 03:48:28 <Poopsmith> of which file? 03:48:31 <Poopsmith> ;) 03:48:50 <Gonozal_VIII> the one closest to your mouse pointer :-) 03:55:18 <Sacro> openttd.cpp 03:56:37 <Poopsmith> well now i feel like a wang 03:56:45 <Poopsmith> i didnt even see openttd.cpp sitting there 04:00:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7F6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:03:15 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:06:45 *** Sacro 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How i can activate AI players in multiplayer? 12:55:09 <GhostBear> I'm checking box in Configure Pathces but there is still no AIs 12:55:37 <Ammler> GhostBear: not possible iirc 12:56:02 <GhostBear> No, i did it time ago, but now it doesn't works somewhy \= 12:56:03 <Ammler> you don't need AI in MP mode 12:56:30 <Ammler> well, not possible since 0.4.8 12:56:36 <Ammler> no idea how it was before 12:56:41 <GhostBear> \= 12:56:56 <GhostBear> So why checkbox still exists then? 12:57:08 <Ammler> because you can play with ai in sp 12:58:16 <Ammler> !s/ai/as/ ( artificial stupidness) 12:59:23 <GhostBear> Check box with label "Enable AI in multiplayer" 13:03:41 <Ammler> :o 13:04:54 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/std.png < desired? 13:04:57 <Ammler> well, then I have to be sorry 13:19:40 *** GhostBear [~a@88.204.14.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:05 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 13:27:50 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:30:22 <Ammler> peter1138: :) I have no idea what you mean, the small window size or the station itself? 13:30:22 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:36 <Ammler> but that would be amazing: http://img1.myimg.de/stdpreviewe49ed.png 13:36:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4DAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:40:16 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it] 13:42:58 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-124-189-3-149.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:57:00 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@129.187.61.232] has joined #openttd 14:00:14 <peter1138> The station itself. 14:18:17 *** Yexo [Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:24:31 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5733cec6.boanxx22.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:24:31 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N905P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:24:31 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@129.187.61.232] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 14:26:30 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 14:31:01 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:15:12 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 15:20:21 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:23:09 *** Yorick [~yorick@82-171-194-232.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 15:25:14 *** snorre [~snorre@c51F045C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 15:25:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N905P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:21 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-078-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:08 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 15:29:38 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N905P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 15:34:36 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5E2AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:27 <ln-> countries yet? 15:36:22 <Belugas> where? when? why? what??? 15:36:42 <Gonozal_VIII> why are you here twice? 15:36:59 <Belugas> since when are you 7th? 15:37:04 <Belugas> who is number 1? 15:37:11 <Belugas> I'm not a number, 15:37:14 <Gonozal_VIII> 8, not 7 :P 15:37:15 <Belugas> i'm a free man! 15:37:46 <Gonozal_VIII> and i was talking to ln 15:38:27 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:42:53 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F21F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:43:19 <Belugas> hoo... ok... then, if you take it like that, the clown goes away 15:43:20 <Belugas> pffft 15:43:22 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has left #openttd [] 15:43:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:43:49 <Gonozal_VIII> :S 15:44:02 <Gonozal_VIII> strange 15:44:57 <hylje> you scurred him 15:47:44 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54B71.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 15:48:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> you curried him? 15:48:25 *** Yorick [~yorick@82-171-194-232.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 15:48:43 <Prof_Frink> Mmm, Belugas Tikka Massala 15:49:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> (A x B) -> C => A->(B->C) 15:51:36 <blathijs> -) 15:51:41 <blathijs> s/^/:// 15:54:16 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 15:54:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:54:41 * Belugas prefers Tandoori over tikka massala 15:54:58 <Gonozal_VIII> why did you leave belugas? :S 15:55:13 <Belugas> i felt a bit facetious :) 15:55:22 <Belugas> nothing against you ;) 15:56:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> nothing effective you mean ;) 15:56:08 <Gonozal_VIII> ah ic 15:56:12 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 15:56:57 <Gonozal_VIII> and i was worried that i broke you... 15:57:00 <Belugas> lol 15:57:02 <Belugas> hardly :) 15:57:10 <Belugas> ain't a bot :D 15:57:17 <Gonozal_VIII> you're still needed for programming, since your autorenew failed 15:57:42 <Belugas> yeah, Bjarni might have wrote it 15:57:59 <Belugas> written 15:58:48 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B6C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:59:52 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EFE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:52 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489C4E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 16:08:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> which reminds me of a question... where does the word "write" come from? the german word "schreiben" is derived from latin, french (écrire) and spanish (escribir) have similar words. 16:12:18 <Belugas> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/write 16:12:39 <Belugas> proto-germanic, it seems 16:14:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... "ritzen"... that is an explanation, yes 16:14:57 * HMage is puzzled 16:14:59 <Belugas> so you could imagine the tribes of old germany invading great britain and having language evolving on its own, apart from "main land" 16:15:28 <Belugas> while main land evolved in contact with "latin" tribes 16:15:32 <Belugas> or something 16:15:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... english was much more influenced from latin (due to occupation) than german (due to massive resistance) 16:16:34 <Belugas> depends how early you go 16:17:02 <Belugas> romans invaded great britain while people were already there 16:17:19 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-236-080.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:28 <Belugas> so, the "natives" still had their own base language 16:17:37 <Belugas> proto history, in fact 16:17:55 <frosch123> the native language is "welsh", isn't it ? 16:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> welsh is a celtic dialect, yes 16:19:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> Belugas: but the german tribes arrived after the roman occupation 16:20:43 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause2, are you saying there was no one on the island when romans came ? 16:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> Belugas: no, i am saying that this is no explanation for the spreading of the word 16:21:39 *** Sacro [~Ben@150.237.221.151] has joined #openttd 16:22:16 <Belugas> ok.... 16:22:24 <Sacro> yes thanks 16:22:25 <Sacro> you? 16:22:31 <Belugas> who was on the island before the romans? 16:22:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> celtic tribes, like i said 16:22:54 <Prof_Frink> Basically, English takes the best bits of any language we can find. 16:23:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> english has remarkably few celtic elements 16:23:30 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: indeed 16:23:55 <Belugas> and where do the celts were from? german roots, isn;tit? 16:24:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> not that i know of... 16:24:22 <frosch123> celts are french 16:24:34 <Belugas> :S 16:24:35 <frosch123> Gallia est divisa in partes tres... 16:24:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you compare welsh to german... there are hardly any similarities 16:25:17 * Belugas goes back to work, as it seems his european proto history is somewhat broken 16:26:06 <frosch123> though I guess the romans removed all celtic parts from the french 16:26:30 * Sacro chops off frosch123's celtic parts 16:26:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't know much about celtic history either. i assume they were spread across western europe long before the germanic tribes arrived in eastern europe 16:27:05 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 16:30:40 <Sacro> our professor just asked if anyone knows how to use a gimp 16:31:47 <Prof_Frink> "a" or "the"? 16:32:42 * HMage remembers the joke of "I helped my uncle Jack off the horse" 16:32:56 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: well... 16:33:06 <Sacro> HMage: yes... 16:34:27 *** Zuu [~leif@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:34:52 <HMage> russian being my first language, so little amount of punctuation in english seemed disorienting for some time to me 16:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> we got never taught that kind of jokes in the school ;) 16:35:31 <Sacro> i want to learn russian 16:35:38 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:42 * Sacro is going to the Ukraine in summer 16:36:08 <hylje> *the* ukraine 16:36:09 <HMage> I'm told it's very difficult for native english language speakers 16:36:25 <Sacro> hylje: ? 16:36:28 <Sacro> HMage: mmm 16:36:41 <Sacro> i used to be able to say "Do you understand Englsih" and "I understand russian" 16:36:49 <Sacro> but i forget which way round the words go 16:37:36 <HMage> russian has seven cases 16:37:57 <HMage> sometimes the exact meaning of the sentence relies on the case 16:38:19 <Sacro> yep 16:38:21 <Sacro> fun to learn 16:38:48 <HMage> order of the words isn't important most of the time 16:39:07 <Sacro> that's useful to know 16:39:14 <HMage> but cases do depend on the order of the words 16:39:34 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 16:40:09 <Sacro> yeah 16:40:41 <HMage> and interrogrative sentence most of the time differ from affirmative sentences usually by intonation 16:40:46 <Gonozal_VIII> cases are important, cases depend on the order of the words --> order of the words isn't important... something's wrong there 16:40:49 *** Zealotus [~Nemesis@217-211-211-179-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:41:08 <HMage> because you can say anything in almost any order of the words 16:42:09 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:42:09 <Sacro> yeah 16:42:12 <Sacro> well, i just want to get buy 16:42:18 <HMage> "I have a car" -> "У ÐŒÐµÐœÑ ÐµÑÑÑ Ð°Ð²ÑПЌПбОлÑ". But it's okay to say "авÑÐŸÐŒÐŸÐ±ÐžÐ»Ñ Ñ ÐŒÐµÐœÑ ÐµÑÑÑ" and "Ñ ÐŒÐµÐœÑ Ð°Ð²ÑÐŸÐŒÐŸÐ±ÐžÐ»Ñ ÐµÑÑÑ" 16:42:19 <Sacro> i don't just wanna be another english guy 16:42:25 <Sacro> oh and i wanna chat up the ladies too 16:42:44 <HMage> but be careful, "Ñ Ð°Ð²ÑÐŸÐŒÐŸÐ±ÐžÐ»Ñ ÐŒÐµÐœÑ ÐµÑÑÑ" means different thing :) 16:42:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> what he means is: you can reorder the words, but then you have to readjust the cases to express the same thing 16:43:12 <HMage> yes, thank you Eddi|zuHause2 16:43:26 <Sacro> HMage: ahh right 16:43:29 <HMage> sorry I couldn't explain that so simply 16:43:38 <Sacro> i need to find some friendly russian people to talk to 16:43:42 <Sacro> who'd help me learn the language 16:44:44 <HMage> try to find someone who's not usually busy. having free time dictates friendliness in ex-USSR space. (it's not a rule, though. more like an observation) 16:44:49 <Gonozal_VIII> you can mix longer german sentences around without changing the meaning too and you don't even have to change cases :-) 16:45:55 <glx> <HMage> russian has seven cases <-- I remember only 6 16:46:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can even merge several sentences into one, and then shuffle around even more ;) 16:46:34 <Gonozal_VIII> that's because the 7th is a kgb secret 16:46:50 <HMage> sorry, it's 6 16:46:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> what is the kgb called this week? 16:46:57 <HMage> FSB 16:47:02 <Sacro> front side bus? 16:47:03 <Gonozal_VIII> front side bus? 16:47:05 <Sacro> that's not scary 16:47:09 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: jinxed 16:47:25 <HMage> can be loosely translated as "Federal Security Berau" 16:47:33 <HMage> Beurau* 16:47:37 <HMage> can't spell that word 16:47:50 <glx> bureau 16:47:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> Bureau 16:47:57 <HMage> thanks :) 16:48:13 <Gonozal_VIII> that's because it's frenchish, that stuff is always hard to spell 16:48:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> take the german word BÃŒro and frenchify it ;) 16:48:26 <HMage> but actually the translation is "Federal Service of Security" 16:48:45 <HMage> or Federal Security Service, that's better 16:49:01 <Sacro> Ministry of Security? 16:49:24 <HMage> but russians don't think so much to properly translate into english, so I won't be surprised if it's called "Federal Service of Security" officially 16:50:33 <Gonozal_VIII> wiki: Federal Security Service 16:50:52 <HMage> well, at least they've got a hang on English now :) 16:51:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Sacro> Ministry of Security? <- that's frightingly close to "Ministerium fÃŒr Staatssicherheit" [StaSi] 16:51:22 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: oh dear... 16:51:42 <HMage> http://fsb.ru/ -- omg caps 16:51:54 <HMage> I have to go. 16:52:08 <HMage> (no, it's not FSB, dun worry :) 16:53:06 <Gonozal_VIII> omg they found out that you were talking about them 16:53:33 <HMage> but there's new law being in approval now that legalises tapping into internet connections by FSB 16:54:16 <HMage> if it'll be approved, every ISP will have to accomodate FSB request to provide all information and all traffic logs for 3 months at least 16:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> Sacro: actually, it means almos the same as "NSA" in the USA 16:54:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> +t 16:54:52 <HMage> anyway, gtg home, bbl 16:54:59 <Sacro> lol, alritght 16:55:21 <HMage> it takes two hours to get to home here in Moscow, it's so overcrowded x.x 16:55:32 <HMage> especially in peak hours 17:02:17 <Sacro> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lord+hereford%27s+knob&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=9.297596,21.005859&ie=UTF8&latlng=52029328,-3109917,6634948900986599272&ei=4nTRR8iYI6bq2QLElrC-Bg&cd=1&output=html 17:07:39 *** Zealotus [~Nemesis@217-211-211-179-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:12 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 17:11:12 *** Sacro [~Ben@150.237.221.151] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:11 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 17:15:16 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 17:38:54 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:17 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 17:40:27 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 17:40:29 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 17:40:46 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 17:54:01 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 18:03:50 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has joined #openttd 18:05:01 *** glx is now known as glx|away 18:11:43 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:13:26 *** nicfer [~nicfer@cm187107.red91-117.mundo-r.com] has left #openttd [] 18:13:57 *** dih [~dihedral@dslb-088-066-153-084.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:17 <dih> :-) 18:18:20 <Gonozal_VIII> it's a dih! run! 18:18:43 <dih> die weissheit leuft dir hinterher, aber du bist shneller 18:24:11 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:15 <fjb> Hello 18:31:19 <fjb> Hm, ECS glass works accept sand, coal and sodium, but no station around it accepts sodium. Same with power stations and oil. Is that a new bug? Or an unhappy combination of GRFs again? 18:31:47 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf sodium 18:32:01 <hylje> element 18:32:22 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that... but since when is that part of the ecs vectors 18:33:04 <fjb> Kali. 18:34:31 <Gonozal_VIII> kali? 18:34:36 <hylje> kali. 18:34:40 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl4-208-36.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:34:55 <Gonozal_VIII> what does that have to do with anything? 18:36:35 <fjb> ECS Glasfabriken brauchen Kohle, Sand und Kali. 18:37:43 <Gonozal_VIII> kalisalt is a mixture of salts... sodium is an element.. happens to be part of the most common salt but still... not the same 18:38:00 <fjb> Kalium = sodium 18:38:07 <Gonozal_VIII> O_o 18:38:57 <Gonozal_VIII> sodium = na, kalium = k 18:39:04 <fjb> Kalium is Latin, german etc., sodium is English. 18:39:19 <fjb> Are you sure? 18:39:33 <Gonozal_VIII> sodium is natrium 18:41:44 <Gonozal_VIII> potassium is kalium 18:41:50 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 18:42:18 <Gonozal_VIII> strange english names 18:42:23 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip52.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 18:42:42 <LordAzamath> hello 18:42:45 <fjb> Ok, you are right. 18:42:48 <LordAzamath> yes I am 18:42:50 <fjb> Hello LordAzamath 18:42:50 <LordAzamath> :P 18:42:57 <Gonozal_VIII> no you're not 18:43:00 <LordAzamath> :O 18:43:07 <Gonozal_VIII> and hi :P 18:43:14 <LordAzamath> helllllo Gonozal_VIII 18:43:31 <fjb> Ok, the the galls works are accepting potassium, but the stations around it don't. 18:43:36 <fjb> glass 18:43:41 <LordAzamath> ok.. one newbie question... what command was it to downgrade via svn 18:43:58 <LordAzamath> when I have co'd the latest trunk 18:44:03 <Gonozal_VIII> update :-) 18:44:10 <LordAzamath> can't be 18:44:13 <LordAzamath> I tried it 18:44:21 <LordAzamath> svn up 12030 18:44:43 <LordAzamath> it says skipped 12030 18:45:15 <hylje> update -r the-revision-you-liek 18:45:23 <LordAzamath> ok :) 18:45:41 <LordAzamath> thanks 18:45:48 <LordAzamath> worked :P 18:45:54 <hylje> yw 18:47:20 <HMage> svn make me tea -please 18:47:51 <fjb> svn checkout -r 1729 18:47:53 * HMage is back 18:48:04 * HMage is front 18:48:12 <Gonozal_VIII> you have to use make to make tea, baka 18:48:15 <fjb> svn checkout -r 12030 18:48:29 <HMage> PLEASE=true make tea 18:50:37 <LordAzamath> :( 18:50:52 <LordAzamath> patch command doesn't work :o 18:50:58 <hylje> sudo make tea 18:52:19 <fjb> sudo /etc/csh :-P 18:52:39 <fjb> sudo /bin/csh :-P 18:53:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host88-234-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:54:03 <Wolf01> hello 18:54:31 <HMage> sudo echo hi 18:55:15 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:56:21 <ln-> the Obsidian Order 18:57:33 <hylje> le hi 18:57:46 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@140-008-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 19:01:53 <LordAzamath> :( 19:04:54 * LordAzamath is stupid 19:04:59 <LordAzamath> agree? 19:05:18 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:24 <LordAzamath> nobody agrees with me :( 19:07:52 <Gonozal_VIII> of course not, who would agree with stupid people 19:08:07 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:08:32 * LordAzamath tried to patch with an empty diff 19:08:50 <Gonozal_VIII> yay... 19:09:20 <Gonozal_VIII> that way you can be sure that it will still work 1000 revisions later 19:13:52 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: have a nice weekend!] 19:15:46 <Patrick`> mmm, trains 19:16:08 *** bumblebee [~nnscript@ti0117a340-0253.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:09 <hylje> .. ooh, trains.. 19:19:43 <fjb> UKRS encourages you to use road vehicles. 19:22:42 <Belugas> United Kingdo Road Set 19:22:47 <Belugas> +m 19:27:27 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-214-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:31:43 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:39:17 <fjb> :-) 19:39:40 <fjb> United Kongdom Replacement Set :-P 19:40:00 <Gonozal_VIII> yay :D 19:40:13 <Gonozal_VIII> replace the uk with something more useful 19:40:17 <fjb> The question is what it is replaced by. 19:40:27 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe ocean 19:40:33 <Gonozal_VIII> or a big crater 19:40:41 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 19:41:08 <peter1138> Renewal 19:41:19 <fjb> Ok, maybe renewal. 19:41:28 * peter1138 removes all his patches from Gonozal_VIII's OpenTTD. 19:41:34 <fjb> But replacement is more fun. 19:41:37 <Gonozal_VIII> :O 19:47:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 19:48:18 * LordAzamath adds all peter1138's patches to Gonozal_VIII's OpenTTD 19:49:36 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:47 <peter1138> They donât exist. Theyâve been replaced with a big crater. 19:52:23 <ln-> what is that nun doing in Wer wird MillionÀr? 19:52:55 <Gonozal_VIII> god always demands money 19:54:06 <Gonozal_VIII> and d 19:54:20 <Gonozal_VIII> and why are you watching rtl? 19:55:13 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EFE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 19:55:25 <mrfrenzy> any chance you'll be releasing your patchpack with beta5 gonozal_viii 19:55:52 <Gonozal_VIII> well.. i have all patches except yapp up to date 19:56:02 <Gonozal_VIII> waiting for new yapp version 19:56:11 <mrfrenzy> okay 19:59:25 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf savegame version changed again 20:01:40 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@140-008-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:02:19 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 20:07:07 <fjb> YAPP isn't that hard to bring to current. 20:07:43 <Gonozal_VIII> but i want neeeeeeew 20:08:24 <Gonozal_VIII> and you didn't send me the updated version :P 20:08:45 <ln-> countries? 20:09:01 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:14:24 <fjb> Countries? New? New Austria? 20:14:36 <dih> schoen ist es auf der welt zu sein.... 20:15:01 <Gonozal_VIII> WTF 20:15:02 <fjb> Are you a bee or a hedge hog? 20:15:49 <Belugas> dih... 20:15:50 <LordAzamath> a bee, what about you fjb? 20:16:15 <fjb> Me I am. 20:16:40 <fjb> Ich denke, also bin ich. 20:18:45 <fjb> LordAzamath: http://www.magistrix.de/lyrics/Roy Black/Schoen-Ist-Es-Auf-Der-Welt-Zu-Sein-feat.-Anita-12226.html Roy Black and Anita Hegerland. 20:19:12 <LordAzamath> Fehler 404: Seite nicht gefunden 20:19:17 <LordAzamath> 404 error 20:19:41 <LordAzamath> hmm 20:19:51 <LordAzamath> only the first part came as a link :P 20:20:16 <fjb> Oh, I see. There is a blank in the URL. 20:20:21 <LordAzamath> a space 20:20:28 <LordAzamath> very bad :P 20:20:50 <LordAzamath> fjb, unfortunaltyl I don't understand a word f those lyrics :P 20:20:58 <fjb> Yes, not my page. 20:21:45 <fjb> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?lp=de_en&url=http%3A//www.magistrix.de/lyrics/Roy%2520Black/Schoen-Ist-Es-Auf-Der-Welt-Zu-Sein-feat.-Anita-12226.html 20:23:18 <fjb> It doesn't translate Stachelschwein. the english term is hedge hog. 20:24:02 <Gonozal_VIII> sure about that? 20:24:21 <Gonozal_VIII> igel and stachelschwein are the same in english? 20:26:14 <LordAzamath> gnight 20:26:21 <fjb> Hm, we should ask a native english speaker. I learned it that way, but my English is not the best. 20:26:23 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 20:26:41 <globester> hm, i thought i could build locks on canals :/ 20:26:43 <fjb> LordAzamath: good night. 20:26:44 <globester> uh 20:26:47 <globester> locks on rivers 20:26:49 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip52.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 20:27:25 <Gonozal_VIII> they are completely unrelated animals.. 20:27:42 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't think they have the same name in english 20:29:38 <dih> hello Belugas :-) 20:30:13 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:30:34 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: You may be right. 20:30:41 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EFE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:57 *** xerxes [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:35 <Gonozal_VIII> ha! i'll look up the latin name from the german wiki in the english wiki 20:32:01 <Gonozal_VIII> Old World porcupine 20:32:04 <fjb> :-) 20:32:17 <fjb> Strange name. 20:32:21 <Gonozal_VIII> yep 20:32:44 <fjb> Never heard it. 20:32:49 <Gonozal_VIII> me neither 20:37:18 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:18 *** xerxes is now known as shodan 20:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have 20:39:03 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:39:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> in an NCIS episode 20:39:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ziva had problems pronouncing it 20:40:37 <fjb> NCIS? 20:42:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> Naval Criminal Investigative Service 20:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> in germany broadcast under the name "Navy CIS" on Sat.1, Sunday 20:15 20:43:12 <fjb> Oh. 20:43:23 <fjb> I Guess I never saw that. 20:44:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> it had a backdoor pilot in the series "JAG", which is why it is often called "spinoff", but it has nothing really to do with it 20:44:38 <fjb> Not connected investigation system. :-) 20:45:13 <fjb> or better series 20:49:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> can you speak in complete sentences? 20:49:41 <Gonozal_VIII> waste of finger movement 20:49:55 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 20:50:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, you are. 20:50:17 <Gonozal_VIII> :O 20:51:48 <ln-> hmm, berlin 179⬠20:54:23 <hylje> how cheap is berlin 20:55:37 <fjb> The price per politician is usually higher. 20:56:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> berliners usually cost much less 20:57:53 *** ubuntuusers23432 [~ubuntuuse@72.141.143.208] has joined #openttd 20:58:18 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:58:18 <fjb> :-P 20:59:04 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.webnews.de/kommentare/134461/0/Essen-Berliner-gerne-Berliner.html 21:01:01 <ubuntuusers23432> i think compiz disabled my direct rendering how can i check if direct rendering is on ? i am on nvdia 8500 gt 21:01:14 <Diabolic-Angel> glxinfo | grep direct 21:01:57 * SmatZ just found out his direct rendering is not working :) 21:02:01 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:02:10 <fjb> Glx is not online. 21:05:10 <ubuntuusers23432> Diabolic-Angel it syas direct rendering yes 21:05:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> direct rendering: Yes 21:05:19 <ubuntuusers23432> but i get shaky images 21:05:42 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:07:06 *** ubuntuusers23432 [~ubuntuuse@72.141.143.208] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:11 <fjb> Don't jump while watching the images. 21:08:22 <Diabolic-Angel> hrhr 21:09:38 <Gonozal_VIII> actually, jumping wouldn't cause that, the brain automagically compensates for the own movement, moving screen would be worse 21:10:37 *** xerxes [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 21:10:37 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:38 <fjb> Eating cookies is a shure way to get shaky images. 21:10:39 *** xerxes is now known as shodan 21:11:26 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 21:11:40 <Gonozal_VIII> -brain +ears and eyes 21:12:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, ears are responsible for measuring the own movement 21:13:19 <Gonozal_VIII> and the eyes do the compensating 21:13:38 <fjb> Try it. 21:14:50 <Gonozal_VIII> try what? moving with my eyes open? i do that every day 21:15:26 <fjb> Weichei. :-P 21:15:53 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 21:16:28 * Belugas has Ghosts in his brain moving at stump speed 21:16:34 <Belugas> the only thing that's real 21:18:09 <fjb> Nothing is real. 21:23:43 <Belugas> # I Focus on the pain 21:23:49 <Belugas> # the only thing that's real 21:24:15 <Belugas> # the needle tears a hole 21:24:23 <Belugas> # the old familiar sting 21:24:35 <Belugas> # try to kill uit all away 21:24:40 <Belugas> # but i remember 21:24:45 <Belugas> # everything 21:32:36 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 21:36:27 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:23 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 21:37:24 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 21:38:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54B71.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:39 *** aleex [alex@muh.cc] has joined #openttd 21:38:43 <aleex> hey ;) 21:38:53 <aleex> i think i've found a bug in 0.6.0-beta5 21:39:02 <aleex> maybe it is already known ... 21:39:16 <Gonozal_VIII> no you didn't! there mustn't be any bugs! 21:39:26 <aleex> the transparecy option for the train load disappears after a while 21:39:38 <aleex> i turn it on again --> after a while it disapeared again 21:39:39 <Gonozal_VIII> O_o 21:40:09 <Gonozal_VIII> during autosave? 21:40:51 <aleex> mom, i'll try that 21:42:07 <Belugas> why does he call you mom, Gonozal_VIII? 21:42:16 <Belugas> at elast, he shold have said dad... 21:42:30 <aleex> no sorry 21:42:31 <Belugas> unless you're a female, of course... 21:42:34 <aleex> i meant "moment" 21:42:37 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know, i guess he's very confused 21:42:39 <aleex> wait a moment ... ;) 21:42:43 <Belugas> lol 21:43:56 <aleex> and no, autosave isn't the problem 21:44:13 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-214-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:44:50 <Belugas> aleex, could you provide screenshot? i cannot run the game right now 21:45:21 <SmatZ> I cannot reproduce it 21:45:34 <SmatZ> it disappears when you press 'X' 21:45:56 <Gonozal_VIII> it's supposed to do that 21:46:03 <Gonozal_VIII> x toggles transparency 21:46:17 <SmatZ> aleex: do you have transparency lock for loading indicators? 21:47:15 <Gonozal_VIII> and what's the point in monitoring gas prices in nÃŒrnberg :S 21:51:43 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:33 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:57:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> X marks the spot. 21:58:37 <Belugas> X as in Exit 21:58:42 <Belugas> Exit as in get out 21:58:45 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:58:51 <Belugas> get out as in END OF THE BORING DAY! 21:58:57 <Belugas> and yeah for the weekend 21:59:00 <Belugas> pfffff.... 21:59:02 <Belugas> good night all, 21:59:04 <Belugas> have fun 21:59:10 * Belugas goes home 21:59:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> you need holidays, urgently ;) 22:02:53 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:06:01 *** Ammller [~Ammler@84.226.4.197] has joined #openttd 22:10:47 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-31-153.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:51 <Ammller> Gonozal_VIII: why don't you ask the devs, if you could use the compilefarm of openttd? 22:12:33 <Ammller> the compilefarm is built, that you can give them a url to patch and everything else will be made automatically, as far as I know from Truelight. 22:12:56 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm 22:13:36 <Gonozal_VIII> you think they would do that? 22:13:41 <Ammller> I guess, if the devs don't know exactly how it works, Truelight would help them 22:13:52 <Ammller> but he don't do it without asking devs before. 22:14:23 <Ammller> thats the way we did it for WWOTTDGD 22:15:23 <Ammller> Gonozal_VIII: its worth for asking... 22:16:02 <Gonozal_VIII> chrisin is better than my stuff and doesn't have that... 22:16:13 <Ammller> I guess, he never asked... :-) 22:17:55 <Gonozal_VIII> devs? deeeeevs? 22:17:58 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 22:18:44 <Ammller> I guess, you need Belugas or bjarni or an other dev with access to the compilefarm 22:24:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54B71.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:24:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:06 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:10 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has joined #openttd 22:30:07 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N905P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N800P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 22:38:58 <Digitalfox> Gonozal_VIII: Are doing the same Steve Balmer did? 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