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00:00:14 <jez9999> i thought that 00:00:17 <jez9999> doesnt seem to be tho 00:01:26 <SmatZ> I am sure it is 00:05:21 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-061-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22:13 <antihcl> haha, this roundabout I'm making is horrible 00:26:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N727P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29:16 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-29-175.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:29 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-88.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:33:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:33:58 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-72-177.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:38:44 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 00:42:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-72-177.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:31 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-29-175.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:46:34 <fjb> Ammller: Your company will be going bankrupt soon. 01:00:04 <Sacro> ooh 01:00:08 <Sacro> OpenTTD avec PBS 01:10:23 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:11:53 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:13:02 *** jez9999 [lefrancais@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 01:16:00 *** Poopsmith [~poop@124-197-37-77.callplus.net.nz] has joined #openttd 01:16:08 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 01:22:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-176-112.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:34:51 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:41:16 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B777D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:24 <Belugas> un jour, Sacro, un jour... 02:11:06 *** fjb [~frank@p5485EB70.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:38 *** einKarl_ [~einKarl@p549925A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:45:36 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:46:20 *** einKarl_ [~einKarl@p549925A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:46 *** einKarl [~einKarl@p549925BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:04:29 <antihcl> aaa train crash 03:12:06 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-146.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15:02 *** Jortuny [~octernion@d113.mertza.swarthmore.edu] has joined #openttd 03:22:58 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-108-43-0.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:27:10 <Rubidium> why do people who want to speak to me go offline 'just' before I'm back? 03:36:28 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-136-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:38:18 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-139-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.188.172] has joined #openttd 03:47:48 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.173.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:51:49 <De_Ghosty> cuz 03:51:54 <De_Ghosty> they are the kgb 03:51:58 <De_Ghosty> bend on driving u insane 04:04:33 *** Jortuny [~octernion@d113.mertza.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:53 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai^zZz`off 05:12:47 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-224-99.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:13:02 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-224-99.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 05:13:14 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-224-99.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:49:35 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-108-43-0.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 06:21:40 *** nfc [nfc@88.195.110.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:52:06 *** snappy [naveen@armakuni.lastninja.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:53:13 <Tefad> po. 06:53:14 <Tefad> and by fucked up i mean is too busy swapping memory on/off disk. 06:53:14 <Tefad> sill 640MB.. 07:00:46 *** snappy [naveen@armakuni.lastninja.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:09 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D83B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:19:47 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 07:20:05 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-108-33-134.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:24:33 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499D83B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 07:27:50 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:31:04 *** larsemil [~larsemil@123-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se] has joined #openttd 07:38:18 <Celestar> morning 07:39:44 <Forked> urgl 07:40:17 <peter1138> Yarly 07:40:25 <Celestar> peter1138: you got a sec? :) 07:41:05 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff6ec300-105.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:42:17 *** Maedhros [~jc@host81-157-37-130.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:47:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> *yawn* 07:51:35 <peter1138> A moment, yes 07:56:10 <Celestar> peter1138: you were talking about code duplication in the newgrf_ports, right? 07:56:41 <peter1138> Mmm 07:56:59 <Celestar> Mmm means yes or no? :P 07:58:27 <Celestar> damn. meeting. be back in 2hours 07:59:53 <peter1138> Vaguely 08:00:06 <peter1138> I mentioned it but haven't looked in depth. 08:33:41 *** Maedhros [~jc@host81-157-37-130.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:23 *** Maedhros [~jc@host81-157-37-130.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:45:26 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-146.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 08:49:42 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5442F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:09:15 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:30 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:23 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has joined #openttd 09:37:28 *** Poopsmith [~poop@124-197-37-77.callplus.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Poopsmith] 09:40:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E87F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:43:39 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 09:49:43 *** einKarl [~einKarl@p549925A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:03:27 <Celestar> back 10:03:30 <Celestar> phew 10:07:08 <larsemil> that was exactly two hours.. you know your meetings. :) 10:07:22 <Celestar> I do :) 10:10:27 *** Sacr1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:10:45 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@88-97-28-112.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:10:51 *** Sacr1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 10:10:59 <RichK67> hi 10:13:25 <Celestar> hi :) 10:13:26 <Celestar> back in 10 10:20:10 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:36 <Celestar> (= 10:25:13 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N718P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 10:26:27 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 10:27:08 <Draakon> hi 10:29:26 <Celestar> peter1138: ping 10:29:43 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:36:27 <Celestar> googleearth 10:36:27 <Celestar> ./googleearth-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libldap-2.3.so.0: undefined symbol: SSL_CTX_set_info_callback 10:36:52 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm250.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:39:17 <Tefad> nice. 10:40:40 <peter1138> Pong. 10:45:17 <Celestar> so can we set up a roadmap for newgrf_ports? ;) 10:50:22 <RichK67> you can set one up... but I drive a tank, and dont exactly keep to the roads ;) 10:50:33 <Celestar> lol 10:54:54 <peter1138> Hmm 10:55:37 <Celestar> RichK67: you've add ACtion0fsmstation, right? 10:55:43 <peter1138> 4 months since beta1... 10:57:02 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 10:57:18 <peter1138> We ought to get RC1 out soon ;0 10:57:56 <RichK67> Action 0 FSMstation is Action 0 0D ... it has many similarities to stations, but enough differences that I feel a merge would be confusing... also, if i just reused Action 0 04, then we would have to add code to all the new station stuff to exclude airports, ports, road FSM stations, etc. 10:59:10 <Celestar> isn'T 0D platform length? 10:59:27 <peter1138> feature 0D, not property, i assume 10:59:27 <Celestar> er wait 10:59:29 <Celestar> sorry 10:59:31 <RichK67> not prop 0D, Action 0 feature 0D 10:59:37 <RichK67> :) 11:00:14 <Celestar> Action 0 feature 0D 11:00:15 <Celestar> oh .. 11:00:19 <Celestar> 0D for airports (No official properties) 11:00:23 <Celestar> this one, right? 11:00:42 <RichK67> yup - since it had already been assigned to airports, it seemed sensible to use it 11:00:49 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 11:00:49 <Celestar> I concur. 11:00:59 <Celestar> do we have ANY documentation of "Action 0 feature 0D" 11:01:23 <Celestar> ah ... so "Action 0 Feature 04 Prop 0D" is "selectable station length" ? 11:01:26 * RichK67 coughs, while pointing to the NewGRF_ports branch ;) 11:02:08 <RichK67> spec version 8/9 (cant remember) is in the root directory of a checkout 11:02:27 <Celestar> there's some doc file :P 11:02:30 <Celestar> in the docs/ 11:03:32 <Celestar> enlighten me, why do props (generally) start with 08 ? 11:04:09 <RichK67> there are some standard props in 01-07 IIRC 11:04:14 <Celestar> ah 11:04:27 <RichK67> cant remember what atm 11:05:41 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-023-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:43 <RichK67> one thing that does need to go on a roadmap is for me to write a "how to create an FSM .grf" tutorial... 11:10:09 <Celestar> omg 11:10:12 <Celestar> this is complicated :P 11:11:09 <RichK67> it is much simpler if you have the commented version of the small airport in front of you as you read it; airports_basic.nfo 11:11:57 *** TheJosh [~josh@d220-238-239-180.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:12:06 <Celestar> looking 11:13:14 <Celestar> the "mini pic" is for the GUI? 11:13:59 <RichK67> yes... compile the branch and take a look; its a preview pic 11:14:59 <Celestar> already doing so ;)( 11:16:22 <RichK67> i thought it important to have, since there could be many 3x4 tile designs, and it will give instant feedback as to what you are getting 11:17:20 <Celestar> I get warnings :P 11:19:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:20:35 <RichK67> probably - i dont, but VC8 doesnt always warn as much as gc++ 11:21:57 <Celestar> hey it rocks :) 11:22:50 <RichK67> cool 11:23:21 <TheJosh> whats the current discussion? 11:23:26 <Celestar> TheJosh: newgrf_ports 11:23:28 <RichK67> i got it a long way along, but then lost all momentum over animation and Munich 11:23:38 <TheJosh> and newgrf_ports is? 11:24:03 <RichK67> if you want some real fun, add realworldairports.grf, and build a san francisco, and then let her rip 11:24:18 <Celestar> RichK67: how's the rotation done? 11:24:22 <TheJosh> converting all the oldgrf things to newgrf? (and therefore a fully independent openttd?) 11:24:23 <Celestar> SFO is cool 11:24:36 <Celestar> TheJosh: newgrf-based airports 11:24:43 <TheJosh> right 11:24:45 <RichK67> Celestar: very simply.... the only thing you need to tell it is what graphics to place 11:24:54 <Ammller> TheJosh: you spoke about OpenGFX :-) 11:25:21 <Celestar> 3 * 9~.. 07 8B 04 < 02 0A DC 00 00 11:25:29 <Maedhros> mmm, i love pbs 11:25:30 <Celestar> what kind of encoding is < ? 11:25:34 <RichK67> the rotation is simple maths (the FSM is identical in any orientation... and the maths handles the translation of coordinates) 11:25:40 <Maedhros> i can finally get away with station layouts like http://devs.openttd.org/~maedhros/pbs.png :-D 11:26:11 <Celestar> we've got working PBS? 11:26:50 <RichK67> Celestar: [bollocks on] NFO is a language you know... [bollocks off] .... < is the instruction for less than in one of their equation thingies 11:26:56 <Maedhros> Celestar: < is an escape sequence for grfcodec - http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action7 (condition-type section) 11:27:42 <Celestar> uh huh 11:27:43 <Celestar> ok 11:27:51 <TheJosh> Maedhros: have you seen my latest patch? 11:28:06 <Maedhros> TheJosh: which one's that? 11:28:33 <TheJosh> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36627 11:28:39 <TheJosh> the first patch of improved shares 11:28:42 <RichK67> Celestar: yes, the airports are effectively PBS... you define the path across the airport, and it will reserve it if it can. if it cant, it will wait, or do other things depending on the coding 11:29:09 <Celestar> RichK67: the "PBS" question was meant for Maedhros (= 11:29:15 <RichK67> Celestar: so aircraft cannot bump on airports - ever 11:29:20 <RichK67> okies :) 11:29:22 <Celestar> RichK67: ok I'll have a check on the code 11:30:03 <Maedhros> Celestar: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36107 -- it seems to be working pretty well so far :) 11:30:42 <Maedhros> TheJosh: ah, yeah, i have seen that one 11:31:05 <TheJosh> Thoughts? 11:31:23 <Celestar> so, is it working? ;) 11:32:06 <Maedhros> TheJosh: i haven't looked at the code, and since i've never seriously played multiplayer, i've never really been interested in shares ;) 11:32:46 <TheJosh> most people arnt because they are often turned off 11:33:02 <TheJosh> but the plan with improved shares is to make it so you cant share cheat then they can be turned on 11:34:12 <Celestar> RichK67: so, what effectively needs doing for newgrf_ports (Apart from adding features of course)? ;) 11:34:19 <Celestar> animations? 11:34:55 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Revolution is coming] 11:39:57 <RichK67> animations, a firm decision about original/new graphics.... these to me are the critical commit stoppers 11:40:17 <RichK67> all the current airports work as advertised 11:40:40 <Gonozal_VIII> new graphics 11:41:52 <RichK67> on graphics: i have coded airportsbasic.grf to use the default graphics for the small, heliport, and large airport. airporsextended has the new airports - and these use skidd13's graphics, without reference to the default 11:42:32 <RichK67> this means that any graphics replacement .grf that changes the default gfx will only change the small, large, and heliport 11:42:49 <RichK67> ie. TTDP compatability is maintained 11:43:13 <Gonozal_VIII> nobody cares about ttdp^^ 11:43:19 <Celestar> ^^ 11:43:30 <ln> nor big brother 11:44:19 * Maedhros must be nobody, then 11:44:51 <Gonozal_VIII> you care about big brother :O 11:44:59 <Gonozal_VIII> kick him! 11:46:14 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-146.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:46:20 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-146.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:56:46 <ln> Gonozal_VIII: i don't. 12:02:08 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 12:02:51 <Gonozal_VIII> but nobody does! :O 12:05:04 <ln> that's nobody's problem. 12:13:01 <Celestar> so Maedhros' problem 12:13:32 <peter1138> PBS ROCKS 12:13:57 <Celestar> commit commit :P 12:14:25 <peter1138> BRANCH FIRST 12:14:29 <peter1138> (for 0.6) 12:14:42 <Celestar> true 12:17:52 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:23:16 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-108-33-134.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:28:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r12381 /trunk/src/ (8 files): 12:28:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS1835] [FS1535] (r11855): The number of houses wasn't computed right. A 12:28:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: few other things regaring the updating had to be changed. Big thanks for support 12:28:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: to frosch123 and SmatZ, to name just a few. (Inspired by a patch of bilbo) 12:36:48 <TheJosh> me off 12:36:49 <TheJosh> nite all 12:36:55 *** TheJosh [~josh@d220-238-239-180.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 12:38:43 <Celestar> ok I'll have a look at some of the bug reports 12:39:08 <Celestar> any suggestions what I should try to fix first? 12:41:09 <Noldo> the ones with High 12:41:24 <Celestar> there are none :P 12:42:45 <Noldo> really? 12:43:28 <Noldo> wow 12:45:10 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:46:52 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-084-063-023-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:34 <peter1138> We close those ones straight away as "not a bug" 12:53:03 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:54:55 *** GorGa [zOS@static-210-151-193.cbn.net.id] has joined #openttd 12:57:32 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm250.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 13:03:11 *** GorGa [zOS@static-210-151-193.cbn.net.id] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09:17 *** GorGa [zOS@static-210-151-193.cbn.net.id] has joined #openttd 13:12:18 *** josch [~josch@p57AD75E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21:28 *** GorGa [zOS@static-210-151-193.cbn.net.id] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:39 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:06 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5EA9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:32:48 *** llugo [~lugo@p4FD5F9FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:49:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:49:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:52:03 *** Osai^zZz`off is now known as Osai 13:55:41 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:19:37 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 14:25:07 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 14:34:10 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B788D5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:36:57 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 14:38:58 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:21 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has joined #openttd 14:43:19 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:05 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 14:44:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:46:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:46:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:48:03 <antihcl> can you destroy only a signal without destroying the track it's on? 14:48:12 <glx> yes 14:48:20 <glx> use the remove tool 14:49:59 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has joined #openttd 14:53:00 <antihcl> oh, durrr me. thanks 14:53:59 <ln> antihcl: "it's" -> "its" 14:55:15 <antihcl> no it isn't 14:55:26 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:55:29 <antihcl> "it's" is a contraction for "it is" 14:55:45 <phin> antihcl: you are correct 14:55:45 <antihcl> its is possessive 14:56:16 <Gonozal_VIII> ln is teh wrongings 14:56:38 <phin> bet he feels pretty stupid now. seeing as he felt all proud to point out something, incorrectly 14:56:42 <phin> heh 14:57:05 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm sure he's crying right now 14:57:15 <phin> heh 14:57:19 <phin> should've just let it be 14:57:21 <RichK67> it's a possibility 14:57:26 <phin> its frickin' irc! 14:57:30 <phin> IT'S!!!!!! 14:57:31 <phin> heh 14:57:45 <ln> it was just an arrow. 14:58:16 <phin> the inevitable "backpedal" 14:58:41 <RichK67> i'm feeling much better now 14:59:05 <antihcl> haha 14:59:13 <phin> im feeling like i should get up on a little online opentdd 14:59:16 <phin> openttd 14:59:19 <phin> never tried it out that way 15:00:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm ln- is missing 15:00:34 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe that's the reason for his failure 15:01:39 <peter1138> Let's call him 1n just to annoy :D 15:01:50 <Gonozal_VIII> In :-) 15:02:10 <Gonozal_VIII> (that was "in") 15:02:30 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as In 15:02:34 <In> :-) 15:02:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 15:02:48 <Celestar> peter1138: got a sec? 15:02:58 <peter1138> What now? :P 15:03:03 <Celestar> :P 15:03:05 <Celestar> C++ question 15:03:29 <Celestar> got a class "foo". Some of the member functions have a parameter of type "foo". How do I do this? 15:03:45 <peter1138> class foo; 15:03:49 <antihcl> phin: it's fun :) 15:03:49 <antihcl> I always pause too much in single player, it prevents me from doing it 15:04:03 <peter1138> before the real class foo { } 15:04:16 <peter1138> Oh, and they're pointer types, I hope 15:04:21 <Celestar> yeah :P 15:04:35 <Celestar> but it doesn't work for some crappy reason :( 15:04:37 <Celestar> I tried 15:04:58 <In> you mean the stuff that every list or tree has? 15:05:16 <Celestar> yeah 15:05:17 <In> can't be so complicated... 15:05:25 <Celestar> I thought so too :P 15:05:50 <Celestar> .... 15:05:55 <Celestar> cyclic includes 15:06:07 <In> oh noes, includes 15:06:20 <peter1138> In, change back :p 15:06:30 <In> why?^^ 15:06:39 <peter1138> ~ ChanServ set +o peter1138 on #openttd 15:06:52 *** In is now known as Gonozal_VIII 15:07:18 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:22 <Gonozal_VIII> you're no fun :P 15:07:37 <peter1138> I know. 15:08:48 <ln> this channel is not about fun. 15:08:51 <antihcl> phin: also, in single player I'm always tempted to restart the game when things go wrong.. it's better if you don't :) 15:09:18 <Gonozal_VIII> then what is this channel about? 15:10:39 <ln> English. 15:11:23 <Gonozal_VIII> you wrote "this" instead of "This" :P 15:12:47 <ln> C++ is case-sensitive. 15:13:00 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm not 15:13:23 <ln> 17:11 < Gonozal_VIII> you wrote "this" instead of "This" :P <-- seems like you are. 15:13:47 <Gonozal_VIII> you said that it's about english :P 15:14:09 <Gonozal_VIII> if you think so, then do it right ;-) 15:15:50 <ln> says a woman without a realname set. 15:16:17 <Gonozal_VIII> woman :S 15:17:42 <ln> how the hell am i supposed to know your gender if you don't have a realname set. 15:18:17 <Gonozal_VIII> because there are no females here? never... 15:18:29 <Belugas> false 15:18:32 <Belugas> there has been 15:18:40 <Belugas> although not very oftenly 15:18:43 <antihcl> aaa I"m going bankrupt 15:18:50 <Gonozal_VIII> i've only seen some spambots with female nicks 15:18:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> jpeg or it didn't happen! :p 15:27:44 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 15:30:13 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 15:30:31 <Draakon> hi 15:32:19 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:45 <peter1138> Bjarni scares them off 15:33:14 <Gonozal_VIII> ? 15:34:22 <Gonozal_VIII> invisible bjarni? 15:34:34 <Gonozal_VIII> so he went from zombie to ghost :O 15:34:45 <ln> implicit Bjarni? 15:45:32 <Belugas> rob zombie 15:46:14 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 15:58:59 *** Nitro [~lol@ti541110a340-3020.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:50 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 16:00:00 <ln> Osai`off: no away nicks. 16:02:06 <hylej> unconfigured bnc 16:02:25 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 16:05:43 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F1E2E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:08:23 <Celestar> HUNGRY 16:08:43 <hylej> braaaaains 16:08:48 <Gonozal_VIII> ha, i have food! 16:08:57 <Gonozal_VIII> but it's all mine! 16:09:11 <hylej> THEN YOU SHALL PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD 16:09:24 * Celestar sneaks up behind Gonozal_VIII with a hugeass club 16:09:40 <Gonozal_VIII> what's the exchange course from blood to euro? 16:10:17 <Gonozal_VIII> behind me is a wall :P 16:10:30 * Celestar emerges from the wall 16:10:33 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:11:01 <yorick> hello 16:11:06 <Gonozal_VIII> people can't do that :P 16:11:15 <hylej> is Celestar people? 16:11:15 <Celestar> who sais that I'm .... human? 16:11:33 *** einKarl [~einKarl@p549925A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:47 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:17:39 <yorick> who created the #openttd.ChrisIN channel, never to have someone in it? 16:20:41 <Gonozal_VIII> who created the #? channel, never to have someone in it? 16:21:08 <glx> chanserv says "Channel masters: Chris82, Smoovious" 16:21:09 <yorick> SmatZ did 16:26:34 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 16:27:56 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@88-97-28-112.dsl.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 16:29:30 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:33 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7A12F.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:37:11 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:38:00 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B788D5.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:42 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:47:09 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:56:50 <antihcl> hmm! can I transfer bus passengers over to a train? 16:57:04 <Gonozal_VIII> yes? 16:57:18 <Gonozal_VIII> why not try before you ask? ;-) 16:57:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r12382 /trunk/src/table/cargo_const.h: -Fix [FS#1864]: use 'items' unit for batteries, fizzy drinks, toys and bubbles in total cargo tab 16:57:46 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:52 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:58:13 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F910.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:19 <peter1138> Yes, but two-way transfers are a go-no. 16:58:32 <Gonozal_VIII> somebody should really fix that.. 16:58:44 <peter1138> Post 0.6! 16:58:49 <peter1138> Branch! 16:59:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's the new magic bullet now? 16:59:07 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 16:59:14 <peter1138> @openttd bugs 16:59:15 <DorpsGek> peter1138: Open Bugs: 24; Not assigned: 17; Closed this week: 10; Opened this week: 11 16:59:16 <Gonozal_VIII> like new map array :-) 16:59:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> "needs new map array" was kinda getting old ;) 16:59:18 <frosch123> @branch 0.6 16:59:26 <frosch123> doesn't work :( 16:59:38 <peter1138> @openttd branch 0.6 16:59:41 <peter1138> :o 16:59:50 <yorick> @list openttd 16:59:50 <DorpsGek> yorick: bug, bugs, changed, commit, download, grf, grfs, info, port, ports, propset, servers, svn, thelog, and youngest 17:00:12 <Gonozal_VIII> yorick is the youngest 17:00:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> @openttd grfs 17:00:19 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: original grf files: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=3407 17:00:19 <yorick> @openttd youngest 17:00:21 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: newgrf files: http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ 17:00:22 <DorpsGek> yorick: latest: r12382 17:00:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> err.. what? 17:00:46 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:50 <yorick> Gonozal_VIII is the youngest! 17:01:02 <Gonozal_VIII> it did the command again.. 17:01:04 <yorick> Gonozal_VIII == r12382 17:01:06 <Gonozal_VIII> buuuug 17:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> gtg 17:02:28 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:29 <peter1138> What? 17:03:43 <Gonozal_VIII> wat he wanted to say is g2g 17:04:22 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 17:07:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:47 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:08:11 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 17:16:11 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:54 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has joined #openttd 17:18:33 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F910.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 17:22:03 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:24:12 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36:12 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489DDF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:42:53 *** anhedral is now known as dih 17:43:19 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5442F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:43:25 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C01D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:51 <dih> :-) 17:44:00 <Gonozal_VIII> hi polly 17:44:17 <dih> hi Gonozi 17:46:40 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5442F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:02:46 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:26 *** dih is now known as anhedral 18:03:39 *** anhedral is now known as dih 18:05:27 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 18:11:15 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has joined #openttd 18:12:00 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DB37.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:12:04 <fjb> Hello 18:12:13 <peter1138> Hi 18:13:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host62-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:13:13 <Wolf01> hello 18:13:38 <fjb> Hello Wolf01 18:13:40 <peter1138> 9800 GX2 :o 18:13:49 <peter1138> Seems a bit overkill :o 18:13:56 <Wolf01> yes :O 18:14:28 <Belugas> a man gatta do what a man gatta do 18:15:16 <fjb> :-) 18:15:19 <Wolf01> gatta? in Italy is the female cat :D 18:16:25 <peter1138> £240 motherboards :o 18:16:27 <Belugas> remove a T and it's the same as in spanish ;) 18:16:29 <peter1138> (Not server boards!) 18:16:47 <fjb> What kind of board is that? 18:16:54 <Belugas> de doo doo doo de daa daa daa 18:16:56 <peter1138> NF790i Ultra... 18:17:46 *** Gonozal [~Gonozal_V@M3353P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 18:17:46 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest1749 18:17:46 *** Gonozal is now known as Gonozal_VIII 18:18:15 * peter1138 still doesn't know which motherboard chipset is good for what i need 18:18:15 <fjb> I don't know which board I would buy today. 18:18:21 <peter1138> there are too many 18:18:36 <fjb> What do you need that computer for? 18:18:40 <peter1138> ottd :D 18:18:59 <fjb> :-) 18:19:10 <fjb> And which OS? 18:19:15 * peter1138 does not want to overclock 18:19:20 <peter1138> ubuntu 18:19:24 * fjb never overclocks. 18:19:27 <stillunknown> nvidia chipsets tend to be power hungry and hot(ish). 18:20:02 <fjb> Depends on the chipset. Sme are power hungry, others are not. 18:20:17 <peter1138> x38 is expensive 18:20:21 <peter1138> p31/p35 not 18:20:33 <fjb> Latest AMD chipsets gave some trouble to open source OSs. 18:20:37 <peter1138> i guess iP35 is the general one to go for at the moment 18:21:12 <fjb> Intel should be well supported by Linux. 18:21:13 <peter1138> but then each manufacturer lists millions of different boards with the same basic chipset 18:21:43 <fjb> Take a board with passive chipset cooling. 18:22:11 <peter1138> Asus P5K, I wonder... 18:22:14 <antihcl> I could overclock if I wanted to, but no need. My processor and mobo are cold like ice :P 18:22:16 <fjb> The small chipset fans are crap. 18:22:59 <antihcl> and I don't need to oc my video card because... I play openttd heh 18:23:12 <fjb> :-) 18:23:19 <dih> what are you smirkin at? 18:23:43 <fjb> My Geforce 6600 is fast enough for all my games. 18:24:07 <antihcl> peter1138: very very happy with my Asus P5K and core 2 duo e6550.. only thing that is really flaky is the onboard wireless, which I don't use 18:24:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:33 <peter1138> I see 7 different P5Ks listed :( 18:24:45 *** Guest1749 [~Gonozal_V@N718P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:52 <glx> <fjb> Take a board with passive chipset cooling. <-- agreed, I have a fan for that and it's always over 6000RPM 18:25:11 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-151-146.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:50 <fjb> The small fans are making trouble sooner or later, sometimes out of the box. 18:25:56 <glx> peter1138: different options ;) 18:27:11 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:28:39 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-208-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:45 <peter1138> Hmm, GA-P35-DS3L 18:29:18 <peter1138> Did Abit solve their capacitor problem? heh 18:30:03 <antihcl> peter1138: with stock cooling at full load, I stay at max 52C on each core, and the cpu is rated for 72C 18:30:04 <antihcl> and it's fast :D 18:30:04 <antihcl> core 2 duo is whoopin up everything else right now 18:30:06 <antihcl> peter1138: get the cheapest one :D 18:30:08 <antihcl> they have options, like wifi and different sound chips and such 18:30:10 <antihcl> the wifi is useless, everything else is great 18:31:23 <antihcl> I'd either go with gigabit or asus, and asus in my opinion is better (and relatively cheap too) 18:33:29 <fjb> peter1138: I just wated to mention that Gigabyte board. 18:33:42 <peter1138> Hmmm? 18:34:12 <fjb> I was looking at some mainboard recomendations. nd that GA-P35-DS3L is one of them. 18:34:47 <fjb> And it shouldn't be too expensive. 18:36:39 <peter1138> Gah, the E8300 is out of stock :( 18:38:00 <antihcl> err. gigabyte haha 18:38:44 <peter1138> looking at graphics cards, 3 of Gigabyte's 8600 offerrings are fanless 18:39:49 <fjb> That is good as long as you have a constant airflow in the casing. 18:41:39 <fjb> Hm, GeForce 8600 GTS with passive cooling gives trouble, a 8600 GT is ok. 18:43:06 <peter1138> 512MB GDDR2 vs 256MB GDDR3... meh 18:43:22 <peter1138> i hate this stuff, heh 18:44:06 <antihcl> only complaint with the gigabyte I bought my dad is that the IDE port is allll the way at the bottom of the board, which makes it impossible to connect his dvd drive to, other than that it's great 18:44:31 <antihcl> buy an xbox :P 18:44:36 <peter1138> hah 18:44:38 <peter1138> got one 18:44:41 <fjb> You need more memory as a texture buffer for 3D stuff. 18:45:00 <Prof_Frink> Buy a thinkpad. 18:45:06 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1751 18:45:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host179-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:45:39 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 18:47:08 <fjb> What is the english term for ProzessorkÃŒhler? 18:47:47 <Gonozal_VIII> cpu fan? 18:47:48 <Belugas> Heat fan ? 18:48:00 <fjb> Oh, thank you. :-) 18:48:01 <Belugas> processor cooler ? 18:48:05 <Belugas> heat sink? 18:48:11 <fjb> Heat sink. 18:48:15 <fjb> Thank you. 18:48:29 <Prof_Frink> Liquid Nitrogen. 18:48:34 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 18:48:49 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:48:50 <fjb> You should buy one where the fan is blowing down to the mainboard, not parallel to the mainboard. 18:48:54 <fjb> :-) 18:48:58 <Gonozal_VIII> force field to stop the motion of the molecules :-) 18:50:15 <peter1138> now i have to convince myself it's a good idea to spend £330 18:50:36 <Prof_Frink> Oh, just get an Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 18:50:41 <peter1138> no 18:51:43 <Gonozal_VIII> order it from the usa, the dollar is extremely weak 18:51:54 <fjb> It is a good idea, because it is good for thze chineese economy. :-) 18:52:06 *** Guest1751 [~wolf01@host62-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:11 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-123-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:46 <Gonozal_VIII> like 3 dollar per pound or something^^ 18:53:50 <Belugas> think of it this way, peter1138: what would you do with that money if not buying that brand new bomb ? 18:54:10 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: Don't say that 18:54:14 <antihcl> fjb: heatsink 18:54:14 <antihcl> doh lag :) 18:54:24 <Prof_Frink> ã330 is a lot of beer. 18:54:35 <Belugas> Prof_Frink: i didn't said that, i wrote it ^_^ 18:55:24 <Prof_Frink> Don't get sarky with me 18:55:36 <peter1138> Well, yeah, beer... 18:55:45 <peter1138> Or ... something I might need. 18:55:56 * peter1138 is going home, without buying anything... 18:56:19 <Prof_Frink> You could pay people's train fares for the ttmeet! 18:56:23 <peter1138> no 18:57:32 <hylej> ottd sprint on wheels 18:57:53 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-127-153.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:21 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:58:33 <fjb> peter1138's new PC gets a "Recommended by #openttd" label. 19:00:52 <ln> peter1138: google says people have bad experience with Asus P5K*. 19:01:46 <ln> peter1138: I was considering P5KC when ordering a new computer, but then chose Gigabyte instead, which I'm still waiting for, damnit. 19:02:21 <SpComb> HSF = Heat-sink-fan 19:03:08 <fjb> Hm, HST = Heat Sink Train... 19:03:13 <SpComb> nein 19:03:39 <glx> it's a ventirad 19:05:53 <fjb> Sounds funny. 19:09:17 <yorick> error: invalid conversion from `int' to `NetworkLanguage`... 19:12:58 <yorick> if (client_lang >= NETWORK_NUM_LANGUAGES) client_lang = 0; triggers the error(added to DEF_SERVER_RECEIVE_COMMAND(PACKET_CLIENT_JOIN)) 19:14:43 <yorick> while the exact same name works fine when done at DEF_CLIENT_RECEIVE_COMMAND(PACKET_SERVER_CLIENT_INFO) 19:15:03 <yorick> " (NetworkLanguage)" (ah, that way :)) 19:16:20 <yorick> and that basically means it HAS TO be inside that enum, which could be a slight problem with "NETLANG_COUNT" 19:16:36 <yorick> I'll just remove (NetworkLanguage) there 19:17:11 <yorick> ooh...talking to self ^^ 19:17:42 * fjb is reading it, but does only know unhelpful answers. 19:19:41 <yorick> how to compile without networking? 19:20:49 <fjb> No, like: int is short for international language which is English. English is also the network language. So converting nglish to English is not useful. :-) 19:21:10 <Maedhros> yorick: ./configure --disable-network, i'd imagine 19:21:25 <Maedhros> oh, wait 19:22:09 * fjb thinks yorick is counting compiling without networking as an unhelpful answer. :-) 19:22:15 <ln> Das LÀngsprofil eines Flusses is nicht mit dem TallÀngsschnitt identisch. -- Der Krater verschwindet immer mehr. 19:22:21 <ln> +t 19:22:34 *** gregor [~Benutzern@h081217056221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #openttd 19:22:37 *** gregor [~Benutzern@h081217056221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has left #openttd [] 19:22:50 <Gonozal_VIII> what crater? 19:23:06 <ln> *Der* crater. 19:23:16 <Prof_Frink> My hovercraft is full of eels. 19:23:24 <yorick> thanks Maedhros 19:23:57 <fjb> Hovercraft wath the driving force of the FBI. :-) 19:24:25 <fjb> was 19:25:11 <ln> those two interesting sentences were from: Maull, Geomorphologie (1938). 19:26:17 <fjb> Oh, you are implementing new river features? 19:26:37 <yorick> who? 19:26:40 <fjb> ln 19:26:57 <ln> not that i know of, but if it helps someone, i can go on quoting random sentences from the book. 19:27:23 <yorick> that's even called pollution 19:27:45 <Patrick`> Prof_Frink: I would like to stroke your nipples 19:27:49 <ln> the thing that i could possibly try next is either tram stops or countries. 19:28:29 <fjb> Quoting random senntences from tram stops? 19:29:06 <yorick> what exactly does tram stops mean? 19:29:49 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:32:20 <ln> yorick: http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/ottd/tramstops4.png 19:32:37 *** jez [xentek@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:32:39 *** jez is now known as jez9999 19:32:44 <jez9999> hello 19:33:03 <yorick> looks nice, ln 19:33:36 <fjb> Cute island. 19:33:45 <yorick> Trams shouldn't just stop on bus stops with tramrails on it, I think. Hello jez9999 19:33:49 <ln> yorick: sadly, it's an image manipulation, not an actual screenshot. but shows the point of tram stops. 19:35:26 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-213-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 19:35:35 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac8.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:35:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:35:35 <Draakon> hi 19:35:41 <yorick> hello 19:35:47 <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni ghost! 19:36:03 <Gonozal_VIII> or zombie again? 19:36:13 <fjb> What is the TTDP newroutes thing? 19:36:19 <Bjarni> is that a trick question? 19:36:23 <yorick> !Gonozal say Bjarni! 19:36:29 <ln> Factorial(Bjarni) 19:37:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:38:56 <dih> Bjarni :-) 19:39:11 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:42 <ln> 21:38 <Belugas> warning : next time i see a non-english string of text from you on IRC, you'd get a kick. It's pretty frustrating to not been able to understand what's it all about. 19:39:43 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has joined #openttd 19:39:46 <ln> 21:38 <Belugas> so... you are warned 19:40:37 <Bjarni> interesting 19:40:51 <Bjarni> what did you do this time? :) 19:41:00 <peter1138> fjb: mythical. 19:41:14 <yorick> get yourself some logs, lord Bjarni _O_ 19:41:21 <ln> Bjarni: only quoted a scientifical book. 19:42:20 <jez9999> my 'auto upgrade vehicles in depot to new track type' patch is nearly ready to roll :-) 19:42:20 <Bjarni> yorick: you are my people... you should do as I tell you to and right now I told you to inform me of what happened while I was busy with what you would most likely want to do 19:42:21 <jez9999> v0.1 19:42:23 <fjb> peter1138: Thank you. What shall it become if it ever gets real? I read something about new bridges where the bridge and the road or rail on it are separated. 19:42:23 <ln> Belugas: rather than getting frustrated by foreign languages, it's easier to ignore such lines. saves your nerves, too. 19:42:49 <Bjarni> today I was inside a bogie 19:42:52 <ln> Belugas: similarly, you hopefully don't go kicking tourists on the street if they speak something you don't understand. 19:43:02 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 19:43:05 <jez9999> ln: speak for yourself 19:43:12 <Bjarni> ln: I do :P 19:43:37 <yorick> Maybe they do in his country...*hmm...how was it called?* 19:44:16 <Bjarni> Afghanistan? 19:44:50 <ln> jez9999: what are you referring to, sir? 19:44:52 <yorick> nah, they shoot at tourists there 19:45:05 <peter1138> fjb, oskar has retired, patchman seems not to do anything any more, csaboka and stevenh seem to have gone or switched, that leaves Mr D, Lakie and JGR. 19:45:18 <Sacro> Mr D? 19:45:21 <Bjarni> ln: but it's a poor comparison. Tourists bring money.... we get nothing from you 19:45:33 <peter1138> fjb, so it's unlikely, although JGR seems to have magic skills 19:45:37 <yorick> Sacro: you don't wanna highlight our DS guy 19:45:38 <peter1138> Sacro, DaleStan. 19:45:41 <fjb> Sacro: Dale Stan. 19:45:44 <peter1138> oh damn ;) 19:45:54 <peter1138> fjb, so we're doing it our way. 19:46:02 <Sacro> ooh 19:46:15 <peter1138> oskar's newroutes specification was a bit limited and, well, hacky, as that's how ttdpatch works :) 19:46:16 <Sacro> Da<tab> ;) 19:46:17 <ln> Bjarni: now, now, you get more patches from me than you can handle. 19:47:00 <Belugas> ln : 1) if you want to quote, it's fine with me. But quoting something nobody but a few do understand is meaningless. If you do want to quote, give the translation ONLY. 2) we are not on a street, we are on a channel where the rule is ENGLISH only. 3) If i need to ignore stuff, i'll ignore the writer of these lines 19:47:00 <fjb> peter1138: I always thought it is anoying that the backside and the road / rail part of the bridge are one sprite. 19:47:12 * DaleStan points out that there are a lot of things that do not look even slightly like "DaleStan" that will draw his attention. 19:47:14 <Bjarni> ln: well... you also bring more work to us :/ 19:47:53 <Sacro> DaleStan: do we get points for each one we find? :) 19:47:54 <ln> Bjarni: yes, and work brings happiness. 19:47:59 * peter1138 wonders if DaleStan has a highlight for Mr D :D 19:48:05 <fjb> TTDP is hacky. Patching something is always hacky. But it is still amazing what they did. But I guess they will reach the limits some time. 19:48:34 <peter1138> You sound like you're excusing my statement :) 19:48:48 <Bjarni> the limit is when there is nothing of the original code left and only patched code 19:49:13 <peter1138> If that's the case then there are no limits... 19:49:27 <Bjarni> peter1138: I don't think he highlights on "Mr D :D" 19:49:39 <yorick> ok, my patch works, so I should focus on "divide et impera!" (yes, that's Latin :p) now :) 19:49:52 <fjb> Hm, when no original code is left, is it till a patch then? 19:50:17 <peter1138> Yes, as it will all be optional... 19:50:22 <Bjarni> if it patches the binary then yes 19:50:29 <DaleStan> I doubt that will ever happen. GRF loading, savegame handling, and sprite drawing are unlikely to be completely patched away. 19:50:35 <fjb> ut the orignal code is the optional part then. 19:50:51 <ln> Belugas: 1) your definition of "a few" surprises me. it looks to me that about half the active people in here are either germans or dutchmen, not forgetting the austrians. 19:51:16 <Bjarni> ohh 19:51:19 <ln> and random swiss. 19:51:23 <jez9999> Belugas: does Rubidium ever talk in here? 19:51:33 <Bjarni> that's why Sacro keeps on declaring me Dutch 19:51:33 <DaleStan> @seen Rubidium 19:51:34 <DorpsGek> DaleStan: Rubidium was last seen in #openttd 16 hours, 24 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Rubidium> why do people who want to speak to me go offline 'just' before I'm back? 19:51:41 <jez9999> heh 19:51:42 <Sacro> Bjarni: you are netherlandian 19:51:42 <yorick> he will if you highlight him 19:51:46 <jez9999> highlight? 19:51:53 <peter1138> jez9999, yes, when he's not on vacation. 19:51:54 <Sacro> yes, like by saying Rubidium 19:52:00 <jez9999> peter1138: oh, he is? 19:52:03 <peter1138> Er, holiday, I'm not American... 19:52:03 <Bjarni> he lacks enough memory for storing all possible countries and decided that if he says Dutch then it's right most of the time 19:52:08 <peter1138> Yeah, in Japan of all places. 19:52:11 <Sacro> if you say it 3 times he appears 19:52:16 <jez9999> checking out their rail infrastructure? 19:52:22 <peter1138> So not only is he not here, when he is here it's the wrong timezone. 19:52:43 <jez9999> well Rubidium seems to know most about autoreplace 19:52:56 <jez9999> need to ask him how tough changing it to upgrade wagons would be 19:53:05 <Sacro> i'd have thouhgt Bjarni knew the most 19:53:05 <Noldo> I though it was Bjarnis brainchild? 19:53:13 <jez9999> hmm was it? 19:53:14 <Sacro> and even I know how to upgrade wagons 19:53:15 <ln> Noldo: apostrophe. 19:53:17 <jez9999> it has rubidium in the comments at the top 19:53:27 <Sacro> he was the last editor of the file 19:53:27 <jez9999> oh, how do you? :-D 19:53:36 * Sacro clicks the magic button 19:53:46 <Bjarni> <jez9999> well Rubidium seems to know most about autoreplace <--- err... I wrote it but it would be natural that somebody else knows it better :P 19:53:48 <peter1138> jez9999: Bjarni wrote it, maybe he knows... 19:54:00 <jez9999> Bjarni: upgrading wagons from one track type to another 19:54:00 <yorick> jez9999: wagon replacement is already there 19:54:03 <peter1138> Oh, slow :) 19:54:10 <jez9999> erm, how do you replace wagons? 19:54:24 <Bjarni> switch the window to wagons ;) 19:54:26 <yorick> "Replacing: Engines" <-- click it 19:54:30 <peter1138> There's a non-obvious button for it... 19:54:41 <jez9999> if this stuff is already there im surprised there isnt already an auto-upgrade of depotized vehicles when you track-upgrade a depot 19:54:59 <Bjarni> feel free to figure out how to make a better one if you like 19:55:07 <Bjarni> it was the best I could come up with at the time 19:55:07 <peter1138> Because there's no simple way to select which wagons get upgraded to which wagons of the new type. 19:55:11 <jez9999> if it's already ok i want to use it 19:55:23 <jez9999> peter1138: why not just choose the first appropriate one? 19:55:31 <jez9999> that's what ive done with engines, works a charm 19:55:33 <peter1138> And then what happens if it fails half way through a depot? 19:55:34 <Bjarni> but it will not replace across tracktype 19:55:45 <jez9999> peter1138: return CMD_ERROR or something for CommandCost? 19:56:05 <fjb> Because steam engines would be converted to electric ones if you electrify the depot. People will really hate that. :-) 19:56:07 <jez9999> it should abort the whole upgrade. ive been using the autoreplace stuff to do it 19:56:13 <jez9999> (the whole depot) 19:56:24 <jez9999> fjb: no, you can easily not do that 19:56:26 <peter1138> Hmm, fun 19:56:27 <ln> jez9999: apostrophe. 19:56:28 <yorick> http://paste.openttd.org/1162 will hopefully be the final version of the FlagsInCLientList before I split it into "Adding more flags" and "Flags In Client List" 19:57:01 <jez9999> ln: comma 19:57:30 <jez9999> am i missing something here, or would it be quite simple to get wagons autoupgraded as well as engines when they're stopped in a depot you upgrade the track type for? 19:57:41 <jez9999> is it a policy decision not to do it, or is there a more serious difficulty? 19:57:47 <jez9999> if it's policy i'll release my patch 19:58:12 <yorick> http://paste.openttd.org/1163 , but I fail at selecting highlight-styles :( 19:58:13 <Noldo> I've always thought that policy decisions where the most serions difficulty 19:58:27 <peter1138> jez9999, partly no-one bothered to do it. 19:58:40 <peter1138> Because of the 'what to upgrade to' issue. 19:58:46 <ln> Noldo: where -> were, serions -> serious 19:59:09 <peter1138> Could be fun with NewGRF wagon restrictions too... 19:59:32 * Maedhros is highly suspicious of yorick's changes to newgrf_text.cpp 19:59:53 <Maedhros> what do grf language codes have to do with networking? 20:00:32 <yorick> Belugas suggested them 20:01:00 <yorick> the language-othertype conversion table is there 20:01:37 <yorick> *if anything goes wrong, blame the french!* :p 20:02:21 <glx> why did you change strings.cpp? 20:02:31 <glx> put the empty lines back 20:02:57 <yorick> some changes have been there, but not anymore, so I'll put the lines back 20:05:50 <glx> and be careful with trailing whitespaces 20:06:26 <glx> - 20:06:26 <glx> + 20:06:39 <glx> like this 20:06:45 <Gonozal_VIII> trailing whitespaces is dangerous because whitespaces don't like to be trailed! 20:07:03 *** UserErr0r [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:08 <ln> Gonozal_VIII: *are* dangerous 20:07:39 <Slowpoke> why 'are'? 20:07:43 <Gonozal_VIII> no 20:07:45 <ln> plural. 20:07:50 <Gonozal_VIII> not the way i used it 20:07:52 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 20:08:05 <Slowpoke> trailing sth. is... 20:08:15 <Gonozal_VIII> yep 20:08:34 <ln> red flowers is pretty. 20:08:49 <Gonozal_VIII> reding :-) 20:08:58 <Maedhros> watering flowers is necessary 20:09:01 <ln> Gonozal_VIII: that's NOT ENGLISH. 20:09:10 <Gonozal_VIII> but trailing is 20:09:26 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:41 <ln> Gonozal_VIII: we'll need a lexical analysis of your sentence. 20:09:42 <Slowpoke> in your sentence the "is" refers to the adjective "red", in the sentence above it refers to the verb "trailing" 20:09:54 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has joined #openttd 20:10:23 *** UserError [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:38 <Gonozal_VIII> it's the languages fault that the adjective and verb are the same 20:10:48 <ln> Gonozal_VIII: apostrophe. 20:11:00 <Gonozal_VIII> pff 20:11:23 <ln> can some native confirm whether or not "pff" is english? 20:11:23 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A473D5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:11:23 <Prof_Frink> ln: Grocer's apo'strophe? 20:11:41 <Noldo> ln: are you ok? 20:11:46 <Prof_Frink> ln: It's an acceptable variant on "pfft" 20:11:59 <glx> + if (client_lang >= NETWORK_NUM_LANGUAGES) client_lang = 0; <-- I'd use a nice "kick the sender" 20:12:16 <ln> Noldo: i'm fine, thank you. helping with upholding the rule of using English. 20:12:40 <SmatZ> :-D 20:13:14 <Gonozal_VIII> you were posting random german stuff some minutes ago :P 20:14:12 <Noldo> ln: I'm starting to feel that that is just a symptom 20:14:19 <yorick> glx: why? 20:14:40 <glx> if it sent a wrong value, it should be a hacked client 20:15:09 <ln> Gonozal_VIII: i know, but then Belugas reminded me of the value of English. and this is certainly not the first time that I'm attempting to keep up some quality of language around here. 20:15:31 <ln> Noldo: dunno. maybe you should go see a doctor to find out. 20:15:34 <glx> yorick: for NETWORK_CHANGETYPE_* you could use some bit stuff instead 20:16:08 <glx> like NETWORK_CHANGETYPE_ALL = NETWORK_CHANGETYPE_NICK | NETWORK_CHANGETYPE_LANGUAGE 20:16:31 <glx> will simplify if (changetype == NETWORK_CHANGETYPE_ALL || changetype == NETWORK_CHANGETYPE_NICK) { 20:16:51 <yorick> to? (just curious and not very good at bit stuff) 20:17:07 <glx> if (HasBit(changetype, xxx)) 20:18:19 <yorick> I'm off for today, bye! 20:18:30 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: ] 20:20:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-102-143.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:25:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.188.172] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:26:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.188.172] has joined #openttd 20:28:35 <ln> Belugas: do you evaluate each line independently or in context? 20:29:04 <Gonozal_VIII> the right answer should be "yes" 20:29:21 <Gonozal_VIII> as in both :-) 20:30:17 <ln> i mean, what happens if the language used in a particular line cannot be determined? 20:30:27 <peter1138> So... 20:30:28 <Belugas> ? 20:30:34 <peter1138> My other half said "HOW MUCH?!" 20:30:36 <glx> then it is not english 20:31:21 <peter1138> ln, you ought to stop, as... that's my job. 20:31:48 <ln> for example, what language is this: will 20:31:53 <Belugas> [16:30] <@peter1138> My other half said "HOW MUCH?!" <--- lol! Mine would say the same thing :D 20:32:20 <peter1138> Then it was the counter-phrase, "well it's your money, you can spend it how you like" 20:32:32 <peter1138> So... "permission" of the I WILL MAKE YOU GUILTY kind! 20:33:11 <Draakon> gonozal_VIII: are you updating your patchpack? :) 20:33:38 <Gonozal_VIII> yes... but don't ask me when^^ 20:33:44 <Bjarni> this is a weird channel... nobody wondered about my statement about being inside a bogie :/ 20:33:56 <peter1138> We're used to ignoring you. 20:34:28 * hylej runs over Bjarni by a tilting bogie 20:34:37 <Bjarni> peter1138: :P 20:35:03 <Bjarni> well 20:35:04 <peter1138> ln, go on... 20:35:11 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 20:35:35 <Bjarni> if nobody wonders about it then I guess you aren't worthy of being told why or anything :p 20:35:38 <ln> peter: will, kind, handy, radio, zone, ... 20:35:50 <ln> +1138 20:36:02 <peter1138> ln, no, I meant hylej's sentence. 20:36:39 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, i was also thinking about that 20:36:43 <ln> the sentence hardly made any sense anyway. 20:37:24 <peter1138> s/by/with/ fixes it of course. 20:38:21 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Your patch packs makes YAPP really buggy... 20:39:05 <glx> fjb: often happens when many patches are merged 20:39:19 <glx> and people wants everything in trunk 20:39:28 <fjb> I know... 20:39:35 <ln> fjb: that sounded like a plural/singular conflict. 20:40:01 <fjb> ln, thank you. You are my spellchecker. 20:40:11 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:40:13 <Bjarni> it's quite common that somebody commits something that breaks a working copy for somebody else 20:40:14 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as people 20:40:15 <ln> glx: "people want" 20:40:24 * people wants everything in trunk 20:40:33 <fjb> :-) 20:40:34 *** people is now known as Gonozal_VIII 20:40:36 *** antihcl [~antivert@86.99.72.209] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:40:49 <glx> @kick ln stop fixing my bad english ;) 20:40:49 *** ln was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [stop fixing my bad english ;)] 20:41:00 *** ln [~lanurm@castor.utu.fi] has joined #openttd 20:41:02 *** Draakon is now known as Goverment 20:41:03 <ln> Bjarni: and when that happens, it's best to hope the somebody else is not Tron. 20:41:18 *** Goverment was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [I always wanted to try this :D] 20:41:18 *** Goverment [~chatzilla@88-196-103-213-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 20:41:30 <glx> lol 20:41:35 <Goverment> wtf? 20:41:41 <ln> wtf is a "Goverment"? 20:41:42 *** Goverment is now known as Draakon 20:41:43 <Belugas> :D 20:41:48 <Bjarni> lol 20:41:51 <Draakon> stupid bot! 20:42:04 <fjb> :-) 20:42:13 <Belugas> don't need a bot for that ;) 20:42:30 <Draakon> i dint correct DorpsGek english 20:42:30 <SmatZ> lol 20:42:36 <Bjarni> lol 20:42:45 <ln> Draakon: typo + missing genitive 20:42:50 <Draakon> as this was the reason for the kick: YOU (Goverment) have been booted from #openttd by Bjarni (I always wanted to try this :D) 20:42:57 <Draakon> ojn 20:42:59 <Draakon> oh 20:43:02 <Draakon> sorry 20:43:06 <Draakon> i thought it was bot 20:43:24 <Draakon> but why on me Bjarni? 20:43:38 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-213-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 20:43:39 <ln> Draakon: it's yet to be proven. remember that Bjarni doesn't have photos of him online, and his phone number cannot be found online either. 20:43:40 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-213-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 20:43:47 <Bjarni> I just wanted to kick Goverment 20:43:57 <Draakon> lol 20:44:00 *** Draakon is now known as Goverment 20:44:10 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 20:44:15 <Bjarni> it's funnier the first time 20:44:20 * Goverment kicks Bjarni out of the country 20:44:28 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-208-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:34 <ln> Bjarni: please kick him for misspelling. 20:44:36 *** Goverment is now known as Draakon 20:44:56 <ln> Bjarni: misspelling twice. 20:44:59 <Draakon> missspelling? 20:45:06 <glx> missing n 20:45:07 <Draakon> what missspelling? 20:45:11 <Draakon> where? 20:45:16 <peter1138> Government. 20:45:31 <Bjarni> Govermennt :P 20:45:40 <Draakon> big deal ln 20:45:46 <SmatZ> :-) 20:45:52 <ln> Draakon: the language on this channel is ENGLISH. 20:46:00 <SmatZ> looks like Govemrnent anyway 20:46:00 <Bjarni> not Engrish 20:46:08 <Draakon> it was in english 20:46:13 <Bjarni> *English 20:46:15 <Gonozal_VIII> better change the topic to something like english 20:46:21 <ln> Draakon: it was in misspelled english, which is not the same as english. 20:46:22 <Draakon> oeh 20:46:28 <Draakon> omg 20:46:30 <Draakon> big deal 20:46:32 <Draakon> get over it 20:46:34 <Bjarni> no 20:46:41 <Bjarni> it's a serious offence 20:46:43 <Draakon> k, get a life then 20:47:18 * fjb pipes everything through ln to get corrected. 20:47:43 <Bjarni> actually if you have a nice touch with the language then it disturbs you with the errors 20:47:54 <Nuhru_> me starts piping too | ln 20:47:56 <Bjarni> and it takes attention from the contents 20:48:00 <Draakon> where in the laws of any country is said that typo or miss spelling is a serious offense in criminal 20:48:02 <Draakon> ? 20:48:06 <Draakon> no where! 20:48:10 <Bjarni> here 20:48:20 <Bjarni> I am the law 20:48:23 <ln> Draakon: who is miss Spelling? is she pretty? 20:48:29 <Bjarni> lol 20:48:35 <Draakon> ln: you are! 20:49:42 <peter1138> God, you lot don't half talk shit. 20:50:44 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B384.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:50:53 *** pv [~pv@a91-152-176-182.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:51:48 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7A12F.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:53:46 <fjb> Gonobug = Bug invented by the Gonozal patch pack. 20:54:00 <Gonozal_VIII> yay? 20:54:13 <Draakon> gonobug? 20:54:21 <Draakon> what bug is that? 20:54:24 <Forked> :) 20:54:46 <fjb> I'm playing a network game with the Gonozal patch pack. The bugs are sometimes horrible... 20:54:50 <peter1138> Gonorrhea :o 20:55:00 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 20:55:01 <fjb> :-) 20:55:07 <SmatZ> :) 20:55:11 <peter1138> fjb, you know what to do with bugs, right? 20:55:33 <fjb> peter1138: Use a hammer on them? 20:55:44 <Draakon> the gono names are attacking our planet! quick, run for you lives! (if you have one :P) 20:56:16 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:50 *** TheMasterSwordsman [~TMS@71-12-20-070.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #openttd 20:57:32 *** Draakon is now known as Zombie 20:57:41 <Zombie> BRAINS! 20:58:03 *** Zombie is now known as Draakon 20:58:24 <TheMasterSwordsman> So, in OpenTTD. I'm building an airport, and I'm aware of the "you must have a depot" rule, but this is air transport, how do I add air vehicles to an airport if there IS no such thing as an air depot? 20:58:36 <Draakon> ln was booted from #openttd by DorpsGek (stop fixing my bad english ;)) 20:58:38 <Draakon> LOL! 20:58:50 <Prof_Frink> TheMasterSwordsman: The plane depot is part of the airport 20:58:53 <peter1138> TheMasterSwordsman: Airports automatically have hangars on them. 20:59:28 <jez9999> ok, i see the wagon replacement code is built in to the autoreplace stuff 20:59:39 <TheMasterSwordsman> I clicked on the hangar and, it won't bring up any type of dialog like a depot would. 20:59:46 * TheMasterSwordsman tries again. 20:59:50 <TheMasterSwordsman> Ah, there it goes. 20:59:54 <glx> then it was not the hangar 20:59:54 <TheMasterSwordsman> I hate it when computers do that. 21:00:00 <jez9999> so, question; you said it could be difficult sorting out the newGRF wagon restrictions. but given that this autoreplacement will probably stay in the trunk, why not just hook the auto-depot-upgrade into the autoreplace? 21:00:03 <TheMasterSwordsman> Probably wasn't, mistake on my part. 21:00:10 <jez9999> the autoreplace code will be maintained to work with the NewGRF stuff 21:00:15 <peter1138> jez9999: it's not difficult if you don't mind it failing (CMD_ERROR) 21:00:25 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-213-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: BRAINS! I NEED BRAINS!] 21:00:27 <SmatZ> TheMasterSwordsman: http://forum.tycoonez.com/download.php?id=4274 21:00:37 <jez9999> well what else could it possibly do if the new track doesnt support the current wagon cargo type? 21:00:44 <jez9999> would you expect it to do something else? 21:00:58 <jez9999> (frankly that sounds like a dumb rule to me, i wont be using any newgrf sets that implement it) 21:00:58 <peter1138> No... that was a straight statement :p 21:01:40 <peter1138> Some sets implement only passengers, mail and goods on maglev, for instance. 21:01:47 <peter1138> But then if you're using such a set, you'll know. 21:01:53 <peter1138> So no biggie. 21:01:56 <jez9999> the approach i've adopted in my patch is, when the depot track's being upgraded, to temporarily switch the current player's autoreplace settings to replace engines of the old type with the first appropriate one of the new type 21:01:59 <jez9999> then switch them back afterwards 21:02:02 <ln> #openttd.non-english 21:02:03 <jez9999> is there a better way to do it? 21:02:54 <jez9999> peter1138: well before people were talking about there being no easy way to choose what you replace the wagon with but if there's no (eg. coal) implementation, presumably you dont mind that 21:03:46 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:57 *** pv [~pv@a91-152-176-182.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Rm] 21:15:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 21:16:04 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has joined #openttd 21:17:02 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:20 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:17:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:59 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 21:28:02 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 21:28:56 *** UserError [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:41 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:31:50 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 21:34:46 *** UserErr0r [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:08 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac8.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:32 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:33 *** dih is now known as anhedral 21:55:53 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:55:58 <Patrick`> anhedral: chemistry nick? 21:57:34 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:59:45 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 22:00:57 *** anhedral is now known as dih 22:02:06 <Patrick`> NOOOOOOOO 22:02:10 <Patrick`> clarke is dead 22:02:31 <SmatZ> :-( 22:08:19 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B384.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:44 *** Maedhros [~jc@host81-157-37-130.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:30:14 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 22:30:56 <Chrill> Finally released the scenario Archipiélago Hermoso: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=36465 22:35:36 * Brianetta cries 22:35:38 <Brianetta> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7304004.stm 22:36:22 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44:17 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf how can return and frog be the same word 22:45:52 <peter1138> Yeah! How can lead and lead be the same word? 22:46:15 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm 22:46:18 <Chrill> the Return of the Frog? 22:47:46 <Gonozal_VIII> lead leads you straight down :-) 22:48:02 <Gonozal_VIII> or something like that... 22:53:46 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5442F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:56:08 *** Sacro is now known as Sickro 22:56:36 <jez9999> hmm 22:56:55 <jez9999> do we have a macro or something in the openTTD code to find the IndexOf a value in an array? 22:56:59 <Chrill> Finally released the scenario Archipiélago Hermoso: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=36465 22:57:07 <Chrill> [/spam] 23:00:05 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:02:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12383 /trunk/src/saveload.cpp: -Fix [FS#1860]: Check return of AfterLoadGame for success or failure when loading TTD games. 23:02:23 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-88.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:04:07 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 23:08:58 *** dih is now known as anhedral 23:10:22 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DB37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:12 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:56 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:20:17 *** foe [~cla@c83-253-229-235.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 23:20:57 <foe> Is there's a patch that allows total buyouts/takeovers in multiplayer mode? 23:21:03 <peter1138> nope 23:22:04 <Patrick`> that'd just ruin the game 23:22:05 <foe> Darn - would add an interesting dimension to the game 23:22:16 <foe> Ruin? How come? 23:22:24 <Patrick`> richest player wins. 23:23:03 <Gonozal_VIII> new player joins... other player buys right away 23:23:55 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C1BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:24:11 <foe> Yeah, just like in real life - would be a pity... :> 23:24:41 <jez9999> do we have a macro or something in the openTTD code to find the IndexOf a value in an array? 23:24:46 <Gonozal_VIII> in real life you can't buy stuff without the owners permission... 23:25:04 <glx> jez9999: no 23:25:20 <foe> And who is the owner of a company introduced to the stock market? 23:25:51 <Gonozal_VIII> it's not in the stock market, the game share system is all wrong 23:26:19 <Gonozal_VIII> you start with a bank loan, not money from the stock market, so you are the owner 23:26:55 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 23:27:00 <Gonozal_VIII> and you should get money for selling shares... that's the point in selling shares... 23:27:14 <foe> As all new players build their companies with borrowed money, the result belongs to whoever lend that money. Be the investor a bank or the stock market... 23:27:27 <Gonozal_VIII> no 23:27:43 <Gonozal_VIII> the bank has no rights on the company 23:28:18 <foe> You're right, if it's a mere loan. 23:28:22 *** Poopsmith [~poop@124-197-37-77.callplus.net.nz] has joined #openttd 23:28:26 <Gonozal_VIII> and indeed it is :-) 23:30:20 <foe> :) 23:30:41 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:40:47 *** foe [~cla@c83-253-229-235.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: foe] 23:46:42 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai^zZz`off 23:47:29 <jez9999> hum 23:47:41 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:41 <jez9999> so, autoreplace all trains in depot does upgrade engines and wagons for trains in the depot... 23:47:48 <jez9999> but wagon chains don't get replaced 23:47:59 <jez9999> is there any way to make them get replaced too (if wagons are being replaced)? 23:48:13 <Gonozal_VIII> the button in the depot? 23:48:44 <Gonozal_VIII> that doesn't work? 23:48:53 <Gonozal_VIII> then it's a bug :-) 23:49:36 <Gonozal_VIII> you spotted a bug, now you can do the happy dance 23:50:38 <glx> oh no, not another autoreplace bugs 23:58:34 <Rubidium> wow... jez9999 not being offline when I'm online