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ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c122-107-243-224.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:25:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r12716 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Do not compare StationIDs with DepotIDs or WaypointIDs. 12:34:16 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:44:22 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.154.26.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:42 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm16.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 12:48:31 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 12:54:39 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:05 *** Yexo__ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 12:56:44 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05:57 *** Brianetta 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Can you please check, if it is ok and accorsing to the General Wiki Style? Thx 13:49:47 * planetmaker adds a rumble from the lower planes of the spheres 13:54:08 <Belugas> Aylomen, why did you "bolded" paper that way? 13:55:23 <Gekz> well, at least you know you're reading about paper 13:55:25 <Gekz> xD 13:55:31 <Belugas> only the first occurence would have been enough 13:59:19 <Aylomen> ok 14:00:19 <Belugas> apart from that, i do not see anything wrong 14:00:24 <Belugas> good initiative :) 14:01:27 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B7D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:41 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489D9C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E325.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:17 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 14:13:06 *** Robert__ [Robert@anancy-153-1-33-145.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 14:13:15 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:14:00 <Gekz> hmm 14:14:12 <Gekz> trying to use the alpine climate with Pikka's basic industries 14:14:16 <Gekz> its not working out too well >_> 14:15:29 <Gekz> for some reason it the map generates normal oil wells 14:15:32 <Gekz> as well as Pikka's ones 14:15:34 <Gekz> >_> 14:17:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> they both use newindustries features, it's not expected to go well at all 14:17:48 <yorick> do any openttd versions for puppy linux exist? 14:17:56 <hylje> yorick: ask puppy :P 14:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> yorick: does it have a compiler? 14:18:21 <Gekz> yorick: do not use puppy linux 14:18:29 <Gekz> you will not get a working version of openttd for it 14:18:31 <Gekz> give up now. 14:18:33 <Gekz> seriously. 14:18:37 <yorick> Eddi, nope 14:18:53 * Gekz knows the developer of Puppy and used to contribute 14:19:04 <yorick> hmm...isn't there anything that can boot from usb pendrive and runs openttd? 14:19:14 <Gekz> you could try SliTaz 14:19:21 <Gekz> http://slitaz.org/en 14:19:28 <Gekz> it has a compiler :) 14:19:32 <Gekz> and can be installed to a usb 14:19:44 <peter1138> hmm, openttd livecd! 14:19:48 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause2: is there a patch to slow down the speed that days change? 14:19:54 <peter1138> (or key, heh) 14:19:59 <Gekz> peter1138: I'm already planning to make it lol 14:20:01 <peter1138> Gekz: turbo button :D 14:20:02 *** Robert_ [Robert@anancy-153-1-20-157.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:20:02 <yorick> I need something that also runs virtualized :) 14:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> Gekz: yes, it is called daylength patch 14:21:47 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause2: I suppose you use it? 14:21:48 <Gekz> :P 14:22:30 <yorick> ooh-puppy can run wine! 14:22:46 <Gekz> yorick: dont do it 14:22:48 <Gekz> I swear to you 14:23:02 <Gekz> I made the only "working" version of wine in 2 years 14:23:03 <Gekz> lol 14:23:08 <Gekz> I regret bothering 14:24:09 <yorick> get me something else that can 1.boot from usb 2.run virtualized from usb 3.both without changing the host system :) 14:25:25 <Gekz> I already linked you 14:25:27 <Gekz> fark 14:25:31 <Gekz> http://slitaz.org/en 14:26:01 <yorick> does it run virtualized aswell? 14:26:44 <Gekz> what OS can't be run virtualised 14:27:12 <Gekz> yorick: how familiar are you wiht linux? 14:27:34 * yorick quickly hides under stone 14:27:48 <Gekz> thats right 14:27:55 <Gekz> you look in /usr/local in puppy 14:27:58 <Gekz> there shuold be nothing 14:28:04 <Gekz> but almost the entire OS is in there 14:28:07 <Gekz> for no logical reason 14:28:56 * yorick boots puppy 14:32:17 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:41 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:33:58 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 14:34:39 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 14:35:06 <peter1138> Gekz: does puppy compile everything locally then? 14:35:20 <Gekz> peter1138: no 14:35:24 <peter1138> or is the packager an idiot? 14:35:25 <Gekz> the idiot developer likes to move things there 14:35:27 <Gekz> idiot 14:35:30 <Gekz> absolute fucking idiot 14:35:34 <Gekz> its not even /usr/local/bin 14:35:45 <Gekz> its /usr/local/soemthingrandom/somethingworse/abinary/binary 14:35:52 <peter1138> lol 14:35:52 <Gekz> and all the libraries are scattered 14:35:53 <Gekz> old 14:35:56 <Gekz> useless 14:35:58 <peter1138> so they're a windows user really 14:36:01 <Gekz> YES 14:37:17 <yorick> puppybackground,...puppymirror...remotedesktoppcclient...lib...man...Dotpupdownloader...apps...bin 14:37:25 <Gekz> lol 14:37:26 <Gekz> told you 14:38:36 <yorick> with ls, it's even worse 14:38:57 <Gekz> I know. 14:39:36 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause2: how long are your days on OpenTTD? 14:39:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> x4 in my last game 14:40:29 <Gekz> whats the default? 14:40:45 * Gekz hasnt used the patch yet 14:40:49 * Gekz is compiling 14:41:01 <Gekz> ah, 4 times as long as default 14:41:02 <Gekz> ok 14:42:43 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:49:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12718 /branches/noai/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIVehicle::GetCurrentSpeed 14:51:19 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:52:10 <pavel1269> hi 14:55:01 <Belugas> hello 14:57:26 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:00:56 <yorick> 32bpp screenshots are terribly big 15:01:40 <yorick> and I mean...1.6 MB /screenshot 15:04:22 <Belugas> couild it be that's because there's a lot more infos/colors to capture?? 15:05:11 <Celestar> :P 15:05:20 <Celestar> is that already compressed? 15:05:30 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 15:05:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> theoretically, a 32bpp picture that uses only 256 colours should compress to the same size as a 8bpp picture using 256 colours 15:05:35 <Belugas> wow... a screenshot of my desktop is JUST 7.6 meg... 15:05:42 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12719 /branches/noai/src/ (ai/ai_gui.cpp players.cpp): 15:05:42 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: finished the Reload AI button in AIDebug Window. 15:05:42 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Note: Now there is no longer need for you to ever shut down OpenTTD while creating an AI. 15:05:42 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Just hit Reload when you made a code change, the company is killed and restarted with your latest code. 15:07:13 <yorick> Belugas...wow...mine is only 200kb(png) 15:12:13 <Tefad> Eddi|zuHause2: i find that rarely to be the case 15:12:58 <Tefad> (unless you palletize first, but then it's no longer 32bpp ; ) 15:13:16 <yorick> hmm...I should put my screenshots online somewhere 15:13:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> Tefad: just shows the compressing algorithms still allow for some improvement 15:15:40 <Tefad> isn't png deflate only 15:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> but honestly, even a trivial compressing algorithm, if it combines 4 byte and sorts for occurance, should yield a result similar to a palette 15:16:35 <Tefad> ehhh 15:16:39 <Tefad> perhaps 15:18:15 <Tefad> sometimes the color sequence is changed to achive better compression 15:18:50 <Tefad> not possible for stuff like 8bit ottd graphics ; ) 15:20:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's why i said with sorting... you take the highest occuring {4 byte, colour}-pattern, and assign it the lowest [Huffman]number 15:21:29 <Tefad> i've written a huffman codec with file implementation in java.. it was.. interesting 15:21:39 <Tefad> kind of crappy though blocksize = filesize 15:22:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, huffman code is not very speed-efficient when dealing with bytes 15:22:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> so they'd probably use other algorithms 15:23:07 <Tefad> arithmetic encoding would be slightly better iirc 15:23:39 <Tefad> lzma ppm are pretty good algorithms today 15:23:58 <Tefad> for speed there's lzo 15:29:22 <nicfer> 8bit openttd graphics? so, will be possible to port ottd to the NES? lol jk 15:29:54 *** Robert__ [Robert@anancy-153-1-33-145.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #openttd [Quitte] 15:32:37 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 15:33:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12720 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_vehicle.cpp ai_vehicle.hpp ai_vehicle.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Add: functions to get the capacity/current load of a vehicle given a cargo type. 15:34:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12721 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_engine.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: also check articulated parts when determinine the capacity of an unbuilt vehicle. 15:37:21 * yorick acidentally deleted over 100 meg of saves 15:37:53 * planetmaker is reminded thus to get a new backup disc... 15:39:38 <yorick> data recovery utility is looking for files to get back :) I deleted the backup dir instead of the regular dir 15:42:27 <yorick> pfew...it managed to restore everything 15:42:40 * planetmaker feels also relieve. 15:43:08 *** Digitalfox_Home [~chatzilla@bl7-184-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]] 15:43:30 <yorick> why do you feel relieve for me? 15:45:15 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-184-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:46:59 <yorick> my openttd dir began to take over 1 gb, so I thought about moving it to external hd 15:47:54 <Sionide> ouch 15:47:59 <Sionide> i remember when it was two floppy disks 15:48:29 <yorick> grfs quickly take up my space, with some saves 15:48:51 <Sionide> and giant screenshots of huge maps? :p 15:48:52 <Sionide> heh 15:49:10 <yorick> not even 15:49:11 <Sionide> saved to bmp of course! 15:49:38 <yorick> that would seriously hurt to the flashdrive 15:50:55 <yorick> wonderfull how much you can get on the internet 15:51:03 <yorick> there is almost more data than storage on i 15:51:04 <yorick> t 16:02:29 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:03:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.207.60] has joined #openttd 16:04:14 *** Priski- [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 16:05:14 *** Konsti_Ger [~a@DSL01.83.171.154.26.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:21 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:21 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:21 *** Priski- is now known as Priski 16:05:21 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.154.26.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:37 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 16:05:42 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has joined #openttd 16:05:58 *** Konsti_Ger is now known as Aylomen 16:06:11 *** kjetil__ [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:06:31 <kjetil__> hrm 16:06:33 <Forked> huh 16:06:33 <Forked> [Lag: 207 (??)] :\ 16:06:35 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 16:06:36 *** kjetil__ is now known as Forked 16:07:51 <Forked> pong 16:07:52 <Forked> :) 16:08:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> 0 seconds 16:08:11 <Forked> after the reconnect =) 16:08:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, but you reconnected before you said you'd leave :p 16:08:47 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DE54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:09:11 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.207.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12722 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add (or -Feature for yorick): added AITile::IsSteepSlope(), AITile::IsHalftileSlope() and AITile::GetComplementSlope() 16:15:15 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:17:25 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has quit [] 16:32:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:57:47 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:58:13 <hylje> No planes 16:58:15 <hylje> No cars 16:58:17 <hylje> No boats 16:58:19 <hylje> Trains only 17:15:31 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 17:21:09 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:49 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:28:57 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-104-45.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:33:52 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41673.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:33:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:34:00 <extspotter> Hylje? 17:34:08 <extspotter> Are you playing online or something? 17:37:39 <hylje> :o 17:37:45 <hylje> as a matter of fact yes 17:38:08 <Digitalfox> YESYES... I WAS ADMITTED TO UNIVERSITY =0 17:38:32 <Digitalfox> Now hard study to get ready :( 17:39:10 <Bjarni> admitted? 17:39:46 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host86-134-53-216.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 17:40:03 <Digitalfox> Well I work already and have more than 24 years, so I had to make special exams to prove I can enter :) 17:40:46 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host86-134-53-216.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:40:50 <extspotter> which game? 17:41:12 <Bjarni> I thought it sounded odd considering my impression of your age 17:42:44 <Bjarni> Digitalfox: you are now a special case 17:42:48 <Bjarni> we noticed ages ago 17:43:19 <Belugas> [13:42] <@Bjarni> we noticed ages ago <--- hoo.... a joke :D 17:43:20 <Belugas> AGES 17:43:23 <Digitalfox> Portugal is having a hard time and higher education is needed to have qualifications to work on IT freely.. 17:43:57 <Bjarni> the same goes for Spain and Italy 17:44:03 <Bjarni> it's a serious issue >_< 17:44:07 <yorick> bjarni! 17:44:24 <yorick> just 11 minutes too late 17:44:28 <Digitalfox> While I have lot's of certifications.. Like MCSE, CCNP and others most companys now want a guy with higher education to mantain there networks 17:44:57 <Digitalfox> So don't have a choise.. But I do think higher education is always better :) 17:45:09 <Bjarni> me too 17:45:18 <Bjarni> that's why I'm aiming at a master degree 17:45:35 <Digitalfox> Bjarni I'm thinking doing the same also :) 17:45:44 <Digitalfox> More is never less ;) 17:46:00 <Bjarni> I will beat you to finish it 17:46:17 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-104-45.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:46:20 <Digitalfox> well 3+1 years.. So you have 4 years to do it == 17:46:22 <Digitalfox> =0 17:47:05 <Bjarni> uni will kick me out if it takes me another 4 years 17:47:26 <Bjarni> would fail to meet the 5 year limit for going from bachelor to master 18:03:27 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:10:37 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-108-183.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:16:08 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 18:16:17 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-168-058.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:47 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 18:38:16 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 18:40:03 <SmatZ> hllo 18:40:05 <SmatZ> e 18:40:16 <pavel1269> i 18:40:16 <pavel1269> h 18:42:21 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 18:58:48 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host86-134-53-216.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 19:10:54 <Belugas> finally the beast compiles :D 19:11:12 <Noldo> which beast? 19:11:30 <Belugas> the stuff i'm workig on :) 19:11:34 <Belugas> @work... 19:23:02 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-139-63.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:31:13 <yorick> wow...DO NOT EXECUTE THE INSTALLER....(new line)....Execute the installer?....(confirmation buttons: yes/no/cancel) 19:31:37 <yorick> *scrolls right* ...UNLESS YOU TRUST IT 19:42:33 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9C28E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57370.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:47:15 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fd392.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 19:47:22 *** planetmaker_ is now known as pm 19:48:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: richk * r12723 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (53 files in 4 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Sync: with trunk r12645:12656. 19:50:06 <hylje> delicious syncing 19:51:41 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-104-45.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:53:38 <dih> http://pub.dihedral.de/openttd/funny_grf_issue.png 19:54:07 <dih> hylje: you should not eat it... 19:54:19 <peter1138> too many engines 19:54:21 <peter1138> errr 19:54:23 <peter1138> wagons 19:54:30 <SmatZ> ^_^ 19:54:36 <peter1138> the grf says STOP for a reason 19:54:44 <peter1138> (or MORE) 19:54:48 <dih> ah 19:54:50 <dih> funny 19:55:18 <yorick> sync again? 19:55:21 <peter1138> (and yes, it is a 'bug' in dbsetxl) 19:55:37 <dih> i thought that was kinda obvious :-D 19:55:51 <Roest> hi 19:56:30 <Roest> i'd need some help 19:56:31 <yorick> oh noes...roest....it will go in our metals corroding them! 19:56:45 <peter1138> "lololololol" "LOL ROFL LOL ROFL" 19:56:57 <peter1138> you guys have intelligent conversation, i see 19:57:12 <hylje> all the time dear peter 19:57:22 <Roest> i'm trying to bring the bettergraphs up to trunk, last patch is like 10400 19:57:32 <Roest> so some stuff disappeared 19:58:15 <dih> peter1138: no - just funny 19:58:40 <glx> theorically the grf should not allow that kind of train to start 19:59:10 <Belugas> Roest, the stuff might not have dissapeared, but changed placed, most of the time 19:59:13 <peter1138> alas that feature was introduced later, i believe 19:59:54 <Roest> yea i know, i'm down to very few compÃŒile errors 20:00:03 <ln> english only 20:00:12 <yorick> }| 20:00:15 <dih> and no ln 20:00:24 <Roest> cant find anything to fix : const EngineInfo *ei = EngInfo(e); 20:00:28 <hylje> e^x 20:00:57 <peter1138> include engine_func.h, probably 20:01:12 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2F7AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:07 <Roest> thanks, bah the search funktion in eclipse isnt too reliable it seems 20:02:55 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:02:55 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:27 <Roest> ok the bettergrpahs stuff compiles now, now only some strange errors in the original graph code remain, that compile fine alone 20:06:33 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:23:59 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:24:51 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d043883.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:25:20 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 20:34:49 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 20:39:28 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.154.26.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:33 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 20:44:35 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55:26 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-224-076.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:01:44 <Belugas> and here i go back home... 21:01:47 <Belugas> good night all 21:02:31 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d043883.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 21:06:23 <Lakie> Night Belugas. 21:17:51 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:53 *** pm [~chatzilla@Fd392.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Quit: bye!] 21:25:39 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:28:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:30:25 <nicfer> one question, if the ds port of ottd gets multiplayer, it would be compatible with the current servers? 21:30:51 <nicfer> with map sizes 128x64 or inferior 21:30:59 <nicfer> 256x128* 21:31:28 <Digitalfox> nicfer I think so, but I'm not a dev so don't take my word :) 21:31:47 <Lakie> I'd imagine as long as the version is the same and the map size on server are the same, it coult? 21:31:50 <Lakie> could* 21:32:09 <Lakie> But, developers would know more about that. 21:33:30 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DE54.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:15 * Roest bangs head against wall 21:41:12 <dih> night 21:43:18 <peter1138> depends how much is removed for the DS port 21:45:02 <Lakie> I'd imagine both would need to have roughly the same features or atleast the ability to process them even if it doesn't have the interface to call them? 21:45:59 <Lakie> I suppose its not quite like TTDpatch though, so it doesn't need everything as the server should handle most of the processing? 21:47:01 <peter1138> they all need to have exactly the same features 21:47:21 <peter1138> and all machines handle all the processing 21:47:53 <Roest> someone feel like giving me a clue? 21:48:06 <Lakie> Ah, so like TTDpatch they do need the functions for those actions, wouldn't require the interface though, as even if it can't issue that command, it could still process it? 21:48:21 <Lakie> Again, this is based on thoery, and peter will correct me. 21:48:39 <peter1138> yeah, as long as the core is the same, the gui side doesn't matter 21:48:48 <peter1138> Roest: regarding? 21:49:15 <Lakie> nicfer: does that help you? 21:50:01 <Roest> i can give you a diff to see it yourself 21:50:51 <Roest> http://stinfwww.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mai03gex/bettergraphs.patch 21:51:06 <peter1138> you haven't described a problem 21:51:48 <Roest> basically some stuff that compiles fine when just checked out butnow gives error with the patch and some additional includes before 21:52:30 <Roest> some compares between int types it doesnt like 21:54:24 <peter1138> that's like "my email isn't working" 21:54:35 <Roest> lol 21:55:01 <peter1138> what happens? "nothing" 21:55:12 <peter1138> ok, do you get an error message? "yeah" 21:55:15 <Roest> compile errors 21:55:25 <peter1138> what does it say? "don't know, i didn't look" 21:55:32 <Roest> sec 21:55:42 <peter1138> sorry, went off on a customer rant then ;P 21:55:44 <glx> without the actual errors it's hard :) 21:55:54 <Roest> http://paste.openttd.org/2318 21:56:14 <Roest> line 1209 would be line 8 here 21:57:42 <Roest> INVALID_DATAPOINT is defined so: static const int64 INVALID_DATAPOINT = INT64_MAX; 21:59:27 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-135.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:38 * peter1138 knows not, and is going to sleep 22:04:50 * Roest remains clueless 22:06:02 <SmatZ> why don't you define INVALID_DATAPOINT as OverflowSafeInt64 ? 22:06:13 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:31 <SmatZ> night peter1138 22:07:29 <Roest> actually that's not the point, the problem is that is the original code in trunk that compiles fine, just some additional includes and some code before it lead to these errors 22:10:53 <SmatZ> static const OverflowSafeInt64 INVALID_DATAPOINT(INT64_MAX); // Value used for a datapoint that shouldn't be drawn. 22:10:58 <SmatZ> this is the code from trunk 22:11:05 <SmatZ> defined as OverflowSafeInt64 22:11:12 <Roest> ah crap 22:11:28 <nicfer> MMOTTD anyone? 22:11:35 <nicfer> MMO-OTTD 22:11:36 <Patrick`_> nicfer: ooh, yes 22:11:49 <Roest> thanks for the clue i guess 22:11:54 <SmatZ> no problem :) 22:12:01 <Patrick`_> I want an epic mount for my coal 22:12:07 <SmatZ> :-D 22:12:14 <Roest> thing is that patch is so old, the removal line still had it as int64 22:13:51 <Roest> nice two hours wasted on that 22:14:14 <nicfer> why openttd's MP uses client processor cycles for doing networking tasks? 22:14:22 <nicfer> shouldn't the server do that? 22:14:51 <Patrick`_> some things can't be offloaded 22:14:51 <SmatZ> what networking tasks? 22:15:04 <SmatZ> all clients have to compute whole world 22:15:19 <SmatZ> else you would end with very high bandwidth needs 22:15:26 <Patrick`_> otherwise the server would have to send a savegame every tick 22:15:30 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2F7AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:35 <Patrick`_> anywhere up to 100 mbit per client 22:16:15 <nicfer> I heard that the client is like a passive server or something 22:17:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12724 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/ (regression.nut regression.txt): [NoAI] -Fix r12720: also add regression test for new functions 22:20:14 <Roest> wheeeeeee 22:20:49 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:20:57 <nicfer> so, is possible to do instead of a lot of small servers one bigger server where all the players are in? like in a MMORPG 22:21:31 <Patrick`_> hmm 22:21:36 <Patrick`_> the map size is a problem 22:22:04 <SmatZ> everything is possible, but for this, you would need really deep and wide changes into the game code 22:22:10 <Patrick`_> unless you just did 2048x2048 and had a buttload of clients 22:22:25 <Patrick`_> I don't imagine it would take too many changes to make ottd servers mesh like an irc network 22:22:39 <Patrick`_> have one "master" with 8 "intermediates" each of which has 8 clients 22:22:53 <Patrick`_> 64 companies on a max sized densely-industrialised map isn't too much of a headache 22:23:30 <Patrick`_> SmatZ: the problem is that people naturally wantto build lines as long as possible, but you can't combine that with the gigantic map size of an MMO 22:23:33 <Patrick`_> loaded in segments 22:23:44 <SmatZ> Patrick`_: true :-) 22:24:03 <nicfer> SmatZ: like increasing client limit to 60 and max companies to... a quantity limited only by color limit 22:24:32 <Rubidium> nicfer: other limits come before the color limit 22:24:54 <nicfer> this would be better for keeping the servers safe+ 22:25:15 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-104-45.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:25:20 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r12725 /3rdparty/squirrel/include/squirrel.h: [Squirrel] -Fix: another MSVC warning 22:25:51 <nicfer> instead of 60 admin for 60 servers they would be on one server, working by turns 22:26:19 <SmatZ> for really big maps, you couldn't receive information about whole map - only the part you are interested in... you really don't want to download 1GB map and receive 10MB of changes every second 22:26:29 <SmatZ> not talking about random() consistency 22:26:34 <SmatZ> and newgrfs 22:26:45 <nicfer> so always will be there an admin to stop unfair players 22:27:06 <SmatZ> and also, everywhere you suppose you have 32bit tile index 22:27:35 <Ammler> most servers runs without admin 22:27:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12726 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_town.cpp town.h town_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1877]: overflow causing strange building behaviour in towns. 22:28:05 <Patrick`_> SmatZ: yes, but how do you approximate what part of the map you are interested in? 22:28:07 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@users113.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 22:28:14 <Patrick`_> people always build as long a train line as possible 22:28:26 <Patrick`_> I guess you could do trains crossing off the edge of the map 22:28:29 <Patrick`_> into another map 22:28:42 <nicfer> Ammler: yes, and they get screwed up because some lurker enters and destroy everything 22:29:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12727 /branches/noai/ (10 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Fix (API CHANGE): return -1 to indicate invalidity, instead of 0 or -1, depending on the class 22:32:15 <SmatZ> Patrick`_: talk to nicfer, I am not defending his idea at all 22:32:51 <Patrick`_> it's a good idea. I look forward to seeing his patch 22:34:44 *** teeg2 [~jmathias@invader.mindriot.as] has joined #openttd 22:35:00 <Patrick`_> at least a half-assed attempt towards a buggy alpha patch will give people the chance to see it work 22:35:01 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12728 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (12 files): [NoAI] -Codechange: always let functions return Money when they return something that can be quantified as money. 22:35:11 <Patrick`_> fr'ex, I did a 5-line patch once 22:35:14 <teeg2> hrm. I see I forgot to quit my irc client at work :( 22:35:27 <Patrick`_> it's in trunk, and it's blatantly not any of my original stuff 22:35:32 <Patrick`_> but to see the idea in practice 22:35:34 <SmatZ> @seen teeg 22:35:34 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: I have not seen teeg. 22:35:39 <SmatZ> !seen teeg 22:35:44 <Patrick`_> plus it'll all be obsoleted anywa 22:35:51 <SmatZ> teeg2: you don't seem to be active at all here 22:36:48 <teeg2> SmatZ: I didn't say anything the few hours I was at work, I was too busy reading my first thread (and its responses) on the forum. and I was afraid people here would bite if they knew I was the one who started muttering about OO :P 22:37:43 <teeg2> (and tgr is apparently taken/reserved, so I can't really use that nick) 22:38:05 <SmatZ> :) 22:38:17 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r12729 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_engine.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix r12727: one compiler warning (BAD TRUEBRAIN, BAD BAD TRUEBRAIN) 22:38:37 <SmatZ> I guess people here (with few exceptions) are not against OO 22:39:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:43:05 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DE54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:44:05 <teeg2> as long as it's used right, I presume :P 22:44:21 <SmatZ> sure 22:44:31 <SmatZ> not overusing it 22:45:12 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-135.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:46:50 <nicfer> I have a better idea - interserver admins 22:47:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E325.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:10 <nicfer> so an admin from server B can help if server A is being attacked 22:48:51 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-132-058.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:02 <nicfer> other question is replacing ottd's chat with a irc client 22:50:00 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:50:43 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-139-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:45 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [] 22:52:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12730 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/completeness.sh: [NoAI] -Fix: the regression completeness checker did not understand Valuate, thus gave some false positives. 22:52:50 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:40 <nicfer> what do you think about those two ideas? 23:00:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> both sound like total rubbish 23:00:21 <nicfer> instead of a big server, small servers that are interconnected 23:01:11 <nicfer> with an irc client inside ottd it will not be necesary to connect to the server for joining 23:01:28 <nicfer> also you will be able to chat between servers 23:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> it sounds even more rubbish the more you explain 23:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> plus, autopilot already implements an IRC <-> OTTD bridge 23:03:52 <nicfer> but it isn't implemented in all servers 23:04:17 <nicfer> so interchatting would be impossible 23:04:58 <Yexo> nicfer: why would I want to chat with someone on another server? 23:05:49 <nicfer> you can meet people 23:06:02 <Roest> cool 23:07:01 <Yexo> if I want to meet people, I'll go to a cafe or something 23:07:07 <nicfer> that is because MMORPGs are popular 23:07:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r12731 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r12726): copying a 16bit array into 32bit wouldn't work 23:07:24 <nicfer> Massive is the way 23:08:03 <nicfer> also, not every OTTDer lives at the back of your house 23:08:53 <Yexo> When I play multiplayer, I like to chat with the other players about the current game etc, but not with some random other person also playing at that moment 23:09:24 <Roest> that's where the other idea comes in 23:09:29 <Yexo> for all other chats, we already have the #openttd irc channel 23:09:53 <nicfer> not every OTTDer is here 23:10:00 <Yexo> that totally unrealistic idea about the gigantic maps? 23:10:18 <Yexo> no, and not every OTTDer will chat on an ingame chat 23:10:20 <nicfer> also, how do I find a friend mine where is he? 23:10:32 <Roest> cellphone 23:10:32 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:43 <Yexo> mail him, phone him, talk to him to get on irc, go to his house, etc :P 23:11:20 <nicfer> suppose he doesn't have cellphone, mail, he lives far, etc 23:11:35 <Roest> wait, he doesnt have mail but plays online? 23:11:36 <nicfer> or just you don't know him 23:11:45 <nicfer> erm 23:11:46 <Yexo> he can get irc if het can get openttd 23:11:46 <nicfer> it 23:12:00 <Yexo> if you don't know him, don't call it a friend :) 23:12:26 <nicfer> I call friend every one I know in online games 23:12:58 <Yexo> ok, but if they can get openttd to work online, downloading and installing an irc client won't be too difficult for them either 23:13:33 <nicfer> in real life, my friends doesn't play ottd 23:14:07 <glx> introduce them to it, and they will be addicted :) 23:14:38 <Roest> uff 23:19:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-139-63.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:09 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499DE54.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 23:21:14 <teeg2> I would actually prefer it if there wasn't any economy, so I could just concentrate on building. That's enough fun for one day, I don't want to have to fend off people who want to bug me while I'm in the building zone as well. 23:24:51 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:25:41 <Yexo> teeg2: go playing singleplayer :) 23:29:25 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9C28E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41:01 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Sleeping, what an annoying yet necessary waste of time] 23:47:52 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-184-16.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving]