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00:33:43 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76361.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:37:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13062 /trunk/src/transparency_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the TransparencyToolbar. 00:40:44 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74620.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:50 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-105-15.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13063 /trunk/src/transparency_gui.cpp: -Fix(13062): Removal of old handler was not followed by removal in descriptor 00:57:00 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Zzz] 01:03:01 *** izhirahider [~izzy@izhirahider.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13064 /trunk/src/player_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the SelectPlayerFaceWindow. 01:13:20 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-100-170.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:26:50 *** lugo 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the problem :o 07:11:26 <blindcoder> you're using swap 07:11:39 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 07:14:47 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 07:14:47 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17:11 <Ammler> good morning 07:17:21 <Ammler> no openttd process :-) 07:22:48 <peter1138> blindcoder: not much of it 07:31:16 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:34:30 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 07:43:30 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 07:44:05 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:29 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@210.14.100.240] has joined #openttd 07:45:38 *** Gekz [~brendan@210.14.100.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:49:34 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 07:50:29 *** PhoenixII 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Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 08:36:26 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:38:45 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:39:45 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 08:42:39 <ln> http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44650000/jpg/_44650162_tallest_cow282pa.jpg 08:43:03 <peter1138> short person? 08:43:16 <ln> that would be logical 08:47:03 <peter1138> http://gone-hollywood.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/sandrabullokc.jpg 08:47:11 <peter1138> speaking of bullocks... 08:47:19 <peter1138> dunno what pose that is supposed to be but that face is disturbing 08:47:23 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 08:53:24 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:09:11 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:11:22 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 09:11:47 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-210-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:19:37 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973901.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:20:02 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 09:20:02 <Roujin> !logs 09:21:39 <ln> Roujin: bookmarks 09:21:39 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:30 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@e073.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #openttd 09:25:35 <Roujin> i already have enough bookmarks for openttd 09:26:53 <Roujin> homepage, forum, wiki, flyspray, doxygen, pastebin, SVN, mercurial and TTDPatch wiki 09:27:00 <Roujin> in that order :P 09:27:29 <ln> ok, in that case it is certainly ok to spam everyone with two lines every time you want to see the logs. 09:28:04 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@e073.tum.vpn.lrz-muenchen.de] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 09:28:16 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:28:27 <Roujin> i tried to whisper the bot before, but got the wrong one. 09:29:42 <Roujin> plus, your response caused everyone to be spammed with (up to now) 7 additional lines 09:31:22 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:50 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:54 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:32:07 <Rubidium> with the hope that you don't do it again, thus saving lines after 4 of such additional attempts 09:34:03 <Roujin> that is true 09:34:35 <Roujin> i just wonder why there is a bot for that if it is a taboo to use it? :/ 09:35:03 <peter1138> SpComb is a bot! 09:37:36 <Roujin> huh? yes, that's what i said 09:41:10 <shodan> haha 09:41:11 <shodan> whinge 09:41:13 <shodan> :) 09:46:03 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-210-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ...] 09:55:17 *** Slowpoke 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Patch by Cirdan. 10:18:23 * SpComb yawns 10:18:34 <SpComb> don't spam the bot :( 10:19:16 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@210.14.100.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:25:11 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9EA1D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:46 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:35:18 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 10:36:08 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 10:36:16 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:46 <Ammler> [12:04] <peter1138> the window has to be make bigger for each filter that you add <-- means, you have to preload all possibilities? 10:42:54 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:44:29 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:17 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 10:45:24 <peter1138> not necessarily 10:45:38 <peter1138> but if you have a cargo filter and a grf filter... 10:45:44 <peter1138> you'd need two selections 10:45:48 <peter1138> one for cargo and one for grf 10:47:10 <peter1138> hmm 10:47:13 <peter1138> alternatively... 10:48:23 <peter1138> hmm, one drop down list with toggles 10:53:13 <Ammler> hmm, maybe a company dependend patch setting, but that would bump the save format, I fear. 10:53:30 <peter1138> patch setting? what for? 10:54:18 <Ammler> no, sometimes you would need the other vehicels too 10:57:01 <peter1138> i'm failing to understand you 10:57:21 <Ammler> :-) 10:57:41 <Ammler> I thought about that a company needs to decide which Set it would like to use 10:58:02 <peter1138> that's just absurd 10:58:07 <Ammler> indeed 10:59:21 <Ammler> hmm 11:03:29 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:04:25 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:05:16 *** Roest 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joined #openttd 12:55:14 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 12:55:45 <Ammler> well, could be another feature, of course, sorry. :-) 12:59:24 <peter1138> ttdp saves are not officially supported 12:59:25 <peter1138> so good luck 12:59:45 <Ammler> yeah, just realized... 12:59:57 <Ammler> try without assert 13:00:16 <peter1138> it'll just crash instead :p 13:00:26 <Ammler> no 13:00:36 <Ammler> it loads without canada station set 13:00:59 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:52 <Ammler> hehe, also unpaused running :-) 13:02:57 <Ammler> the ttdpatch non-stop behavier didn't convert 13:03:54 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489E173.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:09 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:04:50 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 13:05:29 <Ammler> I guess, it was because of the snow-in-temperate 13:06:11 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:33 <Belugas> don't guess. be sure. dwelve in the dark side of the code 13:06:40 <Ammler> Is it possible to disable assert for a game? (without recompiling) 13:06:53 <glx> no 13:07:13 <Ammler> Belugas: I don't understand the code well enough to see such things... 13:07:32 <Rubidium> Ammler: AFAIK it is impossible to get the non-stop setting from ttdpatch.cfg from a TTDP savegame 13:07:52 <Ammler> Rubidium: but you need to do that from old ottd saves too? 13:08:33 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 13:09:47 * Belugas puts headsets on and fires up NIN's new opus 13:10:04 <Ammler> its specially is much work, because "good" TTDP saves have many WPs because of the old pathfinder :-) 13:10:04 <Rubidium> Ammler: but that setting was stored in the savegame 13:10:47 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 13:10:47 <Ammler> but I am lucky, the map isn't that big. :-) 13:11:09 <Rubidium> but if you can tell me what bit to check specifically it might not be impossible to do 13:11:31 <Ammler> Rubidium: I would say, you could assume, every TTDP save does need converting 13:13:01 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:16:42 *** Gekz [~brendan@pa58-109-171-204.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:28:04 <Belugas> Ammler, question: why woukld you like to load ttdp game in ottd? you do not have ttdp running already? just... finding it a bit strange 13:28:34 <Ammler> of course, it's not important, I just liked to compare some features 13:28:42 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:59 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:29:01 <Ammler> just saw the commit from rubidum with the rivers, so I tried and it worked :-) 13:29:35 *** Disto [~thedisto@lestones.plus.com] has joined #openttd 13:31:14 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:31:19 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 13:40:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13067 /trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the DepotWindow. 13:40:27 * peter1138 ponders downloading the 24bit 96kHz version of that 13:40:28 <Gekz> OOOOOOOOP 13:40:42 <peter1138> 1.2 GB 13:41:11 <Gekz> of what? 13:41:17 <Gekz> NiN? 13:41:18 <Gekz> llol 13:42:25 <peter1138> oolo 13:42:43 <Gekz> o.o 13:42:54 <peter1138> well i have hda audio 13:42:57 <peter1138> so i might as well try it ;) 13:43:04 * peter1138 suspects it will make no different 13:43:46 <Belugas> mp3s are really fine for me :) 13:43:54 <peter1138> -t+ce 13:43:56 <peter1138> *nod* 13:43:59 <peter1138> i'm downloading them too ;) 13:44:05 <Belugas> lol :D 13:44:32 <Gekz> ogg 13:44:34 <Gekz> flac 13:44:35 <Gekz> etc 13:44:54 <peter1138> they have flac 13:44:57 <peter1138> but not ogg 13:45:06 <peter1138> flac and m4a lossless in fact 13:45:09 <Gekz> we are talking about NiN arent we 13:45:11 <Gekz> >_> 13:45:23 <peter1138> yeah... should be noisy anyway ;) 13:45:38 <Gekz> its pretty second rate that album 13:45:44 <peter1138> *shrug* 13:45:47 <Gekz> Echoplex is the only alright song 13:45:49 <peter1138> it's free, so i'm not bothered 13:45:52 <Gekz> has a retarded riff and a half lol 13:46:12 <Gekz> but yet, i put it on repeat 13:46:22 <Gekz> the eery shitness of it keeps me coming back 13:48:59 <Belugas> tracks 8 and 9 are not noisy, as per say. quite the contrary 13:49:05 <Belugas> dream lanscape! 13:49:24 <Gekz> its just retarded 13:49:33 <Gekz> makes you feel like cutting someone 13:49:58 <Belugas> you're too young to understand music 13:50:09 <Belugas> that or you have noe even listened to it 13:50:19 <Gekz> or, I actually have a taste in music 13:50:20 <Belugas> which is a sign of youth either way 13:50:24 <Gekz> not eery ear poop. 13:50:43 <Belugas> bebe veut sa susuce? 13:50:45 <Gekz> and I don't just listen to one or two genres of music 13:51:01 <Belugas> muwhahahaha!@ 13:51:15 <Gekz> >_> 13:51:22 <Gekz> who's the "youth" here? 13:51:40 <Belugas> http://www.last.fm/user/Belugas/ 13:51:53 <Belugas> i think i qualify for a LOT of music style :P 13:52:03 <Gekz> oh dear, you must be a youth 13:52:05 <Gekz> you use the Web 2.0 13:52:48 <Belugas> welll.. thanks :) it's nice been treated as youth when you're 43 :D 13:53:04 <Gekz> oh no 13:53:07 <Gekz> middle-aged rocker 13:53:10 <Gekz> RUN KIDS RUN 13:53:25 <Gekz> oh, it seems you have a weird obsession for NiN 13:53:41 <Gekz> Alice Cooper, you _are_ old :P 13:55:05 <Belugas> no... i've got a wide variety of tastes. and NIN seems to be misunderstood as a great musical composer :P 13:55:06 <peter1138> top artists this week: garbage 13:55:26 <Belugas> yeah... discovering :) 13:55:29 <Belugas> expanding! 13:55:33 <peter1138> nin ghosts was great for background working music, heh 13:55:53 <peter1138> *is 13:56:23 <peter1138> hehe, my compatibility is still super :D 13:56:51 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm208.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 13:57:05 <Belugas> :D 13:58:37 <Belugas> let's run a marathon to put it at 100%!! 14:01:25 *** st6_ [sami@piip.net] has left #openttd [] 14:05:55 <peter1138> so far so good 14:09:27 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:09:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:33 <Gekz> O.o 14:14:42 <bowman> last.fm compatibility fails completely for my user hehe 14:16:46 * Sacro knows last.fm devs 14:17:15 <Gekz> yeye 14:17:17 * bowman too 14:17:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> "Taste-O-Meter: Deine musikalische Ãbereinstimmung mit Belugas ist: Sehr niedrig" 14:17:27 <Sacro> bowman: who do you know? 14:17:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> [very low] 14:17:32 <bowman> skr 14:17:44 <bowman> know of the others by reputation :) 14:18:02 <Sacro> heh 14:18:06 <Sacro> i know Jonty 14:18:12 * Sacro met him a few weekends ago 14:18:16 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause3: ^5! 14:18:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> ? 14:18:36 <bowman> have you seen their ball pit hehe 14:18:39 <Sacro> yeah 14:18:49 <Belugas> Sehr niedrig ??? 14:18:54 <Belugas> ho.. very low 14:18:59 <Belugas> too bad :) 14:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> with orudge it's "very high" ;) 14:19:41 <bowman> too much weird stuff in my scrobbler log 14:19:55 <Sacro> yeah, mine too 14:20:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> Belugas: and you listen to music made by yourself ;) 14:20:53 <Belugas> of course i do :D 14:21:19 <Belugas> what would be the point otherwise ? ;) 14:21:25 <bowman> http://www.last.fm/user/bowman 14:21:34 <Sacro> whoah 14:21:40 <Sacro> tht search engine is pretty awesome 14:21:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... relation to oruge changed to "super" 14:21:55 <Sacro> though it looks like it piggybacks onto google 14:21:55 *** Gekz [~brendan@pa58-109-171-204.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:23:23 <Sacro> http://clusty.com 14:28:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13068 /trunk/src/ (build_vehicle_gui.cpp window_type.h): -Codechange: make a class of the BuildVehicleWindow. 14:30:16 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:47 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:33:41 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973901.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:34 <Belugas> Head Down : goooood noise! 14:41:56 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 14:43:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13069 /trunk/src/ (15 files): -Codechange: it is no longer needed to pass a void *data pointer with the WE_CREATE message because nothing uses it anymore. 14:47:33 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499FC93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:13 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-183-207.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:55:02 <Digitalfox> Good afternoon :) 14:56:06 <Digitalfox> I see many new class's are being created.. What is the main advantage of them vs what the code had before? 14:57:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> less ugly hacks 14:57:58 <Belugas> naaa.... that is just fighting boredom 14:58:55 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13070 /trunk/src/player_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13069): do save before commit... 14:59:22 <Digitalfox> belugas are you bored? Go create some new features so we can spam your inbox with bug reports =0 14:59:54 <Digitalfox> I see eddi, I did try to compare the old code with the new, but wasn't really sure what it did in the end 15:00:03 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13071 /trunk/src/main_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make also a class of the MainWindow. 15:00:23 <Rubidium> Digitalfox: take a look at the WP macro are the related variables 15:00:24 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:42 <Belugas> well... actually, the feature i'm working on takes longuer to be released since somebody always finds new stuff, and so do i :S 15:00:48 <Digitalfox> will do Rubidium :) 15:01:09 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> Belugas: hooray for "new stuff" 15:01:21 <Belugas> Digitalfox, comparing old and new code is a good exercise for getting near insanity! 15:01:37 <Digitalfox> Belugas well I'm trying to leran ;) 15:01:41 <glx> I can't even fully read my diffs :) 15:01:42 <Digitalfox> *learn 15:02:25 <Digitalfox> Belugas but I want to get insane so I'll be early retired with a good penson =0 15:02:33 <Belugas> the best way is to see the code before and the code after... 15:02:37 <Belugas> hehe 15:04:55 <Digitalfox> Anyway got to go.. More 3 hours of Mathematics :p 15:05:06 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-124-139.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:05:11 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-207-002.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:31 <Digitalfox> And then another 3 hours of html and css :( 15:05:58 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:06:14 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 15:06:21 <Digitalfox> I would love to have some equipment like Matrix where you insert a CD and get all the knowledge of that area =0 15:06:25 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 15:07:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> so? build it ;) 15:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> if you build it, he will come :p 15:07:47 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e67.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:08:48 <Digitalfox> Eddi|zuHause3 want to help building that machine? Ww will split 50/50 the profits =0 15:08:57 <Digitalfox> *We 15:09:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... i don't think so... 15:10:41 <Digitalfox> Yeah, I'll ask belugas, he looks like a mad scientist, so maybe he can come with some good ideas on how to build it .. =0 15:11:14 <Digitalfox> Belugas want to earn some money? 15:11:38 <Belugas> if it means more work, no :P 15:12:07 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e67.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 15:12:16 <Digitalfox> Belugas well we could become the next google company if it sells good =0 15:12:21 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:24 *** sunk [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 15:12:53 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:14:26 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:15:07 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 15:16:05 *** sunk [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:16:05 *** sunkan is now known as sunk 15:16:13 <Ammler> is there a global make config file around which I could set -j to a default value? 15:16:20 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:19:53 <Sacro> hmm 15:19:57 <Sacro> Ammler: /etc/makeopts? 15:19:58 <Sacro> d 15:20:28 <Sacro> hmm 15:20:33 <Sacro> i only have /etc/makepkg.conf 15:20:37 <Sacro> but that's distro specific 15:20:41 <Ammler> hmm 15:20:50 <Sacro> can't you set $MAKEOPTS/ 15:20:51 <Sacro> ? 15:20:56 <Sacro> i think that works 15:21:10 <Ammler> an alias make="make -j 6" should work too? 15:21:17 <Sacro> possibly 15:21:19 <Sacro> what distro? 15:21:33 <Sacro> cos that'd cripple gentoo 15:22:04 <Ammler> oh, I certainly do not use gentoo 15:22:08 <Ammler> :-) 15:22:22 <Sacro> haha 15:22:24 <Sacro> debian? 15:22:32 <Ammler> openSUSE 15:22:49 <Sacro> eugh 15:22:51 <Sacro> hate SuSE 15:22:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> i totally saw that coming :p 15:23:03 <Ammler> yeah 15:23:07 <Sacro> too many germans 15:23:17 <Ammler> thats why I use it 15:23:29 <Ammler> ' 15:24:47 *** mynetdude|Away is now known as mynetdude 15:25:54 <Ammler> I tried with alias make --help, seems to work :-) 15:26:25 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm208.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 15:28:36 <Ammler> Sacro: do you use Gentoo? 15:28:36 <peter1138> hmm, winamp won't do 24 bit audio :o 15:28:58 <Sacro> Ammler: god no 15:30:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> peter1138: isn't that just a codec thing? 15:30:34 <Sacro> peter1138: you need a better codec 15:30:37 <Sacro> like err 15:30:40 <Sacro> libmad i think 15:31:46 <peter1138> codec? 15:31:53 <bowman> inputplugin/outputplugin rather 15:32:00 <peter1138> it's a 24bit/96kHz wave file 15:32:28 <bowman> well what do you plan on doing with it hehe 15:32:50 <bowman> typically you'd want to output it untouched digitally 15:33:18 <bowman> avoiding any pc soundhardware and os mixers/audioframeworks 15:36:21 <peter1138> typically i'd want to output it to my speakers 15:36:38 <bowman> probably need to downsample it then 15:37:08 <peter1138> yeah, because 24bit/192kHz hardware support is not enough 15:37:31 <bowman> not when the os mixer uses 48khz :) 15:37:37 <bowman> but thats windows hehe 15:37:45 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499FC93.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 15:39:01 <peter1138> it's set to 24bit/192kHz, so i don't see why the mixer would downsample to 48kHz 15:39:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> peter1138: well, a program that just pipes the unmodified input directly to the output does qualify as a (trivial) codec ;) 15:39:56 <bowman> you can bypass the mixer with kernel streaming plugins, but you lose some features like volume control (and well, mixing) 15:40:16 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:40:17 <bowman> its a different audioframework altogether in vista though 15:40:52 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 15:41:22 <peter1138> well i'm using vista 15:42:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> my condolences 15:42:08 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499FC93.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:37 <peter1138> harr harr 15:42:43 <peter1138> works perfectly well for me 15:42:44 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-210-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:09 <bowman> then you might get it working with the existing plugins, but avoid directsound output since thats entire api is software emulated 15:43:30 <bowman> -s 15:52:01 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 15:53:13 <peter1138> hmm, foobar has '24 bit output' option 15:53:21 <peter1138> but no indication of what's actually happening, heh 15:53:33 <orudge> well, it helps if you have 24-bit input too, of course 15:53:37 <orudge> at least, for it to make any difference p 15:53:39 <orudge> * :P 15:53:47 <peter1138> 16:31 @peter1138> it's a 24bit/96kHz wave file 15:53:54 <bowman> check vistas audio device properties, there are a ton of options there 15:54:09 * orudge can play 24-bit audio with foobar, ffdshow, winamp, etc 15:54:13 <orudge> most of which have a status-type thing somewhere 15:54:32 <peter1138> yeah, winamp says it's outputing at 16bit 15:54:55 <peter1138> foobar's ui sucks 15:55:21 <orudge> I like its UI, it's relatively straightforward and mostly uncluttered 15:56:05 <peter1138> well it's configuration ui i mean 15:56:12 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 15:56:17 <peter1138> ITS 15:56:22 * peter1138 kills self 15:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> be glad, now you have a spare apostrophe that you can gift those who are lacking them 15:59:42 <peter1138> GIVE 16:00:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... "give" does not completely cover what i wanted to say 16:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> the problem is, in german, there is a connection between "das Geschenk" [a gift] and "schenken" [to make a gift] 16:02:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> and it's really weird that this doesn't translate into english 16:02:45 <bowman> donate :) 16:03:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, ther is clearly no etymological relation between "a gift" and "to donate" :p 16:03:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> +e 16:05:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.222.152] has joined #openttd 16:17:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:28:03 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:51 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:30:52 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:48 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e67.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:45:22 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e67.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 16:47:31 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:48:57 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:37 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.209.28] has joined #openttd 17:00:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.222.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:09:14 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:10:14 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Death.] 17:10:14 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 17:17:21 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:20:59 *** niche [~WinNT@p4FD46BA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:22:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:28:01 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host112-175-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:29:03 <Wolf01> hello 17:38:17 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 17:43:06 *** Osai is now known as Osai^Kendo 17:43:55 *** Osai^Kendo is now known as Osai^Kendo`off 17:47:59 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:48:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:58:36 *** Osai^Kendo`off is now known as Osai 18:02:12 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.167.101] has joined #openttd 18:02:52 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.167.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:18 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:55 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:05 *** Smoovious [imp586@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:04 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@85.19.218.28] has joined #openttd 18:36:33 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:48 <bpZero> hello 18:37:04 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:33 <SmatZ> hello 18:37:52 <bpZero> so two trains at a station load at the same time. how do you make one train load and leave before the other train begins loading? 18:39:06 <Belugas> but but but .... 18:39:09 <Belugas> that's not realistic! 18:39:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13072 /trunk/src/engine.cpp: -Fix (r12995): possible out-of-bounds access 18:39:54 <bpZero> what do you mean 18:39:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> bpZero: there's a patch option "improved loading" 18:40:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> (not to confuse with "gradual loading") 18:41:28 <bpZero> Eddi|zuHause3: ah, perfect 18:41:30 <bpZero> thank you 18:45:26 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.167.101] has joined #openttd 18:47:46 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 18:47:59 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 18:48:18 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 19:08:15 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.167.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:47 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-092-072-004-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-179-166.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:26:24 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:59 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:32:15 *** Guest2137 [~lolman@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:58 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:26 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-68-40-40-232.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:08 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:51:56 <ln> http://media.putfile.com/trains-in-China 19:52:38 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:52:50 <hylje> s/China/Far East/ 19:53:03 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:53:43 <ln> how universally understood is this sedish language 19:54:35 <hylje> unbelievably 19:54:45 <Sacro> sedish? 19:54:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B840D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:54 <Sacro> you mean like regexp? 19:54:57 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 19:55:04 <Belugas> dishes? 19:55:47 <NukeBuster> ? 19:56:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B828CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:56:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:59:20 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:56 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 20:01:56 <ln> Sacro: 22:52 < hylje> s/China/Far East/ 20:02:13 <Sacro> ln: que? 20:02:22 <ln> Sacro: sedish 20:02:29 <Sacro> sed-ish? 20:02:43 <ln> positive. 20:03:51 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:15 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:16:11 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: radish 20:16:57 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:57 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:59 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:17:22 <Sacro> anyone here that writes .spec files? 20:23:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-225-220.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:26:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 20:27:00 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13073 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make classes of the NewGRF windows 20:28:30 <Ammler> Sacro: there is one spec file in the openttd repo :-) 20:29:35 <Sacro> trying to go from a spec to a pkgbuild 20:29:47 <Sacro> i'm guessing %build i do 20:29:57 <Sacro> and then %install is done when the package is installed 20:30:41 <Sacro> Ammler: where is said spec file 20:32:04 <Ammler> Sacro: svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk/os/debian 20:32:36 <Ammler> hmm, no :-) 20:33:09 <Sacro> os/rpm 20:33:12 <Ammler> yes 20:33:32 <Sacro> actually, this rpm doesn't use gacutil 20:33:56 <Sacro> what is $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_prefix} 20:34:06 <Ammler> but you know now, who can write those :-) 20:34:36 <Sacro> yes, that's why i love Arch 20:35:48 <Ammler> I use kdesvn... 20:36:05 <Sacro> point being? 20:36:12 <Ammler> yes :-) 20:38:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have a point 20:38:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> · 20:39:39 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13074 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: For multiheaded engines, halve power and running cost when used instead of when loading, to allow callback values to work properly. 20:40:31 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 20:42:42 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:54:05 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-42-221-117.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:17 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:55:04 <ln> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.security.announce/1614 20:57:23 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:33 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:05:47 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 21:06:19 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:43 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 21:08:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 21:08:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:23 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:09:39 <Sacro> O(2^n) is crap efficiency, yes? 21:10:19 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Quit: switching to colloquy] 21:10:41 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13075 /trunk/src/widgets/dropdown.cpp: -Codechange: Allow any value for a dropdown item instead of just positive. 21:12:02 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [] 21:12:17 *** egladil [~egladil@goth-gbg-109-143-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 21:14:57 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:15:30 <Sacro> O(2^n), O(n^2), O(n log n), O(log n), O(n) 21:15:33 <Sacro> is that most to least inefficient? 21:15:47 *** Great_Briton [~Great@dyn-62-56-62-224.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:16:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13076 /trunk/src/autoreplace_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2012]: the wrong autoreplace window would be shown if the vehicle isn't a train. 21:16:53 <Rubidium> Sacro: generally yes 21:17:07 <Sacro> Rubidium: yes, I know for end cases, like where N=0 21:17:18 <Rubidium> though O(n!), O(2^n) ..., O(n), O(1) 21:17:39 <Sacro> that looks fine? 21:17:55 <Tefad> nlogn logn 21:18:15 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.167.101] has joined #openttd 21:18:21 <Rubidium> oh, O(n log n), O(n), O(log n) though (not Sacro's order) 21:18:21 <Dominik> O(n) ⬠O(log n) 21:18:37 <Dominik> err, other way round ^^ 21:18:51 *** sickie88 [~sickie@89.143.167.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:06 <Sacro> Rubidium: really? 21:19:14 <Sacro> oh yes, I suppose log n is less than n 21:23:24 * Sacro doesn't quite get quadratic probing 21:23:42 <Wolf01> 'night 21:23:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host112-175-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:27:17 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:27:25 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee38.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:54 <ln> which motion picture begins with the words "i love america"? 21:29:09 <Tefad> a horrible one 21:30:14 *** niche [~WinNT@p4FD46BA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: 0o] 21:32:06 <ln> not at all. 21:33:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 21:36:26 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13077 /trunk/src/ (engine.cpp engine_func.h openttd.cpp): -Codechange: move function that updates cached num_engines to engine.cpp, make it run only 1 loop 21:38:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:39:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:09 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:21 <ln> another guess? 21:50:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13078 /trunk/src/group_gui.cpp: -Fix: group gui used the vehicle type before it was actually set. 21:55:38 <Sacro> sigh 21:55:44 <Sacro> i don't get reverse polish notation 21:57:17 <Sacro> a + b - c * (d + e) / f 21:57:38 <Sacro> d e + f / c * b - a + 21:57:39 <Sacro> ? 21:57:57 <Sacro> no.... 21:58:05 <Sacro> left of brackets stays to left 21:58:57 <Rubidium> a b + d e + c * f / - 21:59:41 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Quit: Getting off stoned server - dircproxy 1.0.5] 22:00:07 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:02:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13079 /trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp: -Fix: certain compilers give false warning about uninitialized variable 22:02:49 <Sacro> Rubidium: how did you do that? 22:03:39 <Rubidium> hmm, actually I should've written a b + c d e + f / * - 22:04:27 <Sacro> i'm reading the shunting yard algorithm 22:04:31 <Sacro> but id on't follow it 22:04:33 <Rubidium> anyhow, just write down how you have to solve the formula 22:05:20 <peter1138> hanoi? heh 22:05:49 <Rubidium> Sacro: easiest way is writing the formula as a tree 22:05:51 <peter1138> a + b - c * (d + e) / f == a b + c d e + * f / - 22:06:14 <Rubidium> a/+\b etc. 22:06:32 *** lugo [lugo@p4FD85173.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:41 <Rubidium> then go over it in post-order (IIRC) and write every node down 22:07:08 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 22:07:34 <Sacro> Rubidium: as a tree? 22:08:31 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:36 <Sacro> grrr 22:14:19 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 22:16:07 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 22:16:54 <Sacro> i can get abcde+*f/-+ 22:17:01 <Sacro> but that isn't what anyone else has said? 22:19:26 <peter1138> should be the same 22:19:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13080 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Fix: warning about unused variable when compiling without asserts 22:21:22 <peter1138> :o 22:21:26 <peter1138> mine is clearly wrong 22:21:32 *** Dominik [~Dominik@dslb-092-072-004-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22:22 <peter1138> install 'dc' 22:22:32 <peter1138> 1 2 3 4 5 + * 6 / - + p 22:22:32 <peter1138> -1 22:22:38 <Sacro> right 22:23:01 <Sacro> ab+cde+*f/- 22:23:28 <Sacro> that's damned complex 22:24:03 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499FC93.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 22:24:22 <peter1138> sort of like (ab+)((c(de+)*)f/)- 22:24:32 <Sacro> yeah, i get it 22:24:47 <peter1138> mine is right, i had just on the stack :o 22:25:34 <peter1138> but there are indeed multiple answers 22:25:41 <peter1138> ooh, electrickery flickery :o 22:26:04 <Sacro> oh god, got variables to substitute now 22:26:05 <Rubidium> Sacro: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation#Converting_from_infix_notation <- that was what I was talking about 22:26:09 <Sacro> i wonder if my calculator does it 22:26:19 <Sacro> Rubidium: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunting_yard_algorithm ;) 22:27:54 <Sacro> peter1138: actually, the brackets help an awful lot 22:27:57 <Sacro> thanks :) 22:30:39 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 22:32:33 <Sacro> think i'm getting it now 22:35:03 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:38:43 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 22:38:43 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 22:38:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Sacro> O(2^n) is crap efficiency, yes? <- depends on what kind of algorithm you have... 22:39:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have seen algorithms that have an EXPSPACE lower bound :p 22:40:11 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 22:42:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13081 /trunk/src/win32.cpp: -Fix: Empty while-loop warnings from gcc 4.3+ 22:43:39 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: we aren't given an algorithm 22:43:42 <Sacro> just it's efficiency 22:44:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> EXPSPACE is way worse than EXPTIME 22:44:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> but then there's still EXPEXPTIME :p 22:45:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> complexity classes are independent of implementation 22:45:32 <Rubidium> forkbombs ;) 22:46:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> they say no implementation can ever be significantly faster than that 22:46:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> recursion theory is so funny ;) 22:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> growth functions and all 22:47:53 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-173-220.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> if you have algorithms in EXPSPACE dimensions, the whole P=NP issue is like peanuts :) 22:53:34 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-130-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:54:03 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 22:55:14 *** Touqen_ [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:57:04 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:14 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-134-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:59:04 *** Touqen_ is now known as Touqen 23:00:18 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:56 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-173-220.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:24 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:07:15 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:13:46 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:13:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:20:28 *** Great_Briton` [~Great@dyn-62-56-110-125.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:26:31 *** Great_Briton [~Great@dyn-62-56-62-224.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:01 *** mynetdude is now known as mynetdude|Away 23:49:30 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 23:54:01 *** Great_Briton` [~Great@dyn-62-56-110-125.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:00 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-42-221-117.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:23 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-42-221-117.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd