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00:07:47 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 00:09:55 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has joined #openttd 00:13:37 *** JD__ [~chatzilla@R373a.r.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 00:14:15 *** JD__ is now known as Guest1525 00:15:37 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 00:15:56 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7A184.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-213-223.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:17:25 <Guest1525> hi there - i got some questions about newgrfs... 00:17:27 <Guest1525> * when using "Generic Road Vehicle Set" - does "Generic Tram Set" add more trams or does it replace the ones from GRVS? 00:17:28 <Guest1525> * would you recommend "Planeset 1.5.3" or "Aviators Aircraft Set (av8) v1.331"? 00:17:30 <Guest1525> * i will give "ttrs3w.GRF" a try; moreover i use "debugw.grf" and "smoothsnoww.grf" - any other 'must-haves'? 00:17:31 <Guest1525> thanks for any reaction. 00:18:51 <glx> trams replaces some road vehicles, but trunk has a feature allowing more engines 00:20:03 <Guest1525> i'm playing OTTD 0.6.0 - so would you prefer GRVS or the addition or GTS? 00:32:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:17 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B760BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:36:35 *** Guest1525 [~chatzilla@R373a.r.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.12/2007050813]] 00:40:14 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7499F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:43:58 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:48:07 *** Grek [5ae7bc9e@67.207.141.120] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 00:52:44 *** 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Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-122-239.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 06:19:50 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 06:20:20 <LordAzamath> hey 06:20:31 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:25:52 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:48 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has joined #openttd 06:32:31 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489CB51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:39:43 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B9E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:59 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fcf87.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 06:50:00 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fcf87.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [] 06:56:11 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fcf87.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 07:01:07 *** planetmaker_ [~chatzilla@Fcf87.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Quit: Good bye!] 07:18:16 *** thgergo 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[~chatzilla@88-196-103-201-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 08:15:21 <Draakon> hello 08:18:53 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:21:31 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Quit: ì ìŽë§ ê°ëë€.] 08:22:25 <Rubidium> hmm, dlunch's Korean? 08:23:11 <Draakon> SHHH!! don't say that in front of public! :P 08:23:57 <Prof_Frink> More importantly, those glyphs didn't appear as "????" which would mean that UTF8 is working! 08:24:22 <Draakon> but i see ??? 08:24:41 <Rubidium> poor Draakon 08:24:47 <Draakon> lol 08:25:03 <hylje> this is why we have unicode :> 08:31:40 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 08:32:38 <Rubidium> ïœïœïœïœïœïœ ïœïœïœïœïœïœ ïœïœ ïœïœ ïœïœïœïœ  ïœïœïœïœïœ 08:33:42 <Draakon> i can read perfectly fine, i just dont need no x language stuff on my computer 08:34:00 <Rubidium> oh, you can read that? 08:34:55 <Draakon> yours or his? 08:35:03 <Rubidium> mine 08:35:37 <Draakon> then yes 08:35:41 <peter1138> we 'dont need no' education 08:36:06 <Rubidium> sounds Pink Floyd-ish 08:36:18 <Rubidium> Draakon: but that's x language stuff too 08:36:31 <Rubidium> Romaji to be precise, which is Japanese 08:36:32 <peter1138> # we don't need any double negatives 08:36:55 <peter1138> the quit message didn't show for me either 08:37:00 <Draakon> you are talking in english, he or she in another language 08:37:05 <peter1138> i saw six squares. 08:37:20 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 08:37:28 <Rubidium> peter1138: use a proper font ;) 08:38:00 <LordAzamath> woohooo, I succeeded :) But I won't tell you in what :P 08:38:04 <peter1138> nah, i'm using putty in windows 08:40:20 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 08:40:47 <Draakon> LordAzamath: connecting? 08:50:20 <LordAzamath> nope 08:50:58 *** LordAzamath is now known as LA[lord] 08:51:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13154 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a window class of the news message history window. 08:53:09 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-201-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53:56 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-107-142-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 08:54:25 <Draakon> stupid electric company 08:55:03 <murr4y> yeah, wish they all went away 08:55:09 <murr4y> so we don't have to bother with power 08:55:36 <Draakon> they are just lazy to change the stupid wires 09:01:29 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 09:09:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:09:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:10:35 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 09:31:10 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:32:11 <yorick> double-click server list server > join server? 09:35:49 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:40:00 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-107-142-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Gotta go, cya] 09:40:03 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13155 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a window class of the company league and graph legenda windows. 09:43:19 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:47:06 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 09:48:34 *** JD__ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:50 <JD__> hi there! 09:49:02 <yorick> hi!! 09:49:05 *** JD__ is now known as Guest1580 09:49:23 *** Guest1580 is now known as JD___ 09:53:46 *** jni_ [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 09:55:19 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:55 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 10:05:19 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:10:58 *** jni_ [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:20 <JD___> i was using TTDPatch until two years ago and now i'm coming to TTDX and trying OpenTTD (0.6.0). so i got some newbie questions... :) 10:13:21 <JD___> i want to use "Aviators Aircraft Set v1.331.grf", "Generic Road Vehicle and Tram Set.grf", "New Ships.grf", "New Stations v0.44.grf", "Total town replacement set v3.02a.GRF", "UK Renewal Set v3.04.grf" (+add-on), moreover "debug.grf" and "smooth snow.grf". 10:13:23 <JD___> 1. are there any more recommendations or "must-haves" i missed out? 10:13:24 <JD___> 2. or are there any concerns about my choice? 10:13:26 <JD___> 3. what about these "32bpp tars"? should i use (some of) them? is the quality in-game much better? 10:13:28 <JD___> 4. when playing multiplayer - what happens to my firm and vehicles when i quit and want to join later again? 10:13:29 <JD___> sorry for bothering. :) 10:17:05 <Ammler> JD___: that's a good start :-) 10:17:10 <Vikthor> JD___: 1. and 2. I don't what should debug.grf do, apart from taht i think it's OK 10:17:38 <Ammler> debug.grf does fix some TTO glitches, usefull grf. 10:18:06 <JD___> thanks for feedback. :D 10:18:19 <yorick> 4. your company stays, and so do your vehicles, unless autocleared, or bankrupt 10:18:46 <Vikthor> 3. Problem is 32bpp has graphics only for some parts of the original set, so you would get combined 32bpp and 8bpp graphics 10:19:05 <Vikthor> that could look a bit strange 10:19:33 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:20:14 <JD___> yorick: are the vehicles stopped then? do they keep moving? what about vehicles that need to a replacement? ... all in all: the game keeps going on without me? 10:20:40 <Vikthor> JD___: that depends on the server settings 10:21:04 <Vikthor> you can set server to automatically pause if there is less than x players 10:21:28 <yorick> JD__, the vehicles are only stopped if the game is paused 10:22:01 <yorick> the game just goes on if there are other players, or the autopause is off 10:22:09 <Vikthor> of course, if there is enough players game continues, but you can set automatic renewal of your vehicles 10:23:55 <Ammler> and after some years, depense on server settings, your company pw could be reseted and later your company will be deleted if nobody else took it over... 10:23:57 <JD___> Vikthor: @3 - ah, okay. so i could replace the toolbar (http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Image:Toolbar3.png) and then leave the rest in 8bpp!? 10:23:59 <JD___> @4 - thanks. 10:24:58 <JD___> yorick / Ammler: thanks. 10:25:03 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@194.143.134.103] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 10:25:10 <Vikthor> JD___: Yeah, I think if you only use tar with toolbar everything else stays in 8bpp 10:26:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:38:29 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 10:44:57 *** Albert1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:44:58 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:24 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:10 *** Albert1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 11:08:57 *** LA[lord] [~chatzilla@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:16 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-190-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:11:06 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-133-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:08 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 11:11:16 <dragonhorseboy> just asking but anyone here do simsig? ^-^ 11:12:44 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 11:13:50 <JD___> just started OTTD the first time and configuring the newgrfs... what the hell is "generictrams"? is this coming with OTTD per default? do i have to activate this when using "Generic Road Vehicle and Tram Set.grf"? 11:14:43 <Ammler> thats the tram part from your set 11:15:20 <JD___> from GRVTS? 11:15:49 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:15:50 <JD___> just checked: no, it's in OTTD. 11:15:56 <Ammler> OTTD doesn't have trams, so it has included that 11:16:29 <JD___> okay - and now when using GRVTS there is no need of generictrams.grf any more!? 11:16:47 <Ammler> iirc not, but not sure :-) 11:17:14 <JD___> :) 11:19:46 <Ammler> generic rv set is "only" replacement of default rv set 11:20:47 <Ammler> with new articulated feature in it... 11:21:47 <Ammler> there are also some "real" tram sets like dutch trams or uk or the best tramset: Hiroshima 11:22:04 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 11:22:07 <Ammler> :-) best and oldest 11:24:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13156 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make classes of the GraphWindows. 11:25:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13157 /branches/noai/src/thread_pthread.cpp: 11:25:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Fix: in general it is considered VERY VERY VERY REALLY REALLY bad to delete a class instance from a function inside that class itself. 11:25:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: His surrounding is never informed of this 'action', and they all of a sudden have an invalid pointer, causing all kinds of cool and magic effects (read: random crashes all over the place). 11:25:26 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: It might be a REALLY good idea to leave cleaning up of a class instances to the creator of that instance. 11:25:27 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: If you want to cleanup the saveload thread, make a garbage collector. More things use threads (like fibers). Deleting a class like this is bad, worse, worst!!!! !! !!! !!!!! and should be avoided AT ALL COSTS! 11:26:12 <SpComb> delete this; 11:34:07 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 11:36:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> someone sounds quite upset there :p 11:37:49 <DaleStan> <SpComb> delete this; <-- That actually appears in some library code I've used. 11:39:36 <yorick> someone found another way of communicating to this channel without using DorpsGek or being here 11:46:42 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-155-109-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 11:52:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81FEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:53:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:53:51 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:54 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13158 /trunk/src/settings_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make a class of the GameOptionsWindow. 12:20:46 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:26:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13159 /trunk/src/bridge_gui.cpp: -Feature: Add the ability to sort availible bridges in the build bridge GUI 12:30:54 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:54 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:51 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has left #openttd [] 12:40:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13160 /trunk/src/ (9 files): -Codechange: prepare GUIPlaceProcDragXY for the removal of WindowEvent. 12:45:34 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 12:47:20 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13161 /trunk/src/blitter/factory.hpp: -Fix: free the blitter list when the last blitter is removed. 12:59:34 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:11:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host250-234-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:11:37 <Wolf01> hello 13:14:14 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:21:56 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.12/2007050813]] 13:25:45 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-122-239.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:52 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-118-206.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 13:26:39 <Ammler> [15:22] <Ammler> not able to build trees with current trunk 13:26:55 <Ammler> but the new bridge gui is nice :-) 13:27:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> no trees, that ought to be funny for some players :p 13:28:18 <Ammler> trees are there 13:28:25 <Ammler> but you can't plant them self 13:28:34 <glx> hmm trees used to work 13:29:01 * SmatZ doesn't remember planting trees ever worked ;) 13:29:29 <glx> Ammler: what is current trunk for you? 13:29:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i know what you mean, i meant not being able to push your rating, and only discovering that when you really need it :p 13:29:38 <Ammler> 13160 13:30:14 <SmatZ> hmm doesn't work 13:30:27 <glx> I suspect r13160 13:30:42 <Ammler> you do right glx :-) 13:31:20 <glx> but I try r13159 to be sure ;) 13:31:42 <Ammler> ah 13:31:56 <Ammler> I didn't try older revs 13:31:58 <glx> ok confirmed 13:32:11 <glx> r13160 broke it 13:33:58 <Gekz> spank the revision 13:35:33 <Wolf01> how do the "build while in pause" cheat work? I found only 3 occurrencies of _cheats.build_in_pause.value, I'm trying to make it work in editor 13:37:10 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause3: I suggested a patch, where you everything you build depense on town raiting 13:37:26 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 13:37:34 <Ammler> -you 13:57:08 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:58:13 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-190-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 14:05:04 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13162 /trunk/src/tree_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13160): trees couldn't be planted, correct function wasn't overloaded 14:05:05 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:06:36 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [] 14:06:49 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:08:43 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:12:28 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13163 /trunk/src/tree_gui.cpp: -Codechange: remove unused code 14:17:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB46.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:49 <yorick> LordAzamath, make me notice you before :) 14:25:22 <LordAzamath> nope 14:25:47 <LordAzamath> you know you just crahsed one game I had in full screen? 14:29:26 <LordAzamath> hmm. I've got an idea.. I'll go and pwn some random multiplayer game :) 14:33:54 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 14:40:46 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81FEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:45:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8193A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:45:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:46:30 <Ammler> just wondering, could the problem of the missing libexpat.so.0 be fixed in ottd code? 14:46:52 <Ammler> thought is only a suse problem, but Ubuntu users have that too 14:46:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's not in the code 14:47:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's a linker option 14:47:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> it will solve itself when you compile on your own 14:47:25 <Ammler> I know 14:47:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> i.e. it must be "fixed" in the compilefarm 14:47:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> not in the code 14:48:03 <Ammler> can't you compile ottd, so it would find the one which is around? 14:48:36 <LordAzamath> Ammler: I had the problem yesterday too... And then I installed libexpat :P 14:48:47 <Ammler> :-) 14:48:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> LordAzamath: no, the problem is different 14:49:00 <Ammler> LordAzamath: you don't need, you could just symlink the new 14:49:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> LordAzamath: most modern distributions have libexpat.so.1 installed 14:49:23 <LordAzamath> yes 14:49:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> but the compilefarm links to libexpat.so.0 14:49:41 <LordAzamath> ok 14:49:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> which it will not find 14:49:58 <LordAzamath> anyway, I'm off now.. bye 14:50:11 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 14:51:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> Ammler: openttd does not depend on expat anyway, fontconfig does, i think 15:02:07 <Touqen> My mother was a chinese trapeze artist. 15:02:20 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:02:36 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:03:43 *** yorick is now known as questionmark 15:04:53 *** questionmark is now known as Yorick 15:06:03 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has quit [] 15:29:11 *** lolman [John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:37:32 *** markmc [~me@h173n1fls304o1036.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:51:03 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-076.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:52:17 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm32.epsilon125.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:56:15 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:01:20 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.0.42.75] has joined #openttd 16:03:05 *** ooo4tom [~Tom@92.0.42.75] has left #openttd [] 16:03:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> "350 Sextillionen" <- how is that number called in "short scale"? [it's supposed to be the amount of IPv6 addresses] 16:04:11 <Prof_Frink> One Short Fuckton. 16:09:47 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E749.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 16:09:55 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:11:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-183-78.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:14:02 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:18:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.170.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:54 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:51:12 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13164 /branches/noai/projects/ (openttd_vs90.vcproj openttd_vs90.vcproj.in): [NoAI] -Fix: compilation was not possible with MSVC90 (missing include dir) 16:51:57 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13165 /trunk/src/ (16 files): -Codechange: replace some RebuildXXXList/ResortXXXList+InvalidateWindowXXX with InvalidateWindowXXXData. 16:57:13 *** lolman [John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:56 *** Lev [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06:02 <Touqen> I think it's CAWFEE TIEM! 17:08:38 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 17:15:52 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:19:09 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:12 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 17:30:44 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:31 *** lolman [John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:37:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13166 /trunk/src/ (road_cmd.cpp settings_gui.cpp): -Codechange: CmdSetRoadDriveSide belongs in road_cmd.cpp, not settings_gui.cpp. 17:41:19 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 17:43:58 <JD___> hi there! 17:44:00 <JD___> where the heck can i change the folder where for "openttd.cfg", the save games,...? it automatically created a folder in "my files". 17:44:08 <JD___> btw: OTTD 0.6.0 17:44:20 <Yorick> unless you create it in the openttd directory 17:44:51 <Rubidium> JD___: read readme.tex 17:45:24 <Rubidium> *txt ;) 17:45:46 <Yorick> Rubidium, let the install script copy the scripts directory over aswell ;) 17:45:58 <JD___> ah, damnit - i missed the readme.txt in den openttd folder out. sorry. i've been reading so much about the patches i can't remember where i have to get a glance at in future. ;P 17:46:02 <JD___> thanks. 17:48:43 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E749.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:55 *** lolman_ [~John@82.132.136.203] has joined #openttd 17:50:54 *** lolman is now known as Guest1627 17:50:54 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 17:51:32 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm32.epsilon125.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 17:55:33 *** Guest1627 [John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:02:24 <JD___> one more question: i can't find any info about the last option window before creating a world... 18:02:25 <JD___> * world size? (what is recommended? what's the size in original TTD? how good must a pc be for which size?) 18:02:27 <JD___> * random start number? (meaning?) 18:02:28 <JD___> * "terragenesis"? (difference to original?) 18:02:30 <JD___> * "improved tree algorythm"? (ehmm...!?) 18:02:31 <JD___> * smoothness? (i have no clue...) 18:02:33 <JD___> would be great to get some info. 18:03:09 <glx> ttd size is 256*256 18:04:53 <Progman> JD___: these settings are for the map generator, how the map looks like 18:05:35 <peter1138> world size is a choice, not a recommendation, heh 18:05:54 <JD___> glx: thanks; Progman: i thought so. - but i got some questions about these settings... ;) 18:06:13 <Progman> test them 18:06:18 <Progman> its the easiest way 18:06:30 <Progman> or use dict.leo.org ;) 18:06:31 <JD___> peter1138: :P 18:07:22 <JD___> Progman: dict.leo.org doesn't help me out... i'm german and playing in german... the english here is just for communication. 18:07:45 <Progman> then just test the settings 18:07:46 <Rubidium> random seed -> each random seed generates a specific map (depending on other settings to). You can use this to regenerate a map or get a default (the same) test map for something 18:07:53 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:58 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:08:20 <Rubidium> terragenesis -> more randomish landscape instead of the blocky TTD (original) map generator 18:08:44 <Rubidium> improved trees is about placing trees closer together so you get forests or so (IIRC) 18:09:11 <peter1138> i prefer original for arctic/desert maps 18:09:12 <Yorick> at least, the plan on it was 18:09:33 <Yorick> and the tree growth should be disabled if tree algorithm is set to none 18:09:43 <Yorick> and also in scenarios 18:10:01 <Yorick> because you might want to keep natural forests there without turning everything into forest 18:10:32 <Rubidium> smoothness -> look it up in the dictionary 18:10:53 <Rubidium> it's just how smooth/not spicky the map becomes 18:10:54 <Yorick> @dict Smoothness 18:11:19 <Rubidium> Yorick: that'd break industries 18:11:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> JD___: smoothness defines how steep the hills are, with low settings, you rarely get two slopes next to each other, almost always flat territories inbetween 18:11:33 <JD___> Rubidium: it's "weichheit" in german; i know what it means. 18:11:37 <JD___> Eddi|zuHause3: deutsch= 18:11:39 <JD___> ? 18:11:55 <Yorick> Rubidium, yes, it also will if no trees are set to grow 18:12:05 <Yorick> at least, it will partially 18:12:07 <JD___> Eddi|zuHause3: sprichst du deutsch? 18:12:14 <Yorick> yes, he does 18:12:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> not in this channel. 18:12:21 <Yorick> but this channel is ENglish only 18:12:37 <JD___> private? 18:12:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> i suggest you try different settings, and look if you like the result 18:12:52 <JD___> okay then. 18:12:54 <Yorick> why would you want to ask Eddi 18:13:06 <Yorick> have a problem with english? 18:13:06 <JD___> Rubidium and all the others: thanks. 18:13:13 <Yorick> np 18:13:15 *** Grek [~e.kantis@c83-252-194-35.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 18:13:38 <JD___> Yorick: it's much easier in german for me while i'm trying my best in english. 18:14:21 <Yorick> hmm....should have paid more attention at school ^^? 18:21:11 *** lolman [~John@82.132.136.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:34 <Ammler> [20:09] <Yorick> and the tree growth should be disabled if tree algorithm is set to none <-- how long is that in trunk? 18:21:45 <Ammler> is it a patch option? 18:23:29 <Rubidium> Ammler: you should enable the "read what it says instead of read what I think it says" patch option of yourself ;) 18:26:22 <Ammler> but that is not that long in trunk, is it? 18:26:54 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:01 <Rubidium> Ammler: what? 18:27:23 <Ammler> the "no growing trees" patch 18:27:36 <Rubidium> there is no "no growing trees" patch in trunk 18:28:04 <Ammler> well, how do you call it? :-) 18:28:07 <Rubidium> who actually said it was in trunk? 18:28:48 <Rubidium> there's only something that disables making trees in the landscape generator, but that's there for ages (i.e. 2 years) 18:29:27 <Ammler> but you won't have trees on a running game too 18:29:43 <Rubidium> no... it'll build trees like it always did 18:30:06 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2F8E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:30:49 <Rubidium> but please tell me who told you that 18:30:56 <Ammler> well, then I am just confused 18:31:25 <Ammler> I quoted Yorick 18:31:35 <Yorick> heh 18:32:00 <Yorick> no, you didn't 18:32:06 <Yorick> I never said that 18:32:15 <Ammler> [20:21] <Ammler> [20:09] <Yorick> and the tree growth should be disabled if tree algorithm is set to none 18:32:23 <Yorick> yes, it should 18:32:28 <Yorick> should become 18:32:37 <Yorick> should be made like that 18:32:46 <Rubidium> and where does it say that in-game tree growth gets disabled when the tree algorithm is set to none? 18:32:57 <Ammler> I have a ottd running with fast forward and no trees yet 18:32:59 <Yorick> should != does 18:33:05 <Ammler> about 50 years 18:33:45 <Ammler> well, there are some, but really partial 18:34:08 <Ammler> usually, you have the map filled after some years 18:35:18 <Yorick> because fields already having trees just seed 18:35:35 <planetmaker> hm... there's a patch by Frostregen which allows to disable trees growing via a patch setting. To me it looked pretty clean and small... 18:35:42 <Yorick> yes 18:35:49 <Yorick> but it's actually a hack 18:35:56 <Yorick> just disabling the whole tree loop 18:36:07 <Ammler> planetmaker: I thought that setting makes that patch obsolete 18:36:18 <Yorick> it doesnt 18:36:28 <planetmaker> Yes, I saw that. But what's the point to use the tree loop, if you don't want them? 18:36:33 <Yorick> Ammler, now try putting a tree manually somewhere 18:36:43 <Ammler> I did, that works 18:36:57 <Yorick> yes, now run fast-forwarded and observe the place 18:37:01 <planetmaker> To me it seems fair to call the loop only when trees are supposed to show. 18:37:14 <Ammler> Yorick: I am reaching almost 100 years now :-) 18:37:21 <Yorick> yes, but growing already existing trees 18:38:09 <Ammler> Yorick: how it that setting called in the cfg? 18:38:21 <Yorick> what setting? 18:38:29 <Ammler> tree_placer ? 18:38:47 <Yorick> tree_growth_algorithm? 18:38:56 <Yorick> just search for tree 18:39:13 <Ammler> I do not have that in my cfg 18:39:22 <Ammler> I guess, it's the placer 18:39:55 <Yorick> search for "tree_*" 18:40:13 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:13 <planetmaker> tree_placer = 2 in my config 18:40:23 <Yorick> ok 18:40:36 <Ammler> yes, that's the only one in a *clean* cfg 18:41:19 <Ammler> (I have many others from Frostregen and other patches :-) 18:41:21 <Yorick> ok 18:41:24 <planetmaker> hehe. In my there's meanwhile also a "disable_tree_growth=false" line 18:42:36 <planetmaker> Yorick: so your statement was to use tree_placer=0 on a running game and trees should stop to appear? 18:43:47 <Yorick> I'd like to have it that way, yes 18:43:55 <Yorick> but for now, they don't 18:44:52 <Rubidium> yes, his statement was: use tree_placer=0 to make one industry completely pointless. 18:46:12 <planetmaker> oh, it affects the woods industry, too? 18:47:31 <Yorick> no 18:47:51 <Rubidium> it affects wood production in desert 18:47:59 <Rubidium> (or rather rainforest) 18:48:20 <Yorick> yes 18:48:28 <Yorick> and other newindustries thing 18:49:16 <planetmaker> oh. But on the same time it affects the growth speed or pattern of normal trees? 18:49:49 <Yorick> no, it doesn't right now 18:50:00 <Yorick> my proposal is to make it 18:54:36 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe4dde00-190.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:55:04 <planetmaker> hm... but then I'd like to agree that it's bad, if it also affects industries. 18:55:50 <Ammler> well, it only does affect indirect 18:56:12 <Ammler> because there are no trees, the lumber mill can't produce 18:56:35 <Ammler> but you would still be albe to plant them self... 18:56:40 <Ammler> and theny they grow self 18:56:55 <Ammler> like it is, now, imo :-) 18:57:00 <planetmaker> yea, well. But that's a quite direct effect on the industries, obliterating one primary 18:57:31 <planetmaker> Or is it just no wood as industry type would appear? 18:57:33 <Ammler> I think, we can trash the patch of frostregen 18:57:59 <Ammler> and create the map with tree_placer=0 18:58:30 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:49 <Yorick> no, it doesn't work 18:58:54 <Yorick> trees will appear 18:59:07 <Ammler> but rare 18:59:08 <Yorick> just slower 18:59:21 <Yorick> when some appear, the speed increases 18:59:59 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe4dde00-190.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:01:20 <Ammler> there should be a rule like we have in real :-) 19:01:48 <planetmaker> Trees here grow by now rule. How do they near your place, Ammler? 19:01:49 <Ammler> if you plant one tree, you have to fell one 19:02:02 <Ammler> or opposite 19:02:36 <Ammler> there are some places called "Nationalpark" where that isn't controlled 19:06:38 <Ammler> planetmaker: I do not like the patch from Frostregen 19:07:00 <planetmaker> hm... why not? 19:07:18 <Ammler> tree growing is really off :-) 19:07:29 <planetmaker> :) Ok 19:07:39 <planetmaker> So you want it rather slower than off? 19:07:56 <planetmaker> a speed setting? 19:08:19 <Ammler> maybe 10 times slower then it is now 19:08:41 <planetmaker> Hm... that should be feasable, too... 19:09:15 <LordAzamath> will the map be tropical? :o 19:11:13 <planetmaker> hm... I'd rather advocate arctic. But I think it's not decided. 19:11:21 <planetmaker> Bugger Mark for a map :) 19:12:54 <LordAzamath> if it is not tropical then why to bother about trees?.. Or is there a newgrf industry which uses trees the same way as the sawmill i n tropical? 19:13:18 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-76-109-50-136.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:22 <Ammler> good idea, but no :-) 19:13:49 * LordAzamath is confuzzled 19:14:32 <Ammler> well, then we will use the Patch 19:15:39 <LordAzamath> anyway, I'm off to bed now.. bye 19:15:54 *** LordAzamath [~questionm@ip41.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 19:21:47 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-76-109-50-136.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 19:25:09 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 19:28:01 *** Splatman [~mark@78.32.116.165] has joined #openttd 19:30:32 *** Yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 19:30:53 <Splatman> Ok is there something special about the way the nightlies are compiled? 19:31:15 <Rubidium> yes 19:31:19 <planetmaker> !download 19:31:20 *** planetmaker was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 19:31:30 *** planetmaker [~pm@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:31:36 <Prof_Frink> [FAIL] 19:32:06 <Splatman> Cuase tyeh nighlty doesn't seem to have a crash that my compile from the same rev svn does have 19:32:29 <Splatman> *Because the 19:34:14 <Ammler> you didn't use gcc 19:34:25 <Splatman> No VS8 19:34:37 <Splatman> (also my exe is 3MB smaller 19:35:08 <Ammler> you skipped debug 19:35:26 <Splatman> It crasses on debug? 19:35:32 <Splatman> *crashes in debug 19:35:44 <Rubidium> what rev are we talking about? 19:35:50 <Ammler> no, there was win gcc bug yesterday 19:36:07 <Splatman> 13116 19:36:09 <Ammler> I meant the size diff 19:36:15 <Splatman> ahh 19:36:17 <Splatman> Right 19:36:57 <Ammler> 13116 was ok, the bug was in 17, iirc 19:37:36 <Splatman> I ment 13166 19:37:39 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:38:01 <Splatman> My problem is UKRS is causing teh game to crash when I click build vehicle from the meglev depot, happens in rev 13027, 13027 with 3 patches compiled, 13116 but not in thej compiled nightly version of 13166 19:38:12 <Splatman> *13166 19:38:41 <SmatZ> so 13166 works better than older revisions? 19:38:46 <Splatman> I can open the avaliable vheclies list fine 19:39:02 <Splatman> Except when I compile it my self 19:39:10 <SmatZ> there was a problem with win64 builds fixed ~three days ago 19:41:31 <Splatman> I cant see why there isn't a crash in the precompiled nightly yet there is when I compile the same revision my self 19:42:05 <Rubidium> because they aren't made by the same compiler 19:42:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13167 /trunk/src/saveload.cpp: -Codechange: prepend _ to a global variable. 19:42:15 <Rubidium> so different characteristics of the final code 19:42:24 <Rubidium> which could hide bugs 19:42:57 <Splatman> This is going to be a pain to find 19:44:01 <Splatman> How hard is it to set up gcc to cross compile? 19:44:21 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:44:25 <Rubidium> depending from the target and host: ranging from very easy to very hard 19:44:32 <Wolf01> 'night 19:44:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host250-234-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:44:52 <Splatman> I have an x86 linux box and I I want to compile for win32? 19:45:32 <Rubidium> IIRC gentoo has some emerge script, for the others you just have to follow some howto (or download the required premade binaries) 19:45:42 <Splatman> right 19:45:52 <Rubidium> but why crosscompile for windows? 19:46:19 <Splatman> Because my VS8 is aparently causing a bug 19:46:33 <Rubidium> then install the gcc for windows (or use buildottd) 19:46:48 <Rubidium> much easier 19:47:23 <SmatZ> Splatman: more useful would be if you could find and fix that bug 19:47:39 <Splatman> Thats what I'm attempting to do 19:47:59 <Splatman> Before I start trying to set up gcc 19:48:08 <SmatZ> Splatman: so nigtly crashes, but your build doesn't? 19:48:49 <Splatman> Other way 19:48:58 <Splatman> THe nightly download works fine 19:49:10 <Splatman> but my build of the same rev code crashes 19:49:18 <Splatman> No patches yet 19:49:44 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:50:09 <SmatZ> Splatman: win32 or win64? 19:50:17 <Splatman> 32 19:50:42 <Splatman> Ugh 19:51:04 <Splatman> It throws me out to the the ms files 19:52:49 <Splatman> It throws me out in EngList_SortPartial 19:53:56 <SmatZ> again? :-x 19:53:57 <Splatman> Must be a difference in the MS vactor class and gcc;s 19:54:03 <Splatman> *vector 19:54:49 <SmatZ> Splatman: what is "size" there? 19:55:09 <Splatman> About to check 19:55:12 <SmatZ> Splatman: is "qsort" in backrace? 19:55:14 <SmatZ> +t 19:56:43 <Splatman> yep 19:56:58 <Splatman> I've breakpointed it 19:57:17 <SmatZ> Splatman: does this http://paste.openttd.org/8132 solve the problem? 19:58:05 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 19:58:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.217.21.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:42 <Splatman> yes 20:00:03 <SmatZ> great 20:01:02 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.217.21.149] has joined #openttd 20:01:25 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:02 <Splatman> I've put a break point on that if 20:02:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13168 /trunk/src/engine.cpp: -Fix (r13072): forgot to 'fix' EngList_SortPartial() together with EngList_Sort() 20:02:35 <Splatman> when i click build num_items starts at 2 I continue it goes to 0 20:03:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> Splatman: i suggest you update to r13168 ;) 20:04:09 <Splatman> Yep 20:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> @openttd commit 13072 20:05:06 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: Commit by smatz :: r13072 trunk/src/engine.cpp (2008-05-13 18:39:15 UTC) 20:05:07 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: -Fix (r12995): possible out-of-bounds access 20:07:42 *** JD___ [~chatzilla@R0dd8.r.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.12/2007050813]] 20:11:55 <Splatman> Thanks SmatZ 20:17:59 <SmatZ> thanks for report Splatman :) 20:19:29 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.217.21.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:54 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E749.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 20:27:10 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 20:28:38 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 20:29:16 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:38:22 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.217.21.149] has joined #openttd 20:40:11 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:40:44 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13169 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: remove a (now) unneeded parameter of one of the Window constructors. 20:47:54 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:49:15 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:49:44 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13170 /trunk/src/ (engine_gui.cpp player_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make classes of the EnginePreview and BuyCompany windows. 20:50:39 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E749.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:01 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:59:01 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:59:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.218.72] has joined #openttd 21:00:43 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 21:04:55 *** bpZero [~opera@watertownDHCP-94.216-254-228.iw.net] has left #openttd [] 21:08:46 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:08:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:50 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 21:10:43 *** [2F2F]WhooDInI [~Q@89.137.184.192] has joined #openttd 21:10:59 <[2F2F]WhooDInI> hello 21:11:04 <[2F2F]WhooDInI> anybody in? 21:11:32 *** [2F2F]WhooDInI is now known as WhooDInI 21:12:02 <WhooDInI> is there OTTD for PPC? with WM6? or WM5? 21:13:36 <glx> not from us 21:14:20 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has left #openttd [] 21:16:09 *** Grek [~e.kantis@c83-252-194-35.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:22 *** Grek [~e.kantis@c83-252-194-35.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 21:16:31 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:18:38 <WhooDInI> where or who can i ask? or post? maybe there are others who wish OTTD for PPC. :D 21:19:09 <glx> I know there is a pocketpc version somewhere 21:20:21 <WhooDInI> i saw one from www.esoftinteractive.com 21:20:28 <WhooDInI> but it a crap 21:20:38 <glx> that's the only one I know 21:21:01 <WhooDInI> hmmmm :( 21:22:13 <ln> wtf is PPC if not PowerPC? 21:23:03 <glx> Pocket 21:23:29 *** weltende [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6] 21:23:35 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 21:24:31 <ln> silly 21:25:12 <glx> MS stuff ;) 21:27:26 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [] 21:27:29 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 21:34:47 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13171 /trunk/src/ (airport_gui.cpp dock_gui.cpp rail_gui.cpp road_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make a class of the Build[Air|Rail|Road|Dock]ToolbarWindows. 21:37:10 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:40:04 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 21:44:03 *** Splatman [~mark@78.32.116.165] has quit [] 21:44:06 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:44:28 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.105.56] has joined #openttd 21:44:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> Mega Silly stuff? 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A branch off that could be to embed a Streaming Radio station into the server. I know that would be a bandwidth issue, but I have seen Team Fortress Servers that can do it, though I think they do an HTTP external connection...But It would be cool to have servers hosting thier own music... Just a thought..." 23:55:16 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:59:52 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd