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Log for #openttd on 24th May 2008:
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02:56:23  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13226 /trunk/src/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
02:56:23  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Feature: Allow to have more than only two airports per town. The number of airports is now controlled by the noise each of them generates, the distance from town's center and how tolerant the town is.
02:56:23  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Initial concept : TTDPatch (moreairpots), Initial code : Pasky
02:56:23  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Thanks to BigBB (help coding), Smatz Skidd13 and frosch for bugcatches and advices
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05:45:26  <SirBob> arghh! YAPP wont compile :(
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08:31:16  <Roujin> morning
08:33:07  <Roujin> congrats Belugas ;)
08:34:28  <Roujin> guess I'll stop coding and play a while with your new feature :)
08:34:59  <Prof_Frink> That's what she said.
08:36:51  <Roujin> what's what who said?
08:37:04  <Roujin> oh
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08:37:20  <Roujin> I think I got you
08:37:41  <Roujin> pervert :P
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10:03:12  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13227 /trunk/src/misc/smallvec.h: -Codechange: Apply code style
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10:05:48  <murr4y> wow
10:05:52  <murr4y> you guys are like
10:05:58  <hylje> !
10:05:58  <murr4y> working continuously
10:06:03  <murr4y> night and day
10:06:06  <murr4y> how do you find the time
10:06:31  <murr4y> damn impressive
10:06:37  <Prof_Frink> I'm a Time Lord.
10:06:52  <murr4y> you control time?
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10:07:12  <murr4y> can you give me some more time to read before my exams?
10:07:18  <Eddi|zuHause3> no, because i have stolen his TARDIS
10:07:21  <Prof_Frink> No, I travel through time and space, fighting evil
10:07:34  <Prof_Frink> And putting up shelves. Sonically.
10:09:22  <Eddi|zuHause3> that's why he won't be able to do anything this week
10:09:52  <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause3: Oh, but next week's gonna be awesome.
10:10:08  <Eddi|zuHause3> don't tell me :p
10:10:41  <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause3: All I know is it's part 1 of a Moffat double.
10:11:26  <Eddi|zuHause3> i heard moffat will take over for davies for the 2010 series
10:11:36  <Prof_Frink> You heard correctly :)
10:12:15  * Roest blergs
10:12:28  * Prof_Frink zoidbergs
10:12:31  <peter1138> !seen bigbb
10:12:35  <peter1138> @seen bigbb
10:12:35  <DorpsGek> peter1138: bigbb was last seen in #openttd 21 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 2 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <BigBB> I don't understand it
10:12:49  <Eddi|zuHause3> a propos... when's the next futurama due?
10:15:19  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13228 /trunk/ (22 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: split console.h.
10:15:24  <a1270> june 24th
10:16:04  <Eddi|zuHause3> that's like... another month...
10:18:13  <Roujin> ahaha, found a funny bug :D
10:18:24  <Prof_Frink> A bunny fug?
10:18:49  <Roujin> yes, it wears a funny hat and dances and tells jokes
10:19:06  <murr4y> ooh, does it have a hat
10:19:07  <murr4y> and a stick
10:19:07  <Roujin> no seriously.. I can have multiple airport selection windows open at the same time...
10:20:01  <Roujin> anyone here willing to fix it directly, or should I go file a bug report?
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10:22:13  <Eddi|zuHause3> yes.
10:22:29  <hylje> the perfect answer for .. or ..
10:22:34  <murr4y> lol
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10:23:59  <Roujin> whoops, already known since thursday :P
10:24:06  <Roujin> FS2030
10:24:30  <Roujin> but it's funny being able to build roads with the airport selection :D
10:26:09  <Alberth> Is the only reason that FS#1942 was left open that both code-change diffs became broken?
10:27:53  <peter1138> they'll be obsolete
10:28:35  <Alberth> ok, I won't update them then :)
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10:32:59  <Mchl> hello
10:33:15  <Bjarni> hi Mchl
10:33:25  <Bjarni> you didn't answer my question last night :/
10:33:34  <Mchl> i got disconnected
10:33:48  <Bjarni> that would explain the lack of goodbye as well
10:33:55  <Mchl> last hing I got from you, was about async engines'
10:34:17  <Bjarni> then you missed out on a great deal
10:34:25  <Bjarni> oh well
10:34:38  <Mchl> there's always another day
10:34:41  <Bjarni> the question was: what kind of engineering are you studying?
10:35:26  <Mchl> it is called robotics at my faculty
10:35:32  <Bjarni> o_O
10:35:37  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13229 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: replace some global variables that are only initialised once and always with the same value with enums.
10:35:50  <Bjarni> weird
10:35:55  <Mchl> but in fact it is more like discrete control
10:36:28  <Bjarni> I thought I was the only one here studying robots
10:36:33  <a1270> Time to restart X.
10:36:36  <Mchl> lol
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10:36:54  <Mchl> hey, he actually said something..
10:37:08  <Bjarni> yeah
10:37:11  <Prof_Frink> He also had to quit IRC to restart X
10:37:18  <Prof_Frink> Which is silly.
10:37:34  <murr4y> why?
10:37:56  <murr4y> all my programs are exited when i restart X
10:38:04  <Prof_Frink> How silly.
10:38:14  <murr4y> what distro do you use
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10:38:16  <murr4y> ?
10:38:24  <Prof_Frink> My screen session doesn't care whether I restart X
10:38:27  <Mchl> Bjarni: I have very little experience with actual industrial robots
10:38:34  <Mchl> i'm more specialised in PLCs
10:38:44  <Prof_Frink> murr4y: Kumbongo and Debbie
10:38:45  <murr4y> ah
10:38:52  <murr4y> screen
10:39:02  <murr4y> well, my irc doesn't even care if i turn off the computer
10:39:05  <Bjarni> Mchl: PLCs are a good thing as well
10:39:10  <murr4y> beat that
10:39:22  <Bjarni> beat PLCs?
10:39:23  <Prof_Frink> murr4y: Same.
10:39:24  <Bjarni> I better not
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10:39:31  <Bjarni> they could break
10:39:37  <murr4y> and i'm not bnc'ed :D
10:39:59  <Bjarni> Mchl: then it's not the same kind of robotics we study
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10:40:03  <Prof_Frink> Neither am I.
10:40:13  <Mchl> I love my PLCs :P
10:40:20  <Prof_Frink> ssh!
10:40:26  <murr4y> yep :D
10:40:48  <murr4y> i'm actually in windows now :( irc through putty
10:40:52  <murr4y> cause i need visual barfio
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10:41:54  <a1270> When doing daily kde 4 svn compiles you have to account for X getting kicked. Though things only freak out after a few recompiles.
10:42:50  <Prof_Frink> That is why you use irssi in screen on a different computer.
10:43:59  <Eddi|zuHause3> why compile if you have the buildservice?
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10:44:39  <Bjarni> no answer...
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11:19:47  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r13230 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Fix [FS#2030](r13171): When closing toolbars, also close their PickerWindows.
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11:22:19  <Roujin> wheee
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11:55:39  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13231 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: split the core console code and the console GUI.
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12:16:10  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13232 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Codechange: Simplify BuildDepotVehicleList()
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12:43:23  <Wolf01> hello
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13:37:27  <Eddi|zuHause3> # Die Sonne scheint mir aus den HÀnden, kann verbrennen, kann dich blenden
13:37:27  <Eddi|zuHause3> # wenn sie aus den FÀusten bricht, legt sich heiß auf dein Gesicht
13:37:27  <Eddi|zuHause3> # legt sich schmerzend auf die Brust, das Gleichgewicht wird zum Verlust
13:37:27  <Eddi|zuHause3> # lÀsst dich hart zu Boden gehen, und die Welt zÀhlt laut bis zehn
13:38:17  <Prof_Frink> | English Only |
13:39:26  <Sacro> DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES
13:39:44  <Prof_Frink> Ooh look, that alarms are going off
13:39:46  * Gekz kills Sacro
13:39:52  <Gekz> Allah akbar!
13:40:03  * Prof_Frink steals all of Sacro's points
13:40:16  <Prof_Frink> Gekz: It's a trap!
13:40:22  <Gekz> he's already dead.
13:40:26  <Eddi|zuHause3> [Do MÀr 13 2008] [16:22:53] <Belugas>   music is universal
13:40:27  <Gekz> and I'm already reading right-to-left.
13:40:32  <Gekz> I fell into my own trap.
13:42:01  <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause3: Well, that wasn't musics.
13:42:06  <Prof_Frink> It made no sound.
13:42:48  <Gekz> *beep*
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13:43:52  <Eddi|zuHause3> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=mfHlA3fmJG0 <- better?
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13:51:20  <Sacro> http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=33.15796,-107.171631&spn=0.131637,0.218353&t=h&z=12&iwloc=addr <- sniggah XD
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13:56:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> oh i so loathe google maps
13:57:34  <Eddi|zuHause3> Sacro: what would i be supposed to look at if fucking google didn't tell me "your webbrowser is not supported"?
13:58:29  <Sacro> a place called "Elephants Butte"
13:58:30  <Sacro> err
13:58:32  <Sacro> "Butte"
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14:17:53  <Gekz> lol
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15:48:57  <dvdb> hi
15:49:10  <dvdb> how can i found/make a city in a running openttd game?
15:49:31  <Phantasm> Can't?
15:50:50  <murr4y> openttd is a simulation
15:51:10  <murr4y> in the real world, even if you're rich you can't just go somewhere empty and say "i want a new town HERE!"
15:51:47  <Phantasm> murr4y: Actually you can.
15:52:00  <Phantasm> Been done even.
15:52:12  <murr4y> where?
15:52:22  <murr4y> and when?
15:52:40  <Phantasm> Can't remember exactly, but say, you open a mine somewhere.. Workers must stay somewhere, ...
15:52:43  <Sacro> murr4y: see Milton Keynes
15:52:43  <Phantasm> A town forms.
15:53:16  <hylje> RealTTD
15:53:26  <murr4y> oh
15:53:34  <murr4y> well
15:53:38  <murr4y> let's implement that then!
15:53:40  <dvdb> murr4y: yea, you can ;-) In Switzerland some years (50?) ago, when Zurich grew, there were new "sub cities" etc.
15:53:46  <hylje> suburbs
15:54:44  <murr4y> ok ok
15:54:49  <murr4y> i give up :p
15:55:13  <dvdb> but in the newest version you cant?
15:55:34  <glx> it never was possible
15:56:43  <dvdb> hm.
15:56:48  <dvdb> unwell.
15:57:28  <Phantasm> murr4y: And if you really want and have money, you can build a town and then sell the houses etc cheap to get people there. They will come.
15:57:54  <dvdb> Phantasm: did you ever do that?
15:58:09  <Phantasm> dvdb: It won't work in game, but in reality it works.
15:58:20  <Phantasm> And no, I didn't do it in reality.
15:58:44  <peter1138> hmm, cheap houses
15:58:48  <dvdb> it sounds very realistic; so yea.
15:58:50  <peter1138> i'd like one
15:59:05  <dvdb> aren't in usa enough of them?
15:59:07  <peter1138> then i could sell my expensive house and have loads of money
15:59:32  <murr4y> and what'd you spend that money on?
15:59:39  <peter1138> errr
15:59:44  <peter1138> ummm
15:59:46  <peter1138> another hosue? hehe
15:59:49  <murr4y> :D
16:01:08  <Phantasm> murr4y: You could sell your old expensive house to buy a new one cheap, for same price and thus get bigger one.
16:01:14  <peter1138> anyone know how to make twinview not fail with fullscreen games?
16:01:16  <Phantasm> Of course it would take quite some time for the town to grow up.
16:02:15  <murr4y> i never made twinview work properly
16:02:19  <murr4y> i think xinerama does the trick
16:03:51  <murr4y> i'm happy today
16:03:56  <murr4y> sun is shining and all is well
16:04:02  <murr4y> :)
16:07:40  <peter1138> twinview works
16:07:57  <peter1138> but fullscreen opengl stuff doesn't
16:08:03  <peter1138> openttd works ;)
16:08:04  <SpComb> compiz + dual monitors = !
16:08:19  <murr4y> yep :D
16:08:23  <SpComb> it's annoying having all the dialogue boxes show up smack in the middle, split across the two monitors
16:08:31  <peter1138> that's true
16:08:32  <SpComb> and not being able to maximize a window to a single monitor
16:08:40  <SpComb> and websites that open up "fullscreen" popups
16:08:59  <SpComb> perhaps I've had enough of compiz and gnome and should switch to ion3
16:09:03  <peter1138> hmm, well for me maximize only maximizes to the screen it's on
16:09:09  <peter1138> though i'm not using compiz
16:09:19  <SpComb> I should probably stop using compiz
16:09:34  <peter1138> the border shadows don't work for me: (
16:10:23  <SpComb> compiz works ok-ish for me, but the thing with dual monitors is annoying
16:10:31  <SpComb> ready to give up compiz to improve it
16:10:36  <SpComb> and a bit annoyed with gnome anyways
16:10:46  <peter1138> xfce? heh
16:10:50  <murr4y> that doesn't have to do with compiz
16:10:57  <murr4y> SpComb: use two screen sessions
16:10:59  <murr4y> one for each screen
16:11:03  <murr4y> that's better
16:11:20  <SpComb> two separate X sessions?
16:11:24  <murr4y> yeah
16:11:40  <murr4y> then you don't need the same resolution either
16:11:43  * SpComb wonders how that works
16:11:44  <murr4y> if one's better than the other
16:11:55  <murr4y> you don't have desktop files on the other one
16:12:01  <murr4y> and have to customize gnome twice
16:12:04  <SpComb> can you move applications etc between them?
16:12:05  <murr4y> but other than that it's great
16:12:08  <murr4y> no
16:12:15  <peter1138> twinview doesn't need the same resolution either
16:12:16  <SpComb> copy-paste?
16:12:18  <murr4y> yeah
16:12:32  <SpComb> doesn't really sound like such a great solution
16:12:40  <SpComb> gnome supports dual monitors sensibly without compiz
16:12:41  <peter1138> it's not, i tried it once
16:13:12  <murr4y> depends on your taste i supposed
16:13:14  <murr4y> worked great for me
16:13:21  <murr4y> s/supposed/suppose/
16:15:38  <murr4y> you rarely want to move things between them anyway
16:16:08  <murr4y> if you have 4 workspaces, you get 2x4
16:16:10  <murr4y> two cubes :D
16:18:12  <peter1138> hmm, i move things all the time
16:18:36  <murr4y> indecisive?
16:18:45  <murr4y> i know what i want ;)
16:20:00  <murr4y> i usually have irc, msn, music on the right one
16:20:11  <murr4y> and browsing, programming, ottd etc on the left one
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16:22:35  <murr4y> oh and porn on the right one too
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16:22:45  <SpComb> browsing and programming need to be on separate monitors
16:22:46  <murr4y> constant porn running on one of the workspaces
16:23:04  <murr4y> yeah i know
16:23:06  <SpComb> editor/compiler/debugger/tester + documentation/browser
16:23:11  <murr4y> i started off that way
16:23:17  <murr4y> but i got so much distracted :p
16:23:35  <peter1138> documentation? :o
16:23:47  <SpComb> yes
16:24:03  <Eddi|zuHause3> what is a documentation?
16:24:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> has anyone seen that before?
16:24:20  <SpComb> the kind of thing that all good programmers write
16:24:35  <SpComb> e.g. OpenTTD lacks it for the screenshot code :<
16:24:37  <Eddi|zuHause3> what is a good programmer?
16:24:38  <Eddi|zuHause3> has anyone seen that before?
16:24:46  <SpComb> from time to time
16:24:53  <SpComb> they tend to be pretty unpleasant people though
16:25:06  <murr4y> how so?
16:26:32  <Digitalfox> Any TT Forum topic where I can download some Open saves, that use lot's of train track signals? I'm doing something wrong in my signal design, since my trains get all mess up and eventually they get blocked..
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16:29:03  <SpComb> murr4y: dunno, perhaps because of the code development procedures that you need to use to write good code
16:30:11  <murr4y> they're unpleasant because of that?
16:30:48  <glx> Digitalfox: try ottdcoop wiki
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16:50:17  <Belugas> [12:28] <murr4y> they're unpleasant because of that?  <-- naaa, because they are too often harrassed with stupid questions, stupid feature requests, stupid bug reports taht are most usually buggy users instead... and they get eager as time goes by
16:50:22  <Belugas> that is why
16:50:41  <Belugas> and then, they get sarcastic and...  you know...
16:50:52  <murr4y> haha
16:50:56  <murr4y> good point
16:51:19  <Belugas> and did i mentionned crappy stupid patches?
16:51:31  <Belugas> (not all of them are crappy tough)...
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16:51:57  <murr4y> :p
16:52:37  <Belugas> and... real life calls me again to duty
16:52:38  <Belugas> gone
16:52:56  <murr4y> hey
16:52:57  <murr4y> i'm real
16:53:20  <murr4y> even tho i'm on the other side of the tubes
16:53:54  <Prof_Frink> I'm not real
16:54:07  <murr4y> no you're a cartoon character
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16:56:45  <murr4y> tom was not amused :/
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18:42:47  <Splatman> What would cause a save game to fail to load with too many orders?
18:43:08  <Splatman> I can tell its because the indwext is 2113929222
18:43:20  <Splatman> but why would it go that high?
18:43:48  <Splatman> A save from 3 months ago (game time) is fine
18:44:03  <Splatman> Only added a few trains and planes since then
18:44:16  <Splatman> but can't figure out what caused it
18:44:16  <SmatZ> index can't be > 65535
18:44:22  <SmatZ> savegame would be useful
18:44:26  <SmatZ> the broken one
18:44:38  <SmatZ> maybe the best solution is to put it at bugs.openttd.org
18:44:59  <SmatZ> the non-brokan savegame would be nice, too
18:45:13  <Splatman> I'm running a patched copy with ukrs
18:46:39  <Eddi|zuHause3> what kind of patch?
18:46:53  <Splatman> Um PBS Tracksharing and copy paste
18:46:58  <Splatman> I belive
18:47:12  <Splatman> YEp
18:47:35  <Eddi|zuHause3> changing patches midgame may cause trouble
18:47:59  <Splatman> This was done with thoese 3 from teh start
18:48:27  <SmatZ> don't report bugs with patched OTTD versions
18:48:29  <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, but did you update to newer revisions?
18:48:35  <SmatZ> you should have mentioned it earlier :-P
18:48:49  <Splatman> Its been the same rev from teh start
18:49:19  <Splatman> I was trying to figure out what was causing teh bug so I could figure out who to point oit too
18:50:00  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, it's most likely caused by one of these patches
18:50:10  <Splatman> My guess is track sharing
18:50:41  <Eddi|zuHause3> try to find a reproduceable case, and then try this case on a clean trunk, if it still happens, then report it here
18:51:32  <Splatman> The problem is I can't find out what cuases it in the first place
18:51:38  <Splatman> as it doesn't crash the game
18:51:57  <Splatman> which I assume means the error is in the save code
18:58:52  <Splatman> Is there anly guide to teh save game format?
19:02:48  <Eddi|zuHause3> it's a simple RIFF format like any other, but i don't think that approach will lead you to the error
19:03:48  <Eddi|zuHause3> if you suspect the tracksharing patch, you're better off talking to the developer of said patch
19:04:18  <Splatman> Its the oly patch which should do anything with orders code
19:06:55  <Digitalfox> Can someone help me out here? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=37697
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19:07:32  <ln> who's going to win?
19:08:00  <Eddi|zuHause3> if the loading chokes on the orders chunk does not mean the error is in there, it might be on the previous chunk which was processed
19:08:39  <Eddi|zuHause3> ln: germany, who else?!? :p
19:09:53  <ln> i didn't know they are participating
19:11:51  <Eddi|zuHause3> germany is always participating
19:12:43  <Eddi|zuHause3> germany is one of the countries that are automatically qualified
19:13:02  <frosch123> you can buy the qualification, but not the victory :p
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19:13:25  <Eddi|zuHause3> obviously ;)
19:13:31  <bowman> participating in what?
19:13:46  <SmatZ> [21:13:03] <frosch123> you can buy the qualification, but not the victory :p <-- are you sure?
19:14:06  <Eddi|zuHause3> SmatZ: well, germany managed to win only once
19:14:37  <SmatZ> if you are talking about eurovision... people here are not really interested in it
19:14:46  <bowman> meh
19:15:12  <Eddi|zuHause3> who is "people" and what is "here"?
19:15:34  <SmatZ> but our signer there got there because one recording company said its employees to send her SMS...
19:15:34  <Prof_Frink> Request for topic: | No Eurovision |
19:15:42  <SmatZ> people = people, here = czech republic
19:16:00  <frosch123> people of which age?
19:16:08  <Prof_Frink> Dark
19:16:08  <SmatZ> I think people of any age
19:16:27  <SmatZ> those people really can't sign :-/
19:16:36  <SmatZ> *sing
19:16:51  <yorick> [21:15] <Prof_Frink> Request for topic: | No Eurovision | <-- and | NO LN-s to enforce English Only |
19:17:20  <bowman> I second that
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19:18:36  <ln> enforcing English only is so May 2008's
19:20:15  <yorick> it is like...May 2008?
19:20:42  <ln> quite late May 2008
19:21:01  <ln> oh, it's germany
19:21:18  <yorick> quite.
19:22:39  <Sacro> EUROVISION :D
19:22:54  <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause3: they can't win with that voice!
19:22:59  <SmatZ> that's terrible, sorry :-x
19:23:07  <Sacro> my god the german entry sounds like a bag of dying cats
19:23:22  <Eddi|zuHause3> they sounded better once upon time :p
19:23:29  <Sacro> my god
19:23:37  <Sacro> this makes me wonder WHO FAILED TO QUALIFY ><
19:24:05  <SmatZ> :-D
19:24:25  <Eddi|zuHause3> well, honestly, i also think that was a bad performance
19:24:38  <Eddi|zuHause3> the song sounded better in a recording i heard
19:25:41  <Sacro> i'd do her in the dark
19:25:52  <SmatZ> hehe
19:26:04  <Eddi|zuHause3> which one? :p
19:26:18  <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Paper bag job?
19:27:07  <Sacro> Prof_Frink: hmm, i don't know
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19:29:37  <Eddi|zuHause3> but he can't sing either
19:30:15  <SmatZ> can anyone at eurovision sing?
19:30:44  <Eddi|zuHause3> occasionally :p
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19:32:33  <Eddi|zuHause3> it's already dark in belgrad?
19:33:15  <ln> isn't it like 22:33 over there?
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19:33:36  <Sacro> ahh terry wogan
19:33:40  <Sacro> i love the racism
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19:36:43  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r13233 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
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19:36:59  <ln> all rise
19:38:44  <Sacro> someone should tell him his guitar isn't plugged in
19:39:03  <SpComb>  ssh, might hurt his feelings
19:39:30  <hylje> bad ssh!
19:42:25  <Sacro> was he in the godfather...
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20:04:17  <Eddi|zuHause3> latvia is clearly the favourite :p
20:04:44  <SmatZ> :-D
20:04:58  <SmatZ> I think I will go to Eurovision next year
20:05:00  <SmatZ> as singer
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20:09:43  <Eddi|zuHause3> and this one put too much botox on
20:10:24  <ln> bjarniland!
20:10:40  <yorick> where?
20:11:01  <Prof_Frink> ln: No, it's Bjardonia.
20:11:11  <ln> Bjarnistan.
20:11:22  <yorick> I'm a Bjardonan!
20:11:26  <Eddi|zuHause3> Bjarnien
20:11:53  <hylje> bjarnoslovakia
20:11:54  <yorick> Eddi is a Bjardanan!
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20:16:52  <ln> are the songs dubbed in german?
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20:18:14  <bowman> hehe
20:20:06  <Eddi|zuHause3> :p
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20:56:09  <xTs> hi.
20:56:32  <xTs> Is there a way to play openttd without the original tt files?
20:59:22  <frosch123> psst - they are all sleeping in front of eurovision
20:59:28  <frosch123> but: no
21:00:15  <xTs> ihhk... who wants to watch a show like this?
21:00:45  <xTs> and there's really no way? Hm :/
21:00:54  <xTs> then i've got to find another game to kill time
21:02:44  <xTs> bye
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21:03:27  <Wolf01> 'night
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21:11:18  <Eddi|zuHause3> they have an interesting tuba-variation ;)
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21:24:18  <Prof_Frink> frosch123: You could have told him about the 3407
21:27:27  <ln> fi > se
21:29:44  <Eddi|zuHause3> germany 0 points :p
21:30:34  <Eddi|zuHause3> traditionally, germany gets lots of points from german speaking countries
21:30:44  <Eddi|zuHause3> i.e. austria, switzerland and mallorca
21:31:31  <ln> traditionally, finland gets 1 point from sweden and zero from all others.
21:32:14  <Eddi|zuHause3> one member of the german group is from bulgaria
21:34:47  <Digitalfox> Strange the most rich nations of EU are the last in Eurovision.. :p
21:35:22  <Sacro> Digitalfox: block voting
21:35:31  <Sacro> nobody fears us so they don't feel they need to vote
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21:36:24  <Digitalfox> Did you se the ones who have more votes? Like no offense everybody but most of them are really poor :\
21:36:32  <Sacro> yes
21:36:36  <Sacro> but russia is at the top
21:36:37  <Eddi|zuHause3> Digitalfox: historically, the poor people always outnumber the rich people
21:36:40  <Sacro> and armenia
21:37:00  <Sacro> like terry said "they don;t want to lose electric and oil from russia"
21:37:02  <ln> bjarni 12 points
21:39:08  <Digitalfox> Ukraine should give Portugal all the points since we have here atleast half people of that country..
21:39:57  <ben_goodger> oh dear, eurovision
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21:40:35  <Eddi|zuHause3> Digitalfox: that was very clearly to be seen in the portuguese vote :p
21:42:02  <Digitalfox> Eddi|zuHause3: who said Ukraine people have money to call?? They are just here to earn money and send it to Ukraine :p
21:42:05  <Sacro> Digitalfox: ukraine gave 12 points to russia in exhcange for oil/electric
21:42:19  <ln> Sacro: and independence
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21:43:24  <Digitalfox> Is just it seems eurovision is no longer about quality but about interests and to see who gives more shine to the shoes of others.. :p
21:44:01  <Prof_Frink> "no longer about quality"
21:44:01  <Sacro> yes
21:44:06  <Sacro> Prof_Frink: ABBA pwned
21:44:21  <Sacro> best british eurovision group evar
21:46:19  <Digitalfox> How is it called the group the finland group that won last year?
21:47:45  <Sacro> finland didn't win last year
21:47:51  <Sacro> hence it being held in belgrade this year
21:47:55  <Sacro> fail :p
21:48:39  <Digitalfox> I mean in 2006
21:49:08  <Digitalfox> Sacro I don't follow eurovision that much.. Last year I didn't even see it..
21:49:17  <Sacro> hehe
21:49:18  <Sacro> Lordi
21:49:40  <Digitalfox> Do they have a CD?
21:49:59  <ln> a compact disc?
21:50:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> the song was called "Hard Rock Halleluja" or so
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21:51:20  <Sacro> Digitalfox: fair few
21:51:21  <Digitalfox> ln I mean some studio work like a record or a single :p
21:51:24  <Sacro> i snagged about 3 from tpb
21:51:56  <ln> sure Lordi has many records
21:52:06  <Sacro> yeah
21:52:17  <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, spain is not nearly as high as i thought it would
21:53:01  <Eddi|zuHause3> i thought greece would win, but they appear to lose to russia
21:54:49  <Digitalfox> Love the swiss girl giving points =0
21:55:09  <Eddi|zuHause3> i guess 2 points count as "high" these days :p
21:55:11  <Sacro> Digitalfox: i'd tap that
21:55:18  <Digitalfox> Oh shit let me clear the log or my girlfriend kills me
21:55:33  <Eddi|zuHause3> but it really was an awful performance of the german grouÌ
21:55:39  <Digitalfox> Belgrade also good material =0
21:55:40  <Eddi|zuHause3> s/Ì/p/
21:56:42  <ln> Digitalfox: is she insane?
21:56:54  <Digitalfox> ln what?
21:57:15  <murr4y> nice sed there Eddi :D
21:57:20  <murr4y> try s/\?/p/
21:57:36  <ln> murr4y: UTF-8 is mandatory.
21:57:55  <murr4y> what character was not utf-8?
21:58:13  <Eddi|zuHause3> there was no ?
21:59:20  <murr4y> no character that wasnt utf-8 you mean, right? :p
21:59:31  <murr4y> or that there was no questionmark
21:59:50  <Eddi|zuHause3> the latter
21:59:59  <murr4y> hm
22:00:02  <Sacro> Digitalfox: you mean she can't do !logs ;)
22:00:49  <Digitalfox> Sacro I'm talking about local log ;)
22:01:02  <Sacro> she's a hot blonde with nice breasticles
22:01:04  <Sacro> LD
22:01:04  <Sacro> :D
22:01:10  <Sacro> @seen Bjarni
22:01:10  <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 11 hours, 16 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <Bjarni> no answer...
22:01:16  <Sacro> aww, he needs to be here
22:01:44  <ln> did soviet union or DDR participate?
22:02:20  <Sacro> dance dance revolution?
22:02:47  <ln> double data rate, of course.
22:03:53  <Sacro> hmm
22:04:59  <ln> the damn Yugoslavia should vote and receive votes as one entity.
22:05:16  <ln> same goes for the CCCP.
22:05:48  <Digitalfox> Wow just see greece girl, now I know why they won so many points..
22:06:05  <Sacro> i'd do her
22:06:14  <Sacro> so many hot girls
22:06:22  <Sacro> YE GADS
22:06:26  <SmatZ> wasn't finland part of russia 100 years ago?
22:06:33  <Digitalfox> sacro hell yeah, I'll do first then give her to you =0
22:06:46  <SmatZ> I think Finland should vote together with Russia, too
22:07:22  <Digitalfox> SmatZ why?
22:07:35  <SmatZ> hey ln you won!
22:07:54  <SmatZ> Digitalfox: ln started about historical unions and federations...
22:08:00  <Sacro> that's ln?
22:08:15  <SmatZ> hehe
22:08:55  <Mchl> Then Poland should give 1/3 to Russia, 1/3 to Germany, 1/6 to Austria and 1/6 to Hungary...
22:09:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> of course :p
22:09:22  <Mchl> more or less :P
22:09:31  <Mchl> Sweden could get something as well
22:09:38  <Sacro> france should just bend over and give it all to germany
22:09:46  <Sacro> and then plead with britian to help get it back
22:09:49  <Mchl> LOL
22:09:56  <Eddi|zuHause3> what part of poland was owned by sweden?
22:10:06  <Sacro> and then keep it to themselves rather than thank the british for their help
22:10:13  <Eddi|zuHause3> for a long time the dukes of saxony were kings of poland
22:11:46  <Mchl> yes they were
22:12:28  <Mchl> we were actually electing kings at that time...
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22:13:49  <Eddi|zuHause3> it was not uncommon for kings to be elected by the next lower level of nobles
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22:14:13  <Mchl> it didn't do too much good to Poland
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22:15:35  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Fix: Check/affect town rating when removing/bulldozing town-owned road under drivethrough stops.
22:15:35  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Fix: Reset the 'town-owned-road'-flag when removing and rebuilding road under drivethrough stops.
22:15:48  <Eddi|zuHause3> the kaiser of germany (in the old empire) was usually elected by a group of 7 (later 9) electorates
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22:18:13  <Mchl> in poland, all nobles could take part in election
22:18:38  <Mchl> not all of them actually cared anyway
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22:19:30  <Eddi|zuHause3> original electors were the Bishops of Mainz, Köln and Trier, and the dukes of the Pfalz, Sachsen, Brandenburg and the king of Bohemia
22:19:54  <Eddi|zuHause3> later it was extended by the dukes of Bayern (Bavaria) and Hannover
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22:26:04  <ln> for some bizarre reason Hannover is Hanover in english
22:27:32  <Eddi|zuHause3> the interesting part about that is that the duke of Hannover and the king of england was the same at that time
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22:29:06  <Mchl> sheeesh... nobody seemed to be interested in electing polish nobles as their kings... even poles
22:29:20  <ln> and it cannot be a coincidence that last time i visited hannover, also Tony Blair and Putin were there.
22:29:44  <Mchl> now that's too much to attribute it to pure chance
22:30:06  <Mchl> ln: are you involved in petrobussiness somehow?
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22:31:09  <ln> no, i prefer coal cars.
22:31:40  <Sacro> i prefer women
22:31:46  <Sacro> but each to their own
22:33:13  <ln> Sacro: well, which one has more energy to warm you up, a woman or a fully loaded coal car?
22:33:52  <ln> all night
22:36:29  <ln> and also, night all
22:36:50  <ln> notte a tutti
22:37:01  <Mchl> night
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22:37:58  <ln> Sacro: btw, it was kind of a rhetorical question, you do not need to go investigate in the middle of the night. come back in.
22:39:19  <Sacro> that is true...
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23:38:02  <Sacro> http://yawoot.com/post/596 whoops
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23:47:19  <Eddi|zuHause3> @calc 12166/2167
23:47:19  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: 5.61421319797
23:47:53  <Eddi|zuHause3> @calc 11244/1920
23:47:53  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: 5.85625
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