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00:06:01 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 00:06:39 *** jennyf [~jennyf@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 00:08:58 *** jennyf [~jennyf@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [] 00:19:42 *** sandra_f [~sandra_f@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 00:21:25 *** sandra_f [~sandra_f@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [] 00:27:58 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: you missed 2 of them :p 00:29:17 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: oh no, 2 of what? 00:30:47 <TrueBrain> [02:06] --> jennyf has joined this channel (~jennyf@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr). 00:30:47 <TrueBrain> [02:08] <-- jennyf has left this server. 00:30:47 <TrueBrain> [02:19] --> sandra_f has joined this channel (~sandra_f@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr). 00:30:47 <TrueBrain> [02:21] <-- sandra_f has left this server. 00:30:54 <SmatZ> ahhh :) 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: translators * r13905 /trunk/src/lang/ (11 files): (log message trimmed) 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-08-01 02:27:37 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 22 fixed by tucalipe (22) 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: dutch - 9 fixed by habell (9) 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: estonian - 4 fixed by kristjans (4) 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: french - 5 fixed, 1 changed by glx (6) 00:31:40 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: galician - 105 fixed, 206 changed by Condex (311) 00:32:39 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 00:33:16 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:35 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 00:34:25 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77275.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:37:33 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13906 /branches/0.6/src/lang/piglatin.txt: [0.6] -Fix: eol-style of piglatin is wrong making language backport scripts barf. 00:40:50 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76397.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:41:54 *** olgagirl [~olgagirl@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #openttd 00:41:59 <SmatZ> here is one! 00:42:16 <TrueBrain> PM it 00:42:28 <Rubidium> ban it! 00:42:31 <TrueBrain> @ban olgagirl 00:42:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by Rubidium 00:42:35 <TrueBrain> stupid DorpsGek 00:42:41 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccc3.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:24 *** mode/#openttd [+b olgagirl!*@*] by SmatZ 00:43:26 <SmatZ> mmm 00:43:27 *** mode/#openttd [+b spam!*@*] by SmatZ 00:43:28 <Yexo> what's the matter with all those users from the same ip? 00:43:32 *** olgagirl was kicked from #openttd by SmatZ [spam] 00:43:35 <TrueBrain> it is a scanner 00:43:39 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: ban the IP 00:43:47 <SmatZ> [02:43:05] <olgagirl> camcult.com 00:43:53 <SmatZ> it looks like spam... 00:44:04 *** mode/#openttd [-b spam!*@*] by SmatZ 00:44:08 *** mode/#openttd [-b olgagirl!*@*] by SmatZ 00:44:14 <SmatZ> I am too nice to ban people 00:44:20 <SmatZ> though... those are not humans... 00:44:32 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr] by TrueBrain 00:44:36 <TrueBrain> but I have no problems with it 00:44:39 <SmatZ> hehe 00:44:41 <SmatZ> hero TrueBrain 00:45:01 <SmatZ> http://paste.openttd.org/38686 :) 00:45:05 <glx> @ban *!*@212-198-248-33.rev.numericable.fr 00:45:14 <TrueBrain> glx: DorpsGek doesn't know banning :p 00:45:19 <glx> @op 00:45:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 00:45:30 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: told you it was fun 00:46:44 <ln> banna dig sÃ¥ hÃ¥rt 00:46:50 <SmatZ> hehe 00:46:54 <SmatZ> like those ICQ bots... 00:47:25 * glx should reinstall ICQ to see how many asked me to add them 00:47:35 <SmatZ> hehe 00:48:45 <fmauNeko> USER PID PU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND 00:48:46 <fmauNeko> root 1 0.0 0.0 864 328 ? 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S< Jul31 0:01 [events/1] 00:48:50 *** fmauNeko [~fmauNeko@thor.fmauneko.eu] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:49:22 <glx> nice one 00:49:36 <SmatZ> :_) 00:49:59 *** fmauNeko [~fmauNeko@thor.fmauneko.eu] has joined #openttd 00:50:07 <fmauNeko> sry, i don't know what the hell done my irc client 00:50:10 <ln> was that the first time fmauNeko ever said anything? 00:51:05 <TrueBrain> omg 00:51:05 <TrueBrain> in that case: welcome fmauNeko 00:51:12 <fmauNeko> thx :) 00:52:12 <fmauNeko> i was trying something on #openttd, but on another network (irc://localhost/) 00:52:22 <SmatZ> hehe 00:52:45 <fmauNeko> and the client forgot the '| grep openttd' 00:55:15 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 00:55:15 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56:58 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: scouting for sexy ass] 00:57:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-214-150.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:58:28 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-51-112.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 01:00:37 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-51-112.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 01:03:36 *** fmauNeko is now known as fmauNekAway 01:09:10 <ln> wrong 01:11:09 * TrueBrain waves goodbye to this channel :) Have a good one! 01:11:12 *** TrueBrain [truelight@80.247.163.110] has left #openttd [So long and tnx for all the fish] 01:21:14 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 01:21:14 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:54 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:30:30 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Wezz6400] 01:47:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8030E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:47:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 02:02:47 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 02:02:47 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:04:02 *** welshdragon is now known as welshdra-gone 02:04:40 <Celestar> hm .. 02:04:45 <Celestar> @who 02:05:11 <Rubidium> hello Celestar 02:05:14 <Celestar> I'm just through TrueBrain's e-mail :) 02:05:16 <Celestar> hey Rubidium (= 02:05:32 <Celestar> that's an awful lot of work you guys went through didn't you? 02:05:50 <Rubidium> jup, but necessary 02:09:22 <Celestar> there's just one problem :) 02:09:27 <Celestar> it's minor tho :P 02:09:47 <Celestar> I'm lacking secure.openttd.org's certificate 02:10:06 <glx> do you need one? 02:10:14 <Rubidium> import cacert as root certificate 02:10:20 <Rubidium> then it should work 02:10:25 <Celestar> Rubidium: which cacert? 02:10:29 <Celestar> where is it? ;) 02:10:39 <Rubidium> http://cacert.org/ <- that cacert 02:12:48 <Celestar> O_o 02:12:50 <Celestar> secure.openttd.org uses an invalid security certificate. 02:12:57 <Celestar> that's what my ff3 spits out 02:14:38 <Rubidium> so you ssl configuration misses the cacert certificate 02:15:09 <Celestar> firefox needed a restart after ca import O_o 02:16:05 *** Noetloj [~105Adam@5acb31ac.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: I lost my teddy, can I sleep with you instead? :(] 02:17:07 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 02:17:07 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:32 <Celestar> kleopatra imported it nicely 02:18:38 <Celestar> for secure mail access 02:19:22 <Celestar> Rubidium: any idea what the retransmission settings are on that smtp daemon? The outgoing mails are apparently not getting through our greylisting filter 02:19:53 <Rubidium> no, but retransmission is not done quickly 02:20:48 <Rubidium> looks like it took an hour for SmatZ's greylist server 02:20:53 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:38 <Celestar> ok 02:21:40 <Celestar> I'll wait 02:21:55 <Celestar> now if only peter1138 wouldn't shutdown his p00ter at night :P 02:26:10 <Celestar> ok yapp + cargodest totally owns (= 02:26:31 <glx> I can't compile cargodest 02:26:53 <glx> makedepend seems to not like boost 02:28:44 <Celestar> glx: makedepend? 02:29:06 <Celestar> methinks we should include boost in the source tree as svn:externals 02:29:42 <glx> makedepend does the same as all [DEPS] line in 1 command 02:37:44 <Celestar> I see 02:37:46 <Celestar> hm .. 02:37:55 <Celestar> I don't manage to desync yapp+cargodest (= 02:45:09 <glx> ok seems it doesn't like - in flags 02:45:29 <Celestar> what flags? 02:46:07 <glx> -I/usr/local/include/boost-1_35 02:46:57 <Celestar> eww 02:47:20 <Celestar> is that your distro's default installation path? 02:47:41 <glx> I just did make install for boost 02:48:13 <Celestar> heh 02:48:23 <glx> btw I fixed it by moving boost-1_35/boost to boost ;) 02:48:29 <Celestar> maybe you want to adjust the prefix to something sane, apparently the default is crap :P 02:48:39 <glx> that way no need to extra -I 02:49:36 <glx> compiled :) 02:50:29 *** welshdra-gone [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:52:59 <glx> hmm strange it compiled it as console app 02:53:05 <glx> maybe a boost effect 02:55:13 <glx> hmm LDFLAGS is empty 02:58:32 <Celestar> hm .. sometimes I make losses when delivering passengers :P 02:59:50 <Celestar> wtf? 03:00:04 <Celestar> I can build a trambit on a tile where another company already has one? 03:00:34 <glx> yes it's like a road 03:00:38 <hylje> think you can build roadbits on other companies' roads too 03:00:50 <Celestar> but it belongs to them then :P 03:07:23 <glx> ok LDFLAGS "problem" will be fixed with r13863 03:07:43 * glx slaps Bjarni 03:07:56 <Celestar> what happened? 03:08:14 <glx> he played with config.lib 03:08:21 <glx> @openttd commit 13863 03:08:22 <DorpsGek> glx: Commit by smatz :: r13863 trunk/config.lib (2008-07-28 23:10:26 UTC) 03:08:23 <DorpsGek> glx: -Fix (r13852): make the nightly compile again 03:08:36 <Celestar> that wasn't bjarni (= 03:08:49 <glx> @openttd commit 13852 03:08:50 <DorpsGek> glx: Commit by bjarni :: r13852 /trunk (config.lib src/unix.cpp) (2008-07-27 20:43:21 UTC) 03:08:51 <DorpsGek> glx: -Fix (r13849): [OSX] fixed universal binary building without breaking anything this time 03:08:57 <glx> that was :) 03:09:54 <glx> anyway win32 compiles (just not static nor GUI mode) 03:10:10 <Celestar> :( 03:11:05 <glx> not being GUI mode just means there's always a console window (even for release builds) so not important for now :) 03:11:46 <glx> but the non static part can be a problem 03:12:02 <glx> anyway it's fixed in trunk 03:12:07 <glx> it just need a sync 03:18:23 <glx> hmm mail wants to go to passenger stops 03:20:17 <Celestar> yeah 03:20:30 <Celestar> the destination generation doesn't take acceptance into account yet 03:20:46 <Celestar> I'm planning to do that tomorrow morning 03:20:52 <Celestar> (in about 4 hours :P) 03:26:14 <glx> the graph is always drawn on the map 03:27:21 <Celestar> yeah 03:27:37 <Celestar> afaik peter1138 is planning to add an individual button for it 03:28:08 <glx> sometimes station window is half refreshed 03:28:26 <Celestar> you mean not really refreshed 03:28:36 <Celestar> dunno what happens there 03:29:03 <glx> happens when a long string is replaced with a short one 03:29:32 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29:41 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 03:30:38 <glx> anyway it seems to work well :) 03:30:46 <Celestar> :D 03:31:22 <glx> my buses lose money but that's normal (very short trip in town) 03:32:30 <Celestar> yeah but the payment is totally fux0red 03:33:34 <glx> and A-B, A-C, A-D bus lines are not optimal for money 03:34:04 <glx> as every passengers should transfer at A 03:38:04 <Celestar> you should have a shitload of passengers by now :P 03:38:33 <glx> not that much 03:38:43 <glx> very small network 03:38:50 <Celestar> just wait (= 03:39:12 <glx> but I added truck stop to all bus stop (for mail) 03:42:19 <Celestar> still no desync \o( 03:43:02 <glx> hmm circular line doesn't work well 03:43:32 <glx> they don't take mail if it's not for the next station in the loop 03:44:05 <Celestar> huh? 03:44:11 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: belugas * r13907 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Replace a number with Colours enum on DrawFrameRect usage 03:44:23 <Celestar> they should, they just take the shortest route 03:45:13 <glx> my mail trucks all do A->B->C->D 03:45:49 <glx> there's mail in B for D or A but they never take it 03:45:59 <Celestar> because they take other stuff? 03:46:03 <glx> no 03:46:10 <glx> they are empty 03:46:39 <Celestar> heh .. show peter1138 or me (past-10:00) the savegame :) 03:47:01 <glx> I'll put the save on my dev space 03:48:36 <Celestar> ok then you need to manually poke peter1138 or me to it (= 03:48:51 <Celestar> or you give the debugging a try yourself 03:49:02 <glx> not now 03:49:08 <glx> I'm heading to my bed :) 03:49:11 <Celestar> most the stuff is in cargopacket.cpp and routing.cpp/routing.h 03:50:36 <Celestar> peter1138: I just noticed that there's a stray <map> include in routing.h .. we don't really need it anymore 03:50:56 <Celestar> peter1138: it was just an attempt to make a manual vertex<->StationID mapping 03:51:48 <glx> Celestar: http://devs.openttd.org/~glx/mail_loop_bug.sav 03:53:48 <Celestar> glx: standby looking 03:54:56 <glx> Tunston East is a good example 03:55:52 <Celestar> glx: gotta recompile, wait (I still have yapp merged into it) 03:56:04 <Celestar> I'm already with "n" 03:56:05 <glx> doesn't matter for trucks 03:56:21 <Celestar> heh, but it can't load the savegame :P 03:56:29 <Celestar> messed up the saveload revisions 03:56:38 <glx> of course 03:57:02 <glx> hmm already 6AM, I should go to sleep 03:57:15 <Celestar> he 6am here too 03:57:22 <Celestar> I'm going to work in an hour :P 03:57:34 <Celestar> couldn't sleep this night 03:57:37 <Celestar> (got about 3 hours) 03:57:44 <glx> heat? 03:57:57 <Celestar> dunno 03:58:08 <Celestar> I'm pretty heat-resistant normally 03:58:15 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: Yexo, jordi, Prof_Frink, Mark, fmauNekAway, planetmaker, Rexxars, tneo, jni, valhallasw, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 03:58:24 <Celestar> up to 30°C in my sleeping room is a non-issue 03:58:44 <glx> then it's paxdest ;) 03:59:14 <Celestar> yeah :D 03:59:21 * Celestar looks at Tunston East 03:59:57 * glx goes to sleep 04:00:07 <glx> bye 04:00:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:03:04 *** Netsplit over, joins: +tokai, fmauNekAway, Rexxars, Mark, jordi, Prof_Frink, Yexo, tneo, planetmaker, valhallasw (+1 more) 04:08:48 <Celestar> peter1138: http://devs.openttd.org/~glx/mail_loop_bug.sav <= check this out. apparently we either need to make the routing system cargo-type aware or make one routing table per cargo type 04:09:04 <Celestar> (I'd suggest the latter) 04:12:17 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 04:12:17 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15:06 <Celestar> peter1138: summary what we have to do :) http://www.fvfischer.de/TODO 04:17:36 <Suisse> deliver cargo only to stations that accept the cargo type 04:17:37 <Suisse> hum 04:17:57 <Suisse> what abouts unload :P? 04:17:59 <Celestar> peter1138: http://www.fvfischer.de/repairdebug.diff 04:18:18 <Celestar> Suisse: unloads are ok, but we shouldn't generate cargo for destinations that don't accept that type 04:18:36 <Suisse> a oups :p 04:19:54 <Celestar> reload th efile :D 04:30:53 *** Forked [kjs@termstua.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:39:05 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051072254.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 04:39:24 *** Forked [kjs@termstua.com] has joined #openttd 04:49:38 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 04:49:38 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:55:10 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0EBFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 04:58:54 <Celestar> oh dear 05:02:13 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/TODO <= getting longer and longer :P 05:04:57 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 05:04:59 *** DJNekkid_ is now known as DJNekkid 05:13:39 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 05:25:22 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:00:03 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad34870.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 06:10:57 <Celestar> peter1138: can you poke me when you're awake? thanks 06:12:49 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:32:47 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 06:32:47 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33:06 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-98.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:41:49 <peter1138> Celestar: Poke. 06:43:24 <Celestar> :D 06:44:11 <Celestar> peter1138: I've some good news and some bad news :P 06:45:32 <Celestar> peter1138: I've played the game for 30 years in multiplayer with multiple companies and saves/leaves/joins and there wasn't a single problem with dests 06:46:49 <Celestar> peter1138: then I have a few diffs, and tried to compile a TODO list 06:48:03 <Celestar> wanna see it? :D 06:51:09 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@*.rev.numericable.fr] by peter1138 06:51:54 <Celestar> heh :P 06:54:31 <Celestar> oh you have merged from trunk 06:55:01 <peter1138> Yeah, I saw the TODO, and the scroll back ;) 06:55:25 <peter1138> Figured out the mail loop problem? 06:56:39 <Celestar> yeah 06:56:49 <Celestar> pretty simple 06:56:58 <Celestar> the route it tries to take is made for buses 06:57:04 <Celestar> so it waits for a vehicle that never comes 06:57:06 <peter1138> *nod* 06:57:21 <Celestar> so we need cargotype-aware routing I guess (see TODO) 06:57:45 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:53 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:00:36 <Celestar> peter1138: the question is: in what order do we tackle those points? 07:00:47 <peter1138> Simplest ;) 07:00:58 <Celestar> simplest first? 07:00:59 <peter1138> Also Bjarni added *refit orders* as while ago ... 07:01:20 <peter1138> So cargo type can change mid-route. 07:01:49 <Celestar> I'd say we're covering them as much as we're convering conditional orders for the time being .. 07:03:19 <peter1138> 3) Update the station view window when cargo is delivered to the station for automatic transfer 07:03:22 <peter1138> > 07:03:23 <peter1138> if (result > 0) InvalidateWindow(WC_STATION_VIEW, last_visited); 07:03:45 <peter1138> Or 07:03:49 <peter1138> change result to a bool 07:04:05 <peter1138> I shall do that. 07:04:33 <peter1138> And rename it refresh 07:07:59 <peter1138> Oh, I've got a loop :o 07:08:05 <Celestar> ? 07:08:15 <ccfreak2k> result > FALSE? 07:08:59 <peter1138> Oh, the loop was elsewhere :D 07:10:32 <Celestar> peter1138: do we want to add the TODO file to the repo? 07:10:47 <peter1138> Can do 07:11:52 *** ln_ [~lanurm@castor.utu.fi] has joined #openttd 07:12:20 <Celestar> peter1138: how's this? http://www.fvfischer.de/console.png 07:12:48 <peter1138> Hmm, is that necessary? 07:12:52 <Celestar> dunno :P 07:12:59 <Celestar> it came to my mind at 4am in the morning :P 07:13:16 <Celestar> it could find routes ^^ 07:13:29 <ccfreak2k> It would be interesting to export the data and make web reports out of them for game servers. 07:13:42 <Celestar> ccfreak2k: HEH :D 07:13:44 *** ln [~lanurm@castor.utu.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:13:48 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:13:55 <Celestar> ccfreak2k: it's a shitload of data, really ;) 07:14:16 <ccfreak2k> You would just have to crunch the numbers every 10 minutes or so. 07:16:52 <ccfreak2k> if (a&&b) { foo(); } 07:16:57 <ccfreak2k> foo() is called only if a and b are true, right? 07:17:03 <Celestar> ccfreak2k: yes 07:17:10 <Celestar> a is checked first 07:17:16 <Celestar> if it is false, b is not evlauated 07:18:15 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:18:15 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest677 07:18:15 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 07:22:32 <Celestar> peter1138: I dunno what is up with payments. sometimes they're even < 0 07:22:47 <ccfreak2k> What. 07:22:56 <ccfreak2k> How can a payment be less than zero? Unless it's negative... 07:23:11 <ccfreak2k> Actally, that can happen IIRC. 07:23:18 <ccfreak2k> Where it costs to deliver something. 07:25:04 *** Guest677 [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:25:41 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:26:17 <peter1138> That can happen with transfers 07:26:25 <valhallasw> let's implement illegal dumping spots then! ;) 07:26:35 <ccfreak2k> It's happened to me with just regular unloading. 07:26:46 <ccfreak2k> A train will arrive and unload, and it ends up costing me. D: 07:26:57 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:26:58 <peter1138> Yeah, took you too long :p 07:27:24 <valhallasw> still, it shouldn't *cost* you to deliver 07:27:31 <valhallasw> not with regular cargo anyway 07:27:38 <valhallasw> maybe with passengers or mail or sth ;) 07:27:43 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [] 07:29:11 <Ammler> can it cost more then you already earned? 07:29:17 <Ammler> morning btw. :-) 07:32:29 <peter1138> Hmm, showing only where cargo is destined is quite useful, instead of every en-route from line... 07:32:40 <peter1138> en-route from actually becomes quite useless... 07:32:57 *** GoneWacko [~foo@adsl-58.35.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 07:34:22 <Celestar> peter1138: and maybe only the nexthop 07:34:26 <Celestar> to group stuff 07:34:50 <peter1138> Hmm, that requires more effort ;) 07:35:15 <peter1138> But okay, we can cycle between showing everything, showing destinations, showing nexthop... 07:35:41 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:35:57 <peter1138> Next transfer is more useful, but do we know that in advance? 07:36:31 <Celestar> FindNextHop 07:36:46 <Celestar> unless the routing network changes, it always returns the same result 07:38:14 <peter1138> Okay 07:42:56 <Celestar> peter1138: we could allow the user to add manual routes via the console :P 07:44:57 <peter1138> Sounds... odd. 07:45:23 <peter1138> Now, how to switch between different view modes... 07:45:25 <Celestar> peter1138: yeah :) 07:45:32 <Celestar> peter1138: http://www.fvfischer.de/console.diff <= should we use it or not? 07:45:34 <peter1138> Patch option, button in the window, random click somewhere...? 07:45:47 <Celestar> what view modes? station view window? 07:45:52 <peter1138> Yeah 07:46:00 <peter1138> Show all, show destinations, show next hop 07:46:03 <Celestar> maybe another icon next to the "+" ? 07:46:26 <Celestar> or by clicking on the "main line" 07:46:34 <peter1138> main line? 07:46:38 <Celestar> oh this is openttd, we need to use CTRL :P 07:46:43 <peter1138> haha 07:46:47 <Celestar> CTRL+click the "+" ? 07:46:49 <Celestar> :D 07:47:32 <peter1138> Actually the whole line is clickable, that's just there so you know it's expandable. 07:47:39 <peter1138> So CTRL-click will cycle for now :) 07:47:43 <Celestar> HEH 07:47:54 <Celestar> added 38 changesets with 103 changes to 90 files 07:47:57 <Celestar> woohoo 07:47:59 <Celestar> I smell a recompile 07:48:10 <peter1138> Yup 07:48:30 <peter1138> Actually the view mode is not per cargo type... hmm 07:51:38 <Celestar> peter1138: so do we allocate 32 Routing classes? 07:51:44 <Celestar> peter1138: or only per request? 07:52:50 <peter1138> How big is an empty routing c... oh, it'll still have the vertexes. 07:53:20 <Celestar> yeah 07:53:22 <Celestar> about that size 07:53:39 <Celestar> we *COULD* only add the vertex if cargo is delivered to the station 07:54:04 <Celestar> however, compared the hopcache, the rest of the class is totally tinyish. and the hopcache is only made on request 07:54:39 <Celestar> we could allocate it on request per on game start/load, depending on number of cargos in game and which cargos actually use destinations 07:54:52 <peter1138> Well, we can at least not do it if the cargo type is invalid. 07:55:03 <peter1138> And that, yeah 07:55:14 <peter1138> View modes added :D 07:55:17 <Celestar> cool 07:55:18 <Celestar> :D 07:55:21 * Celestar goes looking 07:55:50 <Celestar> MEH can't load my savegame :P 07:57:14 <Celestar> peter1138: /home/vici/openttd-peter/src/station_gui.cpp:820: error: âSTR_GOING_VIAâ was not declared in this scope 07:57:33 <peter1138> Poo 07:57:52 <Celestar> and you can tick the item off the list :D 07:58:20 <Celestar> at least 7b) 07:58:26 <peter1138> Yup 07:58:57 <Celestar> heh. do we do an std::vector<Routing_t> ? :D 08:02:43 <Celestar> heh .. where are the cargotype initialized :P 08:04:10 <peter1138> cargotype.cpp 08:04:28 <peter1138> Hmm, but... 08:04:45 <peter1138> They're modified after that initialization, of course 08:05:09 <peter1138> Hmm, maybe this per station window option is wrong 08:10:40 <Celestar> peter1138: http://www.fvfischer.de/cleanup.diff <= is that better? 08:11:43 <peter1138> Yes. 08:11:50 <peter1138> Apart from Initlalized :D 08:12:28 <Celestar> well you may fix that :P 08:12:32 <peter1138> Am doing 08:12:43 <Celestar> cool 08:13:17 <Celestar> methinks we first should have the difficulty settings and then add the multiple Routings 08:13:31 <peter1138> Also I'm moving Routing to routing.cpp 08:13:45 <Celestar> er .. I didn't? sorry. 08:13:55 <Celestar> meant to do that :P 08:15:55 <peter1138> Via is most useful. 08:16:19 <peter1138> You can see instantly which route segment may need attention. 08:16:39 <Celestar> that's what I thought :D 08:16:44 <Celestar> hence the suggestion 08:16:52 <Celestar> otherwise in a multi-hop network you have NO idea what's going on 08:16:53 <peter1138> I've got 900 passengers all waiting to use one of two buses which can carry 8 passengers each. 08:17:04 <Celestar> except "there's a shitload of passengers hanging around" 08:17:22 <ccfreak2k> Loiterers! 08:17:37 <Celestar> lol 08:17:40 <Celestar> so ... 08:17:45 <peter1138> And they go 15mph... 08:17:57 <Celestar> what do others think about the option to analyse the routing network via console. need or no need? 08:18:13 *** ln_ is now known as ln 08:18:42 <peter1138> I think with the small map improved, it shouldn't be necessary 08:18:52 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:04 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:19:07 <peter1138> But you've done it now :p 08:19:17 <Celestar> yeah, I have. SORRY :P 08:19:18 <peter1138> Celestar, think this station cargo view mode should be a patch option? 08:19:29 <Celestar> instead of CTRL+Click? 08:19:31 <peter1138> Yes 08:19:40 <peter1138> It's annoying as it's not persistent. 08:20:00 <Celestar> maybe the default view mode should be a patch option, but we keep the CTRL? 08:20:10 <Celestar> and the default of the default is go-via :P 08:20:10 <peter1138> Hmm, okay. 08:20:18 <peter1138> Best of both worlds ;) 08:20:24 <Celestar> exactly (= 08:20:25 <peter1138> That doesn't matter, you can change it :) 08:20:32 <Celestar> HRHR 08:20:54 <Celestar> in station_cmd.cpp:2734, why is that commented out? 08:21:25 <peter1138> It's not in my version 08:21:36 <peter1138> Well, it's not in the loop 08:21:46 <peter1138> That causes lockups 08:21:55 <Celestar> ahhhh 08:22:09 <peter1138> Hmm, is this a station setting or an interface setting? 08:22:18 <peter1138> (Answers of 'both' are not acceptable) 08:22:54 <Celestar> interface imho 08:22:58 <peter1138> Ok 08:23:08 <Celestar> station settings is something that influences the behaviour of a station 08:24:03 <Alberth> peter1138: You could use 'xor' next time :) 08:24:45 <Celestar> peter1138: how do we call a cargo type that has destinations? Destinationized? 08:25:01 <peter1138> Hmm, the patches system has changed a lot since I last did it. 08:25:23 <peter1138> Err, "has destinations" 08:25:40 <Celestar> purposeful? 08:25:41 <Celestar> :P 08:25:52 <Celestar> but IsHasDestinations sounds stupid :P 08:26:11 <Tefad> ... 08:26:14 <Alberth> targeted? 08:26:53 <Alberth> or 'with destination'? 08:27:01 <peter1138> -Is then 08:28:15 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57DEC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:30:28 <Celestar> targeted? YEAH YEAH! I HAVE THE GOODS LOCKED. FIRE 08:30:29 <Celestar> :P 08:31:46 <ln> anyone at Assembly? 08:31:50 <ln> (i'm not) 08:32:39 <Celestar> ln: ? 08:33:14 <ln> http://www.assembly.org/summer08/assembly-1?set_language=en 08:34:11 <Celestar> no ln 08:34:36 <ln> i could guess that from the '?' 08:37:04 <Alberth> Celestar: GOODS DELIVERED SIRR! 08:37:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 08:39:05 <Celestar> peter1138: RFC: http://www.fvfischer.de/accept.diff 08:39:38 <Celestar> that would be 1c, except the sub-item (which we still have to deal with) 08:48:03 *** fmauNekAway is now known as fmauNeko 08:48:28 <fmauNeko> plaupe :) 08:49:05 <ln> away nicks = bad 08:49:25 <peter1138> Celestar: looking. Patch option is in :D 08:49:45 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F57DEC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:11 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77275.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:50:15 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57DEC.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:50:15 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77275.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50:30 <Celestar> cool 08:50:56 <Celestar> awesome 08:52:25 *** curson [~curzon@79-68-37-51.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:53:23 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:55:52 * Celestar sits back and thinks 08:57:59 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:00:14 <Noldo> about what? 09:02:00 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:02:00 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:02:40 <Celestar> how to proceed with paxdest 09:03:39 <Celestar> peter1138: what item are you on at the moment? 09:04:33 <peter1138> Getting dressed to go out. 09:04:39 <Celestar> pity :( 09:04:51 <Celestar> I'll clone your mercurial for the moment 09:04:58 <Celestar> all commits I do are locally, right? 09:05:07 <Celestar> so you could pull them one-by-one and have a look? 09:05:10 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.55.244] has joined #openttd 09:05:47 <peter1138> I think you can push them, but I don't know how that works with authorisation and wotnot 09:05:58 <Celestar> yeah :( 09:06:02 <Celestar> how long will you be out? 09:06:10 <peter1138> Hour or so. 09:06:15 <Celestar> k 09:07:50 <peter1138> Ta ra 09:08:03 <Celestar> hm? 09:11:39 <Celestar> are the destinations difficulty or patch setting? 09:13:52 <Vikthor> Celestar: I believe in difficulty settings are only the TTD original settings 09:14:37 <Vikthor> all the new ones were added to patch settings 09:16:01 <Celestar> Vikthor: the last one has been added afaik 09:16:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> difficulty settings have been changed, like the "very few industries" one 09:16:33 * Vikthor starts openTTD to take a look 09:17:45 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13908 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: merge two tables into a single one (Alberth) 09:18:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> imho, the difficulty settings need a rework, like each setting gets a difficultuy factor, and the overall difficulty gets decided by geometric means 09:18:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> so not only the exact presets count as easy/medium/hard 09:19:07 <Vikthor> yeah, or for example build on slopes, it changes difficulty too 09:21:59 <Celestar> hehe. pulling a hg repo via gigE takes only a few secs :P 09:24:20 <dih> you nasty lil git :-P 09:26:13 <Celestar> hm .. can I recycle used patch settings strings? 09:26:18 <Celestar> or do they have to be consecutive? 09:26:56 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13909 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: use the same type before CmdBuildRailStation as it used in the command itself (Alberth) 09:27:10 <Rubidium> depending on how you intend to use them, yes and no 09:27:42 <Alberth> Nice to see that being committed 09:29:50 <Celestar> Rubidium: http://pastebin.com/m154b5278 <= this is what I have for pax, I want the same for mail ... 09:31:27 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FA02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:41 <Rubidium> doesn't look like you can do that right now 09:31:57 <Rubidium> though didn't you want to make it configurable for all cargo types? 09:32:07 <Celestar> no. 09:32:13 <Celestar> pax, mail, "armored", rest 09:32:51 <ln> http://www.astro.utu.fi/tuorla/eclipse2008/eclipse.jpg 09:34:52 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13910 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): -Document: string drawing related functions and types (Alberth) 09:35:38 <Noldo> ln: look, it's pacman 09:41:51 <Vikthor> ln: Lucky you, here, the covered part is far smaller 09:42:28 <ln> should be ~52% in a few minutes 09:44:01 <Vikthor> here the peak is now and it isn't more than 25% 09:44:44 <Celestar> here it's cloudy :P 09:46:32 <LilDood> Here its cloudy and we're suposed to get 12% coverage of the sun in about half an hour 09:47:06 <Vikthor> LilDood: Where are you? 09:47:35 <LilDood> Well the 12% is for England, i'm in the North so will probably get more 09:47:47 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:13 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:48:18 <Vikthor> aha 09:49:00 <LilDood> According to a picture i'm looking at we may get 30% 09:53:49 <Celestar> can I lock a patch setting so that it is not modified during run-time? 09:54:20 <ln> gaah, i still dislike the term "patch setting". 09:55:02 <Celestar> welcome to the club 09:55:46 <Rubidium> sounds really like nobody bothered renaming them in the GUI 09:55:53 <ln> let's decide a better term, and someone makes a commit -> problem solved 09:56:06 <ln> ETA: 10 min 09:56:13 <Vikthor> feature setting? 09:56:25 <Noldo> setting? 09:57:05 <Lachie> open setting? 09:57:06 <Lachie> xD 09:57:10 <ln> additional settings, advanced options, ... 09:57:31 <Lachie> geddit? 09:57:33 <Lachie> no? 09:57:38 <Lachie> I'll show myself the door. 09:57:58 <Rubidium> "couldn't be bothered to merge the three settings related windows so now we've got three with one that is stupidly named" ? 09:58:10 <Alberth> do we want to keep both orginal setting windows? 09:58:23 <ln> "world settings" even. 09:58:41 <Alberth> otherwise merging everything would be the best solution imho 09:59:29 <Celestar> GAHHH 09:59:36 <Celestar> what are the "S" and "MS" flags in the settings? 09:59:42 <Celestar> S is server right? 10:00:26 <Alberth> Rubidium: more likely an accumulation of 'I just add one small patch setting, and don't want to re-shuffle everything' :) 10:01:30 <Vikthor> Celestar: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/OpenTTDDevBlackBook/Patches/AddPatchOption 10:04:07 <Celestar> uh huh :D 10:07:59 <Celestar> we'll be running outta saveload revisions soon ^^ 10:10:14 <Celestar> I still don't have an option to lock patch settings during the game, right? 10:10:26 <Celestar> otoh, I just can ignore and changes made in-game 10:12:20 <Alberth> warn the user that the change is not allowed, and set it back 10:12:36 <Celestar> ok I have changed something in hg, how do I "upload" that change to my server? 10:12:50 <Celestar> push? 10:13:04 <dih> @seen Phoenix* 10:13:05 <DorpsGek> dih: Phoenix_the_II was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 42 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Phoenix_the_II> i got a sb live aswell :P 10:13:51 <Celestar> ssl required GAH 10:15:08 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-98.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:15:41 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-216.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:18:25 *** jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: gone] 10:24:09 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Take my advice. I don't use it anyway] 10:32:57 <Rubidium> Celestar: there is an option to disable changing patch settings 10:33:50 <Rubidium> Celestar: take a look at difficulty.terrain_type for example 10:35:41 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 10:36:01 <Celestar> Rubidium: let me see 10:36:46 <Celestar> Rubidium: will have a look at it 10:50:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-108-163.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:04 <Celestar> \o Brianetta 10:54:33 <Brianetta> o/ 10:55:14 <Brianetta> I've got this stupid tune stuck in my head. A waltz from the piano book I'm using to learn to play. 10:55:34 <Brianetta> "Alpine Tune" it's called 10:56:40 <Celestar> bah pushing 250GB of data over the network takes time 10:56:51 <Celestar> especially when it's so slow as today :S 10:57:24 <Rubidium> time that can be used for development 10:57:58 <Celestar> what do you think I'm doing ;) 10:58:24 <Rubidium> watching the flashy lights on the ginormous switch flashing? 10:59:10 <Rubidium> flash 10:59:34 <Celestar> er .. nope :P 10:59:36 <Rubidium> flash 10:59:42 <Rubidium> yes... it's really slow ;) 10:59:43 <Celestar> the switch is in the switch-room. 10:59:53 <Rubidium> doesn't that have cctv? 10:59:54 <Celestar> switch-room has about 35°C and 90dB(A) 11:02:35 <Rubidium> not that much difference with my room yesterday evening :( 11:04:32 <Forked> sounds a bit hot 11:05:42 <Rubidium> yup... and I couldn't open the doors/windows to let it cool down due to the heavy rain going almost horizontally :( 11:06:03 <Rubidium> and the thunderstorm made it 90 dB at times 11:06:16 <Forked> hopefully nothing starts to melt =p 11:07:05 <Rubidium> I did (almost) 11:15:51 <Brianetta> That bloody thunderstorm 11:15:54 <Brianetta> kept me awake 11:16:07 <Brianetta> *and* delayed my train to work by flooding a part of the line I wasn't intending to travel on. 11:17:00 <peter1138> Pom te pom 11:17:31 <Celestar> hey peter1138 11:17:40 <Celestar> peter1138: can you reach galadriel.td.mw.tum.de:8000 ? 11:18:15 <Phantasm> Forked: How is the cooling if it is 35 °C ? 11:18:29 <Phantasm> Erm Celestar ^ 11:19:01 <Celestar> Phantasm: ? 11:19:04 <Celestar> shitty 11:19:20 <peter1138> Yes 11:19:41 <Phantasm> Nonexistant or way too small? 11:19:48 <Celestar> peter1138: cool 11:19:58 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm working on making multiple routing networks now 11:20:29 <Celestar> peter1138: as you can see, I've added a few things (= 11:20:45 <Celestar> oh I haven't pushed everything :o 11:21:24 <Celestar> peter1138: reload :D 11:23:27 <Celestar> peter1138: any vehicle can only have a single cargo type, is that correct? 11:23:36 <peter1138> Yes 11:23:42 <Celestar> cool 11:23:56 <peter1138> Hence aircraft are two vehicles... 11:24:00 <peter1138> (At least) 11:24:06 <Phantasm> Heh. 11:27:05 <Brianetta> They carry the mail in the shadow or the blades, don't they? 11:27:19 <Rubidium> the shadow 11:27:36 <Brianetta> Can the blades carry stuff, or are they just vtol eyecandy? 11:27:54 <Rubidium> they can, but they don't at the moment 11:28:01 <Rubidium> and only helicopters have blades 11:28:07 <Brianetta> and do the blades have a shadow? (-: 11:28:17 <Rubidium> no 11:28:21 <Brianetta> passengers, mail, goods and valuables... 11:31:47 <Celestar> peter1138: this'll take an hour at least 11:32:52 *** fmauNeko is now known as fmauNekAway 11:34:20 <ln> fmauNekAway: nobody cares that you are away 11:35:59 <peter1138> Some say he eats horses for breakfasts, others say he has never been seen in the daytime... all we know is... he's away 11:36:14 <Celestar> peter1138: I only have about an hour left, so I'll give you what I have then (= 11:39:51 <peter1138> Hmm, how do i add these changes? :o 11:44:23 <Celestar> not sure :P 11:44:31 <Celestar> doing progress here on the multi-routing 11:52:08 <GoneWacko> what the heck, looking at my debugger with a breakpoint on TranslateXYToTileCoord, it returns x,y=5,7 for tile 0x0x0 11:52:15 <GoneWacko> How does that work? :O 12:00:55 <Celestar> WTH 12:01:05 <Rubidium> it returns a tile given a screen coordinate 12:02:01 <Rubidium> so depending on how the map is scrolled it'll return something completely different 12:02:23 <Rubidium> and I reckon that tile 5,7 is at screen coordinate 0,0 12:03:12 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:07:13 <peter1138> Celestar? 12:07:52 <GoneWacko> weird :o 12:10:04 <Celestar> peter1138: yes? 12:12:17 *** Nev [bleepy@5ad51a7e.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:17:57 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad34870.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:50 <Celestar> peter1138: *sigh* 12:26:09 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-514d7e3a.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:29:40 <Belugas> hello 12:30:57 <peter1138> Hm 12:32:09 <Celestar> âVehicle* Vehicle::nextâ is private 12:32:11 <Celestar> :o 12:32:21 <peter1138> Next() 12:34:11 <Celestar> hardly ever noticed that it was private (= 12:38:36 <Celestar> hg diff | wc -l 12:38:36 <Celestar> 954 12:38:39 <Celestar> MEH 12:39:33 <GoneWacko> Rubidium: 6,8 makes no sense to me there: http://pc.gonewacko.com/junk/makes_no_sense.jpg :) 12:40:31 <Rubidium> divide by 16 to get real tile indices 12:40:47 <Rubidium> you're at 6,8 of tile 0,0 12:41:20 <Rubidium> rotate the image 45 degrees counter clockwise and the 6,8 will make sense 12:43:05 <Celestar> er peter1138 12:43:28 <peter1138> What? 12:44:06 <Celestar> peter1138: it compiles 12:44:09 <Celestar> with multiple routing tables 12:44:13 <peter1138> but? 12:44:31 <Celestar> well.. segfault (= 12:47:26 * Celestar shoots himself for accidently calling a function recursively 12:48:26 <GoneWacko> Rubidium: aha! Thanks :) 12:52:19 <peter1138> Hehe 12:53:49 <Celestar> uuuugly 12:56:15 <Celestar> peter1138: have you used anything of the stuff I did? 12:56:28 <peter1138> No, my question still stands ;) 12:57:00 <peter1138> Oh 12:57:06 <peter1138> hg pull http://galadriel.td.mw.tum.de:8000/ 12:57:23 <peter1138> That was hilariously easily. 12:57:27 <peter1138> -il 12:58:06 <Celestar> meh how do I get the name of a cargo? 12:58:12 <Celestar> {CARGO} uses a quantity 12:58:49 <Rubidium> cargospec->name ? 12:59:06 <peter1138> Yes, just use {STRING} with cs->name as the param. 12:59:39 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:40 <peter1138> That one never got a 'pass the id' code because it's only used twice. Or something like that. 12:59:51 <Celestar> I see 13:00:30 <peter1138> Hmm, we bumped the savegame format twice, heh... 13:02:02 <Celestar> well *shrugs* 13:02:11 <Celestar> it's not trunk we can do a -- 13:03:14 * Celestar hates changing english.txt :P 13:04:13 *** Noetloj [~105Adam@5acb31ac.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 13:04:23 * Celestar has ugly code 13:04:33 <Celestar> I hate if (this == NULL) .. 13:06:23 <Alberth> replace with 'false' 13:06:35 <SmatZ> hehe 13:07:25 <Celestar> Alberth: unfortunately, not :( 13:08:08 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 13:09:43 <Celestar> peter1138: we'll need some wrappers 13:11:09 <Celestar> and I don't understand variadic functions :S 13:20:18 <peter1138> Avoid if you can ;) 13:20:59 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:20:59 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:59 <Celestar> DEBUG() is a variadic function :( 13:21:14 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:21:17 <Noldo> does that mean one with ... 13:21:21 <Celestar> yes 13:22:55 <Celestar> meh. need help 13:24:23 <Celestar> peter1138: it works. 13:24:32 <Celestar> peter1138: the cargotype-specific route network. 13:24:54 <Celestar> peter1138: but the debug output segfaults, than there's some uglyness and in the code (and bugs no doubt) 13:25:39 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r13911 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r13806): do not consider crashed train as waiting at signal, v->direction doesn't have to match track anyway 13:26:28 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:48 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:27:09 <peter1138> coolish 13:27:26 <Celestar> peter1138: wanna see a diff? :P 13:27:52 <peter1138> or commit :p 13:28:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8030E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:28:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Celestar> peter1138: how's this? http://www.fvfischer.de/console.png <- something like this might be interesting for noai 13:29:04 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:21 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:44 <Celestar> peter1138: ok wait 5 mins I need some food 13:29:49 <peter1138> Okay 13:29:49 <peter1138> well 13:29:51 <peter1138> I'm off out again 13:29:54 <peter1138> So... laters 13:30:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B800BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:30:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:30:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051084214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:30:49 <Celestar> peter1138: check my stuff later on, I'll leave mercurial running 13:30:54 *** Noetloj is now known as J_Taylor 13:32:19 *** J_Taylor is now known as Noetloj 13:37:42 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: http://www.fvfischer.de/multiroute.png 13:46:17 <Celestar> I don't the hell get this 13:47:31 <Noldo> what's the problem? 13:50:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> <ln> http://www.astro.utu.fi/tuorla/eclipse2008/eclipse.jpg <- that is definitely not the view i had... 13:53:06 <Celestar> Noldo: I've a function ROUTEDEBUG(int level, const char* msg, ...) that is suppose to call DEBUG() as we know it, after messing around with *msg a bit. I don't get the valist passed correctly :S 13:57:18 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:57:40 <Celestar> yo glx :D 14:00:02 <glx> hello 14:00:46 <Celestar> glx: I've fixed your problem on the cargodests (= 14:00:58 <glx> reading hg log :) 14:01:38 <Celestar> glx: it's not yet 14:01:44 <Celestar> glx: I managed to segfault DEBUG() :P 14:01:54 <glx> nice 14:02:06 <Celestar> I don't get this :S 14:02:33 <Celestar> s = va_arg(va, const char*); vsnprintf(messagebuffer, lengthof(messagebuffer), s, va); 14:02:38 <Celestar> how can this fail :S 14:03:47 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 14:04:44 <Celestar> dbg: [routing] [Passengers] :ￜￜu]ￜￜￜￜￜￜￜￜￜtￜￜÐ4$ï¿œyￜￜￜￜt& 14:04:48 <Celestar> great :S 14:06:18 <glx> I think you need va_start() too 14:06:39 <Celestar> I have one 14:07:41 <Celestar> glx: http://pastebin.com/m14126487 compare left side (debug.cpp) with right side (my code) 14:08:03 <Celestar> glx: when I set the called to use DEBUG instead of RDEBUG, it works without problems 14:08:37 <Alberth> Celestar: This is what you are looking for? http://paste.openttd.org/38986 14:09:42 <Celestar> Alberth: no, I want to re-use our debug code 14:10:19 <Alberth> Instead of printf() you can use the OpenTTD DEBUG 14:10:21 <Belugas> vonderfull... when the system tells you to Call Bank for Authorization,DO call the bank... Do not enter some random numbers ... 14:10:43 <SmatZ> hehe 14:11:21 <Celestar> Alberth: and I'm trying hard as hell to avoid macros 14:11:53 <Alberth> You like a challenge :) 14:12:13 <Celestar> no. I dislike macros 14:12:57 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 14:14:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://iwiwdsmi.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-use-args-and-kwargs-in-python.html <- :P 14:16:11 <Belugas> WE dislike macros :) 14:16:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> python has no macros :p 14:17:31 * Belugas cannot judge something that he does not know :) 14:21:40 <Celestar> GNAHH 14:30:21 <Celestar> 0x0817b99d in Routing_t::RDEBUG (this=0x8469498, level=2, dbg=0x8298faa "Setting cache dirty") at /home/vici/openttd-cargodest/src/routing.cpp:108 14:30:32 <Celestar> I don't even HAVE a va_list in that call that segfaults 14:32:34 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:53 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:38:11 <Celestar> glx: if you really want to have a look, use http://galadriel.td.mw.tum.de:8000 14:38:28 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:09 <Celestar> I've pushed everything up there 14:39:23 <Celestar> others: I'm grateful of every help you can give me with the probs in here 14:40:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:42:38 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 14:43:56 <glx> Celestar: I guess I can pull directly to my current hg 14:44:03 <DJNekkid> quick NFO question, if i want an engine to be available for unlimited time, should i set prop action0 04 to 0 or FF ? 14:44:41 <glx> hmm no I can't 14:44:49 <Celestar> glx: hg pull ...? 14:45:04 <glx> pulling from http://galadriel.td.mw.tum.de:8000 14:45:04 <glx> abort: error: 14:45:43 <Celestar> nice error message :P 14:46:16 <glx> and it gives empty page in ff3 14:46:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> right after "error: success" :p 14:46:28 <Celestar> lol 14:46:48 <SmatZ> Connection to host galadriel.td.mw.tum.de is broken. 14:46:54 <SmatZ> not that original :-/ 14:46:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> i get that also... 14:47:11 <Celestar> standby restarting server 14:48:06 <Celestar> try again plz 14:48:22 <glx> works 14:48:27 <glx> with hg and ff 14:49:01 <Celestar> cool 14:49:10 <Celestar> pipe shoud be fat enough 14:49:57 <SmatZ> fat? 14:50:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> shouldn't matter with my tiny garden hose... 14:50:15 <Celestar> hrhr 14:50:20 <Celestar> what's your downstream 14:50:33 <SmatZ> :-) 14:50:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> 384kbit 14:50:58 <glx> around 4Mb 14:51:12 <glx> (when TV is off) 14:51:13 <Celestar> around 10GBits ... but for the whole campus :P 14:51:45 <Celestar> but the server only has a 4Gbit connection to the switches (= 14:52:00 <SmatZ> that's the bottleneck :-P 14:52:05 <SmatZ> 4Gbit switches! 14:52:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's like you would try to land an A380 on the road in front of my house :p 14:52:22 <SmatZ> hehe 14:55:52 <glx> next hop only view is "strange" 14:56:35 <Celestar> but helpful 14:56:49 <glx> clicking on "+" just double the waiting cargo 14:57:29 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:57:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> how can i list all conflicted files with hg? 14:58:01 <Celestar> glx: control-click on the cargo list toggles the view 14:58:49 <glx> anyway "next hop" doesn't show what it should I think 14:59:01 <Celestar> ? 15:03:00 <glx> http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/station_all.png http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/station_destination_only.png http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/station_next_hop_only.png 15:03:58 <Celestar> glx: maybeI have messed it up with the recent commit 15:04:59 <DJNekkid> glx: is that some kind of new paxdest+ 15:05:45 <Celestar> DJNekkid: it's some kind of nearly finished paxdest that are network safe :) 15:05:56 <DJNekkid> bingo :) 15:06:15 <DJNekkid> an "official" right? from peter or something? 15:06:31 <Celestar> and me 15:06:36 <DJNekkid> i think i've seen him chattering about pax/cargo dest :) 15:06:47 <DJNekkid> yey! 15:07:04 <DJNekkid> i love paxdest :) 15:07:25 <Celestar> there are still several items on the todo list 15:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> is there a way to tune down passenger generation yet? 15:07:28 <DJNekkid> and hopefully will the 2cc set get finished when it is ... and that is a (pretty much) pax focused set :) 15:07:51 <glx> Celestar: my loop for mail works better now :) 15:07:53 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13912 /trunk/src/ (8 files): -Codechange: remove some casts by returning the proper type instead of void*. 15:08:18 <Celestar> glx: yeah 15:08:26 <Celestar> glx: open console, type "rn" 15:12:01 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:04 <glx> whatever I use for "rn le" it says "no routing system estabished for [...]" 15:12:05 * DJNekkid will be a happy camper when paxdest hits trunk 15:12:21 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:13:01 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host86-134-115-229.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:13:07 <Celestar> glx: have you activated it in the patch settings? :P 15:13:37 <glx> where? 15:13:42 <Celestar> "Economy" 15:13:55 <extspotter> hey, is there any way of putting towns close to the edge or near each other? 15:14:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i can't enable paxdest for my loaded game... 15:14:15 <SmatZ> extspotter: no 15:14:17 <glx> Celestar: "anywhere" and I can't change it 15:14:20 <extspotter> awwww 15:14:30 <Rubidium> extspotter: what is close? 15:14:33 <Celestar> glx: it's non changable at the moment 15:15:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is... non-optimal... 15:15:40 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: well I'm trying to come up with a solution ;) 15:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> what's "etc." in valuables? 15:15:53 <Celestar> Gold and Diamonds 15:16:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i'd rather have another option for "everything that gets accepted by towns" 15:16:58 <Celestar> oh I did forgot that :P 15:16:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> [goods, food, ...] 15:17:01 <Celestar> forget :P 15:17:33 <Ammler> newcargos? 15:17:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay, it segfaults if i set the destinations and then try to load a game :p 15:20:23 <Celestar> people start new games for the time being :P 15:21:10 <Ammler> openttd: /home/marcel/hg/cargodest/src/routing.cpp:428: StationID Routing_t::FindNextHop(StationID, StationID): Assertion `from != to' failed. 15:21:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> but new games do not have a network :p 15:21:46 <Ammler> ctrl-click on the destination in station list 15:21:59 <Celestar> Ammler: I see 15:22:06 <Ammler> oh 15:22:15 <Celestar> with the 32 routing networks, we need quite some more work I guess (= 15:22:26 <Ammler> but I have the hg repo from peter 15:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> why do we not have drag&drop in the newgrf window?! 15:22:46 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause2: newgrf gui has 15:22:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> i do know that :p 15:30:21 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-216.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 15:32:37 <Celestar> peter1138! need help! 15:35:09 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:36:56 *** GoneWacko [~foo@adsl-58.35.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [] 15:37:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... what about a city "promotion" feature... village->town->city->megacity, with option to turn nearby villages/towns into suburbs? in order for a village promoted to town it must have a serviced secondary industry, and to city it must get certain amounts of cargo per month? 15:37:47 *** fmauNekAway [~fmauNeko@thor.fmauneko.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:28 <glx> I like the way cargos are unloaded then reloaded 15:39:24 <Celestar> glx: hm? 15:40:03 <Celestar> they are? 15:40:11 <Celestar> but not if they stay on the same vehicle, right? 15:40:13 <glx> mail truck unloads everything before reloading, and it does it at each stop 15:41:53 <Celestar> it does? :o 15:41:59 <glx> hmm it doesn't always 15:43:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> gah.. setting up newgrfs on the title screen makes me insane... 15:45:30 <glx> vehicle 9 seems to do it every time 15:45:47 *** extspotter [~extspotte@host86-134-115-229.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 15:51:19 <Purno> Does OpenTTD got an option to disable the "Local Authority refuses..." message? 15:52:37 <Belugas> nope 15:53:29 <Purno> would I get flamed if I suggest it? 15:53:36 <Belugas> nope 15:53:44 <Purno> *heads to the suggestion forum* 15:53:48 <Noldo> you want to disable the message or the refusing? 15:54:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's a cheat ;) 15:54:11 <Belugas> suggesting is one thing :) accepting the suggestion is another one ;) 15:56:00 <Purno> Noldo , the refusing of course 15:56:50 <Celestar> it's possible 15:56:59 <Celestar> just activate the magic bulldozer 15:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> of course, bulldozing does not help you to build a station :p 15:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> but really, a separate cheat "ignore local authority" could come in handy 15:59:50 <Celestar> A Cheat, ok. 15:59:57 <Celestar> a feature, don't like it 16:00:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> afair the code has already checks for such stuff, but only in the scenario editor or something 16:00:36 <glx> hmm a station stoped to accept mail, that may be the cause 16:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... that german town names grf does not appear to have 3000 names in it :p# 16:04:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> why can't towns be called "Town #XYZ" like stations, if the name creation failed? 16:04:44 <Belugas> mmh.. a cheat.. yeah, i guess it can be done with a cheat... 16:04:48 * Belugas checks 16:05:12 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:45 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccbb.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:08:55 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:09:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... the thunder starts rolling... 16:10:34 <Celestar> not yet here 16:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm slightly north of you :p 16:13:52 <glx> hmm ok my mail trucks are doing weird things 16:14:01 * Rubidium wonders how long it'll take before you can be legally completely stripped of *anything* without seeing it back when entering the US 16:17:53 <Celestar> Rubidium: 4 more years 16:19:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> Rubidium: you mean like "the fibre in this t-shirt may be used to create bombs, you cannot keep that on"? 16:19:34 <Vikthor> Celestar: Do you accept bug reports for destinations? I'm getting SIGSEVs with changeset e2d1756e1031 16:20:20 <Rubidium> more like: we don't suspect you, but we may take it and send copies of it all around the country (copies of the data on your laptop) 16:20:55 <Rubidium> and they may keep it 'a reasonable time' 16:20:56 <Celestar> Vikthor: not yet, we still have a lot to fix, unless you have a clear idea what is going on 16:21:12 <Rubidium> well, what's reasonable to send it through all security related departments? 16:21:25 <Rubidium> a year per department? 16:21:35 <Vikthor> Celestar: No, I will wait then 16:21:39 <Brianetta> Rubidium: Encrypted? 16:22:06 <Rubidium> Brianetta: what encrypted? 16:22:15 <Brianetta> this hypothetical laptop 16:22:25 <Rubidium> oh, when encrypted probably longer ;) 16:22:27 <Brianetta> 'cause if it is, it's spending a couple of years at the NSA 16:22:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:44 <glx> I have a truck going from A to B transfering in continue mail for C to D (there's a connection between A and C) 16:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> why does the town list not say the total number of towns? 16:24:02 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:24:19 <Rubidium> because it didn't in ttd and nobody bothered about adding it? 16:25:09 <glx> Celestar: maybe this happens because the save was made when my mail loop didn't work 16:26:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> Rubidium: but it's not like i'm the first one to request this... 16:27:34 <peter1138> Celestar: bool handled_cargo[NUM_CARGO] -> uint32 handled_cargo <- bitmask 16:28:35 <Celestar> peter1138: why? 16:28:37 <peter1138> Celestar, I'd like to redo those changes in order_cmd.cpp 16:29:15 <Celestar> peter1138: redo? 16:29:33 <peter1138> Yeah, a slightly less duplicated way 16:29:34 <Celestar> peter1138: feel free. I was doing some proof of concept basically 16:29:48 <Celestar> peter1138: yeah ... read the TODO and the full commit message :D 16:30:45 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:31:35 <Celestar> peter1138: I was thinking of wrapper functions for the "Process" functions 16:32:06 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@dhcp-077-250-220-139.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:15 <Celestar> peter1138: are you going to import my stuff and modify it or start from scratch? 16:33:39 <peter1138> I've imported it 16:33:48 <peter1138> I'm doing the changes now. 16:34:08 <Celestar> got ANY idea why the RDEBUG fails? :( 16:35:26 *** Yexo__ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:35:26 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:24 *** Yexo__ is now known as Yexo 16:40:12 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@dhcp-077-250-220-139.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:17 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-108-163.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:41:39 <Belugas> town_cmd.cpp:2423 CheckIfAuthorityAllows(TileIndex tile) <-- just before "if (t->ratings[_current_player] > RATING_VERYPOOR) return true;", place a check for the cheat and i THINK it wold be good enough 16:42:12 <Celestar> peter1138: can you give me your URL again plz? 16:43:07 <glx> I started a new game 16:43:21 <glx> no mail nor passegers produced 16:44:24 <glx> something is not good 16:44:54 <Vikthor> Celestar: http://217.151.109.167:8000/ this one? (Not that I am peter though :p) 16:45:05 <Celestar> Vikthor: yep that one 16:45:38 *** Reemo [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0CD78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:11 <Celestar> glx: no worries, only minor errors :) 16:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> the new flyspray has a few alignment problems in konqueror... 16:59:16 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:13 <Belugas> in firefox too ^_^ 17:01:36 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-125-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:40 <Belugas> maybe it will prevent stupid bugs to be filed in ;) 17:03:13 <Celestar> hehe 17:03:36 <DaleStan> Belugas: -Fix: "true" is not a color. <--- Wow. Just wow. I don't want to know how that crept in. 17:04:01 <Belugas> hehe 17:04:13 <Belugas> ain't my fault, i merely fixed it :D 17:04:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host41-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:05:32 <Wolf01> hello 17:08:51 <Celestar> hey Wolf01 17:08:52 <peter1138> 17:41 +glx> no mail nor passegers produced 17:09:01 <Celestar> peter1138: any luck with my mess? :D 17:09:09 <peter1138> Possibly related to the station GUI not being right ;) 17:09:46 <glx> and maybe related to the strange behaviour of my mail trucks? 17:10:52 <Wolf01> I'm on holiday for two weeks, I'll use all my time to code something, playing with ottd/xbox and sleep :D 17:11:38 <Reemo> i don't understand the parameters for ecs, maybe someone could explain me what i have to type in... 17:11:41 * Belugas detects that Wolf01 has no wife nor kid :) 17:11:50 <peter1138> If FindNextHop() returns INVALID_STATION then the station cargo view would be messed up 17:11:54 <Wolf01> and a girlfriend too 17:12:00 <peter1138> and of course cargo would not go anywhere... 17:12:50 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41670.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:12:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:12:54 <peter1138> Hmm 17:13:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> what happened to the world where people went to the lake bathing during their holidays? 17:13:28 <Wolf01> Bjarni! 17:13:45 <Wolf01> tell me where are the lakes 17:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> maps.google.de 17:14:30 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: I thought that they were digging holes in the beaches 17:14:53 <Rubidium> and that they'll be shot if they do that now in the name of "terrorism prevention" 17:15:06 <Belugas> bathing is for whimps... DIVING! 17:16:22 <Wolf01> I think I'll go to the beach, ONE time 17:16:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> in germany, you may transport an air tank attached to a diving suit in the car, but you may not transport that same air tank without the diving suit, because it is dangerous cargo 17:16:33 <Celestar> fischer@andromeda:[/nfs/home/fischer/OpenFOAM/fischer-1.4.1/run]> uptime 7:16pm up 3 days 6:02, 3 users, load average: 30.75, 24.13, 14.51 17:16:36 <Celestar> :S 17:17:02 <peter1138> xNice 17:17:13 <Belugas> i agree that it is indeed, Eddi|zuHause2 17:17:33 <Belugas> basically, if you're not aware, it can be really dangerous 17:17:45 *** Dan [~Dan@cm-84.212.52.102.getinternet.no] has joined #openttd 17:17:54 <Belugas> although, a simple diver's card wold be enough, no need to carry a suit... 17:18:00 <Wolf01> about uptimes... I got windows uptime for 3 months and still work!!! 17:18:16 <Reemo> eddie in a car you're allowed to carry it - but not when you do this for money (if i know the adr right) 17:18:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> Belugas: the point is, the combination is a sports equipment, so lesser security rules apply 17:18:55 <Dan> Hi 17:19:26 <Dan> how do you start a server? 17:19:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> click on "start server" 17:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> in the multiplayer gui 17:19:46 <Wolf01> eheh 17:19:51 <Dan> Yes 17:20:11 <Dan> But no body see me if i start a server 17:20:18 <Dan> sees* 17:20:20 <glx> @openttd port 17:20:20 <DorpsGek> glx: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 17:20:27 *** Dan [~Dan@cm-84.212.52.102.getinternet.no] has quit [] 17:20:37 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause2, i thnk it's related to the knwoledge that comes with the ownership of the suit 17:21:15 <Belugas> can a user be banned if he does not say "thanks" ? 17:21:26 <Rubidium> that's a security "feature" that can be beaten for only 20 euros 17:21:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> the laws in germany are also very strict when the tank has increased oxygen ratio 17:21:53 <Belugas> granted :) 17:22:14 <Belugas> you need a special card to get your air refilled with such blends in here too 17:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> any tank with (even slightly) increased oxygen ratio has to be handled like it is pure oxygen 17:23:07 <Belugas> and should have stickers (big and visible) saying they are nitrox ones 17:23:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> but that's as far as my half-knowledge goes :p 17:23:29 <glx> what about fuel tank in the car? 17:23:33 <peter1138> Celestar: pull 17:23:44 <Rubidium> glx: that's not dangerous! 17:24:00 <Wolf01> we could implement this on ottd, you should carry at least two necessary cargos or the local authority which belong the industry will fine you :P 17:24:11 <Rubidium> neither is a lorry with the back end filled with an explosive concentration of natural gas 17:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: afaik the reserve fuel tank may not have fuel inside during "normal" operation 17:24:16 <Celestar> peter1138: pulling, but it takes time, server has load 32, and workstation has 3GB in swap :S 17:24:27 <Reemo> not in the tank - but the amount you're allowed to carry as reserves is limited 17:25:34 <peter1138> Celestar, well fine, but debug works now :p 17:26:08 <Celestar> peter1138: heh ... nice 17:26:09 <Belugas> natural gaz tanks do have a pressure around 250 PSI (iirc). Diving tanks will go as high as 3000 PSI, under normal use. So they are pertty much bombs 17:26:13 <Celestar> peter1138: what was it? 17:26:34 <peter1138> Wrong ;) 17:27:03 <Celestar> er ok :) 17:27:06 <Rubidium> Belugas: natural gas at explosive concentration does that too (if you introduce a spark in a strong enough container) 17:27:39 <Celestar> peter1138: the TODO list is not getting much shorter. I need to code faster :P 17:28:10 <Celestar> why I get get a server to its knees with 4 "cp" processes ?! 17:28:27 <Celestar> peter1138: what does CDECL do in the first place? 17:28:29 <Belugas> well... do the same with a 40% oxygen tank :) mainly, we're in for a lovely firework :) but agreed, all these devices are massively dangerous 17:28:40 <peter1138> Specifies the call convention. 17:29:18 <Belugas> somehow, tough, i guess the authorities care more about the pressure accidents than fire ones 17:29:52 * peter1138 grumbles a bit at MB. 17:30:25 <Celestar> MB? 17:30:31 <peter1138> Blunck 17:30:33 <Belugas> michael B 17:30:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> what did he do this time? 17:30:53 <peter1138> Seems to have decided that no-one else is allowed to make GRFs... 17:30:54 <Celestar> what does he have to do with cargodest? :P 17:31:57 <Wolf01> right, he invented them, at least the idea, so he must decide what to do... 17:32:31 <Celestar> meh 17:32:52 <Celestar> I just tried about a dozen times to unpause the game by typing "c<ENTER>" in the console :P 17:33:05 <Wolf01> he "painted" his screenshots ages before newgrfs were invented :D 17:33:08 * peter1138 goes to fix the station gui 17:33:28 <Celestar> peter1138: I have not yet done anything usable to the smallmap (it displays passenger routes only at the moment) 17:33:51 <peter1138> Fine 17:34:16 <Celestar> peter1138: do you basically concur with the idea to use an array of pointers for the routing system? 17:36:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcc01.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:54 <Celestar> BAH it takes 20 seconds to open the TODO file :S 17:37:12 <Wolf01> mmmh I *could* continue the brickland scenery 17:37:22 <Celestar> peter1138: will we allow to add destinations to existing games? 17:38:10 <Celestar> peter1138: because I have now specifically disabled the modification of these settings in game. We would have to allocate/deallocate the Routings[] if we want to do it in-game 17:38:49 <peter1138> If that's the only reason I think we should try to allow it. 17:39:18 <Celestar> it's the only reason up to now 17:40:54 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccbb.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new IRC era] 17:41:09 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.55.244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43:38 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: bjarni * r13913 /trunk/src/os/macosx/macos.h: -Fix (r13893): [OSX] fixed a warning about MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_5 not being defined on all systems 17:44:14 <peter1138> It's fear-bjarni-commit time :o 17:46:15 <Celestar> peter1138: we have our hg (= 17:48:51 *** curson [~curzon@79-68-37-51.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.] 17:50:05 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:51:10 <Reemo> someone coul dexplain me how to set the parameters for ecs? i don't understand what is described on http://wiki.ttdpatch.net 17:52:40 <Celestar> what is ecs? 17:52:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> Enhanced Cargo Scheme 17:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> [newindustries] 17:53:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> or Extended? 17:53:35 <Rubidium> more extremely complex 17:54:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe, too ;) 17:55:20 <Reemo> but it's annoying me that the ressources are limited...a coal mine with only 4k tons of coal... 17:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, then set the parameter to turn off the limit 17:56:22 <Reemo> Eddi|zuHause2 that's what i want to do - but i don't understand what i have to set as parameter... 17:57:00 <peter1138> In the NewGRF GUI there's a "Set parameters" button. 17:57:29 <Reemo> i have now set the parameter for the basic vectors to "11" but it seems not to work 17:57:40 <Forked> meep meep 17:58:31 <Wolf01> no roadrunners here 17:58:43 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.184.72] has joined #openttd 17:59:26 <Belugas> reemo, have you started a new game or just applied to the old one? 17:59:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> Reemo: maybe you want "1 1" instead? 17:59:41 <Reemo> applied to an old one 18:00:00 <Reemo> the first to set changing parameters on? 18:00:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> and you should not change industries during a game 18:00:07 <Belugas> try new one instead 18:00:21 <Belugas> and where are those paremeters defined (explained) on wiki? 18:00:36 <Reemo> 1. http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSBasicVector 18:00:44 <Reemo> 2. http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSVectorsGeneralInformation 18:01:30 <Reemo> that's what i found 18:02:03 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:02:03 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:04 <Belugas> for 1. you would indeed need to specify "1 1", depending on your choices. each parameter is standalon 18:02:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> so... set the first parameter to "0", and the second parameter to "2" 18:02:06 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-147-155-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 18:02:13 <Belugas> as for 2., it's different 18:03:04 <Reemo> as i understand i have to use "1 11" for what i want...but applying to an old game seems not to work --> trying a new one 18:03:05 <Belugas> there is only one parameter, but all the possiblities are coded as bits 18:03:18 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:04:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> 11 = 1+2+8, so bits for storage size, mine exhaustion, and industry closure are set 18:04:58 <Reemo> ok Belugas and when i want what is at the second explained as "he should put value 11" what i have to type in the parameters window? 18:05:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> "1 11" is a valid parameter... 18:06:03 *** Nev is now known as bleepy 18:06:11 <Reemo> the first 1 for activating? and the second for setting the parameters? 18:06:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> or "1, 11" is also possible 18:06:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, the first parameter is for the valuables 18:06:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the second parameter for the mines 18:06:52 <Reemo> Eddi|zuHause2 what are valuables (i'm german too) 18:07:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSBasicVector <- that clearly says it, first parameter specifies valuables vs. gold 18:07:24 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> and second parameter sets industry behaviour 18:07:42 <Reemo> ahh ok dict.leo.org helps me out 18:07:44 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:07:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> you cannot set the second parameter without setting the first parameter 18:08:23 <Reemo> ok, then i have to set both - with a new game... 18:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> set the first parameter to 0 if you want the default behaviour 18:09:01 <Reemo> may i stay here when i say "thanks"? ;) 18:09:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> and valuables is what banks produce in temperate 18:09:12 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, saying "thanks" means you must leave within the next 20 seconds 18:09:26 *** DJNekkid_ is now known as DJNekkid 18:09:28 <Reemo> *bg* 18:11:25 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:41 * peter1138 continues playing his cargodest game 18:11:56 <Celestar> peter1138: I have some preliminary patch that gives you the option to start/stop the the destinations in-game. want it= 18:12:09 <peter1138> Damn those picky passengers! 18:12:52 <Celestar> peter1138: I just haven't tested it too well. it doesn't crash however 18:14:20 <peter1138> I shall test it 18:14:54 <Celestar> hm .. the vertices are added. The orders are not :S 18:18:08 <Celestar> peter1138: I'll add it to my hg in a few minutes. you can pull it there 18:18:15 <Celestar> (I'll need to head out for the rest of the day) 18:25:45 <Celestar> peter1138: push complete, cu lyter 18:25:46 <Celestar> later* 18:25:51 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:25:53 *** DJNekkid_ is now known as DJNekkid 18:28:08 *** welshdragon2` [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:28:29 <Reemo> ~600 tons of coal left - then i know what happens when you add the parameters to a running game...in the new one it seems to work now 18:29:42 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:29:48 <Belugas> always been the case, Reemo 18:30:21 <Belugas> when playing with grfs, never change them midgames 18:30:33 <Belugas> unless adviced otherwise, of course 18:30:47 <Belugas> big red warning says so :) 18:31:27 *** DJNekkid__ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:31:29 <Reemo> hm...you mean that big red sign... 18:31:40 <peter1138> The one you read, right? 18:31:50 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:54 *** DJNekkid__ is now known as DJNekkid 18:31:54 <Reemo> i saw it, but warnings? ...no risk no fun ;) 18:33:23 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:58 <Reemo> is there any option to tell the trucks and busses to look more often if the slot they went to is free? and if not that they choose a new one if available? 18:35:01 <Belugas> where's the fun when your system is ruined? 18:35:19 <Belugas> no, as far as i know, there is not such an option 18:35:59 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:34 <Reemo> system ruined? *changing paramters back* 18:37:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> Reemo: multistop distribution does not work correctly for drive-through stations 18:37:51 <Belugas> [14:37] <Reemo> system ruined? *changing paramters back* <--- too late :D 18:38:00 <Reemo> hehe 18:38:25 <Reemo> 0 tons coal left - but it still producing 18:40:15 <Reemo> you're my heroes - helping me waste my time with a game i played when i was a young boy (in the last century) 18:40:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> last milennium even! 18:41:52 <Reemo> yes, i've meant millenuim... *grml* i'm really old... 18:43:52 <Belugas> yeah right... 18:43:56 <Belugas> try to beat me :) 18:44:51 <Reemo> <-- made 1977 18:46:27 <Belugas> 1964 18:46:28 <Belugas> hehehe 18:46:30 <Belugas> gatcha! 18:46:54 <Reemo> ok, now i feel better/younger 18:47:03 <Reemo> thank you :P 18:48:08 <Belugas> hehe 18:50:02 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:50:27 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: bjarni * r13914 /branches/0.6/config.lib: 18:50:27 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 18:50:27 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: - Fix: allow OSX 10.5 to build universal binaries (r13849, r13852, r13863, r13892) 18:50:47 <Suisse> and what happens if I say 1989 :]? 18:51:27 *** welshdragon2` is now known as welshdragon 18:52:16 <SmatZ> nothing :) 18:52:23 <Suisse> ho :( 18:52:29 <Belugas> yes, Welcome to the club 18:52:43 <Belugas> and bring me some cheese :D 18:52:44 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051084214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:45 <SmatZ> hehe 18:52:51 <Suisse> ^^' 18:52:55 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051084214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:41 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:55:54 *** davis- [~asd@dtmd-4db2258b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 18:55:58 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:56:37 <Belugas> either way, it's not the age that counts, but the brain 18:57:08 <Belugas> I may be the oldest of the devs, but by far not the smartest 18:57:14 <Belugas> and not afraid to say so :) 18:57:19 <Reemo> brain? you mean the one i've forgotten at the supermarket last week? or was it two weeks ago? 18:57:19 <davis-> :o 18:58:17 *** welshdragon [~welshxcha@host86-137-37-42.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:59:09 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.184.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:37 *** welshdragon is now known as welshdra-gone 19:03:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> 4) Repair payments, it seems totally fucked up <-- apart from a general fucked-up-ness that i cannot judge, cargo that spends a long time transferring at stations will generate negative final income 19:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> so reducing the amount of passengers generated, so stations do not overfill that easily, will probably improve payments 19:05:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> also, transferring tends to favour the first vehicle in the chain, because it does not consider possible waiting times when calculating the transfer credit 19:06:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> but those are issues that are quite unrelated to cargo destinations 19:08:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> the old patch "solved" the transfer issues by directly paying partial trips, not using transfer at all 19:09:20 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.184.72] has joined #openttd 19:09:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> besides, using transfer credit will get in the way with any possible infrastructure sharing 19:11:33 <Belugas> transfering credits, that's a job for Peter and I 19:11:35 <Belugas> ho ho ho 19:11:47 <Belugas> even more when using cards 19:11:52 <Belugas> ha ha ha 19:12:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... yes... 19:20:36 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13915 /branches/0.6/ (19 files in 5 dirs): 19:20:36 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:20:36 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: - Update: translations. 19:20:36 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: - Fix: Custom vehicle names from TTD(Patch) games were lost (r13884) 19:32:29 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.184.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:27 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13916 /branches/0.6/src/oldloader.cpp: [0.6] -Fix: backport added a free too much. 19:38:13 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-108-163.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:39 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.184.72] has joined #openttd 19:54:07 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-125-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 20:11:19 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051081188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:37 *** welshdra-gone is now known as welshdragon 20:15:14 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051084214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:25 *** Noetloj [~105Adam@5acb31ac.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:25 <Celestar> back for a bit 20:19:47 <Celestar> peter1138: how is it? :D 20:20:11 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Say What?] 20:20:35 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051081188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:46 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:22:46 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:14 *** Noetloj [~105Adam@5ad420eb.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:26:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> Celestar: read my comments above? 20:28:25 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.55.244] has joined #openttd 20:28:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> hmz... did not change category... 20:30:47 <Celestar> peter1138: another small update 20:30:59 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: will do. 20:31:00 <Celestar> good night 20:31:21 *** ecke [~ecke@21.161.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:38:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-108-163.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 20:39:45 <peter1138> Hmm 20:40:33 <peter1138> I need an icon for selecting the route network smallmap view... 20:41:05 <Belugas> who you gonna call? SKIDDL13! 20:41:21 <SmatZ> skidd13 is a nice icon 20:41:48 <Belugas> ***maker*** 20:41:51 <Belugas> hehe 20:42:07 <SmatZ> hehe 20:48:06 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.55.244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:09 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.55.244] has joined #openttd 20:50:14 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.55.244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:41 *** Noetloj [~105Adam@5ad420eb.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:15 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-514d7e3a.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:19 <Wolf01> 'night 21:04:25 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host41-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:05:50 <Bjarni> 'day 21:08:07 <ln> 'fortnight 21:21:47 <davis-> ':o 21:27:17 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F57DEC.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:42:52 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 21:50:38 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-43-150.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:12:05 <ln> d/dt night 22:12:23 <Prof_Frink> How differential. 22:18:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> nigh 22:18:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcc01.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:06 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:40:52 *** de_ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:05 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 22:58:06 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-147-155-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [] 23:07:51 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad51a7e.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13917 /trunk/src/ (industry_gui.cpp lang/english.txt): -Fix [FS#2178]: wrong tooltip for the industry directory's list. 23:11:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay ;) 23:14:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> why do i not get an email? 23:15:29 <Rubidium> greylisting? 23:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> i do not remember setting any kind of filter... 23:17:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> my last flysray notification is from 6.3.2008 23:28:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay, it arrived :) 23:45:06 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:52:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13918 /tags/0.6.2/ (9 files in 3 dirs): -Release: 0.6.2. 23:56:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> i certainly did not expect that kind of action at this hour :p