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Log for #openttd on 10th November 2008:
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00:04:20  <Nite_Owl> Time to feed - Later all
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00:59:49  <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14571 /branches/noai/bin/ai/library/ (6 files in 6 dirs): [NoAI] -Fix: various of fixes in the libraries to work with NAIL-v2
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02:39:25  <rortom> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40419&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
02:39:26  <rortom> :D
02:41:01  <Sacro> rortom: missing close bracket D:
02:41:19  <rortom> oh?
02:41:21  <rortom> where
02:41:32  <Sacro> (is it a bug or a feature?;)
02:41:52  <rortom> okok ;)
02:42:13  <rortom> better? ;)
02:43:52  <Sacro> heh
02:44:01  <Sacro> aye
02:44:04  <Sacro> nice patch too
02:44:45  <rortom> thanks :)
02:45:02  <SmatZ> rortom: you really dislike OTTD coding style :-P
02:45:35  <rortom> uhm
02:45:39  <rortom> i tried to adept
02:45:50  <rortom> i guess its my { braches?
02:45:59  <Sacro> hehe
02:46:00  <rortom> *adapt
02:46:17  <rortom> say whats wrong so i can correct it :\
02:53:42  <rortom> fixed some braches, etc
02:53:51  <rortom> new version uploaded
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09:56:58  <planetmaker> g'day
09:57:46  <Vikthor> hi
10:04:39  <planetmaker> hi :) Not so far
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10:39:08  <mlankhorst_> Are there plans to remove the dependency on the non-free artwork needed to run openttd?
10:39:43  <FauxFaux> mlankhorst_: Only a few million of them.
10:39:53  <dih> have a look at the forums
10:39:56  <Progman> sure, but they must be replaced by new ones
10:40:08  <dih> esp the graphics replacement project :-P
10:40:14  <dih> hint: search for opengfx
10:41:07  <mlankhorst_> Nice :)
10:43:15  <FauxFaux> Or just run with -b 8bpp-debug or whatever the flag is. ;)
10:43:48  <dih> you still need those grf's though!
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10:52:37  <petern> so did opengfx copy the palette maps verbatim? :p
10:53:07  <petern> *remaps
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11:42:58  <Antdovu> posted windows binary for those interested in the station gui patch
11:42:58  <Antdovu> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40419
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12:01:45  <Jango> oil isn't really a feasible cargo is it
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12:01:52  <Jango> all my oil wells are shutting down
12:03:43  <Aali> oil wells in temperate are kind of useless, but you can still use oil platforms
12:04:11  <Jango> i'm playing on a massive map and there's 1 oil well left and 3 oil rigs
12:04:20  <Jango> compared to 127 coal mines
12:05:16  <Aali> deal with it :P
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12:18:42  <Aali> hmm, doing a track overlay thing, do i have to create separate sprites for half-tile foundations?
12:19:43  <Aali> or can i just use AddSortableSpriteToDraw and add 8 to z?
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12:22:44  <Aali> using method #2 with code copied from the PBS stuff doesn't look very good, the overlay isn't really part of the ground and ends up on top of things it shouldn't (like the autorail preview for example)
12:23:06  <davis--> :o
12:23:42  <Aali> but i dont see why DrawGroundSprite would need separate sprites, its already aware of the foundation :/
12:25:57  <davis--> iam afraid I cant help you there D:
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12:38:02  <petern> a track overlay thing? heh
12:39:32  <Aali> like the grass on unused tracks patch
12:40:16  <Aali> and yes, i looked at it, it doesn't even work with half-tile foundations (sprites end up in the wrong place)
12:41:43  <Doorslammer> Hmmm, this should make for an interesting picture video
12:42:01  <Doorslammer> Thomas the Tank Engine characters set to the tune of "Trans Europe Express"
12:42:05  <Doorslammer> In German :S
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13:12:18  <ln-> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3005279
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14:22:42  <Belugas> hello there
14:25:10  <planetmaker> g'day Belugas
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14:46:11  <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14573 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_order.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: getting the order destination of aircraft could assert when the order was a depot order (hangars are referenced by StationID, not by DepotID).
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15:07:43  <Progman> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=742498#p742498 *g*
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15:33:04  <planetmaker> @seen Trond
15:33:05  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Trond was last seen in #openttd 27 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Trond> his system*
15:33:08  <planetmaker> o_O
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15:39:43  <bottiger> I'm using Linux, and only the first time i opened openttd I got music - now it's gone. Sounds effects however works fine
15:40:25  <planetmaker> sounds like you disabled music. The right most button(?) will allow you to change settings.
15:40:32  <planetmaker> in the main menu while playing
15:42:00  <bottiger> the jukebox just doesn't want to play anything
15:42:05  <bottiger> it doesn't start :/
15:42:20  <bottiger> but there's lot of songs on the playlist/program
15:42:21  <petern> ignore it
15:42:26  <petern> the music sucks anyway
15:43:12  <bottiger> petern: I never heard it :P but it just bugs me it doesn't work
15:43:34  <petern> common problem, sound cards these days don't do any sort of midi rendering
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15:46:11  <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14572 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/macedonian.txt: -Add: stub for Macedonian.
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16:17:28  <petern> ex-cowboy
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16:25:14  <Belugas> what do you think... Scotland's Shame :)
16:26:25  <petern> chocky now
16:26:45  <petern> hmm, is this really nearly 10 years old..
16:28:36  <Belugas> watch out for your ears!
16:28:45  <Belugas> 10 years old, but still so good :)
16:29:00  <Belugas> like men, getting better with age ;)
16:29:12  <Belugas> God I'm GOOD then :D
16:29:39  <petern> .:D
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16:30:32  <benjamingoodger> hrrm, don't denigrate young people
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16:30:53  <benjamingoodger> if generation Y loses motivation, the world will end in a few decades
16:34:04  <Belugas> seriously, i doubt that ;)
16:34:20  <Antdovu> so what? the current old people won't be around to see it :P
16:35:00  <dih> Antdovu, i seriouslly cannot tell what the real point of that station stats is
16:35:05  <dih> what benifit does it bring?
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16:35:18  <dih> you just have a growing number - nothing else
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16:35:29  <Belugas> i'll be a ghost haunting the world then!
16:35:41  <dih> Belugas, you already haunt the world :-P
16:35:47  <Belugas> mmh...
16:35:49  <Belugas> right...
16:35:51  <dih> ;-)
16:35:53  <CIA-5> OpenTTD: glx * r14574 /branches/noai/src/ (52 files in 6 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r14542:14573
16:35:53  * dih hugs Belugas
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16:40:05  * Belugas re-starts The Precipice
16:40:22  <benjamingoodger> ¬.¬
16:41:15  * Belugas plays guitar in his head
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16:47:04  <Belugas> i'm pretty sure you can't even play a Dm5 on a DADGAD tuning! :P
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16:50:42  <benjamingoodger> meh
16:50:50  <yorick> möh?
16:51:13  <benjamingoodger> mÃŒh!
16:51:31  <dih> you 2 are simply not funny
16:51:32  <ln-> no hungarian
16:51:56  <dih> ln-: for someone who did not speak english just yesterday, you should not even try :-P
16:52:29  <benjamingoodger> ln probably speaks better english than most people I know
16:53:29  <Antdovu> dih: are you a resident that's-a-useless-patch-just-drop-it guy by any chance? ;)
16:54:23  <Belugas> dih is the admin-i-crave-for-total-server-control freak guy :D
16:54:27  <dih> no - i am the kind of guy that does not understand the purpose of patches that have no use :-P
16:54:38  <dih> lol @ Belugas
16:55:00  <benjamingoodger> hehe
16:55:05  <dih> shush ben!
16:55:07  <dih> :-P
16:55:23  <benjamingoodger> quiet, you megalomaniac
16:55:51  <dih> wtf?
16:55:51  <Antdovu> could I get a second opinion on my question? ;)
16:56:05  <dih> Antdovu, in this case i merely dont sue the point, and asked ;-)
16:56:45  <dih> if it's just displaying numbers that do not help in any way when considering the number of trains needed to service etc. i see really no point
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16:57:17  <dih> so i am just asking what it _really_ does and for what use
16:57:22  <dih> nothing negative
16:57:49  <Antdovu> actually, it could help with your point
16:58:06  <dih> explain :-P
16:58:56  <Antdovu> you can see data about the past and the general direction by comparing last month & year
16:59:25  <Antdovu> if it is increasing then there is a good chance you need more trains
17:02:05  <Antdovu> the amount of cargo going through the station can be a good useful to understand how important the station actually is
17:02:31  <ln-> 18:52 < benjamingoodger> ln probably speaks better english than most people I know  <-- thanks
17:03:14  <benjamingoodger> ln-: don't take that as a personal compliment
17:03:27  <Antdovu> right now you have no idea about the cargo flow trough transfer stations and unloading points that don't produce anything
17:03:39  <benjamingoodger> statistically, english-speaking europeans usually speak better english than english-speaking britons
17:04:49  <ln-> except swedes
17:04:53  <Antdovu> english-speaking is a relative term :P
17:05:21  <benjamingoodger> hmm
17:05:41  <benjamingoodger> no, I'd say the Swedish education system produces better english speakers than the British education system
17:05:43  <dih> Antdovu, so half of that patch is just storing unused numbers wasing space?
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17:05:49  <benjamingoodger> it's....horrifying
17:06:50  <Antdovu> many international students in Edinburgh have horrible language skills as well...
17:07:48  <Antdovu> it is just harder to notice when they are busy speaking other languages
17:07:49  <benjamingoodger> I'm not familiar with edinburgh, what nationality are they? the chinese people in cornwall are appalling, I'll admit
17:08:41  <Antdovu> the chinese are noticeable here as well
17:08:51  <Antdovu> but that is probably because there are so many of them ;)
17:11:06  <Antdovu> but the main point is that you won't notice somebodies bad English if they always avoid using it
17:12:02  <benjamingoodger> ah
17:12:04  <benjamingoodger> yes.
17:12:10  <benjamingoodger> that is incredibly annoying
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