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I'm totally tired and I missed everything at uni this week 01:53:24 <AgentLeMan> oO 01:59:28 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:00:44 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 02:17:27 *** Rudy_Giuliani_ [~chatzilla@bas3-hamilton14-1096561594.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 02:17:39 *** vraa [~vraa@h144.70.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 02:22:34 *** Rudy_Giuliani [~chatzilla@bas3-hamilton14-1096561594.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:36 *** Rudy_Giuliani_ is now known as Rudy_Giuliani 02:31:00 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D74F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:33:07 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:33:37 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06979.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 02:33:40 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 02:33:42 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 02:40:06 <Sacro> ewwwww 02:40:12 <Sacro> 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by peer] 10:16:35 <Celestar> \o 10:17:04 *** Zorn [zorn@e177229139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:17:38 <Brianetta> yarr 10:19:46 <yorick> yarr 10:19:57 <Celestar> yarr? 10:20:01 <Celestar> yet another railroad? 10:20:03 <yorick> arr 10:20:22 <yorick> YAISP! 10:21:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D17C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:47 <planetmaker> Celestar: let's see how much the community effort will work: http://mz.openttdcoop.org:8000/ :) 10:27:13 <Aali> heyo 10:29:56 <Celestar> planetmaker: at the end-of-life of our sun, are there any estimated how much of its H2 will actually have been fused? 10:30:16 <Celestar> nice planetmaker :D 10:32:00 <DASPRiD> Celestar, why, do you wanna steal h2 from the sun when it dies? :P 10:32:31 <Celestar> just pondering about 3rd generation stars 10:33:13 <Celestar> assuming Sun is 2nd generation 10:34:33 <Aali> planetmaker, yorick: i was thinking, maybe we should move the tile-type checks into these new functions aswell, for example, Is*DepotUsageAllowed returns false if the tile isn't a compatible depot 10:39:42 <yorick> we need a channel :/ 10:42:38 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44:12 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:45:31 <petern> separate developer channels smack of elitism :p 10:47:07 <yorick> what does SubtractMoneyFromCompanyFract do? 10:47:10 <petern> also, bah, a 1600x1200 lcd is massively expensive 10:48:21 <petern> no idea 10:49:25 <yorick> I mean the "Fract" part 10:49:48 <yorick> it seems to be used for running costs 10:51:12 <Aali> it deals with fractions of one monetary unit? 10:51:52 * petern wonders if a viewsonic q241wb is 10:51:53 <petern> any 10:51:54 <petern> good 10:54:14 <petern> hmm, seems to not exist on their website 10:59:05 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28DCD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:59:48 <yorick> hm, should the daily on foreign-tracks cost only be done on running trains? 11:03:52 <petern> so stopped trains blocking track incur no cost? 11:03:57 <Aali> yorick: does the code we have now even work? :P 11:04:20 <yorick> Aali, yes, started+finished yesterday 11:04:24 <yorick> now working on the fees 11:04:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.200.25] has joined #openttd 11:04:58 <Aali> and it has no problems? no bugs? no asserts? 11:05:05 <yorick> not yet... 11:05:11 <yorick> but feeder shares won't work 11:05:19 <yorick> and autoclean won't either 11:05:48 <Aali> what happens if someone goes bankrupt? 11:06:20 <yorick> tracks with foreign trains will remain and are taken over by the next owner of the company 11:06:55 <Aali> so, you can have a train standing on tracks that belong to a company thats no longer valid? and this doesn't cause any problems? 11:07:10 <yorick> not really, no 11:07:15 <gynter> rofl 64x64 map ftw 11:07:17 <Aali> right 11:07:29 <Aali> just checking 11:07:46 <yorick> but I haven't tested airplanes yet 11:07:49 <yorick> or ships 11:08:28 <yorick> but I guess that shouldn't give any problems, as you can have those shared on normal openttd too 11:08:54 <Aali> its just that you're moving very fast here, i can't keep up :P 11:09:06 <Aali> but please, do continue 11:09:16 <yorick> you haven't even started... 11:10:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.200.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:17:30 <Aali> if you're talking about code, why would I, we don't even have a plan 11:17:54 <Aali> I don't believe in writing code without having a plan :P 11:18:17 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:20:46 * Celestar yawns 11:21:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80801.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:02 <yorick> Aali: don't we? 11:22:42 <yorick> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=744910#p744910 11:23:02 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 11:23:10 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81028.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:23:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:23:57 <planetmaker> [11:33] <Celestar> planetmaker: at the end-of-life of our sun, are there any estimated how much of its H2 will actually have been fused? <--- 10% 11:24:26 <planetmaker> [11:43] <yorick> we need a channel :/ <-- #openttd.patchers? 11:24:33 <Aali> yorick: yes, but there's also the issue of how to keep these "steps" separate 11:24:51 <yorick> planetmaker: Aali -> #openttd.patchers? 11:25:15 <Aali> since a normal hg repo is probably the best we can do for now, we'll have to come up with something else 11:27:07 <planetmaker> well... meanwhile I think we could use a normal hg repo. It's done for bigger projects anyway 11:27:33 <Celestar> planetmaker: I see, thanks. 11:28:10 <planetmaker> we'll just have to skip keeping things really seperate. It boils down to a good commit behaviour 11:28:15 <planetmaker> Celestar: np 11:28:39 <Celestar> planetmaker: some colleague tried to tell me that the sun will fuse each and every single H it contains. 11:28:51 <planetmaker> no way :) 11:29:29 <planetmaker> It will loose much mass after the main sequence by solar winds. Which is basically H 11:29:40 <Qball> lol 11:29:49 <Celestar> doesn't it even lose much H now? 11:29:54 <planetmaker> sure. 11:30:10 <Aali> how about some abstract "levels" that you can specify in the commit message? (such as base, sharing, settings, per-company etc) 11:30:28 <Celestar> it's about 2 million tons per second, isn't it? 11:30:31 <planetmaker> Aali: that's an idea which I pondered already, too 11:31:33 <Aali> mistakes are bound to happen due to the human factor, but it should atleast help us if we do want to split the patch 11:31:34 <yorick> omg...and then I forgot adding a file to the source.list, which makes ld error 11:32:27 <Brianetta> I'm getting pummelled by neutrinos )-: 11:32:50 <Doorslammer> The DJ? 11:33:01 <Brianetta> The subatomic particle. 11:33:05 <Doorslammer> Oh 11:33:07 <Doorslammer> Carry on 11:33:28 <planetmaker> Celestar: no idea about mass loss due to solar wind 11:33:40 <planetmaker> Aali: I agree. 11:34:10 <Celestar> planetmaker: wikipedia (?!) says something about 7 billion tons per hour 11:34:21 <planetmaker> well, then :) 11:34:37 <Celestar> but ok. the mass loss is very very low (about 10e-14 per year) 11:34:38 <planetmaker> not much. and negligible wrt mass loss due to fusion 11:34:57 <Brianetta> 50 trillion solar-sourced electron neutrinos per second, per human. 11:35:07 <Aali> anyways, i'm off to upgrade a server in stockholm :P 11:35:07 <Brianetta> They're not particularly massive, though 11:35:09 <Aali> laters 11:35:14 <Celestar> Brianetta: not really, no (= 11:35:14 <planetmaker> cu, Aali 11:35:26 <planetmaker> but they have mass :) 11:35:32 <Brianetta> They do. 11:35:48 <Brianetta> This means they don't quite travel at light speed. 11:36:02 <planetmaker> http://www.wer-weiss-was.de/app/archive/show/4463546?archived=1;sr=#4463546 <-- there I put together some numbers some time ago. 11:36:09 <planetmaker> ^ @ Celestar 11:36:50 <Brianetta> Those neutrinos are the sort generated when protons turn into neutrons 11:37:19 <Celestar> planetmaker: nice one 11:37:48 <Celestar> Brianetta: yeah, but that's beta+ decay which is not particulary important inside the sun 11:38:04 <Brianetta> Not important, but extremely frequent. 11:38:11 <Brianetta> Call it the sun's hobby. 11:38:40 <planetmaker> Celestar: well. Each p+p -> D involves emission of a neutrino 11:38:52 <Celestar> yeah, but that is NOT beta+ decay (= 11:38:59 <planetmaker> :P 11:39:21 <Celestar> planetmaker: of course it emits a neutrino, other you have trouble with conservation of momentum 11:39:31 <Brianetta> Not to mention electrical charge 11:39:44 <Celestar> er .. 11:39:48 <Brianetta> wot? 11:39:54 <Celestar> a neutrino, as the name implies, has no charge 11:39:57 <Celestar> luckily 11:40:09 <planetmaker> :) yup. 11:40:11 <Brianetta> but when one's made, there's generally a change of charge 11:40:17 <Celestar> otherwise you'll be ionized pretty quickly 11:40:28 <planetmaker> p(p,nu,e+)D 11:40:34 <Celestar> yeah 11:40:37 <planetmaker> p(p;nu,e+)D 11:40:41 <Celestar> positron (= 11:40:43 <planetmaker> mind the semi colon ;) 11:41:40 <Brianetta> One day we'll discover matter with negative mass. It'll have gravitational attraction to matter like it, but will repel positively massed matter. 11:42:16 <Celestar> then we have the warp drive \o/ 11:42:25 <planetmaker> Brianetta: I have already found it :O 11:42:32 <planetmaker> But I don't trust my measurements ;) 11:42:37 <Celestar> hahahah 11:42:38 <Brianetta> As long as all you want to do is leave this universe for the one made of negative-mass 11:42:52 <Celestar> measurements or computations? 11:42:53 <Brianetta> I imagine this hypothetical stuff would emmigrate 11:43:35 <Celestar> why? 11:43:39 <Celestar> you could contain it 11:43:46 <yorick> how nice... 11:43:47 <Brianetta> You could, but does nature? 11:43:53 <yorick> 10,000 shared track fee a-day 11:44:11 <Brianetta> It'd be cool to bolt it onto aircraft 11:44:20 <Brianetta> or suits of armour 11:44:25 <Brianetta> as extra armour 11:44:48 <Brianetta> I suspect that negative-one kilo of mass has interesting inertial properties, too 11:44:50 <Eddi|zuHause> they'll use weapons made out of this then ;) 11:44:55 <Brianetta> like when you push it, it goes with you 11:45:33 <Brianetta> I reckon any naturally occurring negative mass is a long way away, and moving fast. 11:45:39 <Celestar> one day I'll become rich because I invent a means to kill people who put flash-based popup ads on webpages that conver the actual page 11:46:06 <Brianetta> Celestar: I hate them. You're never sure whether that X in the corner will close the ad or do something awful. 11:46:59 <Celestar> _IF_ you get such an X 11:47:09 <Brianetta> yeah )-: 11:47:16 <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes those flash ads hang before they can display an X 11:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause> or other kind of close button 11:47:29 <yorick> *adblocker* :) 11:47:51 <Qball> noscript 11:48:08 <Brianetta> Is there anything like a right-handed neutrino? 11:48:31 <Qball> Brianetta: I use them to fuel my car 11:48:38 <Brianetta> If we met English-speaking aliens form another universe, could we potentially figure out if they're made of antimatter before shaking hands? 11:48:51 <Qball> Brianetta: you could ask them 11:48:56 <Celestar> :P 11:48:58 <Brianetta> They'd say no 11:49:16 <planetmaker> [12:46] <Celestar> measurements or computations? <-- measurement... 11:49:22 <Brianetta> but we might be antimatter, as far as they're concerned 11:49:25 <Qball> anyway you let the ensign (red shirt) shake hands 11:49:29 <Doorslammer> Can't we talk about something that's a little less... 11:49:33 <Doorslammer> ...well, bollocks? 11:49:49 <Brianetta> Qball: Have you any idea how much energy is released from matter/antimatter annihilation? 11:50:04 <Qball> Brianetta: ntohing a good shield (assuming we have them) can't fix 11:50:06 <Celestar> "he's dead jim" 11:50:22 <Brianetta> You want to make sure you're in a position to observe the light from your ensign's explosion several minutes later. 11:50:23 <planetmaker> [12:53] <Brianetta> but we might be antimatter, as far as they're concerned <-- not really. Because our matter as it surrounds you is defined to be matter (same as in electrical engineering + and -. Only matter of definition) 11:50:51 <Brianetta> planetmaker: Exactly; the aliens might have the other definition 11:50:58 <Brianetta> planetmaker: So, asking them might not work 11:50:58 <planetmaker> sure :) 11:51:02 <Qball> Brianetta: but they speak english 11:51:04 <Qball> year right 11:51:09 <Eddi|zuHause> Brianetta: well, the military rules for a nuclear explosion state that you should stay there and observe 11:51:17 <Brianetta> but asking them if their neutrinos have the same chirality as their whatevers might 11:51:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm certain that'd apply to antimatter explosions also ;) 11:51:32 <planetmaker> Brianetta: there's an asymmetry, the CP asymmetry. It boils down to a break in helicity. 11:51:43 <Brianetta> Eddi|zuHause: You still want to be a good few light minutes away, with sunglasses 11:51:44 <planetmaker> So you _can_ define matter and antimatter unambigously 11:51:49 <Qball> anyway what is the connection with openttd? 11:52:08 <Brianetta> Qball: Have you ever noticed that your trains explode at the merest touch of another train? 11:52:14 <Qball> true 11:52:14 <planetmaker> Antimatter drives, Qball :) 11:52:15 <Qball> true 11:52:31 <Qball> planetmaker: I prefer zero point energy 11:52:45 <planetmaker> zero point energy is not usable. 11:52:58 <Qball> yes and the earth is flat 11:52:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Qball: so you want to steal the energy from another universe? 11:53:00 <Qball> so. 11:53:05 <Qball> Eddi|zuHause: why not 11:53:17 <Eddi|zuHause> what if that other universe wanted to use the energy? 11:53:21 <Brianetta> As long as we also bury our rubbish in that other universe 11:53:25 <planetmaker> philosophical, there cannot be another universe. 11:53:35 <planetmaker> Whatever is accessible is by definition part of the universe :) 11:53:41 <Eddi|zuHause> or if they stealed[?] our engergy? 11:53:47 <planetmaker> stole :) 11:53:51 <Brianetta> Eddi|zuHause: They can steal from our heatsinks 11:53:53 <Gekz> energy* 11:53:54 <Brianetta> which we float int heir space 11:54:07 <yorick> planetmaker, depends on the defenition of universe... 11:54:13 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause: I thought you would have had English verbs downpat 11:54:19 <Gekz> considering how hard german ones are :P 11:54:28 <Brianetta> yorick: Universe is a tautological word 11:54:34 <planetmaker> yorick: no. Look up the word universe. 11:54:45 <planetmaker> it means "including everything" 11:54:49 <Brianetta> If there are many of them, they are multiverses 11:54:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Gekz: yes, but english verbs are "irregular" 11:55:04 <Brianetta> Hollywood gets universe and multiverse swapped about 11:55:10 <Gekz> Eddi|zuHause: and German ones are not? 11:55:23 <Eddi|zuHause> no, german ones are either "strong" or "weak" 11:55:24 <Gekz> weak and strong both have irregulars 11:55:28 <Gekz> haha 11:55:29 <Brianetta> Sein is irregular. 11:55:37 <Eddi|zuHause> with a handful of exceptions 11:55:38 <planetmaker> in nearly any language 11:55:49 <yorick> like esperanto 11:55:57 <Brianetta> There's a finite list of English irregular verbs 11:56:13 <Eddi|zuHause> while english verbs are 80% weak, the 20% of formerly strong verbs turned irregular 11:56:36 <Eddi|zuHause> verbs that are strong in german are often weak in english 11:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Brianetta: yes, but it's a handful of pages, not a handful ;) 11:57:43 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:57:52 <Gekz> the umlaut changes are irregular 11:58:01 <Gekz> and if I didnt suck so badly at german, I'd give you an example 11:58:02 <Brianetta> There's only a couple of hundred 11:58:11 <Brianetta> You can cram them onto a page if you write small 11:58:17 <Gekz> I find french verbs the easiest 11:58:39 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, Brianetta, it's usually the last page in an english teaching book ;) 11:58:49 <Brianetta> (-: 11:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> hey, it's snowing... 11:59:06 <Brianetta> And if you live in America, there are fewer irregular English verbs 11:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause> and i have to leave in 10 minutes... 11:59:11 <Eddi|zuHause> oh joy ;) 11:59:16 <Gekz> Brianetta: lol 11:59:31 <Gekz> Brianetta: is that a good thing? 11:59:39 <Brianetta> Gekz: No joke; that's one of the differences between US English and, er, English English 11:59:46 <Gekz> learnt vs learned? 11:59:48 <Brianetta> yes 11:59:51 <Brianetta> and no 11:59:59 <Gekz> example 12:00:20 <Brianetta> learn is one, yeah 12:00:37 <Brianetta> dream 12:00:43 <Brianetta> dreamed vs dreamt 12:01:05 <Celestar> spent * 12:01:18 <Brianetta> nobody spended money 12:01:25 <planetmaker> :P 12:01:47 <Eddi|zuHause> once we had a test in english, and nearly half the class used "gotten", and the next day, the teacher said "i assume you've heard that in some american movie or something, so i'll accept that this time", when we told her, that we actually thought of "forget -> forgotten", she said, if she knew that, she wouldn't have allowed it as correct 12:02:01 <Gekz> lolol 12:02:12 <Brianetta> gotten. Yuck. My wife uses that. 12:02:26 <Brianetta> and also "getten" 12:02:28 <Brianetta> which is worse 12:02:31 <Gekz> getten? 12:02:32 <Gekz> never heard of it 12:02:33 <Gekz> ever 12:02:36 <Gekz> _ever_ 12:02:39 <Brianetta> You're not from County Durham 12:02:49 <Gekz> I assume this is lovely England? 12:02:56 <Brianetta> I've getten used to her saying it )-: 12:03:22 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't sound that bad to me ;) 12:03:43 <Brianetta> Remember, England is where English was born out of the Saxon, Anglo, Danish, French, Celtic and so forth mish-mash. 12:03:51 <Gekz> lol 12:03:51 <Celestar> Brianetta: I have heard "spended" .. 12:03:58 <Brianetta> THen there's the native northern languages; Yorkshire and Cumbria had their owb 12:04:22 <Brianetta> own 12:04:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't think of a proper german equivalent of "get" 12:04:44 <Celestar> oh man. I just _accidently_ found out that my train for tomorrow morning is cancelled. 12:05:11 <Celestar> and those fucktards don't deem it required to inform me. 12:05:17 <Celestar> morons. 12:05:42 <Brianetta> Eddi: Bekommen 12:05:53 <Brianetta> or erlangen 12:06:09 <Eddi|zuHause> Brianetta: yes, but it has no resemblance of "get" ;) 12:06:11 <Brianetta> or ankommen 12:06:17 <Brianetta> getkommen (: 12:06:20 <Eddi|zuHause> of course i know the translations 12:06:28 <Brianetta> anythingkommen 12:06:32 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: erhalten 12:06:39 <Brianetta> to get 12:06:43 <planetmaker> yes 12:06:46 <Brianetta> to acquire or to become 12:07:00 <Brianetta> to get food, to get taller 12:07:13 <planetmaker> May I become a pizza, please ;) 12:07:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean there is no language-historical connection that you can draw from "bekommen" to "get" 12:07:45 <Eddi|zuHause> which gets even worse if you consider the english word "become" (nice example for a false friend) 12:08:02 <Celestar> does any of the Germans have experience with DB's current "emergency timetable" ? 12:08:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i have to go now, bye 12:08:22 <Celestar> lol 12:08:26 <Eddi|zuHause> hope i don't freeze 12:08:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it's snowing like crazy 12:08:48 <Celestar> not (yet) here 12:09:10 <planetmaker> it had been snowing here an hour ago... quite heavily 12:09:15 <Brianetta> I was in Berlin last Christmas 12:09:18 <Brianetta> I miss Germany (: 12:09:21 <Brianetta> ): 12:09:41 <Celestar> why? 12:09:50 <Brianetta> Why do I miss it? 12:09:57 <Celestar> yeah 12:10:02 <Brianetta> Have you ever travelled by bus in the UK? 12:10:11 <Celestar> I don'T travel by bus. 12:10:18 <Celestar> it's horrible by design 12:10:21 <Brianetta> Then you can't possible understand. (: 12:10:27 <Celestar> haha 12:10:40 <Celestar> oh wait. I was going from Vancouver, BC to Seattle, WA once 12:10:46 <Brianetta> It's many small differences like that one 12:10:55 <Celestar> arguing for 25 minutes with the guy at the border. 12:11:03 <Celestar> because he didn't like my passpart 12:11:05 <Celestar> passport* 12:11:23 <Brianetta> Was he a yank or a canuck? 12:11:29 <Celestar> because, quote, I have never seen such a passport before, endquote 12:12:03 <Celestar> Brianetta: an idiot, so why does it matter :P 12:12:18 <Brianetta> Celestar: We must pander to my prejudices 12:12:25 <Celestar> hah 12:12:29 <Celestar> I honestly can't remember 12:12:36 <Celestar> perhaps half'n'half :P 12:12:56 <Brianetta> Germany does Christmas better than the UK 12:13:05 <Brianetta> It's quieter, for a start 12:13:12 <Celestar> yeah that's true 12:13:16 <Brianetta> In the UK it's like Hollywood Christmas 12:13:21 <Brianetta> all shopping 12:13:34 <planetmaker> [13:13] <Brianetta> Have you ever travelled by bus in the UK? <--- an interesting experience ;) 12:13:41 <planetmaker> London - Inverness... 12:13:51 <Brianetta> planetmaker: That would have been a coach 12:13:55 <Brianetta> Coaches are better 12:13:58 <planetmaker> ah, right :P 12:13:58 <Brianetta> They tell you where they are 12:14:04 <Brianetta> Local buses. 12:14:14 <Brianetta> You get on, you tell the driver where you want to go. 12:14:21 <Brianetta> He tells you the price, and sells you a ticket. 12:14:23 <planetmaker> yeah... fogot this small difference... in German language there is no such distinction. 12:14:29 <Brianetta> It doesn't need entwerting. 12:14:40 <Brianetta> You take a seat. 12:15:01 <Brianetta> You then stare out of the window for the entire journey, looking for some sign that you're anywhere near where you think you should be getting off. 12:15:07 <Brianetta> You're asking other passengers. 12:15:12 <Brianetta> The driver's too busy to help you. 12:15:46 <Brianetta> Unless you already know exactly where that bus is going, you have no way of knowing. 12:16:08 <Brianetta> There's no route map, no signage telling you the name of the next stop. 12:16:16 <Brianetta> The bus won't stop anywhere unless you ring the bell. 12:16:32 <Brianetta> The bus won't stop at any stops that aren't "his" even if you ring the bell. 12:16:37 <Brianetta> It's a tortuous experience. 12:17:15 <Doorslammer> And if you are lucky you find one that has an hourly or less service 12:17:28 <Brianetta> In Berlin, I bought the ticket from the machine at the stop. I got on the bus, and waved at the driver. I enwerted the ticket. I waited until the electronic display showed the name of my intended stop, where I got off. 12:17:41 <petern> enwerted? 12:17:57 <Brianetta> petern: You have to use the entwerter to entwert your ticket. 12:18:05 <Brianetta> Not sure what the English is. 12:18:21 <Brianetta> Basically, it's not valid for travel without the time that you started the journed stamped on it. 12:18:33 <Brianetta> So effectively, you clock in. 12:18:51 <Brianetta> Tickets are generally valid for an hour or so in one general direction. 12:22:01 <Brianetta> So, in Germany, I didn't need to know: 12:22:10 <Brianetta> 1. Where my destination was; only what it was called. 12:22:15 <Brianetta> 2. How to speak German. 12:23:46 <Brianetta> Added to this, in Germany I could use my Maestro card in the ticket machine. 12:24:00 <Brianetta> In England, you must have cash, and often you must have the precise amount. 12:24:38 <Brianetta> London's easier, but you still need to know where you're going. 12:24:59 <Celestar> heh 12:25:33 <Brianetta> Also, German food is better. 12:25:56 <Brianetta> The people are friendlier. 12:26:04 <Celestar> German _beer_ is better (= 12:26:35 <Brianetta> Not a beer drinker 12:26:43 <Celestar> neither am I 12:26:52 <Celestar> but the beer in Britain really sucked 12:27:13 <Brianetta> 24th December, 2007, I was in a small coffee-and-beer cafe in east Berlin. 12:27:24 <Brianetta> You don't really get them in Britain. 12:27:36 <Brianetta> You can buy bad coffee in a pub, but cafes don't tend to sell alcohol. 12:28:46 <petern> depends on the beer 12:28:57 <Brianetta> Depends where you get the beer, too 12:29:04 <Brianetta> Some very good beers travel badly 12:29:07 <petern> i don't drink lager, so... 12:32:35 <Celestar> Guiness ... yuuuuuck 12:35:10 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35:16 <yorick> (Money)build_cost * ((byte)50 / 100) <-- would this get floored to 0? 12:38:37 <planetmaker> [13:21] <Brianetta> petern: You have to use the entwerter to entwert your ticket. <-- it basically means to stamp it, to make it valid 12:39:38 <yorick> it's called "dateless ticket" here 12:42:22 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 12:42:44 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad1d189.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:18 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm247.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 12:55:31 <Celestar> why are there so few benchmarks of the new Opterons out :S 12:56:13 <Brianetta> Clue's in the question 12:57:07 <Gekz> Celestar: no-one loves them 12:57:15 <Celestar> they're pretty decent 12:57:17 <Gekz> future Phenoms will be 6GHz+ aparently 12:57:19 <Gekz> apparently* 12:57:27 <Gekz> which makes me shit bricks 12:57:31 <Celestar> Gekz: yes. on LN2 that was 12:57:38 <Brianetta> petern: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entwerter 12:58:10 <Celestar> Gekz: stock clock will be 3.0 GHz in January 12:58:16 <Gekz> o.o 12:58:17 <Gekz> stock fail 12:59:04 <Celestar> ? 13:00:57 <petern> everyone loves intel at the moment 13:01:21 <Celestar> petern: AMD will be back on track with their 45nm CPUs. Which is good for us customers. 13:01:30 * Brianetta likes Centaur 13:01:42 <Celestar> DEC or SEC, Brianetta ? :P 13:01:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C825.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:02:07 <Brianetta> er 13:02:13 <Brianetta> whichever makes the C7? 13:02:46 <Celestar> Dual Engine Centaur, Single Engine Centaur ... Upper Stages used on several launchers like the Titan :P 13:02:56 <Celestar> doesn VIA make the C7? 13:03:04 <Brianetta> As Centaur 13:03:16 <Brianetta> It's a wholly-owned subsidiary 13:04:41 <petern> hmm, socket g34 13:05:14 <petern> a lot of pins 13:05:17 <petern> well, contacts 13:11:03 <Celestar> O_o Islamists in Somalia are now hunting the pirates 13:12:24 <Jango> feel sorry for the pirates? 13:12:32 <Jango> Celestar, how are you - long time no see 13:12:34 <planetmaker> that's not bad. The reasoning they claim is scary. 13:12:59 <planetmaker> anyway, gotta run for train. 13:13:55 <Celestar> Jango! how are you? 13:14:04 <Celestar> Jango: nah, feeling sorry for the marines waiting for work to come :P 13:14:15 <Jango> pretty good - wfh today so all the better 13:14:22 <Jango> lol 13:14:37 <Jango> what you up to these days? 13:15:20 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:15:23 <Celestar> work work work 13:15:26 <Celestar> but it's going well. 13:15:33 <Jango> keeping the money flowing in 13:15:35 <Celestar> I'm seeing a light at the end of the tunnel (= 13:15:47 <Jango> different job? 13:16:25 <Celestar> nah, but PhD thesis is nearing completion. 13:16:33 <Jango> you're obviously still keeping up with development with openttd - i thought real life would have stopped all that 13:16:38 <Celestar> I've basically covered all I wanted to and can start writing it up. 13:16:47 <Jango> what's the subject? 13:17:06 <Jango> and tell me, has your sister got bored recording music now? 13:18:03 <Celestar> Jango: computational fluid dynamics. Mixing and combustion processes .. gas turbines and stuff. 13:18:18 <Jango> very specialist 13:18:21 <Celestar> no she hasn't. She's just transferring to another label and that's a lengthy process ... 13:18:46 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 13:19:02 <Jango> i'm looking forward to the next CD - we're big fans of her in my house 13:19:10 <Jango> and it's not just cos i "met" you first ;) 13:19:20 <Celestar> :D 13:19:35 <Celestar> Jango: she's doing a new recording next month 13:19:43 <Jango> do you know what of? 13:20:30 <Celestar> no, but I might have it somewhere 13:21:36 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 13:21:37 <Jango> how's cargodest going? 13:22:01 <Celestar> Jango: sorry, this schedule of hers is outdated. 13:22:20 <Celestar> cargodest is going nicely, but a bit on the backburner till mid-december. Working on load-balancing concepts however 13:22:30 <Jango> if you get a new one, let me know :) 13:22:42 <Celestar> I shall 13:22:49 <Jango> i'm looking forward to trying cargodest - haven't got round to it 13:23:01 <Celestar> heh .. try it and tell me what you think 13:23:10 <Celestar> note: "Too many passengers" is not a valid comment :P 13:23:13 <Jango> lol 13:23:22 <Jango> i like too many <n> 13:23:43 <Jango> that's what makes the game interesting 13:24:37 <Celestar> I quite agree 13:24:44 <Celestar> but you can easily get overwhelmed with cargodest 13:24:51 <Celestar> especially with non-standard houses 13:26:02 <Jango> ah, haven't realy played with newgrf yet 13:26:13 <Jango> i'm just a ordinary player :) 13:26:27 <Jango> except i'm liking the bridges 13:26:46 <Jango> i think you did them? 13:27:20 <Celestar> what bridges? the flexible ones? 13:27:26 <Jango> ye 13:27:31 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:27:40 <Celestar> well Tron did a huge bunch of the work, I finalized it. 13:28:05 <Jango> ah, so you can't take all the credit! 13:28:06 <Jango> but 13:28:13 <Jango> it's good work 13:28:44 <Jango> makes it much easier to keep the traffic moving fast with better acceleration turned on 13:29:17 <Jango> i guess new map array is cancelled now? 13:30:13 <Celestar> "suspended" :P 13:30:22 <Jango> :) 13:31:30 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.185.190.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:34 * Celestar sneezes 13:34:22 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:34:25 <Born_Acorn> Bless thee! 13:34:39 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:34:57 <Celestar> danks 13:35:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.194.11] has joined #openttd 13:38:31 <Jango> if you walk into a shop in Austria - they say something like "gus got" 13:38:37 <Jango> i presume it means welcome 13:38:44 <Jango> but i have no idea how to spell it :) 13:40:37 *** questionmark [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:40:54 *** yorick is now known as Guest117 13:40:54 *** questionmark is now known as yorick 13:41:20 <Brianetta> GrÌà Gott 13:41:36 <Brianetta> God's greetings, roughly 13:42:02 <Brianetta> You'll hear it in Bavaria, too 13:42:58 <Jango> my irc isn't unicode - what's the first word? Gruss ? 13:43:07 <Jango> with umlauts and double S 13:43:46 <Jango> i suspected you might hear it in Bavaria - that's why I asked while Celestar was around.. 13:43:58 <Jango> but help comes from unexpected sources 13:44:25 <Jango> thanks 13:47:44 *** Guest117 [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.194.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:49:36 <Brianetta> yeah 13:49:38 <Brianetta> Gruess 13:53:12 <Celestar> it is common in southern Germany 13:53:15 <Celestar> not only bavaria 13:54:11 <Sacro> Jango: from the topic "UTF-8 please" 13:57:20 <Jango> Sacro, i don't believe I personally sacrileged the rules 13:57:50 <Jango> right, off to the registry office :o 14:00:11 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:02:54 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad84b74.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 14:05:23 <Sacro> Celestar: you a forum mod? 14:05:51 *** Fantasya [~a@78.59.192.248] has joined #openttd 14:08:17 *** TrogDoor [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-167.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:08:24 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-38.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:29 *** TrogDoor is now known as Doorslammer 14:09:24 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad1ee32.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:24 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 14:15:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:24:35 * Fantasya np: Guru Josh Project - Infinity [03:11m/213kbps/44kHz] 14:30:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:58 <Vikthor> Eddi|zuHause: I should appoint you as my forward meterological observer, it's snowing here just now :p 14:36:59 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:59 <Celestar> no snow here 14:40:01 <Celestar> (yet) 14:40:16 <Celestar> EDDM 211420Z 29019G31KT 8000 -SHRA SCT005 BKN010 03/01 Q0997 RERA NOSIG 14:40:25 <Sacro> ED... 14:40:31 <Celestar> no snow for the next 6 hours apparently 14:40:32 <Sacro> -SHRA 14:40:34 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:37 <Sacro> light showers 14:40:39 <Celestar> and up to 60km/h window 14:40:42 <Celestar> yes Sacro 14:40:46 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:40:50 <Sacro> cold D: 14:41:27 <Celestar> WSSS 211430Z 01003KT 320V050 9999 FEW016 SCT070 28/26 Q1010 NOSIG 14:41:29 <Celestar> better? :P 14:42:41 * Sacro looks up EGNJ 14:42:49 <Sacro> EGNJ 211420Z 32012KT 9999 SCT021 06/00 Q1013 14:43:09 <Sacro> RERA NOSIG? 14:43:27 <FauxFaux> Is this some kind of crazy NMEA for weather? :p 14:43:59 <Celestar> RERA == recent rain (i.e. runway may be wet) 14:44:04 <Sacro> "If you mean Homer, he is a fictional main character in the animated tv series The Simpsons" 14:44:06 <Celestar> NOSIG == no significant change 14:44:11 <Sacro> that's not who homer was *facepalm* 14:45:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fff01.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:52:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-118-73.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 14:53:17 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:56:12 <Celestar> hm .. 14:56:19 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:56:28 <Celestar> I wonder whether these is a tool to monitor file system usage in linux 14:56:47 <petern> at what level? 14:57:06 <Celestar> at file system level 14:58:00 * Jango is glad that we're not still all using windows 14:58:18 <Celestar> er .. 14:58:21 <Celestar> like what? Vista? 14:58:22 <Celestar> :P 14:58:56 <FauxFaux> lsof / strace? 14:59:58 <Celestar> I don't want to know what file are open,I wonder what _file_system_ the majority of my I/O goes to 15:01:40 <FauxFaux> Oh dear. 15:02:43 <Celestar> which is difficult when running evms 15:07:44 <Celestar> evms is a mistake 15:07:48 <Celestar> s/is/was 15:07:55 *** Timmaexx [~chatzilla@p509092BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:08:17 *** Timmaexx [~chatzilla@p509092BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 15:08:49 <Sacro> s/$/\// 15:08:54 <petern> "monitor file system usage" was pretty vague 15:09:00 <Celestar> petern: yeah. 15:09:14 <Celestar> petern: I wish to monitor how much I/O happens on each of my file systems. 15:09:15 <Celestar> better? 15:15:31 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:15:46 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 15:17:36 <fjb> systat? 15:18:05 <Celestar> that all seems per block-device 15:19:14 <fjb> gstat 15:22:14 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:46 <fjb> gstat -f ufs 15:24:51 <fjb> dT: 1.001s w: 1.000s filter: ufs 15:24:53 <fjb> L(q) ops/s r/s kBps ms/r w/s kBps ms/w %busy Name 15:24:54 <fjb> 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ufs/SP2004Cs2root 15:24:56 <fjb> 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ufs/SP2004Cs2usr 15:24:57 <fjb> 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ufs/SP2004Cs2loca 15:24:59 <fjb> l 15:25:00 <fjb> 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ufs/SP2004Cs2var 15:25:02 <fjb> 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ufs/SP2004Cs2var2 15:25:19 <fjb> Ok, not much io here now. 15:28:51 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35:04 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 15:39:18 <Celestar> -f is not a valid option here :o 15:45:31 <Celestar> I gotta head out 15:45:40 <Celestar> cu 15:45:41 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:52:29 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 15:53:15 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 15:57:31 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:27 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:02:41 *** mortal is now known as Guest134 16:02:42 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:06:14 *** Guest134 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:34 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-118-73.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:33 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 16:23:24 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:28:00 <yorick> why is CompaniesMonthlyLoop in economy.cpp? 16:34:41 <gynter> whats the point of buying shares ? 16:34:46 <gynter> of company 16:35:41 <Eddi|zuHause> selling them later for more money than you invested 16:35:50 <gynter> ah k 16:35:52 <Eddi|zuHause> but the system is not really balanced 16:36:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure there should even be a shares system 16:36:39 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:36:51 *** mortal is now known as Guest137 16:36:52 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 16:43:16 *** Guest137 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:05 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.118.125] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:28 *** vraa [~vraa@h131.227.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:05 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 16:59:54 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:33 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet550.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 17:11:21 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p54971CFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 17:11:45 <Celestar> \o 17:11:45 *** Antdovu [~Otinn@vpn2-181.vpn.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 17:12:24 <yorick> hello 17:13:17 <Antdovu> guten tag 17:16:01 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-167.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 17:18:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-118-73.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:24:06 *** StarLionIsaac [~chatzilla@user-5445016b.lns3-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:25:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-118-73.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:53 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-85-158.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:13 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:27:38 <Brianetta> How do you choose your external MIDI device with openttd? 17:28:11 <Eddi|zuHause> extmidi=... in openttd.cfg? 17:28:33 <glx> that's the player 17:28:50 <Eddi|zuHause> and the player can't get arguments? 17:28:59 <Brianetta> ah 17:29:03 <glx> it can IIRC 17:29:07 <Brianetta> so you need a program, not a midi device? 17:29:07 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:41 <Sacro> i think i got it working with my audigy once 17:33:43 <Sacro> using soundfonts 17:33:59 <Brianetta> Sacro: I have a Roland piano wired into my PC. 17:34:04 <Brianetta> I don't need soft-anything. 17:34:06 <Sacro> Brianetta: epic :D 17:34:26 <Sacro> sigh, wikimedia needs to sue 118118 17:36:28 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-73-151.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has joined #openttd 17:41:22 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad84b5c.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:42:02 <Sacro> haha 17:42:18 <Sacro> "the Belugas calf is born head or tail first" 17:42:26 <Sacro> so you mean never sideways? 17:46:50 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm247.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:47:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad84b74.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:07 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 17:54:06 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.185.190.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [] 17:55:03 <Celestar> I'm off 17:55:18 <Celestar> have a nice weekend all 17:55:20 <Celestar> \o 17:55:30 <Sacro> night Celestar 17:55:39 *** StarLionIsaac [~chatzilla@user-5445016b.lns3-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]] 17:55:52 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p54971CFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:59:07 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-73-151.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:11:49 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 18:14:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd Powered by YARRSTE version: svn-trunk