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joined #openttd 08:47:32 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 08:47:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 08:49:28 <planetmaker> morning 08:54:42 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:57:43 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:05:42 <Celestar> morning 09:06:03 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-162-219.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:07:49 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-136-205.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 09:07:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.178.138] has joined #openttd 09:16:34 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:34 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:37 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 09:33:32 <Celestar> idiots. Air Berlin wants 25 EUR fuel surcharge from Munich to Hamburg. 09:33:53 <Celestar> the whole fuel for a single passenger costs hardly that much.... 09:48:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.178.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:53:26 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:57:26 <Celestar> oh man. why are word processors that horrible in creating texts :P 09:57:53 <planetmaker> Celestar: otherwise they'd be called text processors. Not word processors ;) 09:58:18 <Celestar> apparently :P 09:58:23 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58:27 <Celestar> it's really a pita 09:58:54 <Celestar> it's ok as long as you have a single column document with no pictures or anything 10:01:11 <planetmaker> hehe, yes. LaTeX rulez ;) 10:01:32 <Celestar> yes. but those people want their abstracts in *.doc or *.rtf 10:01:41 <Celestar> and I don't have a decent latex-to-rtf converter 10:01:42 <planetmaker> but it's not good at placing images in an exact location either... 10:01:51 <planetmaker> Celestar: yeah, I know that problem... 10:01:57 <planetmaker> Send it in plain txt. 10:03:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:07:10 <Rubidium> Celestar: plain text file, rename to .doc 10:07:36 <Rubidium> or use some exotic variant of *.doc 10:13:45 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:17:14 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-136-205.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:48 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-191-160.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 10:25:01 <Eddi|zuHause> make the .tex into a .pdf, put the .pdf into the .doc as an embedded OLE Object? 10:26:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, you have to abuse these kind of rules to the furthest way possible ;) 10:26:25 <Celestar> yeah 10:26:44 <Celestar> like many of my colleagues who send screenshots in a word document :S 10:27:04 <planetmaker> arg...! 10:27:59 <Eddi|zuHause> as long as the screenshot is a BMP or a TIFF ;) 10:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> why does my diploma thesis not write itself? 10:29:08 <Rubidium> because your thesis research about self writing theses is flawed 10:29:41 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, but then at least i'd have a basis to argue why it's flawed ;) 10:30:39 <Eddi|zuHause> scientifical studies do not have to yield "success" to get good grades ;) 10:31:13 <Eddi|zuHause> it wouldn't be science when we knew the results beforehand ;) 10:31:44 <Rubidium> yup.. as long as you describe exhaustively how you research is flawed you'll get a good grade 10:31:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.178.138] has joined #openttd 10:33:51 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 10:35:10 <Celestar> I've already given out a 1.0 once for a thesis that discovered that some modelling approach failed and explained the reasons in detail. 10:36:41 <Rubidium> hmm... German grades? What would it be if graded from 1 (worst) to 10 (best) (6 = pass) 10:39:25 <Rubidium> interesting rounding... 2- -> 2.3, 2+ -> 1.7 10:49:52 <Eddi|zuHause> 1=best 10:51:02 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's perfectly well rounded from 2.333... and 1.6666... to 1 decimal 10:53:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: the really interesting question is why do you need 4 different shades of "not passed"? 10:54:50 <Rubidium> no idea 10:54:53 <Eddi|zuHause> or 5 even 10:56:13 <Celestar> Rubidium: 1.0 is the best (= 10:56:25 <Rubidium> probably the same reason that for beta courses (science stuff) to get a 6 you need 60% correct and for alpha courses (language stuff) you need 80% correct to get a 6 (i.e. pass). Why may you make twice the amount of errors for beta courses than for alpha courses? 10:56:54 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: it's mathematically consistent though ;) 10:57:08 <Rubidium> the Danish system amazes me even more 10:57:55 <Rubidium> highest grade ranges from -3 to 12 in 7 steps (according to Wikipedia) 10:57:55 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 10:58:29 <Eddi|zuHause> errr... what?! 11:00:17 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(education)#Denmark 11:01:31 <Rubidium> hmm... and I seem to be writing other things than I thought I wrote :( 11:04:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:47 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:34:57 <petern> whoops 11:35:24 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0DD0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:35:42 <petern> just managed to create a file called "*.blah" where ".blah" is a common ending for lots of files in the directory... 11:37:41 *** weltende [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6] 11:37:43 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 11:45:00 <Celestar> O_o 11:45:14 <Celestar> the Bugatti Veyron GT will have a peak power of 1MW 11:45:21 <Celestar> 425km/h. 11:45:32 <Celestar> hm .. an ICE 3 can reach the same velocty with about 9 MW. 11:45:40 <Celestar> yet it offers 400 seats instead of two. 11:45:42 <mrfrenzy> but not as fast ;) 11:46:01 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: the ICE 3 can go over 400km/h 11:46:12 <mrfrenzy> I'm talking about acceleration 11:46:14 <Celestar> yeah. 11:46:17 <Celestar> true 11:46:30 <Celestar> then 11:46:31 <mrfrenzy> still, a roadcar with over 300hp is ridiculous 11:46:47 <Celestar> the Veyron at max speed empties a fuel tank in just under 12 minutes. 11:47:07 <Celestar> refuelling for 6 minutes every 12 minutes has a pretty shitty effect on your mean velocity :P 11:47:13 <mrfrenzy> indeed ;) 11:47:18 <Celestar> 12 Minutes. 11:47:29 <Celestar> I doubt even a fighter jet manages to drain the tanks in 12 Minutes. 11:47:46 <Celestar> the Space Shuttle needs almost 9 :P 11:48:01 <Celestar> ok granted, it's tank is a bit larger... 11:48:50 <mrfrenzy> I think with afterburners it empties the tank in 10 minutes or so 11:48:58 <mrfrenzy> but then the speed is a lot higher than the veyron ;) 11:49:55 <Celestar> about Mach 2 :P 11:50:08 <Celestar> well the Veyron GT needs 2.4 seconds from 0 to 100km/h 11:50:15 <Celestar> and 2.2 seconds for 100km/h to 0. 11:51:36 <Celestar> let's see. 11:52:07 <Celestar> a Piper Malibu Mirage has 6 seats, a top speed of 430km/h, the same price and a range of 2500kmh 11:52:11 <Celestar> 2500km* 11:53:16 <Celestar> and it can have a loo :P 11:54:05 <mrfrenzy> I doubt anyone gets the veyron for cost efficiency ;) 11:54:12 <Celestar> I'm not talk about cost 11:54:16 <Celestar> I'm talking about performance :P 11:54:40 <mrfrenzy> but I see you are doing openttd calculations ;) amount of cargotiles per day vs investment and running 11:54:43 <mrfrenzy> costs 11:54:43 <Celestar> and, I go 430km/h in most airspaces. On highways, it get's a _little_ difficult 11:54:46 <Celestar> lol 11:55:00 <mrfrenzy> it's in the blodd 11:55:47 <Celestar> If you wanna go from A to B FAST (if the distance is over like 100km), a car is usually not a good way to do so 11:56:31 <mrfrenzy> yep we noticed that, going from jonkoping sweden to berlin, six people, is cheaper by plane than it is sharing a car 11:56:47 <Celestar> if I want bragging rights, I get an A380 for personal transportation not a Veyron 11:57:30 <mrfrenzy> the A380 is just damn hard to bring to parties :P 11:57:49 <Celestar> what good is that? You have the party IN the A380. 11:58:43 <Celestar> and if you throw people outta the party if you don't like them, you can be pretty sure they'll never return again (= 11:59:09 <mrfrenzy> that's an added feature I would have liked a few times :P 11:59:20 <thingwath> is it possible to throw out things from plane while in air? 11:59:30 <mrfrenzy> most certainly 11:59:31 <Celestar> possible, and allowed 11:59:42 <Celestar> you just have to make sure it doesn't cause damage on the ground :P 11:59:43 <mrfrenzy> how do you think parachute jumpers get out? 12:00:00 <thingwath> from A380? 12:00:04 <Celestar> they diffuse through the hull 12:00:09 <mrfrenzy> :P 12:00:15 <Celestar> thingwath: there are in-flight emergency exits. 12:00:28 <Celestar> at least the prototype of the Do328 had one 12:01:06 <thingwath> I can imagine throwing out things from bomber :-) 12:01:43 <Celestar> er .. price for Munich-Hamburg round trip on the ICE went down from over 400 EUR to 137 EUR O_o 12:02:13 <thingwath> :-) 12:02:19 <Celestar> two people 12:02:21 * Celestar books it 12:03:00 <Celestar> that's not bad for an 800km trip 12:03:17 <Celestar> (one way) 12:04:22 <mrfrenzy> It still puzzles me though that train is more expensive than air 12:04:33 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: why does it puzzle you 12:04:57 <mrfrenzy> the running costs should be lower, at the same time as it takes more pax 12:04:58 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:06 <Celestar> infrastructure cost for trains grow superlinearly with distance. infrastructure cost for planes are basically independent of distance. 12:05:11 <mrfrenzy> electricity is a hell of a lot more efficient 12:05:17 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: it's not. 12:05:48 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: overall efficiency of an electric train is comparable to a modern airplane. 12:06:41 <Rubidium> Celestar: that depends on the distance and the cargo ;) 12:06:48 <mrfrenzy> ooh, it was a lot more efficient than I ghought 12:07:00 <Celestar> Rubidium: distance from about 500-800km, cargo is human beings. 12:07:06 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: what is more efficient than you thought? 12:07:12 <mrfrenzy> jet engines 12:07:25 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: most modern power plants are modified jet engines, you know (= 12:07:28 <mrfrenzy> I thought it was similar to internal combustion engines 12:08:27 <Celestar> internatl combustion engines are not bad, provided you run them at around rated power. 12:08:44 <Celestar> they're horrible in part-loads 12:08:47 <mrfrenzy> well that is the problem 12:08:55 <mrfrenzy> you only run them at rated load for 1% of the time 12:09:00 <Celestar> yeah 12:09:08 <Celestar> but jet engines are different 12:09:16 <Celestar> better in part load, and more often run at rated output 12:10:00 <mrfrenzy> yeah, I assume it has been calculated at which speeds you get best fuel economy 12:10:25 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: yes. 12:10:55 <Celestar> mrfrenzy: the thing is, what one has to understand with fixed-wing aircraft is that drag does not increase with v². 12:11:36 <mrfrenzy> this is all very interesting, but I have to go back to work now ;) laters 12:11:47 <Celestar> (= 12:17:31 <Celestar> bah 12:17:42 <Celestar> why doesn't some people understand the GPL 12:20:06 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B831F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:39 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80C28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:22:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:25:40 <petern> don't! 12:26:12 <Celestar> er... 12:26:14 <Celestar> yeah 12:26:15 <Celestar> sorry :P 12:28:30 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29:24 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.253] has joined #openttd 12:31:09 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-64-33.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:34:20 <Ammler> Celestar: there should be a cc license like gpl 12:35:06 <Ammler> without the warranty thing. 12:36:27 <planetmaker> ? 12:39:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D85F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:51 <dihedral> que? 12:42:28 <Ammler> mÀh? 12:45:10 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has joined #openttd 12:46:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.178.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49:52 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F129.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:43 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:03:18 <Celestar> phew 13:03:21 <Celestar> Abstract finished :P 13:07:36 <davis-> gz 13:08:05 <SmatZ> gratz :) 13:10:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:13:03 <Celestar> bah. 13:13:13 <Celestar> rtfs and images are basically incompatible, aren't they? 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NEXT EPISODE!] 14:00:42 *** Atya [zordmester@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:00:47 <Atya> hi all 14:03:42 *** Atya [zordmester@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 14:04:01 *** Atya [zordmester@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:06:00 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FD33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:09 <fjb> Hello 14:08:28 <yorick> hello 14:09:34 <SmatZ> hello 14:12:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:12:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:15:30 *** Atya [zordmester@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 14:17:24 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:17:48 *** Atya [~zordmeste@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:18:38 *** Atya [~zordmeste@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 14:22:55 *** questionmark [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:23:13 *** yorick is now known as Guest1254 14:23:13 *** questionmark is now known as yorick 14:26:48 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:26:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:27:50 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn14-26.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:28:45 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:29:11 *** Guest1254 [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:26 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:32:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:26 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 14:41:13 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-202-66.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:08 <nicfer> question, is possible to reduce the amount of farms fields? 14:53:37 <planetmaker> answer: no. Unless you modify source code. 14:53:56 <planetmaker> (or build on the space where they are) 14:54:26 <nicfer> oh, like adding 'fields' to other industries right? 14:58:20 <yorick> adding them to other industries is a newgrf feature 14:58:33 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 14:58:38 <nicfer> oh cool 14:59:57 <nicfer> so it would be possible a grf that adds fields to all primary industries, if you made the graphics? 15:00:16 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:01:06 <Ammler> nicfer: you can only enable/disable it, nothing more 15:01:27 <Ammler> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Industries#Special_industry_flags_to_define_special_behavior_1A_ 15:01:56 *** Atya [~zordmeste@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 15:02:05 *** Atya [~zordmeste@dsl51B77E82.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 15:03:17 <Ammler> if you would change the graphics, you would also change it for the farms, afaik. 15:03:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:31 <nicfer> ok, I'll forget it 15:05:25 <nicfer> I'll focus now on changing the temperate forest with the tropical 'sawmill' 15:05:36 <nicfer> or was it lumberjack? 15:06:52 <yorick> also a grf feature ;) 15:06:55 <Ammler> nicfer: something like that: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=39564 ;-) 15:07:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.198.41] has joined #openttd 15:09:08 <Ammler> maybe the Industry Tile properity could help you: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0IndustryTiles 15:10:12 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C38D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:32 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 15:12:38 <nicfer> Ammler's solution is good 15:14:16 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FD33.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:21 <DASPRiD> pm :) 15:15:39 * planetmaker waves 'hello' 15:17:32 * yorick waves 'hello' 15:24:05 <nicfer> one question, is there some alpha release of the open sound effects project? 15:25:12 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 15:27:20 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.253] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:27:48 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:53 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 15:29:03 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32:26 *** TMS [~TMS@208-104-141-120.rhhe1.2wcm.comporium.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:11 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 15:35:52 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:08 *** TMS [~TMS@208-104-141-120.rhhe1.2wcm.comporium.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:44 *** gynter [~gynter@77-233-65-66.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:27 * DASPRiD waves http://stuff.dasprids.de/tetris-cover.mp3 to planetmaker 15:45:53 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 15:47:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:47:25 <Ammler> DASPRiD: use /msg, else someone else then pm might snatch it... ;-) 15:47:37 <DASPRiD> Ammler, they may :) 15:47:55 <DASPRiD> just listen to it :) 15:48:29 <planetmaker> :) Ok, when I'm home :) 15:48:57 <DASPRiD> nah you can listen to it at work 15:48:57 <DASPRiD> also 15:49:03 <DASPRiD> http://stuff.dasprids.de/new-tetris-cover.mp3 15:49:16 <DASPRiD> thats a pretty awesome cover 15:49:35 <DASPRiD> my cover is just half as good as that one :( 15:53:27 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-72-183.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has joined #openttd 15:55:45 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-72-183.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [] 15:56:19 *** TMS 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OpenTTD: catalan - 1 fixed by arnaullv (1) 18:48:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: croatian - 43 fixed by knovak (43) 18:48:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: esperanto - 3 fixed by Athaba (3) 18:48:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: estonian - 8 fixed by t2t2 (8) 19:02:01 *** SuomiPoika [SuomiPoika@a91-152-72-81.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:02:19 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 19:03:21 <SuomiPoika> hi 19:07:33 <yorick> hi 19:09:59 <DJNekkid> hi 19:10:01 <DJNekkid> :) 19:13:32 <DJNekkid> hmm 19:13:56 <DJNekkid> how come wagons dont dissappear when they expire? and yes, "never expire"-setting is off 19:19:54 <DJNekkid> wow, lively here today 19:20:37 <Patrick> DJNekkid: they just get obsolete 19:20:38 <Patrick> iirc 19:20:47 <Patrick> and don't whine when you don't get an instant answer 19:21:38 <yorick> you shouldn't answer questions you know get asked 19:21:50 <yorick> and then you get those questions and instant answers ;) 19:22:28 <DJNekkid> Patrick: well, sorry about that ... however... i'm the author of the 2cc set (in case you didnt know), but the wagons that use extended date format (action0 prop 2A) dont seem to go away as they should 19:22:49 <Patrick> no idea then 19:23:42 <DJNekkid> hehe, didnt think so ;) 19:24:27 <yorick> you're the spiritual descendant of the newgrf gods, you should know... 19:25:36 <DJNekkid> huh? 19:25:42 <SuomiPoika> Reason: Assertion failed at ..\src\spritecache.cpp:492: sprite < _spritecache_items 19:25:47 <SuomiPoika> what does that mean? 19:26:03 <SuomiPoika> crash report... 19:26:28 <DJNekkid> my guess is a bug in the nightlies 19:26:37 <DJNekkid> and/or a newgrf 19:26:46 <SuomiPoika> it is nightly... 19:26:49 <SuomiPoika> :P 19:31:07 <SuomiPoika> is there going to be translated version of ottd homepage? 19:31:29 <SuomiPoika> just thinking bc of the address http://www.openttd.org/fi/ 19:34:00 <SpComb> "This privacy statement is based on an original template created by website-contracts.co.uk and distributed by freenetlaw.com" 19:36:27 <Aali> SuomiPoika: did you file a bug report about the font issue? 19:38:41 <petern> DJNekkid, ottd has never expired wagons 19:38:51 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:59 <DJNekkid> petern: so it seems... 19:39:10 <DJNekkid> i mean, that is my conclution as well 19:39:48 <DJNekkid> i did some testing playing with some numbers... 19:39:56 <DJNekkid> is that possible to add tho? 19:43:17 <DJNekkid> or is it possible to use some kind of var2 to remove them... hmm 19:47:01 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 19:50:10 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:50:10 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:10 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 19:50:31 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:57 <Aali> hmm 19:56:12 <Aali> does the close airports patch have any chance of hitting trunk? 19:58:03 <planetmaker> Aali: if the gui is reworked, maybe 19:58:07 <SuomiPoika> aali i didnt make bug report.. im too dum :D 20:00:09 <Aali> SuomiPoika: heh, just take a screenshot, type in something along the lines of "finnish uses this unreadable font for no reason" and you'll be fine 20:01:09 <Aali> planetmaker: whats wrong with the current gui? (from the devs standpoint, personally i dont like it either) 20:01:55 <planetmaker> Aali: I remember that someone somewhen mentioned that a "close airport" button for train stations and bus stops is somehwat... not needed and sub-standard 20:02:09 <planetmaker> and I agree with that :) 20:02:16 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.8] has joined #openttd 20:02:18 <Aali> yeah, thats awful 20:02:37 <Aali> and the button is more than a little too big 20:02:44 <planetmaker> :) 20:02:55 <planetmaker> You're going to tackle it? 20:03:02 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.8] has quit [] 20:03:56 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 20:03:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:05:25 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:05:58 <Aali> err, probably not unless there's a real interest from the devs to include it 20:06:49 <planetmaker> I've no good idea how to re-design the gui though. A 2nd button line is needed in that case. 20:07:18 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C38D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:21 <Aali> a small graphical button could do it, saves you the extra line, too 20:10:01 <Aali> not as obvious and easy to find, but if you know what you're looking for it should be okay 20:10:33 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 20:11:59 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577AEDBF.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:21:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:26 <planetmaker> hm... I just got an idea... how to seperate that stuff... 20:23:42 <planetmaker> not about the button, though, but that's the minor worry actually IMO 20:24:22 <fjb> Infrastructure sharing? 20:25:43 <Aali> fjb: close airports :) 20:25:48 <planetmaker> not really. close airports 20:25:55 <planetmaker> but very handy for IS... 20:27:37 <fjb> Ah, ok, guessing it from 4 lines of text was not that easy as I thought. 20:28:30 <planetmaker> hm... given stationID... how do I determin whether it has an airport or not? 20:28:53 <petern> facilities 20:29:12 *** nicfer [~Nicolas@168.226.104.8] has joined #openttd 20:31:27 <planetmaker> that's part of station. 20:31:34 <planetmaker> Is there GetStation(stationID) 20:31:41 <frosch123> yes 20:31:49 <planetmaker> k :) 20:32:02 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 20:35:25 <nicfer> erm, are there any newgrf that does something similar to the OCS, aka putting all the primary industries that aren't in temperate in there and making secondary industries accepting their cargos? 20:36:40 <frosch123> not that I know of 20:37:11 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:38:03 <frosch123> when you want to code it yourself you have to take a look at Action0 for cargos and industries. (and the always needed Action8) 20:38:03 <planetmaker> Thx a lot, frosch123, petern - now it works. I guess I should more often just try on good chance the obvious function name for such conversions ;) 20:39:01 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:10 <frosch123> planetmaker: hint, those GetXXX functions are created by the create pool macro. So they work all the same :) 20:40:01 <planetmaker> ah :) Another thing learnt... :) Macros are still a mystery to me... poking in the fog ;) 20:40:32 <nicfer> because I find current industry replacement newgrfs kinda unfitting to the original ones 20:48:27 <frosch123> nicfer: you can also wait until http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Peter1138/Towngrowth_Challenge is finished 20:49:04 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 20:49:11 <nicfer> hmmm, wasn't Korenn working on it? 20:50:15 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.84.9.101] has joined #openttd 20:51:00 <batti5> hi all, i finally got timidity to work with ottd 20:51:16 <yorick> oh 20:51:37 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.84.9.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:13 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.23] has joined #openttd 20:57:44 <nicfer> batti5 = jasperthecat right? 21:04:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:07:05 <yorick> I hope not... 21:12:48 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 21:13:27 <nicfer> when the towngrowth challenge becomes complete, would be available the industry layout as a separate component so it can be used outside of that mod¿ 21:14:13 <DJNekkid> isnt 15k population a bit small to be a capital-class city? 21:14:42 <planetmaker> the close airport button now only appears, if the station has an airport :) 21:15:00 <DJNekkid> atleast, 15k5c as max size... 21:26:47 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:06 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:30:35 *** questionmark [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:30:44 *** yorick is now known as Guest1302 21:30:45 *** questionmark is now known as yorick 21:32:27 *** Muxy [~Benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:37 *** Muxy [~Benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [] 21:35:36 *** Guest1302 [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:48 <Aali> planetmaker: couldn't you just hide the button when the station doesn't have an airport? duplicating the whole station window to make some minor changes isn't very pretty :P 21:39:20 <planetmaker> That's - as I understand it - not possible by design. 21:39:46 <planetmaker> you have to supply a widget list upon creation. Thus the widget list needs to be doubled. 21:40:01 <planetmaker> And that's the only thing which I double. 21:40:18 <planetmaker> The widget arangement. 21:40:23 <Aali> sure, but you can still hide widgets in the OnPaint method 21:41:02 <planetmaker> oh, yes? I didn't know that. But then, the window size is different... 21:41:02 <Aali> there will be an empty spot where the button is, of course 21:41:08 <frosch123> planetmaker: take a look at the QueryWindows 21:41:16 <planetmaker> Which again looks a bit funny, Aali 21:41:21 <Aali> indeed 21:41:23 <frosch123> some of them have a reset to default button, some do not 21:41:34 <yorick> planetmaker: SetWidgetHiddenState 21:41:55 <planetmaker> hm... I'll look at it... :) 21:42:06 <Aali> can you resize widgets in the OnPaint method? 21:42:09 <planetmaker> frosch123: which query windows? E.g. land tile query? or...? 21:42:19 <yorick> Aali: yep 21:42:36 <planetmaker> Aali: yes... but the button has text. It would look ugly 21:42:47 <Aali> so, we remove the text 21:42:50 <yorick> you can redraw the text 21:42:58 <frosch123> planetmaker: text input windows 21:43:05 <planetmaker> ah, those... 21:43:49 <Aali> a small graphical button that fits in with the other buttons could be squeezed in for airports and hidden for other stations 21:44:05 <Aali> like a stop sign or whatever 21:44:21 <planetmaker> Aali: my idea was to make a 2nd button line with the same buttons as road/ship/train/air - but with the functionality to close that transportation type 21:44:38 <planetmaker> (like those buttons which supply the vehicle lists) 21:44:42 <yorick> just add a resizing button and hide it if there's not an airport 21:44:59 <Aali> i thought about that too, but closing other station types doesn't make much sense 21:45:04 <planetmaker> yorick: there is already a resizing button. 21:45:11 <planetmaker> Aali: it does with IS ;) 21:45:12 <yorick> yes :) 21:45:25 <yorick> Aali: I said hide it ;) 21:46:13 <Aali> well, the problem is that it affects the whole station 21:46:26 <yorick> make a "close airport" 21:46:31 <Aali> if you could close individual road stops/platforms that would be great 21:46:41 <Aali> but thats not going to happen 21:46:47 <planetmaker> Aali: there's a removal tool... ;) 21:48:05 <fjb> And signals (for closing platforms). 21:50:07 <Aali> I don't see how that makes the station-closing feature more useful 21:51:03 <Aali> the problem with airports is that you can't stop aircraft in the air, the other vehicles don't have this problem 21:51:15 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:21 <planetmaker> Aali: again: with IS you have ;) 21:51:37 <Aali> not really 21:52:01 <planetmaker> for road & ship you do. Not for train where you can control trains on your tracks 21:52:06 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52:20 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:52:31 <Aali> you can still stop your RVs and block the road (if you don't own the road) 21:53:21 <planetmaker> sure, you can do that :) 21:54:15 <Aali> and ships? dont know, dont care :P 21:55:36 <ccfreak2k> Make 'em queue in a lock? 21:56:15 <fjb> No, ships pass through each other like ghost ships. 21:56:35 <Aali> since no-one can own water i guess you could just raise land around your docks 22:00:48 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:07 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 22:01:32 <fjb> What happens if you blow up all the water around the ship? 22:02:07 <yorick> it floods back from the shiptile 22:02:36 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 22:02:39 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 22:03:19 <fjb> So you have to blow up the ship too. 22:03:41 <yorick> you can't 22:05:19 <fjb> But there is a submarine in the game. 22:06:31 <yorick> so? 22:07:45 <fjb> You can blow up ships. 22:07:56 <Belugas> you can? 22:07:59 <Belugas> wooooo 22:08:22 <fjb> Ofcourse. What else is a black submarine for? 22:09:06 <nicfer> I know how to block a ship 22:09:24 <nicfer> just cage it inside some ship depots 22:10:03 <Aali> see, that is some creative thinking 22:10:08 <Aali> problem solved 22:10:13 <nicfer> I've seen it in some mp servers 22:10:15 <nicfer> lol 22:10:21 <nicfer> sabotagers... 22:10:46 <nicfer> so, say thanks to unfair people 22:13:08 <Aali> total asshole tactic - yes, unfair - not really 22:14:31 <nicfer> one question, do ttdpatch devs help in the development of openttd? 22:15:17 <Rubidium> yes 22:16:04 <nicfer> as well as the inverse method right? 22:16:12 <nicfer> method -> way 22:16:27 <frosch123> some patchdevs even contributed patches 22:16:33 <Rubidium> that too (I think) 22:16:33 <frosch123> I do not know about the reverse 22:17:08 <Rubidium> frosch123: pointing out bugs/inconsistencies etc 22:17:17 <Eddi|zuHause> 80% of the development of openttd were driven by the fact that ttdpatch already had feature XYZ 22:17:36 <frosch123> yes, I meant noone wrote code for ttdp 22:17:49 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: lately it seems to be shifting the other way around 22:18:03 <Eddi|zuHause> no sane person writes code in assembler :p 22:18:22 <nicfer> except chris sawyer 22:18:27 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: I have read NoAI is as big as newgrf. Haven't checked myself though 22:18:30 <Eddi|zuHause> well... but probably s/in assembler// :p 22:19:05 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: no sane person writes good code ;p 22:19:12 <Aali> NoAI is 1.3MB in patch format 22:19:20 <fjb> We are all insane! 22:19:26 <nicfer> this is madness! 22:19:36 <Eddi|zuHause> are you going to deny your insanity? 22:20:03 <nicfer> madness? this is sparta!!! 22:20:11 <fjb> I am writing code. So I am. 22:20:12 <nicfer> lol, I couldn't resist 22:21:33 <Rubidium> frosch123: linecount of newgrf* is about 15000, linecount of ai/*.?pp and ai/api/*.?pp is about 15500 (that is without generated code) 22:22:30 <Eddi|zuHause> but newgrf* had a longer development time 22:24:05 <Rubidium> that's probably debateable depending on the definition of longer 22:25:23 <Eddi|zuHause> most code metrics are debatable... 22:26:12 <Eddi|zuHause> and newgrf* is not the only thing that was driven by prior TTDP development 22:26:19 <fjb> The town growth challenge looks like fun. I just saw it today while looking for the rail and road type pages. 22:26:37 <Rubidium> one code metric I'm quite sure of: lines of comment per lines of real code ratio of NoAI is bigger than newgrf* 22:26:46 <Eddi|zuHause> is "the town growth challenge" anything more than a wiki page? 22:27:18 <fjb> In the beginning was a wiki page... 22:27:29 *** yorick [yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 22:32:32 <fjb> Is there a testable version of the rail and road types? 22:38:12 <Rubidium> most likely there is; petern does usually not make mockups 22:40:06 <fjb> I know that he doesn't make mockups. The question was if it is in a testable state yet. 22:41:52 <fjb> Hm, I had a link to Peters directory with some patches (e.g. bridges over low platforms) but I don't find it anymore. 22:53:21 *** meush [~opera@76-10-168-110.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 22:54:29 *** meush [~opera@76-10-168-110.dsl.teksavvy.com] has left #openttd [] 23:03:03 *** rortom [~rortom_@5aca9752.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 23:08:41 *** nicfer [~Nicolas@168.226.104.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09:46 *** Tilly14 [~BlueEagle@93-125-195-225.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 23:09:57 *** Tilly14 is now known as BlueEagle_NL 23:10:44 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:11:09 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 23:11:52 <BlueEagle_NL> hello nite_owl 23:14:13 *** meush [~Amadeusz@76-10-168-110.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 23:17:02 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Enohp eht no S'enilorac, Regor... 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Egassem terces eht derevocsid tsuj evah uoy, sn] 23:19:16 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:20:57 <fjb> Hi Nite_Owl 23:23:44 <meush> hi Sacro :P 23:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> fjb: i can find it. 23:25:14 *** BlueEagle_NL [~BlueEagle@93-125-195-225.dsl.alice.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:26:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3bf3.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28:17 <Sacro> argh a meush 23:28:25 <Sacro> long time no see, how are you? 23:28:26 <meush> it's been a long time Sacro 23:28:31 <meush> I'm in Canada now 23:28:38 <meush> with Belugas :p 23:28:57 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 23:28:57 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:28:58 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 23:29:12 <meush> how about you? 23:29:20 <meush> are you on university? 23:29:27 <Sacro> ooh, i'm still in hull, at uni 23:29:31 <Sacro> yeah, 2nd year CS 23:30:09 <meush> is it in engineering faculty? would you mind sharing a bit info with me? 23:30:19 <meush> I'm still a bit confused about universities here 23:30:45 <Sacro> errm.. not sure what to say 23:30:51 <Sacro> is in the science faculty 23:30:57 <meush> okay 23:31:10 <meush> CS is computer science, isn't it? 23:32:09 *** Lachie [LachlanSte@121.216.46.251] has joined #openttd 23:32:13 <meush> do you deal with hardware, or do you rather write software? 23:33:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D85F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:59 <meush> brb 23:37:00 <meush> cya 23:40:17 <Sacro> Yep 23:40:20 <Sacro> ah, alright 23:40:34 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd