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00:05:06 *** bleepy [bleepy@5adad49a.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:05:31 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 00:09:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-202-66.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:09:37 *** bleepy [bleepy@5adad49a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:44 *** meush [~Amadeusz@76-10-168-110.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:53 *** bleepy [bleepy@5adad49a.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:15:16 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:05 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:19:19 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 00:27:27 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 00:27:59 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 00:29:54 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 00:31:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.198.41] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:32:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75A25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:33:24 <Wolf01> 'night 00:33:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:35:32 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:36:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43:55 *** benjamingoodger [~ben@host81-153-83-31.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:45:59 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:15 <Belugas> hu?? meush in in Canada? ? 00:48:20 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:52:11 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228010241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 00:55:16 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F129.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:04:13 * rortom is not in Canada 01:05:07 * Eddi|zuHause is not either 01:06:27 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:08:34 * benjamingoodger is 2130 miles away from canada 01:08:40 <benjamingoodger> ish 01:26:28 <Belugas> i'm in canada 01:26:35 <Belugas> i'm in my house 01:26:46 <Belugas> i'm on my chair 01:26:53 <benjamingoodger> we know, damn it 01:26:54 <benjamingoodger> ¬.¬ 01:26:57 <Belugas> i'm back to tv time 01:28:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14641 /trunk/src/video/ (allegro_v.cpp sdl_v.cpp): 01:28:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change [Allegro]: when making a debug build revert Allegro's hooks on SIGSEGV/SIGABRT so one can actually use gdb. 01:28:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change: make it more clear that Allegro's failing to find a driver. 01:28:49 * rortom is in england :| 01:28:56 * benjamingoodger is in england also 01:31:34 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h80.183.30.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:31:41 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 01:34:32 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-191-160.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:38:39 <Belugas> don't be sorry, being in England is not bad :) 01:39:39 <Belugas> it's not a tare ;) 01:40:24 <benjamingoodger> tare? 01:55:11 <Belugas> mmh 01:55:14 <Belugas> bad dico 01:55:39 <Belugas> defect 01:55:46 <Belugas> taint 01:55:49 <Belugas> blemish 01:56:04 <Belugas> defect might be closer 01:56:16 <benjamingoodger> better 01:56:39 <benjamingoodger> "tare" is a button you push on electric scales so that they are reset to zero 01:59:05 <rortom> the weather and the economic situation is quite bad in the UK atm :/ 02:00:08 <benjamingoodger> really?! 02:00:10 <benjamingoodger> good lord 02:00:33 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-140-237.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:00:59 <rortom> yeah, british humor ftw :| 02:01:33 <benjamingoodger> I was so busy tidying up my little under-rock living space here that I completely failed to notice the sub-zero temperatures, job losses, foreclosures, businesses going into administration, and liquidity crisis 02:04:09 <rortom> ;) 02:04:45 <rortom> im german, and it hit the UK harder i believe? 02:05:01 <rortom> thus im not into the UK economy so much ;) 02:06:09 <benjamingoodger> yes 02:06:23 <benjamingoodger> we're screwed, germany is comparatively OK 02:08:38 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-140-237.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:44 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-225-183.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:13:37 <benjamingoodger> the problem being, the banks have been lending money to people who can't possibly pay it back 02:14:02 <benjamingoodger> some of them have recently realised that this is a bad idea 02:14:26 <benjamingoodger> so now most of them aren't lending money to anyone any more 02:15:04 <benjamingoodger> and this is generally viewed as a bad thing, because lending is the foundation of all business expansion, and also what keeps businesses running during recessions 02:15:55 <benjamingoodger> so businesses are closing down, banks are laying off tens of thousands of employees, people are becoming unemployed, spending less, more businesses fail, etc and we end up with a depression 02:17:38 <rortom> yeah 02:17:57 <rortom> quite down siral somehow 02:18:01 <rortom> *spiral 02:18:07 <benjamingoodger> german banks have not been lending nearly as much money to people who can't pay it back 02:18:16 <rortom> our company even cancelled christmas dinner :( 02:18:19 <benjamingoodger> french banks haven't been doing it very much at all, nor have spanish banks 02:18:40 <benjamingoodger> consequently france and spain are saying "recession? what recession?" 02:18:44 <benjamingoodger> as far as I can tell 02:18:47 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-225-183.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:54 <rortom> good for them :) 02:19:07 <benjamingoodger> quite 02:19:30 <rortom> but u think the US is the worst atm? 02:19:52 <rortom> google even cancels projects / frees employees ... 02:19:55 <benjamingoodger> difficult to say which is worse, the US or the UK 02:20:08 <benjamingoodger> the US is going into a worse recession 02:20:52 <benjamingoodger> however, you must realise that the whole economy of the UK is basically banks 02:20:59 <rortom> the downfall of the british pound is not funny :( 02:21:04 <benjamingoodger> if you take away our banks, we don't do anything 02:21:10 <rortom> its somehoe 1.2 02:21:15 <rortom> to euro :\ 02:21:24 <benjamingoodger> it was 1.11 earlier in the week... 02:21:27 <rortom> ouch 02:21:42 <rortom> i remember when it was like 1.5 or so :/ 02:21:51 <benjamingoodger> I remember when it was 1.8 02:21:53 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-233-144.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:21:56 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:57 <benjamingoodger> we don't build anything to speak of, we don't grow anything that we export to other countries 02:22:04 <Rubidium> it's 2 and has been for years! 02:22:41 <benjamingoodger> Rubidium: sterling is worth â¬1.18 02:22:54 <benjamingoodger> or .50-ish 02:22:59 <benjamingoodger> what has been 2 for years? 02:23:11 <Rubidium> not to forget that 1 dollar = 1 euro 02:23:40 <SmatZ> it was when Euro started... 02:23:42 <benjamingoodger> actually, the dollar is worth 78 eurocents 02:24:08 <SmatZ> then Euro went down 02:24:19 <SmatZ> but later dollar went even more down 02:24:31 <SmatZ> so now Euro is worth more than dollar 02:24:31 <benjamingoodger> yes 02:24:44 <benjamingoodger> actually, it is more appropriate to say that the euro went down, and then went up 02:24:53 <benjamingoodger> and then the dollar drove off a cliff 02:24:55 <SmatZ> not really 02:25:25 <benjamingoodger> Rubidium: what are you claiming is worth 2 of something else? 02:26:05 <SmatZ> EUR / CZK was ~22 at best.. now it is 25... USD / CZK was ~15, now it is ~20 02:27:52 <benjamingoodger> for me, a strong dollar is a good thing, I'm selling books in the US 02:28:08 <rortom> for me was well 02:28:16 <rortom> i get adsense income :\ 02:28:23 <benjamingoodger> aha 02:28:34 <SmatZ> benjamingoodger: if you live in US, then yes :) 02:28:50 <benjamingoodger> SmatZ: a strong dollar means that pounds are cheap to buy with my dollars 02:29:04 <benjamingoodger> since I want to end up with as many pounds as possible, this is a good thing 02:29:29 <rortom> same thought that i follow ;) 02:30:24 <SmatZ> but if you want to export your books, given the price for them is 10USD, they cost now ... 6? GBP... but when USD was worth loss, it cost only 4? GBP in UK 02:30:45 <SmatZ> so strong dollar makes it header to export (but simpler to import) 02:30:51 <SmatZ> for you (if you live in US) 02:31:00 <benjamingoodger> no, they're printed in tennessee 02:31:00 <SmatZ> *loss -> less 02:31:37 <benjamingoodger> the only importing I'm doing is importing the dollars earned from the books and selling them for pounds 02:31:52 <SmatZ> yeah, if you make and sell the books in US, the higher price of imported books helps you 02:32:44 <benjamingoodger> well, yes 02:33:23 <benjamingoodger> if I'm competing against booksellers who can produce the book for I don't want to be printing it in the UK for £4.50 and then shipping it to the US 02:33:59 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-233-144.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:34:17 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Quit: Quit] 02:34:36 <SmatZ> sorry I am too tired to talk or think, good night :) 02:36:02 <benjamingoodger> night 02:36:32 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 02:40:07 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-140-17.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:48:08 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-140-17.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:22 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-136-234.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:52:01 <Belugas> toum te doum tsoin tsoi 02:52:03 <Belugas> n 02:53:23 <benjamingoodger> tum ti tum indeed 02:53:57 <benjamingoodger> ah, it's far too late 02:53:58 <benjamingoodger> good night 02:55:42 <rortom> nite 02:58:43 <Belugas> nini dear tom 03:05:32 *** FloSoft` [~sifldoer@g230006049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:07:26 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229161086.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:26 *** FloSoft` is now known as FloSoft 03:14:33 *** vraa [~vraa@h176.188.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 03:17:26 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-136-234.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [] 03:21:20 *** rortom [~rortom_@5aca9752.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:22:22 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:41 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:23:07 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-11.43.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 03:23:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 03:24:03 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:25:05 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 03:26:09 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:27:57 *** Sacro [~sacro@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:35:32 *** Sacro [~sacro@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:00 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-11.43.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? 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NEXT EPISODE!] 08:56:31 *** globester` [~bleat@cc363166-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 08:57:01 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57:05 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:57:27 <globester`> in 0.6.3 it's intended that you can't scroll top-bottom normally? 09:07:53 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 09:08:08 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:22:12 *** globester` [~bleat@cc363166-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: <^bOog3ymAn_> give me the command to pu it in the popups when i click on to run a file who is in the file script] 09:28:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 09:58:30 *** vraa [~vraa@h176.188.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:26:34 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:26:50 <Wolf01> hello 10:27:10 <SmatZ> hello 10:28:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BBCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:29:11 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80719.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:32:26 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 10:35:55 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:56:19 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:38 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:47 *** cptreg [~cptreg@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:16:46 *** cptreg [~cptreg@121.165.245.124] has quit [] 11:16:52 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:18:06 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [] 11:18:12 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:19:07 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [] 11:20:32 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:22:34 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [] 11:22:39 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:23:12 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [] 11:23:17 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:23:47 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [] 11:23:52 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 11:36:07 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F890.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:54 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0DD0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:54 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41:04 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0D049.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:28 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:42:28 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42:34 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 11:50:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:51:41 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:52 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:58:33 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 12:02:44 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:57 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 12:10:22 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 12:18:08 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:23 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.198.41] has joined #openttd 12:25:28 <Splex> im trying to build a deb package for ubuntu intrepid by following the wiki but it keeps failing: cc -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions distclean.o -o distclean \cc: distclean.o: No such file or directory 12:31:31 <Alberth> Splex: my trunk source checkout does not contain any *dist* file 12:31:39 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:36:18 <Alberth> Splex: distclean is usually a Makefile target. 12:37:31 <SmatZ> Splex: what wiki? openttd wiki? 12:37:37 <Splex> yes 12:38:05 <Splex> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Compiling_on_Linux#Debian_package 12:40:13 <SmatZ> I don't know, I don't use debian 12:41:25 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:41:59 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:39 <Splex> actually, i just tried it again and it shows: "[SRC] No such source-file: distclean.[c|cpp|mm|rc]" when it enters the objs/release dir 12:52:42 <Alberth> Splex: you have to find out why it wants to build a distclean target. What Makefile are you running (and with what target)? Also, giving make a few debug options (--debug=b) may be helpful (there are also other debug flags, see make(1) for details. 12:56:01 <petern> alternatively, why do you need to make distclean? 12:56:30 <petern> or is that part of the deb script... heh 12:56:36 <Splex> Alberth: i followed the wiki for building a deb package. I did 'mv os/debian .' and then ran './configure' and 'make' and then 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us' 12:56:49 <Splex> petern: it is part of the script 12:57:34 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-coding 13:01:39 <Alberth> Splex: hmm, do you know what this "step 3" they talk about? In the final section of the wiki, they don't say anything about running configure and/or make btw. 13:01:58 <Alberth> +is 13:02:30 <Splex> if going by the outline of the 'contents' 13:02:43 <Splex> at the top of the page, then i suppose they mean it replaces 'compiling and running' 13:03:44 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:57 <Splex> it appears the ./configure and make i did was unnecessary... but it should not affect the package building as it should be doing a clean anyways 13:06:12 <Alberth> file a bug report 13:07:11 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 13:15:25 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 13:15:48 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:17:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:20:57 *** davis_ [~suckyours@p5B28F890.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:38 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F890.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.209.38] has joined #openttd 13:32:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.198.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:56 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:32 <Splex> strange... the build process works fine when run on a fresh checkout... but only once.. if run twice it has the same failure 13:51:00 <Alberth> Splex: that's probably why it has never been caught until now 13:52:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:27 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 14:05:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:08:24 <LadyHawk> hello people, could someone tell me if the nightly build fixes the passenger subsidy bug? (you won't get the subsidy if another passenger service is already in one of the towns stated in the subsidy) 14:09:04 <LadyHawk> i haven't had this once, but am getting it basically every time now in my game, as i have loads of passenger trains going from town to town 14:09:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm107.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:09:43 <LadyHawk> sorry Belugas, i went to sleep 14:09:45 <LadyHawk> lol 14:10:44 <mrfrenzy> LadyHawk: isn't the subsidy for the first established service only? 14:10:50 <LadyHawk> it never used to be 14:11:22 <mrfrenzy> a few years ago it was atleast 14:12:18 <LadyHawk> i've got a long ottd history, i'm not sure when this started 14:12:34 <LadyHawk> but i remember having 3-4 different services in 1 town and always got the new subsidy offers 14:12:53 <LadyHawk> it could well have been more than a few years 14:12:54 <LadyHawk> lol 14:13:18 <LadyHawk> it's just the first time i noticed it not giving me the subsidies 14:14:19 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C38D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:26 <fjb> Hello 14:14:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe692.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:14:38 <LadyHawk> 1 last thing i could try to do is stop all the other trains while the new train is making its run 14:15:33 <fjb> Quak frosch123 14:15:37 <LadyHawk> but if the subsidies are only supposed to work for the 1st service, why does it OFFER the new ones? 14:15:59 <LadyHawk> it just gives me the idea that something's not working right 14:17:31 <frosch123> moin fjb 14:18:45 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:26:03 <Alberth> LadyHawk: try to make a save game demonstrating the problem, and post it so we can have a look and discuss it. 14:28:14 <Alberth> LadyHawk: did you have a look in FlySpray, eg FS#265? 14:29:53 <LadyHawk> flyspray? 14:29:58 <LadyHawk> i'm unfamiliar with that 14:31:00 <LadyHawk> i'll load my saved game, set up a new subsidy train and save it... then i'll let it continue to see if i'll get it or not 14:31:04 <LadyHawk> if not, i'll post it 14:31:38 <LadyHawk> where would i post it though, i remember a bug forum at some point but things are so much different here since last time i came here 14:32:40 <Alberth> LadyHawk: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/265 14:32:50 *** Lachie [LachlanSte@121.216.46.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:27 <Alberth> LadyHawk: OpenTTD problems forum may be appropiate 14:33:43 <LadyHawk> thanks a lot 14:34:11 <LadyHawk> 265 14:34:13 <LadyHawk> that's the one 14:34:45 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 14:34:46 <Alberth> LadyHawk: and if you remove the last "/task/265" you get all others too :) 14:35:04 <LadyHawk> Reason for closing: Not a bug 14:35:04 <LadyHawk> Additional comments about closing: You have to connect the city centers, not the suburbs 14:35:06 <LadyHawk> hmm 14:35:21 <LadyHawk> i get subsidies if it's 1st service no matter if it's the outskirts of a town or the center 14:35:30 <LadyHawk> 2nd service from center i dont get 14:35:48 <LadyHawk> i think... i'll see if i can double check that too 14:36:03 <Alberth> and the 2nd is slightly futher away? 14:36:17 <LadyHawk> once a town grows you cant get to the center anymore 14:36:26 <LadyHawk> unless you hack your way through the town 14:37:03 <Alberth> the forums have a few discussions about that problem too, and even a patch with a fix 14:48:44 <LadyHawk> i'd rather have the dev team fix the problem, i don't really like having to go around and get different stuff 14:48:50 <LadyHawk> thats why i asked bout the nightly 14:48:55 <LadyHawk> but i'm glad this bug is known 14:48:59 <LadyHawk> ty for your info :) 14:51:58 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]] 14:57:11 <Alberth> Bug 265 is because of building not close enough to the town center. I doubt that passengers have anything to do with it. You should verify whether you can re-produce your problem while building close to the town center, and if so, make a save-game that demonstrates the problem. Then we can verify the problem, and devs have a case that actually fails (which is needed for debugging and for checking that their fix actually works) 14:57:28 <Patrick> otherwise it's a pebcak 14:59:43 <Rubidium> is that going to be a duplicate of FS#1075? 15:00:20 <Rubidium> or FS#1122 for that matter 15:03:46 <Splex> Alberth: I have reported the bug 15:05:41 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.117.35] has joined #openttd 15:05:58 <Splex> Alberth: I mean, the debian package one 15:06:24 <Alberth> Rubidium: LadyHawk has a problem about not getting passenger subsidies 15:06:54 <Alberth> Splex: I understood that, thanks (although I don't use debian packages) 15:08:15 <LadyHawk> [29/11][14:58:58] <Alberth> Bug 265 is because of building not close enough to the town center. I doubt that passengers have anything to do with it. You should verify whether you can re-produce your problem while building close to the town center, and if so, make a save-game that demonstrates the problem. 15:08:20 <LadyHawk> do station names have anything to do with that? 15:08:35 <LadyHawk> or just the positioning 15:08:38 <Rubidium> no, but the location of them does 15:08:46 <Rubidium> as that's the 'location' of the station 15:09:00 <LadyHawk> is there a way to calculate which part of the town is city center? 15:09:05 <LadyHawk> i assume it grows as the town grows 15:09:20 <LadyHawk> or is it only the part with the streetlights/trees 15:09:29 <Rubidium> it's 9 tiles from town center 15:09:43 <LadyHawk> doesnt grow with the town? that's gonna be hard 15:09:44 <Rubidium> and the town center is where the name is 15:10:06 <LadyHawk> and the station only has to be inside that area with 1 tile to catch it? 15:10:12 <Patrick> subsidies I guess were designed for the start game 15:10:15 <Patrick> as a little boost 15:10:29 <Rubidium> if that's the tile with the station "flag", then yes, otherwise no 15:10:32 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485BD5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:37 <Alberth> LadyHawk: the station name sign has to in it 15:10:42 <Alberth> +be 15:10:45 <LadyHawk> hmm 15:10:52 <LadyHawk> so the larger the station, the harder it is to get the sign inside it 15:11:12 <LadyHawk> cuz the station sign seems to be usually at the very wrong end of the station 15:11:31 * Rubidium feels like he's reiterating what's already in the closed bugreports and the numerous forum threads 15:11:39 <LadyHawk> the very other end is in the center 15:11:51 <LadyHawk> but the station sign is at the wrong end 15:12:00 <LadyHawk> i'll try to move my station and see if i can confirm i'mg etting the subsidy 15:12:47 <Alberth> LadyHawk: build a 1x1 station first, then build a larger station over it/against it 15:12:57 <LadyHawk> ya thats what i just did lol 15:13:20 <LadyHawk> that bit is 7 tiles away from the city name so it should catch in this theory 15:13:53 <LadyHawk> i've got it 15:13:59 <Alberth> Rubidium: it just demonstrates the 9 tile limit is not very intiuitive 15:14:01 <LadyHawk> and there is a 2nd service also going from that town 15:14:13 <LadyHawk> thanks for clearing this up for me 15:14:18 <LadyHawk> i appriciate it a lot :) 15:14:20 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C38D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:47 <Rubidium> Alberth: a lot isn't very intuitive, but what else do you want? 15:14:59 <Rubidium> if station has townname accept the subsidy? 15:15:31 <LadyHawk> thats what it *used* to be, but like i said before, i've got a very long ttd history, i dont know if that's how it first used to be with openttd or if it was changed later on 15:16:04 <LadyHawk> that's why it confused me 15:17:04 <LadyHawk> first ttd i played was the very original :) 15:17:19 <LadyHawk> then the expansion with the alternate view 15:17:19 <Alberth> Rubidium: if it within town-radius eg? (http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=745657#p745657) 15:17:40 <Rubidium> LadyHawk: well... in OpenTTD it has always been as it is now 15:17:58 <LadyHawk> ok i'll remember the 9 tiles thing 15:18:11 <LadyHawk> i musta gotten lucky the previous times i was building subsidy only 15:18:17 <Rubidium> Alberth: town radius extends beyond where the town actually is 15:18:54 <Alberth> Very wide outside the town no doubt :( 15:19:37 <Alberth> Maybe we should add a visual feed-back of 'this is a great place to build if you want a subsidy' 15:21:02 <Alberth> Rubidium: is the 9 tile limit used for other things? otherwise we could increase the limit as the town grows in some way 15:21:28 <Rubidium> oh... you thought it was for the town A to town B subsidy... I just shown the good spot for industry D from the industry C to industry D subsidy 15:21:56 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.117.35] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 15:22:51 <Rubidium> don't exactly know 15:23:48 <Patrick> mm, industrial subsidies 15:23:51 <Patrick> I forgot about them 15:28:11 <LadyHawk> i'm not sure what you guys are discussing at the moment but if the subsidy range for passengers from town A to B is increased as the town grows, it wont have an affect on industrial subsidies as the station needs to be in range of the industry 15:28:24 <LadyHawk> sorry if i completely got it wrong :p 15:29:37 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: wgrant 15:29:48 <Rubidium> it's about the feedback: "if you build a station here you are eligible for a subsidy" (which can be a different subsidy than the subsidy you want to actually take) 15:30:26 <LadyHawk> aha 15:30:54 <Alberth> LadyHawk: these problems come up too often, so we wonder how to make the game respond better. 15:31:03 *** Netsplit over, joins: wgrant 15:31:08 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-199.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:16 <LadyHawk> hmmm 15:32:40 <Alberth> LadyHawk: and as usual, alternatives are shot down very quickly, as they break in some way (which basically means the alternative is not good enough) 15:33:31 <LadyHawk> would it be possible to do like.. if a passenger subsidy comes up, and someone tries to place a station in the town with the subsidy, to make the station range go GREEN instead of blue if it's in range? 15:33:50 <LadyHawk> (i dont know how this is coded so dont know if this would be possible to do) 15:34:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-184.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:34:35 <Alberth> LadyHawk: I just proposed that, but it doesn't work, since the game doesn't know whether you want the passenger subsidy, or the industrial one just 2 tiles out of range 15:35:30 <Alberth> LadyHawk: so 'green' would mean 'you are in range of at least one subsidy, not necessarily the one you want :( 15:35:59 *** Antdovu [~Otinn@vpn2-121.vpn.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:36:00 <LadyHawk> but that would give the player some idea of where they can place a station for a subsidy.. worst case scenario if theres an industrial subsidy right next to the town, they can still see the green circle around it as they move the station around the green grid 15:36:30 <LadyHawk> yes it won't be perfect, but perfect for what i understand in this matter is impossible 15:37:10 <LadyHawk> it'll be the player that still has to look around to see if it catches the subsidy they want 15:37:27 <LadyHawk> but it's the same now, and now players don't even have an idea of where they can and cant place the station 15:38:38 <Alberth> LadyHawk: devs don't like implementing partial solutions, as the problem will continue to come back (like it does now). 15:40:01 <Alberth> Rubidium: what if we add some indication of subsidies that would be in reach, just like the list of accepted/produced cargo 15:41:05 <LadyHawk> hmm that could be nice as well 15:41:19 <LadyHawk> in that same list 'subsidy: <cargotype> 15:41:21 <LadyHawk> ' 15:45:32 <LadyHawk> that would give players more of an indication than a grid range would 15:45:52 <Alberth> yeah, I was wondering how to represent a subidy, but the cargo type would be enough indeed. 15:46:31 <Aali> not really 15:47:06 <Aali> because then it will look like you get a subsidy just for transporting that cargo type 15:48:17 <Aali> (its enough if you know all about subsidies, but for new players its confusing) 15:48:20 <Alberth> Right 'subsidy:' is the wrong word. 15:48:43 <LadyHawk> hmm 15:49:59 <LadyHawk> what exactly do you mean Aali, new players would see that list and think they can *only* transport the cargo type specified to get the subsidy, and not the others available? 15:50:18 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-199.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 15:50:24 <Aali> no, they'll think they can just take that cargo anywhere and get extra cash 15:51:02 <Alberth> or even, that they will get the subsidy just by building there 15:51:09 <LadyHawk> ah 15:52:02 <LadyHawk> don't suppose you can make it clickable to open the subsidy list window 15:52:09 <LadyHawk> if that would even change anything 15:52:23 <Alberth> Maybe we should add something to the subsidy window and not the build window ? 15:53:07 <Aali> you could always make it a toggleable "advanced" setting 15:53:17 <Alberth> LadyHawk: clickable can be made, but I don't think it will help, as users don't consider clicking on it (in the same way that right-click could have an explanation, that nobody would read) 15:53:30 <Aali> so people who already know about subsidies can turn it on 15:54:12 <Alberth> that would kind of defeat a large part of the purpose wouldn't it? 15:55:11 <Alberth> In fact we should be able to high-light existing stations as well imho 15:55:15 <Aali> only if its not obvious what the setting does 15:55:34 <Patrick> or we could just cut subsidies from the game by default 15:55:42 <Patrick> oh, here's a question 15:55:45 <Patrick> plane speed factor 15:55:51 <Patrick> does it actually affect how much money they make 15:56:02 <Patrick> or is the passenger delivery payment calculation offset 15:56:04 <Alberth> yes, faster transport makes more money 15:56:19 <Alberth> (less aging while in transit) 15:56:21 <Patrick> ah 15:56:26 <LadyHawk> what would you add to the subsidy window though, like '(in range)' when they hover the station around to place it? sounds hard to code to a coding newbie :p 15:56:34 <Patrick> no wonder I was making 4 million a year with 3 planes 15:56:38 <Antdovu> and you can obviously transport more with faster planes 15:56:45 <Patrick> LadyHawk: and it sounds counterintuitive 15:56:48 <Alberth> :) 15:57:04 <Patrick> tbh the only game I play now is left 4 dead 15:57:26 <LadyHawk> i keep coming back to ottd, then i get bored and leave it, and come back to it later 15:57:30 <LadyHawk> lol 15:58:06 <Alberth> LadyHawk: start coding instead of playing 15:58:22 <LadyHawk> i'd be more of a burden than a help :p 15:58:35 <Alberth> update docs, wiki 15:59:40 <LadyHawk> yeah but by doing that i'd need to keep at it even when i get bored of ottd again 15:59:45 <LadyHawk> cuz i'd feel i can't leave it alone 16:00:09 <Alberth> If we select a subsidy, could we then display the range or so? 16:00:46 <LadyHawk> select subsidy in the subsidy window, then show a range grid? 16:01:00 <Alberth> LadyHawk: you cannot, docs and wiki age by themselves :P 16:01:32 <Alberth> yeah, then you'd also be able to see whether existing stations are in range 16:02:15 <LadyHawk> and the player wouldn't get confused about the fact they can just take the offered subsidy *anywhere* cuz they'd have to go through the subsidy window which clearly states *where* to take the cargo 16:02:52 <Alberth> I'd hope so 16:03:43 <LadyHawk> one thing to keep in mind with that then though is when you click on a subsidy in the subsidy window now, it skips the screen between the pickup/delivery places 16:03:53 <LadyHawk> wouldn't that enable/disable the grid? 16:04:28 <LadyHawk> unless it's a button or something in that window behind the text, 'show range grid' 16:04:48 <Alberth> hmm, you got a point. (and it makes clear how often I use subsidies :) ) 16:05:52 <Alberth> I wouldn't mind having the grid enabled all the time (as long as the window is open). We'd probably need that toggle too though, nice idea. 16:05:53 <LadyHawk> + that grid would have to be ON TOP of the existing station range grid 16:06:07 <LadyHawk> or they'd still not be able to see it 16:06:49 <Alberth> I was thinking about colouring the station itself. 16:07:01 <LadyHawk> that would solve that problem 16:07:25 <Alberth> (ie a green station means 'this one can be used') 16:07:33 <LadyHawk> sounds good 16:07:55 <Antdovu> Firefox had a problem and crashed. We'll try to restore your tabs and windows when it restarts. 16:07:55 <Antdovu> SecondsSinceLastCrash: 336330 16:08:02 <LadyHawk> but would players get confused to stick the station range grid in the subsidy range grid and think 'cool i'm in range now' 16:08:12 <Antdovu> does this happen to anyone else? 16:08:24 <LadyHawk> unless you force disable station range grid when a subsidy toggle is enabled? 16:09:19 <Alberth> LadyHawk: not sure I understand the confusion 16:10:37 <Alberth> Antdovu: no way, I have never succeeded running a browser that long 16:11:02 <LadyHawk> well say you enable the subsidy range grid with a button in the subsidy 16:11:19 <LadyHawk> then the player turns on the station range grid on the station placement 16:11:30 <LadyHawk> and goes with the station range grid 1 tile INTO the subsidy range grid 16:11:38 <LadyHawk> just like you do when you place a station near an industry 16:11:57 <Alberth> hmm 16:12:02 <LadyHawk> they might think 'hurray, i'm in range' and place it, not knowing it's the green station colour they should be looking for 16:12:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: that's not even 4 days 16:12:26 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 16:12:48 <Eddi|zuHause> well, of course that is an eternity when using windows :p 16:12:55 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-184.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:13:11 <LadyHawk> unless you shorten the subsidy range grid to use the station grid... but of course the station range grid is smaller/bigger depending on which type of station you try to place 16:13:17 <Alberth> so no green grid, but just 'green' stations then? 16:13:30 <Antdovu> I'm pretty sure that time includes the browser being closed 16:14:11 <LadyHawk> that might be better Alberth yeah 16:14:11 <Patrick> or just change the model from center of town to anywhere 16:14:15 <Antdovu> But I get that kind of messages from firefox way too often 16:14:42 <LadyHawk> would remove the possible station range grid confusion 16:14:48 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: indeed, I missed a factor 60. At home, it makes no difference, the machine goes down every day, at work, it would then probably, as the machine goes down something like twice a year 16:15:03 <Alberth> Antdovu: don't vist new sites :) 16:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i don't use firefox... 16:15:41 <Alberth> Patrick: what do you mean "model"? 16:16:21 <Antdovu> I would use another browser if it had similar extensions to the ones I use 16:16:51 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 16:18:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Patrick: part of the problem is that it is O(n^2) to search for the town center, so increasing that might be problematic (in a similar way to increasing station spread) 16:19:21 <Alberth> Patrick: ah, you mean, let go of the 'town center' limitation. 16:19:25 <Antdovu> what is it that actually makes station spread a speed issue? 16:20:23 <Alberth> more tiles to search, although I don't know whether it is really a problem 16:21:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:51 <Eddi|zuHause> exactly what i said, an O(n^2) search through the catchment area. each time any cargo is produced or delivered, acceptance is recalculated or otherwise stuff changes 16:21:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-202-66.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:15 <Antdovu> for each station tile 16:24:15 <Antdovu> check whether it can catch any cargo? 16:24:21 <Patrick> Eddi|zuHause: really? 16:24:40 <Alberth> Antdovu: for each tile in the catchment area 16:24:46 <Patrick> for subsidisation, it's just calculated difference between signpost coordinates 16:25:03 <Patrick> wouldn't it be more sensible to have the acceptance as a property of the station 16:25:22 <Eddi|zuHause> no, the other way round: for each industry, for each distance(tile, industry)<station spread: has a station? 16:25:25 <Patrick> and update stations whenever a building or industry changes 16:25:39 <Patrick> it would probably be a lot of work 16:26:09 <Patrick> so yeah 16:26:15 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