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00:01:12 <Belugas> naaaa... it's a wha-whaed foot 00:01:54 <Belugas> i feel muscles in my leg i did not expected i had ;) 00:02:01 <TrueBrain> and that at your age! :p 00:03:44 <Belugas> blablabla 00:03:49 <TrueBrain> hehe. 00:03:53 <Belugas> young punk ;) 00:04:44 <Belugas> honestly, it's fun fun fun 00:04:57 <Belugas> i've got a compostion already on the making :) 00:07:29 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 00:20:15 <Belugas> and there are a few pathces on the forums that are tempting me right now 00:28:33 <TrueBrain> in what wasy? :) 00:32:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7562A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B762BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:02 <Belugas> like... they do not provide too much thinking, 00:34:12 <TrueBrain> hehe 00:34:14 <TrueBrain> always nice :) 00:34:16 <Belugas> they seem like giving good possibilities 00:34:29 <Belugas> yup yup yup 00:34:33 <Belugas> lazy brain :) 00:34:43 <TrueBrain> your new nickname? 00:34:47 <TrueBrain> LazyBrain? :p 00:34:51 <Belugas> lol 00:34:55 <Belugas> yeah :) 00:35:08 <Belugas> right now, shopping for a new inkjet printer 00:35:13 <TrueBrain> hmm 00:35:20 <TrueBrain> I need to find inkjet printers to 00:35:21 <TrueBrain> really cheap 00:35:23 <Belugas> our still works, we just one to have an ethernet conneciton 00:35:37 <Belugas> deskjet 712C 00:35:39 <Belugas> oooooold 00:35:46 <Belugas> HP 00:35:49 <Belugas> only 00:36:19 <TrueBrain> I can't order black/white only printers here 00:36:20 <TrueBrain> haah 00:37:04 <Belugas> you need just b/w? 00:37:39 <TrueBrain> yeah 00:37:48 <TrueBrain> we need to print A LOT for 3 days only 00:37:51 <TrueBrain> and to two printers 00:37:56 <TrueBrain> so I want 3 or 4 very cheap printers :p 00:38:21 <glx> laser are cheap :) 00:38:31 <TrueBrain> inkt: 40 euro 00:38:33 <TrueBrain> laser: 80 euro 00:38:39 <TrueBrain> but maybe 2 laser is better ... 00:38:41 <glx> cost less than refill 00:39:33 <TrueBrain> (faster, and faster dry :)) 00:40:01 <glx> and for B/W stuff it's the best 00:40:54 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is grinning and holding a spatula. Guess not.] 00:41:05 <TrueBrain> yeah, maybe a good thing to consider :) 00:41:32 <Belugas> yup 00:41:36 <Belugas> agreed 00:41:46 <Belugas> hello both of you, by the way 00:42:30 <glx> how's the snow? 00:42:51 <TrueBrain> Hewlett-Packard P1006 <- looks nice :) 00:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> beautiful as long as there is a window inbetween me and the snow ;) 00:47:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EFDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:15 <Belugas> glx, too much. but... having a contractor who removes as soon as it falls, it makes you appreciate the beauty of it more easily ;) 00:48:26 <TrueBrain> hmm 00:48:26 <TrueBrain> snow 00:48:27 <glx> hehe 00:48:29 <TrueBrain> snow snow snow snow snow 00:48:33 * TrueBrain loves SNOW! 00:48:57 <Belugas> TrueBrain, go and stare at the picts i've sent you! 00:49:21 <TrueBrain> I only have an image of your VOX peddle 00:49:51 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 00:50:46 <TrueBrain> oeh! PRETTY!!!!!!!!!1111oneone 00:52:24 <TrueBrain> night all :) 00:53:09 <Belugas> bye 00:53:12 <Belugas> tv time for me 00:53:50 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 00:54:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:03 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28E598.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:02 <Eddi|zuHause> tv is nice and all, until you realise that you have 300 channels of total crap... 00:59:06 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has joined #openttd 00:59:48 <benjamingoodger> 300? 00:59:51 <benjamingoodger> ha! 01:00:37 <glx> most of them are not in my language 01:03:06 <benjamingoodger> the thing is, there are four terrestrial channels here 01:03:26 <benjamingoodger> three of those four represent about 60% of all the good television available 01:05:06 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:40 <nicfer> Hmmm, would be possible to create a city simulator game from ottd's engine? 01:09:29 <nicfer> I mean, some functions can be reused, the one way roads, the stations (I hate the SC-like ones) 01:11:47 *** ecke [~ecke@mail2.zelena.cz] has joined #openttd 01:17:57 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19:59 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Zzzz...] 01:34:11 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738cccc.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:05 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has left #openttd [] 01:50:33 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:53:23 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 01:59:15 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 02:00:50 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 02:11:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:24:27 *** ecke [~ecke@mail2.zelena.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 02:26:18 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 02:27:40 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:27:43 <Tefad> that wasn't nice : ( 02:29:19 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h156.225.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 02:32:03 *** vraa [~vraa@h98.225.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:40:01 *** ecke [~ecke@mail2.zelena.cz] has joined #openttd 02:42:20 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228019003.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 02:42:25 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 02:44:06 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C080.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:48:10 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C437.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:57:26 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has joined #openttd 03:05:55 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485C080.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:26 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229071143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:43 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has joined #openttd 03:10:57 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:11:51 <nicfer> One question, transport empire will be something like ottd in full 3d? Or more like locomotion done right? 03:13:45 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs|drowning 03:14:08 *** ecke [~ecke@mail2.zelena.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:32 <benjamingoodger> nicfer: I believe the idea is a 3d OTTD, but "locomotion done right" would thereby also be accurate --- locomotion is surely "OTTD with a slightly less antiquated graphics engine" 03:17:06 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g230007204.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:18:34 <nicfer> Oh. Would be useful the blender models made for ottd? Or does TE need something different? 03:20:26 <benjamingoodger> er, I'm not sure.. 03:21:17 <benjamingoodger> I wouldn't want to commit myself, but I'd guess the models made for 32bpp OTTD are lacking detail on at least two elevations and likely not detailed enough 03:22:56 <benjamingoodger> but they'd be a good starting point in the event that it ever gets to the point where it needs content... 03:27:29 <svip> benjamingoodger: How's business? 03:27:33 <svip> Isn't it a bit late in the UK? 03:27:51 <benjamingoodger> yes, it's three-thirty AM 03:28:07 <svip> Yeah... what I'm saying. 03:28:08 <benjamingoodger> business is good, thank you... we've sold 61 copies of our first book 03:29:16 <svip> Oh. 03:29:24 <svip> How large a number did you print of it? 03:29:58 <benjamingoodger> none yet, it's not yet released 03:30:09 <svip> Oh, how many are you planning? 03:30:09 <benjamingoodger> it opened for pre-orders last friday 03:30:38 <benjamingoodger> we're planning to sell a fair few thousand 03:30:52 <svip> Well, I certainly hope so for you. 03:31:07 <benjamingoodger> each order generates an instruction to print a copy that goes to our outsourced on-demand printing 03:31:13 <svip> Funny, as newspapers are going down in sales, books aren't as badly hit by the Internet, are they? 03:31:31 <benjamingoodger> no 03:31:42 <svip> I knew it. 03:32:00 <svip> People like a book in their hands, rather than "virtually" go through a book. 03:32:01 <benjamingoodger> are you unaware of why, or will I look silly if I explain it to you? 03:32:09 <benjamingoodger> precisely. 03:32:22 <svip> It's the same reason I get books and not PDF copies. 03:32:36 <benjamingoodger> it's not so much the weight or the page-turning, I think, as the fact that books are reflective 03:33:05 <svip> I suppose. 03:33:12 <benjamingoodger> the contrast between black and white on a monitor is immense in comparison to black and greyish-yellow on paper, and it's a tremendous eye strain 03:33:33 <nicfer> Ok, all right. Other thing, would work ottd's terrain physics in a city simulator? 03:33:53 <thingwath> City simulator? 03:33:55 <benjamingoodger> plus, of course, I suppose it's rather difficult to just pick up a computer and start reading, and more difficult still to read in bed (with 19" TFT on your lap..?) 03:34:10 <svip> They have made handheld ebooks. 03:34:14 <benjamingoodger> nicfer: possible. no reason as to why 03:34:15 <svip> But they sure aren't selling either. 03:34:20 <benjamingoodger> no... 03:34:30 <benjamingoodger> this is because they all have nonreflective displays 03:34:39 <thingwath> benjamingoodger: for me, the biggest problem is distraction 03:34:52 <benjamingoodger> Sony E-Ink is brilliant, but the only useful implementations of it are so crammed with DRM it's not true 03:34:59 <benjamingoodger> and you can't just stick PDFs on a kindle. 03:34:59 <thingwath> you can't irc with paper book :-) 03:35:04 <benjamingoodger> no, true 03:35:38 <benjamingoodger> you can't fall asleep cradling a computer in your hand, either 03:35:51 <svip> thingwath: Different media for different purpose. 03:37:14 <benjamingoodger> there's a certain calm dignity in sitting down to read a newspaper 03:37:24 <thingwath> plus, I have tried FBReader and some pdb books, and it was disguisting 03:37:26 <benjamingoodger> but it doesn't match people's lifestyles any more 03:40:07 <benjamingoodger> plus, of course, books last longer 03:40:21 <thingwath> questionable 03:40:35 <benjamingoodger> if you spend a tenner on a book, if you look after it properly, you will be able to give it to your grandchildren 03:40:59 <svip> And technology runs dry in a matter of minutes. 03:41:08 <svip> Because then there is something new to replace it with! 03:41:10 <benjamingoodger> if you spend £200 ish on an ebook reader, it will surely die before you buy your next car 03:41:27 <nicfer> I want ottd playable on paper and pencil :D 03:41:40 <thingwath> well, I don't have plans to buy any car :-) 03:41:47 <benjamingoodger> just an expression... 03:41:53 <benjamingoodger> or an analogy, perhaps 03:42:02 <benjamingoodger> nicfer: don't worry, I'm sure someone has ported it to that... 03:42:20 <svip> Well, I am going to bed. 03:42:35 <svip> I may fill you up on my thing, benjamingoodger. 03:42:37 <thingwath> well, with infinite paper and pencil, you have power of Turing machine 03:42:55 <thingwath> which is certainly enough for openttd 03:43:12 <benjamingoodger> svip: eh? 03:43:46 <nicfer> It's already possible, just draw lines of different colours appropiately and voila! 03:44:26 <benjamingoodger> hmm 03:44:53 <benjamingoodger> perhaps a colossal array of whiteboards on which different programs are written 03:44:54 <thingwath> Well, I have actually spend some time with map, planning a railway :o) 03:44:57 <benjamingoodger> and a huge paper grid on which post-it notes may be moved about 03:45:21 <benjamingoodger> or, indeed, you could build a real-life railway 03:45:36 <nicfer> Or why not a board game? 03:45:46 <thingwath> at least garden railway 03:45:48 <thingwath> would be nice 03:47:56 <benjamingoodger> a board game was what I described 03:48:09 <benjamingoodger> but OTTD is so enormously complex you'd need miles of whiteboards to play 03:51:55 *** nicfer [~nicfer@ulmo.lysator.liu.se] has left #openttd [] 04:02:00 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180067084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 04:07:00 *** elmex [~elmex@e180068039.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:07:03 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 04:23:26 <benjamingoodger> good night, everyone 06:08:18 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 06:40:26 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm6.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:52:58 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:02:58 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:18:18 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-143-121.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:18:52 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-143-121.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 08:16:31 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 08:46:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:59:25 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-5440c442.wfd78a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:04:26 <petern> benjamingoodger, only 4 terrestrial channels? are you stuck in the 90s? 09:05:58 <dihedral> dvbt is not accessible everywhere petern 09:06:14 <petern> it's still terrestrial 09:06:41 <dihedral> yes - but perhaps where he lives there is no dvbt coverage 09:07:05 <dihedral> so what he sees could very well be only 4 channels 09:07:59 <petern> well 09:08:05 <petern> he's lucky then :D 09:11:10 <dihedral> :-P 09:11:28 <dihedral> i must say - i like the freeform map edges (by the look of the screenshot) 09:11:52 <dihedral> what is your oppinion on that thing petern? 09:11:58 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40916 09:18:03 <dihedral> petern got very silent very quickly :-P 09:18:18 <petern> got lost in wikipedia :p 09:18:21 <dihedral> lol 09:18:28 <dihedral> found your way out did you then? :-P 09:18:44 <petern> saved by your highlight 09:19:13 <dihedral> you are welcome :-) 09:19:39 <welshdragon> i'm getting lost using this text to speech software, it doesn't read xchat (so i'm considering ubuntu) 09:19:56 <petern> i am indifferent. if it keeps the void tiles i don't see a problem 09:19:58 <dihedral> welshdragon: that makes no sense 09:20:07 <petern> well apart from tile 0 often means invalid :D 09:20:24 <dihedral> :-) 09:20:36 <welshdragon> dihedral, it does 09:20:45 <dihedral> no 09:20:53 <dihedral> xchat is an app, ubuntu is a distribution 09:21:26 <dihedral> it's like ttdp does not work with my mouse so i will switch to rocket sience now 09:21:33 <welshdragon> yes, and linux is better (supposedly) for people who have a visual impairment 09:21:46 <dihedral> my collegue thinks otherwise 09:21:53 <petern> 48pt fonts! :D 09:22:12 <petern> 640x480 on a 42" telly! 09:22:15 <dihedral> he runs windows because of the features it has for visually impaired - and runs vmware to get to his linux :-P 09:22:21 <petern> Belugas' boss does something like that, hehe 09:22:25 <welshdragon> dihedral, your colleage has a visual impairment?+ 09:22:28 <dihedral> petern: my collegue has 2 24" with that res 09:22:33 <dihedral> or with 800x600 09:23:02 <petern> heh 09:23:02 <dihedral> yes - he needs huge ass writing, + has the colours inversed 09:23:18 <dihedral> things may not bee too bright for him 09:23:31 <dihedral> he sits behind a huge wall to darken the little corner he works in 09:23:44 <dihedral> etc etc 09:23:50 <petern> :o 09:24:06 <dihedral> it looks funny when walking by his screens :-) 09:24:09 <petern> sunglasses? 09:24:14 <dihedral> yes - that too 09:24:19 <dihedral> special ones 09:24:21 <dihedral> of course 09:24:27 <dihedral> i need 09:24:30 <dihedral> to learn to 09:24:32 <dihedral> write longer lines 09:24:51 <petern> remind me in 3 minutes please 09:25:09 <dihedral> back to wikipedia, eh? 09:27:07 <welshdragon> guess so 09:27:43 <welshdragon> ooh, black and white :P 09:27:57 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c846.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:28:38 <dihedral> petern 09:29:00 <dihedral> he's trapped again! 09:29:08 <welshdragon> petern! 09:29:18 * dihedral calles 999 09:29:38 * welshdragon shuts down wikipedia 09:29:56 <dihedral> mount www /mnt/www 09:30:03 <dihedral> rm -rf /mnt/www/* 09:30:10 * dihedral waits 09:30:41 <petern> hee 09:30:44 <dihedral> find www.wikipedia.org -type human -nick petern 09:30:48 <petern> nah, tea is ready 09:30:51 <dihedral> :-P 09:31:19 <petern> mmm, tea 09:32:02 <dihedral> with a drop of milk? 09:32:21 <dihedral> what's the progress on NAIL actually? 09:32:23 <petern> of course 09:32:37 <petern> being british i'd have tea no other way 09:35:36 <welshdragon> aww 09:35:37 <welshdragon> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1620563&l=caeb4&id=513001408 09:35:37 <welshdragon> Advertise 09:35:37 <welshdragon> Free Sony Ericsson C902 09:35:37 <welshdragon> Get a free Sony Ericsson C902 with a 5 megapixel camera from Orange, with 600 minutes and unlimited texts, just £30 online. 09:35:37 <welshdragon> 09:35:39 <welshdragon> More Ads 09:35:47 <welshdragon> (oops) 09:36:00 <welshdragon> that screendump failed 09:36:55 <Eddi|zuHause> petern: wild pig, cooked in a peppermint sauce? 09:37:23 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause: that would be lamb please 09:37:47 <dihedral> and not cooked in the peppermint sauce, but with peppermint sauce 09:37:47 <Eddi|zuHause> not in an asterix context p 09:37:52 <Eddi|zuHause> +: 09:38:13 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, missing a comma 09:38:20 <dihedral> or mint jelly - but i prefer the sauce 09:38:32 <dihedral> uh uh... + yorkshire puddings :-P 09:38:41 <dihedral> or roast veggies 09:38:50 <dihedral> parsnips and sweet potatoes :) 09:39:09 * dihedral is hungry 09:39:38 * Eddi|zuHause is disgusted 09:39:42 * dihedral will go and make some marmite toast... 09:42:28 <dihedral> @seen celestar 09:42:29 <DorpsGek> dihedral: celestar was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 6 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <Celestar> this too 09:46:09 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D0F9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:51 <welshdragon> dihedral, http://www.flickr.com/photos/hsbp_westieboy/3107139672/ 09:50:16 <dihedral> hehe :-) 09:50:33 <dihedral> i like your mouse thingy 09:50:45 <dihedral> what size screen @ what res is that? 09:50:51 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 09:50:59 <dihedral> good morning XeryusTC 09:51:10 * dihedral gets some more marmite toast 09:51:16 <XeryusTC> yarr 09:51:50 <dihedral> :-P 09:52:01 <welshdragon> it's 1280 x 800. magnified... 3.5 times :P 09:52:33 <dihedral> hehe - my collegue has the 800x600 setup also magnified :-D 09:52:44 <welshdragon> lol 09:52:52 <welshdragon> anyway 09:52:56 <dihedral> but only on the one screen 09:53:03 <welshdragon> time for me to go into town 09:53:08 <dihedral> enjoy 09:53:10 <dihedral> have a nice day 09:53:29 <welshdragon> i want to see some people about a mobile phone that uses skype :) 09:56:47 <dihedral> oeh 09:56:49 <dihedral> yuck 09:57:12 <dihedral> skype can reroute traffic through any skype instance running (with a connection to the skype servers) 09:57:30 <dihedral> which is what is tried when one p2p connection failes 09:58:36 <dihedral> if my connection seems too slow to stream something (e.g. the daily show) the first thing i do is turn off skype 10:05:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F16E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:35 <dihedral> anybody up for a game... a shoot 'em up game? 10:10:48 <dihedral> TrueBrain ? hide 'n seek? 10:12:13 <dihedral> css, et, q3, wop, .... 10:12:22 <dihedral> etpro :-P 10:20:13 <petern> bastards 10:20:17 <petern> i've got chicken for dinner today 10:20:23 <petern> but now i fancy pork 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I am pretty!* 13:25:07 *** Muxy [~Benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [] 13:26:52 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d8711d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 13:28:20 <TrueBrain> morning Celestar :) 13:29:20 <Celestar> hey there 13:29:22 <Celestar> how is it? 13:30:14 <TrueBrain> Beautiful weather outside :) 13:30:42 <Celestar> yes 13:30:46 <Celestar> my last day as a Twen :> 13:31:15 <TrueBrain> Twen? 13:31:32 <Celestar> 20-29 years of age 13:31:39 <TrueBrain> I thought you already passed that range :p :p :p :p 13:32:05 <TrueBrain> (is that too mean?) 13:32:15 <Celestar> :P 13:32:44 <Celestar> Like always, I'll act like 12, k :P 13:32:53 <TrueBrain> :) 13:36:22 <TrueBrain> so, you think you finish cargodest before you hit 30? :p 13:36:35 <Gekz> guys, Linux is making me sad. 13:36:42 <Gekz> like, depressively sad. 13:36:45 <Celestar> Gekz: ? 13:36:57 <Gekz> it doesnt want to be my friend today 13:37:05 <Gekz> and now I'm looking for a new friend 13:37:28 <TrueBrain> Try yorick, he most likely wants to be your friend :) 13:37:34 <Gekz> haa 13:37:36 <Gekz> he's not an OS 13:37:45 <TrueBrain> he can act like one 13:37:52 <Gekz> I said OS, not ass. 13:37:58 <TrueBrain> good point :) 13:38:07 <Gekz> but yes, I installed Fedora 13:38:10 <Gekz> and now I want to murder someone 13:38:13 <Celestar> mistake #1 : 13:38:14 <Celestar> :P 13:38:15 <Gekz> because of how it handes networking 13:38:19 <TrueBrain> start Half-Life 13:38:21 <Gekz> that's all I hate about it 13:38:25 <Celestar> use OpenSUSE :D 13:38:35 <Gekz> I've fallen for that one before -.- 13:38:36 <Gekz> you jerk 13:39:25 * Celestar pokes Gekz 13:39:35 <Gekz> which works better: Debian or Ubuntu? 13:39:44 <Gekz> ie, less dependencies 13:39:48 <Gekz> less brain-breakage 13:39:51 <Gekz> greater simplicity 13:40:16 <TrueBrain> ubuntu 13:40:24 <yorick> eee, I don't want to be his friend 13:40:29 <TrueBrain> kubuntu to be more exact 13:41:41 <Gekz> KDE makes me sad. 13:41:45 <Gekz> Gnome makes me sad. 13:41:49 <Gekz> YET 13:41:53 <TrueBrain> I think the world makes you sad 13:41:53 <Gekz> I want a desktop environment 13:41:57 <TrueBrain> so I suggest you get some antidepressive 13:41:57 <Gekz> I'm quite self-loathing 13:42:23 <TrueBrain> Celestar: but how far is cargodest? :) 13:42:34 <Gekz> if XFCE had the kind of env that Gnome has set up, I'd be very very happy 13:42:52 <Celestar> TrueBrain: v1 is working. 13:42:56 <Gekz> with correct file associations and the like 13:43:13 <TrueBrain> Celestar: bugfree? :) 13:43:31 <Celestar> TrueBrain: v2 is in the making, but I it's more an algorithm problem than a coding problem 13:43:49 <Celestar> TrueBrain: I don't think it's bugfree, but I currently have no _known_ bug 13:43:59 <Celestar> unless my (now empty) list is incomplete 13:44:00 <TrueBrain> so will v1 be merged before v2, or you finish v2 first? 13:44:20 <Celestar> first v1 merge, then v2 development is what I (and Rubidium) recommended 13:44:24 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: define bugfree; if it means no bugs reported, then yes. If is means people have actually extensively tested it and no bug has been found, then likely no 13:44:46 <Celestar> Rubidium: it has been extensively tested 13:44:59 <Rubidium> Celestar: not the last month worth of changes 13:45:08 <TrueBrain> I agree with Celestar on thatone ... CargoDest is more used than NoAI 13:45:09 <Celestar> Rubidium: that is true. I'm working on that one. 13:45:11 <TrueBrain> (more downloaded :p 13:45:31 <Celestar> TrueBrain: could you re-build the binaries with the current codebase so that we can run another tesT? 13:45:36 <TrueBrain> sure 13:46:14 <TrueBrain> darn, I don't have my private key here .. 13:46:54 <Rubidium> Celestar: you still haven't fixed the CT_GOLD issue 13:47:24 <Rubidium> CT_GOLD is *ONLY* for certain gold if and only if no newindustries NewGRFs are in use 13:47:48 <Celestar> Rubidium: er .. yeah. damn. 13:47:48 <Rubidium> with ECS it might very well be paper 13:47:54 <Celestar> TrueBrain: hold that build 13:48:12 <Celestar> Rubidium: so you recommend using those cargo classes? 13:48:37 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 13:51:28 <frosch123> I guess cargo classes are the only chance you have :) 13:52:18 <Rubidium> for "gold" that seems the only possibility 13:52:46 <Celestar> ok I'll go for it 13:53:00 <Celestar> but I shall assume that if something is CC_PASSENGERS, it is in no other class :P 13:53:27 <Rubidium> hmm... in toyland 'TC_GOLD' is plastic 13:53:28 <frosch123> But for e.g. passengers you can decide whether you want to only apply to passengers ()T_PASSENGER) or e.g also tourists (cargo class "passengers") 13:56:27 <Rubidium> why did you add a special "gold" setting anyways? 13:56:30 <petern> benjamingoodger, well soon there'll be zero analogue terrestrial... you'll have to find something else to do, like... not translate :D 13:57:26 <Celestar> Rubidium: petern and I felt it was the right thing to do :P 13:57:38 <petern> did i? 13:57:44 <frosch123> [14:55] <Celestar> but I shall assume that if something is CC_PASSENGERS, it is in no other class :P <- IIRC tourists are CC_PASSENGER and CC_EXPRESS 13:57:49 <Celestar> yeah, we talked about it in the very beinning. 13:58:00 <petern> oh, valuables 13:58:02 <frosch123> but I don't know about CC_PASSENGER and CC_AMOURED :) 13:58:15 <petern> things that go from bank to bank 13:58:21 <frosch123> err, ARMOURED 13:58:26 <petern> not necessarily things in that slot, heh 13:58:35 <Celestar> petern: yes. 13:58:51 <petern> doesn't gold go from mines to bank? 13:58:52 <petern> hmm 13:58:52 <Rubidium> Celestar: but don't you silently means cargos that go from one industry type to the same industry type? 13:59:07 <benjamingoodger> petern: you're taking my attitude toward translation a tad too seriously, methinks... besides, all my TV watching is done on my PC anyway ^_^ 13:59:25 <Celestar> godes goes from mines to bank, right. 13:59:28 <Celestar> gold* 13:59:50 <Celestar> Rubidium: I mean everything that goes to a bank (or bank-like thing). 14:00:17 <Rubidium> you can't test for that 14:00:48 <Celestar> yeah 14:00:54 <frosch123> he can use CC_ARMOURED as long as noone adds military stuff :p 14:01:08 <Celestar> we decided to keep military stuff out :P 14:02:06 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/cargoclass.diff 14:03:29 <frosch123> how about some helper function to translate a CargoID into some CargoDestClass ? 14:04:08 <Rubidium> what about putting the class in the cargospec struct? 14:04:15 <frosch123> i.e. is it possible to deduplicate those ModifyXXXRoutingSystem 14:11:51 <Celestar> yes 14:11:57 <Celestar> will cook summin up 14:14:12 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:16:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has joined #openttd 14:17:48 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577B9638.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:18:15 <George> frosch123: CC_PASSENGER and CC_AMOURED was discussed for prisoners, transported between prisons and mines. (Un)Fortunately cargo slots limit ended up this idea 14:19:02 <frosch123> hehe, so would prisoners fit into passenger destinations or into valuables destinations :p 14:19:36 <George> For Gold and Valuables: In INFRA we plan to transform banks to houses. 14:20:27 <George> frosch123: because they are delivered to mines, they should have the same destination as vehicles (machinery) 14:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone ever tried to implement electricity needed for town growth above a certain size (like food and water)? 14:21:19 <frosch123> huh, from prison to mine .... just read that part :S 14:21:50 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: I read it recently either in the suggestion forum or in the towngrowth challenge 14:22:05 <Eddi|zuHause> emphasis on _implement_ ;) 14:25:09 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 14:25:13 <George> Eddi|zuHause: I've suggested to have global registers like we have for industries, so power plants could add their electricity production into one of them, and other industries could use this electricity instead of coal (subtract from the register) 14:27:02 <George> The same idea can be expanded to houses too, but IMHO, the game would be turned into coal transportation game. We'd need hydropower plants, nuclear power plants then ... 14:27:18 <frosch123> George: Replace "global registers" with "town effect" resp. "town variable" 14:27:56 <George> I do not think using coal as cargo with town effect is a good idea 14:28:20 <frosch123> in 1850-1960, why not? 14:29:13 <frosch123> s/1960/1990/ 14:30:03 <George> It was also discussed. We were drawing some small town boiler houses that accept coal and give it town effect. But how to remove this effect later in game? Cargo property can't be changed in game, there is no callback to change it 14:30:39 <Eddi|zuHause> hydro- and nuclear plants, fine, but how to prevent abusing them? since they don't really need anything delivered or have anything provided 14:30:44 <George> Eddi|zuHause: Suggestions? 14:31:17 <frosch123> you can deliver water to hydro plants :p 14:31:32 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 14:31:52 <Eddi|zuHause> er... rather the other way round :p 14:32:05 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d8711d5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:28 <frosch123> in 2070+ you can also deliver water to fusion plants :p 14:32:30 <Eddi|zuHause> also, keep in mind that this should not turn into sim city 14:33:14 <frosch123> no? ok. well, how about civiilisation? 14:36:51 <TrueBrain> lol @ frosch123 :) 14:38:16 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the main problem i have is that power stations are "senseless" sinks 14:41:39 <Eddi|zuHause> but you can't just add some output of power stations as cargo, since electricity is not a transportable cargo 14:41:58 <Eddi|zuHause> and it can't be the responsibility of the player to build power lines 14:42:29 <frosch123> no, you would have to add a town effect to serviced industries 14:45:50 <Eddi|zuHause> also, houses built up to ~1965 could accept coal, and they will slowly be phased out by ones that depend on external electricity 14:46:08 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 14:46:22 <yorick> isn't that a bit late? 14:46:49 <Eddi|zuHause> no? my grandmother's house still had coal heating in 1990 14:47:24 <Eddi|zuHause> they renewed it when she moved out 14:47:25 <TrueBrain> using google to find how you can make an XUL application printable is kind of ... hard .... :p ('print' hits on many many many more things :)) 14:48:01 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:48:04 <Eddi|zuHause> what's the average lifespan of a house in TTD? 14:50:06 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:50:17 <Eddi|zuHause> small villages do not need coal deliveries, people will just gather woods from the surrounding area theirselves, but bigger cities need a decent energy supply to continue growing 14:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause> where "energy" can also come from oil 14:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause> or more futuristic stuff 14:52:46 <George> Eddi|zuHause: unfortunately, city industries, that accept cargo, still have the effect. So, cities with power plants would grow, while cities without would do it not. So, having some global storage for energy sounds much better idea 14:53:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't want energy to be global 14:53:57 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you will basically need (at least) one power station per city 14:56:17 <George> Ha-ha. Nuclear power plant in Sosnoviy Bor provides energy to the whole north-west region of Russia, Finland, Sweden, ... One per town sounds ... at least funny :) :) 14:58:07 <frosch123> reminds me about those oil tankers which are refitted to nuclear power plants :s 15:02:57 <Eddi|zuHause> George: i thought about a system where power stations could have a range of 10 tiles, and you could place transformer stations, consuming 20% of the energy, but extending the range of the power station... so you could, by placing enough transformer stations on the map, deliver the whole map with energy, but it would be increasingly ineffective 15:04:38 <Eddi|zuHause> so in 20 tile distance you get 80% power, in 30 tiles you get 64%, in 40 tiles you get 51%, and so on 15:05:22 <George> it is a question for new objects. placing high-voltage transmission tower is not a bad idea, but that would require code to support it :s 15:05:53 <George> Also, what to do with wires? 15:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't necessarily need actual wires 15:06:36 <Eddi|zuHause> or you do a lot of action 2 magic to find the surrounding power/transmission stations 15:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> which would be horribly slow 15:07:48 <George> Yes, global register would make things much easier :) 15:09:27 <frosch123> so you expect a town at one side of a 2kx2k map to get power from a plant on the other side? 15:09:50 <Rubidium> and what does global register #1 mean? 15:10:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i could imagine a (cached) callback which iterates all surrounding industries in X distance 15:10:34 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:11:04 <Eddi|zuHause> could also help with "walking" cargo for industries that are very close 15:11:51 <Rubidium> a global register can mean anything and without a way to determine what it means it's going to clash 15:12:26 <Rubidium> like already happens with the "unused" sprites that get replaced by several NewGRFs with different "data" 15:13:13 <frosch123> and with base costs :) 15:18:39 *** archjb [arcane@gurumeditation.68k.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:03 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21:51 <George> frosch123: I didn't say it is ready for implementation. I just wrote some of my ideas :) 15:23:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:46 *** Zorn [zorn@d122162.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 15:31:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c318c.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:10 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 15:34:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't like "global" registers, at most, per-grf-global registers, and the possibility to share registers between explicitly specified grfs 15:35:09 *** Zorni [zorn@e177112150.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:16 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 16:06:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has joined #openttd 16:08:36 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:16:43 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8180B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:51 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm6.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:19:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82D7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:19:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:29:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c318c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:29:54 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:13 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 16:30:27 <Slowpoke> hey everybody 16:31:06 <Slowpoke> how can I change the resolution of openttd for my screen? the wiki is not very helpful 16:31:41 <Eddi|zuHause> in the game settings 16:33:19 <Slowpoke> no, sorry, I ment to change it by hand since my screen has a resolution od 1024x576 16:33:39 <FauxFaux> Just resize the window, or edit the config file. 16:35:14 <Slowpoke> ahh 16:35:34 <Slowpoke> thank you 16:38:10 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:52 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5D0F9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:43:31 <yorick> mmm, they closed the patch bug report incorrectly 16:46:08 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D0F9.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14675 /trunk/src/settings.cpp: -Fix: setting the Estonian or custom currency as used currency didn't survive a restart cycle. 17:04:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-254-79.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-254-79.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:05:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:05:36 <Wolf01> hello 17:06:01 <welshdragon> goodbye :) 17:07:33 <frosch123> high 17:16:57 <Eddi|zuHause> medicore 17:21:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:30:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:38 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1229 17:46:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:53:23 *** Guest1229 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B762BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:33 *** Brianett1 [~brian@client-82-3-254-79.glfd.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:18 *** Brianett1 is now known as Brianetta-on-laptop 18:06:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:20 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g230007204.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:54 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:41:59 *** mucht_work [~martin@p4FE236D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:42:22 *** FloSoft` [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:43:21 *** FloSoft` [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 18:43:26 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 18:44:26 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:46:46 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:05 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:46 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:57:28 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 18:57:41 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:05:58 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@85.19.218.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:00 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:11:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-95-120.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:21:57 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23:12 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:23:35 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g227027029.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:23:44 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5D0F9.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:06 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D0F9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:31:00 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228019003.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:00 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 19:31:53 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 19:32:31 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has joined #openttd 19:50:11 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:53:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r14676 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Do not copy the signal type of parallel vertical/horizontal track, when dragging signals. 20:02:28 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 20:04:58 <frosch123> Why does a moderator open a topic title "some suggestions" :s 20:06:42 <Rubidium> report the topic ;) 20:15:09 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DB101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:15:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 20:15:15 <frosch123> o/ 20:15:33 <frosch123> no, it is the other way around, isn't it? 20:19:32 <Eddi|zuHause> o\ does not look so well 20:20:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.193.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:22:49 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:22:53 <frosch123> who was the âŸ\(O_o)/⟠guy? 20:23:53 <SmatZ> haha 20:25:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember ever seeing that smilie :P 20:26:36 <Prof_Frink> Neither does /lastlog. 20:32:34 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> weird... my Kaffeine/xine just forgot how to play avi videos... 20:33:23 <frosch123> [Sun Aug 3 2008] [22:04:05] <Forked> ï\(ú_o)/ï 20:33:27 <frosch123> [Sun Aug 3 2008] [22:04:05] <Forked> ¯\(º_o)/¯ 20:33:32 <SmatZ> nice :) 20:33:43 <frosch123> allmost 20:34:20 <frosch123> -l 20:37:41 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229140138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:41:45 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:42:43 *** Mortal is now known as Guest1243 20:42:43 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 20:47:37 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:48:34 *** Guest1243 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:51:03 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is grinning and holding a spatula. Guess not.] 20:51:38 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58:29 <TrueBrain> lalala 21:00:51 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:02:36 <TrueBrain> the latest IT Crowd was funny, for a change :) 21:04:17 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 21:11:30 * Celestar doesn't like working at 10pm on a sunday. 21:11:38 <TrueBrain> can't blame you 21:12:10 <SmatZ> :( 21:15:55 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:24:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D0F9.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:28:18 <Forked> ¯\(º_o)/¯ 21:28:21 <Forked> that is I, why? =p 21:30:10 <TrueBrain> I thin ksomsone had too much too drink 21:30:13 <petern> i love it! 21:30:19 <petern> well, not really 21:33:37 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:34:01 <Wolf01> 'night 21:34:04 <dihedral> night 21:34:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:34:23 <TrueBrain> nice timing dihedral :p 21:34:35 <dihedral> :-) 21:36:56 <dihedral> and i shall say good night too now 21:37:02 <dihedral> good night :-) 21:37:18 <TrueBrain> night dihedral :) 21:37:25 <frosch123> good hint 21:37:29 <frosch123> good night 21:37:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c318c.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:40 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:40:25 <Celestar> petern: compare against or compare to? 21:41:18 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 21:48:40 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c846.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 21:51:55 <Sacro> Celestar: with? 21:52:10 <Celestar> dunno :P 21:52:15 <Sacro> context :P 21:52:29 <TrueBrain> compare with 21:52:31 <TrueBrain> sounds reasonable :p 21:52:55 <Celestar> This data is compared with data from Smith? 21:53:09 <Sacro> are compared 21:53:34 <TrueBrain> or against ;) 21:53:51 <Sacro> data is plural so technically are 21:54:57 <TrueBrain> Sacro: in that case also: these data ;) 21:55:48 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 21:58:24 <Celestar> but then "This data" is wrong, isn't it? 21:58:35 <TrueBrain> didn't I just say that? ;) 21:59:13 <TrueBrain> Celestar: "this data is" is perfectly fine for 99% of the human race .. just some people hav eproblems with it :p (endless debates ;)) 21:59:28 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:28 *** Mortal is now known as Guest1249 22:01:30 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:02:20 <ccfreak2k> this->data 22:04:18 <TrueBrain> $ undefined 22:05:49 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28C9D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:45 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:07:36 <Eddi|zuHause> english is weird anyway with its "this noun is plural but it isn't" stuff 22:07:51 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: which language doesn't have that? 22:07:53 *** Guest1249 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:42 <Eddi|zuHause> grr... i have no clue why xine does not find the codec anymore 22:08:52 <TrueBrain> does xine still exists? 22:09:06 <Eddi|zuHause> mpeg2 works, but xvid and H264 don't 22:09:12 <TrueBrain> use mplayer :) 22:09:17 <Eddi|zuHause> all of a sudden... 22:09:26 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: what's wrong with xine? is it dead? (going to die?) 22:09:36 <TrueBrain> I thought it was dead .. clearly I was mistaken :) 22:09:52 <Eddi|zuHause> kaffeine uses xine as default backend 22:10:16 <Eddi|zuHause> and amarok uses xine, too 22:10:26 <TrueBrain> I learn something new every day :) 22:10:34 <SmatZ> and kmplayer may use xine, too :) 22:10:38 <TrueBrain> some idiotic roommate is testing his bicylce ringer ..... 22:10:44 <SmatZ> hehe 22:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no reason to not use xine, except that it suddenly forgets codecs... 22:11:23 <TrueBrain> sucks .. 22:13:05 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:13:22 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 22:13:26 <Eddi|zuHause> mplayer can still play them... 22:13:30 <Eddi|zuHause> weird... totally 22:13:44 <TrueBrain> hi Nite_Owl 22:13:49 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: reinstall? 22:13:59 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:15:21 <Nite_Owl> Hello TrueBrain 22:17:20 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:21 <Celestar> ok 22:17:26 <Celestar> I'm going to PARTY! 22:17:33 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... now it works again... in all the "--verbose" output there was a "undefined symbol in libavcodec<something>.so" 22:17:40 <TrueBrain> enjoy Celestar :) 22:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i updated that, and now it plays fine 22:17:48 <TrueBrain> hehehe @ Eddi|zuHause :) 22:19:07 <TrueBrain> damn ... toying with a candle can be very dangerous :) 22:19:09 <TrueBrain> haha 22:19:13 <TrueBrain> 30cm high flames ... 22:19:15 <TrueBrain> oepsie :) 22:19:19 <SmatZ> huh 22:19:39 <Eddi|zuHause> that's perfectly fine if the candle is 10m high 22:19:49 <TrueBrain> it was more like 2cm high candle :p 22:19:52 <TrueBrain> and a lot of matches ... 22:20:53 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:22:43 <ccfreak2k> 30cm flames? 22:22:52 <ccfreak2k> Was it a Roman candle or what? 22:22:56 <TrueBrain> haha 22:23:02 <TrueBrain> jus tmatches 22:23:19 <ccfreak2k> Still, that's close to a foot. 22:23:24 <TrueBrain> and enough fuel in the form of liquid parafine :) 22:23:41 <TrueBrain> as I said .. toying with candles can be very dangerous :) 22:24:07 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:24:09 <ccfreak2k> I have a hard time getting a flame out of my LIGHTER. 22:24:17 <TrueBrain> you suck :p 22:24:21 <TrueBrain> amateur! 22:26:06 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: Do it properly. Hold the paraffin in your mouth and spit across the flame. 22:26:12 <TrueBrain> haha 22:26:16 <TrueBrain> no thank you :) 22:26:34 <TrueBrain> I doubt parafin stays liquid that long .. 22:26:55 * Prof_Frink digs through ~/pictures 22:30:16 <Prof_Frink> Hmm, maybe I should have resized it 22:30:26 <Prof_Frink> Damn kio for making uploading stuff so easy 22:30:36 <TrueBrain> hahahahaa 22:31:16 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: http://alanblanchflower.co.uk/images/dscf1772.jpg 22:31:34 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is grinning and holding a spatula. Guess not.] 22:31:40 <TrueBrain> Prof_Frink: haha, you in the pic, or some random guy? 22:31:48 <Prof_Frink> Random 22:31:54 <TrueBrain> yeah, seen enough of those people :p 22:31:56 <TrueBrain> crazy people ;) 22:32:02 <Prof_Frink> Climbers. 22:32:06 <TrueBrain> but they don't use normal candles in their melted form ;) 22:33:19 <SmatZ> hmm I don't have any sound / music in OTTD. ... I wonder what I have broken now :-x 22:33:27 <Yexo> SmatZ: can you give me some help fixing the selection sprites at the soutern border? There are always drawn at height 0 22:33:31 <TrueBrain> my sounds is not fluent .. also very annoying 22:34:01 <Yexo> SmatZ: in case you've applied my patch without changes, I've disabled music and forgot to remove that part of the patch 22:34:15 <TrueBrain> lol :) 22:34:50 <Prof_Frink> Aaah, paraffin /wax/, not plain ol' paraffin. 22:35:00 <TrueBrain> Prof_Frink: yeah, that stuff :p 22:35:37 <SmatZ> hmm openttd-r1 works 22:37:07 <SmatZ> Yexo: compiling recent version of your patch :) 22:38:22 <SmatZ> ha 22:38:27 <SmatZ> I had sound volume set to 0 22:38:30 <SmatZ> :-x 22:43:20 <SmatZ> Yexo: the "point" is draw when VOID tile is drawn 22:43:37 <SmatZ> and void tiles have z == 0 (ti.z is set in ViewportAddLandscape() )... 22:44:56 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 22:46:19 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:29 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 22:49:05 <TrueBrain> if you sent out spam .. at least spell correct ... "ordeer" .... 22:50:02 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: You're getting them too? There's a different letter doubled in each copy. 22:50:11 <TrueBrain> dettails .. detaills .. sigh .. 22:50:14 <TrueBrain> yeah 22:50:16 <TrueBrain> I just noticed :) 22:50:19 <TrueBrain> I wonder why .... 22:50:29 <Prof_Frink> To try and defeat spam filters. 22:50:44 <TrueBrain> it succeeds :p 22:50:53 <Prof_Frink> Like they never mention socialism. 22:50:59 <Yexo> SmatZ: I've seen that code and tried to modify it, but then I got glitches all over the place 22:51:32 <TrueBrain> none of my filters are able to capture all of them (just 95% of those emails, where it holds 99.99% of the rest of the spam) 22:52:52 <TrueBrain> I hate burning DL DVDs ... it takes FOR EVER! :( 23:07:03 <TrueBrain> finally done :) 23:10:13 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0DB101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:18 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: rubyruy] 23:14:13 <Progman> eeuh, if you shift-build a new industry on a owned land by yourself you got an error message like "Could not build, owned by $rand" where $rand is some random text like "Goods" or "Coal", depending on the last SetDParam() call 23:14:38 <TrueBrain> nice bug :) 23:15:34 <Progman> I'm to lazy to write a bug report as it should be a quick fix 23:16:27 <Prof_Frink> Cannot remove obstacles on land! 23:16:33 <Progman> "Owned by Cola" ;) 23:17:20 <Progman> and why can't I build anyway if I own the land (and there is enought space)? 23:20:50 <TrueBrain> night all 23:23:03 <Nite_Owl> Later TrueBrain 23:34:56 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 23:37:42 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227027029.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 23:49:04 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:51:27 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:54:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:56:50 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]