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00:01:48 *** OwenS [~OwenS@host86-164-125-149.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:56 <Belugas> [17:43] <@petern> so when it went back to loud suddenly, i jumped :/ <-- lol! 00:04:06 <Belugas> how moch do I understand you :D 00:04:42 <Belugas> much o_O 00:26:51 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:31 *** lobstar is now known as lobster 00:32:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B745D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77ED7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:33:47 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 00:33:53 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 00:34:06 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 00:40:06 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 00:55:44 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:55:44 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:47 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 01:02:33 *** keiya [~kyevan@pool-71-98-3-148.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:38:20 *** goodger_ is now known as goodger 01:40:30 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-24f6e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:54:11 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228078071.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 02:03:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-142-73.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:09:12 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:05 *** fanioz [~fanio_zil@125.164.237.206] has joined #openttd 02:28:39 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:40 <Belugas> bug found 02:30:42 <Belugas> pffff 02:39:54 <SmatZ> really? 02:48:54 *** governor [gov@d60-65-117-129.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 02:57:15 <Belugas> in chaindrive 02:57:18 <Belugas> not open 02:57:20 <Belugas> sadly 02:57:25 <Belugas> or luckily? 02:57:26 <Belugas> dunno 03:00:45 *** mor [moran@89-139-211-110.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #openttd 03:00:56 <Belugas> GO TO SLEEP SMATZ!! 03:01:05 <mor> hello.... 03:01:21 <Belugas> hello mor 03:01:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:38 <mor> is there open ttd for iphone?? 03:01:53 <Sacro> mor: not officially 03:02:01 <mor> for the 2.2 version? 03:02:16 <Sacro> 03:05 < Sacro> mor: not officially 03:02:16 <mor> i know to the 1.1.4 there is.... 03:02:26 <Sacro> 03:05 < Sacro> 03:05 < Sacro> mor: not officially 03:02:46 <Belugas> mor, we DO NOT support iphone application 03:02:54 <mor> ho.... 03:02:58 <mor> i see... 03:03:10 <Belugas> it's not built by our team, we have no contact with the one who do 03:03:13 <mor> only pc right? 03:03:25 <Belugas> and i'm sure none of teh devsa have a iphone 03:03:28 <Belugas> pc indeed 03:03:38 <Belugas> been laptop or desktop 03:03:48 <SmatZ> it runs on mobila phones 03:03:48 <mor> sucks man...... 03:03:52 <Sacro> Belugas: personal computer 03:03:55 <mor> i love this game... 03:04:04 <mor> i has it on my pc... 03:04:08 <Sacro> mor: when Apple become more lenient with their licencing 03:04:20 <Sacro> and one of the devs gets one then it might happen 03:04:21 <mor> hehe.... 03:04:30 <SmatZ> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Portable_device_version 03:04:40 <mor> there is a versio for the iphone... 03:04:53 <Belugas> cool for those who have an iphone 03:05:01 <mor> but is for the older version 03:05:03 <SmatZ> not officially supported though :) 03:05:11 <mor> yep... 03:05:19 <Belugas> mor, even if it's old, you still have a version 03:05:32 <mor> i wont work.... 03:05:41 <mor> i tried.... 03:05:42 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:05:55 <Belugas> you now know that it serves no purpose to complain about it in here :) 03:06:18 <mor> so wanted to have this game on the go.. 03:06:21 <mor> yep... 03:06:24 <mor> i know... 03:06:39 <Belugas> laptop is your friend then ^_^ 03:06:52 <mor> i guess....hehe :) 03:07:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v SmatZ] by SmatZ 03:07:19 <mor> any way,thanks for your answer.... 03:07:44 <Belugas> no prob 03:07:45 <Belugas> have fun 03:08:03 <mor> best regards..... :) 03:08:06 <Belugas> and SmatZ, i'm going to sleep, ya shald da tha same 03:08:17 *** mor [moran@89-139-211-110.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #openttd [] 03:08:57 <SmatZ> :-) 03:09:04 <SmatZ> good night, Belugas :) 03:09:11 <SmatZ> I will just finish one thing.... 03:09:22 * SmatZ wishes he was paid by the cocomo model :-P 03:09:37 <SmatZ> *according to 03:29:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:32:00 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:35:31 *** fanioz [~fanio_zil@125.164.237.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:35:57 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:37:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:37:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:37:49 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 03:38:25 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233253.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:45:25 *** Zorni [zorn@e177233253.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:02:09 *** Zorni [zorn@e177224042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 04:08:37 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 04:09:34 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233253.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:15:01 *** goodger_ [~ben@host81-153-69-104.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:19:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:19:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:19:39 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 04:19:58 *** goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-104.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:25:56 <De_Ghosty> !dl win32 04:26:05 <De_Ghosty> oops 04:36:35 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:39:49 *** JosephBast [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:39:49 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:42:47 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:42:47 *** JosephBast [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:02:26 *** keiya [~kyevan@pool-71-98-3-148.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:05:33 *** goodger_ is now known as goodger 05:13:48 *** keiya [~kyevan@pool-71-98-6-23.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:21:25 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:21:25 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:21:28 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 05:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause> no warez bots here :p 05:49:01 <goodger> indeed... 06:02:47 <keiya> Uh. 06:03:23 <keiya> Someone needs to add an extra check to the town-road code/ 06:04:24 <keiya> To, you know, avoid swastika-towns 06:04:40 <keiya> ((Unless you want OpenTTD to be illegal in Germany...) 06:06:43 <goodger> :S 06:07:01 <goodger> I don't see that the town-road code can easily detect the accidental generation of swastikas 06:10:13 <Sacro> there's far funnier things for the germans to find ;)( 06:11:26 <keiya> Sacro: Are there other things illegal to distribute in germany? >_> 06:11:59 <keiya> (Personally, I just laughed and demolished half the town.) 06:20:25 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:20:41 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:23:14 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:17 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 06:33:48 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:39:58 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has joined #openttd 06:50:46 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:50:57 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 07:06:00 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 07:18:15 <petern> TrueBrain, ping :o 07:21:56 <petern> or 07:21:59 <petern> Rubidium, ping :o 07:22:11 * Forked pongs anyway 07:23:45 <Rubidium> pang 07:25:33 <Rubidium> petern? 07:32:16 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:46:17 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:46:17 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46:20 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:46:39 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h13.190.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 07:46:47 <planetmaker> morning 07:46:51 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:47:19 <goodger> morning planetmaker, vraa_, Rubidium, petern 07:47:39 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:48:11 <vraa_> sup goodger :D 07:49:21 *** vraa [~vraa@h80.226.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:50:31 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 1e6/12 07:50:32 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 07:50:52 <Eddi|zuHause> err... 07:50:57 <goodger> ^_^ 07:51:17 *** Tim-itry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:51:27 <Eddi|zuHause> De_Ghosty killed him, with his warez stuff 07:57:09 <Tim-itry> Uhm... Openttd.org + wiki down? 07:57:47 <Rubidium> works fine here 08:01:42 <Rubidium> hmm... looking at servers.openttd.org it looks like about half is missing 08:01:55 <Rubidium> so there must be some IX or peering that's broken 08:03:05 *** _Felicitus [Felicitus@p3EE3FC76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:03:06 <_Felicitus> howdy 08:03:23 <petern> *nod* 08:03:32 <petern> works from my server but not from my desktop 08:03:37 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 08:04:03 *** evandar [~evandar@trashcan.g8mb.cz] has joined #openttd 08:04:10 <petern> although 08:04:19 <petern> my tracert gets to leaseweb 08:05:20 <petern> a different part of leaseweb, though 08:07:38 <_Felicitus> i have a strange thing in openttd: since today, my two favourite servers (which i added to the config yesterday) dont appear in the "find servers" list anymore, and they are completely gone from the config - does openttd store such things anywhere else? 08:10:21 <planetmaker> hm... what happened to openttd.org? I cannot access it... 08:10:26 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:10:41 <planetmaker> doh... first read, then write ;) 08:10:45 <Rubidium> planetmaker: nothing happened with it... 08:10:47 <_Felicitus> :) 08:10:47 <goodger> ^_^ 08:12:04 <planetmaker> hm... is there a serious re-wamp of the newgrf selection UI planned, if the fruits in the basket ripe at some time? 08:13:07 <planetmaker> e.g., I wonder how much it is worth to invest either in the existing UI replacement or even re-write it such that it has more similarities to the now existing advanced settings dialogue 08:13:22 <planetmaker> which would improve its readability a lot imo 08:13:52 <planetmaker> should there be means to introduce categories for newgrfs 08:14:15 <planetmaker> (like taking the directory names or information similar to that 08:15:25 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 08:15:37 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:16:38 <Rubidium> directory names is (in my opinion) not a way to sort newgrfs and the like 08:17:48 <planetmaker> is an information file which stores category information a way to go? User editable? Or maybe a dedicated file like ottdDirInfo which provides information about dir content? 08:17:59 <Rubidium> petern: what's the ip of your home? 08:18:34 <Rubidium> or rather your desktop (at least one that fails to connect to openttd.org) 08:19:39 <Rubidium> planetmaker: that's going to be a mess when you're moving around newgrfs 08:20:05 <planetmaker> IP 134.169.28.42 fails to connect, too 08:20:48 <planetmaker> Rubidium: well, yes. But then the directory structure usually doesn't need much moving around and it's easily maintainable 08:21:17 <Rubidium> planetmaker: can you do a traceroute to openttd.org and paste it at paste.openttd.org? 08:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> why not let the user choose how to sort newgrfs? 08:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like it would be the only sortable list 08:21:45 <Rubidium> planetmaker: so you never add/remove newgrfs by copying them into a directory? 08:21:54 <Rubidium> or removing them from said directory 08:22:05 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: the problem is that there's nothing (reliable) to sort them on 08:22:24 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean the directory structure can change midgame? 08:22:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't get your point 08:23:25 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: if you put all newgrfs in a single directory, what should it sort on? 08:23:33 <Eddi|zuHause> filename? 08:23:33 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/178865 <- @ Rubidium 08:23:44 <Rubidium> what when the newgrfs are scattered over several search paths? 08:23:59 <Eddi|zuHause> same order as the search paths 08:24:10 <planetmaker> Rubidium: filename. But sorting via dir structure is e.g already done by the coop grf pack and any user can easily re-sort, if s/he doesn't like that 08:24:16 *** keiya [~kyevan@pool-71-98-6-23.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: keiya] 08:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause> fact is, some kind of newgrf management must be added 08:25:39 *** keiya [~kyevan@pool-71-98-6-23.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:26:16 <planetmaker> and scattered... you mean local grf dir and global? well. Then it's the user's fault, is it? 08:26:38 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-143-228.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:26:39 <petern> Rubidium: 217.151.109.184 08:26:49 <Eddi|zuHause> while at it: i occasionally need grfs to be marked as "obsolete", i.e. not show those grfs in the list, but have them available for backwards compatibility 08:27:10 <planetmaker> :) he, yeah, I would like that, too, Eddi|zuHause :) 08:27:32 <Rubidium> imo it's better to add tags to newgrfs themselves 08:28:00 <planetmaker> put them in a tar, jointly with an information / tag file? 08:28:01 <Rubidium> like "german", "rail", "road", "uk" 08:28:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so, how do you want to add these tags? .ini file? 08:28:24 <Rubidium> well... should be part of the newgrf 08:28:37 <Tim-itry> 10.60.14.8 does not work either, if that helps you... 08:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause> do you also want people to be able to easily add translation strings? 08:29:05 <planetmaker> like info.dat which contains lines like: Category: trains; Country: uk; Author: PB; ... ? 08:29:44 <Eddi|zuHause> .dat seems like an awful way to specify that... 08:29:50 <planetmaker> and another would then be Category: infrastructure... 08:29:51 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds very binary 08:30:01 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: why? Just make it a txt file with extention .dat :) 08:30:09 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, sure :p 08:30:32 <Eddi|zuHause> microsoft would totally do that ;) 08:30:40 <planetmaker> pfft ;) 08:32:36 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-129-36.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 08:36:08 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 08:40:37 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-129-36.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:51 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-163-4.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 08:41:34 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@150.214.221.91] has joined #openttd 08:43:34 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:43:54 *** evandar [~evandar@trashcan.g8mb.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:44:18 <petern> Tim-itry... it wouldn't, being a private ip address... 08:45:25 *** De_Ghost [~s@76-10-180-125.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 08:48:56 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-163-4.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53:26 *** De_Ghost [~s@76-10-180-125.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53:39 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-187-145.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 08:55:11 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 09:01:24 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:06:18 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:07:15 <Rubidium> C=XX,ST=There is no such thing outside US,L=Everywhere,O=OCOSA,OU=Office for Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs,CN=mailfilter1.leaseweb.com <- someone must've been in a funny mood or so 09:08:52 <goodger> ^_^ 09:18:22 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:19:43 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485F3DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:23:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BC43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:23:35 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:23:50 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43:56 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:45:23 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:51:51 <Rubidium> petern, planetmaker: can you reach the website again? 09:53:48 <planetmaker> doesn't look like... (trying out wiki... and hg...) 09:53:57 <petern> nope 09:54:04 <petern> oddly enough i'm not at home now 09:55:34 <Forked> "belive it or not, george isn't at home.. please leave a messaaageee at the beep.. " 09:58:29 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:02:38 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:02:40 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 10:02:56 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:05:38 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:05:38 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:08:40 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 10:08:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 10:10:26 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@150.214.221.91] has quit [] 10:11:04 <Rubidium> petern, planetmaker: and now? 10:12:16 <planetmaker> yes. works :) 10:12:59 <petern> still at work ;) 10:13:25 <petern> my traceroute to work looks better though 10:13:49 <petern> and to home 10:14:06 <petern> so yeah, i guess it's working :D 10:17:07 <_Felicitus> is it possible to set the servicing interval for all trains at once, or do i have to set it manually for each train i already built? 10:22:56 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 10:27:10 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:00 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:36:15 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-24f6e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:46:47 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:47 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:50 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 10:54:03 <petern> no, you can't :/ 10:54:32 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you have 10:54:39 <_Felicitus> damn :) 10:54:51 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you decompress the savegame and flip the appropriate bits 10:55:03 <TrueBrain> just set it before building 10:55:04 <TrueBrain> much easier ;) 10:55:05 <Eddi|zuHause> or you create an AI 10:55:24 <Eddi|zuHause> which goes through all trains, and sets the service interval 10:56:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i really don'k know why you are against running AI scripts directly from the console... 10:56:24 <Eddi|zuHause> s/k/t/ 10:56:41 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-26-37.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: off to town] 10:56:50 <_Felicitus> Eddi|zuHause: it gives people an unfair advantage in multiplayer 10:56:51 <petern> switching an AI on mid-game? 10:56:56 <petern> quite some cheat ;) 10:57:34 <Eddi|zuHause> it would not give them any more unfair advantage than an AI would have 10:58:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i would totally have scripts running that check for stuck trains and stuff 10:58:23 <Eddi|zuHause> or "advanced" autoreplace 10:58:32 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179062038.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause> or that scenario from yesterday (?) with sending unnecessarily waiting vehicles to depot 11:05:36 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: with Squirrel suuport in console, it wouldn't be a problem :) 11:05:48 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: exactly. 11:07:30 <TrueBrain> it still would be very much cheating :) 11:08:12 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: i don't see how you would prevent client side patches anyway 11:08:41 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: doesnt mean we have to make it VERY easy 11:08:46 <TrueBrain> there is a difference :) 11:08:56 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:23 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:09:45 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: suggestion, allow servers to be marked as "no-scripts allowed" 11:10:07 <Rubidium> whahaha 11:10:21 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: which would be VERY easy to patch client-side ;) 11:10:28 <Rubidium> that's like marking server "no map flattening allowed" 11:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause> well, some servers implement checks for that already 11:11:35 <SmatZ> for copy&paste patch? 11:12:05 <SmatZ> or for map flattening... 11:12:22 <SmatZ> everything is possible... 11:12:23 <mrfrenzy> "Hey! this user is clicking too fast" 11:12:35 <SmatZ> but also, it is possible to fool any check of this kind 11:12:36 <SmatZ> hehe 11:13:21 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but if the intention is to block script-kiddies, every increasing barrier will work only for some time 11:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that includes "we won't make patching easy" 11:13:46 <mrfrenzy> I don't seee c&p as cheating, just an improved UI. the challenge in the game is not about building stuff fast, rather making smart designs 11:13:52 <Eddi|zuHause> as soon as there is a patch, patching WILL be easy 11:14:03 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: not making the option at all, should give a reasonable amount of barriers to pass ;) 11:14:12 <SmatZ> hehe 11:14:30 <SmatZ> if c&p isn't allowed, you may code a script that builds it for you :-P 11:14:38 <SmatZ> even the c&p patch may generate that script ;) 11:14:46 <Eddi|zuHause> if you build it, he will come 11:14:51 <SmatZ> ==> making c&p obsolete as it is now... 11:15:32 * SmatZ is goting to put some food to his stomach :-P 11:19:41 <TrueBrain> but I guess it was just a matter of time before someone would start to talk about scripts to 'help' users .. just I didn't expect it to be Eddi|zuHause ;) :p 11:20:04 <Eddi|zuHause> "start"? i've been talking about that for ages... 11:31:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:32:13 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:13 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 11:39:51 <De_Ghosty> we need c&p!!!!!! 11:40:38 <petern> lies 11:43:13 <planetmaker> :) c&p is for lazy :P 11:45:26 <TrueBrain> c&p spoils the game 11:52:51 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:53:40 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:03 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:01:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc4a4.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:11:52 *** angelo [~angelo@ppp-94-65-254-83.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 12:19:52 <petern> someone commit something 12:20:05 <FauxFaux> I'd love to. 12:23:41 *** keiya [~kyevan@pool-71-98-6-23.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:49 * planetmaker fears FauxFaux commits... 12:33:45 <SmatZ> -Revert (r15027): because I can :-P 12:35:50 <frosch123> hehe, would have expected "revenge" 12:36:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15087 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Less hardcoding of y positions in town authority window. 12:36:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:37:06 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:06 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 12:37:30 <dihedral> petern, you could create the 'favorits' tab for the lobby window :-) 12:37:43 <petern> no i couldn't 12:37:44 <dihedral> and an option for selected servers: add to favorits 12:37:53 <dihedral> and on the fav tab an option 'remove' 12:38:02 <petern> but 12:38:05 <petern> - 0x6B! 12:38:09 <petern> y offset... in hex! 12:38:15 <dihedral> nice....! :-S 12:38:27 <SmatZ> :-) 12:40:28 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 12:41:30 <yorick> how many ttd crates of goods would fit in 153 cu ft? 12:43:53 <planetmaker> 6 12:44:15 <petern> 9000 12:44:26 <SmatZ> > 12:44:32 <petern> over! 12:44:42 <petern> yorick, why are you using stupid units? 12:44:43 <planetmaker> !pi * 42 ;) 12:44:47 <SmatZ> :o) 12:45:08 <Forked> how many bits does one crate of goods use and what fontsize are we printing with? 12:45:14 <petern> 153 cu ft = 4332 litres 12:45:27 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:45:37 <yorick> because the it's listed that way :p 12:46:29 <petern> the it's! 12:47:08 *** bleepy [bleepy@5adad4a6.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:24 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad9f865.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> 4m³, sounds like a small storage space 12:47:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:04 <petern> it does 12:49:27 * petern grumbles at windows not making alt-gr behave the same manner as X11 does 12:49:49 <Forked> Windows eXPerience :) 12:50:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i never had that kind of problem... 12:51:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15088 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2536]: Resize company list in town authority window if required. 12:51:47 <petern> Eddi|zuHause? it's just the way things are, not any particular bug... 12:51:58 <petern> alt-gr + 4 works the same, mind you :) 12:52:15 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:52:17 <Eddi|zuHause> ÂŒ? 12:52:23 <petern> ⬠12:52:35 <Eddi|zuHause> that's on altgr+e here 12:52:46 <SmatZ> AltGr doesn't have any special function for me (KDE) 12:52:47 <petern> yeah. not on uk keyboards 12:53:14 <petern> alt-gr + 4 did used to generate a 1/4 until the prevalence of keyboards with a euro symbol there 12:53:23 <petern> SmatZ: for X11 it depends on the keyboard layout 12:53:30 <planetmaker> yeah... some more commits. Yesterday the frequency for this year was like every hour one commit. 12:53:35 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad9f86d.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:53:35 *** bleepy is now known as Guest579 12:53:35 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 12:53:44 <petern> using a US layout does not make alt-gr do anything special, for example 12:53:50 <SmatZ> ah... 12:53:51 <petern> clearly americans never need any special characters... 12:54:09 <petern> alt-gr + ; then a gives me a á 12:54:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i once learned that the original idea of altgr was as a shortcut for ctrl+alt 12:54:35 <SmatZ> for some reason switching keyboard layout affects only newly started apps for me (since ~December)... I should fix that :-/ 12:54:53 <petern> alt-gr + the symbol keys in that group all give different (but repeatable, heh) accent characters 12:55:14 <SmatZ> yeah, alt-gr with czech layout works as expected ;) 12:55:29 <Eddi|zuHause> german layout uses dead keys for accents 12:55:32 <petern> i love this 'compose' feature :) 12:55:40 <petern> so i miss it somewhat in windows 12:55:45 <SmatZ> ŧâŧâ it types characters I have never seen :-P 12:55:55 <petern> :) 12:56:00 <petern> @bugs 12:56:00 <DorpsGek> petern: Error: The command "bugs" is available in the OpenTTD and WT2 plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "bugs". 12:56:03 <petern> @openttd bugs 12:56:03 <DorpsGek> petern: Temporary Offline 12:56:05 <petern> hm 12:56:20 <Eddi|zuHause> lack of xmlrpc, i presume 12:56:28 <Rubidium> FS removed XMLRPC 12:56:32 <TrueBrain> not so temporary after all :) 12:56:52 <SmatZ> there is Rubidium and TrueBrain still watching us :) 12:57:11 <yorick> .away away 12:57:18 <Eddi|zuHause> .fail 12:57:54 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: kind of our job, not? :) 12:57:58 <SmatZ> :-) 12:58:52 <petern> hmm 12:59:00 <dihedral> petern, @fs 123 12:59:01 <petern> i wonder how to send an encrypted email from the command line... in windows... 12:59:05 <dihedral> oh 12:59:11 <yorick> telnet ;) 12:59:15 <petern> dihedral, what? 12:59:17 <yorick> Eddi: .care 12:59:22 <dihedral> @fs 2536 12:59:22 <DorpsGek> dihedral: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2536 12:59:24 *** Guest579 [bleepy@5ad9f865.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:24 <dihedral> :-) 12:59:40 <petern> that's not what @openttd bugs did 12:59:52 <dihedral> i know 12:59:55 <petern> so then shut up 12:59:56 <petern> :) 12:59:59 <petern> kindly 13:00:02 <petern> would you kindly... 13:00:03 <dihedral> :-P 13:00:10 <SmatZ> 8-) 13:00:19 <petern> (if you've played bioshock...) 13:00:26 <dihedral> i have 13:00:29 <dihedral> the first one only though 13:00:32 * SmatZ hasn't :-/ 13:00:34 <petern> yeah that one 13:00:43 <dihedral> that was really awesome 13:00:54 <petern> hang on 13:01:01 <petern> there is only a first one, isn't there? 13:01:04 <petern> or was 2 released... 13:01:05 <dihedral> oh.... 13:01:11 <dihedral> then i might be thinking of something else 13:01:21 <petern> there's a 2 in the works 13:01:24 <petern> but not released 13:01:50 <dihedral> i was thinking of bioforge 13:01:56 <dihedral> and system shock 13:01:57 <dihedral> :-P 13:02:06 <petern> i see 13:03:33 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15089 /trunk/Makefile.bundle.in: -Fix: make install not installing the AI directory and thus the AI libraries were missing in the debian builds. 13:03:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:06:04 <petern> lol @ BT 13:14:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.194.78] has joined #openttd 13:21:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.185.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:41 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet515.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:24:14 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 13:26:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:27:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:05 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:33:42 *** angelo is now known as angelo_afk 13:47:58 <Zuu> Hmm, according to the c&p discussion earlier, it seams like if you change player using the cheat dialog to an AI player, the AI is still running while you are playing also. So there you have the scripting for single player. 13:48:07 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:49:26 <TrueBrain> Zuu: but .. a clear cheat ;) 13:50:00 <Zuu> Yes it is a cheat. And if it is possible but only as a cheat in SP I would say it is okay. 13:50:24 <Zuu> It don't ruin my game, only theirs. 13:50:51 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:51:05 <TrueBrain> exactly :) 13:53:28 *** OwenS [~OwenS@host86-164-125-149.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:59:51 *** Korhul [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:06:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:09:30 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:40 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:10:50 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:11:10 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:23:55 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 14:23:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:24:15 <Belugas> hello 14:25:22 <TrueBrain> hi Belugas :) 14:25:24 <petern> 'elo 14:25:50 <petern> how's my grfid code? ;) 14:26:08 <TrueBrain> working very well :) 14:26:31 <Belugas> which? where? 14:26:33 <Belugas> ho... that... 14:26:42 <Belugas> menoum menoum menoum menoum menoum menoum menoum 14:27:50 * petern wonders if forum topic 41224 will get any more silly 14:33:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:33:14 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:17 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 14:34:30 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:34:35 *** Tim-itry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:37:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15090 /trunk/ (12 files in 9 dirs): -Add [NoAI] [API CHANGE]: info.nut/library.nut now requires a function GetShortName(), which should return a 4 (four) character string, unique throughout the world. This id is simular to a GRFid. 14:38:07 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:38:46 <Belugas> ho yes, it can get sillier... big time... we have some of ther best users for that :S 14:39:53 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:40:33 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:43 *** sexten [~sexten@122.84-48-160.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 14:45:53 <sexten> Hello. When people talk about the "station-walk-method" do they mean i.e. building a very long station and then removing the part in the middle? Or am I missing some key-combination or something? 14:47:06 <Belugas> building a little station piece, then adding another one in the direction, removing the first part and doing so up until you have two station apart, but having the same name and therefor been just one, on two locations 14:47:52 <sexten> Yeah, that's what I thought. Thank you:) 14:51:37 <tosse> is it only if they are the same size they will be joined into one and if you try to remove one section it will remove all of it? 14:53:25 <Belugas> same size does not matter. tool matters 14:53:32 <Belugas> the prper tool for the proper task 14:53:58 <planetmaker> sexten: but in recent trunk it's not needed anymore. 14:54:04 <Belugas> dynamite is a wonderful tool, but buldozer is more precise :) try each and see the difference 14:54:23 <tosse> ahaaa 14:54:44 <planetmaker> you got the distant join functionality and can build directly with space between parts 14:55:02 <sexten> I see 14:56:18 <Belugas> so... you have the laziness option, or the workaholic one... 14:57:13 <planetmaker> hehe :) 14:57:33 <tosse> another thing, if i want PBS, i need a nightly right? 14:57:41 <planetmaker> but within (bigger) towns the distant join option is invaluable. 14:58:12 <Yexo> tosse: yes 14:58:22 <planetmaker> also it allows you to do that with less popularity loss in the town's council 14:58:39 <planetmaker> tosse: there's nothing wrong with nightlies - on the contrary :) 14:58:53 <planetmaker> more fun for the same price :P 14:58:57 <tosse> :) 14:59:09 <tosse> if i started a map on 0.6.3 can i load it in a nightly? 14:59:14 <planetmaker> yes 14:59:19 <planetmaker> but not vice versa 14:59:29 <Yexo> you'll be able to continue that map in 0.7 though 14:59:31 <tosse> no, of course :) 14:59:44 <Belugas> is not so obvious for everyone ;) 15:00:32 <Gekz> people should be deaded 15:00:40 <tosse> and, if i create a map in the scenario editor, can new industries appear in those too? or is that something you have to set up in the editor as well? 15:01:26 <Yexo> you can do both 15:01:29 <planetmaker> depends upon what settings you choose. 15:01:37 <Yexo> you can set them up in the scenario editor, but new ones will appear during the game 15:03:57 <Belugas> scenario editor is quite static, apart the trees 15:10:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F9F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:12:56 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred_furs@resnet515.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:13:10 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred_furs@resnet515.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [] 15:14:15 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:20:18 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:18 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 15:27:50 *** _Felicitus [Felicitus@p3EE3FC76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. 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Currently the directory 15:56:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: indicates the category, but this doesn't allow planned future additions 15:56:29 <petern> hmm, did anyone ever reverse engineer the dos music files? 15:56:39 <petern> (not the cat container, the music itself) 15:58:37 <frosch123> orudge is always messing with music 15:59:02 <petern> yes, but he's always messing with putting in a replacement mixer which ignores the old stuff :p 16:01:27 <SpComb> hmm, music 16:02:59 <petern> http://www.ttdpatch.net/chris_becke_ttdlx.html calls them PAT files, but... 16:04:05 <frosch123> pat sounds like pattern 16:04:33 <frosch123> however, gm dir is about 1MB, gm.cat is 420KB 16:05:32 <Belugas> ...cold... temp should drop to -33 this afternoon 16:08:17 <frosch123> Belugas: Enjoy the unrealisticness of "realistic acceleration", maybe that can keep you warm :p 16:08:31 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [] 16:09:03 <Belugas> hehe 16:09:07 <petern> :D 16:09:17 <Belugas> if it runs the cpu faster, no problem :D 16:09:26 <Belugas> faster -> more heat... 16:09:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:09:52 <frosch123> ah, you can also install gentoo without binary packages 16:10:20 <Belugas> at work? naaaaa 16:19:26 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:19:26 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:29 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 16:23:48 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:28 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-19.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 16:35:30 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:35:40 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 16:37:15 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:29 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:40:31 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:16 <orudge> [15:56:03] <petern> hmm, did anyone ever reverse engineer the dos music files? <-- somebody did, yes, but I can't remember who. Possibly it was that Chris Becke guy. 16:41:46 <orudge> ah, yes, so it would seem 16:44:37 <petern> so he didn't 16:44:44 <petern> or it's on another page 16:44:54 <petern> saying it's a "PAT" file isn't really reverse engineering... 16:46:21 <orudge> well, quite 16:46:51 <orudge> People have in the past either managed to convert those files, or possibly they just re-recorded the MIDI through an MPU-401 interface or something 16:48:34 *** tom0004 [~Tom@92.3.131.60] has joined #openttd 16:49:34 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-19.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:45 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h13.190.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:50:40 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.194.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:32 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15092 /trunk/bin/ai/library/queue/ (6 files in 3 dirs): -Fix [NoAI]: make the library internal class name consistant with their directory name 16:55:09 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:58:39 *** angelo [angelo@ppp87-236.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #openttd 16:59:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.194.78] has joined #openttd 17:00:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15093 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_station.cpp: -Fix [NoAI]: check if a tile is valid before using IsTileType (bug found by Zuu, patch by Yexo) 17:02:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:04:49 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:16:29 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:00 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.170.155] has joined #openttd 17:27:09 *** lobstah is now known as lobster 17:28:49 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:12 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-26-37.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:30:56 <Belugas> that ip range ban discussion is soooo boring 17:31:20 <SpComb> let's talk about network code instead, then 17:31:51 <goodger> or how best to have my hair cut to conceal my male pattern baldness :P 17:32:16 <SpComb> that's hardly relevant to OpenTTD :( 17:32:58 <goodger> yeah, but it's a lot more interesting 17:33:02 <SpComb> lies 17:33:10 <goodger> "male pattern baldness at 18 years old?" etc. 17:33:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A78FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:52 <Belugas> any time will do 17:34:15 * SpComb pondered about having his hair cut just now 17:34:34 <SpComb> haven't been to a barbers' for... over three years now 17:34:45 <goodger> yeah, but I thought it usually had the decency to wait until the late 30s 17:35:44 <Belugas> it's genetic 17:35:59 <goodger> hm# 17:36:05 <Belugas> i'm way older than 30s (alas) and i still have all my hair 17:36:10 <goodger> my father's 57 and he has the same hair as me :S 17:36:20 <goodger> but he was grey at 35 17:36:35 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:37:43 * Belugas sympathizes 17:37:46 *** vraa [~vraa@h25.81.141.67.static.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:59 <goodger> thank you 17:38:09 <goodger> good afternoon, vraa 17:38:18 <vraa> good morning goodger 17:38:22 <vraa> still before noon here :) 17:38:28 <goodger> ah 17:38:48 <goodger> ah, yes, texas 17:38:49 <Belugas> just got past noon 39minutes ago ^_^ 17:38:54 <goodger> I get used to EST 17:39:44 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:40:42 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:42:17 <goodger> thanks to vraa, I have reduced my friend-whiteness level to 96.55% 17:42:55 <goodger> so I'm beating the county average [99.0% white population] 17:43:30 <vraa> :) 17:43:42 <Eddi|zuHause> you have friends? 17:43:49 <frosch123> why is mb posting screenshots in french? 17:44:10 <goodger> Eddi|zuHause: I was just counting my facebook friends. the concept of friends is less rigid outside of the world of boolean logic 17:44:15 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: nobody fully understands the ways of the master 17:44:22 <goodger> heh 17:45:19 <goodger> I took a US SAT test last night 17:45:39 <goodger> it was infuriating, I got about half way through and then accidentally hit "refresh" on the scoresheet popup 17:47:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea what that means 17:47:54 <Belugas> yeah... in french... strange.. i'd expected at least in german... 17:48:20 <Eddi|zuHause> but i do remember that he has done such things in the past, too 17:48:21 <Belugas> master? ho... come on... 17:49:21 <Aali> hmm 17:50:07 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:50:22 <Aali> grf presets are saved with '\' as path separator on windows, while just about every other system expects '/', could this be changed to be consistent no matter where you saved it? 17:55:30 <petern> huh? 17:56:15 <goodger> eh? 17:56:23 <petern> wah? 17:56:28 <goodger> queh? 17:56:33 <petern> queeg? 17:56:38 <goodger> hm? 17:57:18 <goodger> no queeging, that doesn't count as a request for clarification 17:58:05 <Aali> I moved a windows .cfg file to a linux install, and all grfs in subdirs disappeared from all my presets 17:58:25 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 17:58:33 <Aali> sure, it was easy to fix but its still not nice 17:58:50 <Belugas> prrrrrt 17:59:37 <Belugas> the fact that windows requires path separators to be \ does not strike you as a good reason for that? 18:00:00 <Belugas> it wold actually mean parsing the presets and change them back to the os specifics 18:00:03 <Belugas> come on... 18:00:16 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:43 <petern> i guess that's doable 18:00:43 <petern> but i cba ;) 18:00:50 <glx> Aali: grf are stored with full path IIRC 18:00:55 <petern> doesn't stop someone writing a clean patch :D 18:01:00 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 18:01:00 <petern> glx, relative to data, no? 18:01:11 <glx> not always 18:02:13 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A78FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:02:55 <Aali> ah, and that would break anyway, obviously 18:03:43 <petern> absolute, yeah 18:03:59 <petern> shouldn't be too hard to switch \ to / or vice versa though, really 18:04:28 <Aali> I'll just work the sed magic for now :P 18:05:09 <petern> not up to the task of writing a patch? :( 18:07:31 <Belugas> hehe 18:10:50 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A78FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15094 /trunk/src/network/network.cpp: -Feature: Add support for IP range bans using CIDR notation. 18:14:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A78FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:15:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15095 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 2 dirs): 18:15:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Add [NoAI]: allow AI Libraries to be in .tar files (subdir required, as with AIs 18:15:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Add [NoAI]: allow multiple versions of the same AI co-exist 18:15:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change [NoAI]: updated the whole method of AI (Library) finding and loading; it is now much more clear and transparent 18:15:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change [NoAI]: the name of the AI is now the name used by CreateInstance() 18:15:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change [NoAI]: make the AI finder a bit more clever, mostly related to version finding 18:18:30 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:23:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.194.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15096 /trunk/src/ai/ (ai_scanner.cpp ai_scanner.hpp): 18:25:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix [NoAI]: free memory when no longer needed 18:25:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix [NoAI]: when there are multiple versions of one AI, never randonly pick an older one, but always the latest 18:26:50 <Belugas> mmh... i can imagine someone will come in his pants, now... wrt r15094 18:27:38 <petern> probably 18:28:02 <petern> or complain it doesn't support some other format 18:29:02 <Belugas> :) 18:31:20 <petern> i did love their suggestions though 18:32:03 <petern> absolutely no clue what it would've achieved... very little i suppose 18:32:30 <goodger> :S 18:33:59 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A78FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:09 <Belugas> God Only knows... admin stuff... go figure 18:35:22 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A78FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:43:03 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:47:49 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj149.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 18:53:42 *** nicfer [~Administr@168.226.105.41] has joined #openttd 18:54:19 <nicfer> one question, would be possible to run a openttd client in a framebuffer? 18:54:54 <petern> it would be pretty hard not to 18:55:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r15097 /trunk/src/lang/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:55:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-01-15 18:47:56 18:55:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 8 fixed by tucalipe (8) 18:55:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: danish - 4 fixed, 1 changed by beruic (5) 18:55:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 6 fixed by habell (6) 18:55:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: english_US - 76 fixed by WhiteRabbit (76) 18:55:33 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 7 fixed, 1 changed by glx (8) 18:55:33 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15098 /trunk/Makefile.bundle.in: -Fix [FS#2535]: MinGW's find didn't remove the .svn directories during bundling as we told it to, so we're using a slightly different approach that seems to work 18:56:33 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:35 *** tom0004 [~Tom@92.3.131.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:27 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 19:04:18 <Progman> "Now in the GUI on your AI [...]" where is this gui? 19:04:45 <Yexo> Progman: it's wip 19:05:16 <Progman> hmm, and how do I change the settings for an ai (instead of changing the code of the ai itself)? 19:05:34 <Yexo> in the config file 19:06:05 <Yexo> under [ai_players] 19:06:41 <Progman> there are several "none =" lines 19:07:04 <Yexo> say you want to configure admiralai, replace one line with: "admiralai = start_date=3,use_busses=0" 19:07:20 <Yexo> the first line is the first company (usually you), so you'll want to replace the second line 19:07:21 <Progman> aah, thanks 19:07:37 <Yexo> start_date is the time in days after the last AI that it'll start 19:13:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-118-49.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:51 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 19:28:04 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.194.78] has joined #openttd 19:35:30 <angelo> what does the 'autoreplace all vehicles in the depot" do? 19:35:45 <angelo> button 19:36:45 <frosch123> it applies the autoreplace rules to all vehicles inside the depot 19:37:23 <frosch123> it does also autorenew though if they are old enough 19:38:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host254-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:38:24 <Wolf01> hello 19:43:04 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:25 <SpComb> hmm... there's a `hg identify` command that should work well for findversion.sh 19:56:32 <SpComb> it's presumeably faster than hg status 19:57:36 <petern> $ time hg status 19:57:36 <petern> real 0m0.159s 19:57:42 <petern> $ time hg identify 19:57:42 <petern> cfaa538f9df7 tip 19:57:42 <petern> real 0m0.386s 19:57:46 <el_en> SpComb: btw, "Click the timestamp/nick to view the line in it's context" has one apostrophe too many. 20:00:18 <SpComb> petern: it also does a hg log, hg parents, etc 20:00:39 <petern> seems not to 20:01:02 <petern> as that "cfaa..." was the only line from it 20:02:01 <SpComb> I mean findversion.sh 20:02:17 <petern> uh huh 20:02:23 * SpComb is trying to do mercurial version autodetection in a cmake build script, and failing 20:05:40 *** Entane [asdf@c1B6B47C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 20:13:16 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:14:21 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj149.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 20:14:43 <nicfer> with running openttd on a framebuffer I meant to run it on linux without a x server 20:16:08 <petern> fbcon, then 20:16:42 <petern> "frame buffer" is rather generic and extends to any sort of buffer holding a frame... which any raster graphics device has to do... 20:17:27 <petern> SDL might be capable of using fbcon if you invoke it with the correct parameters, or bits installed. 20:17:34 <petern> you might need to be root though 20:20:12 <nicfer> root to run openttd? 20:20:51 <petern> to let it fiddle with fbcon, yeah. i don't know though 20:20:53 <OwenS> To access the framebuffer 20:24:40 <Belugas> hehe... have not seen that peter closed the more than 8 players bug. no wonder i cold not find it... 20:24:50 <Belugas> well... one task less to work on... 20:25:05 <nicfer> wouldn't be risky to run openttd as root? 20:25:36 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad84b51.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:25:43 <OwenS> Yes, but you will have to do it if your fbcon parameters are tight (Which is normally a Good Thing (tm)) 20:26:13 <Belugas> what are the risks involved? (jsut wondering_ 20:26:38 <OwenS> Can steal your FB from X, which can probably horribly confuse it considering X's fragility 20:27:18 <Belugas> ha.. ok... was expecting something like intrusion or such 20:27:23 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:33 * Belugas is a total nulitty when it comes to linux world 20:27:50 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad9f9f7.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:50 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 20:28:24 <OwenS> X has some really silly stuff also 20:28:35 <OwenS> Like PCI remapping support (For sucky kernels which can't do it themselves?) 20:29:00 *** Moodles [Tallarines@60-242-71-35.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:29:03 <edeca> Well it runs on more than one OS, so that's the quickest hack ;) 20:29:15 <edeca> Rather than argue with 3 different sets of kernel hackers who all have their own bibles 20:29:33 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:39 <OwenS> Why isn't the kernel remapping the hardware properly in the first place? It's a piece of cake! 20:30:04 <OwenS> Just find some free address space and start doling out address mappings 20:30:07 <edeca> Heh :) 20:30:09 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:35 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:30:51 <OwenS> It's much easier to do that in the kernel which has access to the address map (From the BIOS, OpenFirmware, EFI, GRUB, Das Uboot, compiled in, etc) 20:31:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:02 <edeca> I agree with you! But imagine selling that to some developers ;) 20:32:04 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:32:51 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:33:14 <petern> i miss dga :( 20:34:07 <edeca> dga? 20:34:23 <petern> x11 extension 20:34:50 <petern> allowed for extremely fast device access, but needed root 20:35:06 <petern> it also allowed x to switch to 8bpp 20:35:08 <OwenS> I'm gonna celebrate when they finally decide that DRI was a crappy idea and that nVIDIA were right to ignore it 20:35:50 * edeca hates getting nvidia to work with twinview 20:36:01 <petern> hmm 20:36:09 <edeca> I've got 2 different size screens, which buggers up everything usually 20:36:14 <petern> only nvidia *does* twinview 20:36:49 <edeca> Yea, exactly. 20:36:58 <OwenS> I use Twinview also :) 20:36:59 <edeca> Because 2 different screens doesn't work nicely with xinerama or other solutions 20:37:08 <edeca> (in my experience, I'm sure it's possible) 20:37:16 <OwenS> On two different sized screens 20:37:45 <OwenS> I have a 19" 1280x1024 which I do useful stuff on, and an old 15" 1024x768 which I stick XChat and Kopete on :p 20:38:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-17.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:38:45 <edeca> Heh, I've got a huge widescreen thing that I mostly have to look cool with compiz and a little 19" for working on 20:38:50 <petern> xinerama seems to work nicely for me 20:39:14 <OwenS> Compiz? Bleh. KWin4's effects are good enough :p 20:39:21 <edeca> OwenS: I haven't compiled that yet :) 20:39:27 <OwenS> Compiled? Gentoo?! 20:39:38 <edeca> My gentoo/paludis build is completely buggered due to 3 years of neglect 20:39:43 <OwenS> heh lol 20:39:47 <OwenS> Gentoo is basically dying it seems =( 20:39:55 <Zuu> My problem with twinview in Linux though is to get my wacom to work in twinview too. So the wacom pad represents the space of both screens. 20:39:57 <OwenS> Which is disappointing, cause they have excelent howtos :p 20:40:28 <edeca> OwenS: It's a great idea, but a lot of overhead. 20:40:35 <edeca> OwenS: And portage *sucks* 20:40:42 <OwenS> apt-get ftw 20:40:46 <edeca> Yeah, I love aptitude 20:40:59 * edeca has super-cow powers 20:41:25 <OwenS> My first Linux distro (...that worked...) was Debian, stable no less, in an era of Ubuntu. Go figure 20:41:36 <OwenS> This was just after Sarge was released of course, but still 20:41:51 <edeca> Mm, I quite like ubuntu but it has its own problems 20:42:05 <OwenS> I'm now using Ubuntu 8.10 and cursing it's broken Bluetooth 20:42:45 <edeca> Yeah, 8.10 broke loads of hardware (gfx & audio in my experience) 20:43:25 <OwenS> The dist-upgrade, even from an 8.04 with the KDE4.1 repositories and other cruft, worked fine for me, but Bluetooth is broken cause BlueZ 3 doesn't work with the kernel and KDEBluetooth doesn't work with BlueZ 4 20:44:38 <edeca> Ooh, squirrel, whassat. 20:44:39 * edeca looks 20:44:43 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@45.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 20:44:45 <OwenS> Programming language? 20:44:51 <Terkhen> good evening 20:44:55 <edeca> And a new patches GUI possibly? All these changes in a few days, I can't keep up :) 20:45:01 <edeca> Hi Terkhen, cheese? 20:45:22 <Terkhen> what kind of cheese? 20:45:36 <edeca> Whatever type you like! 20:46:43 <Terkhen> a slice of gorgonzola, then 20:48:03 <edeca> Good choice. 20:57:49 <edeca> Oooh, shiny new patch GUI! 20:57:55 <edeca> That's really nice 20:59:05 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CDD3.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:59:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15099 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_map.cpp: -Fix (r15078): GetTileIndex(0, -1) is perfectly fine 21:00:37 *** evandar [~evandar@213.168.176.142] has joined #openttd 21:07:46 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 21:08:07 <Aali> nice 21:08:26 <Aali> funny side-effect/bug/cheat in cargodest 21:08:59 <Aali> you can have a vehicle "loading" at a station to increase your rating and not really have it load anything, ever 21:09:02 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:10:09 *** evandar [~evandar@213.168.176.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:11:30 <Yexo> it's that the same in trunk? Just make a iron-ore train full load at a station where there'll never be any iron ore 21:11:48 <Yexo> hmm, that doesn't work :( 21:12:13 <frosch123> you would need a rating for every destination in cargodest :) 21:12:43 <Aali> or change the rating system to only count vehicles that are actually loading something 21:13:44 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:13:55 <Aali> actually, I guess you could make it depend on the vehicles orders 21:14:19 <Aali> no unloading order at a station that accepts the cargo = no rating increase 21:18:44 <edeca> So then you just add another order with a station it can't even get to? 21:19:28 <Aali> it will still load 21:19:37 <Aali> and then you have to unload or sell it 21:20:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truebrain * r15100 /trunk/src/ai/ (ai_instance.cpp api/ai_map.hpp api/ai_map.hpp.sq): -Add [NoAI]: introduce TILE_INVALID as const 21:22:11 <dihedral> hello TB 21:23:26 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:27:53 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:27:53 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 21:38:04 * edeca suggests adding src/3rdparty/* to .hgignore 21:38:20 <edeca> And similar to .gitignore too, probably 21:38:33 <Aali> err 21:38:49 <Aali> hg automatically ignores nested hg repos 21:39:00 <Belugas> nice... now i need to take care of amex commercial cards :( 21:39:01 <edeca> Ar, I didn't check it out :) 21:39:10 <edeca> I'll clone it into there instead 21:39:52 <edeca> Aali: Thanks 21:40:17 <Aali> don't thank me, I didn't implement that feature :P 21:41:28 <edeca> So *that's* why they do those stupid safety demos: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7832191.stm 21:42:48 <Aali> talk about bad luck, both engines trashed by birds 21:44:16 <edeca> Yeah, can't win them all :) 21:45:50 *** nicfer1 [~Administr@168.226.105.41] has joined #openttd 21:45:51 *** nicfer [~Administr@168.226.105.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46:10 *** tom0004 [~Tom@92.3.131.60] has joined #openttd 21:48:00 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 21:51:48 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc4a4.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:32 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-26-37.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:38 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:11 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-26-37.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:07:17 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Mortal] 22:19:33 *** tom0004 [~Tom@92.3.131.60] has quit [Quit: http://www.chogie.eu] 22:20:42 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 22:24:07 <Wolf01> there's any dev (or good at coding) not busy who want to help me? 22:25:43 <Wolf01> I'm trying to understand how to draw a sloped track under the stations instead of the plain track 22:26:10 <Aali> is the track not part of the station sprite? 22:26:18 <Aali> or is that just some grfs? 22:26:45 <Wolf01> looking at this: 22:26:46 <Wolf01> image += GetCustomStationGroundRelocation(statspec, st, ti->tile); 22:26:47 <Wolf01> image += custom_ground_offset; 22:27:10 <Wolf01> seem the track and the stations are 2 different sprites 22:27:30 <Wolf01> but I'm very not familiar with drawing code 22:27:30 <petern> you will need to add to the spec to handle sloped tiles 22:29:55 *** vraa [~vraa@h25.81.141.67.static.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:41:58 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:07 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:45:16 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:46:55 * SpComb managed to make cmake do what he wants it to do 22:51:43 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.170.155] has quit [Quit: An exit status of zero indicates success, and a nonzero value indicates failure.] 22:56:57 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad38356.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 23:00:21 <SmatZ> midnight... again.... 23:00:42 <TinoDidriksen> Has a tendency to occur every day. Blasted thing. 23:02:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad84b51.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:43 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 23:03:18 <SmatZ> :-( 23:07:04 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:07:04 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:07:07 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:07:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F9F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:33 <Wolf01> ok, last try, then I'll go sleep 23:11:01 <SmatZ> good night, Wolf01 23:11:56 <Wolf01> if only it doesn't take 15 minutes to link the objects -.- 23:12:12 <SmatZ> huh 23:12:21 <Rubidium> 1) don't build MSVC release builds when you don't need the speed 23:12:45 <Rubidium> 2) use gcc if you want the linking to go faster, compiling goes slightly slower though 23:13:32 <Wolf01> I always forgot that debug doesn't make the exe, and when I want the speed I always forgot to switch back to debug :P 23:19:45 <Wolf01> ok, I managed to change the ground sprite 23:21:22 <dihedral> â wide awake â really tired 23:21:26 <dihedral> good night 23:22:24 <SmatZ> good night, dihedral! nice UTF-8 art! 23:24:48 *** OwenS [~OwenS@host86-164-125-149.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:07 <petern> debug doesn't make an exe? i must be doing it wrong... 23:33:20 <SmatZ> http://tapenoisediary.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/your-doing-it-wrong.jpg 23:39:31 <Wolf01> no, my MSVC has become stupid, I must have touched something for another project and since that it doesn't make .exe anymore on debug for every project 23:45:02 <Wolf01> OK! now I have sloped roadstops with the right graphics 23:45:43 <Wolf01> works like a charm 23:47:08 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:47:24 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 23:48:12 * Wolf01 http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/sloped_roadstops.PNG 23:48:34 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179062038.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 23:51:09 <glx> works but looks strange 23:51:31 <Wolf01> rivers look strange too without grf 23:51:56 <glx> but they are not on the road ;) 23:52:16 *** nicfer1 [~Administr@168.226.105.41] has left #openttd [] 23:52:59 <Wolf01> uhm, I missed a check for the road bay :P 23:53:27 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:55:13 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]