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00:01:52 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76631.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:13 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:16 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051124255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 00:58:23 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485ECAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:02:23 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C6BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:08 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 01:28:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r15313 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup: Use helper functions we already have and add some documentation. 01:30:39 <Sacro> http://www.itsnottingham.info/mapping/cctv.asp# <- EPIC WIN XD 01:31:58 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:02 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 01:50:59 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54:10 *** blathijs_ [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 01:56:08 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:23 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 02:20:41 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 02:27:04 *** angelo [~angelo@ppp-94-65-240-222.home.otenet.gr] has quit [] 03:01:36 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:03:31 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:49 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:28:25 *** rohan [~pegasus@host16.201-253-137.telecom.net.ar] has joined #openttd 03:28:30 <rohan> hi ppl 03:28:39 <rohan> i have a problem with ottd 03:28:46 *** rohan [~pegasus@host16.201-253-137.telecom.net.ar] has quit [] 03:29:02 *** rohan [~pegasus@host16.201-253-137.telecom.net.ar] has joined #openttd 03:29:32 <rohan> can someone help me i have a problem 03:32:06 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:35:49 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 03:35:59 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:39:26 *** rohan [~pegasus@host16.201-253-137.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 03:40:45 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 03:50:16 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-139.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 04:01:23 *** Zorn| [zorn@e177229242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 04:08:48 *** Zorn [zorn@e177239133.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:12:25 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.172] has joined #openttd 04:18:04 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.96.172] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:22 *** Mortomes_ [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 04:18:56 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:24:30 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:27:04 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:29:58 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-140-66-59.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:50 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Quit: Quit] 04:42:18 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 04:59:43 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:42:41 *** Mortomes_ is now known as Mortomes 05:54:02 *** WhiteRhino [~WhiteRhin@c-76-19-152-149.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:54:19 * WhiteRhino returns. And now on Cable. 05:54:50 <Forked> mmm cable 05:55:29 * WhiteRhino also watches a set of YouTube videos where a guy plays through X-COM: Enemy Unknown 05:55:56 <Forked> I saw gamersgate had some offer on the x-com series.. all of then for £8 or something 05:56:01 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-139.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 05:57:25 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 05:58:59 <WhiteRhino> I say it's definately worth it. The game's fan-freaking-tastic. 05:59:27 <Forked> I know (and remember), but there is this little damned thing called time.. and there aint enough of it :\ 06:01:34 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [] 06:03:32 <WhiteRhino> Ahh. Yeah, lack of time sucks.. On the plus side, with my new connection, I think I can play OpenTTD online without troubles. 06:03:51 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:11:34 *** evandar [~evandar@213.168.176.142] has joined #openttd 06:13:38 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.67] has joined #openttd 06:15:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.169.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:24:11 *** evandar [~evandar@213.168.176.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:35:16 *** WhiteRhino [~WhiteRhin@c-76-19-152-149.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 07:00:00 *** Mortomes is now known as Guest7 07:15:05 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:29:08 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:33:55 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:37:12 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:56:32 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:57:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F07B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:15:35 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:16:18 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:49 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:40 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.67] has joined #openttd 08:34:05 *** Guest7 [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:49:46 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:52:10 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:52:18 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 08:53:21 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.67] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 08:55:25 *** joepie91 [~s@cadart.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 09:09:38 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:40:32 *** genclay [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:43:01 *** xerxesdaphat [~tom@118-92-158-146.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #openttd 09:43:38 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust631.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:51 *** xerxesda1hat [~tom@118-93-165-41.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:03 *** blathijs_ is now known as blathijs 10:11:46 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:13:08 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:20:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:29:16 *** angelo [~angelo@ppp-94-65-240-222.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 10:35:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.169.32] has joined #openttd 10:46:22 <dihedral> that wee bit of snow, and brits close down the country 10:52:38 <dihedral> oh my - this 'ProDigit' kid is a pain up the fuzzy rear end 10:53:10 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 10:59:27 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.108] has joined #openttd 10:59:48 <petern> no u 11:01:50 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 11:02:40 <petern> grrr, fucking software 11:07:00 <joepie91> ok, people i have a problem again :P 11:07:12 <joepie91> i expanded my station (with oil incoming, goods outgoing) 11:07:21 <joepie91> and now no goods are dropped off by the oil refinery anymore 11:07:28 <joepie91> screenshot: http://i40.tinypic.com/9zvul4.png 11:07:35 <joepie91> it's in multiplayer, using a cargodest 11:07:40 <joepie91> cargodest build* 11:08:08 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:12:10 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:20 <Progman> maybe there was no route found to a town which accepts goods 11:17:06 <joepie91> as far as i know, the end point supports goods... it always did :S 11:17:26 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9F2DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:23 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:13 <petern> towns can be quite variable for goods, if they're smallish 11:23:25 <Progman> the extra line is however not the reason for the cargo (not) drop at the station as the station is still in range 11:24:23 <Sacro> since when was petern an op? 11:24:29 <Sacro> he's nowhere near mature enough 11:27:32 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9F2DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:29:40 <joepie91> hmm 11:29:53 <petern> Sacro: no u 11:30:03 <petern> ur mom 11:30:08 <petern> smells of cheese 11:30:10 <joepie91> well, i built a truck line to transport the goods deeper into town... now it works, even tho the train station still shows goods as accepted cargo 11:30:12 <joepie91> anyways, it works now 11:32:38 <petern> Sacro, why not? 11:44:50 <Sacro> pfft 11:45:06 <petern> what/ 11:45:29 * petern idly wonders how he's nowhere near mature enough... 11:55:00 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 11:55:02 <Celestar> \o 11:56:35 <Rubidium> moin? 11:56:45 <Celestar> not very, no 11:57:19 <Celestar> I'm now sitting on my comp for almost 5 hours for an XP installation :P 11:57:55 <Celestar> meanwhile, I managed to INSTALL it 11:57:59 <Rubidium> installing XP doesn't take that long 11:58:17 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad46207.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:58:28 <Celestar> Rubidium: well, it does if the installation ends up in a bluescreen after 30 seconds 11:58:50 <Rubidium> that's impressive ;) 11:58:59 <Celestar> I have meanwhile found out that XP doesn'T work on a SATA disk if the controller is in native mode. 11:59:16 <Celestar> if you put it to compatibility mode, you can install it. 11:59:17 <Rubidium> unless you load the right driver in the begin 11:59:31 <Celestar> Rubidium: which is difficult on a laptop that doesn't have a floppy disk 11:59:50 <Rubidium> slipstream it into the install cd 11:59:55 <Rubidium> or RIS 12:00:01 <Celestar> then installing all drivers for the laptop takes about one hour, since XP doesn'T recognize the NIC. 12:00:14 <Celestar> so you have to USB-stick it onto the comp manually. 12:00:34 <Celestar> but this is where the fun only begins. 12:00:49 <Celestar> I'Ve downloaded the display driver (which is a measly 85MB) and installed it. 12:00:58 <petern> heh 12:00:58 <Celestar> everything works, except OpenGL. 12:01:02 <Celestar> and this is where I'm stuck 12:01:14 <petern> so, er, install debian and then xp in a virtual machine? 12:01:27 <Rubidium> ofcourse OpenGL doesn't work... it's Windows 12:01:45 <Celestar> petern: I have XP 64bit running in a virtual machine just fine. 12:01:51 <Celestar> petern: on VMware workstation. 12:02:14 <Celestar> but, alas, VMware workstation does not support OpenGL. hence I thought installing XP natively would enable me to run an OpenGL application 12:02:19 <Celestar> apparrently, I was mistaken 12:02:24 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051124255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:02:40 *** el_en_dash [~lanurm@castor.utu.fi] has joined #openttd 12:02:46 <petern> hmm, virtualbox does, i think 12:02:49 <dihedral> Celestar, it's not the computer you (used to) develop cargodest on, ist it? (hint hint) 12:03:19 <dihedral> s/ist/is/ 12:03:22 <Celestar> it is. 12:03:30 <dihedral> now that's a bummer 12:03:42 <Celestar> oh yes. activating XP doesn'T work either with an error 45131 12:03:55 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad545c5.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:55 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 12:04:16 <dihedral> Celestar, why not install linux? :-P 12:04:25 <Celestar> dihedral: because it is already installed and running. 12:04:33 <dihedral> ohhh 12:05:11 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:27 * dihedral has a week off now 12:05:32 <dihedral> i am off sick, but hey 12:05:44 <dihedral> it's a week where nothing's planned 12:05:54 * dihedral will be borred 12:06:07 *** Mortomes_ [~mortomes@circle.a-eskwadraat.nl] has joined #openttd 12:06:54 <Celestar> the questions are: 1) Why does the Lenovo driver for the Radeon not contain a proper openGl part and 2) Why does the ATI driver for their graphics card not recognize the card AT ALL? 12:07:13 <Forked> you have nvidia! :p 12:07:19 <dihedral> Celestar, try omega drivers 12:07:42 <petern> one of my colleagues has been off work for a month and is signed off for another month 12:07:45 <petern> poor lass 12:07:51 <petern> glandular fever type thing 12:07:51 <Celestar> dihedral: I did, with no success so far. 12:08:01 <Celestar> dihedral: they don'T recognize the card either. 12:08:06 <dihedral> what card do you have? 12:08:14 <Celestar> Radeon HD3400. 12:08:19 <dihedral> odd 12:08:27 <Celestar> dihedral: of course, ATI's linux driver work perfectly on that card. 12:08:33 <dihedral> hehe 12:08:42 <Celestar> I'm _soo_ tempted to try Win7 on that problem :P 12:09:09 <dihedral> yuck 12:09:13 <dihedral> that stinks 12:09:22 <dihedral> petern, i just need something to do over that time 12:09:22 <Celestar> I _need_ to run CATIA 12:09:24 *** Mortomes_ is now known as Mortomes 12:09:49 <petern> dihedral: patch writing? :D 12:09:55 <dihedral> yep 12:09:57 <dihedral> sounds good to me 12:10:25 <dihedral> just let it be something i can actually do 12:10:30 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 12:15:06 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 12:15:35 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:15:56 <Celestar> so, how do I force the driver installation :D 12:16:10 <Rubidium> you don't 12:16:38 <Rubidium> you're just plugging in the hardware and praying it works 12:18:00 <Celestar> why doesn't setup.exe have --just-do-it switch?! 12:18:26 <Rubidium> because the global variable "iswindows" is set 12:18:43 <Celestar> --just-do-it-even-if-iswindows-is-it ? 12:19:58 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 12:20:03 <TrueBrain> hello lovely people :) 12:20:19 * Celestar hugs TrueBrain 12:22:05 <Rubidium> morning TrueBrain 12:22:23 * TrueBrain hugs Celestar back :) 12:22:25 <TrueBrain> how are you doing? 12:22:45 <Celestar> 12:57 < Celestar> I'm now sitting on my comp for almost 5 hours for an XP installation :P <= like so 12:23:00 <TrueBrain> today I heard the argument pro EEE PC and against mobile, that you can play OpenTTD on your EEE ... how nice is that ;) 12:23:07 <TrueBrain> Celestar: poor Celestar .. don't use XP, I say :p 12:23:19 <Celestar> TrueBrain: suggestions? 12:23:22 <Zr40> TrueBrain :) 12:23:25 <TrueBrain> Linux 12:23:26 <TrueBrain> dah 12:24:04 <Celestar> TrueBrain: I have already installed opensuse 11.1 12:24:12 <Zr40> Celestar: recent hardware? 12:24:19 <Celestar> and a freebsd as a VM and an XP as a VM 12:24:21 <Celestar> Zr40: very 12:24:25 <Zr40> why not vista then? 12:24:33 <TrueBrain> Celestar: so what is your problem? 12:24:39 <TrueBrain> start XP and go do something useful 12:24:41 <TrueBrain> like .. cargodest :p 12:24:54 <TrueBrain> Zr40: you call Vista an OS? 12:24:55 <TrueBrain> poor you 12:25:12 <Zr40> oh come on, I have yet to see a valid argument against vista, besides running on old harware 12:25:21 <Zahl> hi everybody! 12:25:23 <TrueBrain> slow 12:25:24 <TrueBrain> crappy 12:25:25 <TrueBrain> annoying 12:25:26 <TrueBrain> bad 12:25:30 <TrueBrain> not compatible 12:25:32 <Zr40> sure, I don't agree with certain defaults, but that's what they are, defaults 12:25:33 <Celestar> Zr40: no argument yet except that the application that I need to run mostly doesn't work on Vista. 12:25:35 <TrueBrain> did I mention: annoying? :p 12:25:39 <Zahl> vista = alpha of win7 12:25:42 <TrueBrain> hello Zahl 12:25:42 <Zr40> TrueBrain: how come I don't experience any of those? 12:26:02 <TrueBrain> Vista is like ME 12:26:02 <Celestar> Zr40: I mean doesn't run at all· 12:26:14 <TrueBrain> Zr40: because you are a bad user? :p 12:26:23 <Zr40> Celestar: okay. which app btw? 12:26:34 <Celestar> Zr40: CATIA v5R16 12:26:43 <Celestar> R14 sorry. 12:26:49 <TrueBrain> Zr40: example: when I start my Vista, I have to wait 30 (!) seconds before I can access my internal (!) LAN 12:27:17 <TrueBrain> Celestar: we forgive you :) 12:27:27 <Zr40> Celestar: is that a CAD app? 12:27:28 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 12:27:31 <Zahl> in general i think there is no real reson to switch to vista. it really feels like an early unfinished version of windows 7. there is just no reason to use vista instead of xp. 12:27:34 <Zr40> TrueBrain: doesn't happen here 12:27:53 <TrueBrain> Zr40: so that settles it :) 12:27:54 <TrueBrain> lol 12:27:59 <Zahl> whereas the windows 7 beta really surprised me positively 12:28:00 <TrueBrain> always a nice counter-argument: it doens't happen here :p 12:28:02 <Celestar> Zr40: yes. 12:28:05 <Zr40> sounds like either a driver or dhcp issue 12:28:09 <TrueBrain> Zahl: we will see :) 12:28:19 <TrueBrain> Zr40: static IP 12:28:22 <TrueBrain> and works under XP :p 12:28:26 <Zr40> driver then :) 12:28:33 <Zahl> TrueBrain: true :D 12:28:39 <TrueBrain> Windows default driver 12:28:43 <TrueBrain> sounds nasty ;) 12:28:44 <Zr40> well, update it :) 12:28:45 <dihedral> Celestar: you can 'right-click' the ini file and it has an option: install 12:28:47 <TrueBrain> as I said: crappy, annoying, bad 12:29:00 <Zr40> just because of one network boot bug? 12:29:18 <Celestar> dihedral: yeah, I'll try that next. 12:29:28 <TrueBrain> nah 12:29:30 <TrueBrain> just one exaxmple 12:29:32 <Zahl> Zr40: oh btw, where is Zircon? :P 12:29:33 * Celestar wonders whether it would have been faster to port VMGL to Xen. 12:29:38 <Zr40> Zahl: ? 12:29:56 <Zahl> Zr40: wasn't that your bot that drew this social network graph? ;) 12:30:04 <Zahl> some years ago 12:30:07 <Zr40> aaaah, that was ages ago :) 12:30:07 <dihedral> TrueBrain, nice to see you here? what brings you into this channel? 12:30:29 <TrueBrain> just wondering how people were doing :) 12:30:49 <Celestar> TrueBrain: I just find it amazing that ATI's linux driver works perfectly on the graphics card and the windows XP driver doesn'T even find it. 12:31:01 <Zr40> Celestar: laptop? 12:31:07 <petern> not in its list of pci device ids... 12:31:13 <Celestar> need a specially modified Lenovo driver for it, which apparently lacks usable Opengl support. 12:31:13 <TrueBrain> Celestar: hehehehehehe :) 12:31:16 <Celestar> Zr40: yes. 12:31:48 <Zr40> Celestar: ah yes, the ati drivers refuse to install on 'customized' hardware 12:32:04 <Celestar> Zr40: apparently. 12:32:16 <petern> TrueBrain, i can play openttd on my mobile! 12:32:17 <Zr40> I think it's the same with nvidia though 12:32:19 <dihedral> Zr40: that however does not explain why omega driver would fail also 12:32:24 <petern> it's not very nice though 12:32:25 <TrueBrain> petern: yeah ... I know :p 12:32:51 <petern> (using that series 60 port, which is not evil like the pocketpc one) 12:33:00 <Zr40> dihedral: maybe it's a new card and the PCI ID hasn't been added to the omega driver? 12:33:31 <Celestar> isn't the omega driver basically an older Catalyst minus some bloatware? 12:34:31 <Zr40> TrueBrain: see #1 here: http://www.thenetworkadministrator.com/top20.htm 12:35:47 <TrueBrain> Zr40: as I said: worst argument ever 12:36:20 <dihedral> Celestar, i think it's even more 'modified' than that 12:38:33 <Celestar> dihedral: I see 12:39:11 <TrueBrain> well, I wish you all a very good day :) Bubuye :) 12:39:13 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has left #openttd [So long and tnx for all the fish] 12:40:38 <Celestar> buwhat? 12:41:42 <Celestar> has anyone ever tried a manual Vista installation? 12:42:47 <Sacro> Celestar: dd? 12:42:56 <Sacro> or cp :p 12:43:06 <Celestar> YES! 12:43:07 <Celestar> it works! 12:44:53 <dihedral> cargodest? 12:44:54 <dihedral> :-P 12:45:09 <dihedral> the haunting of Celestar 12:46:32 <Zr40> Celestar: manual? 12:47:02 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28EA3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:29 * dihedral is borred 12:48:06 *** HansAffe [~piespy@rps4190.ovh.net] has joined #openttd 12:49:13 <Zr40> meh. this irc client sucks. 12:49:40 *** mikl [~mikl@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 12:49:48 <Zr40> what do you use? 12:50:53 <Celestar> Zr40: manually forcing XP to install the 9.1 Catalyst drivers 12:51:04 <Celestar> Zr40: despite of all the whining that it might be the wrong one 12:51:07 <dihedral> Zr40, google 12:51:33 <Zr40> dihedral: google doesn't tell me which client you use 12:51:44 <dihedral> i use google to find my client 12:52:05 <Celestar> all I need now is to teach XP on booting from an AHCI device 12:53:46 * Zr40 tries HydraIRC 12:54:54 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:55:01 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:55:31 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 12:56:11 *** angelo [~angelo@ppp-94-65-240-222.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:23 <Zr40> this looks better than xchat :) 12:56:50 <dihedral> Zr40, i use xchat and xchat aqua 12:57:13 <Zr40> well, if I minimize and then restore xchat, it's no longer maximized 12:57:19 <Zr40> and if I click the tray icon, it crashes 12:57:25 <dihedral> you are on windows right? 12:57:28 <Zr40> right 12:57:31 <dihedral> yuck 12:57:37 <Zahl> Zr40: http://cod.spieleplanet.eu/images/openttd.png :-) 12:57:49 <Zr40> :) 12:59:16 <dihedral> that's just nasty 13:00:01 <Gekz> Zahl: is that an irssi script 13:00:03 <Gekz> or is it worse 13:00:11 <Zahl> its worse 13:00:14 <Zahl> its written in java :P 13:00:15 <Gekz> xchat. 13:00:17 <Gekz> OH gOD 13:00:20 <Forked> forked: how does this show on that thing? 13:00:25 <Forked> forked: I'm not sure, but I can't wait to see! 13:00:48 <Zr40> I think it doesn't count talking to yourself :) 13:01:01 <dihedral> Forked, it will just correctly show how think you are :-D 13:02:22 <Forked> dihedral: think? :\ 13:02:52 <dihedral> it said that the thinkness of a line is equals the strength of the "relationship" 13:03:03 <dihedral> now there will be no line between Forked and Forked will there 13:03:04 <dihedral> :-D 13:03:05 <Zr40> thick 13:03:10 <Zr40> not think :) 13:03:15 <dihedral> yes 13:03:15 <dihedral> that 13:03:27 <dihedral> so you will be an overly FAT blobb :-D 13:03:28 * Zr40 feels closely related to dihedral 13:03:35 <dihedral> shutup 13:03:36 <petern> crap, still snowing 13:03:37 <dihedral> :-P 13:03:41 * Zahl feels Zr40 13:03:42 <Zahl> no wait 13:03:45 <Zahl> :-D 13:03:50 <dihedral> petern, how much snow ya have yet? 13:04:01 <dihedral> my mom's flight got cancled from heathrow because of the snow 13:04:04 <petern> er, a couple of inches :p 13:04:13 <Forked> dihedral: oh. thick. Are you calling me fat!?`!+1+1+ 13:04:14 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:04:35 <dihedral> i started off calling you thik :-D 13:04:40 <dihedral> *thick 13:04:44 <Zahl> petern: is it ok to have a bot in the chan that doesn't say anything and just draws fancy images? =) 13:04:47 <planetmaker> good day folks 13:05:02 <Rubidium> just highlight everyone and it'll ruin his experiment! 13:05:14 <Zahl> true :/ 13:05:20 <Zr40> Rubidium, not really, those will be weak links and disappear shortly after 13:05:22 <Forked> Rubidium: I was pondering about that.. just to be the central name on the image thingy 13:05:22 <planetmaker> (at)nicks? :P 13:05:36 <Forked> but one would likely be booted for being highly annoying 13:05:41 <dihedral> Rubidium, the @nicks command will do that for ya 13:05:42 <Zahl> well it has some temporal decay, so after some time it should normalize again 13:05:42 <Forked> Gekz: you're on the other side of the swarm ! 13:05:50 <Gekz> ... I care why 13:05:50 <Zahl> axcept if somebody keeps doing that 13:06:00 <petern> @nicks 13:06:00 <DorpsGek> petern: Aali, AllenJB, Ammler, andy`, ArmEagle, Arthemax, bandi_zz, Belugas, Bergee, blathijs, bleepy, Born_Acorn, canidae, ccfreak2k, Celestar, CIA-1, const86, DaleStan, DASPRiD, davis-, De_Ghosty, dfox, dihedral, doc, DorpsGek, Dr_Jekyll, Eddi|zuHause, el_en, el_en_dash, elmex, Entane, eQualizer, FauxFaux, fjb, FloSoft, Forked, Gekz, genclay, George, GoneWacko, goodger, guru3, HansAffe, HerzogDeXtEr, izhirahider, (2 more messages) 13:06:03 <Zr40> if someone keeps doing that, he'll be kicked I presume :) 13:06:09 <Zahl> -.- 13:06:09 <petern> @nicks 13:06:09 <DorpsGek> petern: Aali, AllenJB, Ammler, andy`, ArmEagle, Arthemax, bandi_zz, Belugas, Bergee, blathijs, bleepy, Born_Acorn, canidae, ccfreak2k, Celestar, CIA-1, const86, DaleStan, DASPRiD, davis-, De_Ghosty, dfox, dihedral, doc, DorpsGek, Dr_Jekyll, Eddi|zuHause, el_en, el_en_dash, elmex, Entane, eQualizer, FauxFaux, fjb, FloSoft, Forked, Gekz, genclay, George, GoneWacko, goodger, guru3, HansAffe, HerzogDeXtEr, izhirahider, (2 more messages) 13:06:10 <petern> @nicks 13:06:10 <thingwath> it's very dynamic, after an hour or so there will be no lines (which is why don't like it, I can remember what happened last hour) 13:06:11 <DorpsGek> petern: Aali, AllenJB, Ammler, andy`, ArmEagle, Arthemax, bandi_zz, Belugas, Bergee, blathijs, bleepy, Born_Acorn, canidae, ccfreak2k, Celestar, CIA-1, const86, DaleStan, DASPRiD, davis-, De_Ghosty, dfox, dihedral, doc, DorpsGek, Dr_Jekyll, Eddi|zuHause, el_en, el_en_dash, elmex, Entane, eQualizer, FauxFaux, fjb, FloSoft, Forked, Gekz, genclay, George, GoneWacko, goodger, guru3, HansAffe, HerzogDeXtEr, izhirahider, (2 more messages) 13:06:12 <Forked> oy 13:06:15 <Zahl> there we go 13:06:18 <Forked> petern: you only get for "petern:" ? 13:06:20 <petern> HEY THAT'S A USEFUL COMMAND GUYS 13:06:26 <Rubidium> @more ? 13:06:26 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Error: I haven't seen ?. 13:06:28 <blathijs> Why does that feature even exist? 13:06:32 <petern> @more 13:06:32 <DorpsGek> petern: joepie91, jpm, lobster, Mark, Mark_, michi_cc, mikegrb, mikl, Mortal, Mortomes, Mucht, murr4y, neli, nfc, Noldo, orudge, Osai, patchie, petern, Phoenix_the_II, planetmaker, Priski, Prof_Frink, Progman, Quaver, Rexxie, Ridayah, Rubidium, RvGaTe, Sacro, sigmund, Sionide, SmatZ, smeding, SmoovTruck, snappy, snorre, SpComb, Splex, sunkan, svip, Tefad, TheMask96, thingwath, TinoDidriksen, tkjacobsen, tneo, tokai, (1 more message) 13:06:34 <petern> @more 13:06:34 <DorpsGek> petern: tosse, ttdopen, valhallasw, Vikthor, welshdragon, welterde, wgrant, wolfryu, worldemar, xahodo, Xaroth, xerxesdaphat, XeryusTC, Zahl, Zealotus, Zorn|, Zr40, and |Japa| 13:06:38 <petern> OH HEY 13:06:39 <Zr40> oh, dorpsgek will be in the centre now! :) 13:06:46 <dihedral> nicely played petern 13:06:58 <TinoDidriksen> ...why would you make such a thing... 13:06:59 <Mortal> why hello there 13:07:12 <petern> stupid bot 13:07:20 <Dr_Jekyll> yes, now we are all awake... 13:07:21 <mikl> hmmm? 13:07:26 <petern> lol 13:07:26 <mikl> quite so. 13:07:26 <Mortal> ...yes petern, what a silly bot 13:07:30 <SpComb> someone's playing with piespy again 13:07:33 *** AllenJB [~ajb42@server2.alteredperspective.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 13:07:34 <Forked> mikl: I'm including you in the cloud. 13:07:43 <petern> a lurker left! 13:07:50 <Dr_Jekyll> but i got an easy way to avoid highlights 13:07:53 <SpComb> hey, you should do that more often 13:07:55 *** Dr_Jekyll is now known as comanche3 13:07:59 <comanche3> ;) 13:08:05 <petern> comanche3: avoid, eh? 13:08:09 <mikl> Forked: yay :) 13:08:11 <Mortal> A lurker appears! 13:08:17 <Zahl> no, you are not going to prove him wrong now :P 13:08:27 <petern> i'm not? 13:08:29 <comanche3> stealth mode: on 13:08:29 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:08:30 <Forked> well I'm gonna stop caring about this and return to work :\ it was ..fun, I guess 13:08:43 * Zahl sees another highlight-wave coming 13:08:45 <petern> @openttd bugs 13:08:45 <DorpsGek> petern: Temporary Offline 13:08:48 <petern> see 13:08:55 <petern> the only useful thing it does it doesn't do any more... 13:09:08 <Zahl> lol 13:09:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:09:54 <petern> Zr40, i hope you liked my compromise 13:10:10 <Zr40> the setting? 13:10:14 <petern> yeah 13:10:18 <mikl> funny that petern's best friend is the bot :) 13:10:28 <Zr40> yes, that's fine 13:10:41 <petern> no one else wanted to be my friend 13:10:54 <Zahl> what about your hand? :P 13:11:03 <petern> i need that to type 13:11:06 <Rubidium> petern: yes 13:11:09 <Rubidium> petern: they 13:11:12 <Rubidium> petern: would 13:11:14 <Rubidium> petern: but 13:11:16 <Rubidium> petern: it 13:11:18 <Rubidium> petern: would 13:11:20 <Rubidium> petern: be 13:11:23 <Rubidium> petern: seen 13:11:26 <Rubidium> petern: as 13:11:28 <Rubidium> petern: spamming 13:11:45 <Zr40> Rubidium, it also connects people from context 13:12:00 <Zr40> so if we talk together often, it will link us even if I don't prefix my messages with Rubidium 13:12:29 <petern> Zr40: how often does it update? seems to be... uh... very often 13:12:37 <Zahl> i tried to add a new heuristic to it 13:12:38 <petern> Belugas! newmusic! 13:12:43 <Zr40> apparently on every line 13:12:45 <Zahl> that accounts time between messages 13:12:46 <petern> yay, he's linked :D 13:13:00 <petern> @seen bjarni 13:13:00 <DorpsGek> petern: bjarni was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 13:13:03 <mikl> hmm, who runs that bot? 13:13:06 <Zahl> me 13:13:08 <Rubidium> and Celestar got hidden behind the title 13:13:09 <mikl> oh 13:13:23 <Zr40> not anymore :) 13:13:26 <petern> that's cos he's busy coding cargodest 13:13:38 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:38 <mikl> Celestar hasn't chatted a lot since this started tracking, apparently 13:13:46 <Zahl> and if you would've asked "who ruins that bot?" it would have been DorpsGek.. or petern :-D 13:14:03 <Zr40> I don't disagree with him 13:14:08 <mikl> I shoud probably code instead of chat, too :) 13:14:16 <Zr40> this kind of bot seems to invite highlight spam 13:14:32 <petern> we'll get over it 13:14:46 <Zahl> hopefully in an hour people are done with that ^^ 13:14:53 <Rubidium> can we have imaginary friend like HansAffe ? 13:14:53 <mikl> yeah, probably 13:15:06 <petern> HansAffe, will you marry me? 13:15:10 <Zr40> you can have as many imaginary friends as you'd like 13:15:23 <mikl> my interest in that sort of thing tends to be very short-lived 13:15:24 <petern> HansAffe, do you exclude yourself? 13:15:36 <mikl> not that it's not interesting, but it gets old 13:15:40 <Zr40> either that, or it only includes those who actually say something 13:15:44 <mikl> I suppose it's that way with most people 13:16:02 <petern> yeah, i'm bored of mikl :D 13:16:03 <Rubidium> or it isn't updating the image anymore ;) 13:16:11 <Zahl> yeah, and when people are done playing around it might actually draw something that resembles actual structures in this chan :) 13:16:18 <mikl> awww :'/ 13:16:26 <petern> joking 13:16:39 <Zahl> we all like mikl 13:18:45 <Zr40> so, what's this cargodest you're talking about? 13:18:54 <Rubidium> ancient 13:19:03 <glx> outdated 13:19:11 * dihedral hugs petern, Rubidium, glx, and TrueBrain 13:19:14 <dihedral> :-P 13:19:14 <glx> (well in need for an update) 13:19:46 * Rubidium slaps dihedral 13:19:52 <dihedral> fine! 13:19:54 <dihedral> be like that 13:19:57 <petern> hugs with beer? 13:20:07 <Rubidium> would that strengthen the relationship or not? 13:20:08 <dihedral> hugs with slaps? 13:20:13 <dihedral> hihi 13:20:19 <dihedral> Rubidium, it'll be a dotted line :-D 13:20:25 <Zr40> Rubidium, it would for some people! 13:20:31 <dihedral> if you slap someone more often, a thick dotted line 13:20:33 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 13:20:47 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:55 <Yexo> hello 13:20:59 <Zr40> hi 13:21:10 <Zahl> hi Yexo 13:21:16 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:21:24 * dihedral tries to move Yexo more into the center of the map 13:21:41 <Rubidium> dihedral: don't tease Yexo... he has work to do 13:21:51 <Yexo> ohoh, what kindof work? 13:22:06 <dihedral> i want work to do too 13:22:17 <Rubidium> Yexo: breathing? 13:22:18 <dihedral> but i am off sick, and petern has not given me any patch jobs yet 13:22:19 <dihedral> :-D 13:22:27 <Rubidium> dihedral: go fix some memory leaks in Squirrel 13:22:27 <dihedral> Yexo, http://cod.spieleplanet.eu/images/openttd.png 13:22:45 <petern> oh did have you give you one? 13:22:47 <dihedral> Rubidium, perhaps something i am actually gonna have a chance of succeeding with? 13:23:17 <petern> how about a non-programming task? 13:23:26 <Zahl> dihedral: count to 10 while your eyes are closed 13:23:27 <dihedral> ... 13:23:33 <dihedral> petern, which would be? 13:23:33 <Zr40> play openttd? 13:23:40 <petern> come up with a decent solution for rail/road types and tunnels 13:23:43 <Rubidium> petern: like updating the wiki (settings section)? 13:23:47 <Zahl> invent a new heuristic for the bot 13:24:00 <Zr40> Zahl, crystal sphere? 13:24:20 <Zahl> wut? 13:24:29 <Zr40> it's the ultimate heuristic! 13:24:36 <Zr40> the bot won't even have to be in the channel then! 13:24:51 <Zahl> yay... do it! 13:25:05 <Rubidium> why bother with the heuristics? We already know what the answer is going to be 13:25:06 <Zr40> no way, I'm not touching Java! 13:25:22 <Zahl> well i did, and i sweared a lot 13:25:24 <Zahl> in the end, it worked 13:25:58 <planetmaker> dihedral: or like "updating" custom bridgheads :P 13:26:16 <dihedral> Belugas does not like all that much help :-P 13:26:31 <petern> rewrite custom bridgeheads 13:26:39 <dihedral> yeah right 13:26:47 <petern> revert 'magic' bridges and apply my old custom bridgeheads back :D 13:26:51 <petern> back? *patch* 13:27:00 <planetmaker> that's why "updating" in quotation marks :) 13:27:02 <Zahl> hey... i didn't play ottd in like 2 years, so whats new? :-D 13:27:05 <dihedral> make an 'undo knobb' ey? 13:27:11 <petern> lol yeah 13:27:22 <petern> anyone who suggests undo is a knob? 13:27:32 <dihedral> Zahl, svn log? 13:27:38 <dihedral> petern, hehe 13:27:41 <Zahl> dihedral: should be quite a lot to read :-D 13:27:51 <Zr40> alternatively, the release log 13:27:55 <Zahl> hm yeah 13:28:18 <dihedral> svn log | grep -i feature 13:28:49 <Zahl> well the two most important things to me are pbs and this drag-signals-and-they-are-build-all-along-the-track stuff 13:28:56 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:28:57 <Zahl> which never made it into trunk back then :-D 13:30:09 <dihedral> there are many more interesting things 13:30:15 <Zahl> noai in trunk... uuhh :) 13:31:11 <SmatZ> dihedral: nice :) I guess now I will be in that network too, connected to you :) 13:31:18 <petern> isn't drag signals in 0.6? 13:31:26 <dihedral> SmatZ, ONLY to me :-D 13:31:47 <dihedral> lets all give SmatZ a welcoming hug 13:31:58 <davis-> boobhugs 13:32:25 <SmatZ> :-) 13:32:25 <dihedral> then perhaps you should stay out of it :-P 13:32:35 <SmatZ> no problem, I am not very friendly person :-P 13:33:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15314 /trunk/src/fontcache.cpp: (log message trimmed) 13:33:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix/hackaround [FS#2590]: fonts have a feature where they can have localised 13:33:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: names. Windows thinks it's a feature to use the name matching the system's 13:33:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: locale, Windows doesn't provide an API to get the font name given another locale 13:33:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: and freetype uses the English locale to resolve the name when opening the 13:33:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: font... This results in fonts that will can't be found and warnings that the 13:33:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: fallback font can't be loaded. Work around this by 'manually' getting the 13:33:55 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:06 <planetmaker> petern: it's there as long as I'm (back) into (O)TTD - so at least since mid/late 2007 13:34:21 * planetmaker hugs SmatZ a welcome :) 13:34:29 <Rubidium> late 2007 < 0.6 13:34:30 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :) 13:34:37 * fjb hugs nobody. 13:34:48 <planetmaker> @seen nobody 13:34:48 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: I have not seen nobody. 13:35:01 <SmatZ> hmm DorpsGek has very bad memory 13:35:05 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has joined #openttd 13:35:08 * fjb hugs DorpsGek. 13:35:20 <Rubidium> SmatZ: it's noone or somebody 13:35:29 <SmatZ> ah ok :) 13:35:33 <fjb> Who hugs Sacro? 13:35:49 <fjb> Stupid bot. :-) 13:36:05 <petern> hackaround :D 13:36:11 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 13:36:13 <glx> stupid MS :) 13:36:31 <glx> luckily openfont format is well defined 13:36:48 * fjb hugs Ammler. 13:37:34 * fjb think about a script to hug everybody in the channel. 13:37:38 <Gekz> dont 13:37:40 <Gekz> I'll kill you 13:37:50 <fjb> :-P 13:37:50 * dihedral is surprised CIA-1 did not make it into the graph with that commit log 13:38:04 <planetmaker> dihedral: it talked to itself :P 13:38:07 * fjb hugs CIA-1. 13:38:19 * glx kicks CIA-1 13:38:19 <CIA-1> ow 13:38:25 <fjb> CIA-1: How are you tody? 13:38:46 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 13:38:55 <fjb> CIA-1: How are you today? 13:39:02 <Zahl> hehehe 13:39:40 <fjb> CIA-1 doesn't make it into the graph. :-( 13:40:02 <dihedral> Celestar, for cargodest - Aali has synced it to trunk iirc 13:40:02 <Zahl> bots hate each other 13:40:04 * fjb gives Gekz a beer. 13:40:15 <Gekz> die 13:40:31 <fjb> I didn't hug you. 13:40:34 <glx> dihedral: yes but I guess Celestar wants to be sure it's not broken :) 13:40:41 <dihedral> ah 13:40:53 <planetmaker> :P A reasonable assumption, I guess :) 13:41:05 <dihedral> i just thought i'd let him know that it exists in case he did not pick up on that yet :-P 13:41:05 <planetmaker> But he could give it a try before he starts to sync the whole mess :) 13:41:17 <glx> there are many tricky parts in this sync due to OrderList addition 13:41:50 <planetmaker> certainly, but Aali usually does things not too badly :) 13:42:54 <dihedral> "not too" 13:42:57 <dihedral> :-P 13:42:59 <glx> still the sync needs to be done the "right way" to keep logs 13:43:08 <dihedral> glx, true 13:44:10 <planetmaker> har har. I'm from the North. I tend to do rather understatement, dihedral :) 13:44:29 <petern> just rewrite it :D 13:44:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15315 /trunk/src/fontcache.cpp: -Fix (r15314): make gcc happy (for once) 13:46:13 <dihedral> Zahl, or Zr40 or whoever makes the map, can you up the res a bit - it's getting too cosy for my taste :-D 13:46:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15316 /trunk/src/ (script/squirrel_helper.hpp string.cpp string_func.h): -Fix [NoAI]: ignore unprintable chars when returning a string to squirrel 13:47:01 <planetmaker> dihedral: just be silent and you'll fall back to the cold, dark outskirts of that map :P 13:47:32 <Zahl> dihedral: i think this is still pretty empty :-D 13:47:46 <Zahl> the reactos map looks worse 13:48:13 <dihedral> reactos is gay anyway :-P 13:48:24 <Zahl> nooooo 13:48:36 <dihedral> anything widowsish is 13:49:01 <|Japa|> is there a GCF that adjusts track prices for large, spaced out maps? 13:49:09 <planetmaker> yeah. Then we define gay the way people did 150 years ago and all can be happy :) 13:50:08 <dihedral> a GCF? 13:50:12 <Aali> glx: the "right way" as in, use hg merge, don't touch more lines than is necessary, etc? 13:50:46 <glx> yes but he needs an access to your hg repo if he wants to keep the logs :) 13:50:51 <planetmaker> Aali: I guess the problem is to define "necessary" in a proper way :) 13:51:07 <|Japa|> when the average distance between anything is really long, track costs start becoming an issue 13:51:29 <planetmaker> |Japa|: "cost an issue" and "openttd"? 13:51:39 <|Japa|> :P 13:51:44 <glx> money incomes are insane anyway 13:51:47 <dihedral> i still dont get GCF and OpenTTD together 13:51:54 <Aali> glx: surely a bundle will do it? 13:51:59 <|Japa|> X( 13:52:04 <|Japa|> grf 13:52:09 <|Japa|> sorry 13:52:15 <planetmaker> dihedral: great, cool and fun :P 13:52:21 <Aali> anyway, I've sent him a PM on the forums already :) 13:52:25 <glx> Aali: hg serve is the easier way (to use hg pull on it) 13:52:32 *** frederyk [~frank@brln-4dba4642.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:52:59 <|Japa|> money becomes insane later, but starting out when the towns are all great distances from each other is hard 13:53:03 <Aali> glx: you can pull from bundles too, IIRC 13:53:28 * fjb should hug petern to not fall out of the graph and Belugas too. 13:53:39 <dihedral> there is a base cost modifyer 13:53:45 <glx> anyway would be better to talk directly to Celestar :) 13:53:51 <dihedral> however, i am not sure you can use that grf to 'lower' the costs 13:54:07 <planetmaker> |Japa|: well. Certainly it depends upon your starting date. But unless I start far before 1930, I can have, given a bit of load have a profit enough after <10 years 13:54:33 <|Japa|> k 13:54:55 <dihedral> and learn about money makers :-D 13:55:29 *** frederyk [~frank@brln-4dba4642.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [] 13:55:33 <planetmaker> |Japa|: if you can, build a long-distance air route to generate some money. Pretty easy money. If that cash flows, go for what you really want. 13:55:33 <|Japa|> main reason I''m asking is cus I'm making a middle earh scenario, and the towns are quite far apart 13:55:45 <planetmaker> which is best for an air route :) 13:56:26 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:31 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:57:24 <|Japa|> Air Mordor: you may or may not get fed to the orcs 13:57:47 <planetmaker> sounds like a cool company name 14:00:02 <|Japa|> I just have to decide weather the industries are realistic, or random 14:01:24 <planetmaker> make your own industry grf. 14:01:30 <planetmaker> :P 14:02:11 <planetmaker> army preparation plant: clay -> orks 14:02:26 <|Japa|> :D 14:03:10 <|Japa|> right now I have Darad Dur, hte dark lighthouse 14:03:16 *** ldf [~loupdefer@93.1.124.49] has joined #openttd 14:03:36 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@circle.a-eskwadraat.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:10 <|Japa|> and isenguard, the radio antenna 14:06:39 *** ldf [~loupdefer@93.1.124.49] has quit [] 14:07:41 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:48 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:50 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:07 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:22:06 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9F2DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:18 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82B7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:55 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80E75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:31:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:39:08 <dihedral> hello tokai 14:39:14 * dihedral has a link to tokai 14:42:27 <Belugas> hello boyz and men 14:42:47 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:43:39 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:44:01 <planetmaker> hello Belugas :) 14:44:43 *** prakti [~myself@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:44:47 <dihedral> hehe 14:46:54 <Sacro> evening miss Belugas 14:47:52 <dihedral> dont pay attention to him Belugas, he's not even on the map :-D 14:48:08 <dihedral> oh - he's only on the 'outskirts' :-P 14:48:17 <Belugas> well... so am i.. or not the same map, actually... 14:48:48 <dihedral> http://cod.spieleplanet.eu/images/openttd.png 14:49:35 <Sacro> heh 14:49:42 <Sacro> i did piespy for about a year in here 14:49:48 <Sacro> i wonder where the images went... 14:51:06 <Belugas> [08:27] <dihedral> Belugas does not like all that much help :-P <-- what was that supposed to mean? I'm really failing to understnad 14:51:44 <dihedral> was more of an 'excuse' as to why i could not help on custom bridge heads 14:51:48 <dihedral> :-P 14:53:44 <planetmaker> bad dihedral , bad dihedral ... excuses, excuses :P 14:53:52 <planetmaker> don't you know us? 14:53:55 <dihedral> shush :-P 14:53:57 <planetmaker> we want MOOOOR :P 14:54:00 <planetmaker> E 14:54:02 <planetmaker> :P 14:54:05 <dihedral> nono - YOU want more 14:54:11 <planetmaker> hehe :) 14:54:15 <dihedral> great - you got me shot! 14:54:20 * dihedral is playing css 14:54:23 <planetmaker> pluralis majistatis :P 14:54:45 <Belugas> I Shot the Sheriff.. 14:54:54 <planetmaker> lool. Happy dying then :P 14:55:08 * planetmaker shoots student's grades... 14:59:01 <Rubidium> bad Belugas ;) 15:01:23 <petern> BUT I DID NOT SHOOT THE DEPUTY 15:02:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15317 /trunk/src/fontcache.cpp: -Fix: support Windows fonts with non-ASCII characters in their file name. Windows doesn't come with them by default, but one can easily install a font with non-ASCII name. 15:02:40 *** wolfryu is now known as Wolfensteijn 15:02:48 <Sacro> Rubidium: can I? sweet 15:03:06 * Sacro installs Cömic Sañs 15:03:11 * Rubidium hasn't seen news of a deputy being short in Belugas' home town 15:03:38 <Rubidium> s/short/shot/ 15:03:49 <Sacro> Rubidium: but they are quite happy with their village idiot 15:10:46 <petern> how does one overload ~ ? 15:12:20 <petern> ah, compl 15:12:26 <petern> ~ is impossible to search... 15:14:20 <Phoenix_the_II> petern 15:14:21 <Phoenix_the_II> petern 15:14:21 <Phoenix_the_II> petern 15:14:22 <Phoenix_the_II> petern 15:14:26 <Phoenix_the_II> zomg 15:14:27 <Phoenix_the_II> petern 15:14:28 <Phoenix_the_II> bleep 15:14:35 <dihedral> bitch 15:15:51 <welshdragon> kick the spammer 15:15:59 <welshdragon> KICK HIIIIIIM! 15:16:45 <dihedral> dihedral HA 15:16:49 <Phoenix_the_II> :o 15:16:54 <Phoenix_the_II> right :) 15:16:57 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9F2DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21:50 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-140-66-59.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:22:15 <petern> oh yeah 15:22:17 <petern> @names 15:22:23 <petern> or was it 15:22:24 <petern> @nicks 15:22:24 <DorpsGek> petern: Aali, Ammler, andy`, ArmEagle, Arthemax, bandi_zz, Belugas, Bergee, blathijs, bleepy, Born_Acorn, canidae, ccfreak2k, Celestar, CIA-1, comanche3, const86, DaleStan, DASPRiD, davis-, De_Ghosty, DephNet[Paul], dfox, dihedral, divo, doc, DorpsGek, ecke, Eddi|zuHause, el_en, el_en_dash, elmex, Entane, eQualizer, FauxFaux, fjb, FloSoft, Forked, Gekz, genclay, George, glx, GoneWacko, goodger, guru3, HansAffe, helb, (2 more messages) 15:22:26 <petern> @more 15:22:26 <DorpsGek> petern: HerzogDeXtEr, izhirahider, joepie91, jpm, lobster, Mark, Mark_, michi_cc, mikegrb, mikl, Mortal, Mucht, murr4y, neli, Noldo, NukeBuster, orudge, Osai, patchie, petern, Phoenix_the_II, planetmaker, prakti, Priski, Prof_Frink, Progman, Quaver, Rexxie, Ridayah, Rubidium, RvGaTe, Sacro, sigmund, Sionide, SmatZ, smeding, SmoovTruck, snappy, snorre, SpComb, Splex, stillunknown, sunkan, svip, Tefad, TheMask96, (1 more message) 15:22:27 <petern> @more 15:22:27 <DorpsGek> petern: thingwath, TinoDidriksen, TinoM, tkjacobsen, tneo, tokai, tosse, ttdopen, valhallasw, Vikthor, welshdragon, welterde, wgrant, Wolfensteijn, worldemar, xahodo, Xaroth, xerxesdaphat, XeryusTC, Yexo, Zahl, Zealotus, Zorn|, Zr40, and |Japa| 15:22:29 <petern> yeah! 15:22:31 <petern> i love that feature 15:22:36 <planetmaker> :P 15:22:37 <TinoDidriksen> ...I will end you. 15:22:44 <ecke> what? 15:22:51 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:22:52 * planetmaker gives petern an old trout 15:22:55 <mikl> again 15:23:00 * mikl slaps petern around a bit with a large petern. 15:23:04 <petern> woo, more lurkers leaving 15:23:06 <Mortal> sorry, added DorpsGek to ignore highlight list 15:23:07 <canidae> there better be nekkid chicks & chocolate in here for all this hilighting :s 15:23:16 <Eddi|zuHause> hey, i feel so important :p 15:23:29 <Rubidium> petern: type operator~(type) ? 15:23:33 <eQualizer> :e 15:23:36 <ecke> .. hmm .. one question... is there some stable release of openttd with infrastructure sharing? 15:23:43 <Eddi|zuHause> four highlights during my absence 15:23:51 <Eddi|zuHause> ecke: no. 15:24:24 <ecke> Eddi|zuHause and some near to stable... i mean ... if i will play with friends no crash coming 15:24:56 <ecke> i remember... we played 12 hours... and after that crash... 15:25:03 <ecke> i dont like that 15:25:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ecke: there are certain patch packs floating around, but they are usually not nearly as stable as you'd like them to be, especially in multiplayer 15:25:20 <ecke> :/ 15:25:30 <Eddi|zuHause> ecke: best if you just compile that single patch 15:25:34 <planetmaker> yeah. 15:25:36 <ecke> but multiplayer without IS is not multiplayer :/ 15:25:39 <planetmaker> or none at all :) 15:26:09 <ecke> compile? ... huh ... i have never did that 15:26:09 <planetmaker> but well. There was just a new version posted in tt-forums 15:26:30 <planetmaker> ecke: it's not terribly difficult - once you have setup things. 15:26:33 <ecke> one time... when i compiled netcat... 15:26:37 <planetmaker> That's imo the most difficult thing 15:27:02 <planetmaker> "things" = compiler, subversion client and stuff 15:27:29 <ecke> is it like: mingw32-make .... ? 15:27:44 <planetmaker> probably. Dunno for windows 15:27:46 <ecke> i have mingw, platform sdk, visula studion express 15:27:54 <ecke> hm 15:27:57 <planetmaker> you should be fine then, I guesss 15:28:17 <ecke> and on linux? ... i have debian on server... only console 15:28:36 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28:48 <ecke> .... simple question... is there any guide how to? 15:28:51 <planetmaker> you need SDL libraries. maybe subversion 15:28:53 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:28:58 <planetmaker> yes. tt-forums. There's a sticky on it 15:29:05 <ecke> ok i ll see 15:29:06 <planetmaker> and of course the ottd wiki 15:29:13 <Rubidium> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Coding_Tools 15:29:15 <planetmaker> probably better / more compact 15:29:37 <ecke> Rubidium ... nice 15:30:09 <Rubidium> for a network server you don't need libsdl or timidity 15:30:22 <Rubidium> and neither libpng 15:30:24 <ecke> planetmaker this link is ok? ... i really dont like browsing and finding through 10000000 posts in forum 15:30:47 <ecke> Rubidium ^^ 15:31:15 <ecke> ok ... i ll try these on wiki.... 15:31:17 <planetmaker> surely it lists everything you need to compile openttd 15:31:35 <ecke> planetmaker ... fine 15:31:49 <ecke> now only find newest IS patch 15:32:01 <planetmaker> tt-forums... 15:32:21 <ecke> yes... 15:33:20 <planetmaker> search for infrastructure 15:33:35 <ecke> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=37455 15:34:37 <planetmaker> yup 15:37:48 <ecke> planetmaker ... so you most steable what can be there... is use stable release sources a add IS newest patch 15:39:01 <planetmaker> ecke: no, you should use the source of the nightly which maches the revision given in the posting where you got the patch file. 15:39:32 <planetmaker> otherwise it surely won't work. 0.6.3 is oooold wrt to source. More than half a year. 15:39:59 <ecke> r13031_infrastructure_sharing_v0.3.patch 15:40:06 <planetmaker> many things changed in comparison to the stable version. 15:40:07 <ecke> sou nightly r13031 15:40:09 <planetmaker> yeah. 15:40:14 <ecke> ok 15:40:37 <Rubidium> 13031 is quite ancient too 15:40:50 <planetmaker> eh... 15:41:02 <planetmaker> ecke: did you get the latest patch file? 15:41:19 <planetmaker> I mean... there are many posted in other postings in that thread. Not from the first one. 15:41:26 <planetmaker> Last one submitted by Aali today. 15:41:30 <planetmaker> Rubidium: thx 15:41:39 <planetmaker> I only saw ...3... - which is ok ;) 15:41:47 <Rubidium> ~9 months (pre 0.6.1) 15:42:10 <ecke> .... Here's a (largely untested) version of the old patch that applies to r15313, enjoy 15:42:43 <ecke> i prefer stable then newest 15:43:06 <Rubidium> then use 0.6.3 without IS ;) 15:43:16 <ecke> Rubidium lol 15:43:28 <Rubidium> IS is likely far from stable 15:43:55 <planetmaker> ecke: nevertheless, I'd advocate to use that. 15:44:07 <Rubidium> given the fact that many users don't complain about crashes with patches 15:44:07 <planetmaker> stable... maybe. 15:44:30 <Rubidium> so one can't say anything about the the stability of ANY of the versions of the patch 15:44:34 <planetmaker> for good reason ;) as it's wildly discouraged 15:44:48 <Belugas> [10:02] <@petern> BUT I DID NOT SHOOT THE DEPUTY <-- a cookie for petern :D 15:45:25 <planetmaker> but then the early updates of that patch which I posted at times of wwottdgd/2 were probably ok, too. But I'd try the update nevertheless. 15:45:46 <ecke> so :D 15:46:03 <ecke> r15313 patch and NB r15313 15:46:19 <ecke> the best option for ottd with IS? 15:46:33 <planetmaker> dunno. But I'd give it a shot. 15:46:33 <ecke> best mean most stable 15:46:45 <ecke> i ll try 15:46:55 <petern> most stable IS = not 15:46:56 *** ctibor [~ctibor@12-23-80-78.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 15:46:57 <planetmaker> report crashes where you found the patch :) 15:51:20 <ecke> :) 15:53:08 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:54:40 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9F2DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:27 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> plasma.oftc.net quits: murr4y 16:00:29 *** Netsplit over, joins: murr4y 16:06:38 <dihedral> <Rubidium> IS is likely far from stable <- perhaps if some servers were running it would draw more attention to it, and the issues could be fixed and it would be well tested 16:06:57 <dihedral> but for some reason i am not entirely sure if i can assume you are really interested in IS :-P 16:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar definitely is ;) 16:07:55 <dihedral> yes, that is for sure 16:08:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:58 <planetmaker> Well. It's for MP a very nice feature. For SP it surely isn't worth a lot 16:09:00 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:09:38 <dihedral> planetmaker, unless you get to write an ai :-P 16:09:52 <dihedral> one that builds all the tracks, and lets you use them 16:09:53 <dihedral> :-P 16:10:00 <dihedral> and give you back all the money :-D 16:10:05 <planetmaker> well... :P Force the AI to share out tracks ;) 16:10:23 <dihedral> hihi 16:11:09 <dihedral> gnah - i had 2 css updates yesterday, anotherone right now 16:11:11 <dihedral> wtf 16:11:27 <glx> dihedral: AI API won't allow that 16:11:47 <planetmaker> glx: what? You mean running trains on AI tracks? 16:12:09 <planetmaker> what would stop me doing it, if I force cooperation and find a hook to their tracks? 16:12:30 <planetmaker> (besides that it'd be a scenario which is... not what IS is meant to be) 16:12:43 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:44 <dihedral> glx: obviously the API could be extended for IS :-P 16:12:47 <glx> if IS is done correctly, the owner must allow others to run on theirs tracks 16:12:48 <dihedral> if it needed to be 16:12:57 <dihedral> glx: yes 16:13:46 <dihedral> + usage conditions apply 16:13:46 <planetmaker> glx: Still the owner needs the power to decide where others hook to his network. 16:14:44 <dihedral> planetmaker, not just 'connections between rails', but really a selection meny where you can allow / deny companies from using your tracks 16:14:46 <planetmaker> so, probably, you need a full n_company x n_company matrix of at least boolean, better int (=price) which allows access to networks. 16:15:11 * Swallow is doing some work on IS 16:15:19 * planetmaker swallows ;) 16:15:30 <petern> and amazons? 16:15:36 <dihedral> planetmaker, yuck :-D 16:15:42 <planetmaker> err... well. 16:15:54 * planetmaker hides 16:16:30 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e180226189.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:16:52 <Swallow> IS code was/is a mess though 16:17:02 <planetmaker> yes 16:17:23 <planetmaker> I still have the idea that it might be a good idea to re-write it by means of hg queues. 16:17:25 <dihedral> ah, great 16:17:53 <Swallow> hg queues is what i'm currently trying 16:18:01 <planetmaker> :) 16:18:04 <Swallow> copying and rewriting as I go along 16:18:11 <planetmaker> he :) 16:20:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5485ECAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:20:29 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:20:32 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-164-125-149.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:21:36 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:58 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051124255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:23:58 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:25:51 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-215.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 16:33:26 *** angelo [~angelo@ppp-94-65-240-222.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 16:34:12 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.98.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:28 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:55 * dihedral puts orudge on the map 16:39:28 * planetmaker wonders what the current status of orudge 's sound replacement project is... 16:40:48 <dihedral> uh 16:40:51 <dihedral> that is a good question 16:41:43 <petern> up the wrong track 16:42:01 <planetmaker> how do you mean? Implementation-wise? 16:42:11 <planetmaker> That'd be sad to hear... :S 16:42:16 <Rubidium> no, the metaphorical track 16:42:23 <planetmaker> :P 16:44:06 <Rubidium> probably the steep one up and the engine doesn't have enough TE/HP 16:44:18 <petern> stufheh 16:44:21 <petern> stufheh? 16:44:22 <petern> hmm 16:44:32 <petern> sound replacement == changing sample.cat 16:45:04 <petern> not implementing a new audio system that lets you play ogg files instead of midi... 16:45:11 <planetmaker> he :) It even works meanwhile without it... so... :) 16:45:16 <petern> which reminds me... 16:45:46 <petern> obg doesn't list sample.cat :/ 16:45:51 <dihedral> what a bjarni line to say petern 16:46:08 <petern> what? 16:46:26 <dihedral> "which reminds me" 16:46:36 <petern> well, i'm not bjarni 16:46:43 <planetmaker> @seen Bjarni 16:46:43 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 16:46:47 <planetmaker> hm... 16:46:50 <Rubidium> petern: sample.cat isn't base graphics, is it? 16:46:56 <petern> no 16:47:12 <planetmaker> base sound :) 16:47:15 <petern> it should've been base data :p 16:47:25 <dihedral> aye 16:47:36 <Rubidium> why should opengfx force you to use a specific sound replacement set? 16:47:38 <dihedral> still can be changed :-P 16:48:21 <planetmaker> Certainly doesn't hurt to have it seperately. 16:48:56 <petern> cos i say so 16:49:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15318 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix [FS#2594](r10288): don't warn about non-primary engines getting old 16:49:39 <Rubidium> all hail peter "the boss" n ;) 16:49:53 <planetmaker> cheers :P 16:51:11 <dihedral> hihi 16:53:02 *** ctibor [~ctibor@12-23-80-78.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:53 *** fjb [~frank@p5485ECAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:56 <petern> sample.tar support could work, i suppose 16:58:39 <petern> although as it goes in data it would might get confusing :o 16:59:05 <dihedral> hihi 16:59:07 <planetmaker> introduce data/sound 16:59:20 <dihedral> and data/graphics? 16:59:26 <planetmaker> no 16:59:40 <dihedral> and what do you do with all the stuff you get from content :-P 16:59:46 <planetmaker> but well. one could :) anyway each dir is looked for. 16:59:56 <planetmaker> content_download/sound ;) 17:00:12 <dihedral> data/content/downloaded/from/bananas/sound/ 17:00:52 <planetmaker> too short and un-descriptive 17:01:08 <planetmaker> d/a/t/a/c/o/... ;) 17:01:44 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-215.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:06 * dihedral still has to wait 40 mins for his css update to complete - gnah 17:02:23 <petern> one problem with sample.cat is lack of metadata... 17:02:34 <petern> hm 17:02:42 <petern> css updates take 40 minutes? 17:05:29 <dihedral> cs:s 17:06:11 <SmatZ> 40 minutes? 17:06:32 <Rubidium> yeah, 300 baud isn't that fast 17:06:54 <planetmaker> :D 17:07:08 <planetmaker> even the ISS has a faster upload :) 17:07:12 <dihedral> 2Mbit line :-S 17:07:51 <fjb> But travelling to the ISS would take longer than 40 minutes. 17:08:21 <dihedral> depends how you want to get there :-P 17:08:29 <planetmaker> a bit... :) depends upon whether you want to dock or hit ;) 17:08:53 <dihedral> flipping docker :-D 17:08:57 <planetmaker> hit is easily done in <~ 20 minutes 17:10:15 <fjb> Did you consider the boarding time or only the flight time? 17:10:38 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:11:26 <planetmaker> a simple rope around the missle will do, if you only want to hit it ;) 17:12:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 17:13:24 <dihedral> just 'poke' him on top 17:14:16 <planetmaker> dihedral: that didn't establish a connection between fjb and me ;) But maybe this :P 17:14:19 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [] 17:15:15 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 17:17:10 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@62.199.84.26] has joined #openttd 17:17:20 <dihedral> dihedral, that'd be one of the connections i would not even be after :-D 17:17:46 <planetmaker> har har. So much for self-love ;) 17:17:56 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:09 <dihedral> no - that is not self-love 17:20:14 <dihedral> that is just pickyness 17:20:47 <planetmaker> strengthening your place in the centre of action? ;) 17:21:03 <dihedral> i dont have to do that 17:21:08 <dihedral> :-P 17:22:01 <dihedral> at least i dont go around using a bot to highlight everyone :-D 17:22:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:22:59 <petern> @nicks 17:22:59 <DorpsGek> petern: Aali, Ammler, Andel, andy`, angelo, ArmEagle, Arthemax, bandi_zz, Belugas, Bergee, blathijs, bleepy, Born_Acorn, canidae, ccfreak2k, Celestar, CIA-1, comanche3, const86, DaleStan, DASPRiD, davis-, De_Ghosty, DephNet[Paul], dfox, dihedral, divo, doc, DorpsGek, Eddi|zuHause, el_en, el_en_dash, elmex, Entane, eQualizer, FauxFaux, fjb, FloSoft, Forked, Fuco, Gekz, genclay, George, glx, GoneWacko, goodger, guru3, (2 more messages) 17:23:03 <petern> @more 17:23:03 <DorpsGek> petern: HansAffe, HerzogDeXtEr, izhirahider, joepie91, jpm, lobster, Mark, Mark_, michi_cc, mikegrb, mikl, Mortal, Mucht, murr4y, neli, Noldo, NukeBuster, orudge, Osai, OwenS, patchie, petern, Phoenix_the_II, planetmaker, prakti, Priski, Prof_Frink, Progman, Purno_, Quaver, Rexxie, Ridayah, Roest, Rubidium, RvGaTe, Sacro, sigmund, Sionide, SmatZ, smeding, SmoovTruck, snappy, snorre, SpComb, Splex, stillunknown, sunkan, (1 more message) 17:23:04 <petern> @more 17:23:04 <DorpsGek> petern: svip, Swallow, Tefad, TheMask96, thingwath, TinoDid, TinoDidriksen, TinoM, tkjacobsen, tneo, tokai, tosse, ttdopen, valhallasw, Vikthor, welshdragon, welterde, wgrant, Wolfensteijn, worldemar, Xaroth, xerxesdaphat, XeryusTC, Yexo, Zahl, Zealotus, Zorn|, Zr40, and |Jeroen| 17:23:09 <petern> Wahey 17:23:12 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:13 <petern> I still love that FEATURE 17:23:13 * davis- gives petern a attention hug 17:23:14 <Fuco> greetings to you sir 17:23:15 <planetmaker> hmpf. 17:23:17 <dihedral> and yet - it still does not have the effect 17:23:40 <mikl> :) 17:23:41 <Vikthor> petern, the highlight spammer 17:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause> /ignore petern 17:23:51 <|Jeroen|> grrr 17:24:01 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: won't help 17:24:04 <dihedral> it makes all the idelers leave, which is good 17:24:11 <dihedral> hihi 17:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: but it feels better ;) 17:24:21 <dihedral> true, Eddi|zuHause you would have to ignore DorpsGek 17:24:23 <Vikthor> dihedral: doesn't seem to work 17:24:38 *** mode/#openttd [+q DorpsGek!*@*] by petern 17:24:38 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: you have to ignore DorpsGek... 17:24:39 <petern> @nicks 17:24:39 <DorpsGek> petern: Aali, Ammler, Andel, andy`, angelo, ArmEagle, Arthemax, bandi_zz, Belugas, Bergee, blathijs, bleepy, Born_Acorn, canidae, ccfreak2k, Celestar, CIA-1, comanche3, const86, DaleStan, DASPRiD, davis-, De_Ghosty, DephNet[Paul], dfox, dihedral, divo, doc, DorpsGek, Eddi|zuHause, el_en, el_en_dash, elmex, Entane, eQualizer, FauxFaux, fjb, FloSoft, Forked, Fuco, Gekz, genclay, George, glx, GoneWacko, goodger, guru3, (2 more messages) 17:24:41 <petern> ho ho 17:24:54 <petern> does not work because bots need to be opped... yar 17:25:01 <dihedral> :-P 17:25:03 *** mode/#openttd [-q DorpsGek!*@*] by petern 17:25:05 <dihedral> well done petern 17:25:09 <goodger> petern: why do you keep doing that? 17:25:15 *** mode/#openttd [-o petern] by DorpsGek 17:25:20 <tneo> what's up with the highlighting? 17:25:20 <mikl> ostensibly, you could just deop the bot ;) 17:25:23 <goodger> it's very annoying 17:25:24 <dihedral> so that you come along and highlight him 17:25:29 <davis-> petern is a attention whore 17:25:30 <davis-> :[ 17:25:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o petern] by ChanServ 17:25:50 <dihedral> he wants to steal my happy-place 17:25:51 <planetmaker> kids and their new toys :) 17:25:59 <dihedral> hihi 17:26:05 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs6.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 17:26:19 <petern> goodger: so that eventually, whoever runs that stupid bot will remove some stupid 'features' 17:26:23 <dihedral> good job FloodServ is not in here petern 17:26:37 <goodger> petern: could you PM me when that happens? thanks 17:26:39 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-2.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [+++ Rebooting Universe, Please Try Again Later +++] 17:26:40 <dihedral> petern, that'd be TrueBrain 17:26:40 <Zahl> no, but SpamServ is 17:26:41 <planetmaker> I think it wouldn't mind. Not sufficient amount of messages 17:26:44 <petern> wahey! 17:26:48 <DASPRiD> stop highlighting me with @nicks... 17:26:53 <dihedral> and that feature is part of the user module, and cannot be 'unloaded' 17:26:55 <petern> stop caring 17:27:00 <dihedral> only deactivated on a channel bases 17:27:22 <mikl> what kind of bot is DorpsGek btw? 17:27:28 <petern> remove it from the user module 17:27:31 <glx> it's in channel plugin 17:27:32 <Rubidium> a stupid one 17:27:32 <planetmaker> petern: the only persons who can abuse it are those with op rights... 17:27:35 <petern> or the channel module 17:27:43 <dihedral> mikl, supybot 17:27:44 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 17:27:53 <petern> planetmaker: great 17:27:57 <mikl> hmmkay 17:27:57 <Zr40> python? just rip the code out :) 17:27:57 <Zahl> ITS THE ALL CAPS HOSTNAME GUY!!! 17:28:06 <planetmaker> so... unless op is given to unreasonable persons it should be pretty save :) 17:28:16 <welshdragon> stop highlighting me 17:28:17 <welshdragon> \ 17:28:22 <dihedral> hihi 17:28:22 <welshdragon> 'tards 17:28:28 <Zahl> +re 17:28:30 <dihedral> the dragon's loose :-D 17:28:31 <mikl> apparently, I've gotten old. Last time i was really into IRC, EggDrop was the new hawtness 17:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> "you can me one time" :p 17:28:46 <dihedral> eggdrop sucks 17:28:54 <mikl> indeed 17:29:03 <mikl> not all that fun to try and extend 17:29:25 <mikl> supybut looks tasty 17:29:25 <petern> any more idlers to weed out? hah 17:29:29 <planetmaker> lool @ Eddi|zuHause ;) 17:29:33 <dihedral> mikl, ap+ is nice :-P 17:30:06 <Rubidium> petern: the HansAffe guy seems to be idling ;) 17:30:13 <Zr40> that's not a guy 17:30:18 <Zahl> its a girl 17:30:46 <dihedral> hehe 17:30:50 <dihedral> where's Maren :-P 17:31:07 <mikl> although like a lot of small open source project, the main web site is missing 17:31:24 <dihedral> mikl, only for like 6 months now 17:31:26 <planetmaker> probably some sociology student is having fun right now. A lot of fun. 17:31:31 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has joined #openttd 17:31:46 <dihedral> s/b/p/ :-D 17:33:05 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:33:25 <planetmaker> see you later guys. Food is calling :) 17:33:27 * planetmaker waves 17:34:02 <Rubidium> that must be horribly fresh or old 17:34:17 <dihedral> hihi 17:34:30 <planetmaker> fresh :P 17:34:43 <mikl> raw and wrigggly? 17:34:44 <petern> hmm, i'm starving now 17:35:09 <planetmaker> fishy ;) 17:35:36 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@77.166.163.108] has joined #openttd 17:35:43 <mikl> oh, well 17:35:47 <mikl> I should work 17:35:49 <dihedral> petern, worms 17:36:05 <mikl> there\is\PHP\work\to\be\done 17:36:11 <dihedral> for SmatZ it'd have to be bugs - he seems to prefer those :-P 17:36:19 <dihedral> mikl, yuck 17:37:09 <petern> did you finish custom bridgeheads yet? 17:37:36 <dihedral> lol 17:37:40 <petern> :( 17:38:13 <dihedral> you really believe i could do that? 17:38:30 * welshdragon roars at dihedral 17:38:30 <mikl> my mind will never be able to figure out why the designers of PHP decided that => and = should mean the same thing, only in different context, and not be interchangeable 17:39:02 <mikl> not to mention the whole namespace debacle 17:39:04 <dihedral> in which context are they the same? 17:39:40 <mikl> dihedral: they both do assignment, one in arrays and one outside arrays 17:39:52 <dihedral> oh that's what you mean 17:39:55 <petern> that's from perl, heh 17:40:34 <mikl> I might be simple minded, but I always manage to mix it up when I'm thinking about functionality instead of syntax ;) 17:40:55 * welshdragon waves at petern 17:40:56 <Progman> => is a syntax special for foreach and array initialisation, it couldn't be done with = as = is the "general" assignment operation 17:41:34 <dihedral> there you have it 17:41:44 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 17:42:01 <dihedral> ab in die ecke :-D 17:42:28 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80E75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:05 <mikl> Progman: if you say so â I never wrote any parsers, so I can hardly judge whether the PHP guys are doing a good job :) 17:44:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8026A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:44:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:44:35 *** maqogino [~maqogino@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 17:46:39 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 17:50:49 *** Mortomes_ [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:37 <Zr40> â <-- what character is that? 17:55:58 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@77.166.163.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:57:02 <Zr40> looks like hydrairc doesn't support utf8... 17:57:15 <Zahl> its a long - 17:57:37 <mikl> en-dash 17:59:36 <welshdragon> i'm seeing Zr40 18:01:24 <RS-SM> anyway 18:01:44 <RS-SM> can you run open TTD on a minimal debian server? 18:03:42 <Rubidium> yes, though you need to compile it yourself (without SDL/png/freetype support) 18:04:54 <SpComb> -- 18:05:16 <RS-SM> cool 18:05:30 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:05:40 <RS-SM> I have a old dell that I want to make a game server, so I could either put XP on it or a *nix* 18:07:21 <Zr40> linix? 18:07:42 <mikl> RS-SM: well, for that purpose, XP would be a huge waste of resources :) 18:07:56 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:14 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:08:31 <RS-SM> yeah 18:09:20 <RS-SM> I don't like ubuntu though, its remote tools seem laggy to me 18:11:25 <mikl> RS-SM: well, I have Ubuntu on my web server 18:11:36 <mikl> but the only remote tool I use is SSH :) 18:11:51 <RS-SM> I tend to do all sorts of things including stream 18:12:00 <RS-SM> since my college internet does not allow me to torrent 18:13:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffb23.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 18:15:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:15:21 <Wolf01> O_o 18:16:56 <RS-SM> hello 18:17:06 <Wolf01> ah-ha! you failed 18:17:25 <Wolf01> the correct answer was o_O 18:17:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-183-149.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:46 <frosch123> °¯O 18:18:54 <dihedral> that's cheating 18:18:57 <dihedral> and you know it :-P 18:19:36 <Brianetta> /-: 18:20:03 <Brianetta> {[°o°]} 18:20:08 <Brianetta> hmm 18:20:18 <Brianetta> if htis IRC network didn't filter out formatting, he'd have a mouth 18:20:48 <Wolf01> I see the underlined o 18:20:51 <frosch123> must be your client, it has a mouth 18:20:51 <Brianetta> Ah 18:20:53 <eQualizer> What do you mean by mouth? Underöined o? 18:20:55 <Brianetta> Perhaps it's my client 18:21:11 <eQualizer> underlined* 18:21:12 <Brianetta> He's either a koala or a cyberman 18:21:25 <Brianetta> I *meant* him to be a koala 18:21:27 <Wolf01> sure it is your client, it printed :-/ inverted too 18:21:28 <eQualizer> I'll v0te 18:21:34 <eQualizer> o0koala 18:22:42 <eQualizer> (I'im lying in a bed, so it's a bit hard to write right when youre head is sideways at the same level as keyboard.) 18:23:20 <Brianetta> Needs practice, but I assure you it gets easy 18:25:13 <worldemar> DorpsGek: bot? 18:28:27 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:29:05 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:12 *** maqogino [~maqogino@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:34 *** comoliju [~comoliju@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 18:35:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.180.223] has joined #openttd 18:37:48 *** comoliju [~comoliju@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:37 *** situk [~situk@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 18:39:01 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:41:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.169.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15319 /trunk/src/lang/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-02-02 18:44:36 18:45:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 3 fixed by khaloofah (3) 18:45:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 1 fixed by habell (1) 18:45:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hebrew - 533 fixed, 426 changed by 19izhar73 (959) 18:45:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 fixed by oklmernok (1) 18:45:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 1 changed by lorenzodv (1) 18:48:20 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48:36 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:55:24 <Belugas> i wonder if 19ishar73 just established an all time high 18:58:05 <Belugas> "I love you, I'm goign to blow up your school" 18:58:11 <Belugas> let's get smoooooooth 19:06:52 *** situk [~situk@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:10 *** suzopub [~suzopub@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:10:21 <frosch123> petern: do you plan to add some "VehicleOverrideManager" that stores an EngineID -> (GrfID, internal_id) mapping in the savegame? Currently loading "compatible" newgrfs that specify one engine more or less screw the hole game. 19:12:14 <petern> pah, they're not compatible 19:12:53 <frosch123> no, but "compatible" 19:13:02 <frosch123> :p 19:13:19 <petern> well, i'm not planning it 19:13:27 <petern> i won't stop someone else though ;p 19:13:31 * petern curses windows 7 19:13:37 <petern> it gets its video timings all wrong :( 19:15:31 *** evandar [~evandar@213.168.176.142] has joined #openttd 19:16:09 <frosch123> [19:58] <Belugas> i wonder if 19ishar73 just established an all time high <- hmm, he changed about 74% of all translated strings of that language, and there are already again 234 pending 19:16:26 * frosch123 wonders whether he will also translate untranslated :p 19:18:40 <Belugas> hope it's all for the best 19:18:53 *** suzopub [~suzopub@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:08 <Belugas> but... like... we would not be sure up until the whole hebrew community will start yelling 19:19:27 *** sykyj [~sykyj@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:19:42 <Rubidium> ~500 changes on ~2000 isn't 74% 19:20:20 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:47 <frosch123> 2000? then your statistics are different from those I can see 19:21:04 <Rubidium> there are ~3300 strings per language 19:21:22 <Rubidium> now ~2000 of them are translated 19:21:51 <Rubidium> he 'fixed' ~500, so it was ~1500 before he started 19:22:04 <Rubidium> he changed 426 of those ~1500 19:22:07 <frosch123> oh, yeah, I mixed "translated" and "not yet translated" :s 19:24:19 *** sykyj [~sykyj@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:40 *** vemifam [~vemifam@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:25:44 *** vemifam [~vemifam@193.43.249.169] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:20 *** nazavibi [~nazavibi@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 19:31:15 *** evandar [~evandar@213.168.176.142] has quit [Quit: Conversation terminated] 19:32:30 *** TinoDid is now known as TinoDidriksen 19:34:45 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has joined #openttd 19:36:40 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:53 *** mikl [~mikl@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:49 <Zahl> ehm... how can i make the game build signals by default and not semaphores? =) 19:53:47 <Wolf01> put 0 as the introduction date for light signals 19:54:27 <Zahl> hmm k, game already running 19:54:44 <Zahl> so i'll have to ctrl+click :) 19:54:45 <Wolf01> you can change it in any moment 19:55:21 <Wolf01> signals already placed are not affected by the change, so you need to change them by hand 19:57:00 <petern> make a grf to replace the semaphores ;) 19:57:04 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 19:59:13 <Zahl> :-D 19:59:33 <Zahl> nah, its a network game so im too lazy, i thought it was an interface setting :> 19:59:48 <petern> it is 20:00:15 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-183-149.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: changing PCs] 20:02:46 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:03:09 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 20:03:37 *** el_en_dash [~lanurm@castor.utu.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:04:11 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-183-149.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:33 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 20:06:17 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [] 20:08:06 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:08:13 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 20:09:07 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:13:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:51 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 20:18:11 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:37 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 20:31:20 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:58 *** Wolle [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0FD49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:25 *** comanche3 [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0E86C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:49 * dihedral points at Celestar and cargodest :-P 20:55:25 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:08 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:59:00 * Belugas wonders what would dihedral be longing for, if Celestar had not done the cargodest the way it is right now... ho... Belugas knows... IS 20:59:04 <Belugas> of course ;) 20:59:29 <Swallow> Can a rail tile ever be owned by OWNER_NONE or OWNER_TOWN? 21:00:00 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:11 <Yexo> Swallow: no, but maybe with the infrastructure sharing patch it can 21:00:59 <frosch123> maybe it is possible in games that are converted from very old savegames 21:01:17 <frosch123> i.e. in the old days level-crossings had only one owner etc... 21:01:22 <frosch123> smatz knows such things :) 21:01:35 <Swallow> that's what I was concerned about... 21:01:53 <Yexo> but if they have, they can't be used (at least not with current code) 21:02:49 * Swallow ponders whether he should abuse IS to make the impossible possible 21:06:04 <dihedral> Belugas, actually i was just wanting to pull Celestar's leg 21:06:06 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-140-66-59.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:06:25 <Belugas> ho... like... Bumps? 21:06:38 <dihedral> define 'bumps' :-P 21:06:50 <Belugas> look in forums 21:06:58 <dihedral> i know :-P 21:07:02 <Belugas> hehehe 21:07:10 <dihedral> that is why i said it 21:08:54 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:09:18 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-140-66-59.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:10:10 <dihedral> Belugas, http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=761886#p761886 :-P 21:11:18 * Yexo wonders why it are always the new users flaming about the behaviour in the forum 21:12:29 * Wolf01 wonders the same thing too 21:13:17 <frosch123> only the ignorant survive 21:13:23 <dihedral> hehe 21:13:34 <Wolf01> so I will survive 21:13:44 <dihedral> perfect 21:14:11 <Wolf01> like the bugs after a nuclear holocaust 21:16:16 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-131-63-210.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:16:30 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:06 <Forked> dihedral: but I'm always right and all I do is whats best for the world. now stop bothering me!111 21:19:10 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-140-66-59.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:03 <dihedral> Forked, hehe 21:22:50 <Belugas> Yexo, maybe because if they did dare looking at the history of the forums, they would not be flaming, but understanding about the history 21:22:56 <Belugas> but no... too much efforts 21:23:51 <Yexo> most likely yeah 21:24:23 <Yexo> the concept "forum != ask-and-get-what-you-demand" seems difficult to grasp for some 21:25:23 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]] 21:27:15 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5F278.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:28:54 <Belugas> well... we've heard the arguments a lot, even in here. "Searching gives way too much results", "i'd rather ask to those who know, easier and faster", "the search is crappy, don't even want to give it try" 21:28:55 <Belugas> blablabl 21:29:28 <Belugas> bottom of it, here are a bunch of spoiled brats who are still receive food from mama's hands :S 21:29:41 <Belugas> -e +ing 21:30:08 <Belugas> even my 5 years old son can pikc himself the stuff he needs or wants :P 21:30:27 <Yexo> I know, it's just that they get anoying from time to time 21:32:40 *** bandi_zz [~user@catv4E5CAA38.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:27 <Belugas> on the other hand, i guess we might be real pain in the ass ourselves... 21:33:40 <Belugas> and i do definitively count myself as one the biggest ones 21:33:54 <Belugas> and dare you all deny that!! 21:34:40 <Belugas> there is that one phrase i've seen once in a while: "it's a game, do you think i'll start working for it?" 21:34:57 <Belugas> that's what makes the difference between people. 21:35:02 <Yexo> I havent' seen that one 21:35:11 <Yexo> but that's exactly the problem most of the time 21:35:14 <Belugas> those who love it enough to improve it, and those who simply want to enjoy it 21:35:21 <Belugas> yes, indeed 21:36:09 <Yexo> but the first group can do a lot more before I find them annoying 21:36:37 <Belugas> true :) 21:37:06 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:37:30 <Belugas> usually, they get irritating by begging to include their work. and VERY irritating when not wanting to hold suggestions or comments or even denial into account 21:37:45 <Belugas> whooohou... i hope i'm not bruising any ego out there!!! 21:38:01 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:15 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28EA3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:17 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:39:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15320 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Increase 'realistic' acceleration 'resolution' by one bit by reducing a division and removing a multiplication: 3/4*2 = 0; 3/2 = 1. And a smidgeon less CPU usage, hah. 21:39:00 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:44 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf is this AI guy trying to say? 21:39:55 <Yexo> he thinks NoAI uses too much cpu 21:41:17 <petern> it probably does 21:41:23 <petern> it's often the price of flexibility 21:41:47 <Yexo> it does indeed, but that guy doesn't even want to try the available options 21:42:26 <petern> indeed indeed 21:45:30 <patchie> is there a graphic's pack out?..or under construction still?.. 21:46:15 <Yexo> there is bananas, openttds content service and also the openttdcoop grf pack 21:46:31 <patchie> where? 21:46:47 <Belugas> grooooooaaaar! 21:46:49 <Yexo> the content service is available in the nigthies 21:47:01 <Yexo> for the openttdcoop grf pack, have a look at openttdcoop.org 21:47:14 <patchie> oki..thanks:) 21:47:41 <frosch123> [22:33] <Belugas> even my 5 years old son can pikc himself the stuff he needs or wants :P <- you are biases, he just picks everything 21:48:17 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 21:49:37 <Belugas> nope. only waht he wants :) 21:49:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-215-153.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:49:45 <Belugas> don't give him veggies ;) 21:49:54 <Belugas> but let see him spotting the chess :D 21:50:01 <Belugas> and GRAB THEM ALL 21:50:12 <Belugas> grrr. 21:50:16 <Belugas> cheese 21:50:20 <Belugas> ot chess 21:51:52 <Belugas> believe me, even that young he goes by this famous line "I know what I like, and I like what I know" 21:52:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r15321 /trunk/src/ (engine_type.h newgrf.cpp table/engines.h): -Codechange: Load road vehicle 'realistic' acceleration properties from NewGRF, and supply defaults as used by TTDPatch. These values are not yet used. 21:53:45 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:56 * frosch123 senses Engine::Get[Display]TE() and Engine::Get[Display]AirDrag() 21:56:18 <dihedral> basching... http://www.tt-forums.net/styles/ott/imageset/icon_post_target.gif 21:56:19 <dihedral> ops 21:56:31 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=761958#p761958 21:56:33 <dihedral> this one :-P 21:56:39 <dihedral> yay - user bashing 21:56:50 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-56-89.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 21:56:53 <dihedral> harsh but fair 21:58:58 <Yexo> Edit: oh - and by the way: it took me time to comment on your BS <- nice end :)j 22:01:40 <dihedral> my personal fav is the (IT'S A BUTTON) :-D 22:03:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:03:09 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03:12 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 22:04:43 * Belugas goes home 22:04:45 <Belugas> bye bye 22:04:48 <NukeBuster> cya 22:04:49 <dihedral> cu Belugas 22:04:52 <dihedral> have a nice evening 22:05:43 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 22:05:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffb23.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:58 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.47] has joined #openttd 22:11:10 *** joepie91 [~s@cadart.demon.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:44 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 22:13:53 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 22:15:28 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 22:17:25 <dihedral> night 22:18:09 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:25 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:24:23 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:00 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@mnch-5d85eec3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 22:25:56 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 22:26:45 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 22:29:36 *** smeding [smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:51 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:24 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs6.vodafone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:35 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:17 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs6.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 22:48:14 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 22:50:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F07B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:06 *** Roest [~schurade@p54B9F2DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:54:33 <Wolf01> 'night 22:54:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:54:41 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-183-149.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:57:28 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs6.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:30 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 22:57:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Yexo * r15322 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Fix (r15175): The AI list window didn't display information about the selected AI if it wasn't visible. 22:59:21 <Eddi|zuHause> err... what? 22:59:37 <Eddi|zuHause> for me that reads "invisible window did not display anything" 23:00:40 <petern> quite 23:01:10 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@141.114.221.19] has joined #openttd 23:01:18 <Yexo> hmm, the "it" was referring to "the selected ai" 23:01:40 <UFO64> eavning al 23:01:41 <UFO64> all* 23:01:47 <Yexo> hello UFO64 23:10:23 *** nazavibi [~nazavibi@193.43.249.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:11:18 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 23:16:28 *** Mark [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:15 <SmatZ> [22:01:48] <Swallow> Can a rail tile ever be owned by OWNER_NONE or OWNER_TOWN? <== no, such tiles are removed (a little effort is done to "fix" them, too) while converting old savegames 23:18:21 <Yexo> SmatZ: a bit late, Swallow is already gone ;) 23:19:06 <SmatZ> ahhh :) 23:20:14 <Roujin> hey ho SmatZ ;) 23:20:23 <SmatZ> hello Roujin :) 23:23:19 *** Mark [~markk@shell.etttretresju.net] has joined #openttd 23:25:48 *** dysofinu [~dysofinu@193.43.249.169] has joined #openttd 23:34:10 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:19 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@141.114.221.19] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:41:16 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-164-125-149.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:44 *** Mark_ [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:10 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]