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00:15:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:17:09 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 00:17:29 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:27:32 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:44 *** ecke_ [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 00:32:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:10 *** ecke_ [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [] 00:33:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:41:41 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 01:53:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15586 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt settings.cpp): -Fix [FS#2687]: Changing vehicle.dynamic_engines when there are already vehicles can cause crashes. 02:02:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:08:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.38.176] has quit [Quit: tuiQ] 02:17:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 02:25:36 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:25:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 02:28:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-158-229.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:33:39 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:43:05 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:46:04 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@62.199.78.128] has joined #openttd 02:46:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:48:22 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: sleep.] 02:52:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:52:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:52:41 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 02:55:53 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:55:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 03:00:31 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.37.42] has quit [Quit: An exit status of zero indicates success, and a nonzero value indicates failure.] 03:01:06 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-65.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 03:05:22 *** Yeggzzz [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust620.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06:03 *** LUADuck [~luaduck@79-72-144-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:09:39 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet736.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:56 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@e177142254.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: In aller Welt werden die Parallelen zur Krise 1929 diskutiert, aber damals wurde wenigstens noch die Verantwortung ÃŒbernommen. Da sind die Banker noch rei] 03:19:57 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:54 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:22:27 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 03:41:12 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:37 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:38:09 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has left #openttd [] 04:41:12 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:48:30 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 04:48:30 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48:34 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 05:12:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm89.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:17:00 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-65.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:32 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0BED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 06:49:17 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051175200.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:01:58 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:02:04 <Timitry> Morning 07:02:25 <petern> yes 07:03:24 <Timitry> One question... When writing english texts, would you write Path Signals and Block Signals in uppercase letters because those are proper nouns or write them in lowercase like everything else? 07:10:15 <planetmaker> they're imo normal nowns 07:10:24 <planetmaker> good morning #openttd :) 07:12:03 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad4622a.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 07:12:43 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 07:13:25 <Forked> morning =) 07:13:32 <Yexo> morning :) 07:15:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad4623c.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:58 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 07:18:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:23:31 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:24:31 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:24:31 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 07:25:18 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:25:43 <Timitry> planetmaker: So that means you would write them lower- or uppercase? 07:27:51 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust620.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:30:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15587 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_vehiclelist.cpp: -Fix (r15345): I should really test even those simple api functions better. 07:31:51 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 07:38:39 <planetmaker> Timitry: I'd write it lower case. It's not a name imo 07:38:52 <planetmaker> it's a word like washing machine 07:39:53 <planetmaker> I don't write that with capital letters only because "washing" specifies what kind of machine it is. 07:41:47 <planetmaker> it would be different if it were Timitry-signals :P 07:42:36 <Timitry> Hehe, okay, guess you got a point there :) 07:42:43 <Timitry> I wrote them lowercase now 07:47:36 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81FF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:49:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81F5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:49:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:57:31 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 08:19:58 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:21:17 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 08:22:24 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28:12 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 08:33:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C407.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:46 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@62.199.78.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:00 *** fce2 [~fce2@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:06:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:20:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C407.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 09:25:33 <dihedral> morning 09:25:44 <Timitry> morning dihedral 09:25:49 * dihedral just sat through a 2 hour (unscheduled) meeting :-S 09:26:07 <Timitry> Uh, what do you do? 09:26:14 <dihedral> admin and soft-dev 09:34:19 <Timitry> Hehe :) 09:34:53 <planetmaker> g'morning dihedral :) 09:35:20 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 09:36:02 <dihedral> hey pm 09:36:49 *** loc [loc@bla.at] has left #openttd [] 09:43:09 <Timitry> Hm, anyone knows if it's possible on "our" wiki, that if you have inlined an image, to stop the inline, so that the following text will be under the image rather than at the side of it? In the "original" wikipedia, this is possible with {{subst:Absatz}}, but "our" wiki does not know that command... 09:49:50 <dihedral> Timitry, i am pretty sure that the wiki also has documentation 09:49:55 <dihedral> ;-) 09:51:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C407.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:54:20 <Timitry> Ah, found it... 09:54:32 <Timitry> Well-hidden, and also just on the regular wikipedia 09:54:32 <Timitry> <br clear="all" /> 09:55:10 <db48x> standard html stuff 09:55:40 <Timitry> well, yeah 09:56:51 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:56 <Timitry> although i'm not really used to things like that anymore, i'd rather use <br style="clear:both;"> 09:57:05 <db48x> yea, me too 09:57:14 <db48x> or just clear: both on whatever comes next 09:57:16 *** goodger [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:57:17 <db48x> the paragraph itself 09:57:24 <Timitry> jep 09:59:47 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:47 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59:50 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 10:12:58 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:57 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has joined #openttd 10:24:43 <Timitry> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/User:Timitry/Junctions 10:26:22 <Timitry> I guess i'm almost ready to replace most of the wikis content on junctions ;-) 10:26:39 <Timitry> What do you think? 10:27:16 <petern> i think any article on junctions is pointless 10:27:40 <petern> hmm 10:27:40 <petern> okay 10:27:42 <petern> i like that page 10:27:55 <petern> which is just simple advance 10:28:03 <petern> but any page which gives a junction layout to use is pointless 10:29:39 <KingJ> Looks better than what's currently on the junctions page 10:30:16 <petern> yes 10:30:44 <petern> all the example junction pages linked from the current junction are horrible 10:33:26 <KingJ> The only problem I have with examples is that I build my trains the other way round, up on the left, down on the right 10:34:18 <Timitry> Hehe, UKler are not being considered ;) 10:34:51 <Timitry> And my pages aim to give players a basic knowledge on how to build junctions & show them what's important, so they can build their own 10:39:45 <Ammler> are saves with noai-ais compatible to newer versions? 10:40:20 <Ammler> dbg: [ai] The AI died unexpectedly. 10:40:43 <petern> i would guess that's up to the AI 10:41:27 <Rubidium> Ammler: they can be, but it up to the author (assuming you mean never versions of the AI) 10:41:28 <Ammler> I meant, is it possible to update nightly? 10:41:34 <Rubidium> yes 10:42:07 <Ammler> what else could this debug output mean? 10:42:24 <Rubidium> that the AIs saveload code is broken 10:45:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C407.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 10:45:29 <Ammler> hmm. loading an older autosave seems to work, strange. 10:47:01 <Ammler> no, fail alarm :-( 11:04:13 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:06:28 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:45 *** ecke [~ecke@pc151-167.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 11:19:46 *** ecke [~ecke@pc151-167.upce.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:20:36 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad923f1.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:20:36 *** bleepy is now known as Guest663 11:20:36 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 11:23:01 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:45 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad923f1.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:25:45 *** bleepy is now known as Guest664 11:25:45 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 11:25:53 *** Guest664 [bleepy@5ad923f1.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26:31 *** Guest663 [bleepy@5ad87cee.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:53 <planetmaker> apropos debug output: is there a way to obtain AI debug output (AI console) as a text file instead of the ingame console? 11:49:36 <dihedral> openttd -d ai=9 2>filename 11:57:12 <planetmaker> hm :) 11:57:14 <planetmaker> tx 11:57:34 <planetmaker> that's all ai-related output. But if I only want the one related to one? 12:04:46 <dihedral> then you switch the 2 (stderr with stdout), pipe it through grep and send that output to a file :-P 12:10:36 *** fce2 [~fce2@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:10:45 <planetmaker> :S 12:11:09 <planetmaker> doesn't sound ideal. 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yeah... :S 13:37:52 <Forked> 42022 13:39:38 <dihedral> that's alain 13:39:39 <planetmaker> outch. even worse... 13:40:01 <dihedral> would take an admin to check the ip's 13:40:05 <dihedral> or mod 13:40:47 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=767925#p767925 <-- the answer :P 13:43:12 <dihedral> i read one line and gave up 13:43:38 <planetmaker> well... something with bus and same orders 13:43:50 <planetmaker> I only skimmed it :P 13:45:42 <Forked> shared orders for ze win 13:46:06 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad00e8a.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 13:46:07 *** bleepy is now known as Guest694 13:46:07 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 13:46:56 *** Guest694 [bleepy@5ad00e8a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:57 *** Felicitus [~Felicitus@idefix.timohummel.com] has joined #openttd 13:56:03 <Felicitus> howdy 13:56:34 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:30 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-65.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:33 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 14:07:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15588 /trunk/src/ (economy.cpp saveload/afterload.cpp station_cmd.cpp): -Fix: change owner of waypoints and deleted stations when merging companies or when a company benkrupts 14:11:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15589 /trunk/src/ (waypoint.cpp waypoint_gui.cpp): 14:11:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: drawing of waypoints with invalid owner was broken 14:11:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change: don't take over waypoints without owner, it could belong to a bankrupted company (and the code was broken) - savegame conversion code is a bit more liberal now, too 14:13:53 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:16:08 <dihedral> orudge, around? 14:22:05 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@92.1.59.42] has joined #openttd 14:22:36 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.59.42] has quit [Quit: tuiq] 14:24:51 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:25:31 <Ammler> why doesn't have network_server.tmp have extension sav? 14:25:51 <Ammler> he, -1have 14:26:12 <Ammler> (or not) 14:27:09 <Ammler> or how to load that save over rcon? 14:30:45 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:05 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 14:39:03 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:40:59 <dihedral> Ammler, the file is not as up to date as your autosaves 14:41:13 <dihedral> at least not on my dedicated server 14:41:25 <dihedral> it's not like the server writes the gamestate to it all the time! 14:42:54 <Brokkoli> but it is a savegame 14:43:09 <Brokkoli> so why not .sav 14:43:37 <Ammler> dihedral: it is the save from last join, afaik. 14:43:56 <Ammler> very usefull if you join, change something and want to revert it. 14:44:10 <dihedral> .... 14:44:21 <dihedral> Ammler: start a thread in the forums :-D 14:44:33 <Ammler> why? 14:44:38 <Ammler> about what? 14:45:20 <dihedral> your fake 'undo' thingy :-P 14:45:51 <Ammler> oh well, it was just a question, you can load it with -g 14:46:50 <Ammler> but there might be something in, which isn't in usual saves... 14:47:00 <Ammler> (or opposite) 14:47:21 <Rubidium> a scenario is a savegame too, why isn't it .sav? 14:47:41 <Rubidium> a tt(o|d(p)) is a savegame, why isn't it .sav? 14:48:57 <Ammler> well, you go to far now :P 14:51:31 <dihedral> Ammler, would you not rather want to ask why the load command on openttd's console does not let you load the tmp file? 14:52:11 <Ammler> dihedral: I guess, you can 14:52:25 <Ammler> with load <num> 14:52:40 <Ammler> so no, that would be the wrong question :P 14:52:53 <dihedral> then what is the problem if you can load it that way? 14:53:14 <Ammler> it isn't that easy to determine that number... 14:53:26 <Ammler> specially if you have 255 autosaves ;-) 14:54:16 <dihedral> and what is the problem with quit and loading the game with -g? 14:54:42 <Ammler> even ap can't do that 14:55:23 <dihedral> Ammler, if you are using ap you can write a custom command that will run ls, search the output for the file you are looking for and run load with the appropriate file number 14:57:09 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:57:24 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:20 <orudge> dihedral? 15:02:38 <dihedral> ah perfect 15:02:41 <dihedral> well 15:05:40 <planetmaker> Rubidium: how come you think that people actually should start reading sticky posts?! :P 15:06:41 <dihedral> they have the same standing as readme files :_D 15:07:17 <dihedral> uh - the smiley got a punch in the face by the looks of it 15:07:40 <planetmaker> do-not-readmes :P 15:08:32 <dihedral> esp not if you are dislexic - you then read nothing 15:11:29 *** ecke [~ecke@pc154-97.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 15:11:57 *** ecke [~ecke@pc154-97.upce.cz] has quit [] 15:12:19 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.59.42] has joined #openttd 15:12:38 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@92.1.59.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:14:02 *** ecke [~ecke@pc154-97.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 15:21:00 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21:25 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:24:37 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.39.137] has joined #openttd 15:25:07 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.39.137] has quit [] 15:25:19 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:26:23 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 15:27:53 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.39.137] has joined #openttd 15:28:39 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.39.137] has quit [] 15:28:52 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.39.137] has joined #openttd 15:44:11 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:48:55 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 15:56:40 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:56:45 *** M4rk is now known as Mark_ 15:57:57 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad923c6.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:57:57 *** bleepy is now known as Guest726 15:57:57 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 15:59:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:03:17 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.39.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:06 *** Guest726 [bleepy@5ad00e8a.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:13 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:06:48 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.172.19] has joined #openttd 16:11:01 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D4C4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:13:09 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 16:18:34 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.172.19] has quit [Quit: An exit status of zero indicates success, and a nonzero value indicates failure.] 16:22:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd72e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that bus guy appears to be a little slow... 16:32:57 <Belugas> alleluia! 16:37:40 *** ecke [~ecke@pc154-97.upce.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38:41 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: yeah :-) I stopped replying him... 16:41:19 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0C711.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:20 *** GoneWacko [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:05 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:11:55 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 17:12:46 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 17:16:34 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:26:48 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:49 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:34:49 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 17:44:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C407.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:51 <Aali> I see squirrel moved into the main repo 17:46:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:46:53 <Aali> good stuff 17:51:08 <Belugas> so said my pusher 17:54:05 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 17:56:45 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:00 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:15:36 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.95.89] has joined #openttd 18:16:56 <batti5> is thare anybody hoo can help me, to make a grf of stripes i made? 18:17:54 <Ammler> t<->p 18:19:11 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has quit [Quit: Caught signal 15, Terminated] 18:19:18 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:51 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:07 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has joined #openttd 18:52:19 *** Eoin [Eoin@92-233-181-117.cable.ubr08.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:56:01 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:18 <Aali> oh and MSVC is not too happy about the extern declaration for _screenshot_name in openttd.cpp 19:01:20 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has joined #openttd 19:01:30 <Aali> you get some link-time warnings 19:08:07 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:11:14 <energetic> are there icons present representing city and town? 19:11:54 <Rubidium> Und ich sehe, dass das hier eine Sinnlose Diskussion wird!Sauer 19:13:43 <Rubidium> right... don't clean up your desk and hit your mouse, especially after browsing some german site 19:14:11 <energetic> :D 19:18:10 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:19:32 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:38 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.95.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21:22 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DF89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:44 *** dfox [~dfox@rb5cm232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:14 *** dfox [~dfox@rb5cm232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 19:25:13 <energetic> --> http://tweakers.net/ext/i.dsp?FotoAlbumID=149006&format=full&ext=.png 19:25:45 <energetic> Filter by town or city 19:30:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:31:11 <SmatZ> energetic: 403 19:31:14 <Wolf01> olleh 19:31:24 <SmatZ> ehlo Wolf01 19:32:53 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-160.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 19:34:15 *** Felicitus [~Felicitus@idefix.timohummel.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:36:45 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:14 <energetic> http://tweakers.net/ext/f/KYlPdJgpgcxUahYP52t7Zbn3/full.png 19:39:25 <energetic> that one should work better 19:40:16 <energetic> im not satisfied by the icons yet, they both can be improved i think 19:41:40 <energetic> But Im sure you will get the idea 19:43:48 <Belugas> a filtering? 19:44:12 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm89.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Left 4 Bed] 19:50:00 <Belugas> a buffering? 19:50:04 <Belugas> a buggering? 19:50:11 <Belugas> a nothing? 19:50:19 <Belugas> a that-thing? 19:50:31 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@e224212.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:37 <Belugas> a quiting! 19:51:36 <frosch123> energetic: you should also put the icon in each row 19:55:11 <Alberth> Belugas: apparently it is so secret nobody wants to tell 19:58:28 <Belugas> so secret i can only tell stupidity about it too... 20:01:39 <Yexo_> <Aali> oh and MSVC is not too happy about the extern declaration for _screenshot_name in openttd.cpp <- what are the warnings you get? (and what msvc vesion do you use?) 20:06:37 <el_en> oaic 10floW 20:07:29 <George> frosch123: what result should CB 2D return to have CC1 and no CC2 (default green) if vehicle is defined as 2CC? Failing callback acts like 00 C0 20:07:58 <George> is there any value that does not requre calculation? 20:09:32 <Aali> Yexo_: 2008 Express, and its complaining about conflicting types (char * in openttd.cpp, char[128] in screenshot.cpp) 20:09:50 <frosch123> George: without calculation - no 20:10:05 <Yexo_> I wonder why I didn't get that warning, using MSVC 2008 express myself too 20:10:15 <Aali> only on release builds 20:10:22 <Aali> debug builds get no warning 20:10:32 <Yexo_> ah, that'll be the reason :) 20:10:45 *** Belgabor [~Belgabor@p5B2EFAFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:13 <Belgabor> Hi guys, are screenshots currently broken in trunk? 20:11:27 <Aali> heh 20:11:46 <Yexo_> not as faras I know 20:11:46 <Aali> we were just discussing that 20:11:49 <Aali> and yes they are 20:12:27 <Yexo_> Aali: link warnings != broken 20:12:37 <Aali> it crashes the game 20:12:49 <Yexo_> I see 20:13:12 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:13:43 <Aali> (I didn't know that either, just tried it now) 20:13:48 <glx> that's something for SmatZ I guess 20:14:05 <Yexo_> glx: it was my codechange that broke it 20:14:20 <glx> I though he played in this area 20:14:44 <Yexo_> @commit 15584 20:14:44 <DorpsGek> Yexo_: Commit by yexo :: r15584 /trunk/src (11 files in 2 dirs) (2009-02-25 21:45:14 UTC) 20:14:45 <DorpsGek> Yexo_: -Codechange: Move several variables from variables.h to more appropriate headers. 20:14:47 <Belgabor> segfault somewhere in the string/UTF8 handling 20:14:58 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:15:19 <SmatZ> glx: Belgabor I will have a look :) 20:15:41 <Belgabor> want a backtrace? Just have it ready :p 20:15:46 <Yexo_> SmatZ: changing openttd.cpp line 718 to : extern char _screenshot_name[128]; fixs it 20:15:51 <SmatZ> Belgabor: would be good :) 20:15:56 <Aali> ^ what he said 20:15:56 <Yexo_> just that isn't a nice fix 20:16:30 <Belgabor> gimme a sec to pastebin it 20:18:29 <Yexo_> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/screenshot.diff 20:18:33 <SmatZ> Yexo_: why it isn't nice? it's as "nice" as current trunk ;) 20:18:46 <SmatZ> broken by r15584 btw 20:18:46 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 20:19:06 *** Zorn [~zorn@f054001145.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:19:23 <frosch123> what a redundant discussion :) 20:20:19 <SmatZ> Yexo: placing that extern in screenshot.h is not a solution? 20:20:33 <Belgabor> http://pastebin.com/m2d6205f7 20:20:42 <Yexo> that's also an option, but the only place it's used is in openttd.cpp 20:21:38 <SmatZ> or move ShowScreenshotResult to screenshot.cpp 20:22:26 <frosch123> George: however, your computation consists of a single addition, resp. one varaction2 without computation would be sufficient, as the 1cc recolour maps have fixed numbers 20:24:35 <George> I know that. I was interesting about a single value that has this effect. Something like magic value 00 C0 that applies both CC1 and CC2 20:24:43 <Yexo> SmatZ: screenshot.cpp currently doesn't include any string headers 20:24:52 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:02 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:25:17 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:25:41 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/screenshot2.diff <- still needs some includes in screenshot.cpp 20:25:48 <Yexo> but I prefer the first diff 20:26:06 <Belgabor> Other question: how does the showing of PBS reserved tracks work? Are these special sprites or are existing ones somehow automatically modified? I'm thinking about making some more visible 32bpp replacement (at least for the maglevs) if possible. 20:26:38 <SmatZ> Belgabor: existing ones are drawn in PALETTE_TO_GREY or so... 20:27:19 <SmatZ> Yexo: but the second removes one extern and moves screenshot-related function from openttd.cpp to screenshot.cpp 20:27:39 <SmatZ> also, instead of making enum with 1 item, it's better to define static const uint 20:27:44 <Belgabor> ic, damn, I sispected something like that. Unfortunately it hardly makes a difference for the maglevs. 20:27:49 <Belgabor> *suspected 20:28:23 <Yexo> SmatZ: I've also the smallest fix: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/screenshot3.diff 20:28:29 <SmatZ> Yexo: though, there is a MAX_PATH macro... maybe it can be used instead? 20:28:36 <michi_cc> Belgabor: single track sprites modified with PALETTE_CRASH to be exact 20:28:52 <SmatZ> Yexo: that's the best :) 20:30:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15590 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix (r15584): _screenshot_name is an array, not a char * pointer. 20:31:13 <Belgabor> Has anyone considered how that should/will work with 32bpp? 20:33:36 <frosch123> it does work as less as drawing crashed vehicles 20:33:43 <frosch123> :p 20:34:07 <Belgabor> Thanks for the screenshot fix =) 20:34:30 <Belgabor> frosch123, in other words "no" :p 20:35:51 <frosch123> but you can include 8bpp pixels in 32bpp sprites 20:36:12 <frosch123> also the most important part of 32bpp is the alpha channel 20:36:13 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:46 <Belgabor> frosch123, you mean with the masks mostly intended for company colors? 20:37:20 <frosch123> where did you read "mostly intended for company colors" ? 20:37:29 <frosch123> but yes 20:39:54 <Belgabor> nowhere, I just learned about it in that context =) 20:41:24 *** andy` [andy@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:26 *** canidae [canidae@exent.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:45:29 *** canidae [canidae@exent.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D4C4.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:47:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:54 *** LUADuck [~root@79-72-144-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 20:48:58 <LUADuck> Hey guys 20:50:37 <LUADuck> Anyone got any experience with Autopilot? 20:51:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-217-252.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:51:41 <energetic> *back* 20:52:17 <energetic> frosch123: you mean like in front of every town to indicate it is a town or city? 20:52:42 <frosch123> more like: in the same column as the buttons 20:53:51 <energetic> you mean above the two sort buttons or left from it placed? 20:54:40 <frosch123> I meant right aligned 20:54:44 <LUADuck> Yeah, anyone got any experience with Autopilot? 20:54:53 <LUADuck> or could you send me in the direction of a channel that do 20:55:29 *** andy` [andy@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has joined #openttd 20:55:31 <energetic> like the station window, first filter buttons then sort buttons 20:55:33 <frosch123> LUADuck: I have no idea of autopilot, but if you would ask you question someone might answer you 20:56:09 <planetmaker> LUADuck: autopilot or ap+ ? 20:56:12 <LUADuck> AP+ 20:56:14 <Yexo> LUADuck: if you really want another channel, try #openttd.ap or #ap+ (the latter if for ap+) 20:56:14 <LUADuck> :V 20:56:23 <planetmaker> then dih the person of your choice 20:56:32 <planetmaker> and visit the channels Yexo mentioned :) 20:56:50 <planetmaker> at least the first is frequented 20:57:32 <LUADuck> Well openttd.ap is empty 20:57:47 <LUADuck> And FYP ap+ redirects 20:57:51 <LUADuck> fyi* 20:57:55 <frosch123> energetic: however, if you want to filter for something, you should also see the filtered property in the list 20:58:18 <energetic> But i though that making a new column eats away valuable space - where those two now can be combined. If more icons need be added in future, maybe then add column? 20:58:42 <energetic> yes, that is already taken care of by rendering the towns different then cities 20:59:10 <energetic> I have several options: (city), render cities black, render cities bold etc 20:59:36 <frosch123> there is no bold :) 20:59:52 <energetic> or render non-city towns with some space (tab) 20:59:56 <frosch123> and if you put icons in the buttons you should use the same icons in the list 20:59:58 <energetic> sure there is :) 21:00:07 <energetic> yes 21:00:22 <energetic> ie you could render it twice, though its dirty 21:00:38 <energetic> (with one pixel diff, or more if you are making it bold) 21:00:46 <energetic> ;) 21:01:23 <Belugas> #would yuou still kiss me 21:01:26 <Belugas> #if you find out 21:01:27 <frosch123> ok, correction: with the sprite font there is no non-bold 21:01:46 <LUADuck> :( 21:02:01 <energetic> so it would be doublebold 21:02:11 <energetic> that would be a bit too bold 21:03:00 <LUADuck> Yeah openttd.ap is dead 21:03:44 <frosch123> LUADuck: maybe noone asked questions 21:05:21 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:37 *** andy` [andy@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:49 *** canidae [canidae@exent.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:52 <LUADuck> Question asked :3 21:07:57 <Sacro> LUADuck: #autopilot ? 21:08:30 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.95.89] has joined #openttd 21:08:46 <planetmaker> LUADuck: ap+ has two developers at most. So... your questions will be seen, but you cannot expect them to be online 24/7 :) 21:08:59 <batti5> problem encodeing grf 21:09:00 <batti5> Warning: Found sprite 1 looking for sprite 0. 21:09:02 <batti5> Error: Encountered invalid character looking for literal byte. 21:09:03 <batti5> While reading sprite: 21:09:07 <batti5> please help 21:09:22 <LUADuck> planetmaker: Any ETA on their uptime? 21:09:41 <planetmaker> eveing hours CET :) dih also sometimes during the day 21:09:54 <Sacro> batti5: what help do you need? 21:10:29 <planetmaker> also make sure to have the correct tcl version and latest ap+ trunk 21:10:48 <frosch123> batti5: paste.openttd.org is you friend for showing the whole command line + error messages and the nfo 21:10:50 <planetmaker> correct doesn't necessarily translate to latest concerning tcl version 21:11:39 <planetmaker> and if you have a bouncer, LUADuck, you could stay in that channel and wait for an answer :) 21:11:47 <LUADuck> bouncer 21:11:48 <LUADuck> uhuh 21:11:54 <batti5> its thare 21:12:07 <planetmaker> batti5: you need to provide a link... 21:12:19 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:23 <batti5> http://paste.openttd.org/179920 21:12:29 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:12:56 *** canidae [canidae@exent.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:00 <frosch123> oh, you are using the win version, so try running the nfo through dos2unix or unix2dos 21:13:12 <LUADuck> See http://paste.openttd.org/179921 21:13:33 <Ammler> batti5: maybe nforenum could help too. 21:13:51 <batti5> i tryed 21:13:53 <frosch123> or a linux binary compiled from trunk :) 21:14:10 <frosch123> no, it is called misc, not trunk 21:15:25 <batti5> http://paste.openttd.org/179922 21:15:33 <Ammler> LUADuck: you use now linux? 21:15:44 <frosch123> and the nfo? 21:15:55 *** andy` [andy@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has joined #openttd 21:16:02 <Ammler> looks like mingw or such 21:16:20 <batti5> http://paste.openttd.org/179923 21:17:00 <LUADuck> yup 21:17:04 <LUADuck> wait 21:17:08 <LUADuck> Ammler: yup 21:17:08 <frosch123> uncomment the action 8 and put the grfid in quotes 21:17:27 <frosch123> or better: "RT" 00 01 21:17:46 <batti5> ??? 21:17:51 <glx> 2 STRIPES\LE5100.pcx 0 0 01 24 8 -3 -12 <-- SPRITES != STRIPES 21:18:09 <Ammler> LUADuck: there is no known windows admin using autopilot :-) 21:18:09 <frosch123> 0 * 1 08 07 "RT" 00 01 "LE5100 Class 41" 00 "By Batti5 & Andersl" 00 21:18:15 <frosch123> ^^ write it like that 21:18:55 <batti5> Error on sprite 4 21:18:56 <Ammler> I guess, teh revision detection migh fail there. 21:18:58 <LUADuck> Ammler: What? 21:19:06 <LUADuck> Ammler: It's Linux dummy 21:19:18 <LUADuck> Ammler: besides, my roots are linux 21:19:25 <batti5> Warning on sprite 6 (level 2). 21:19:26 <Ammler> ah, I thought your yup is for mingw :-) 21:20:00 <batti5> /!!Error (49): Missing real sprite. Sprite 2 declared 8, but only 1 have been seen. 21:20:36 <glx> that's true 21:20:44 <Ammler> LUADuck: you have a nightly running with ap+ trunk? 21:20:50 <glx> you included only one real sprite 21:20:55 <frosch123> 1 * 4 01 00 01 08 <- that says one trainengine with 8 sprites follows 21:21:28 <batti5> how to fix? 21:21:53 <frosch123> how many sprites does your engine have? 21:22:12 <batti5> 1 i think 21:22:18 <LUADuck> Yeah AP is gone 21:22:34 <frosch123> so your engine looks the same no matter in which direction it is driving? 21:22:48 <batti5> no 21:23:02 <batti5> 4 in 1 pcx 21:23:14 <batti5> 4 stripes 21:23:22 <frosch123> 1 * 4 01 00 01 04 21:23:30 <frosch123> so replace the 08 with 04 21:23:42 <frosch123> and define all four sprites after that 21:23:52 <batti5> how? 21:24:01 <frosch123> 2 STRIPES\LE5100.pcx 0 0 01 24 8 -3 -12 <- that is one sprite 21:24:07 <frosch123> you need four lines like that 21:24:59 <batti5> no idea how to do that http://paste.openttd.org/179924 21:25:43 <frosch123> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=TheFirstVehicle <- read that 21:26:51 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.59.42] has joined #openttd 21:27:59 <LUADuck> warghhh 21:27:59 <batti5> don`t understan a thing from it 21:28:25 <Brokkoli> it's realy not easy 21:29:23 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.59.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:23 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 21:29:29 <Belgabor> Is it normal that when using a freetype font and activating font aa the letters look like marsian? 21:29:49 <batti5> what is wrong here http://paste.openttd.org/179925 ? 21:30:22 <frosch123> the 08 21:30:34 <batti5> and? 21:30:47 <frosch123> it is the number of sprites that follow 21:31:08 <Brokkoli> batti5: you should look here 21:31:09 <Brokkoli> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action1 21:31:24 <batti5> on, 1 more error Offset 32: No more data was expected. 21:32:39 <batti5> http://paste.openttd.org/179926 21:32:41 <frosch123> sprite 6 is an action4 21:32:55 <frosch123> in the next line you seem to want to use a action 0 21:33:00 <frosch123> but the beginning is missing 21:33:29 <batti5> how to aad it? 21:34:02 <frosch123> <Sprite-number> * <Length> 00 <Feature> <Num-props> <Num-info> <Id> <- insert that after sprite 6, and fill in the appropiate values 21:34:14 <SmatZ> aad? ascii adjust after division? 21:34:43 <SmatZ> nah, before division... 21:35:00 <frosch123> ascii adjuste ante division? 21:35:07 <SmatZ> :-) 21:35:17 <SmatZ> Hannibal ante portas! 21:35:42 <frosch123> poor hannibal 21:35:45 <SmatZ> :-p 21:35:48 <el_en> English Only! 21:35:59 <frosch123> id est 21:36:04 <frosch123> exempli gratia 21:36:08 <frosch123> ^^ perfect english :) 21:36:39 <LUADuck> non 21:36:47 <SmatZ> Praga mater urbium :-) 21:37:11 <SmatZ> sadly, my knowledge of latin ends roughly here... 21:37:40 <el_en> et tu, SmatZ 21:37:58 <SmatZ> and me? 21:38:16 <glx> tu quoqui fili 21:38:26 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.95.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:52 <glx> or quoque (/me is unsure) 21:39:00 <frosch123> it was quite fun when I discovered that all those weird english abbreviations, I could not make sense of, were actually latin :) 21:39:06 <SmatZ> google translate failed at this one :) 21:39:21 <LUADuck> So yeah, I don't know what to do while I'm waiting on ap 21:39:42 <SmatZ> frosch123: BC = before Christ, AD = Anno domini? is it mixing of english and latin abbrevations? 21:39:46 <frosch123> you are talking quite elliptic 21:40:10 <Sacro> SmatZ: yep 21:40:14 <Sacro> should be AC techincally 21:40:25 <frosch123> ante christus :p 21:40:32 <Belugas> i'd rather use DC 21:40:34 <Sacro> yeah 21:40:40 <el_en> SmatZ: that's because the ancient romans spoke English before Christ was born. 21:40:41 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad456a5.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:40:41 *** bleepy is now known as Guest760 21:40:41 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 21:40:46 <SmatZ> hehe :) 21:41:23 <Belugas> AD = After Death, by the way... 21:41:29 <el_en> is not 21:41:37 <Belugas> is so! 21:41:49 <el_en> is not 21:42:21 <Belugas> is so, because i say it is so, and becasue i can kick you if you say otherwise! 21:43:13 <frosch123> Belugas: you can kick him also if he does not 21:43:43 <frosch123> so, coffee is empty 21:43:45 <Belugas> true :) but i have some moral concerns kicking without justification heheh 21:43:47 <frosch123> night :) 21:43:50 <Belugas> bye 21:43:56 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd72e.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:33 <Belugas> coffee is empty... nice way of saying i'm tired, got no more juice to run the system :) 21:44:39 <Belugas> urban poetry 21:44:51 <SmatZ> :) 21:45:07 <el_en> "Because B.C. is the English abbreviation for Before Christ, some people incorrectly conclude that A.D. must mean After Death, i.e., after the death of Jesus. If that were true, the thirty-three or so years of his life would not be in any era.[4]" 21:45:09 <LUADuck> raaggeeee 21:46:00 <Belugas> good work, LN :) 21:46:00 <SmatZ> impressive 21:46:23 <Belugas> note: it must be true, since it comes from the internet :D 21:46:28 <SmatZ> :-D 21:46:51 <el_en> that's not from the internet, it's from wikipedia. 21:47:04 *** Guest760 [bleepy@5ad923c6.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:12 <el_en> and if something in wikipedia is not true _yet_, it _will become_ true soon enough. 21:47:13 <Brokkoli> the thirty-three or so years of his life would not be in any era.[4]" <= thats wc 21:47:19 <Brokkoli> while christ :P 21:47:24 <SmatZ> tricky question: what abbrevation did ancient Romans use instead of BC? 21:47:41 <SmatZ> like, on buildings, coins... 21:47:55 * Prof_Frink smacks SmatZ with a cricket bat 21:48:02 <Brokkoli> ac 21:48:24 <Belugas> damsn... 21:48:25 <SmatZ> cricket... bat? 21:48:33 <Belugas> wikipedia is not the password i had in mind :S 21:48:41 <el_en> SmatZ: let me guess: none, because they weren't christians especially before christ. 21:48:48 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: bat for the cricketery 21:49:02 <Wolf01> 'night 21:49:03 <Prof_Frink> el_en: Never mind that, how would they know what to count down to? 21:49:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host114-234-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:49:11 <Prof_Frink> They're romans, not mayans. 21:49:27 <SmatZ> well they didn't know there will be Christ born... 21:49:48 *** LUADuck is now known as OnStar 21:49:52 <OnStar> I have an idea 21:50:04 <OnStar> Cannot join #openttdcoop (You are banned). 21:50:05 <OnStar> Damn. 21:50:09 *** OnStar is now known as LUADuck 21:50:22 <SmatZ> LUADuck: why are you banned? 21:50:33 <LUADuck> Many reasons 21:50:49 <LUADuck> It boiled down to them getting annoyed with me for deleting MY OWN station 21:51:13 <Darkvater> Belugas: it was cheap :) 240EUR 21:51:19 <SmatZ> well, in coop, it's not "your" station :) 21:51:34 <LUADuck> Could someone else (not banned from ottdc) ask after me in there? 21:51:49 <Ammler> LUADuck: those people are here too. 21:51:51 <Belugas> relatively speaking indedd, Darkvater :) 21:51:55 <Belugas> good memory, bty the way ;) 21:52:00 <LUADuck> Ammler: I doubt every single one 21:52:05 <Darkvater> Belugas: /away ;p 21:52:11 <Ammler> everyone able to help you. 21:52:29 <LUADuck> Well then I'm f****d 21:52:44 <Ammler> and, btw. they (we) do not more about AP ;-) 21:52:53 <Ammler> know* 21:53:05 <LUADuck> openttd.ap is dead 21:53:12 <Belugas> #I want to fuck you lke an ANIMAL 21:53:22 <LUADuck> kk belugas 21:53:24 <Belugas> #i want to feel you from the Inside! 21:53:30 <Darkvater> hmm 21:53:35 <Darkvater> pretty disturbing 21:53:38 <Darkvater> I'm outta here :) 21:53:41 <SmatZ> :-D 21:53:42 <Belugas> does it work properly, Darkvater? 21:53:45 <Belugas> noo.... 21:53:46 <Belugas> stay.... 21:53:55 <Belugas> i'll shut my big ... 21:53:58 <Belugas> fingers? 21:54:00 <Darkvater> oh yeah baby 21:54:03 <Darkvater> it's too big :P 21:54:09 <Darkvater> or my table's too small 21:54:15 <Darkvater> now I actually have to move my head 21:54:20 <Belugas> now... it's me who is disturbed... 21:54:21 <Darkvater> this is awhole new feeling for me 21:54:37 <LUADuck> The iGiggle. Now jiggling mom's everywhere. 21:54:37 <Belugas> what? to feelyour head moving ? 21:54:44 <Belugas> buwhahahaha!!!! 21:54:45 <Darkvater> yes, for watching the screen 21:54:49 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DF89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55:23 <Belugas> i'm insanely tired... sorry 21:55:34 *** andy` [andy@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:37 *** canidae [canidae@exent.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:15 <Rubidium> insanely tired and it isn't even evening yet? You should consider getting out of bed later ;) 21:56:29 <Belugas> or not at all... 21:56:31 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad45695.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:56:31 *** bleepy is now known as Guest762 21:56:31 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 21:57:06 <Belugas> i was on a customer support call yesterday, until 23:00h. 21:57:28 <Belugas> and today, i've not even had the time to sit down and quietly swallowed my lunch 21:58:08 <SmatZ> :-( 22:01:17 * SpComb has been in bed since sunday evening 22:01:19 <SpComb> silly flu 22:01:24 <SmatZ> :-( 22:02:41 *** Guest762 [bleepy@5ad456a5.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:05:14 <Belugas> and now, i'm exhausted and now i leave and now i'll be out of the picture until later tomorrow 22:05:16 <Belugas> bye bye 22:05:45 <Rubidium> night Belugas 22:06:36 <SmatZ> night Belugas 22:06:45 <SmatZ> oh noes, another day is gone 22:13:23 *** canidae [canidae@exent.net] has joined #openttd 22:13:29 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:14:36 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:58 <Brokkoli> is there any "more highlevel" language for creating newgrfs? 22:20:07 <glx> no 22:20:12 <Brokkoli> ok.. 22:20:23 <Brokkoli> its a bit painful, programming that *g* 22:20:42 <glx> not really 22:20:56 <Brokkoli> ok with some more experience it may get better 22:21:08 <glx> true 22:21:17 *** andy` [andy@cassarossa.samfundet.no] has joined #openttd 22:21:21 <Rubidium> there's English that can be "compiled" into NFO by piping lots of money into a NFO coder 22:23:09 <Brokkoli> im not looking for somethink realy highlevel.. only symbolic names instead of numbers or something like that ;) 22:23:18 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:23:21 <planetmaker> loool :) 22:23:48 <Rubidium> the cpp can help; you just need to #define the symbols ;) 22:24:09 <Brokkoli> interesting idea 22:25:57 <Brokkoli> i will try to try that ;) 22:26:02 <el_en> http://stupidfilter.org/main/index.php?n=Main.About 22:29:44 <LUADuck> Ok, what the fuck 22:29:46 <LUADuck> dihedral: What? 22:29:58 <LUADuck> Dihedral just banned me from openttd.ap for NO reason 22:30:03 <Brokkoli> Text is likely to be stupid. 22:30:08 <Brokkoli> ok i'm detected 22:30:20 <dihedral> LUADuck, you posted your entire openttd.cfg to the channel! 22:30:26 <LUADuck> Yes I know 22:30:30 <LUADuck> But I corrected it 22:30:40 <dihedral> now you know why you got the kban 22:30:45 <LUADuck> Surely banning someone PURELY for that 22:31:16 <LUADuck> dihedral: http://paste.openttd.org/179930 22:31:20 <dihedral> lines enter irc according to a buffer and get delayed 22:31:20 <LUADuck> Happy now? 22:31:54 <Ammler> Brokkoli: there is Makefile template some coder use 22:31:58 <LUADuck> Posting my original openttd.cfg was a mistake 22:32:08 <LUADuck> FYI that's not the correct rcon password 22:32:46 <Brokkoli> where can i get it? 22:33:11 <Ammler> Brokkoli: good question, maybe ask some of "the bigger" coders. 22:33:12 <dihedral> i dont care for your rcon pass, and i think you realized that a wee bit too late, got annoyed and changed the password quickly 22:33:32 <LUADuck> kk 22:33:44 <dihedral> and i can see why the forums i found your admin application in - lets just say i can understand the other posts 22:33:49 <Brokkoli> ok i will do 22:33:52 <Brokkoli> thank you 22:34:01 <Ammler> Brokkoli: there are examples on our svn server using that file. 22:34:03 <LUADuck> dihedral: What? I'm not even signed up on the forums 22:34:23 <Ammler> DutchStations from XeryusTC, i.e. but there might be better examples. 22:34:27 <LUADuck> dihedral: I bet you're looking at JokerIce 22:34:54 <dihedral> where else would i be looking? 22:34:59 <Brokkoli> ok :) 22:35:03 <LUADuck> Well, a variety 22:35:06 <LUADuck> #luahelp 22:35:08 <LUADuck> facepunch 22:35:11 <LUADuck> duckystudios ffs 22:35:36 <dihedral> you just did not sign up there with your nick or real name :-P 22:35:49 <dihedral> and i find that thread rather amusing 22:35:55 <dihedral> http://forums.jokerice.co.uk/showthread.php?p=16207 22:36:51 <LUADuck> Hey I've got a wonderful idea 22:36:58 <LUADuck> Sign up and get me demoted 22:37:34 <dihedral> i have an even better idea 22:37:41 <dihedral> i extend my ignore list 22:37:52 <dihedral> or perhaps someone in this channel feels like setting a +q 22:38:03 <dihedral> i'll go with the first option 22:38:05 <LUADuck> I have a even better idea 22:38:15 <LUADuck> I'll stop hosting servers for openttd in the first place 22:38:34 <dihedral> you really think anybody here is interested in who hosts what servers? 22:38:48 <Yexo> quote from servers.openttd.org: "There are 130 clients and 162 servers." 22:38:55 <LUADuck> Well, a fair 3-8 servers 22:38:55 <Yexo> we need more players, not more servers 22:38:55 <dihedral> well, perhaps some people will be interested in Brianetta's server 22:38:58 <dihedral> but that's about it 22:39:11 <SmatZ> Yexo: I just wanted to post the same ;) 22:39:15 <dihedral> aye 22:39:55 <dihedral> you can fit all players into one game 22:40:02 <dihedral> easily :-D 22:40:21 <planetmaker> half a game 22:40:27 <dihedral> borring 22:40:34 <dihedral> :-D 22:40:53 <Yexo> let's all those 130 players enter the same 64x64 map :) 22:41:06 <planetmaker> u-hu 22:41:18 <dihedral> fun times :-) 22:41:19 <planetmaker> @calc 64*64 / 130 22:41:19 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 31.5076923077 22:41:26 <planetmaker> tiny space for each :) 22:41:28 *** JurrienK [~JurrienK@84-105-78-143.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:41:46 <Tefad> someone broke svn? 22:41:49 <dihedral> oh - and the openttdcoop games would of course be missed if they disappeared 22:41:53 <el_en> planetmaker: "Text is likely to be stupid." (the @calc line) 22:42:03 <LUADuck> Oh, also, if you want someone to raid, raid http://forums.duckystudios.org 22:42:05 <Yexo> Tefad: remove src/3rdparty and update again 22:42:05 <dihedral> Tefad, he only just joined the dev team, i doubt he broke it 22:42:34 <dihedral> LUADuck, we are not interested!!! 22:42:41 <LUADuck> Good, see you all later 22:42:45 *** LUADuck [~root@79-72-144-140.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 22:42:59 <dihedral> wow - that was easy 22:43:32 <dihedral> haha 22:43:42 <dihedral> can you see the username in that hostmask? 22:43:43 <dihedral> :-D 22:44:02 <SmatZ> hehe 22:44:13 <planetmaker> oh no! 22:44:27 <dihedral> only just mentioned something like that today to openttdcoop 22:44:28 <planetmaker> And I made today already jokes about root@... host masks :) 22:44:34 <dihedral> aye 22:44:36 <SmatZ> :o) 22:44:46 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:23 <dihedral> oh - and i bet that we will have a few servers less in the server list by now 22:45:41 <dihedral> 2 :-D 22:46:20 <dihedral> http://www.openttd.org/en/server/8262 <- nice 22:46:31 <Yexo> There are 129 clients and 160 servers. <- indeed 2 servers less :) 22:46:56 <Yexo> just make sure you don't mention the name of that server here :p 22:47:10 <dihedral> why does it work again? 22:47:13 *** JurrienK [~JurrienK@84-105-78-143.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:50:27 * Rubidium wonders whether he broke dih's autonightly 22:51:14 <dihedral> oh yes you did 22:51:15 <dihedral> :-D 22:51:16 <dihedral> hehe 22:51:23 <dihedral> thanks for the hint Rubidium 22:58:13 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 22:58:47 *** Yeggzzz [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust620.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:22 <Brianetta> 0.7 22:59:24 <Brianetta> wow 22:59:40 <Brianetta> gonna be interesting when the RCs come out 23:00:22 <NukeBuster|laptop> !logs 23:00:48 <Brianetta> !gifts 23:00:50 <NukeBuster|laptop> ehh, has that changed recently? 23:01:04 <welshdragon> it's under linkage 23:01:18 <welshdragon> linkage.tt-forums.net i think 23:01:49 <Brianetta> should really have been called coupling.tt-forums.net 23:01:58 <welshdragon> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd < the logs 23:02:13 <Brianetta> Might mention that to Owen in August. 23:06:25 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 23:07:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:34 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.60] has joined #openttd 23:25:16 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 23:29:22 *** NukeBuster|laptop [~opera@212-182-153-94.ip.telfort.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:36:27 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:48 *** fce2 [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has joined #openttd 23:39:44 *** Combuster is now known as [sleep]buster 23:40:00 *** pleeby [bleepy@5ad103f9.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 23:40:00 *** bleepy is now known as Guest778 23:40:00 *** pleeby is now known as bleepy 23:40:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't understand some people... "i want a button that automatically places tram lines on every road" 23:44:36 *** Guest778 [bleepy@5ad45695.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:30 <thingwath> maybe they simply see trams as a replacement for all road vehicles, like elrail for rail :) 23:59:26 <Ammler> how many ticks has a day? 23:59:54 <dihedral> 72 or 74?