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00:06:06 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:28:45 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-69.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:38:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:38:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38:40 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 00:50:20 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176228099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:57:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15905 /trunk/src/network/network_chat_gui.cpp: -Fix (r15424): chat completion got called twice causing tab completion to seemingly fail 01:00:34 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:17 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 01:06:38 *** Metalcore [~evan@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:09:58 *** Metalcore [~evan@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has joined #openttd 01:20:59 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.39.170] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 01:36:48 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|SRA412 01:42:39 *** padi [pad@bl8-182-24.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 01:49:31 *** ameno [~ameno@chello062178213196.10.15.tuwien.teleweb.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:13:11 *** scoz [~scoz@host-220-96.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #openttd 02:13:56 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:14:12 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 02:16:40 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 02:26:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 02:30:11 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:33:36 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:38:21 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has joined #openttd 02:51:45 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:02:39 <eMjay88> lol, crashed firefox with an xml file :S 03:07:46 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:16:29 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:18:24 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 03:32:19 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:38:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:48 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 03:42:22 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:46:19 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 05:05:02 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:37 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:11:30 *** ecke [~ecke@pc152-37.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 05:30:11 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:33:41 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0DFB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 05:41:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:52:48 *** iambap [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 05:53:33 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:55:36 *** pabmai [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:30:04 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 06:32:03 <dihedral> mornings 06:32:24 <Forked> mmmmm.. bacon. 06:33:51 <Yexo> good morning 06:38:39 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-work 06:44:59 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 06:57:17 <dihedral> http://www.openttd.org/en/contact <- you might want to change the url used for oftc.net from irc.oftc.net to www.oftc.net ;-) 06:57:21 <dihedral> check for yourself :-D 06:59:08 <petern> no, it should be irc://irc... 06:59:17 <petern> hmm 06:59:20 <petern> or something 06:59:24 <petern> the previous link is :o 06:59:58 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 07:03:37 <dihedral> the link to the channel ist, the link that used to redirect (or hold the contents of) www.oftc.net currently points to irc.oftc.net, which is the trac site of the donator for that server :-D 07:06:53 <Forked> don't forget the grin at the end :p 07:08:48 <petern> ist! 07:34:13 <welshdragon> petern is correct 07:35:27 <dihedral> ...? 07:35:33 <dihedral> welshdragon, that just made sense! 07:35:53 <welshdragon> pfft 07:36:03 * welshdragon always makes sense 07:39:28 <dihedral> ...? 07:39:35 <dihedral> yeah.... NO 07:44:06 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 07:54:32 *** ecke [~ecke@pc152-37.upce.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:39 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:02:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176228099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:14:22 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:27:03 <dihedral> a Vikthor 08:27:11 <dihedral> uh - a late comment ^^ 08:27:18 <Vikthor> hi 08:28:45 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35:03 <planetmaker> good morning 08:39:51 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:57 <dihedral> oi 08:59:27 *** scoz [~scoz@host-220-96.resnet.pdx.edu] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:59:38 <petern> OI! 08:59:39 <petern> YOU! 08:59:42 <petern> GET OFF MY LAWN! 09:00:57 <petern> urgh 09:01:14 <petern> anyone know how to turn off dynamic contrast on a viewsonic va2216w? 09:01:23 <petern> (i have no browser to look it up currently) 09:21:20 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-244.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:26:46 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:31:03 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> saturn.oftc.net quits: racetrack 09:33:24 *** Netsplit over, joins: racetrack 09:36:40 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.128.223] has joined #openttd 09:42:52 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:48:34 <Ammler> rss/atom feeds point to wrong url: http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/atom-log 09:49:01 <Ammler> Hello all, btw. :-) 09:49:10 <Forked> morning =) 09:49:22 <Ammler> example: http://cherokee/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/187271860388 09:49:35 * Forked compiles the latest drive through depots patch 09:51:04 <Ammler> (it worked before as I used the rss feed of cargodest...) 09:52:06 <racetrack> Forked: you're too fast :) 09:52:11 <racetrack> well, not _too_ 09:52:17 <Forked> it's done.. so good :p 09:52:23 <racetrack> hah 09:52:29 <racetrack> I have to be sure about it before I upload is all :P 09:52:47 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:50 <Forked> I can hold posting a win32 binary 09:53:06 <racetrack> no its good! I'm happy with the patch! 09:53:17 <racetrack> sorry, that came off the wrong way, and now I read back over it I'm not exactly sure what I meant 09:53:25 <Forked> :-) 09:53:39 <Forked> I have a topic reply notification on the thread :p 09:53:41 <racetrack> but its good that you do the builds, thank you :) 09:53:41 <racetrack> phew 09:53:49 <racetrack> haha 09:54:29 <racetrack> are you actually using the patch in-game, or just watching? 09:54:32 <racetrack> I need more feedback 09:54:37 <racetrack> particularly on road depots 09:55:14 <Forked> I havne't had any playtime lately.. work and we're in the "trying to buy a house" phase right now 09:55:50 <racetrack> yep, hear that 09:56:09 <racetrack> I poke at code on the bus, but don't really get any time to play. for us its work and "having another kid" :P 09:57:14 <Forked> but I really like the idea behind this patch and how much it will affect my gameplay when I do have time.. so I try to do something to help 09:57:39 <racetrack> I do appreciate that, thanks 09:58:01 <racetrack> hey devs, what's the criteria for getting a feature patch into trunk? 09:58:25 <petern> rule 1) don't ask questions like that 09:58:59 <racetrack> why is that? 09:59:16 <Yexo> rule 2) at least one dev has to like it enough to review the patch 09:59:20 <Forked> no bugs, codingstyle being correct and.. uh.. stuff.. :) 09:59:56 <Yexo> rule 3) it needs to add gameplay that fits openttd 10:00:20 <Yexo> rule 4) as Forked says, no bugs, correct codestyle 10:00:46 <racetrack> yeah I can guess at things like correct style, no bugs, enough testing, etc. mostly just looking to see if there's an official process or an ad-hoc one 10:01:07 <racetrack> Yexo: "gameplay that fits openttd" is that defined anywhere, or just based on the vibe of it from years of experience? 10:01:12 <racetrack> which would be totally cool 10:01:20 <Yexo> that's based on the feeling of the devs :p 10:01:37 <racetrack> yep makes sense 10:01:39 <Forked> rule 5) post the patch to flyspray? 10:01:53 <dihedral> racetrack, it's defined in the forums, see 'suggestions' :-D 10:02:16 <Yexo> but that means: no war themes at all, no major economic changes that only add economic gameplay, probably more 10:02:26 <racetrack> dihedral: ahh ok ... 10:02:26 <Yexo> Forked: that's not exactly necesary 10:02:41 <Yexo> it can help to get the attention of some devs though 10:02:44 <racetrack> Yexo: yeah the usual rule wherever you go .. "don't be an idiot" 10:03:15 <Yexo> racetrack: that sums it up pretty nicely :) 10:03:36 <Forked> orudge: thankyouthankyouthankyou for increased attachment file size limit :-) 10:03:38 <dihedral> Forked, the move patch development as of december never saw fs or forums 10:03:54 <racetrack> my intention was to finish the features, clear the last bugs, fix up the style bits that I haven't got around to, basically finish the patch, then post it to flyspray along with some kind of adhoc design/rationale for various decisions I made, and then wait 10:04:17 <dihedral> last *known bugs ;-) 10:04:18 <racetrack> and if no response after a few days I'd be prodding here 10:04:18 <racetrack> and go from there 10:04:18 <racetrack> sound reasonable? 10:04:23 <Forked> it was just a guess .. "to better capture the attention of someone who might ahve interest" :) 10:04:32 <racetrack> dihedral: of course ;) 10:04:33 <dihedral> racetrack, prodding here is counter productive 10:04:50 <Yexo> racetrack: that sounds good 10:04:54 <Yexo> dihedral: that's not always true 10:04:57 <dihedral> no ^^ 10:05:00 <dihedral> not always :-D 10:05:03 <racetrack> Yexo: thanks :) 10:05:20 <dihedral> Yexo, saying it's true will make him happy - he'll come back to you as soon as he thinks his patch is ready 10:05:28 <dihedral> and say... "but Yexo said..." 10:05:38 <racetrack> heh 10:05:43 <racetrack> see "don't be stupid" 10:05:49 <Yexo> if you have to it generally means there is no dev with a lot of interest (or you would have gotten a reply), so in that case some proddingmight be necesary 10:06:16 <dihedral> also true 10:07:06 <racetrack> I'm making a real effort to get all of the legwork out of the way first. I've been on the other side enough to know what would piss me off. in stuff I've been core dev for, if you hassle me with vague handwaving you get ignored pretty quick. if you poke me because I forgot to look at your incredibly detailed email with all the trimmings, then you get love and a thousand sorries 10:07:16 <racetrack> Yexo: yep, understood 10:08:09 <Noldo> why is it that I don't have time to code anymore :( 10:10:00 <Forked> hah 10:10:39 <Forked> dj nekkid talking about how I should be at work doing workstuff.. 10:11:37 <Yexo> racetrack: from a very quick scan your code looks ok, didn't spot any obvious codestyle issues, and you seem to have enough (and clear comments) 10:11:44 <Yexo> didn't read all the code though 10:12:08 <racetrack> Yexo: tells me I'm on the right track, cheers 10:12:09 <Yexo> oh, and you need to bump the savegame version because of a bump in trunk r15893) 10:12:23 <racetrack> whoops missed that one 10:12:30 <racetrack> Forked: see, told you you're too quick :) 10:12:31 <racetrack> thanks 10:12:33 * racetrack makes it so 10:12:43 <Forked> I'll tear it down and recompile :) 10:12:57 <Yexo> having said that, your patch is pretty big, and big patches = long time to review = needs to be more interesting before someone starts reviewing it 10:13:01 <racetrack> wait a sec till I get an update 10:13:19 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@main.sspbrno.cz] has joined #openttd 10:13:30 <racetrack> Yexo: yeah .. it can be broken it up a bit if necessary, I'd be writing about that in the design bit when it hits flyspray 10:14:23 <Yexo> my advise is: if you can break it up, do it know and maintain the patch as a patch queue (with whatever tool you like most for that) 10:14:31 <Yexo> s/know/now/ 10:14:48 <dihedral> ^^ 10:17:24 <racetrack> Forked: go for it 10:17:36 <racetrack> Yexo: ok I'll look into it 10:18:09 <petern> tip, don't ever pester the devs 10:18:22 <Forked> racetrack: 62a837265193c95ebe6647de359f43ba *drive-through-depots.r15905.diff ? (md5) 10:18:29 <petern> feel free to talk on channel about changes, improvements, etc, that you make, however. 10:19:30 <racetrack> Forked: yes 10:19:43 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 10:19:44 <Forked> goodie.. compiling ai/ai_instance.cpp 10:20:06 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:24 <racetrack> petern: by "don't pester" do you mean "don't even ask" or "don't follow them home and throw rocks at their window to get their attention"? 10:20:30 <racetrack> :) 10:20:40 <racetrack> if you mean don't get on at them, then sure 10:20:54 <racetrack> if you mean I can't even ask once other avenues are exhausted, then wtf? 10:22:12 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:22:24 <dihedral> racetrack, you'll find out if you pester them ^^ 10:22:32 <racetrack> :o 10:23:13 <dihedral> hehe 10:32:17 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@main.sspbrno.cz] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávánÃ. Odkudkoliv.] 10:36:22 *** luso [~luso@bl7-177-127.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 10:36:28 <luso> hello 10:36:44 <luso> many time a go i play in open ttd one version 10:37:01 <luso> that we can rent the train lines to the others competititors 10:37:13 <luso> someone know what is that version? 10:37:46 <Yexo> I have no idea which version you played, but it sounds like infrastructure sharing 10:37:50 <Yexo> there is a patch in the forums 10:38:15 <Yexo> or check #openttd.is <- Aali: that's the channel, right? 10:39:13 <luso> yes, that is infrastructure sharing 10:39:43 <luso> i had idea that is a version, not a patch... but had ben many time a go 10:39:50 <luso> i go serch in the forum 10:39:52 <luso> thanks 10:39:58 <Yexo> it was never in an official release 10:40:06 <luso> correct 10:40:09 <Yexo> patch/version, all the same 10:40:16 <luso> i remember that isnt a offical 10:41:02 <dihedral> wow - google seems to have improved it's translator :-D 10:41:14 <luso> true :) 10:41:53 <luso> ok, bye people 10:41:56 <luso> thanks 10:41:59 *** luso [~luso@bl7-177-127.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 10:45:44 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.128.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:48:39 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:54:54 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 11:09:13 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:44 *** pabmai [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:35 *** iambap [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:23 *** Alyr [~a4farmar@dsl4E5C5F62.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:30:23 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.128.223] has joined #openttd 11:31:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.146.254] has joined #openttd 11:37:15 *** Alyr [~a4farmar@dsl4E5C5F62.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 11:37:15 *** ecke [~ecke@195.113.128.223] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:40:43 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.37] has joined #openttd 11:40:56 * lobster_MB stumbles into #openttd bearing a question 11:42:06 <dihedral> spit it out 11:42:15 <dihedral> or does it take a minute to write? ^^ 11:42:33 <dihedral> if it does take you that long to write, perhaps forums or fs is a better idea :-D 11:44:12 <lobster_MB> sorry, was on the other Mac for a bit 11:44:41 <lobster_MB> i was wondering, how's this entire tar file thing working? 11:44:46 <lobster_MB> are they alike grf files? 11:45:18 <KenjiE20> tar = tarball = compression format (think .zip) 11:45:47 <KenjiE20> the grf is compressed inside it 11:45:57 <petern> argh 11:45:59 <petern> fucking hell 11:46:19 <petern> they really do think this unspecific job is a 5 minute 'done and dusted' set up :/ 11:46:48 <Forked> same thing as yesterday? 11:46:51 <FauxFaux> A very inefficient compression format. Guaranteed to be larger than the input. ¬_¬ 11:46:53 <petern> yeah 11:46:59 <petern> or whenever it was 11:47:06 <petern> i've been given some more information now 11:47:14 <lobster_MB> thanks, KenjiE20 11:47:19 <KenjiE20> np 11:47:22 <petern> basically an email from a colleague answering their questions about our API... 11:47:25 * lobster_MB looks into the 32bpp stuff 11:47:27 <petern> which is somehow the spec 11:47:34 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.37] has left #openttd [COCKBUSTER GO... GOING!] 11:47:53 <Forked> ..oki 11:48:15 <petern> of course 11:48:29 <petern> now i'll be in the shit for questioning them 11:50:03 <Aali> .tar is not a compression format 11:50:09 <Aali> its an archive format 11:51:02 <KenjiE20> oh, my bad 11:51:16 <Rubidium> for tapes ;) 11:51:50 <planetmaker> [13:46] <FauxFaux> A very inefficient compression format. Guaranteed to be larger than the input. ¬_¬ <-- tar is actually NO compression format. It's just concatening all files into one. 11:52:05 <planetmaker> doh... too slow ;) 11:52:22 <FauxFaux> Well done. :P 11:53:00 <planetmaker> the big difference is data security IMO :) 11:53:20 <planetmaker> broken bits in one place guarantee to not break another file within the archive. 11:54:23 <TinoDidriksen> If that's your concern, zip is better since it at least does CRC to detect such breakage. 11:56:02 <FauxFaux> There's many much smarter ways to deal with that problem. 11:56:43 <TinoDidriksen> Definitely. par2 is excellent. 11:56:43 <FauxFaux> Wikipedia: convolution code / block code, ways to add redundancy. 11:57:11 <FauxFaux> So you add 10% to your filesize, after removing 20% due to lzma compression, and still have far more redundancy than before. 11:57:47 <FauxFaux> *meeting* 11:59:25 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:59:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:01:40 *** ecke [~ecke@pc152-159.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 12:02:42 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@141.114.202.121] has joined #openttd 12:03:42 <dihedral> KenjiE20, tar does not have compression!!! 12:04:01 <dihedral> ^^ 12:04:20 <Rubidium> tar in OpenTTD isn't even about compression 12:04:37 <Rubidium> it's about easily and cheaply! accessing the file repeatedly 12:05:12 <dihedral> else it would not be simple tar ^^ 12:07:55 *** iambap [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 12:10:27 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:35 *** pabmai [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:10:53 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:29:06 *** iambap [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:33:58 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-244.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: no. just, no.] 12:36:01 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@141.114.202.121] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:42:07 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@141.114.202.121] has joined #openttd 12:45:33 <dihedral> Non-authoritative answer: 12:45:33 <dihedral> 121.202.114.141.in-addr.arpa name = john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu 12:45:35 <dihedral> HAHA 12:47:48 *** Hendikins|SRA412 is now known as Hendikins 12:47:53 <TinoDidriksen> But it's not 1-1, so the IRCd won't show that. 12:48:45 <dihedral> it is none the less quite amusing ^^ 12:48:49 <dihedral> at least to me ^^ 12:51:17 <dihedral> UFO64, you like Chris Brown? 12:51:56 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:49 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@sticky2.students.cs.uu.nl] has joined #openttd 12:54:50 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 12:54:56 <UFO64> pardon? 12:55:05 <UFO64> who is chris brown 12:56:18 <TinoDidriksen> Musician 12:58:30 <petern> urgh 12:58:32 <eQualizer> He likes to beat up other people 12:58:42 <petern> walked to shops 12:58:43 <petern> knackered 12:59:24 <dihedral> eQualizer, ?? 13:00:00 <eQualizer> Chris Brown 13:00:24 <dihedral> ah :-) 13:05:27 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 13:09:30 *** Frans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:12:56 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-33-3.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #openttd 13:13:34 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:14:09 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e180226130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:16:22 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:21:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176228099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:21:37 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:28:47 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@sticky2.students.cs.uu.nl] has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 13:33:02 <Belugas> hello 13:33:18 <Forked> greetings 13:36:28 <petern> pom te pom 13:36:31 <dihedral> hey Belugas 13:40:29 <Belugas> hello Forked, petern, dihedral as well as the silent mojority 13:40:34 <Belugas> lol 13:40:36 <Belugas> majority 13:40:55 <Belugas> mister mojo rising! 13:51:01 <FauxFaux> Mojitority. 13:51:11 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has joined #openttd 13:55:24 *** goodger_ [~ben@host86-150-195-25.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:57:44 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:32 *** Timitry [83dc24f1@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:02:00 <welshdragon> hmm 14:02:10 <welshdragon> new feature for 1.0.0: diagonal roads? 14:02:15 <welshdragon> :P 14:02:23 *** Carrot [~khh_1990@084202023089.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 14:06:25 *** Carrot [~khh_1990@084202023089.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:51 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 14:11:46 <Belugas> honestly? wow... 14:11:57 <Belugas> i was not aware you could code, welshdragon ;) 14:12:07 <Belugas> nor draw... by the way :D 14:12:14 <welshdragon> Belugas: i can dtraw 14:12:20 <welshdragon> *draw 14:12:31 <welshdragon> code i cannot 14:13:33 <TinoDidriksen> Proud of you, Yoda would be. 14:15:05 <welshdragon> hehe 14:17:15 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:18:52 <EoD> hm, openttd isn't ipv6 compatible 14:18:54 <EoD> Did someone try to make OpenTTD IPv6 compatible before? 14:19:16 <TinoDidriksen> Should be simple to do... 14:19:37 <Belugas> how easy it is to say that... 14:19:52 <Belugas> EoD, yes, somebody tried 14:19:58 <EoD> did it work? 14:20:15 <Belugas> SpComb did it , i think. no, i don't think it did 14:20:24 <EoD> where was the problem? 14:20:30 <Belugas> ask him 14:20:40 <Belugas> i'v got a very small memery 14:20:56 <EoD> ^^ i'll ask him if he comes online 14:21:16 <Belugas> or search on forums, i'm pretty sure it's where it happened 14:21:19 <Belugas> why, you can code? 14:21:23 <Belugas> you think you can do that? 14:21:31 <Belugas> and what wuld it brings to OpenTTD? 14:21:39 <Belugas> and i do not care, honestly 14:22:00 <EoD> i have a basic idea of coding; i don't really think i can do it, but i'll give it a try 14:22:31 <EoD> I have no IPv4 connection at the university, but IPv6 and we tried to play OpenTTD there ;) 14:22:58 <EoD> (i have only private ipv4 networks at the university, so no access from one computer to another or to "the outside") 14:23:38 <Rubidium> the major problem is that the masterserver isn't/won't be IPv6 capable in the near future 14:23:58 <EoD> why 14:24:00 <EoD> ? 14:24:01 <Rubidium> as the costs for IPv6 would be too high 14:24:10 <Rubidium> costs in financial terms 14:24:26 <EoD> Is this your own server? 14:24:40 <TinoDidriksen> You can tunnel ipv4 over ipv6, and inversely. Easy to get that set up. 14:24:41 <SpComb> EoD: it did work 14:24:42 <EoD> I can offer you IPv6 connectivity (for free of course) 14:25:00 <EoD> at least for testing 14:25:14 <EoD> SpComb: Do you have a working IPv6 copy of openttd? 14:25:30 <Rubidium> there's the problem... unreliability 14:25:34 <SpComb> uh, somewhere, and very outdated 14:25:41 <Rubidium> depending on external sources 14:25:56 <EoD> actually, depending on SixXS 14:27:40 <SpComb> hrmph, although it's actually on a host that's down 14:28:09 <glx> IPv4 is theorically accessible with IPv6 IIRC 14:28:16 <SpComb> EoD: implementing the basic IPv6 stuff wasn't that difficult, but that was just the first 10%, the rest of it was harder 14:29:08 <glx> else you couldn't browse the net ;) 14:29:28 <SpComb> it wouldn't be too hard to support IPv6 addresses for e.g. `openttd -n`, you'd just need to modify the address-parsing function, and replace gethostbyname/socket/connect with getaddrinfo/socket/connect in one or two places 14:29:34 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet604.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:29:54 <SpComb> but once you start looking at the network server list stuff, either LAN or Internet, it becomes a lot more difficult 14:30:18 <EoD> glx: We have a private 192.168.1.0/24 net and we access the internet trought a NAT. We also have IPv6 which goes directly to the www without any filtering software in between 14:30:29 <SpComb> http://misc.marttila.de/wiki/OpenTTD_IPv6 14:30:54 <SpComb> it even has some basic win32 support 14:31:02 <SpComb> but it's nigh on a year old 14:31:21 <welshdragon> EoD: is this a uk univiersity? 14:31:32 <dihedral> <EoD> glx: We have a private 192.168.1.0/24 net <- you do? oh!!! i want one too :-( 14:31:33 <dihedral> ^^ 14:31:38 <EoD> welshdragon: germany 14:31:47 <EoD> ^^ 14:31:53 <welshdragon> EoD: hmm, they technically should allow it 14:32:15 <welshdragon> do they use a proxy for ipv4? 14:32:22 <EoD> welshdragon: I'm one of the admins, there and i'm sure they are not :) 14:32:27 <dihedral> EoD, can you host a server? ^^ 14:32:50 <EoD> a private server? I don't think so ;) 14:32:56 <dihedral> what a shame 14:33:00 <welshdragon> EoD: it doesn't matter, i can access network games at my university fine 14:33:03 <dihedral> would only be 1u :-P 14:33:10 <EoD> lol 14:33:25 <EoD> I think we have only about 4u left 14:33:32 <dihedral> see - it'd work 14:33:56 <EoD> SpComb: I'll have a look at the code. May i ask you some questions if i have some? 14:34:31 <EoD> until someone else requests those 4u officially ;) 14:38:09 <EoD> "Sorry, but we have only 3u left. I have absolutely no idea which server this is..." :-D 14:39:52 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 14:44:04 <Rubidium> just wire it to as many switches as you can and make it look like it's old and running an arcane OS 14:44:22 <Rubidium> then 'it must be important, so we better not touch it' 14:44:39 <Aali> and plenty of blinkenlights! 14:45:26 <Aali> so, when are we getting IPX support in openttd? 14:45:28 <Aali> :P 14:45:38 <EoD> There is only a small switch in our server room. The switches are on another floor and controlled by the LRZ (leibniz supercomputing centre)... I 14:46:06 <EoD> I'm just a small and unimportant admin around there ;) 14:46:54 <petern> http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6513/sexsells550x424.jpg 14:48:43 <glx> lol 14:49:13 <planetmaker> lol 14:49:38 <planetmaker> like a quick guide to "how to make 4 people quite unhappy" ;) 14:51:22 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@141.114.202.121] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:54:24 *** ecke [~ecke@pc152-159.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 14:54:40 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 14:55:25 *** Splex_ [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:48 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@john-michael-murray.um.maine.edu] has quit [] 15:00:18 *** George3 is now known as George 15:01:15 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:02:49 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 15:03:58 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 15:04:51 *** const86 [const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 15:14:10 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 15:16:00 <Belugas> Ho JOY! 15:16:07 <Belugas> my vacations dates are accepted!! 15:16:28 <Belugas> fom the 10th to the 17th, i'll be off :D 15:17:28 *** Carrot [~khh_1990@084202023089.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 15:18:17 *** Carrot [~khh_1990@084202023089.customer.alfanett.no] has left #openttd [] 15:20:40 <Rubidium> 10th of April till the 17th of December? That's be joyful 15:21:00 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 15:21:44 <goodger_> welshdragon: wb 15:21:52 *** goodger_ is now known as goodger 15:22:00 <welshdragon> goodger: thanks 15:23:29 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 15:27:52 <Belugas> indeed, Rubidium, indeed... alas... just one week 15:28:04 <petern> urghle 15:28:12 <petern> why did i bother looking at buildottd's source 15:28:14 <petern> it's ugly 15:28:24 <Belugas> that's just a leftover from my vacation pool 15:29:29 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 15:29:34 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:03 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:23 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0E8DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:36:06 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:14 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:40:36 <welshdragon> grr. my rv's aren't replacing (0.7.0 rc2) 15:41:02 <glx> autorenew or autoreplace? 15:41:12 <welshdragon> they have got old, i told them to autorenew to different models and they haven't. 15:41:35 <glx> do you play with breakdowns off? 15:41:47 <welshdragon> yes..... 15:41:52 <welshdragon> i'll activate thenm :P 15:41:57 <glx> how is "no service if breakdowns are off"? 15:42:06 <welshdragon> set to on 15:42:15 <welshdragon> erm 15:42:35 <welshdragon> set to 'service if breakdowns are on' 15:43:03 *** Yexo__ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 15:43:29 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:44:40 *** vany_87 [~vany_87@88.82.108.171] has joined #openttd 15:44:59 <vany_87> hoi 15:45:21 <welshdragon> hello vany_87 15:45:43 <vany_87> can i write german?! 15:46:45 <glx> not here 15:47:05 *** Yexo__ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47:21 *** Yexo__ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 15:47:52 <vany_87> ok 15:48:01 <vany_87> my english is not so good. 15:48:08 <vany_87> but i have 1 question. 15:48:56 <vany_87> openttd is only for the transport tycoon deluxe?! or are work at other games from tycoon?! 15:48:57 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:49:03 <KingJ> Only for TTD 15:49:10 *** neli [micha@88.159.210.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:47 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:02 <vany_87> Àh sry.. i mean the prog-team, 15:50:19 <vany_87> are they work at other projects?! 15:50:28 <vany_87> not the game sry. 15:50:36 <glx> welshdragon: so this setting is off 15:50:49 <welshdragon> glx: yes 15:52:11 <vany_87> does anyone know the game rollercoaster?? 15:52:17 <vany_87> from tycoon 15:52:32 <welshdragon> vany_87: yes, but nobody here develops for it 15:52:41 <vany_87> ok.. thx. 15:52:47 <KingJ> Yes, but I don't think there are any plans to make an Open Rollercoaster Tycoon - it's a completely different engine and game type :P 15:53:30 <vany_87> i know.. 15:53:55 <vany_87> what a shame.. i love this game.. 15:54:20 *** neli [micha@88.159.210.43] has joined #openttd 15:54:30 <Rubidium> actually rollercoaster tycoon (1) is more like TTD than Locomotion is like TTD (game engine wise) 15:54:39 <vany_87> i have an old cd. but it doesn't work. and i can't never find an alternative 15:55:12 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:55:14 <petern> dosbox 15:55:20 <Rubidium> install windows 98 and try to install it there 15:55:36 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp68-77.vpn.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:55:37 <welshdragon> vany_87: erm, sorry, we can't help, is it the original game? 15:55:38 <vany_87> no thats not the problem ;) 15:56:19 <vany_87> which original game? @welsh 15:56:20 <glx> if you have the original cd you can try to get a backup version 15:56:52 <welshdragon> vany_87: erm, rollercoaster tycoon? 15:57:00 <vany_87> yes 15:57:10 <vany_87> hm ok.. 15:57:22 <welshdragon> is your disk scratched? 15:57:50 <vany_87> yes it is.. 15:57:58 <vany_87> so i can install new.. 15:58:14 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp68-77.vpn.muni.cz] has quit [] 15:59:20 <welshdragon> vany_87: take it to a shop, they can reoair it for about 5 - 10 euros 15:59:43 <vany_87> in which shop a normaly shop?! 16:00:06 <welshdragon> a pc games shop 16:00:15 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 16:00:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3191.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:56 <vany_87> ok i'm trying.. 16:01:13 <vany_87> thx for your help.. 16:02:05 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.33] has joined #openttd 16:02:12 <welshdragon> glx: so is it a bug? 16:02:55 <glx> is the vehicle type still available? Do you have enough money? 16:03:08 <glx> many possible reasons :) 16:03:52 <welshdragon> glx: yes, it's still available, and i have £10m+ 16:04:27 <glx> maybe it's your layout then 16:05:11 <welshdragon> the depot is easily acceesible 16:05:33 <welshdragon> (being Road Vehicles) 16:05:54 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp55-46.vpn.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:07:02 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:08:09 <petern> * When an exception is raised, it is caught and then thrown again. 16:08:09 <petern> * This is an example of selfdocumenting code saying: 16:08:09 <petern> * It's not a bug, it's a feature. 16:08:09 <petern> * It also keeps annoying breaks out of my debugger ;) 16:08:09 <petern> */ 16:08:12 <petern> catch (Exception) { 16:08:14 <petern> throw; 16:08:17 <petern> } 16:08:21 <petern> le sigh 16:08:29 <petern> oh well, at least it's not my code 16:09:39 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp55-46.vpn.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:22 *** thingwath [~thingwath@dhcp-59-230.eduroam.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 16:10:51 <welshdragon> glx: problem solved 16:11:04 <glx> how? 16:11:27 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: "Akiramenaide!"] 16:12:07 *** vany_87 [~vany_87@88.82.108.171] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 16:12:23 <welshdragon> i was clicking on the greyed out buses 16:12:27 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet604.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:13:14 <glx> <welshdragon> they have got old, i told them to autorenew to different models and they haven't. <-- hmm that's autoreplace indeed 16:13:37 <glx> and autoreplace is not affected by servicing 16:16:52 <welshdragon> hehe 16:17:11 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet604.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:03 <welshdragon> can i request a small feature? towns don't build bridges, and you can add a boundary that your cities do not grow over? 16:19:16 <welshdragon> my towns have merged into one big city :( 16:23:08 *** thingwath [~thingwath@dhcp-59-230.eduroam.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 16:29:15 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 16:33:51 <petern> you can build that boundary 16:34:13 <welshdragon> petern: how? 16:35:26 <Belugas> diagonal rails, owned land, stations.... lottsa stuff 16:35:46 <Rubidium> well places big UFOs 16:36:32 <Belugas> :D 16:36:33 <Ammler> disable town roads and build them self 16:38:08 <welshdragon> tried that 16:39:04 <welshdragon> the scenario had already connected all cities, so they just grew along the 'motorways' 16:50:22 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:40 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:27 *** Yexo__ is now known as Yexo 16:59:54 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 17:14:07 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:18:52 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CBAE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:27:19 <Noldo> hmm, trunk won't compile on debian lenny 17:27:44 <Noldo> unknown pragma in lang file 17:28:15 <Rubidium> then your lenny is broken I'd reckon 17:28:49 <Rubidium> (compiles fine on my lenny) 17:29:17 <glx> (and strgen generates this error) 17:29:21 <Rubidium> sounds more like a 'broken' makedepend 17:29:36 <Rubidium> or make getting messed up over time changes 17:32:31 <Noldo> make clean and retry won't help :/ 17:33:04 <Rubidium> try svn revert 17:33:23 <glx> and check the error log 17:36:27 <Noldo> fresh checkout helped 17:39:40 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:46:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r15906 /trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Completed widget number enum of world-generation windows. 17:51:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.223.183] has joined #openttd 17:57:36 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.192.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:50 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-33-3.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009030713]] 18:19:02 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-33-3.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #openttd 18:29:23 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-33-3.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009030713]] 18:32:08 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:36:29 <petern> hahah 18:36:41 <petern> AI writers! fear the wrath of SirkoZ! 18:42:22 <Noldo> I never quite understood where that 60% magic line comes from 18:46:01 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-33-3.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #openttd 18:46:42 <Yexo> most likely because ni the early years (with slow vehicles) the maximum rating (without statue or advertising) is +-67% 18:47:15 <frosch123> does sirkoz also have that switch? 18:49:46 <frosch123> I would like an ai that monitors the magic bulldozer, and if it becomed enabled, bulldozes everything 18:51:53 <petern> :D 18:57:19 <Sacro> /me would like to stick frosch123 in a bucket and leave him 18:58:08 <frosch123> nice, so you won't highlight me in there? 19:02:39 <Belugas> what an incredibly pretentious little ... 19:02:44 <Belugas> whatever... 19:03:19 <petern> shit 19:03:45 <Belugas> yeah 19:04:42 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 19:10:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:10 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 19:25:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.161.39] has joined #openttd 19:30:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.161.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:30:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.161.39] has joined #openttd 19:31:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.223.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:32 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5CBAE.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:42:54 <welshdragon> Sacro: your /me at 7:57 failed :P 19:43:18 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 19:43:55 <Sacro> Yep 19:44:25 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.33] has joined #openttd 19:48:17 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:50 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:15 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest998 19:52:15 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.48.35] has joined #openttd 19:55:45 *** Guest998 [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:03:25 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:04:20 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:35 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:35 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 20:07:30 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.48.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:27 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-25-198.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:17:26 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:18:07 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: >:3] 20:22:10 <el_en> http://logout.hu/iras/egy_elfuseralt_hutesi_kiserlet_3_resz.html 20:22:30 * Belugas goes to sleep. night all 20:22:37 <Rubidium> night Belugas 20:22:45 <Belugas> and please... crush that sirkoz to the ground! 20:22:48 <Belugas> night Rubidium 20:22:51 * Belugas is gone 20:40:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:48:06 <welshdragon> ok, where can i find the openttd grf's file on OSX? 20:48:18 * welshdragon has looked under /library 20:48:23 <Rubidium> do not read the do not read me 20:48:26 <Ammler> read the readme 20:48:31 <Ammler> :-) 20:48:33 <welshdragon> hmm 20:51:05 <welshdragon> danke 20:53:58 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 20:54:03 <welshdragon> hmm, is the uk roadset compatible with openttd? 20:54:14 * welshdragon downloaded it off grfcrawler 20:54:48 <Ammler> tell us the error you get :-) 20:55:05 <welshdragon> no error, it can't be found in - game 20:55:18 <Rubidium> anyone in here with a 64 bits OSX? 20:55:32 <welshdragon> Rubidium: erm...... 20:55:35 * welshdragon checks 20:55:49 *** helb_ is now known as helb 20:57:23 <Sacro> hm? 20:57:39 <Ammler> Rubidium: the patch to desync c&p users availabe? 20:58:06 <Rubidium> Ammler: it's called the c&p patch 20:58:31 <Ammler> he? 20:58:50 <Ammler> you mean, if we would patch the server with, they would desync? 20:58:51 <Rubidium> where do you have c&p-ers? 20:59:07 <Rubidium> no, you don't need to modify the server to make them desync 20:59:29 <petern> :D 21:00:01 <Rubidium> just need to appropriately modify a client binary to send the right commands 21:00:14 <Rubidium> one such binaries is the c&p binary 21:03:34 <Noldo> what does it take? 21:05:20 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:57 * dihedral would prefer killing a bunch of the servers in the server list :-D 21:12:40 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:16:55 *** scoz [~scoz@host-220-96.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #openttd 21:22:14 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:22:28 <Ammler> I guess, there is no up2date c&p-patch, so it was a wrong assumption 21:22:37 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEeeaa.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 21:22:55 <fonsinchen> hi 21:26:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:57 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 21:33:47 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:44 *** eeee [Mr@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff81c000-247.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:39:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3191.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:55 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:58:11 *** eeee [Mr@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff81c000-247.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:07:18 <fonsinchen> can I load an AI for an existing company that was previously played by myself? 22:07:39 <Yexo> no 22:08:37 <fonsinchen> can I somehow transfer all my stuff to another company that is owned by an AI? Why doesn't switching to the AI company via cheat and trying to buy myself out work? 22:10:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e180226130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 22:11:23 <Yexo> the only way is switching via the cheat and buying the other company 22:11:54 <Yexo> for why it doesn't work there might be several reasons: how old is the company you want to buy? Have you enabled buying shares? 22:12:57 <fonsinchen> I have. I can buy 75% but not more 22:14:26 <fonsinchen> The other way round, however, I can buy all of the AI company when playing as my old company. 22:14:32 <fonsinchen> very strange 22:14:51 <Yexo> do you get any error message? Or is the buy button just greyed out? 22:15:24 <fonsinchen> it's greyed out 22:15:36 <fonsinchen> no matter how much money I get (via cheat) 22:17:53 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 22:18:07 <glx> company 0 is protected on single player 22:18:25 <glx> if it goes bankrupt, the game ends 22:20:10 <fonsinchen> shit 22:20:19 <fonsinchen> no way around that, I guess? 22:21:05 <fonsinchen> I could load it in multiplayer, have company 0 bought out by company 1, then start a new company 0 and then reload in single player 22:21:09 <fonsinchen> would that work? 22:21:53 <glx> probably 22:22:22 <glx> but better do it with a dedicated server I think 22:22:47 <glx> hmm in multiplayer you can't buy other companies 22:25:11 <Yexo> it wouldn't work anyway, since in multiplaye ryou can't join an AI company and neither can you use the cheat to switch to it 22:25:40 <fonsinchen> yes, I found out 22:25:55 <fonsinchen> however, it shouldn't tell me that this is a protocol error ... 22:26:31 <fonsinchen> ok, bad luck I guess 22:26:40 *** thingwath [~thingwath@comp68-9.vpn.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:26:48 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet604.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:57 <Yexo> the join company button should be greyed out for AI companies 22:27:05 <fonsinchen> it isn't 22:27:19 <fonsinchen> I tried to join the AI company and got a protocol error 22:27:31 <fonsinchen> then I tried to join my original company and it worked 22:30:28 <fonsinchen> how do I send money to other companies in multiplayer (or is that possible at all?) 22:31:17 <glx> client menu (in company list dropdown) 22:34:12 <fonsinchen> oh, another funny bug: the money doubles while being transferred 22:34:42 <Yexo> are you sure you're using the same currency on both clients? 22:35:47 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:40 <fonsinchen> you can have different currencies on the clients? 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