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00:00:38 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-155-59.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 00:06:44 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEdea8.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:12:52 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:15:00 *** MapperOG_ [~mirrakor@p57B2DC4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:21:57 *** MapperOG [~mirrakor@p57B2DFB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:30:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80A14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 00:43:16 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d478:810a:3f14:be59] has joined #openttd 00:43:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 00:43:16 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d478:810a:3f14:be59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:48 <MapperOG_> can I move a vehicle from one depo to another? 01:00:33 <SmatZ> no 01:01:17 <glx_> well you can give it orders to do so :) 01:01:25 <SmatZ> it would be very easy to cheat this way ;) 01:01:32 <SmatZ> as in locomotion :-p 01:02:13 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 01:05:42 *** flexd [~flexd@127.79-160-12.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 01:10:19 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 01:10:20 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:17 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 01:17:04 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051160154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 01:27:09 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 01:27:09 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:14 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-52-122.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:31:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.217.2] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 01:36:47 <MapperOG_> what use do I have, if I buy someone elses stock? 01:55:09 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has left #openttd [] 01:56:40 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:10 <SmatZ> MapperOG_: you can sell it later for more than you bought it 01:57:21 <SmatZ> it, if it's AI, you can buy 100% of the company 01:57:28 <SmatZ> and merge it with your company... 02:01:19 <subzero22> hello 02:02:17 <subzero22> I was wondering you know on some servers you can type !goal? I was wanting to know what I need or how I can do something like that but fur !rules instead. to show the server rules 02:06:42 *** MapperOG_ [~mirrakor@p57B2DC4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:11:35 <glx_> subzero22: ask the admin of these servers, as they probably use a modified version 02:38:47 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:39:58 <KenjiE20|LT> @wiki Autopilot 02:40:16 <KenjiE20|LT> oh coops gone 02:40:21 <KenjiE20|LT> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autopilot 02:40:49 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:41:09 <KenjiE20|LT> oh wait, I'm blind 02:41:25 <KenjiE20|LT> I'll see myself out :P 02:49:06 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-155-59.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:53:09 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-155-59.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 03:01:56 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-52-122.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:08:20 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 03:08:42 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:11:12 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet573.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12:52 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:23:54 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d478:810a:3f14:be59] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:39:11 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:53 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:43:36 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 05:04:42 *** subzero22 [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 05:07:18 *** subzero22 [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 05:10:40 *** subzero22 [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 05:23:17 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:26:09 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 06:30:32 *** Synergy [~synergize@c-75-73-225-141.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:31:37 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 06:35:53 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm246.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:53:58 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:06 <Darkvater> so, who's awake? 07:15:21 <petern> lol 07:15:22 *** Synergy [~synergize@c-75-73-225-141.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:28 <petern> good ol' sirkoz 07:15:37 <Darkvater> hi petern, not lookin' for you :) 07:15:39 <petern> they not 'sirkoz's vehicle names' 07:15:51 <Darkvater> did I read correctly that you wanted a username change on the forums? 07:15:51 <petern> they're 'better vehicle names' 07:15:57 <petern> idiot :D@ 07:16:04 <petern> Darkvater, who knows! 07:16:09 <Darkvater> :O 07:16:25 <Darkvater> ping frosch Rubidium 07:16:27 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:16:29 <petern> also 07:16:34 <petern> i'm not wanted :( 07:16:37 <petern> boo 07:16:46 * Darkvater hugs petern 07:23:56 * goodger hugs petern and Darkvater 07:24:05 <Darkvater> eeek! 07:24:11 * jonty-comp sneezes on petern 07:24:43 <goodger> petern: a link to the above idiot? 07:27:12 <Forked> heh it's sort of funny.. nekomaster starts a discussion about future trains and the discussion is mostly about what colours he used in his post :) 07:27:42 <goodger> how unpleasant 07:27:47 <petern> no specific link 07:41:40 <TrueBrain> morning all 07:42:21 <Forked> greetings, sir TB 07:42:50 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 07:43:23 <goodger> hmm, how irritating. a Swede has just emailed my company threatening to refer a matter of a delayed order to the Swedish police force 07:45:52 <planetmaker> hehe :P 07:46:06 <planetmaker> darn. I meant "good morning" :) 07:46:18 <TrueBrain> YOU FAILED! 07:46:25 <petern> goodger, and they'll tell him to piss off :D 07:46:26 <planetmaker> nasty that xchat has a seperate history for each channel :) 07:46:37 <goodger> petern: I said something... vaguely similar to that... 07:47:07 * petern remembers the guy who was going to go the US Postal Office to start legal proceedings... 07:47:13 <petern> idiots :D 07:47:25 <goodger> uh, actually, the USPS has considerable legal clout 07:47:28 <dihedral> hello lads :-) 07:47:31 <goodger> but only within the US :P 07:47:38 * dihedral greets the TrueBrain 07:47:47 * TrueBrain smells something funny 07:47:49 <TrueBrain> oh, hi dihedral! :) 07:47:54 <goodger> "please note my bewilderment at the implication that the Swedish police force are relevant [to this matter] in any way. are you accusing me or one of my staff of performing a criminal act in Sweden?" 07:48:48 <goodger> hello dihedral, how's the coffee? 07:49:14 <dihedral> yummy :-) 07:49:35 <petern> oh yes, i need to take tea in to work 07:49:40 <petern> we've run out in the office :s 07:49:50 <goodger> the USPS has an entire department dedicated to combating postal fraud 07:49:53 <TrueBrain> petern: you should do your job better 07:50:12 <goodger> as a government department it has a lot of law-enforcement power 07:50:30 * petern decides to take half a pack 07:50:37 <petern> someone's bound to pinch them :/ 07:50:57 <goodger> petern works with tossers :3 07:50:59 <petern> goodger, yeah, but it was nothing to do with post, heh 07:51:12 <TrueBrain> 7z can't read .bin files :( 07:57:42 *** Synergy [~synergize@c-75-73-225-141.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:07:12 * dihedral will extend the wiki a bit :-) 08:08:08 <TrueBrain> 1 bit? :) hihi! 08:08:09 * TrueBrain hugs dihedral 08:08:28 <dihedral> lol 08:08:42 <goodger> and another annoying customer 08:08:43 <dihedral> i would be real good if i could increase the wiki size by 1 bit :-P 08:08:59 <goodger> "If I had a detailed experience of the interactions of transatlantic ports and the various continental European postal systems, including your local sorting office and individual postman, it might be possible to supply you with a less vague estimate" 08:09:10 <TrueBrain> k, I am really out of here; have a good weekend all! 08:09:17 <goodger> bye TrueBrain 08:16:37 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 08:22:32 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D7CA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:38:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B76B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:44:07 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has joined #openttd 08:48:33 <dihedral> can someone of the wiki admins delete http://wiki.openttd.org/Image:Move_pectate.png 08:48:36 <dihedral> ^^ 08:48:39 <dihedral> has a type :-P 09:00:52 <dihedral> petern, http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=43192 09:01:42 <dihedral> comic style /me likes ^^ 09:01:55 <jonty-comp> WOO 09:02:00 <jonty-comp> I have wanted this for a long time 09:02:30 <dihedral> petern has also done some commic style stuff :-) 09:03:01 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEdea8.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:03:15 <jonty-comp> I had a vague go at making a comic-style landscape once, but it looked rubbish 09:03:19 <jonty-comp> woo woo woo 09:03:22 <jonty-comp> this makes jonty-comp happy 09:04:13 <dihedral> hehe 09:04:40 <dihedral> Bennythen00b: "If there is a rock you can't lift, you better leave it." 09:04:44 <dihedral> lol! 09:04:58 <dihedral> no wonder :-P 09:05:16 <jonty-comp> heh 09:05:34 <petern> yes, well 09:05:35 <dihedral> some people could have done with that quote however 09:05:40 <dihedral> e.g. alain :-D 09:05:48 <petern> my comic style stuff looks shit ;p 09:05:54 <jonty-comp> alain could just do with a ban hammer 09:05:55 <jonty-comp> :p 09:05:59 <petern> bum hammer 09:06:01 <dihedral> petern, not all of it :-P 09:06:13 <jonty-comp> I wonder whether it's worth making this all 32bpp 09:06:14 <dihedral> jonty-comp, long time ago yes 09:06:21 <jonty-comp> I mean, comic stuff can't look that different in 8bpp 09:06:27 <dihedral> why 32bpp? 09:06:34 <jonty-comp> they're 32bpp graphics 09:06:41 <dihedral> ah 09:06:51 <dihedral> well - either way - looks awesome :-D 09:07:02 <dihedral> i loved the brick land stuff too... but that's kinda stalled 09:07:09 <jonty-comp> I guess the only part that could cause trouble is the dithering caused by the scaling from 96x96 09:07:18 <jonty-comp> brick land was awesome :D 09:07:50 <jonty-comp> the only thing I don't like in simutrans pak96 comic is the rails and roads 09:09:44 <petern> anyway, i started with 32bpp cos we could do with a complete 32bpp set :p 09:10:01 <petern> one that isn't full of shit like 800x magnification 09:10:31 <jonty-comp> yes 09:10:40 <jonty-comp> the current one, to be honest, looks quite rubbish in many places 09:10:49 <jonty-comp> all the graphics are different styles 09:13:18 <dihedral> yep 09:13:21 * dihedral nods 09:15:44 <planetmaker> :) I guess if a complete set of 32bpp graphics like the comic comes available I then really should start to look at that closer, too :) The comic style is just awesome. 09:18:29 *** wision_ [1009@193.19.177.35] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 09:31:31 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 09:44:52 <dihedral> planetmaker, would make me play a bit too :-P 09:46:25 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0DFE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:52 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:05:52 *** Joachim_A [~joachim@244.81-166-176.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 10:06:22 <Joachim_A> has anyone compiled the last revision of the aircraft queue patch on gcc? 10:08:18 <Rubidium> if no one has it's certainly not an often used patch 10:11:04 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051160154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:13:23 <Joachim_A> probably wasn't... 10:14:18 <Joachim_A> http://pastebin.com/m20e13da4 10:14:29 <Joachim_A> does this look like it's msvc specific? 10:14:41 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.149.254.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 10:14:48 <Joachim_A> getting errors on the template classes 10:16:57 * jonty-comp wonders where pngcodec is 10:17:08 <Rubidium> openttd.org/download-pngcodec ? 10:17:10 <jonty-comp> ah 10:17:15 <Rubidium> or just in the subversion repository 10:17:22 <jonty-comp> then the links in the first post of the pngcodec topic are wrong! 10:17:25 <Rubidium> under /extra/pngcodec or so 10:17:37 <jonty-comp> they say nightly.openttd.org/pngcodec, which doesn't exist 10:18:19 <Rubidium> Joachim_A: doesn't look MSVC specific at first glance 10:19:15 <Rubidium> it looks like a mess though 10:24:51 <Joachim_A> ok, thanks 10:26:21 <Joachim_A> http://pastebin.com/m637fb79c 10:26:28 <Joachim_A> these are the errors 10:28:55 * jonty-comp goes to find out how to do sprite replacements with the png files but without a grf file 10:29:20 <jonty-comp> which this person seems to have done, but there isn't anything immediately obvious saying how 10:29:22 <Rubidium> jonty-comp: you can't 10:29:23 * jonty-comp wikiiiis 10:29:39 <Rubidium> you always have to override a (new)grf 10:29:53 <jonty-comp> that's what I mean 10:29:53 <Rubidium> even though those can be the base grfs 10:30:34 <jonty-comp> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=36474 <-- like the tar there, that just has 'sprites/trg1r/<spritenumber>_z0.png' 10:30:46 <jonty-comp> I'm assuming it's just the same as that 10:30:52 <Rubidium> yup 10:30:53 <jonty-comp> the only way is to test it, I suppose :o 10:31:10 <Rubidium> it doesn't need to be in a tar though 10:31:11 <jonty-comp> is the z0 to do with zoom levels? 10:31:16 <jonty-comp> oh, good 10:31:44 <Rubidium> yes, z0 is the default zoom level 10:31:50 * jonty-comp gets his pngcodec out then 10:32:33 <Rubidium> Joachim_A: no idea why your gcc doesn't like it 10:34:17 <Joachim_A> ok, thanks for having a look 10:39:17 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 10:41:05 <petern> yarr, sprites/trg1r/<number>.png 10:41:37 <jonty-comp> fnarr 10:42:19 * jonty-comp has lost his trg1r.bmp with all the sprite numbers in :( 10:42:26 * jonty-comp will have to decode the grf again, boo 10:56:07 <jonty-comp> woo, a graphic 10:56:09 * jonty-comp dances 10:57:50 <petern> :D 10:57:58 <petern> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/hg.cgi/comic32.hg/ < my shit 10:58:12 * jonty-comp hgs petern 10:58:13 <Forked> ew.. 10:59:53 <jonty-comp> oh good, I don't have to reload the whole game to update changes 11:30:49 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 11:32:29 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 11:36:12 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 11:46:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:50:40 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:56:37 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.149.254.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:54 *** weasel [~weasel@weasel.noc.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:09 * Forked didn't do it 12:00:32 <weasel> that's what they all say. 12:01:27 <Forked> :-) 12:07:08 <dihedral> ^^ 12:07:31 <dihedral> you dont visit very often weasel ^^ 12:07:43 <dihedral> but nice to see that you do ^^ 12:08:42 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Quit: edgepro: There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on.] 12:09:13 * weasel just installed 0.7.0 :) 12:10:19 <dihedral> \o/ 12:10:23 <dihedral> why a stable :-P 12:10:25 <dihedral> hehe 12:10:32 <dihedral> there's nightly builds also :-D 12:10:39 <weasel> pah 12:10:44 <dihedral> they rock :-P 12:10:45 <jonty-comp> with such exciting things as... ipv6 12:10:50 <jonty-comp> and that's about it so far 12:10:58 <dihedral> so far 12:11:13 <weasel> I noticed the wiki is on v6 :) 12:11:43 <dihedral> i extended the multiplayer documentation today ^^ 12:11:55 <jonty-comp> well, TrueBrain decided to put the openttd server on v6 and all of a sudden everybody decided to jump on the bandwagon 12:12:15 <dihedral> ^^ 12:12:19 <jonty-comp> now tt-forums is v6, OpenTTD itself is v6-aware, and lots more 12:12:24 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has joined #openttd 12:12:39 <jonty-comp> we're always at the cutting edge here 12:13:01 <Forked> next up.. built in irc client that connects to this channel? 12:13:28 <dihedral> Forked, ap 12:13:36 <dihedral> and i would not connect it to this channel 12:13:45 <dihedral> and we are working on a complete rewrite 12:13:55 <jonty-comp> you would need an #openttd.sanepeople 12:13:59 <dihedral> so then you have autopilot ap+ and avignon 12:14:02 <Forked> ap is more of a remote admin tool? I was thinking a pure client that the player use ;) 12:14:19 <dihedral> Forked, an ascii client :-D 12:14:21 <dihedral> hehe 12:14:39 <dihedral> well, ap also bridges chat between the game and irc 12:14:42 <Forked> might bring more players in here =p that might be either good and/or bad 12:14:58 <dihedral> i'd underline the /bad/ ;-) 12:15:03 <jonty-comp> we'll just end up sending them to #debian 12:15:03 <jonty-comp> :P 12:15:25 <dihedral> LOL 12:15:42 <dihedral> shhht... we have a weasel in here! 12:15:45 <dihedral> ^^ 12:15:46 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.104.32] has joined #openttd 12:15:48 <jonty-comp> better still, just make openttd connect to #debian in the first place 12:15:52 * jonty-comp runs away 12:15:59 <dihedral> go get him!! 12:16:04 <Xaroth> lol 12:16:17 <Forked> #openttd.playing 12:16:17 <Forked> :\ 12:16:35 <dihedral> Forked, #openttd.nightly :-P 12:16:44 <Forked> first bug might be ap-like control with no password protection 12:16:45 <Xaroth> that would actually be fun tho, interconnect all openttd servers with an ircd 12:16:48 <Xaroth> the chaos xD 12:17:11 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1455:68c0:e384:8b90] has joined #openttd 12:17:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:17:18 <dihedral> Xaroth, i once had 3 servers connected to the same irc channel with ap+ 12:17:29 <Xaroth> yeh, that be chaos :/ 12:17:29 <dihedral> which allowed all 3 servers to chat with eachother :-D 12:17:35 <dihedral> not really 12:17:36 <jonty-comp> :O 12:17:44 <dihedral> just could not ignore them :-D 12:17:51 <Xaroth> hehe 12:18:04 <Xaroth> btw made some changes to the concept of AutoTTD. 12:18:08 * weasel decides he likes PBSs 12:18:12 <dihedral> and sending one command to ap+ made all 3 servers reply :-D 12:18:24 <Xaroth> will probably mean more diversity for serveradmins 12:18:38 <weasel> except when sometimes trains decide they are stuck waiting 12:18:42 <dihedral> well... you'd idealy change the command char 12:18:53 <dihedral> so one server replies to !commands the other to ~commands 12:19:04 <Xaroth> there's no fun in that 12:19:04 <dihedral> weasel, hehe 12:19:15 <dihedral> http://wiki.openttd.org/Multiplayer#Moving_Between_Companies :-) 12:19:36 <weasel> there's a bug in there somewhere :) 12:19:58 <dihedral> there always it :-D 12:20:34 <dihedral> hehe - my smiley has a nose... my smiley is more...... realistic :-D 12:20:52 <jonty-comp> pfft 12:21:06 <jonty-comp> yours just has a very long face 12:21:15 <dihedral> pffft 12:21:23 <dihedral> ignorant folk! 12:21:33 <Xaroth> dihedral: your smilie has the same wierdass nose as michael jackson 12:22:10 <jonty-comp> petern petern: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=109366 12:22:15 <dihedral> yes, but my smiley does not engage in 'wierdass' stuff with little kids 12:22:37 <dihedral> jonty-comp, does not exist anymore 12:22:40 <jonty-comp> hmm 12:22:48 <jonty-comp> try now 12:22:57 <dihedral> yes 12:23:04 <dihedral> lovely :) 12:23:07 <jonty-comp> quite 12:23:12 <dihedral> too many carparks for my taste :-P 12:23:15 <jonty-comp> heh 12:23:28 <jonty-comp> I overwrote the fountain, the statue and the cinema with carparks 12:23:30 <dihedral> but, that comic thing would get me playing again 12:23:36 <dihedral> lol 12:23:41 <jonty-comp> there's always like a billion cinemas in a town 12:23:45 <dihedral> that blue building is ugly 12:23:52 <jonty-comp> that's an original one :P 12:23:58 <jonty-comp> I couldn't find it in trg1r :( 12:24:12 <dihedral> i have never seen that building before 12:24:17 <dihedral> in any version of ttd 12:24:22 <jonty-comp> perhaps I had a random grf on 12:24:25 <jonty-comp> I can't remember 12:24:32 <dihedral> and you are not playing with opengfx 12:24:45 <dihedral> and i doubt it's in ttrs 12:25:02 <dihedral> :-P 12:25:11 <dihedral> but i love the look of it :) 12:25:15 <jonty-comp> so it's an imaginary building 12:25:16 <dihedral> uh.... dropped me nose 12:25:25 <dihedral> might be :-D 12:29:01 <weasel> bad train. /me starts using one-way PBSs. 12:30:05 <dihedral> ^^ 12:31:27 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:52 <dihedral> jonty-comp, you did not override theatres :-P 12:37:58 <dihedral> i can see 2 in that picture 12:38:01 <jonty-comp> no 12:38:04 <jonty-comp> I ran out of graphics :P 12:38:18 <dihedral> :-D 12:39:20 <jonty-comp> there is also a church and two road corners 12:39:38 <dihedral> aye 12:40:40 <Gekz> oh dude 12:40:41 <Gekz> those graphic 12:40:42 <Gekz> s 12:40:46 <Gekz> they are tres sexy 12:41:19 <Gekz> best graphics replacement I've seen so far 12:44:28 <dihedral> ^^ 12:51:23 *** EoD [~EoD@gauss.gaf.fs.lmu.de] has joined #openttd 12:57:25 *** MapperOG [~mirrakor@p57B2DC4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:59:55 <Xaroth> dihedral: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=782528#p782528 13:00:32 <EoD> hi 13:00:52 <dihedral> "I'm modifying the server info a bit, that it allows for server-specific download locations for specific grfs." ? 13:01:31 <Xaroth> look down 13:01:32 <Xaroth> attachment 13:01:33 <Xaroth> etc 13:01:33 <dihedral> i know what it means... but how do you query where the info is? 13:01:52 <Xaroth> meh, blame me for posting late 13:02:00 <Xaroth> server information in favourites list xml file 13:02:49 <dihedral> Ammler is not very good for reference :-P for one thing he does not give shit about the grf authors and what they say / want / appreciate 13:03:12 <Gekz> he also has subpar English skills 13:03:18 <dihedral> :-P 13:03:21 <Gekz> in a way that I can't even begin to work out what he's saying half the time 13:03:28 <Gekz> so i don't try 13:03:30 <Xaroth> i really don't care, i understood him yesterday :) 13:03:34 <Gekz> he takes the term "euroenglish" too far 13:03:37 <Gekz> lol 13:03:55 <dihedral> Gekz, eglish skills or not, it's beside the point 13:04:07 <Xaroth> and dih, this shouldn't break any say/want/appreciate thing 13:04:17 <Gekz> dihedral: don't make me lol at the irony in your statement 13:04:33 <Xaroth> 1) the user has to use the server's favourite info, as such the user wants to play on the server 13:04:34 <dihedral> if it went after Ammler, he'd be uploading all grfs he can find to bananas 13:04:40 <Xaroth> 2) the server admin has to make it available 13:04:47 <petern> nice work, jonty-comp 13:05:01 <Gekz> petern: it really is. 13:05:02 <Xaroth> 3) the app won't click that link, the user has to. 13:05:06 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 13:05:14 <Xaroth> or has the choice to 13:05:18 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 13:06:08 <dihedral> Xaroth, generally it would just suffice to link to a website, where the user can read up on details 13:06:28 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:06:38 <dihedral> what the admin states on that website is not of interest 13:06:41 <Gekz> sounds like one click too many 13:07:35 <Gekz> why make proprietary addons for a FOSS game 13:07:46 <Xaroth> dihedral: and in that case the admin can make it point to a website :) 13:07:48 <Gekz> smells silly 13:08:06 <dihedral> Xaroth, you are just making it grf specific in the forum post 13:09:13 <Xaroth> the grf links supplied are per-server per-grf per-version 13:09:32 <dihedral> ouch! 13:09:58 <Xaroth> if server B uses the same grf as server A, but doesn't have the details the app will list it as missing 13:10:34 <petern> there is, of course, a good reason why the download system is centralised 13:10:42 <dihedral> ;-) 13:10:49 <dihedral> yep 13:10:50 <dihedral> that too 13:11:08 <Xaroth> petern: that stuff is only done for things that aren't in the centralised download system 13:11:17 <dihedral> they are not there for a reason! 13:11:33 <dihedral> if nobody cared, all grfs (as found on grfcrawler) would be there 13:11:56 <dihedral> you can, if you dont fine the grfs in bananas, try to find them in grfcrawler and link to that specific page 13:12:00 <dihedral> that'd make sense 13:13:25 <dihedral> i did have my share of discussions with Ammler, also grf related 13:13:50 <dihedral> seriously, i personally would not support grf related links specified by game admins 13:14:38 * Xaroth shrugs 13:14:41 <Xaroth> you don't have to :) 13:14:45 <dihedral> and in addition, Ammler has a lot of 'ideas' for projects, which might not always be that sensible 13:14:56 <Rubidium> you can't search for a specific newgrf (grfid+md5sum) on grfcrawler, only on grfid 13:15:08 <dihedral> and his 'ideas' for projects are very .... special (in his own very way) 13:15:16 <Gekz> Rubidium: which is what I didnt like about grfcrawler 13:15:19 <Gekz> it lacks functionality 13:16:11 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051160154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:38 *** Zahl__ [~Zahl@e176251230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:59 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db03f83.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:20:13 <dihedral> Xaroth, just note that some peoples ideas are not always the best for a project ;-) it's like eating fish - keep the good stuff, spit out the bones 13:20:43 * Rubidium rather has fish without bones 13:21:00 <dihedral> ^^ 13:23:27 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051160154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:27 *** Zahl__ is now known as Zahl 13:24:03 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Quit: Let's try that again! (brb, reboot)] 13:25:07 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051160154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:03 <Gekz> jonty-comp: so are you making an opengfx alternative? 13:29:48 *** EoD [~EoD@gauss.gaf.fs.lmu.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009040721]] 13:29:48 <Xaroth> dihedral: I know. 13:30:01 <Xaroth> but I liked this idea, and I hope I can make it without getting hot potatoes. 13:30:09 <Xaroth> woop, content server workage :o 13:30:53 <jonty-comp> Gekz: check out the comic thread in openttd graphics 13:31:00 <jonty-comp> I didn't draw them, I just put them ingame 13:31:30 <Rubidium> getting potato while it's hot? Nah, it has been cooling down for a long time already 13:31:40 <Xaroth> yes, and i don't want to re-heat it. 13:31:53 <Xaroth> i like em mashed anyhow. 13:32:03 <Gekz> jonty-comp: link plz 13:32:14 <Gekz> I'm a bit too out of my head to internet on my own tonight :/ 13:32:23 <Rubidium> not squeezed? 13:32:38 <Xaroth> squeezed? 13:32:43 <dihedral> Xaroth, where it may be nice to be able to link to urls, not all server admins can be trusted 13:32:49 <dihedral> for one thing 13:33:03 <Xaroth> ofcourse, that's why the user has to specifically import the favourite 13:33:24 <dihedral> and the details you get from where? 13:33:36 <Rubidium> tss... not knowing where potato and squeeze come from? 13:33:36 <Xaroth> what details? 13:33:39 <jonty-comp> Gekz: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=43192 13:33:44 <Xaroth> you can remote-include favourites :) 13:33:54 <Gekz> jonty-comp: had all 4 wisdoms removed 13:33:56 <Gekz> not 6 hours ago 13:33:58 <dihedral> Xaroth, the stuff you write in the favs xml file 13:34:08 <Xaroth> so server admin saves a favourite list on website X under url Y 13:34:14 <Rubidium> I guess jonty-comp has a tip to find the answer 13:34:18 <Xaroth> user adds Y to his favourite list as an include 13:34:26 <Xaroth> and the client will load that url on startup 13:34:27 <dihedral> so any server admin can include any favs file into your app? 13:34:29 <dihedral> nice!! 13:34:31 <Xaroth> nope 13:34:33 <Gekz> jonty-comp: so how many images are left to convert? 13:34:39 <Xaroth> there's a depth limit 13:34:53 <dihedral> e.g.? 13:35:03 <Xaroth> aka, a->b and a->c works 13:35:08 <Xaroth> but a->b->c won't 13:35:32 <Xaroth> a will be depth 0, b 1, and once it gets higher than X (5 for testing, probably 1 for live) it'll stop including 13:35:34 <dihedral> you just lost me right there 13:35:43 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 13:35:43 <dihedral> what is a and b and c? 13:35:46 <Xaroth> fav files 13:35:57 <Xaroth> A being the client 13:36:00 <Xaroth> B and C being remote 13:36:01 <dihedral> and fav file a -> fav file b ? 13:36:09 <Xaroth> A links to B 13:36:21 <Xaroth> so A can link to B and C separately 13:36:22 <dihedral> i cannot read your mind you know 13:36:28 <Xaroth> but A won't follow links FROM B to C 13:36:59 <dihedral> i cannot say your abc stuff is making a bunch of sense 13:37:16 <Xaroth> then i'll keep it at security by obscurity. 13:37:45 <Xaroth> it won't follow nested links, keep it at that 13:37:59 <dihedral> however, as long as a server admin can get any user to include any url as their favs file, and withthat get clients to follow to any url through your app... that sucks 13:38:15 <dihedral> and i can simply specify a url that does a redirect if nessesary 13:38:16 <Xaroth> not exactly 13:38:52 <Xaroth> it's up to the user to trust the server admin for their files, and warnings will be put in place 13:39:07 <dihedral> that's a start ^^ 13:39:17 <Xaroth> i'm not that stupid, y'know. 13:39:59 <dihedral> you can make it simpler, i.e. you can just let server admins register a url on a webservice site, which you can approve 13:40:10 <Xaroth> nah 13:40:14 <dihedral> and then every server has max on url users can follow 13:40:18 <dihedral> *one 13:40:37 <dihedral> then you also know the format of the xml file is right 13:40:49 <Xaroth> if the format of the xml isn't right the app won't load it, period. 13:40:52 <dihedral> and you can kick out items from the xml file if users report bad web site 13:41:41 <dihedral> and the server admins can put on their site what they want (links to grfs if they really have to) 13:42:04 <Xaroth> it's still the user's responsibility to manually include that favourite file 13:42:37 <Xaroth> and as such, read the warning what that means 13:43:47 <Xaroth> i can keep adding layers upon layers, but if the user's dumb enough to get fooled for that he'll be dumb enough to get fooled by anything 13:44:27 <Xaroth> but keep in mind that those links are limited on a per-server, per grf/md5 basis, it'll mean a LOT of trouble for an admin to abuse it 13:45:44 <Xaroth> it means he'll have to keep an ACTIVE server at all times for both favourite file and openttd server, and a grf file that's not in bananas or in the client's local system 13:45:55 <Xaroth> and still be interesting enough for users to join 13:46:11 <jonty-comp> Gekz: most of them :p 13:46:47 <Gekz> jonty-comp: ohshit 13:46:48 <Gekz> lol 13:46:55 <Gekz> jonty-comp: is it GPLd? 13:46:57 <Gekz> or BSD 13:47:07 <Gekz> or other free license #7 13:47:22 <dihedral> it is BSE'd 13:47:24 <dihedral> :-P 13:47:39 <jonty-comp> not sure 13:49:58 <Gekz> that's bad 13:50:06 <Gekz> you could be making a giant copyright fail 13:50:38 <jonty-comp> eh 13:50:46 <jonty-comp> the simutrans people don't seem to care 13:50:47 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:50:59 <jonty-comp> and I haven't released the tar 13:51:08 <Noldo> care about what? 13:51:29 <Gekz> jonty-comp: licensing is licensing. Where did you get the image files from? 13:51:43 <jonty-comp> did you actually read the topic? 13:56:35 <Celestar> morning 13:58:39 <Xaroth> lo Celestar 14:00:59 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has joined #openttd 14:01:07 *** EoD [~EoD@gauss.gaf.fs.lmu.de] has joined #openttd 14:01:11 <EoD> re 14:01:19 <Celestar> fonsinchen: any ideas? :P 14:01:40 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet728.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:01:43 <Gekz> jonty-comp: I know you got them from simutrans 14:01:49 <Gekz> jonty-comp: I mean, was it from a dev, or their svn, or where? 14:02:23 <jonty-comp> they posted it in the topic 14:02:33 <jonty-comp> and said "we are happy to provide the graphics, but we can't code it" 14:02:49 <Gekz> they can take this back 14:02:53 <Gekz> I'd ask for clear licensing terms 14:02:55 <Gekz> if I were you 14:02:58 <Gekz> for some closure 14:03:12 * jonty-comp has never particularly cared about licences 14:03:19 <Gekz> you should 14:03:23 <jonty-comp> it's only a bit of a mockup anyway 14:03:27 <jonty-comp> took about half an hour 14:03:30 <Gekz> it looks awesome though 14:03:30 <Gekz> lol 14:03:34 <Gekz> doesnt have to take forever 14:03:37 <Gekz> its a conversion 14:03:39 <jonty-comp> (they are in game, though) 14:03:48 <Celestar> Aali: if you find time to help me with the cargodest sync-to-trunk, poke me :p 14:03:53 <petern> but it's 32bpp! surely you must've spent hours making and rendering 3d models! 14:04:00 <jonty-comp> yes 14:04:01 <jonty-comp> :D 14:06:15 <Xaroth> ooo, time to go get icecream 14:06:22 <Xaroth> too warm in the office today 14:06:23 <Xaroth> bbiab 14:10:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:47 <fonsinchen> Hi Celestar 14:16:57 <fonsinchen> I'm writing the station GUI atm 14:17:02 <fonsinchen> it's quite a task 14:17:38 <fonsinchen> and I modified the behaviour when links disappear. Cargo is now rerouted according to remaining flows. 14:17:59 <fonsinchen> But I haven't pushed that yet 14:18:05 <fonsinchen> It's not tested 14:19:29 <fonsinchen> The station GUI will have four columns, so that you can group by source, nexthop and destination and sort by the grouped field or count hierarchically. 14:19:52 <fonsinchen> (first column is for cargo type) 14:20:59 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:36:15 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 14:45:29 <Yexo> hello 14:46:36 <EoD> hi 14:47:54 * dihedral just read Yello 14:48:52 <Yexo> yhat's yot hwat y yrote! 14:49:13 * EoD ? 14:49:57 <dihedral> aye :-P 14:54:52 <petern> the race? 14:57:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe191.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:00:19 <petern> heh 15:00:22 <petern> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqU_0xpILIU 15:01:48 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176251230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:03:36 <dihedral> what a load of..... 15:03:53 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.212.114.237.34.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:02 <petern> ... 15:08:22 <dihedral> ^^ 15:08:46 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176251230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:08:46 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 15:08:54 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5DE0D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:09:10 *** EoD [~EoD@gauss.gaf.fs.lmu.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:28 *** EoD [~EoD@gauss.gaf.fs.lmu.de] has joined #openttd 15:09:35 <EoD> damnit... i shouldn't close firefox... 15:10:05 <petern> why? 15:10:12 <dihedral> jonty-comp, wrt your tt-forums avatar... i love it when wall-e sticks his... 'foot' into the other robot's face :-D 15:10:24 <dihedral> petern, chatzilla 15:10:59 * frosch123 pongs Darkvater 15:12:19 <petern> yeah, but why would anyone use chatzilla... 15:13:19 <dihedral> petern, http://brosedesign.de/Screenshots/news/new_graphic_10-02.gif <- actually quite nice :-) 15:13:59 <frosch123> is there a maglev running on top of the bottom right house? 15:14:10 <dihedral> http://brosedesign.de/Screenshots/simutrans/big-simutrans-pak96c-01.png 15:14:11 <dihedral> uhh 15:14:28 <dihedral> lol frosch123 15:14:45 <Gekz> it really looks cool 15:15:19 <dihedral> http://brosedesign.de/ <- bunch of nice stuff :-P 15:18:07 <frosch123> "Objects have around 8 random bits per tile of the object" <- did lakie decide to also randomise the amount of random bits? 15:18:26 <Rubidium> yup 15:18:32 <Rubidium> I'd do that myself to too 15:18:54 <Gekz> thats awesome 15:21:21 <MapperOG> hey, looks nice 15:22:05 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db03f83.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: brb] 15:25:15 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 15:30:49 *** DephNet is now known as DephNet[Paul] 15:32:17 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:32:33 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:41:51 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:57 <jonty-comp> dihedral: I do too :D 16:12:20 <jonty-comp> to be honest, I think the comic stuff looks better when it's been scaled down to TTD size rather than at full size in simutrans :o 16:14:07 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:18:25 *** db48x [~db48x@64.218.49.85] has joined #openttd 16:19:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:21:00 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 16:40:45 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=109376 <- who requested the original-AI-style AI? 16:42:05 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 16:42:27 <Rubidium> someone whom's name starts and ends with a capital and the second letter's an i? 16:43:10 <frosch123> likely :) could have thought of him myself... 16:54:09 <petern> DiH? 16:54:45 <frosch123> KingJ 16:54:51 <petern> who? 16:54:58 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:04 <frosch123> ask him, he is in this channel :p 16:55:48 <frosch123> CIA-9 is also possible, as it is a capital 9 16:56:27 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 16:58:28 <petern> TinoM 16:58:41 <petern> PierreW 16:59:06 <petern> so vague ;) 17:02:23 <Forked> frosch123: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=42741 (old ai request) 17:03:59 <frosch123> he does not have a captial letter at the end.. 17:08:44 <Xaroth> http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/wow_jbleau/I_quit_School.png 17:10:04 * frosch123 misses "inc ax" 17:12:24 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:40 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:34:49 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:34:49 * Rubidium wonders whether that question from Xaroth was in a pascal test 17:36:14 <frosch123> it was neither "variable := variable + 1;" nor "inc(variable);" nor "inc(variable, 1);" 17:36:40 <frosch123> hmm, "dec(variable, -1);", ... never tried 17:38:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:44:45 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 17:45:17 *** GoneWacko [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 17:46:38 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r16070 /trunk/src/lang/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 17:46:38 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-04-17 17:45:57 17:46:38 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: german - 5 changed by hellow (1), planetmaker (4) 17:46:38 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: greek - 29 changed by ptsakiris (29) 17:46:38 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: serbian - 110 fixed by etran (110) 17:46:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 17 fixed, 447 changed by ww9980 (464) 17:46:55 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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19:12:32 <Yexo> just service your industries good enough and they'll most likely go up 19:12:41 <Yexo> I say most likely as production changes are random 19:12:42 <Patrick> because there are so many trains queueing for my primary, the rating's gone up and I remember from somewhere that if you're too good they won't rise 19:12:42 <frosch123> wait until recession is over 19:12:48 <Patrick> which is certainly what I've seen 19:12:54 <Patrick> got about 100 ore trains backed up, it's a pita 19:13:07 <Yexo> that's bogus, at least with the default industries there is no such thing as a "too good" rating 19:13:20 <Yexo> and I haven't heard of any newgrf that implements anything like that 19:13:27 <Patrick> the last time i was in the trunk source it was true 19:13:30 <Patrick> but that was years ago 19:13:44 <frosch123> patrick: just send them to a depot, when recession is over the production will change back to the old value 19:14:00 <Patrick> by the time I've done that, I'll have RSI and the recession wil be over 19:14:10 <Patrick> I built buffers, they're holding for now 19:14:24 <Patrick> it just reminded me of the production value thing 19:14:31 <frosch123> well, the production is halfed, so you need half amount of vehicles :) 19:14:46 <Patrick> I've certainly seen in the past that industries only spiralled to crazy 300+ production if I serviced them well but not excessively well 19:15:01 <Patrick> frosch123: wanna come here and tell 75 trains to go to a depot :P 19:15:20 <frosch123> use the advanced vehicle list and use grouping 19:16:25 <Patrick> split my trains in half? 19:16:30 <Patrick> they're all shared atm 19:16:41 <Patrick> I can't see a way to do it without 75 clicks 19:16:43 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/Vehicle_groups 19:16:45 <Patrick> oops, recession over 19:16:47 <Patrick> the banter helped 19:18:11 <Patrick> anyway, groups wouldn't avoid the fact that in order to split my 150 into 2 75's I'd need at least 75 repetitive clicks 19:18:54 <frosch123> wait for the next recession :p 19:19:04 <Patrick> I also took care of things by removing some signals and accidentally killing off 4 trains 19:19:09 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has quit [Quit: edgepro: There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on.] 19:19:31 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.73.249.23] has joined #openttd 19:21:10 <Patrick> no, but srsly, I'm totally convinced that production changes are capped for value 19:23:11 <Patrick> bah, I am proven wrong by the wiki 19:24:48 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-53-146.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:25:11 <Yexo> Patrick: the wiki is not always reliable 19:25:29 <Patrick> it's a fairly comprehensive deconstruction of the mechanics 19:25:40 <Patrick> maybe I'm remembering a really old version of the economy 19:47:33 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16072 /trunk/src/subsidy_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Adding widget number constants to subsidy list window. 19:51:48 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm246.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: how do i sleeped] 19:52:58 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5DE0D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:55:51 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16073 /trunk/src/subsidy_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Replacing some magic constants by computations relative to the SLW_PANEL widget. 19:57:45 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.212.114.237.34.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:03:56 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16074 /trunk/src/subsidy_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Adding nested widgets to subsidy list window. 20:08:18 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F147.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:23 <fjb> Hello 20:08:40 <frosch123> moin :) 20:08:41 <Yexo> hello fjb 20:15:51 <fjb> Quiet today... 20:16:53 <Alberth> quite quiet indeed 20:17:19 <Joachim_A> anyone have url to a reduce passenger amount patch? 20:17:57 <Yexo> google / forum search :p 20:18:13 <Joachim_A> yeah... trying 20:18:23 <frosch123> press ctrl-alt-c, select magic bulldozer, and reduce the number of houses, then disable building of roads 20:19:16 <fjb> And don't use TTRS... 20:38:23 <fjb> Is this cargo distribution thing worth trying out? 20:40:32 <frosch123> afaik it is cargo distribution, which does not include cargo destination 20:42:15 <fjb> And the cargo destination patch got eaten by the real world? 20:42:17 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest851 20:42:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.2.65.138] has joined #openttd 20:42:25 <frosch123> it computes "planned" cargo flows between available stations, and then cargo loads/unloads/transfers to vehicle based on the fullfilled/planned flow 20:42:29 <Yexo> Celestar is trying to update it again 20:42:43 <frosch123> fjb: cargodest got some commits today 20:43:10 <frosch123> err, no 31 hours ago was yesterday :p 20:43:23 <frosch123> +, 20:44:19 <fjb> Oh, nice to hear that. Last thing I heard was that Celestar was cought by the real world and never got released. 20:45:47 *** Guest851 [~KenjiE20@92.19.104.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:13 <fjb> Long reserve PBS? What is that? Many new things at the forum. 20:50:48 <frosch123> it seems to be similiar to michi_cc's advance signals 20:52:14 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=764751&sid=f901c12c33cb34c6fe0265f90ab1500c#p764751 <- just in case you also missed that one :p 20:52:18 <fjb> Then I have to look closer. I liked what michi_cc showed here some time ago. 20:52:41 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:51 <Rubidium> :O session ids 20:53:01 <Nite_Owl> Hello everyone 20:53:28 <frosch123> fjb: well, don't believe me. I did not read the topics, I only pass gossip 20:53:32 <fjb> Thank you. I didn't miss that. I only hat the impression the michi_cc's patch was not really ready yet. 20:53:54 <fjb> Hi Nite_Owl 20:54:00 <fjb> Session ids? 20:54:09 <Nite_Owl> Hello fjb 20:55:03 <frosch123> maybe rubidium can now discover which topics I read today :p 20:55:41 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 20:55:42 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D7CA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:56:27 <fjb> No air crashes? Hey, I'm missing real air crashes. Where is the fun? :-) 20:56:50 <Rubidium> frosch123: I always know ;) 20:57:31 *** samples [~makinson@189.14.64.148] has joined #openttd 20:57:33 *** samples [~makinson@189.14.64.148] has left #openttd [] 20:57:48 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:55 <frosch123> You know? I might believe you if you can look it up somwhere... but you know? :p 21:01:38 <Rubidium> every day you always read too many stupid topics 21:01:54 <Rubidium> so you read the stupid topics ;) 21:02:19 <frosch123> not all :p 21:03:36 * Rubidium wonders whether Celestar is familiar with FS#2844 21:04:35 <frosch123> tunnelwormholes are entered/left when the vehicle becomes invisible/visible. bridges are entered when actually leaving the bridgehead 21:04:55 <frosch123> I cannot remember when that annoyed me... :p 21:05:17 <frosch123> oh, I can. when changing the followvehicle stuff 21:05:32 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:05:32 <Rubidium> then unify it! 21:05:49 <Rubidium> as long as you don't bjarnify it 21:06:39 <petern> hmm? 21:07:07 <frosch123> Rubidium: take the volunteer posting just before me 21:07:20 <fjb> Btw, what happened to Bjarny? Did he ban himself from irc? 21:07:33 <glx> somehow :) 21:07:58 <petern> "please change these track bits" hahaha 21:07:59 <[wito]> if you are about to unify tunnels and bridges handling of wormholes, can I make a suggestion? 21:08:30 <[wito]> If you are going to make any changes, now might be a good time for laying the foundations of stations in tunnels/on bridges/signals in tunnels/bridges 21:08:35 <frosch123> remove wormholes! 21:08:57 <[wito]> remove wormholes for bridges, then turn tunnels into bridges; problem solved! 21:08:58 <[wito]> also 21:09:10 <petern> underground bridges 21:09:12 <[wito]> bridges and tunnels at different elevations really need to be able to cross. :P 21:09:22 <petern> [wito], please 21:09:30 <[wito]> please what? 21:09:36 *** MapperOG [~mirrakor@p57B2DC4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:09:39 <petern> if you don't actually have any technical solutions to offer, rehashing fairly obvious things does not really do much 21:09:53 <[wito]> well, not all that familiar with the code. :P 21:09:55 <frosch123> checkout the map branch :p 21:10:36 <[wito]> yeah, reading up on tunnels/bridges now 21:11:03 <petern> check it out then ignore it totally? heh 21:12:13 <[wito]> indeed 21:12:19 <[wito]> but I think I might have a sollution 21:12:29 *** CrazyTransport [Matt@67-61-240-50.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:02 <CrazyTransport> How do you set up arguments. I don't understand the part in the wiki %A - %Z" substitute arguments for aliases 21:13:31 <[wito]> This might sound crazy; but bear with me 21:13:37 <CrazyTransport> ok 21:13:39 <[wito]> Tunnels (and bridges) are wormholes, right? 21:13:47 <[wito]> CrazyTransport: wasn't talking to you, sorry 21:14:04 <[wito]> so who says they have to end up on the same map as they originated from? 21:14:13 <CrazyTransport> ah ok. I think tunnels are. not sure about bridges 21:14:33 <[wito]> make bridges (and tunnels) into pairs of wormholes, each that goes to map <-> hyperspace 21:14:40 <[wito]> and then lay down real track in "hyperspace" 21:15:18 <[wito]> add a window for seeing the interior of a tunnel with some UI or other, and you've got it made in the shade, yah`? 21:15:55 <frosch123> yeah, there should be a button to make a 3D camera flight through one of your tunnels 21:16:45 <[wito]> frosch123: I was thinking something akin to the transparent buildings above your tunnel juxtapositioned on top of a muted, "undergroundy" representation of the real track in the tunnel. :P 21:17:09 <[wito]> And I did say it was a bit of a crazy idea, but at least it's AN idea 21:17:15 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/3d/tunnel.png <- like that? 21:17:35 <[wito]> yeah 21:17:38 <[wito]> just like that. :P 21:17:49 <[wito]> well 21:17:51 <frosch123> what a crazy new idea you got there! 21:17:52 <[wito]> not just like that 21:17:54 <frosch123> :p 21:17:59 <[wito]> like that, but less buggy. .P 21:18:04 <[wito]> now THERE'S a crazy idea.: P 21:18:17 <Rubidium> another idea... make it possible for the player to drive trains with a 'first person' view 21:18:30 <[wito]> frosch123: I didn't say I was the first to think of it; I just said it was a crazy idea (and it is. :P) 21:18:32 <Rubidium> then extend this to other vehicles 21:18:40 <Rubidium> and add machine guns to them 21:18:59 <Rubidium> finally at the possibility to use a virtual PDA 21:19:08 <Rubidium> on which you can read mail 21:19:13 <petern> and play ttd 21:19:13 <Rubidium> ... or play OpenTTD 21:19:44 <dihedral> somehow the word "patchpack" has ever sinse.... you-know-who/when... gotten a negative tint 21:19:52 * dihedral just read 'bilbo's patch pack' thread 21:20:17 <Rubidium> oh bilbo's not MP-safe patch pack? 21:20:50 <dihedral> hehe 21:21:00 <dihedral> well... i actually just skimmed it 21:21:08 <dihedral> dont reel like reading those things anymore 21:21:12 <[wito]> actually 21:21:29 * Rubidium just skims for keywords to know it's not MP safe 21:21:44 <[wito]> building a network importer for to import OTTD.savs into train simulators would be kick-ass 21:21:48 <frosch123> c&p ? 21:21:59 <dihedral> Rubidium, words like what? 21:22:02 <Rubidium> well... duh.. 21:22:08 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 21:22:10 <dihedral> Copy & paste? 21:22:11 <dihedral> :-P 21:22:42 <frosch123> oh, "multiplayer patchpack" 21:22:59 <dihedral> that's like the only real mp unsafe thing he has 21:23:06 <dihedral> everything else looks ok, does it not? 21:23:18 <dihedral> esp. Console 'companies' also in SP 21:23:19 <dihedral> :-D 21:23:41 <Rubidium> well, technically c&p can be MP safe... but not if morons are "maintaining" the patch 21:23:55 <dihedral> well... is that not always the case? 21:24:12 <dihedral> who's involved? yorick? 21:24:39 <Rubidium> who? 21:26:35 <Rubidium> not even 100 downloads of the last version; not much chance that I can easily find one connected to a server 21:31:29 <dihedral> i meant, who is maintaining the patch 21:31:35 <dihedral> or "maintaining" rather :-P 21:32:01 <frosch123> likely "various artists" 21:32:17 <Rubidium> should I quote myself? 21:32:35 <Rubidium> 'morons are "maintaining" the patch 21:32:38 <Rubidium> +' 21:33:00 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:02 <fjb> Is nobody of the patch pack people using a vcs? 21:33:25 <dihedral> yes, the is guys are 21:33:28 <dihedral> *IS 21:34:02 <fjb> Ah, only noticed patch packs that obviously are using none. 21:34:23 <dihedral> but that aint a patch pack, it's a patch 21:34:55 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 21:35:01 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 21:38:26 <fjb> That is why I didn't notice it as a patch pack. 21:42:42 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 21:52:43 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 21:53:51 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 22:06:04 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:57 *** MrCoder [MrCoder@78-143-220-47.in-addr.isp.net.uk] has joined #openttd 22:10:17 <MrCoder> Hi guys, is there a way to have more max_companies then 15? 22:10:22 *** MrCoder [MrCoder@78-143-220-47.in-addr.isp.net.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:48 <Rubidium> someone doesn't want an answer 22:11:08 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:17:39 <petern> being a coder he'll no doubt find out 22:23:39 *** MrCoder [MrCoder@78-143-220-47.in-addr.isp.net.uk] has joined #openttd 22:24:10 <MrCoder> Heya guys, is there a way to increase max_clients to more then 15? 22:24:42 <MrCoder> max_companies I mean 22:24:44 <MrCoder> sorry 22:25:33 <petern> not without making major changes 22:25:53 <MrCoder> Is there a patch for it? 22:26:41 <MrCoder> Thanks for the response btw 22:27:53 <petern> no 22:28:42 <MrCoder> Would changing the MAX_COMPANIES definision from 0x0F to 0xFF allow 256? 22:28:49 <MrCoder> And rebuilding the exe 22:28:49 <petern> no 22:28:57 <MrCoder> :( 22:29:10 <MrCoder> Guessed as much hehe 22:30:01 <MrCoder> Im not being stupid am I, I am hosting a 255 player server, but am limited to 15 companies, once 15 are created nobody else can play. 22:30:10 *** padshance [pad@bl8-183-69.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:31:20 <MrCoder> Thats right isnt it? 22:31:28 <MrCoder> Im not missing something am I? 22:31:48 <petern> 15 companies is the max, yes 22:32:13 <Maarten> You can't have more then 15 companies 22:32:20 <MrCoder> Would it be a huge job rasising that limit then? 22:32:26 <petern> 23:25 <@petern> not without making major changes 22:32:42 <MrCoder> Point taken :) 22:32:42 <Maarten> It was already a pretty big job raising it from 8 to 15 :P 22:33:36 <MrCoder> Whats the main complexety? 22:33:45 <Maarten> And you would have some issues distinguising the companies from one-another, as you start to run out of colors that are different enough :P 22:34:17 <Maarten> You can have 255 players though, they will just need to share the 15 companies :P 22:35:31 <MrCoder> Basicly I have a server that has lots of free resources and wanted to have a huge game going. 22:36:31 <MrCoder> Is there a way to work with the 15 company limit but still let 100's of player play on the server? 22:37:14 <[wito]> Create one map, run several concurrent games, compare notes every so often and make a competition out of it 22:37:46 <MrCoder> Sounds like fun! 22:38:32 <[wito]> Heck, with some cajoling, you might even be able to write an AI that copies the rail layouts of random players from other concurrent games 22:38:33 <MrCoder> Lots of 24 player servers with a score global score board kinda thing. 22:38:38 <Maarten> You can allow 255 players onto one server, just not all with their own company. Running multiple servers with the same map could also be a good idea. 22:38:40 <[wito]> yep 22:39:28 <MrCoder> wito, I really like the sound of that AI system 22:39:53 <[wito]> You'd probably have to write it yourself 22:39:59 <[wito]> and some hooks into the server for it to work. :P 22:40:40 <MrCoder> So one huge AI company that copies the content from all the other servers bar the one it is on? 22:41:50 <MrCoder> Then again thinking about that what would happen if one town developed faster on one server then another? 22:42:58 <[wito]> well, it wouldn't copy all of it 22:43:07 <[wito]> it couldn't possibly afford that 22:43:21 <MrCoder> I'll have a look through the code this weekend 22:43:33 <MrCoder> Thanks for the input guys 22:43:41 <[wito]> but it could compare success rates of various extensions of the network in various fashions, and try the better sollutions 22:43:42 *** MrCoder [MrCoder@78-143-220-47.in-addr.isp.net.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44:13 <petern> heh 22:46:16 <[wito]> heh what? 22:48:14 <CrazyTransport> How do you set up arguments. I don't understand the part in the wiki %A - %Z" substitute arguments for aliases 22:54:38 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-56-4.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 22:55:16 <[wito]> CrazyTransport: take dbg_echo for example 22:55:27 <[wito]> from the Console Aliases page 22:56:13 <[wito]> if you said alias dbg_echo "echo %A; echo " and then invoked dbg_echo Hello World it would echo first Hello, then World 22:56:36 <[wito]> well 22:56:51 <[wito]> assume that %B didn't get turned into boldtext, and that I quoted stuff properly. :P 23:00:35 <CrazyTransport> hmm 23:00:43 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 23:00:58 <CrazyTransport> It's cause I'm trying to make an alias for team chat in console 23:01:14 <CrazyTransport> so I can chat with my own team without having to put the company number 23:02:19 <CrazyTransport> while in the console that is 23:16:14 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r16075 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r15792)[FS#2844]: Mixed up TRACK_BIT_X/Y. 23:17:51 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEff7c.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 23:18:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-158-139.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:51 <Patrick> mwahahaha 23:21:55 <Patrick> 300 trains for one station 23:22:00 <Patrick> 300 million a year 23:22:04 <Patrick> I'm bored. 23:23:35 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEdea8.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:27 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has joined #openttd 23:29:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe191.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:35 <CrazyTransport> wow patrick how did you manage that 23:32:47 <CrazyTransport> my stations can barly manage 100 trains 23:32:49 <Patrick> with great tenacity 23:33:05 <Patrick> most of the trains are in transit, there's only 22 platforms 23:33:09 <[wito]> 32 tracks, load balanced, Ro-Ro? 23:33:22 <CrazyTransport> any way I can get your saved game so I can get ideas for better network building? 23:33:57 <[wito]> or a giant screenshot. ;) 23:34:08 <CrazyTransport> I always use load balancers and ro-ro's for my main lines/stations 23:35:04 <CrazyTransport> oh I have one question that's been bugging me. 23:35:44 <CrazyTransport> if you need to make a station bigger. How do you do it whithout interfearing the flow of traffic? 23:36:14 <[wito]> if you need to patch the lines, there isn't really a way, is there 23:36:15 <Patrick> carefully 23:36:21 <Patrick> I usually can't do it that well 23:36:39 <Patrick> like, if I wanted to extend 6 to 8 platforms 23:36:56 <Patrick> I'd shut down 2 of them, extend it, build the infrastructure for the 4 "new" ones 23:37:02 <Patrick> then flip them over and do it again 23:37:15 <CrazyTransport> hmm 23:37:15 <Patrick> I haven't found a decent solution for load balancing big stations yet 23:37:25 <Patrick> I go 111222 on the entrance and 121212 on the exit 23:37:28 <Patrick> but that doesn't really work 23:37:35 <De_Ghosty> you divert the traffic 23:37:41 <De_Ghosty> it will slow it a bit while u work 23:37:41 <Patrick> keeps my mainlines roughly level 23:37:47 <CrazyTransport> do you use waiting areas? 23:37:53 <Patrick> sometimes 23:38:02 <Patrick> I'll put a save up 23:39:37 <Patrick> http://patrickthomson.ath.cx/Patrick.sav 23:39:39 <Patrick> 0.7 23:39:54 <Patrick> I'll be around for about 20 minutes if you wanna ask about it 23:40:17 <Patrick> I think I have one or two grfs but they're cosmetic or not used 23:40:28 <[wito]> think you could torrent a Giant Screenshot as well? ;) 23:41:41 <Patrick> argh I killed it 23:41:53 <Patrick> the map is 256x2048 (I wanted to work on concepts) 23:41:55 <[wito]> killed what? 23:41:59 <Patrick> so the screenshot will be 90% black 23:42:01 <Patrick> killed ottd 23:42:08 <Patrick> it'll be diagonal 23:42:27 <Patrick> it's been pegged for about 30 seconds now 23:42:40 <De_Ghosty> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive 23:42:41 <De_Ghosty> :o 23:42:49 <De_Ghosty> always looking for more cooper 23:43:03 <[wito]> Patrick: sure it's dead? 23:43:09 <[wito]> GS takes a LOT of time 23:43:13 <Patrick> nope, it finally outputted it 23:43:20 <[wito]> ah, ok 23:43:31 <Patrick> yeah, I skimmed concepts from the coop wiki 23:43:41 <Patrick> in the end, though, this game is a cheat 23:43:45 <Patrick> there are no junctions 23:43:50 <Patrick> I just wanted to focus on stations 23:44:12 <CrazyTransport> patric it's not comming up 23:44:19 <Patrick> the save? 23:44:26 <Patrick> bugger 23:44:27 <Patrick> one sec 23:44:31 <CrazyTransport> ok 23:44:45 <Patrick> try now 23:44:50 <Patrick> stupid 0700 default mask 23:44:55 <CrazyTransport> lol 23:45:16 <Patrick> ok, the giant screenshot is a 32 meg PNG 23:45:24 <Patrick> I don't think anyone would get the benefit of it 23:45:52 <CrazyTransport> well I got the save downloaded 23:46:13 <Patrick> most of the map is boring, I can do the two ends on a zoom 23:46:16 <Patrick> wito, want it? 23:46:26 <[wito]> sure 23:46:38 <[wito]> wait, only 32 megs? 23:46:42 <[wito]> what dims? 23:46:46 <[wito]> oh 23:46:52 <[wito]> 256x2048 23:46:53 <[wito]> ah 23:46:54 <[wito]> send it all 23:48:21 <Patrick> http://patrickthomson.ath.cx/Patrick.png 23:48:43 <Patrick> it's padded the screenshot square, nothing I can do will view it. It's most likely something like 20,000 by 20,000 23:48:47 <Patrick> still want the big one? 23:49:13 <[wito]> if you'd care to send it 23:49:19 <Patrick> k 23:49:36 <Patrick> aha, I have my awesome secret backup high-bandwidth shell lurking here somewhere 23:49:56 <CrazyTransport> hmm 23:50:57 <Patrick> I discovered that "remove signals" will work over trains 23:51:08 <Patrick> I accidentally did it down the main line and killed 40 at once 23:51:13 <CrazyTransport> how? I can never remove signals over trains 23:51:51 <Patrick> ctrl-autoremove 23:52:02 <CrazyTransport> hmm 23:52:07 <Patrick> [wito]: uploading... 23:52:13 <[wito]> yay 23:52:19 <[wito]> I was thinking DCC, but your way is fine too 23:52:31 <Patrick> web, I can stash it for laer 23:52:51 <Patrick> or so I can panic and delete a big useless file when I hit quota 23:53:46 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485BCA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:57:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:57:40 <Patrick> hard to believe that the original maps were only twice the size of my width 23:57:42 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F147.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:21 <[wito]> heh, indeed 23:59:09 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12]