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00:00:14 <petern> Belugas, Belugas Belugas 00:20:24 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177226159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:26:28 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db013ce.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:27:53 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177231252.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:39:08 <Belugas> there! 00:39:18 <Belugas> still there? 00:54:31 <goodger> petern: *poke* 01:01:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:02:03 <petern> ow 01:07:42 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.21.231] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 01:10:41 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-235-159.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 01:13:25 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-235-159.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:15:38 *** LebQzz [~prosit@86.52.62.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:24 *** LebQzz [~prosit@86.52.62.123] has joined #openttd 01:19:47 <LebQzz> so you guys also work on the 16bpp? 01:20:13 <LebQzz> 32bpp sorry ;P 01:20:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.166.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23:16 <glx> I'm not an artist :) 01:36:50 <petern> :D 01:36:56 <petern> sleepy time 01:41:50 <Belugas> ho my god :D 01:41:58 <Belugas> how much FUN I HAD! 01:42:45 <Belugas> roughly 45 minutes! 01:43:15 <Belugas> the very first jam of the non-official OpenTTD-Dev band 01:43:25 * Belugas is soo happy :D 01:49:01 *** Maarten- [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 01:53:52 <glx> now compose music replacement :) 01:57:01 <Belugas> meeeeh... let say we had a bit of a nostalgic session :) 01:57:12 <Belugas> would not say it fit TTD :) 01:57:39 <Belugas> i found out i did not record the whole session, just bits 02:03:57 <Belugas> tadam :) 02:04:04 <Belugas> it compiles! 02:04:16 * Belugas goes to sleep, happy as can be 02:04:23 <Belugas> night everyone 02:07:29 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:08:53 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:16:52 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:46:39 <Pikka> hmmmm 02:48:22 <Pikka> so why in 0.7.0 do I get "too close to another industry" even when "industries of the same type can be built close to each other" is turned on? :) 03:00:49 *** TinoM| [~Tino@89.245.208.0] has joined #openttd 03:07:43 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D896.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:16 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:28:52 *** Pikka is now known as Pikka|lunchables 03:38:33 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:27 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:46:47 *** Pikka|lunchables [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 03:54:28 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 03:55:37 *** Fuchs82 [~fehly@e181071191.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 04:10:06 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 04:11:56 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:14:05 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet704.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:26:35 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:4d64:e03f:4d10:9d6d] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:40:16 *** Pikka [~user@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 04:53:57 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has left #openttd [] 05:25:37 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:54:52 *** reldred [~richard@115.131.192.101] has joined #openttd 06:14:50 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:40:04 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [] 06:40:36 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 06:40:55 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.10] has joined #openttd 06:47:29 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:17:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DFF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:28:08 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:32:43 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:25 *** reldred [~richard@115.131.192.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:38:37 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 07:45:04 <TrueBrain> morning people! 07:47:54 <Alberth> good morning 07:47:56 <planetmaker> morning people, morning TrueBrain :) 07:50:19 <TrueBrain> There was a party upstairs yesterday .... I didn't went as I wanted to get out of bed early 07:50:33 <TrueBrain> but I feel as I went ... couldn't sleep till late ... and bleh 07:51:17 <planetmaker> he :P Could have gone then as well... :P 07:51:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-236-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:51:38 <TrueBrain> so I realised .... 07:51:41 <TrueBrain> morning Wolf01 07:51:43 <Wolf01> hello 07:52:22 <TrueBrain> yesterday I also realised that I find Python one of the most annoying languages I ever worked with :) 07:52:43 <TrueBrain> well, besides the obvious of Java, VB, and ASP 07:53:10 <Alberth> TrueBrain: any particular reason why you hate Python? 07:53:19 <TrueBrain> Alberth: not hate, I find it annoying 07:53:25 <TrueBrain> mostly because you do scoping with tabs 07:53:27 <Alberth> s/hate/annoying/ 07:53:31 <TrueBrain> it is not praticle 07:53:42 <TrueBrain> sometimes you want to quickly enable or disable a piece of code 07:53:50 <TrueBrain> now I need to change tabs in order to make the code working again! 07:54:02 <TrueBrain> which makes it almost impossible to work on any python script via vim 07:54:09 <Alberth> you need a block-comment key in your editor 07:54:12 <TrueBrain> and it makes scoping VERY unclear 07:54:33 <TrueBrain> I often make minor mistakes by putting a tab wrong .. that is just silly :) 07:55:50 <TrueBrain> Alberth: such key won't help: I often want to disable a piece of this: 07:55:51 <TrueBrain> try: 07:55:53 <TrueBrain> int(a) 07:55:55 <TrueBrain> except ValueError: 07:55:58 <TrueBrain> pass 07:55:59 <TrueBrain> for example 07:56:05 <TrueBrain> I want to keep int(a) 07:56:18 <TrueBrain> means 3 comments, and one tab remove .. the latter often goes wrong :) 07:57:15 <Alberth> I find Python one of the better languages, I guess I found a way to work with the tab stuff in vim 07:57:29 <TrueBrain> the longer I work with it, the more that annoys me :) 07:57:41 <Alberth> I'd probably copy the int(a) line to before the try: 07:57:41 <TrueBrain> that and the fact that 1 != "1" :p 07:58:08 <Alberth> That's one of the things that annoys me in Perl :p 07:58:13 <TrueBrain> but okay, I dislike ruby even more ... 'a 1' is the same as 'a(1)' .. which is one of the worst possible statements you can make :p 07:58:37 <Alberth> it is normal in functional languages, but true, I find it unreadable too 07:58:40 <TrueBrain> and I run into tons of utf-8 problems with Python, which I can't seem to understand :( 07:59:01 <TrueBrain> I now simple put .encode("utf-8") behind EVERYTHING :p 07:59:14 * Alberth is staying in the safe ASCII sub-set :) 07:59:41 <TrueBrain> Alberth: either way, truth there, I don't know a better alternative to Python ... PHP sucks more, Ruby is not an option, Perl .. brrr, ASP no tnx .. so it is the best of the worst ;) 07:59:51 <TrueBrain> well .. WT3 forces me to make it utf-8 ready :( 08:00:39 <Alberth> Yeah, one day I must also bite the Unicode bullet I am afraid, Unicode will not go away 08:02:39 <TrueBrain> so I guess I shouldn't complain .. I don't know anything better :p 08:04:39 <TrueBrain> although I wish Python had an #include <> like statement ... import sometimes doesn't cut it 08:06:46 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:06:55 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 08:07:06 *** Pikka [~user@58.173.248.50] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:11:54 *** mikl_ [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 08:17:36 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:18:07 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 08:20:06 *** mikl_ [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:32:26 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:49 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051000147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:51:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:57:18 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:33 <petern> mmm, asp.net 09:00:44 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:03:53 <TrueBrain> petern: we don't support non-opensource standards :p 09:09:57 *** TinoDid [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:10:22 <TrueBrain> nice thing to know: when you do 'hg commit' you can change things in your WC, but it is not 'committed' (while you are in the log-edit dialog, that is) 09:10:35 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:56 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:10:57 *** helb_ is now known as helb 09:12:25 <Pikka> you can change things in your WC, eh? 09:12:37 <TrueBrain> WC = WorkCopy 09:13:32 <Pikka> not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Closet then? 09:13:43 <TrueBrain> only in your world I guess :) 09:13:49 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: subversion has that 'feature' too 09:13:59 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I always wondered about it .. now I noticed it :p 09:15:58 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:28 <Gekz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ZFow_9vsg 09:28:41 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:56:55 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:04:50 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 10:06:09 *** GoneWack1 [~GoneWacko@i44172.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:06:34 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16139 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Adding/completing widget number enums of several graph windows. 10:09:24 *** GoneWacko is now known as Guest2015 10:09:24 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 10:09:43 *** Guest2015 [~GoneWacko@i44172.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:23:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8308B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:23:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:28:58 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 10:29:34 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc797.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 10:33:43 *** Sapakara [~chatzilla@84-245-33-124.dsl.cambrium.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009040821]] 10:38:01 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52:30 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet704.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 11:01:21 <TrueBrain> I official hate UTF-8 :) 11:01:24 <TrueBrain> wait ... I already did :p 11:13:14 <Xaroth> what's wrong with it this time then? 11:14:14 <Forked> or wtf-8 as I've seen people call it.. 11:15:20 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: it sucks to handle systems that have both ISO-8859-1 and UTF-8 files 11:15:31 <TrueBrain> but I finally found a nice and clean method to solve it ... I hope :) 11:16:01 <petern> utf-8 is nice :( 11:16:15 <TrueBrain> pure UTF-8, most likely 11:16:25 <TrueBrain> combination of ISO-8859-1, UTF-8 and ASCII ... not so much 11:17:28 <Vikthor> well but that's not entirely fault of UTF-8 11:17:43 <TrueBrain> very true 11:17:52 <petern> well you're not meant to mix them :p 11:17:59 <petern> and of course plain 7 bit ascii is no problem :D 11:18:18 <TrueBrain> I was running revision 1 of our SVN into WT3 11:18:21 <petern> at least most of the iso-8859-1 values are the same in utf-8 11:18:23 <TrueBrain> which turned out to use ISO-8859-1 :( 11:18:27 <petern> why bother? 11:18:37 <TrueBrain> just because I can, mostly :p 11:18:41 <petern> clearly you can't :p 11:18:52 <TrueBrain> nah, the SVN history have shown a good test-case for all kinds of weirdness 11:19:07 <TrueBrain> if WT3 can import r1 to HEAD, I am pretty sure it is ready for everything that you guys might fire on it :p 11:21:28 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 11:21:47 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.240.245] has joined #openttd 11:24:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc051.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 11:26:45 <TrueBrain> okay, maybe it is just Python who fucks up :p 11:26:56 <TrueBrain> when I follow a simple encode/decode example, it still fails :p 11:29:51 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-160.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:34:35 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:44:10 *** genclay [~mind@94-193-104-242.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:49:54 *** Yeggstry [~mind@94-193-104-242.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:20 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:24 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 11:56:42 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5182:d88f:6344:366c] has joined #openttd 11:56:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:56:43 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:56:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8308B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:58:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81005.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:58:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:59:49 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16140 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Call a function while contructing a widget tree. 12:01:05 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16141 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Adding nested widgets to remaining graph windows. 12:05:25 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 12:08:48 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:08:55 *** Gekz [~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:09:14 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db02984.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:22:47 <TrueBrain> where is that Rubidium when you need him :( 12:24:54 <Pikka> portugal 12:25:30 <TrueBrain> I doubt that ;) 12:25:48 <Pikka> no, that's where he is when you need him 12:25:56 <Pikka> if he's not there, then you don't need him. qed. 12:26:09 <TrueBrain> but I need him now :( 12:26:11 <TrueBrain> well, good for him 12:26:17 <TrueBrain> means he is enjoying a nice holiday :) 12:26:28 <Pikka> mmhm! 12:26:43 <Pikka> shortly he will come back 12:26:48 <Pikka> and then you will no longer need him 12:26:55 <TrueBrain> I WILL ALWAYS NEED HIM!@ 12:27:26 <TrueBrain> (too much?) 12:29:01 <Pikka> I dunno, you might scare him off :D 12:31:06 <TrueBrain> well .. time to do some shopping!!! :) 12:31:10 <TrueBrain> NEED FOOD! 12:31:52 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:32:58 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 12:43:21 <TrueBrain> oeh, and the good news is that it seems I finally got the whole encoding and decoding of utf-8 under control :) Yeah! 12:47:28 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: does Enschede qualify as an answer? 12:48:17 <Pikka> see, Rubidium is back from portugal and TrueBrain doesn't need him any more. :] 12:49:10 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: http://lexxis.free.fr/blog/wp-content/superdupont_we_need_you.jpg ;) 12:50:49 <Rubidium> Pikka: never been to Portugal 12:50:58 <Rubidium> been to somewhere that once belonged to Portugal though 12:51:27 <Rubidium> (and then belonged to the Dutch and now doesn't belong to neither) 12:51:44 <Pikka> indonesia? 12:52:02 <Rubidium> no 12:52:09 <Pikka> for 38.11 kB, that picture sure took a long time to load 12:56:30 <Rubidium> Pikka: from 1636-1639 it was practically Portuguese, from 1641-1857 it was practically Dutch and since 1996 it's basically a museum 12:57:16 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:57:48 <Pikka> oh 12:57:52 <Pikka> thingy island 13:01:31 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:18 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e179091215.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051000147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:33 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:51:29 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 14:08:31 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:27:12 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:23 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:44:56 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 14:45:55 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:25 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:50:56 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 14:51:59 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet704.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54:34 *** Zorn [~zorn@f054001103.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:55:35 <TrueBrain> what a boring day :p 14:55:46 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:57 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 15:01:14 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177226159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:21 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:06:54 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: let's make the day more exciting :) Could you trigger a compile of the infrastructure sharing patch please? 15:07:06 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: I was just typing something to you 15:07:08 <TrueBrain> scary 15:07:13 <planetmaker> :D 15:07:22 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: I considered it, but I won't be adding a 'comment' field for gender and cases 15:07:29 <planetmaker> :( 15:07:31 <TrueBrain> if you have a gender which is not clear by the name, you did something very wrong :p 15:07:40 <TrueBrain> I mean ... m ... f ... n ... p .... 15:07:41 <planetmaker> "by name"? 15:07:43 <TrueBrain> how hard can it be? :p 15:07:51 <planetmaker> plural is not a gender 15:07:54 <TrueBrain> I don't see what a comment could ever clearify ... :p 15:08:05 <TrueBrain> might not be a gender, but for sure it is 100% clear what your intensions are with it :) 15:08:21 <planetmaker> for a non-inaugurated person clearly not, I think 15:08:32 <TrueBrain> you have to be a real morron to not understand that :) 15:08:39 <TrueBrain> I don't think you want such person in your translator team ;) 15:08:45 <planetmaker> :P true 15:08:49 <TrueBrain> either way, a post in the forum or what ever should be plenty :) 15:09:26 <TrueBrain> CF is running btw 15:09:32 <TrueBrain> 35 minutes or so 15:09:40 <planetmaker> thanks a lot :) 15:09:46 <TrueBrain> no problem 15:10:27 <planetmaker> oh, I think, german genders are m-w-n-p :P - it was not named f ;) 15:10:34 <planetmaker> but that's completely irrelevant 15:10:37 <TrueBrain> yup :) 15:12:24 <Xaroth> Quick question 15:12:32 <TrueBrain> very quick 15:12:33 <Xaroth> the tars openttd downloads, they are extracted during runtime? 15:12:46 <TrueBrain> no, you have to go offline first 15:12:48 <TrueBrain> ... 15:12:55 <TrueBrain> is there any other possibility? :) 15:13:01 <Xaroth> ... let me rephrase 15:13:04 <TrueBrain> haha :) 15:13:07 <Yexo> there is no need to extract those tars 15:13:10 <Xaroth> they are re-extracted -EVERY- time they are needed? 15:13:24 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: 'tar's are just small filesystems 15:13:28 <TrueBrain> so they are never extracted 15:13:28 <Yexo> do you actually know what a tar file is? 15:13:33 <TrueBrain> the filepointer is put in the file 15:13:33 <Xaroth> I am aware of the concept tar files 15:13:52 <Xaroth> I just had to confirm that 15:13:58 <TrueBrain> how stupid do you think we are? :) 15:14:48 <TrueBrain> the tars only have the small overhead of indexing them at startup 15:14:58 <TrueBrain> (well, the files in them) 15:15:16 <TrueBrain> then the Fios of OpenTTD takes over, and the rest of the code thinks they are true files on the system 15:19:01 <TrueBrain> hmm .. those good old days 'tars' were called 'wads' :p 15:19:09 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc797.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20:13 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc797.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:20:23 <Rubidium> wads? 15:20:41 <TrueBrain> you don't know wads? :) 15:20:43 <TrueBrain> haha :) 15:21:09 <Rubidium> nope 15:21:12 <TrueBrain> DOOM? 15:21:24 <TrueBrain> Quake? 15:21:51 <Rubidium> that's all after tar was 'introduced' 15:21:54 <frosch123> those were the files with the texture you coud open worldcreator or so 15:22:05 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I hope you realise I was joking? 15:22:41 <Rubidium> I didn't ;) 15:22:50 <TrueBrain> silly you :p 15:22:54 <petern> wads had non-unique filenames 15:24:16 <petern> which were all 8 characters, heh 15:24:47 <TrueBrain> at least someone who knows his history :) 15:26:36 *** DR_Jekyll [DrJekyll@p57B0D44A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:30 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-66-158.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 15:31:25 *** DR_Jekyll [DrJekyll@p57B0D44A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:31:47 <planetmaker> hm... I need some pointers. We have a machine with two dedicated servers running on it. One game advertizes, the othere doesn't. 15:31:50 <planetmaker> Any clues? 15:33:14 <TrueBrain> firewall? 15:33:16 <TrueBrain> portforward? 15:33:18 <TrueBrain> different ports? 15:33:26 <planetmaker> the advertizing? 15:33:29 <planetmaker> same user? 15:33:34 <planetmaker> same machine? 15:33:44 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0F3AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:46 <planetmaker> the games can both be connected to. 15:33:50 <TrueBrain> you are giving more clues then I do! 15:34:17 <planetmaker> I thought the port for advertizing is always the same, isn't it? 15:34:30 <TrueBrain> more a question if the server was running on an other port :p 15:34:52 <planetmaker> the servers are running on 3981 and 3982. Both work and I can connect and play 15:35:22 <planetmaker> one is the coopetition server you find in the server list. 15:35:58 <planetmaker> the other is the infrastructure sharing server... but that doesn't touch those parts at all. 15:36:25 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81005.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Icebears are cute. Please, take care of them!] 15:36:47 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81005.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:36:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:37:41 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-19-62.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:41:34 <planetmaker> hm... the old wwottdgd/2 server on 3979 works, too... 15:44:26 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: are you sure you advertised? 15:44:44 <planetmaker> uhm... can I stop that from happening? 15:44:50 <TrueBrain> server_advertise 0 15:44:51 <planetmaker> sorry, if it's a silly question 15:44:56 <planetmaker> will check the config 15:44:56 <TrueBrain> so I think you can, yes ;) 15:46:10 <planetmaker> it sais true for that option in the config file 15:46:16 <TrueBrain> then restart the server 15:46:51 <planetmaker> hm... yes. I restarted it on 3979 and now it works. Why ever 15:47:05 <TrueBrain> you also restarted 3982 15:47:09 <TrueBrain> or it re-sent 15:47:24 <TrueBrain> 3981 is still not online 15:47:33 <planetmaker> yes. I changed 81 to 79 15:47:36 <TrueBrain> .... 15:47:41 <TrueBrain> then it worked like 5 minutes ago 15:48:02 <planetmaker> hm? 15:48:16 <TrueBrain> 15:44:22 3979 registered itself to MSU 15:48:18 <planetmaker> 3981 was the one with issues 15:48:34 <planetmaker> changing the config to 3979 seems to have helped 15:48:42 <TrueBrain> I think a restart was the thing that helped 15:48:44 <TrueBrain> but okay :) 15:48:52 <planetmaker> though I don't understand why. But yeah :) 15:49:02 <TrueBrain> UDP packets can get lost .. happens 15:49:16 <TrueBrain> that is why it retries a few times 15:49:20 <planetmaker> oh, ok. 15:51:33 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:51:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:54:43 <TrueBrain> okay ... most WT3 changes are done ... pff ... 15:54:45 <TrueBrain> many changes :) 15:55:39 <Bjarni> do you have a list of changes? 15:55:45 <TrueBrain> yes, it is on my wall 15:55:51 <Bjarni> or will it be too long to mention 15:56:03 * Bjarni looks at TrueBrain's wall 15:57:42 *** qkr [plaiho@miranda.dc.turkuamk.fi] has joined #openttd 15:58:30 <qkr> hi 15:58:34 <TrueBrain> hi qkr 15:59:50 <qkr> can any progamer help me with signals? I have read the guides on your wiki and I still can't do what I want 16:00:25 <Yexo> nobody can as long as you don't state what you want :p 16:01:35 <qkr> I have mainline with 2 tracks, and sideline with 1 track, I want to join the mainline so that a) the mainline has priority b) train coming from side will choose the free track, I want to know can this be done using PathBasedSignals? 16:02:02 <Yexo> no 16:02:11 <Yexo> priorities can't be done with only pathsignals 16:02:31 <Bjarni> you can if you use presignals, but it would take a bit extra space 16:02:56 <Bjarni> and it's pseudo priority 16:02:59 <TrueBrain> I doubt mixing PBS and presignals can result in anything good :) 16:03:12 <Bjarni> I agree 16:03:44 <qkr> if I have just 2 tracks mixing into one, I know how to make a priority and it's pretty simple, it's just 3 to 2 is too complex for me 16:04:02 <TrueBrain> welcome to the game :) 16:04:13 <Bjarni> it's actually an interesting task 16:04:19 <TrueBrain> http://www.tt-forums.net , browse around there a bit in the OpenTTD section, you will find many people suggesting things 16:04:26 <TrueBrain> also, the wiki has a few entries on such things 16:04:27 <Yexo> just make the priority for both lines, so the presignals where the train is waiting is pointing to two exit signals instead of only one 16:04:33 <Bjarni> you beat me to point to the forum 16:05:08 <planetmaker> [18:02] <TrueBrain> I doubt mixing PBS and presignals can result in anything good :) <-- it allows to build prios over sections with double bridges :) 16:05:30 <planetmaker> but most people won't need that 16:05:59 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: btw, compile finished 16:06:04 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest2042 16:06:04 <planetmaker> oh, nice :) 16:06:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.240.245] has joined #openttd 16:06:10 <TrueBrain> (like 10 minutes ago, but okay :p) 16:06:15 <qkr> I found this http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Image:1_to_2_load-balancer.png it just looks so complex with so many signals 16:06:41 <TrueBrain> so you want a non-complex solution .. I don't think that is going to happen with the current signals OpenTTD offers :) 16:07:15 <qkr> then lets improve that, add easier signals :) 16:07:27 <Bjarni> qkr: ok, what should the signals do? 16:07:30 <TrueBrain> when do you start? 16:07:35 <Bjarni> and how do you plan to code it? 16:08:48 *** Guest2042 [~KenjiE20@92.17.240.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:50 <qkr> I haven't thought about the details, I just thought it should be simpler than this 16:09:13 <Bjarni> then start thinking about details 16:09:28 <Yexo> pathsignals are easy, but there are no easy solutions for complex problems like yours 16:11:46 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 16:12:32 <qkr> well I might try to think of some solution...I guess it has been tried before? 16:12:41 <TrueBrain> so many times ;) 16:12:46 <TrueBrain> as I said: check the forums :) 16:23:18 <qkr> well damn, I think I found just what I am looking for... 16:24:03 <qkr> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42675 16:24:34 <Patrick> that's an obscure patch 16:24:42 <Patrick> what you want can be done with priority signals 16:24:46 <Patrick> like the picture you linked 16:24:53 <Patrick> it's not complex once you understand it 16:25:49 <qkr> but this patch solution looks simpler, less signals 16:26:25 <Patrick> it also involves running some random guy's code, your saves won't work with anyone else, you won't be able to upgrade 16:26:26 <Patrick> etc 16:26:57 <qkr> true 16:27:20 <Patrick> plus, some way down the page, there's a problem with that 16:34:56 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: interestingly, the filenames have a different name than the enclosed binary claims to be. 16:35:12 <TrueBrain> example? 16:35:28 <planetmaker> We set explicitly the version to "IS2.0-beta2" - and the filenames all are the mercurial revision h0... 16:35:47 <TrueBrain> revision has NOTHING to do with filenaming :) 16:35:58 <TrueBrain> the filenames are there for easy reference and indexing 16:36:04 <TrueBrain> the revision is there for network :) 16:36:04 <planetmaker> "we set" = if you do a hg clone && ./configure && make you end up with that 16:36:23 <planetmaker> ok - so that's not intended to be exactly the same on all conditions? 16:36:25 <TrueBrain> the CF forces a filename style :) 16:36:46 <TrueBrain> (one you can refer to in an easy way via scripts and stuff :)) 16:37:02 <planetmaker> :) 16:37:19 <TrueBrain> the only thing that is possible, is to change the hg revision tag to a release tag, but that only happens when we tell CF it is a release 16:37:56 <TrueBrain> in this case I think it is a terrible idea to make the revision tag IS2.0-beta2 .. isntead I would go for @@revision@@-is2 16:38:00 <planetmaker> ok, what does it use then? 16:38:09 <TrueBrain> reason is simple: if you find a bug, you can update, run CF again, and let everyone update 16:38:12 <planetmaker> I would have chosen that, too, yes 16:38:51 <TrueBrain> for now releases are only possible for official OpenTTD binaries (and even that only via tags) 16:39:06 <TrueBrain> if you guys REALLY would want the revision tag removed, I need to considered that (mostly, the impact that would have) 16:39:36 <planetmaker> it's nothing big. We just wondered and I though I might ask the person who knows :) 16:39:51 <TrueBrain> and so now you know ;) 16:40:09 <planetmaker> :) 16:40:11 <TrueBrain> but in the case of is2, I would suggest using @@revision@@-is2 as revision-tag .. using tags without @@revision@@ is really silly 16:40:27 <planetmaker> yes, I think so, too 16:41:06 <planetmaker> I'd have gone for @@revision@@-is2-beta2 16:41:11 <planetmaker> or would that be too long? 16:41:14 <TrueBrain> why add beta2? 16:41:21 <TrueBrain> I mean ... does it really mean something, the 'beta2' thingy? 16:41:31 <TrueBrain> when you find a bug today, it is fixed tomorrow .. and you call it beta3? :p 16:41:32 <planetmaker> because that's what it is :) 16:41:50 <planetmaker> well... 16:42:09 <planetmaker> I guess that versioning scheme was introduced by Swallow before we had the compile farm work for us ;) 16:42:19 <planetmaker> and then making the binaries was really... effort 16:42:32 <planetmaker> so a new binary release would only be made from time to time 16:42:45 <planetmaker> you say we should change that? 16:42:56 <planetmaker> then I'll propose that to Aali and Swallow 16:43:17 <TrueBrain> it would allow faster test-cycles 16:43:24 <TrueBrain> or you have beta99 by the end of the month ;) 16:44:26 <planetmaker> ok. Then I'll try to be persuasive in that way. I prefer it actually, too 16:44:55 <TrueBrain> (problem btw of release-tags, is that they don't build in debug-mode) 16:44:59 <planetmaker> though something like ...-is2-b3 gives a better reference for which test version it is (3) than the h... 16:45:05 <planetmaker> which is not human readable really 16:45:09 <planetmaker> at least not sequential 16:45:57 <planetmaker> and if people complain about something then it's easier to know with such number which version they use and whether it's fixed already 16:46:34 <TrueBrain> still SVN is useful for that .. sequential numbers ... 16:46:43 <TrueBrain> mercurial does have that too .. but requires you do use it in a central way 16:46:46 <TrueBrain> which mostly fails ;) 16:46:54 <planetmaker> yeah :) 16:47:26 <planetmaker> well, hg is fine, if one can add a release number to a version. 16:47:44 <planetmaker> hm... I have strange behaviour here. 16:47:55 <planetmaker> I join the IS2 server - fine. 16:48:12 <planetmaker> Then I use my binary which is compatible with the public server - and it doesn't find that. 16:48:21 <planetmaker> if I enter the server manually, it's ok and fine. 16:48:48 <planetmaker> But then the same happens, if I again want to join the IS2 server: it isn't found anymore in the server list until I enter it manually and join 16:51:10 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 16:52:31 <planetmaker> hm... not if I change the server port... 16:54:31 <planetmaker> hm... no, not true. Still doesn't work 16:58:50 <planetmaker> hm... sometimes they're there, sometimes not.... hm. well. 16:59:02 <planetmaker> not reproducable, I guess 16:59:11 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: I think you have a local problem ;) :p 17:00:08 <planetmaker> maybe. 17:00:38 <planetmaker> but I have no connectivity issues or so... 17:03:26 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:08:09 <Alberth> planetmaker: you can set tags in hg for revision tagging. 17:09:35 <planetmaker> Alberth: we did do that. 17:09:44 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:09:52 <planetmaker> the tag is exactly that: IS2.0-beta2 17:10:39 <planetmaker> no, it's 2.0beta2 17:10:55 <planetmaker> but nvm 17:26:01 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 17:33:28 <TrueBrain> WT3 validation is up and running .. just need to make a small patch to allow glx his annoying string :p 17:33:56 <TrueBrain> and I need to trash the DB on the server and run a new import ... pff .. :p 17:33:59 <TrueBrain> will do that overnight I guess 17:36:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:42:08 <planetmaker> cron job it to 3am or so 17:42:14 <planetmaker> :) 17:42:45 <petern> urgh 17:42:48 <petern> that fart stinks 17:42:54 <petern> so bad i thought i'd share 17:43:04 <TrueBrain> tnx for tha 17:43:06 <TrueBrain> t 17:43:24 <Bjarni> good thing I didn't get around to install that smell card driver 17:43:27 *** qkr [plaiho@miranda.dc.turkuamk.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:44:10 <Alberth> mine melted 17:45:12 <Bjarni> I was once at a private LAN party (consisting of 3 people) and the PC user managed to melt his sound card 17:45:56 <TrueBrain> that user being you, I assume 17:46:11 <Bjarni> I used a G3 back then 17:49:08 <Bjarni> the result was that the PC user was without sound the whole weekend while the rest of us had sound :P 17:49:38 <Bjarni> to be fair it really was a low end sound card 17:51:38 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16142 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt settings_gui.cpp): -Codechange: Use widgets in the custom currency window. 17:51:50 <TrueBrain> Alberth: how many windows left? 17:52:48 * frosch123 was once at a private LAN party (consisting of about 8 people) and the fuse blew. But instead of waiting so everyone can turn of his monitor and such the host tried to switch it on five times in a row consuming one PSU and one power socket 17:52:57 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: alberth * r16143 /trunk/src/lang/ (42 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Change other languages too. 17:53:57 <Alberth> TrueBrain: this one is not even done yet 17:55:01 <TrueBrain> so: a lot? 17:55:56 <frosch123> afaik there is a scheduled gui work up to ottd 0.A 17:56:00 <Alberth> 68 of the 115 done 17:56:08 <TrueBrain> oh, more than 50% done :) 17:56:18 <Alberth> for the first phase :) 17:57:41 <TrueBrain> how many phases? 17:57:46 <Alberth> Am also spending time on pushing window widgets into a nice shape. Takes time, but makes life easier in the future 17:58:38 <Alberth> more than 1 :) Have not thought yet about what to do in which order next 17:58:46 <TrueBrain> ghehe :) 17:58:48 <TrueBrain> fair enough :) 18:00:10 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5182:d88f:6344:366c] has joined #openttd 18:00:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5182:d88f:6344:366c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 18:02:38 *** glx_ is now known as glx 18:03:59 <Alberth> First phase is to have a nested widget tree for every window in use. Then we could look into adding support for RTL languages. Also then we can drop the widget array constants, and need to figure out how to render/interact with the tree in a window. Then, when we let go of the fixed size of fonts, basically all rendering in the panels will drop dead. 18:04:15 <Alberth> So 0.A seems like an adequate estimate :) 18:06:03 <Alberth> Oh, I missed the concept that widgets need to lose their hard-coded size. That must be done somewhere too :) 18:07:11 <TrueBrain> so you will be around for the next few months :) 18:07:13 <TrueBrain> glad to know ;) 18:08:04 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:09:42 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 18:11:53 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-65-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 18:21:33 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:21:39 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485D74A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:41 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C60F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:57 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 18:29:45 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:55 <Alberth> No way to look at the actual texts that need translation for a language at WT2 without account, is there? 18:32:08 <TrueBrain> nope 18:33:10 <Yexo> Alberth: for Dutch, only the strings you just added are missing 18:34:46 <TrueBrain> https://secure.openttd.org:444/test-www/en/translator/edit/15/2 <- Alberth: that shows it :) 18:37:32 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: nice :) 18:38:11 <Alberth> tnx! 18:38:24 <TrueBrain> it will be gone in a moment .. going to restart the import :) 18:40:30 <planetmaker> STR_TOOLTIP_SET_CUSTOM_CURRENCY_SEPARATOR <-- is that the seperator for 1000 or for 1,23⬠? 18:41:11 <petern> one would assume 18:41:14 <petern> it's a separator 18:41:20 <petern> not a 'seperator' 18:41:28 <Yexo> is there a way to clear strings from the "in session" status in wt2? 18:41:50 <planetmaker> commit and then delete them 18:41:51 <Rubidium> Yexo: yes... asking me to kill your complete session ;) 18:42:02 <Yexo> Rubidium: can you do so for me? 18:42:55 <Rubidium> bye bye session 18:43:11 <Yexo> thanks 18:52:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:55:52 <planetmaker> hm... does this separator setting have any effect anywhere? 18:55:56 <planetmaker> or just not yet? 18:56:56 <Yexo> try restarting openttd 18:57:20 <planetmaker> oh. only with restart? 18:57:23 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009040821]] 18:57:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm88.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:59:45 <planetmaker> and why is the Euro earliest introduced in 2000? It became official money in 1999. 18:59:52 <planetmaker> though only book money 19:00:11 <TrueBrain> so in 2000 it was official introduced :p 19:00:18 <planetmaker> nope. 19:00:22 <planetmaker> 2001 19:00:33 <TrueBrain> so then it is nicely in the middle! 19:00:35 <planetmaker> as money for you to have in the hand 19:00:51 <TrueBrain> (Btw, it was 2002, but okay) 19:01:08 <planetmaker> ok. wasn't living in Europe back then. 19:01:15 <TrueBrain> bad excuse :p 19:01:22 <TrueBrain> if you do like you know it all, make sure you have it right :) Mwhaha :) 19:01:47 <planetmaker> :) 19:02:00 <TrueBrain> lol, for a few revisions, one translator did translate every {TOWN} instance with {CITY} :p 19:02:12 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:15 <TrueBrain> he was consistant :) 19:02:36 <planetmaker> :P 19:03:05 <TrueBrain> k, going to update WT3 now 19:03:53 <planetmaker> :) 19:05:25 <TrueBrain> this is going to take a while :p 19:05:29 <TrueBrain> r1 to HEAD 19:05:31 <TrueBrain> can't be good :p 19:08:48 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: German language has id 7 19:16:19 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81005.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80288.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:18:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:20:48 <TrueBrain> glx / planetmaker / whoever: string validation works in the 'Edit' section of WT3. If you have the time, please try it out. Saves are not really saved yet, but validation fails when it should (or so I hope) 19:20:52 <TrueBrain> glx: your string is still not accepted 19:20:59 <TrueBrain> haven't got the time to write my own split() routine :) 19:21:14 <TrueBrain> import is running, so you can expect to see Lock errors from time to time :) 19:21:55 <glx> TrueBrain: I reached an infinite loop :) 19:22:03 <TrueBrain> glx: try a valid language :p 19:22:23 <glx> the error box block me 19:22:23 <TrueBrain> can't remember why it happens ... I should fix it :p 19:22:33 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:40 <TrueBrain> error box? 19:22:48 <glx> "there are no string in this category" 19:23:04 <TrueBrain> clicking okay should send you to the All String category ... 19:23:10 <TrueBrain> which language are you trying? 19:23:15 <glx> which is empty too :) 19:23:23 <glx> french (language 20) 19:23:33 <TrueBrain> gives a DoesNotExist page 19:23:35 <TrueBrain> try reloading ... 19:23:53 <glx> I can't due to the message box 19:24:02 <TrueBrain> blame your browser 19:24:14 <TrueBrain> french is id 8 now 19:24:18 <glx> click and quick F5 worked 19:25:12 <glx> too many untranslated for now ;) 19:25:18 <TrueBrain> r87 ... :p 19:25:24 <TrueBrain> but try out the translation validation routine :) 19:26:01 <TrueBrain> 3 untranslated strings now for french :p 19:26:24 <frosch123> 2062 for original vehicle names :p 19:26:28 <TrueBrain> :) 19:26:37 <TrueBrain> I couldn't be bothered to filter it out ... is removed now anyway :) 19:26:43 <frosch123> 91.5 overall is not too bad either 19:26:56 <TrueBrain> 92.3 ... :p 19:27:04 <TrueBrain> but we have now 4 times as many languages :) 19:27:37 <frosch123> nevertheless, there are no 'unfinished' languages, are there? 19:27:54 <TrueBrain> now, or back then? 19:27:58 <frosch123> back then 19:28:01 <TrueBrain> nope 19:28:07 <TrueBrain> first onces appear around r2000 19:28:11 <TrueBrain> when Bjarni fucks that up completely :p 19:30:59 <TrueBrain> (he did a svn copy instead of a svn move .. giving twice the same language :)) 19:31:39 <TrueBrain> we have come a long way, since r1 ... from a small set of languages to a lot more languages ... 19:32:33 <Bjarni> err 19:32:35 <frosch123> that is the first law of bureaucracy: before you remove something, better do a copy 19:32:56 <Bjarni> what do you claim that I fucked up? 19:33:00 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: don't tell us you didn't do it, your name is in the SVN logs :p 19:33:09 <TrueBrain> I don't claim anything :) I state facts! 19:33:15 <TrueBrain> I just don't tell it is in 2005 19:33:27 <Bjarni> based on the logs that only you can modify :P 19:33:28 <Prof_Frink> No, the first law of bureaucracy is the same as the first law of everything else. Put the kettle on and have a cup of tea. 19:33:34 <Bjarni> it's a plot against me 19:33:36 <Bjarni> I know it 19:34:17 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: actually the first law of bureaucracy is not to do anything unless you have somebody else to blame if it goes wrong 19:34:58 <Prof_Frink> Unless that something is making tea. 19:35:13 <TrueBrain> TEA! 19:35:15 <TrueBrain> hmm 19:35:17 <TrueBrain> tea ... 19:37:06 <frosch123> http://paste.openttd.org/182254 <- if you go like that, that is also a law of bureaucracy 19:37:41 <TrueBrain> lol @ frosch123 19:37:43 <TrueBrain> me like 19:38:08 <Yexo> nice one frosch123 19:40:23 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: didn't you have a IS2 server running? :p 19:50:28 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80288.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Icebears are cute. Please, take care of them!] 19:50:33 <Bjarni> so TrueBrain is making claims about what I did or didn't do 4 years ago 19:50:47 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: again, not claiming; stating facts 19:51:08 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: there is a server running with IS2 afaik 19:51:24 <planetmaker> mz.openttdcoop.org:3981 19:51:29 <Bjarni> I don't recall copying the language files :/ 19:51:43 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: suprising, that your memory doesn't go back 4 years .... 19:51:46 <TrueBrain> lucky we have SVN to remind you 19:52:02 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: not in server-list 19:52:10 <Bjarni> I wonder if I did something as good as a could at the time or if my svn client did something silly 19:52:10 <planetmaker> yes... :S 19:52:20 <planetmaker> no idea why. 19:52:37 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: somehow I think it is related to port 3981 and your local machine 19:52:38 <planetmaker> as stated... 19:52:40 <TrueBrain> just a hunch ;) 19:52:40 <Bjarni> I remember I had problems installing svn in the beginning 19:52:49 <Bjarni> since it turned out that it was listed as unstable 19:52:53 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: sure sure, try to blame something else 19:53:00 <TrueBrain> but the difference between 'svn copy' and 'svn move' is big :p 19:53:20 <Bjarni> it's just 3 letters :P 19:53:58 <Bjarni> I know the difference is big but I remember having a bit of an issue with this stuff 19:54:02 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:22 <Bjarni> I once did svn move and the history died so it was reverted and committed again 19:54:23 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:54:26 <TrueBrain> but no worries, it happens more often that I read: WT2 f*cked up (mostly commits by MiHaMiX :)) 19:54:28 <TrueBrain> hi Nite_Owl 19:54:38 <Bjarni> why the same command failed the first time and worked the last.... I have no idea 19:54:39 <planetmaker> hi Nite_Owl 19:54:54 <Bjarni> hello Nite_Owl 19:55:20 <Bjarni> luckily I'm using a newer version of svn now and it's listed as stable so it should work now 19:55:25 <Nite_Owl> Hello TrueBrain, planetmaker, and Bjarni 19:56:45 <Bjarni> TrueBrain: well there is no reason to talk about it now. I mean we all know how we would like it to have been done and we would all have done it that way today. The question is what to do now in order not to confuse WT3 19:56:59 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: then why you talk about it? 19:57:18 <Bjarni> well I wonder what you intend to do now :) 19:57:41 <TrueBrain> hit you with a few bricks over and over 19:57:42 <TrueBrain> maybe .. 19:57:44 <TrueBrain> not sure yet :p 19:57:50 <Bjarni> hehe 19:58:10 <Bjarni> I don't think that will fix issues in the commit log 19:58:18 <TrueBrain> I am not 100% sure .. 19:58:20 <TrueBrain> I can at least try! 19:58:32 <Bjarni> that could be dangerous to your health 19:58:38 <TrueBrain> mine?! 19:58:42 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: what's the update frequency of the server list? 19:58:48 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: 5min 19:58:49 <Bjarni> yeah 19:58:53 <TrueBrain> well 19:58:55 <planetmaker> oh 19:58:56 <TrueBrain> no, planetmaker, instant 19:59:09 <planetmaker> the web page, too? 19:59:13 <Bjarni> somebody trying to throw bricks at me is in imminent danger 19:59:16 <Bjarni> they might die 19:59:25 <TrueBrain> Servers registered as on 2009-04-25 19:59:04 UTC. <- I added that to make sure you understand how old the page is 19:59:31 <TrueBrain> clearly you don't .... :p 19:59:37 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: somehow, I truly doubt that 19:59:40 <planetmaker> :P 19:59:58 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: but it can take up to 5 minutes before the updater queries your server 20:00:08 <TrueBrain> (after advertise) 20:00:16 <planetmaker> ok, thx. so I'll at worst have to have that much patience 20:00:35 <TrueBrain> if your console tells you you are added 20:00:36 <TrueBrain> you will be :p 20:01:21 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:03:01 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: for your information, all servers report offline 20:03:14 <planetmaker> !! ? 20:03:33 <planetmaker> oh.. you mean when they go offline by user command? 20:04:04 * jonty-comp takes all the openttd servers offline 20:04:27 <Prof_Frink> What if they go offline by notwerk failure? 20:04:38 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: I mean that all 4 servers ever registered at mz.openttdcoop.org now report offline :) 20:04:53 <planetmaker> interesting. 20:05:06 <planetmaker> but actually correct 20:05:58 <planetmaker> using now the port which worked for the h2h server 20:07:43 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:09:39 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-145-28-101.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:55 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: AdiaÅ.] 20:14:19 <Bjarni> ohh spring is on it's way 20:14:31 <Bjarni> I just saw a sign of increasing temperatures 20:14:41 <Bjarni> there were a spider running on the wall 20:14:52 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:17:09 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16144 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Fix (r16129): setting the custom digit grouping separator required to restart OpenTTD to take effect. Now also support non 1 ASCII character custom grouping separators. 20:17:14 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:19:56 *** martinpilkington [~martinpil@91.84.67.203] has joined #openttd 20:20:09 <Nite_Owl> just a spider - I had to swerve my car to avoid a 3 foot iguana the other day 20:21:41 <Rubidium> and the iguana decided to try to avoid you by going to the same direction are you were going? 20:22:33 <Bjarni> I didn't mention size or toxic level of the spider 20:22:47 <Bjarni> that's because none of those are worth mentioning :P 20:22:59 <TrueBrain> and yet you did ... 20:23:31 * Bjarni starts to wonder about a chameleon hiding on a car 20:23:46 <Bjarni> will it end up being wheel+chassis coloured? 20:23:55 <Bjarni> or maybe engine coloured 20:23:56 <Prof_Frink> car-ma chameleon? 20:24:03 <Bjarni> :) 20:24:25 <Bjarni> ok, I didn't think of that reply, but it's a good one anyway 20:26:01 <martinpilkington> Hey all, got something that I'm not sure if its a bug or the game is meant to work like this, but is kinda confusing 20:26:12 <Bjarni> do explain 20:26:23 <Bjarni> and then we decide if we want to call it a bug or not 20:26:26 <martinpilkington> if I start a game in, say, 2025 then I can build a railway system, stations, lines etc 20:26:34 <martinpilkington> but when I go to build a train, there are no engines available 20:26:58 <Yexo> then build electric rails and an electric depot 20:27:04 <Yexo> assuming you don't use any newgrfs of course 20:27:55 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: I'd rather put a chameleon on a tartan rug 20:28:02 <martinpilkington> yeah, it just would make sense to possibly disable the plain railway option if you can't build any trains for it 20:28:13 <martinpilkington> little confusing if a new user was to come along and find that 20:28:42 <Yexo> martinpilkington: you can still use old non-electric trains 20:28:48 <Yexo> just don't build any new ones 20:31:35 <glx> default start date is 1950 for a good reason :) 20:32:11 <Prof_Frink> glx: Because that was the start date in TTD? 20:32:21 <TrueBrain> Prof_Frink: he said: GOOD reason 20:32:25 <TrueBrain> not legacy reason 20:32:41 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: Why is it then? 20:32:51 <TrueBrain> did you read anything above what he said 20:32:59 <TrueBrain> or you just saw a line and start puching those keys? 20:33:04 <martinpilkington> glx: then maybe it should be able to be changed ;) 20:33:16 <Prof_Frink> Well, the reason there's trains in 1950 is because TTD started in 1950. 20:33:19 <martinpilkington> anyway it was just something I saw that was odd, hadn't played in a while, updated to 0.7 and found I couldn't build trains 20:33:29 <martinpilkington> then realised it was due to the date 20:36:03 <martinpilkington> btw, is there anything you had to do to enable electric railways besides the date being after 1965, because they don't seem to enable for me 20:36:49 <glx> it's enabled as soon as an electric engine is available 20:37:08 <Yexo> there are no electric trains in tropic/artic iirc 20:37:11 <Yexo> at least not in one of them 20:37:21 <glx> that too :) 20:37:22 <martinpilkington> ah that could be why 20:42:22 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80288.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:42:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:42:44 *** TinoM| [~Tino@89.245.208.0] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:44:36 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 20:44:42 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:44:53 <fjb> Hm is "Assertion failed: (index < this->GetSize()), function Get, file /home/frank/devel/OpenTTD-r16119cadist/src/linkgraph/../oldpool.h, line 125." related to the cargodist patch? 20:45:15 <TrueBrain> fjb: that assert is too generic to say anything about that 20:45:24 <TrueBrain> it means a pool failed in some way 20:46:00 <fjb> Hm, building a debug version? 20:46:20 <TrueBrain> if you can reproduce, yes, a backtrace will be required if you want someone to do anything with it :) 20:46:28 <TrueBrain> or in case of MSVC a crash-dump might be suffucient :) 20:46:30 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:39 <fjb> It look reproducable. 20:46:52 <fjb> gcc 20:47:06 <TrueBrain> then try reproducing in trunk; if you can't, it is cargodist ;) 20:48:05 <fjb> Good, I will try it. Hope I really can reproduce it. 20:48:22 <TrueBrain> the key for any bug to be solved ... reproducability :p 20:48:32 <fjb> I know... 20:48:45 <TrueBrain> I once tried reading it in the stars 20:48:47 <TrueBrain> kind of failed 20:49:49 <fjb> Never tried that. I prefer a crystal ball. 20:50:08 <TrueBrain> they always break :( 20:50:24 <fjb> Be more carefull. 20:50:59 <frosch123> [22:49] <TrueBrain> I once tried reading it in the stars <- there is a certain chance that there is some planet out there, where the cause of the bug is scribbled on the surface 20:51:09 <fjb> They don't work broken. (But nonbroken either...) 20:51:16 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I wouldn't count on finding the star ;) 20:57:57 <Bjarni> <TrueBrain> I once tried reading it in the stars 20:57:57 <Bjarni> <TrueBrain> kind of failed <-- is that why you decided that astronomy wasn't you? 20:58:38 <frosch123> astronomy != astrology 20:59:06 <Rubidium> it's all about stuff you can't physically grasp ;) 20:59:34 <frosch123> with astrology you can earn astronomical amounts of money 21:00:46 *** martinpilkington [~martinpil@91.84.67.203] has left #openttd [] 21:00:48 <Rubidium> I wouldn't call it "earn" 21:01:23 <frosch123> "grift"? 21:01:57 <TrueBrain> frosch123: my joke in this was that I studies astronomy for 3 years, but quit as I failed to do the math courses :) 21:02:07 <TrueBrain> hence my: tried reading it in the stars, but failed ;) 21:02:23 <TrueBrain> so Bjarni was, for a weird chance, right on spot 21:02:41 <TrueBrain> chance = change 21:02:43 <TrueBrain> lol 21:05:00 * glx needs to find a way for my script to use "echo | g++ -E -dM -" 21:05:07 <glx> very nice command 21:05:23 <Rubidium> frosch123: that sounds better 21:07:05 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 21:09:44 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.97] has joined #openttd 21:09:58 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16145 /trunk/src/ (strgen/strgen.cpp table/strgen_tables.h): -Add: '-export-pragmas' to strgen so external tools can (hopefully) automatically be updated to support new pragmas 21:20:13 <glx> even makedepend could benefit from it 21:22:01 <glx> echo | g++ -E -x c++ -dM - <-- even better :) 21:24:13 <frosch123> doesn't that already process #include ? 21:25:00 <glx> no that just list builtin defines 21:25:41 <glx> like __MINGW32__ or __GNUC__ :) 21:26:26 <glx> should be easy to add them to CFLAGS_MAKEDEP 21:27:01 * glx tries 21:27:08 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:32 <SmatZ> [22:44:54] <fjb> Hm is "Assertion failed: (index < this->GetSize()), function Get, file /home/frank/devel/OpenTTD-r16119cadist/src/linkgraph/../oldpool.h, line 125." related to the cargodist patch? <=== whatever linkgraph is, it doesn't have anything in common with clean trunk 21:32:06 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-155-59.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:26 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: sssttt, let him find out on its own :) 21:32:26 <Rubidium> SmatZ: it "only" means that the pool that is being overrun is used in the linkgraph directory 21:32:45 <Rubidium> if the vehicle pool is used in there it could still be the vehicle pool 21:33:14 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-134-131.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 21:33:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:33:46 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yeah, however no trunk files are placed in the linkgraph directory 21:34:07 <SmatZ> but okay, there is still a chance it's a trunk bug :) 21:34:18 <TrueBrain> doubtful, but always possible :) 21:35:24 <SmatZ> :o) 21:41:51 *** genclay is now known as Yeggzzz 21:52:09 <Wolf01> 'night 21:52:14 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host241-236-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:52:36 <frosch123> also night 21:52:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc051.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:21 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:25 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: smatz * r16146 /trunk/src/ (dummy_land.cpp viewport.cpp): -Codechange: use faster algorithm in SetSelectionTilesDirty(). Up to 1000 times faster when large area is selected 22:05:06 <TrueBrain> show-off 22:08:08 <fonsinchen> smatz, I found a lot of bugs today and checked in the results to my git repository. Perhaps you can post the savegame of shortly before the assertion somewhere and then try a new version. 22:08:51 <fonsinchen> The current git version has a bug with displaying the source station in the station GUI, but I think it doesn't crash anymore. 22:09:22 <SmatZ> fonsinchen: I am sorry, I am lost - what topic are you talking about? 22:09:31 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:59 <fonsinchen> ah, I see, you were citing fjb ... 22:10:11 <fonsinchen> forget it then. 22:10:46 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:04 <Yexo> fonsinchen: was there any news on your diagonal leveling patch? 22:11:45 <fonsinchen> yes, after discussion with you I fixed all the problems and uploaded it into my git repository 22:11:52 <fonsinchen> and posted it in the forum topic 22:12:25 <fonsinchen> git: http://fickzoo.com/fonsinchen/openttd.git - branches diaglvl and tileiter 22:12:37 <Yexo> I prefer the patch, that reads easier 22:12:44 <Yexo> saves me the work from making a diff myself 22:12:53 <fonsinchen> forum: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=38148 22:12:58 <Yexo> thanks 22:13:11 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16147 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Feature [FS#2635]: give the town generator a slight tendency to build towns near water by not discarding watery random tiles but by searching for near land (db48x) 22:13:30 <fonsinchen> good night 22:14:01 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc797.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:22:39 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: smatz * r16148 /trunk/src/core/random_func.hpp: -Fix [FS#2839]: misleading comment (part by Bilbo) 22:22:57 <TrueBrain> part? :p 22:23:47 <SmatZ> part of that patch was done by Bilbo 22:23:52 * SmatZ parts Bilbo 22:24:07 <TrueBrain> hehe :) it reads funny 22:24:11 <TrueBrain> part by Bilbo :) 22:24:14 <SmatZ> hehehe 22:24:16 <SmatZ> yeah :) 22:24:23 <TrueBrain> based on patch by, I always use ;) 22:25:01 <SmatZ> too long 22:25:22 <TrueBrain> haha 22:25:26 <TrueBrain> yeah, commit messages are limited in size ;) 22:25:27 <SmatZ> the little note in brackets would be longer than rest of commit message :-p 22:25:32 <TrueBrain> that is why you use parts ;) 22:25:40 <TrueBrain> ghehe 22:26:43 <db48x> Rubidium: thanks :) 22:27:26 <SmatZ> :) /me failed to find Rubidium's longest commit message 22:27:55 <Rubidium> probably a piece of proza about either OSX or Windows doing something stupid 22:29:35 <TrueBrain> @openttd commit 3726 22:29:35 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: Commit by Darkvater :: r3726 /trunk (9 files) (2006-03-02 02:22:15 UTC) 22:29:36 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - [6/6] Finalize conversion, finally save the patches struct. 22:29:37 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - Remove the temporary synchronisation in during the map-transfer as this is no longer needed 22:29:38 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - The saved patches work just like the saved gameoptions. You have a _patches and a _patches_newgame struct. The _patches_newgame struct contains the values from the configuration file and thus the defaults for new games. When a new game is started or an older game is loaded, the default values are copied over to _patches to be used. When you load a game that has PATS saved, the default values are also (1 more message) 22:29:39 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: - The current implementation also changes the default values if you change player-based settings in the game. For example changing window_snap_radius in a certain game will also change it for all next OpenTTD sessions. 22:29:40 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: (...) 22:29:43 <TrueBrain> longest single-line text :) 22:30:13 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: are you sure? 22:30:19 <SmatZ> @openttd commit 14563 22:30:19 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Commit by rubidium :: r14563 /trunk/src (newgrf_industries.cpp newgrf_industrytiles.cpp) (2008-11-03 23:42:07 UTC) 22:30:20 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: -Fix [FS#2395]: in the case that an industry NewGRF, a shared TTDPatch and 22:30:21 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: OpenTTD feature with it's origin in TTDPatch to replace/add/change vehicles 22:30:22 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: (including e.g. maximum speed, graphics and introduction year), stations, 22:30:23 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: bridges, industries, town houses or any other graphics used by either 22:30:24 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: (...) 22:30:32 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: 'svn log' tells me so :) (remember: single line!) 22:30:34 <SmatZ> @more 22:30:34 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. 22:30:47 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: DorpsGek simply doesn't send more lines ;) 22:30:55 <SmatZ> :) 22:31:15 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: people who do a \n before the end of the line .. well ... I can't help that ;) 22:31:32 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: I don't do \n before the end of a line 22:31:40 <TrueBrain> nano does :p 22:31:54 <TrueBrain> or knowing you: joe does 22:32:09 <Rubidium> ah well, who cares ;) 22:32:19 <TrueBrain> nobody, I hope :) 22:32:40 <Rubidium> mine has at least a better commit message to commit ratio ;) 22:32:46 <TrueBrain> local import just hit r7250 ... openttd.org remote import is around 2200 ... 22:33:01 <TrueBrain> oeh, 2870! 22:33:15 <TrueBrain> there where {COMMA16} became {COMMA} 22:34:18 <Rubidium> though IIRC I've had a better commit message to commit ratio once 22:34:31 <SmatZ> :) 22:34:32 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: sounds like ancient TTD-ish stuff 22:34:41 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: r2870 ... what gave that away? 22:35:03 <TrueBrain> 2874 to be exact 22:35:35 <Rubidium> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=StringCodes <- String code 7C 22:38:54 <TrueBrain> what about it? 22:39:14 <TrueBrain> oh, COMMA16 22:40:35 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16149 /trunk/src/ai/ai_instance.cpp: -Fix [FS#2860]: when there's no AI and an AI is started... *boom* 22:47:37 <TrueBrain> WT3 can import r1 till HEAD :) /me is happy with his import-script :) 22:47:48 <TrueBrain> nice to know it understands all the idiot stuff people did over the years :) 22:56:34 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:29 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: yexo * r16150 /trunk/src/ai/api/ (ai_industry.hpp ai_vehicle.hpp ai_waypoint.hpp): 22:57:29 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Fix [NoAI]: Change WAYPOINT_INVALID to 0xFFFF from -1 as that's the value the AIs got (due to casting). 22:57:29 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: Clarify some api documentation. 22:59:21 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:59 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 23:09:29 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:16:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 23:16:32 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest2102 23:16:33 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.166.95] has joined #openttd 23:16:56 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:06 *** Guest2102 [~KenjiE20@92.17.240.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:48 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:05 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-19-62.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:51:37 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: yexo * r16151 /trunk/src/ai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: move some includes around to prevent including half the AI api in non-noai related code. 23:55:09 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 23:59:14 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd