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Log for #openttd on 1st June 2009:
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05:03:47  <z-MaTRiX> hey
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07:29:17  <dihedral> Xaroth: kban is not bashing or flaming, that's just ridding the channel of a user
07:29:47  <dihedral> Rubidium: love your forum post on the 3d stuff :-D
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08:09:09  <petern> bah
08:09:15  <petern> buggy printed music :/
08:10:08  <petern> four quavers on the bass clef, four semiquavers on the treble clef :s
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08:35:30  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16490 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix: Do not draw train details over the scrollbar.
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09:24:32  <z-MaTRiX> Yexo<<"hey there";
09:24:44  <Yexo> hello z-MaTRiX
09:30:39  <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=792837#p792837 <- oh man 'ever' cracks me up :-D
09:32:14  * dihedral laughs his head off :-P
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09:33:56  <petern> you need to get out more :p
09:37:10  <dihedral> hihi :-)
09:37:17  <dihedral> look who's talking :-P
09:51:26  * petern returns from the garden :p
09:51:30  <petern> but, ack
09:51:48  <petern> typical that i have a week off work, and injured my back on friday
09:52:20  <dihedral> no way!
09:52:22  <dihedral> that sucks
10:10:01  <Sacro> http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson63.jpg
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10:12:21  <Benny> Denmark, eh? :D
10:12:32  <Benny> Nooes, he left. xD
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10:21:37  <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=792843#p792843 <- HAHA
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10:31:28  <Sacro> needs a tl;dr at the bottom
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10:52:44  <petern> hmm, i could do with a longer exhaust pipe for my aircon
10:53:14  <Azrael-> get some toilet paper rolls and duct tape 'em together
10:53:42  <petern> heh
10:53:53  <Alberth> use the one of your vacuum cleaner
10:54:20  <petern> don't remember the last time i saw a vacuum cleaner with an exhaust pipe
10:57:14  <dihedral> petern: you could turn that into a sport, speed-vacuum-cleaning (extreme)
11:00:54  <petern> bah, stupidly designed aircon anyway
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11:18:43  <oskari89> @seen Pikka
11:18:43  <DorpsGek> oskari89: Pikka was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 18 hours, 3 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <Pikka> planetmaker: but they still own the copyright
11:19:16  <Benny> !seen Belugas
11:19:21  <Benny> wops
11:19:27  <Benny> wrong command
11:19:32  <Benny> @seen Belugas
11:19:32  <DorpsGek> Benny: Belugas was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 22 hours, 27 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Belugas> still am
11:19:35  <Benny> :D
11:19:54  <Benny> @seen Andel
11:19:54  <DorpsGek> Benny: Andel was last seen in #openttd 6 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, 46 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <Andel> hi eveeee boddeeee!
11:19:59  <Benny> :O
11:24:01  <elmz> @seen Benny
11:24:02  <DorpsGek> elmz: Benny was last seen in #openttd 4 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <Benny> :O
11:24:06  <elmz> oo
11:24:15  <Benny> :D
11:25:35  <Benny> @seen CIA-3
11:25:36  <DorpsGek> Benny: CIA-3 was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16490 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix: Do not draw train details over the scrollbar.
11:25:52  <Benny> @seen Ammler
11:25:53  <DorpsGek> Benny: Ammler was last seen in #openttd 17 hours, 54 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <Ammler> has grfcodec a "hidden" feature, so it does output one line per sprite?
11:25:59  <Sacro> @seen Bjarni
11:26:00  <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 17 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <Bjarni> hmm
11:26:07  <Benny> hmm
11:26:15  <Benny> @seen Sacro
11:26:15  <DorpsGek> Benny: Sacro was last seen in #openttd 15 seconds ago: <Sacro> @seen Bjarni
11:26:19  <Benny> :D
11:26:22  <Sacro> oooh
11:26:23  <frosch123> big kicking time \o/
11:26:29  <Benny> Noo!
11:26:31  <Ammler> guys, use /query
11:26:33  <Sacro> frosch123: nah, Bjarni loves me
11:26:51  <Sacro> @seen /query
11:26:51  <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen /query.
11:26:53  <Sacro> hmm
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11:27:36  <Benny> That bot is dumb.. :P
11:27:50  <Benny> @seen DorpsGek
11:27:50  <DorpsGek> Benny: I have not seen DorpsGek.
11:27:57  <Benny> WWTF!?
11:28:00  <Benny> TEH LULZ!
11:29:30  *** Benny was kicked from #openttd by frosch123 [: query dorpsgek :)]
11:29:45  * Sacro tuts
11:29:48  <Sacro> kids nowadays...
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11:38:11  <dihedral> frosch123: that was your chance ^^
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11:39:08  <frosch123> "what?"
11:39:34  <dihedral> <frosch123>	big kicking time \o/
11:39:40  <dihedral> +++ Rubidium has given op to frosch123
11:39:53  <dihedral> <Benny>	@seen DorpsGek
11:40:09  <dihedral> and then someone like me just sits there and waits and waits and ....
11:40:21  <frosch123> and?
11:40:22  <dihedral> oh
11:40:25  <dihedral> i missed a line :-D
11:40:27  * dihedral hides
11:40:30  <KenjiE20> lol
11:40:36  <Benny> o_O
11:40:37  * dihedral hugs frosch123
11:40:40  <SmatZ> :)
11:40:43  <Benny> o_O o_O
11:40:51  <dihedral> shush ^^
11:40:54  <dihedral> hello SmatZ
11:40:57  <SmatZ> hello dihedral :)
11:41:31  * dihedral is slighly distracted by 'family guy' :-P
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11:43:20  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16491 /trunk/src/ (27 files in 6 dirs): -Codechange: Added parentheses around bitwise operators for code style.
11:43:23  <z-MaTRiX> SmatZ<<"hey there :)";
11:44:10  <SmatZ> hello z-MaTRiX :)
11:49:31  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16492 /trunk/ (15 files in 5 dirs): -Remove: support for gcc2. It hasn't been able to compile OTTD for months. All attempts to do another workaround failed.
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11:58:31  <Noldo> gcc2 is missing all the stdlib containers too, isn't it?
11:58:54  <SmatZ> no
11:59:13  <petern> someone will now come along and complain, as it was working fine for them
11:59:15  <petern> probably
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12:05:02  <dihedral> SmatZ: mind me saying that you and z-MaTRiX seem to have very deeeeeep conversations a few times a day ^^
12:05:51  <SmatZ> :o)
12:05:54  <z-MaTRiX> hehehe
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12:56:01  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16493 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs): -Fix: missing/wrong @file doxygen 'headers'
13:14:42  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16494 /trunk/src/ (settings.cpp train.h train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: cache train's speed limit caused by curves
13:16:44  <Belugas> hello
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13:27:48  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16495 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: Renamed a few variables.
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13:33:56  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16496 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: remove one useless dynamic_cast<>
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13:51:40  <jmiki8> hi
13:53:05  <jmiki8> anybody knows a good tutorial about EMU making?
13:53:07  <jmiki8>
13:53:09  <jmiki8>
13:53:11  <jmiki8>
13:53:24  <Progman> EMU making?
13:53:47  <SmatZ> jmiki8: don't flood
13:53:51  <Sacro> you need a mummy EMU and a daddy EMU that love each other very much
13:54:03  <jmiki8> :D
13:54:06  <dihedral> :-D
13:54:15  <Sacro> the daddy puts his coupler between the mummy's buffers
13:54:25  <dihedral> that's enough Sacro
13:54:25  <jmiki8> XD
13:54:37  <dihedral> dont want to feed the little kid here do you?
13:54:53  <jmiki8> but there is a tutorial about it?
13:54:55  <DorpsGek> hello
13:55:06  <jmiki8> hi
13:55:26  <dihedral> i dont know many people who'd use DorpsGek in that way
13:56:13  <SmatZ> I swapped DorpsGek's parameters while trying to kick jmiki8 :-p
13:56:23  <dihedral> LOL
13:56:41  <dihedral> cute SmatZ :-P
13:56:45  <SmatZ> so I was trying to find out the correct order ;)
13:57:05  <dihedral>  @kick <user> [<reason>]
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13:57:22  <SmatZ> I want to be hidden
13:57:39  <dihedral> /msg DorpsGek kick <user> [<reason>]
13:57:53  <jmiki8> ?
13:58:07  <dihedral> and if you dont put in a reason it'll use your nick SmatZ :-P
13:58:30  <dihedral> or you let Belugas do the dirty work, he's got a bad record anyway :-D
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13:59:24  <jmiki8> @
13:59:39  <dihedral> need any help jmiki8
13:59:44  <Eddi|zuHause> <dihedral> /msg DorpsGek kick <user> [<reason>] <- am i the only person thinking that this is dangerously ambiguous as to which channel to kick from?
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13:59:56  <SmatZ> ;-)
14:00:02  <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause: ops true :-P
14:00:26  <dihedral> then it's /msg DorpsGek kick #channel <user> [<reason>]
14:00:32  <SmatZ> it's "kick channel user", but I did "channel kick user"
14:00:44  <dihedral> oh :-D
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14:02:08  <SmatZ> hello jmiki8
14:02:40  <jmiki8> hello, i was there a long- long time ago
14:03:00  <jmiki8> i think 2 mins ago :)
14:03:02  <dihedral> haven't we all :-P
14:03:38  <Eddi|zuHause> you know it's the internet age when people think 2 minutes is a long, long time
14:04:16  <dihedral> :-P
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14:04:31  <dihedral> "what's your job?" - "i work as a packet filter" :-P
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14:04:56  <jmiki8> student :P
14:05:26  <jmiki8> but i make ***** GRFs
14:05:50  <jmiki8> minus ***** :D
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14:06:19  <dihedral> can someone fix that new bot? it's monologuing  again :-P
14:06:22  <dihedral> ah
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14:09:59  <Sacro> Prof_Frink: i just lost the game :(
14:10:18  <KingJ> Thanks to you, the entire channel just lost the game
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14:10:48  <planetmaker> hm. gone
14:12:01  <Belugas> mmh?
14:12:20  <Belugas> bad record? doing what?
14:12:37  <Belugas> oh.. kicking...
14:13:02  <planetmaker> hi Belugas
14:13:03  * Belugas resumes work and thinks this was an insignificant reason of highlight
14:13:05  <Belugas> hey
14:13:07  <Belugas> bye
14:13:49  * petern ponders getting some beers in for tonight
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14:16:35  <welshdragon> a warning to you all: do not click my link here > http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43772&p=792881#p792881 as bad things will happen
14:17:12  <Xaroth> welshdragon: that should be punishable by death
14:18:01  <Progman> if you want to rick'roll you should change the youtube link as the id in the url is well known to everybody
14:18:27  <SmatZ> pron? on my YT?
14:18:47  <Sacro> is it as well known as that tt-forums topic number?
14:19:10  <Progman> not even close of course...
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14:22:19  <Belugas> [10:17] * @petern ponders getting some beers in for tonight  <- something special to celebrate or enjoy?
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14:23:52  <frosch123> just to usual task to get drunken the night before going to work
14:29:34  <dihedral> hehe
14:30:40  <Belugas> lucky guy then.  my wife disallows, as i snore when drunk
14:30:40  <Belugas> or so she says
14:30:46  <SmatZ> haha
14:30:54  <SmatZ> I snore when I am not drunk too
14:31:04  <SmatZ> so she doesn't mind
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14:34:57  <Belugas> hehe
14:35:04  <Belugas> lucky guys
14:36:20  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16497 /trunk/src/ (terraform_gui.cpp terraform_gui.h toolbar_gui.cpp): -Feature [FS#2870]: Q/W/E/D will now open the landscape toolbar and select appropriate tool
14:38:48  <dihedral> NicE one SmatZ
14:39:07  <SmatZ> ;)
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14:51:51  <Eddi|zuHause> yay :)
14:52:21  <Eddi|zuHause> i was totally missing that
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14:58:52  * Belugas removes Metallica from playlist. do not feel like that today
14:59:38  * Alberth offers Zooropa
15:01:11  <Belugas> mmh... good idea, but none available in here...
15:01:15  <Belugas> thanks anyway
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15:01:51  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: frosch * r16498 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Remove hardly used HASBITS.
15:02:45  * Belugas keeps on discovering TV On The Radio, then programs some Peter Gabriel
15:04:54  <planetmaker> hm... hardly used? ;)
15:05:24  <Alberth> & is much quicker and easier :p
15:06:53  <frosch123> esp. easier to type
15:08:29  <planetmaker> hehe :)
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15:54:36  <petern> ow
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16:52:26  <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Yes, yes you did.
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17:32:31  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: translators * r16499 /trunk/src/lang/ (luxembourgish.txt unfinished/serbian.txt):
17:32:31  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-06-01 17:32:36
17:32:31  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 3 fixed, 11 changed by *jigo* (14)
17:32:31  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: serbian - 105 fixed by etran (105)
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17:47:56  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16500 /branches/0.7/src/lang/ (37 files in 2 dirs): [0.7] -Backport: lots of changed strings from trunk
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17:50:21  <planetmaker> uh... I sell a 0.7.1
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17:50:46  <Bjarni> you want to sell 0.7.1?
17:50:57  <Bjarni> is it RC2 or the real thing?
17:50:58  <planetmaker> grr... *smell :D
17:51:21  <Bjarni> I can't smell anything like that right now
17:51:34  <Bjarni> but then again I smelled quite a lot so far this weekend
17:51:39  <planetmaker> but anyone who wants to purchase 0.7.1 from me is free to apply. I'll happily ship it for 5EUR a copy plus packaging and handling
17:51:47  <Bjarni> today is my 3rd day in a row at the railroad
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17:51:58  <planetmaker> uh... that's a lot :)
17:52:03  <Bjarni> so I smelled diesel, coal, oil and stuff quite a lot
17:52:42  <Rubidium> planetmaker: when will it be delivered to me?
17:52:54  <planetmaker> Rubidium: when it's done ;)
17:53:13  <planetmaker> I'll ship upon availability, though
17:53:14  <Rubidium> planetmaker: that's just not good enough if I pay those 5 euros now
17:53:17  <Bjarni> planetmaker: it's called "when it's done(TM)"
17:53:57  <planetmaker> isn't it? :) then I'll refund you, if you're too impatient :)
17:54:19  <Bjarni> +interests
17:55:34  <planetmaker> Well. you want a 0.7.1? I can make you one :P --revision=0.7.1 and I'm done :P
17:55:52  * frosch123 is quite sure it won't be RC2
17:55:57  <planetmaker> :)
17:57:56  <Rubidium> planetmaker: do you compile other versions too?
17:58:06  <Rubidium> like e.g. r16500?
17:58:41  <Bjarni> ie 31337
17:59:26  <Rubidium> Bjarni: 031337 is already released a long time ago
17:59:53  <planetmaker> I compile r3.141592
18:00:17  <planetmaker> r16500 is currently out of stock
18:00:51  <Prof_Frink> planetmaker: TeX?
18:01:01  <planetmaker> :)
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18:09:35  <Ammler> http://shop.planetmaker.de/ <-- I need the login to your shop ;-)
18:09:46  <planetmaker> tsk :)
18:10:24  <planetmaker> I guess the number of available logins there is quite limited ;)
18:10:34  <Ammler> admin and 1234 ?
18:10:55  <Alberth> guest and guest may work
18:11:13  <Ammler> admin and setup, iirc
18:11:25  <Alberth> or 'give' and 'money' ;)
18:11:28  <planetmaker> exactly :)
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18:20:43  <beaves> somebody there?
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18:22:18  <Rubidium> occasionally there is somebody 'there'
18:22:19  <planetmaker> no everybody is gone.
18:23:03  <beaves> only english?
18:23:18  <planetmaker> chance are that you'll get flamed otherwise.
18:23:41  <Rubidium> yup, my Chinese is rusty (if existant at all)
18:24:52  <planetmaker> a good way to start is to actually ask the question which you set out to ask :)
18:26:45  <Hirundo> "To get a good answer, ask a Smart Question" implies that you have to ask the question in the first place :)
18:27:12  <planetmaker> :)
18:27:20  <frosch123> wiki.openttd.org <- generic answer
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18:28:11  <beaves_> how old must be a company to trade with shares?
18:28:28  <Rubidium> 6 years and the option must be enabled
18:29:11  <beaves_> thx
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18:40:32  <andythenorth> frosch: not that I want to bug you with nfo requests, but any more thoughts about stations on water?  I am drawing some water-built industries, and including helipads (or not) could make a difference of several hours to the graphics :)  http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=43704
18:40:57  <oskari89> Hmmmm.
18:41:36  <frosch123> andythenorth: the just drop the helipad :) and leave it to the user for now to not send aircraft there :p
18:42:20  <andythenorth> well that's a pragmatic suggestion, but it's going to attract plenty of forum questions  :|
18:42:56  <frosch123> or we can add a special flag to disallow aircraft. ships only seems to be fine, but more fine tuning of aircraft is too hacky without fsm
18:43:37  <andythenorth> I can do without aircraft :)
18:45:01  <oskari89> It is anyway possible to have canals with locks? :)
18:45:32  <oskari89> On code side, what it would have to do it animated, like ship rising and falling in canal? :)
18:45:36  <oskari89> Steady.
18:45:52  <frosch123> you mean like ttdp?
18:46:13  <oskari89> Hmm, i haven't seen that in ttdp?
18:46:31  <oskari89> Any screenshots?
18:46:45  <DaleStan> What you describe sounds at least somewhat like TTDPatch's handling of locks.
18:46:51  <frosch123> there ships drive to the middle of the lock, then change height, and continue driving
18:47:08  <frosch123> though there are now graphics for water rising and lowering and such
18:47:23  <frosch123> but the ship movement works as long as you do not skip orders inside the lock :p
18:47:44  <frosch123> (or at least what I remember)
18:47:54  <oskari89> Okay.
18:48:13  <frosch123> if you want more, you can discuss with Eddi|zuHause about fsm and newobjects :p
18:48:33  <Eddi|zuHause> what?
18:48:39  <oskari89> Would the same be possible in OTTD? :)
18:48:44  <Eddi|zuHause> you mixing up persons?
18:48:58  <frosch123> am I? hmm, who was it then?
18:49:13  <Eddi|zuHause> depends on what you are referring to
18:50:02  <frosch123> placing newobjects somewhere in the landscape which can be entered and left by vehicles, with some weird movement inside
18:51:34  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i talked about things like that, but that does not make me an expert on FSMs ;)
18:52:44  <frosch123> I just wanted to redirect the feature requests :p
18:52:45  <Eddi|zuHause> there was RichK with his newgrf-ports, and pikka with an action-based variant
18:54:09  <andythenorth> Can anyone tell me the station radius for the 'dock' in an oilrig-type station?  I've tried working it out by building factories in increasing radius from an oilrig station to watch the acceptance change, but it's painful and not convincingly accurate  :P
18:57:15  <frosch123> four with "modified catchment area" off, five with on
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18:57:50  <frosch123> resp. just imagine a dock consisting of a single tile under the station sign
18:59:29  <andythenorth> thanks
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19:04:39  <dihedral> quack
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19:25:26  <Ammler> m?h
19:26:27  <Xaroth> o_O
19:26:33  <Xaroth> Ammler|sheep
19:26:36  <Xaroth> dihedral|duck
19:26:43  <Xaroth> old mc'ttd had a farm?
19:26:46  <Benny> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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19:28:14  <welshdragon> wtf?
19:28:17  * frosch123 knew that it's belugas' shift :)
19:28:25  <Belugas> lol
19:28:33  <welshdragon> Belugas: having a good time there>?
19:28:35  <dihedral> HAHA
19:28:42  * dihedral hugs Belugas
19:28:44  <Belugas> yup
19:28:47  <Belugas> kinda
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19:28:55  <dihedral> hilarious
19:29:04  <Benny> What was that?
19:29:10  <dihedral> fun
19:29:16  <dihedral> that's what it's called
19:29:18  <Benny> No.
19:29:23  <dihedral> a sense of humor :-P
19:29:29  <Benny> A bad one. :d
19:29:37  <dihedral> then clearly you lack it :-)
19:29:39  <dihedral> hihi
19:29:51  <Benny> I lack a bad sense of humor, yes.
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19:29:58  <Benny> 'Cause mine is good.
19:30:02  <dihedral> you lack any sense at all
19:30:10  <Benny> You don't say? :D
19:30:15  <dihedral> else you could have had a smile at that kick
19:30:28  <Benny> I HAD!
19:30:30  <Benny> I think..
19:30:47  <dihedral> you had a long time to think :-P
19:30:56  <Benny> What do you mean?
19:30:58  <dihedral> you were out for a full minute
19:31:05  <Belugas> humour is always relvative
19:31:09  <Belugas> relative
19:31:16  <Benny> I typed  /reconnect and not /rejoin
19:31:21  <Benny> :P
19:31:26  <dihedral> :-D
19:31:32  <Prof_Frink> Benny (VS/A1)
19:31:45  <Benny> HUMOR:  Belugas has got one.
19:32:03  <Belugas> by the way, Benny, highlighting people just to play with DorpsGek, not funny
19:32:04  <Benny> Or, well. At least a sense of humor.
19:32:08  <Belugas> really not
19:32:38  <Benny> I just found a new command and had to test it. But okay, sorry.
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19:33:46  <dihedral> some bots allow you to chat with them in private ;-)
19:34:04  <Benny> Check it out! Type /msg *your nick*  *Some text*
19:34:07  <Benny> :D
19:34:18  <Benny> You can chat with yourself!
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19:34:39  <dihedral> hoo hoo
19:34:42  <Nite_Owl> Hello all
19:34:46  <Benny> Hi.
19:34:46  <dihedral> :-)
19:35:13  <Nite_Owl> Hello Benny & dihedral
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19:42:55  <andythenorth> hmm, I'm new here, what's the usual level of wtf moments?  The logs are not encouraging in that respect :)
19:44:19  <Yexo> There is quite a bit off-topic talk here if that's what you're asking
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19:44:58  <oskari89> :P
19:45:03  <andythenorth> ok thanks  :P
19:45:05  <oskari89> *yawn*
19:46:20  <andythenorth> How wide do *you* think a fishing boat dock should be? 1 tile?  0.5 tiles?
19:46:44  <planetmaker> andythenorth: depends upon the size of the fishing boat :)
19:46:56  <andythenorth> ha good answer
19:46:57  <planetmaker> given the usual size... one tile doesn't hurt
19:47:06  <Nite_Owl> andythenorth - maker of great grfs - it is just quiet here at the moment
19:47:12  <andythenorth> I think 1 tile too.  looks better
19:48:09  <Belugas> hey andythenorth
19:48:19  <andythenorth> hey
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19:48:43  <planetmaker> andythenorth: maybe 1 tile length, half tile width
19:48:54  <Belugas> it's good to have a new INTELIGENT comer in this channel :P
19:49:23  <andythenorth> I'd say that remains to be proven  8)
19:49:53  <dihedral> Belugas: flattering words :-P
19:50:21  <dihedral> andythenorth: you've been in here for a few minutes, without being bashed - that's already something to celebrate :-P
19:51:07  <andythenorth> I don't seem to have been kicked yet either  d:)
19:51:39  <dihedral> oh - in a lot of the cases a kick is just like a hug
19:51:41  <dihedral> :-P
19:51:48  * dihedral pokes Belugas in the side :-D
19:52:00  <Belugas> well... judging by your conversations on the forums, i'd say you're better than quite a few ones
19:52:16  <Belugas> better than Nekomaster too, but that's not too hard to beat!
19:52:24  <dihedral> :-D
19:52:30  <dihedral> SirXavius comes to mind also
19:52:33  <dihedral> oh my
19:52:40  <dihedral> i so wish he joined this channel
19:52:56  <dihedral> and i am glad 'ever' never shows up
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19:52:58  <Alberth> he wouldn't know how fast to pull the plug :)
19:53:07  <dihedral> he'd flood the channel every time he had a question or an idea
19:53:45  <Nite_Owl> send out invitations
19:53:49  <dihedral> SirXavius is fun though - he wrote how many pages of rubbish without ever continuing his line of thought after a week?
19:53:57  <dihedral> and never showed us a line of code
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19:54:20  <Yexo> did SirXavius write that ottd+500 topic?
19:54:40  <frosch123> dihedral: don't say that, he worked 3 years on those topics, so he might show up with an implementation in another 3 years :)
19:55:07  <frosch123> Yexo: what do you mean by "that"? :p
19:55:09  <dihedral> eh...?
19:55:26  <dihedral> Yexo: yes, he did
19:55:27  <Yexo> frosch123: well, it's one topic now, isn't it?
19:55:31  <Nite_Owl> that = all of them
19:55:33  <dihedral> :-)
19:55:47  <Ammler> he thought about 3 years, how to split the topic and petern merged them in 3 mins.
19:55:58  <frosch123> :)
19:56:03  <dihedral> HAHA
19:56:07  <dihedral> oh my
19:56:11  <dihedral> this is funny
19:56:32  <andythenorth> hmm well I'm only here to ask when underground stations will be done.  When will it be done?
19:56:41  <dihedral> it's cute how he can write so much rubbish and not even come up with a dirty hack
19:56:54  <dihedral> baaaad andythenorth
19:56:57  <dihedral> baaaaaaaaad
19:57:03  <Yexo> andythenorth: didn't you know the famous someone will code it?
19:57:03  <dihedral> sit!
19:57:13  <Belugas> ever is a good guy.  He has a strong head, a rich mind. SirXavius is fool of himself and like to see his fingers typing
19:57:22  <dihedral> you could ask SirXavious :-P
19:57:37  <dihedral> never said ever was an idiot
19:57:49  <dihedral> he just needs a lot of lines to express his feelings
19:58:03  <Nite_Owl> brevity is the soul of wit
19:58:12  <andythenorth> @yexo, It's funny, this afternoon I found out I actually employ 'someone' in my business.  at least two of them it seems
19:58:22  <SmatZ> andythenorth: you are maybe 20th asking here
19:58:31  <SmatZ> for that :-p
19:58:49  <Yexo> andythenorth: good to know, next time we have a job for someone we'll give it to you :p
19:59:01  <frosch123> SmatZ: are you sure? usually such stuff is only asked on the forums
19:59:10  <andythenorth> SmatZ: hmm, is there an irony button in IRC?  Maybe someone could add one
19:59:15  <dihedral> Belugas: ever writs forEVER and a day ^^ and not a lot of people will care to read that
19:59:34  <Belugas> true
19:59:41  <Belugas> but he did took the time to think
19:59:45  <andythenorth> yexo: that's fine, when someone has finished the job, someone can send it back to you :)
19:59:49  <dihedral> we dont call it button andythenorth - it's a KNOBB :-D
19:59:50  <Belugas> and he's often right
19:59:53  <frosch123> andythenorth: irony only works if you postfix it with ":)" or prefix it with "/kick"
19:59:57  <SmatZ> frosch123: maybe not 20th... but people who don't want to register at forums ask here ;) or ask at forums, and when nobody replies, they ask here
20:00:07  <dihedral> Belugas: even Alain took the time to .... 'think'
20:00:38  <Belugas> alain? come on...
20:00:49  <dihedral> it's in quotes! :-P
20:00:54  <Belugas> ho..
20:00:56  <Belugas> right
20:01:08  <dihedral> he thought he thought :-D
20:01:19  <Yexo> Alain came a lot further then I expected when I read his first posts
20:01:31  <planetmaker> indeed :)
20:01:37  <dihedral> true
20:01:44  <Belugas> yeah. one thing good to say about him is his tenacity
20:01:45  <frosch123> who is Alain ?
20:01:54  <Belugas> forum guy
20:01:55  <dihedral> i still loved my line saying that he managed to go from 0 to 1 on a scale from 1 to 10 :-D
20:02:01  <Belugas> it's 2007Alain2007
20:02:03  <Belugas> or something
20:02:13  <frosch123> oh yes, with those numbers he looks familiar :)
20:02:15  <dihedral> yeah
20:02:25  <dihedral> the pach pack master
20:02:27  <Nite_Owl> megapatch king
20:02:33  <andythenorth> hmm, ever had some useful thoughts.  I don't necessarily agree with him, but he's helping me figure a few things out about the industrial economy.  (on which I have been banging my head for a while)
20:02:35  <dihedral> and compiling with tortoisesvn
20:03:00  <dihedral> andythenorth: you telling us you actually read one of 'ever's books?
20:03:12  <dihedral> HAHA - you see what i did there? :-P
20:04:33  * frosch123 will now loose his operator status :`(
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20:04:42  <dihedral> hehe
20:04:46  * dihedral waves
20:09:55  <Nite_Owl> as frosch123 rides slowly off into the sunset dihedral can but wave at his departing <noun needed>
20:10:51  * Nite_Owl apologizes in advance for the Mad-Lib
20:11:28  <dihedral> having a poetical moment are we? :P
20:11:51  <Belugas> #This Time You've gone too far
20:12:04  <Belugas> #I told you I told you I Told you
20:12:46  <dihedral> i am off to bedd
20:12:51  <Alberth> bye
20:12:52  <dihedral> goodely nightely
20:12:53  <dihedral> ^^
20:13:00  <Nite_Owl> A bee in Belugas' bonnet
20:13:18  <Nite_Owl> later dihedral
20:16:36  <Belugas> A beer in Belugas' pocket
20:17:43  <Nite_Owl> much thirst quenchier then a bee
20:17:51  <Eddi|zuHause> next thing we know is dihedral teaching us bible verses...
20:20:26  <Belugas> hum...
20:20:38  <Belugas> don't go there Eddi|zuHause ;)
20:20:46  <Belugas> PLEEEEEEEASSSEEEEEE!
20:23:54  <Belugas> #Don't give up Don' give up Don't give up
20:24:27  <Alberth> joan jett ?
20:24:45  <Belugas> Peter Gabriel :)
20:25:02  <Belugas> So album
20:25:06  <Belugas> with Kate Bush
20:25:08  <Belugas> miam!
20:25:28  <Rubidium> too bad it isn't '5' yet, right?
20:26:10  <Belugas> :)
20:26:17  <Belugas> yeah, i'd be leaving you alone ;)
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20:45:30  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16501 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: Introduced different phases in resizing a nested widget tree.
20:48:02  <Eddi|zuHause> now the fun starts ;)
20:48:30  <Alberth> we are going to have fun?
20:49:02  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, molesting the widgets ;)
20:49:49  <Alberth> I was thinking more to replace them.
20:50:08  <Alberth> but you must have another 60KB of patience
20:53:40  <Hirundo> What about the 'shade windows' patch?
20:54:14  <petern> what about it?
20:54:52  <Prof_Frink> Hirundo: I read that as "shake windows"... openttd meets compiz!
20:55:31  <Alberth> i like the idea, but it will break in the nested widget system, so that needs to be fixed first.
20:56:45  <Alberth> also I think there is a bug in it. when you disable shading while a window is near the bottom, the code does not seem to move the window up.
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20:59:08  * Belugas rushes home now
20:59:10  <Belugas> tourlou
20:59:30  <Nite_Owl> later Belugas
21:00:07  <Eddi|zuHause> the nested widgets system should be easily adaptible to hiding all child widgets, shouldn't it?
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21:00:39  <andythenorth> hmm bedtime
21:01:08  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: once fully in place
21:01:13  <Alberth> yes, it is. The question is really a) how to do it (there are several options), and  b) whether it can be generalized further
21:01:14  <Nite_Owl> later andythenorth
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21:01:36  <Alberth> (to more than 2 states)
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21:02:02  <Alberth> eg is the small finances window also a form of shading?
21:02:05  <Eddi|zuHause> you mean like the finance window, which has a minimized and expanded state?
21:02:33  <Alberth> yes
21:03:15  <Alberth> I haven't really thought about these issues, too busy with hooking the nested widgets into the existing windowing system.
21:05:57  <Eddi|zuHause> that's certainly not a trivial job, operating on a living organism
21:06:00  <Alberth> and of course, if you have a widget appearing at 2 of the three pages, how do you write that down as a tree in nwidget parts?
21:06:55  <Eddi|zuHause> well, that's not a tree anymore, it's an acyclic graph
21:07:11  <Alberth> you just build an alternative implementation for every function that used widgets, until you have them all :p
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21:08:38  <Alberth> yeah, but you cannot specify such a graph easily in nested widget parts. So is it really such a good idea to extend in that direction?
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21:10:24  <Alberth> and before you know it, you have landed in a sea of questions.
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21:11:45  <Alberth> well, this is where I am stuck now.
21:12:34  <Alberth> I'd be happy to discuss it further, but not now, I need to sleep, and write lots more of stupid 3 line wrapper functions tomorrow.
21:12:40  <Eddi|zuHause> i see, you certainly have fun ;)
21:13:09  <Eddi|zuHause> i have a rule... i stay as far away from GUI code as i can
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21:15:54  <Alberth> me too, I just write a generic system to allow other users write gui's :)
21:19:29  <Alberth> bye
21:19:45  <Nite_Owl> later Alberth
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22:00:28  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16502 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
22:00:28  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#2935]: when an AI was suspended while in a function called (indirectly) via call/acall/pcall OpenTTD crashed. Fix this by disallowing AIs to be suspended while called via call/acall/pcall.
22:00:28  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: IMPORTANT FOR AI WRITERS: AIs can no longer call any DoCommand functions (change
22:00:28  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: anything, build vehicles, etc.) in a function called (indirectly) via
22:00:30  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: call/acall/pcall. Where possible, please rewrite your code so it doesn't use
22:00:30  <CIA-3> OpenTTD: call/acall/pcall
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22:59:50  <dragonhorseboy> hey
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23:03:40  <planetmaker> hehe. No patience :)
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23:06:12  <Belugas> nope
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