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whole rewrite, so figured staying in the 1 series would be stupid 07:33:55 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:39:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.161.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:06 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:40:49 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 07:43:16 <dihedral> Xaroth, the topic says version 0.1.1.11 :-D 07:43:36 <dihedral> majer.minor.bugfix.bugbugfixfix? 07:46:08 <planetmaker> moin 07:46:14 <planetmaker> andythenorth, here? 07:46:47 <dihedral> hello planetmaker 07:47:25 <planetmaker> hey dihedral :) 07:48:32 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 07:53:26 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 08:01:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051054076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:16:01 *** worldemar [~Ayu@62.106.107.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:19:48 *** 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.. or something 09:16:19 <Xaroth> or major minor build revion, whatever :P 09:16:28 <Xaroth> last number shows the sourceforge revision 09:19:09 *** elmz [~elmz@ti0207a340-dhcp0361.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:19:38 <Xaroth> i must admit that i did an extra commit just to make sure it was 0.1.1.11 tho.. but that was just because i was being in a funny mood 09:22:59 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-28.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:25:08 <dihedral> hehe 09:25:11 <dihedral> cute :-P 09:28:13 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 09:33:09 *** worldemar [~Ayu@85.114.172.150] has joined #openttd 09:48:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B832AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:31 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B816DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:51:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:52:44 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You can download lots of different binaries from this place: 11:19:59 <fonsinchen> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/cargodist/ 11:19:59 <fonsinchen> Thanks TrueBrain for compiling, Ammler for hosting, Yexo for saying OK. 11:21:22 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@2001:1af8:fe2e:115::2] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:21:24 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 11:21:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 11:21:47 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-16-69.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: no. just, no.] 11:24:05 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:49 *** reldred1 [~reldred@202-6-138-234.static.adam.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:28:10 *** reldred2 [~reldred@115.131.209.51] has joined #openttd 11:28:11 *** reldred2 [~reldred@115.131.209.51] has quit [] 11:28:25 *** reldred2 [~reldred@115.131.209.51] has joined #openttd 11:31:10 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.209.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:35 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.230.203] has joined #openttd 11:34:54 *** reldred1 [~reldred@202-6-138-234.static.adam.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:27 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:38:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:30 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 11:39:18 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:42:28 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:40 *** elmz [~elmz@ti0207a340-dhcp0361.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:48:08 *** michi_cc [michi@2a01:4d0:12::10] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:49:08 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 11:49:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 11:54:39 <Chruker> heh, what happens if a ship and the submarine 'collides'? 11:57:37 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:27 <planetmaker> they don't. 11:59:53 <planetmaker> or have you seen two ships collide? 11:59:57 <Chruker> aww, I hope the ship would sink 12:00:23 <planetmaker> I haven't played for long with desasters, though. 12:01:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:03:32 <petern> what about disasters? 12:03:35 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:20 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 12:08:03 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 12:11:15 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.9.255.86] has joined #openttd 12:11:19 <insulfrog> hi 12:16:06 <dihedral> planetmaker, the question was what happens IF they collide, not DO they collide :-P 12:17:49 <planetmaker> ex falso quot libet :) 12:18:19 <dihedral> who? 12:19:33 <planetmaker> *quotlibet 12:20:36 <planetmaker> not even then... my latin gets rusty :( : *quodlibet 12:21:46 <planetmaker> in other words: whatever you like may be your answer :) 12:27:26 <dihedral> the word 'may' disturbs me :-P 12:28:05 *** reldred2 [~reldred@115.131.209.51] has left #openttd [] 12:29:05 <planetmaker> yes. It's not true anymore this month :P 12:30:39 <dihedral> ^^ 12:37:05 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:45 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 12:43:44 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.9.255.86] has left #openttd [] 12:50:53 *** SinHarvest [~chatzilla@123-243-102-177.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:56:28 <SinHarvest> Hmmmmm I backed myself into a stupid corner... 12:57:35 <SinHarvest> I have a tram track running into a building and the track ends at the building instead of having the curved/roundabout ending 12:58:06 <SinHarvest> I could just remove it but a tram is actually on the track and I can't get it to reverse either XD 12:58:21 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:58:26 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 12:59:25 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:06 * Belugas wishes good to all 13:07:13 <Belugas> and to the others too 13:08:35 <Belugas> mmh.. 13:08:42 <Belugas> good +day.. of course... 13:08:48 * Belugas runs for coffee 13:11:21 *** SinHarvest [~chatzilla@123-243-102-177.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 13:17:40 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e914:ad5a:8dcf:56db] has joined #openttd 13:17:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:18:39 <dihedral> i hate migrating cvs 2 svn 13:18:43 <dihedral> i cannot see it any longer 13:18:44 <dihedral> grrrr 13:27:06 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:33:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16508 /branches/0.7/ (10 files in 9 dirs): 13:33:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 13:33:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Base graphics names must be unique, so do not add duplicates (r16503) 13:33:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] When an AI was suspended while in a function called (indirectly) via call/acall/pcall OpenTTD crashed. Fix this by disallowing AIs to be suspended while called via call/acall/pcall [FS#2935] (r16502) 13:46:35 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:56 <Rubidium> yup, ping timeouts are a standard error 13:49:33 <planetmaker> pong... ;) 13:49:45 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 13:50:52 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:25 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-113-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:28 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176254218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:59:02 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:58 <andythenorth> FIRS thread: "[quote="***"]Someone really ought to make some awesome isometric axis flipper rotator cropper tool for image editing.[/quote]....guess the quote anyone :) 14:00:04 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 14:00:37 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:57 <Rubidium> andythenorth: You ? 14:02:02 <andythenorth> ahem. guess again? you might be guessing forever 14:03:20 <Rubidium> nope, I'm only limited to about 2**48 options, which is finite not infinite 14:04:04 <andythenorth> how many kinds of infinity are there by the way? It's > 1 apparently 14:04:40 <Rubidium> it's infinite 14:05:02 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051054076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:10 <Rubidium> ? + 1 = ? 14:06:14 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:06:14 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 14:12:43 <planetmaker> andythenorth, two kinds: countable and uncountable 14:12:46 <z-MaTRiX> are you sure? 14:13:36 <z-MaTRiX> 1/?=0 ? 14:14:09 <planetmaker> yes 14:14:43 <planetmaker> n / oo = 0 for all n except n = +/- oo 14:14:52 <planetmaker> and n not complex 14:14:58 <planetmaker> but even then. 14:14:59 <theholyduck> 9000*? ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND! 14:15:01 <theholyduck> or not 14:15:03 <theholyduck> :P 14:15:11 <theholyduck> 9001 rather 14:15:22 <theholyduck> but yeah, 9000*? = ? 14:15:24 <theholyduck> i guess 14:15:33 <planetmaker> I don't need to guess :) 14:15:39 <z-MaTRiX> ok so 1=9000 14:15:43 <planetmaker> no 14:15:53 <planetmaker> oo / oo is not defined 14:16:08 <dihedral> oh boy 14:16:30 <Rubidium> planetmaker: but you just defined it 14:16:37 <planetmaker> you can only operate with oo as a limit 14:16:55 <planetmaker> Rubidium, ? 14:17:40 <Rubidium> "oo / oo" = "not defined" is a definition 14:17:52 <planetmaker> :D 14:18:57 <z-MaTRiX> :) 14:19:53 <planetmaker> what's the value of lim x->0 sin(1/x) ? 14:20:18 *** Kage_Dragon [~chatzilla@24-138-109-98.zing-net.ca] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:20:45 <planetmaker> Rubidium, technically I didn't put an equation sign there. 14:21:19 <planetmaker> :P 14:22:58 *** Kage_Dragon [~chatzilla@24-138-109-98.zing-net.ca] has joined #openttd 14:25:19 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet696.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:27:12 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> how many kinds of infinity are there by the way? It's > 1 apparently <- there are countably infinitely many cardinality-numbers (aleph 1 == countable infinity, aleph 2 = uncountable infinity, then it goes on with aleph_3, aleph_4 and so on) 14:27:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but it is unproven whether these are all kinds of infinity 14:27:38 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiw83.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 14:27:56 <Eddi|zuHause> aleph_{n+1} = 2^aleph_n 14:28:21 <dihedral> so after aleph 2 they all have an underscore? 14:29:00 <Eddi|zuHause> if a set X has cardinality aleph_n, then the set of subsets of X has cardinality aleph_{n+1} 14:29:01 <dihedral> my word Eddi|zuHause, that line has so much inconsistency :-P 14:29:12 <andythenorth> does any of this help with 'when will it be done?' 14:29:34 <dihedral> yes, it gives you something to do during the time you have to wait 14:30:00 <andythenorth> any idea how long we'll all be waiting? 14:30:00 <z-MaTRiX> 1/?=0 => 0*?=1 ? 14:30:29 <dihedral> andythenorth, you ask really silly questions 14:30:29 <dihedral> why dont you open a thread in the forums for that? 14:30:34 <dihedral> perhaps SirXavius has something to say to that 14:30:42 <dihedral> ever probably has something to say too :-D 14:31:11 <andythenorth> and the prize for guessing the quote above goes to dihedral (by default) 14:31:24 <Rubidium> does 1*0=0 => 0/0 = 1? 14:31:39 <dihedral> andythenorth, where? 14:31:51 <dihedral> where is the bus? 14:32:04 <andythenorth> [url=http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=793369#p793369]Subject: FIRS Industry Replacement Set (not yet released!)[/url] 14:32:21 <andythenorth> (oops forgot to trim sorry) 14:32:32 <dihedral> where is the bus with the people inside it who want to know? 14:32:54 <Eddi|zuHause> they are just arriving at hilbert's hotel 14:32:58 *** Plimmer [~Plimmer@x1-6-00-50-7f-bf-a4-d2.k402.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 14:33:02 <dihedral> ^^ 14:33:12 <Eddi|zuHause> and the hotel manager is busy reorganizing the rooms 14:33:21 <andythenorth> I wonder if my pixels will have moved themselves around into the right shapes while I'm reading this? 14:33:39 <andythenorth> ...nope they didn'. I'd better draw something I guess. 14:33:46 <dihedral> you have pixels in other shapes than square? 14:34:14 <andythenorth> does 'configurations' work better? 'arrangement'? 'disbursement'?? 14:34:47 <dihedral> why dont you go for a walk? walk across the motorway to enjoy the sunset :-P 14:35:04 <dihedral> just kidding andythenorth 14:36:15 <andythenorth> I'm finishing a fishing harbour. It has versions for NW-SE and SW-NE shores. Does it *need* versions for other shores? It's only about 64 pixels different, but I've found 10 ways to avoid drawing the bloody things so far :) 14:37:17 <Rubidium> always... more is better, ain't it? 14:37:31 <theholyduck> dihedral, well certain monitors/videos have non square pixels 14:37:31 <theholyduck> :P 14:37:45 <theholyduck> dvds for example 14:37:57 * dihedral clicks another nick to the ignore list 14:38:17 <andythenorth> Too much drawing industries probably. Maybe I should draw a bulldozer. Maybe I don't have enough yet (10 at the last count) 14:38:18 <theholyduck> hmm, did i really deserve that? 14:38:28 <dihedral> that list nearly has more patterns than this channel users :-D 14:38:42 <theholyduck> also, to my defense, i was just talking in #Mplayer :P 14:39:18 <andythenorth> theholyduck: not if we were discussing video post-production, but as we're not...seems fair :) Hey, on another day, you might have been a great help 14:39:30 <dihedral> theholyduck, you aint the lua duck are you? 14:39:35 <theholyduck> dihedral, no 14:39:35 <theholyduck> :P 14:39:58 <theholyduck> i've been the holyduck for.... 13 years now? 14:40:11 <dihedral> are you any older than that? 14:40:15 <theholyduck> 5 :P 14:40:40 <theholyduck> its originally a norwegian joke i made up 14:41:32 <theholyduck> the english version took form during a quake marathon, for reasons i cant remember 14:41:50 <andythenorth> btw, what's the current status of roadtypes? http://wiki.openttd.org/Peter1138/Roadtypes 14:42:33 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: did i understand your plan for the harbour correctly, it can produce fish itself, and it can be used as a transfer station for ships coming from fishing grounds? 14:43:23 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:43:24 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 14:43:31 <theholyduck> Eddi|zuHause, well its own prodction would be what local fishers bring in? 14:43:49 <theholyduck> thats how harbors/fish reciving plants work over here 14:44:03 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: might be better answered on forums...bloody long discussion already (but more after the break) 14:44:13 <andythenorth> *no* fishing ground in FIRS 14:44:19 <andythenorth> harbour produces fish 14:44:28 <andythenorth> but contains a dock for various good reasons 14:45:34 <Eddi|zuHause> problem with a builtin dock would be that you can't join it with a trainstation or somesuch 14:46:05 <andythenorth> ah that would be a problem. Hadn't thought of that (or tested it) :( 14:46:22 <andythenorth> join stations doesn't work? Let me just test (science!) 14:47:25 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_(number) 14:47:25 <z-MaTRiX> someone have nice similar pages? 14:47:46 <theholyduck> i'm tempted to put your_mom_(number) 14:47:49 <theholyduck> but no 14:48:29 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you're very correct. Oh :( 14:48:42 <theholyduck> andythenorth, good reasons for a dock == eyecandy? :P 14:48:53 <theholyduck> makes building pretty docklands easier i guess 14:49:39 <andythenorth> theholyduck: yes, would make for a better looking harbour easily. But I designed the layout to allow a default dock to be built next to it anyway. 14:49:48 <andythenorth> including the dock just reduces complexity for players 14:50:18 <theholyduck> andythenorth, any way you could make it buildable on tiles that are at 0 height? 14:50:33 <theholyduck> so it integrates better with how most sane people build eyecandy-docks ? 14:50:48 <andythenorth> ...as player doesn't own the built in station at the industry, I guess it's just a simple *no* to ever making it possible to use join stations on this? 14:51:15 <andythenorth> theholyduck: I don't follow - can you do a screenie or something? 14:51:22 * theholyduck loads a save :P 14:52:30 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: there are two solutions to the dilemma. a) making sure infrastructure sharing allows joining stations of different players, and b) allowing cargo to "walk" between adjacent stations when cargodest is enabled 14:52:39 <Eddi|zuHause> both might not come at all... 14:53:35 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: oh well. It was a nice idea, but there are bigger fish to fry. Ahem. 14:53:53 <andythenorth> (b) would be cool. 14:53:57 <planetmaker> don't talk too much of food please. I'm getting hungry. 14:54:12 <andythenorth> I just had a nice avacado and mozarella salad 14:54:16 <andythenorth> does that help? 14:54:32 <planetmaker> >:( 14:54:40 <Eddi|zuHause> that does not sound tasty... 14:54:49 <planetmaker> unfortunately not. But mozarella salat is one of my favourites... :S 14:56:04 <Rubidium> andythenorth: ofcourse it helps getting him hungry 14:56:09 <andythenorth> btw, after banging my head on economy questions last night, someone (here again) explained Simutrans economy to me. But let's not discuss that here :P 14:56:25 <andythenorth> that someone seems to be everywher 14:56:27 <andythenorth> e 14:57:55 <theholyduck> andythenorth, seems i dont have the save, i'll make a nice simple example 14:58:09 <andythenorth> okey dokey 15:03:31 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE967a.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11:26 *** octernion [~octernion@rrdhcp254-471.redrover.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 15:29:46 <theholyduck> andythenorth, 15:29:47 <theholyduck> http://dump.no/files/e5098af1f810/OTTDC,_11th_Jan_2160.png 15:32:14 <andythenorth> nice. I take it that's a mockup, unless I've missed the 'build rail stations on water' patch?? :O 15:32:32 <theholyduck> andythenorth, you create channels on open seas 15:32:39 <theholyduck> then delete the ground in between them 15:32:47 <theholyduck> instant ground at level 0 15:32:57 <theholyduck> looks MUCH better when building elaborate docks 15:33:09 <theholyduck> in the previous game i played, we made 5 laaarge docks like that 15:33:24 <theholyduck> but you still need a lvl 1 to place the dock on 15:34:06 <theholyduck> its hugely expensive sure 15:34:13 <theholyduck> but think of it as land-reclamation 15:34:35 <theholyduck> that dock probaly took. 300- or so k to build 15:35:56 <planetmaker> nice dock :) 15:36:26 <theholyduck> planetmaker, its just a quickie, we built a gigantic one with mooving cars and stuff in the last openttdcoop game 15:36:31 <andythenorth> (playing) hey that is probably the most pretty and spectacular hack of construction I've seen :) 15:37:04 <andythenorth> but I can't help with the dock construction problem I'm afraid :( 15:37:16 <planetmaker> oh :) I missed out on that, theholyduck 15:37:25 <theholyduck> planetmaker, we built 5 docks actually 15:37:31 <theholyduck> but the grandest one had actual life 15:37:51 <theholyduck> too bad the game didnt use the random eye-candy cars newgrf 15:37:51 <planetmaker> hehe... I remember building some of these in the I think PSG 80...90 range 15:38:07 <theholyduck> or even a boat one 15:38:16 <planetmaker> there are not many boat newgrfs. 15:38:37 <theholyduck> true, but the base boats just look so booring when you put them there for eyecandy 15:38:54 <andythenorth> some day there will be new boats. that's almost a promise 15:38:57 <planetmaker> hm... depends IMO 15:39:11 <planetmaker> but there are nicer boats then the defaults, yes. 15:39:44 <planetmaker> theholyduck, you can always make a nice map and choose appropriate newgrfs (provided they're on bananas or in our grfpack) 15:39:53 <theholyduck> planetmaker, was thinking of doing that 15:40:00 <theholyduck> i'm almost done with my handcrafted norway scenario 15:40:13 <planetmaker> and if you make it a good scenario (e.g. give it a theme, a purpose) it will help to direct the plans which are going to be made. 15:40:30 <theholyduck> planetmaker, and yeah, working on that aswell 15:40:45 <theholyduck> currently almost done handcrafting some glorious mountains 15:40:49 <theholyduck> and delicious valleys 15:40:51 <planetmaker> :) 15:41:11 <planetmaker> hmpf. I really should go and make holidays there for real. 15:41:17 <theholyduck> planetmaker, the current game is eye killing toyland ;( 15:41:23 <theholyduck> seriously, it gives me a headache 15:41:23 <planetmaker> I know :) 15:41:39 <planetmaker> once in a while doesn't hurt, IMO 15:41:53 <planetmaker> like one toyland every 40 or 50 games :P 15:41:58 <theholyduck> except for the direct physical pain ovciously? 15:42:01 <theholyduck> *obviously 15:42:48 <andythenorth> (drawing) blooody isometric grid 15:43:23 <planetmaker> theholyduck, I'd like to see the comic style as a nice replacement for toyland :) 15:43:40 <planetmaker> or alternative industries for toyland so that the Mars conversion became a bit more sensible 15:47:35 <elmz> comic style? 15:48:32 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=43192&hilit=comic+style 15:49:32 *** octernion [~octernion@rrdhcp254-471.redrover.cornell.edu] has quit [Quit: woop woop] 15:50:10 <Rubidium> toyland is there to show the game IS NOT about reality! 15:50:41 *** Cryloud [ThorstenHo@p57B3D125.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:45 <Cryloud> hi guys 15:51:06 <planetmaker> just like comic style would :) 15:51:30 <Cryloud> i have a question for develop any 32bpp graphics, my english suxx a bit sry and i didnt found what i search 15:52:08 <Cryloud> i use autodesk xsi like 1 year, i see this graphics are renders from a specific angle right ? 15:53:37 <Cryloud> hmm =) 15:54:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the important thing about renders is, that isometric view is not an actual viewing angle, it's a parallel projection 15:54:10 <planetmaker> yes. they are. 15:54:28 <Cryloud> hmm ok 15:54:31 <Cryloud> what angel is it 15:54:44 <planetmaker> see the development wiki :P 15:54:55 <Cryloud> i watched it, nothing about angel there = / 15:54:57 <Cryloud> or im blind 15:55:00 <planetmaker> like 32 pixels right, 16 up. 15:55:09 <Cryloud> yeah but, when i render it 15:55:12 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's not 30? (=arcsin(1/2)), but arctan(1/2) 15:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc arctan(1/2) 15:56:41 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Error: 'arctan' is not a defined function. 15:56:44 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc atan(1/2) 15:56:44 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 0.463647609001 15:56:58 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc atan(1/2)/Pi*180 15:56:59 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 26.5650511771 15:57:04 <Cryloud> ah one moment i see any angle in the wiki = ) 15:57:06 <Eddi|zuHause> there, 26.5? 15:57:07 <Cryloud> im rly blind ;o 15:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc asin(1/2)/Pi*180 15:57:54 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 30 15:58:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0af9.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:58:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16509 /trunk/src/3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/sqapi.cpp: -Fix (r16502): All Sleep/DoCommand calls failed instead of only those via a call/acall/pcall function 16:00:52 <Cryloud> hey eddi have u 5 minutes for me ? 16:00:58 <Cryloud> i see u are german = ) 16:01:22 <Belugas> mmh... and i see that u = you 16:01:27 <Cryloud> ;o 16:01:57 <petern> yeah, it's not true isometric 16:02:48 <Eddi|zuHause> 2 of your 5 minutes are already over... 16:03:21 <Cryloud> i mean in convo ... 16:10:48 <theholyduck> Cryloud, really, the SANEST thing for xsi in terms of rendering it right 16:10:50 <theholyduck> as i've found 16:10:56 <theholyduck> is just exporting it and importing it into blender 16:11:06 <theholyduck> and then use the stuff from blender 16:11:11 <theholyduck> to texture and what not it propperly 16:11:22 <Cryloud> hmm 16:11:32 <theholyduck> using .obj or something else 16:11:34 <Cryloud> i was trying blender 5 months ago but ... its still not my software 16:11:39 <theholyduck> me neither 16:11:45 <theholyduck> wich is why i did the modeling and uv-mapping 16:11:48 <theholyduck> in xsi 16:11:51 <theholyduck> wich i KNOW :P 16:12:01 <theholyduck> and then did the various other bits in render with some guidance 16:12:12 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 16:12:15 <theholyduck> thats how i've done stuff for other projects that needed blender stuff 16:12:26 <Cryloud> hmpf, 16:12:29 <theholyduck> *other bits and render in blender 16:12:31 <andythenorth> drawn a slipway for the fishing harbour. might have pixel madness 16:12:31 <Cryloud> i cant any in blender 16:12:37 <Cryloud> ^^ 16:12:49 <theholyduck> Cryloud, tutorials and people online can generally help you 16:12:57 <theholyduck> its not IMPOSSIBLE to use, just not as intuative as xsi 16:13:15 <Cryloud> yeah ansd the user interface = horrible ... 16:13:28 <theholyduck> in xsi every thing is on the logical key, and every movement with your mouse does exactly what you'd EXPECt it to do 16:13:46 <Cryloud> and the context menu is really fine 16:13:53 <theholyduck> where as i found navigating the camera in blender 16:14:00 <theholyduck> is a bit like trying to box 16:14:04 <theholyduck> with a blindfold 16:14:06 <theholyduck> while drunk 16:14:13 <Cryloud> lolz 16:14:36 <theholyduck> i could never get it to do what i WANTED it to do 16:16:52 <theholyduck> but still, when you want to work with a open source project, blender is really the way to go for the last step 16:18:13 *** orava [~rain@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:18:31 *** orava [~rain@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #openttd [] 16:24:26 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B816DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:39 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84428.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:26:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:27:34 <Cryloud> any here where works with blender for 32bpp ? 16:28:35 * Belugas hates stuff made by blender and such. too realistic looking 16:28:37 <Belugas> burk 16:29:14 <Cryloud> the problem is, i mean nothing is here where can help me for xsi 16:29:15 <Cryloud> ^^ 16:31:04 <Cryloud> for example : is this usefull for ingame when textures are done for it ? http://aurora-mod.de/uploads/media/dev%20diarys/Cryloud/solar_thumb.png 16:31:23 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 16:33:02 <Belugas> not in my games, for sure. You should try the blender thread on the forums, take note 16:37:24 <Cryloud> ok ty guys 16:43:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:45:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:46:18 *** Cryloud [ThorstenHo@p57B3D125.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 16:47:42 *** Anon9175 [ThorstenHo@p57B3D125.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:26 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm126.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:54 *** Anon9175 [ThorstenHo@p57B3D125.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 17:00:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.161.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04:20 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE967a.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 17:05:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.161.3] has joined #openttd 17:10:36 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 17:13:26 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:38 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:39 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:23 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:09 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet696.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:38 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:38:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:27 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 17:40:03 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:41:35 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:46:57 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:46 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.113.30.188.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net] has quit [] 18:03:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:12 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:45 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:05 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:07:42 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:14:10 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:23:50 *** theholyduck_ [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 18:30:20 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:30:37 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:47 *** Beardie [~Beardie@64.55.144.44] has joined #openttd 18:40:17 <Beardie> Hello? 18:41:22 <Beardie> Annnnyyyyonnnnne? 18:41:43 *** Beardie [~Beardie@64.55.144.44] has quit [] 18:42:04 <dihedral> hehe 18:42:04 <dihedral> hello 18:42:04 <dihedral> :-D 18:42:25 <Noldo_> classic 18:44:11 <Rubidium> ...ly not worth our effort 18:44:42 *** SineDeviance [~jman@cpe-075-176-106-090.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:46:43 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16510 /trunk/src/ai/api/ (8 files): -Doc: silence some (AI) doxygen warnings by adding comments about the appropriate things. 18:55:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16511 /branches/0.7/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): 18:55:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 18:55:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Doc: [NoAI] Silence some (AI) doxygen warnings by adding comments about the appropriate things (r16510) 18:55:18 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] All Sleep/DoCommand calls failed instead of only those via a call/acall/pcall function (r16509) 19:02:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16512 /tags/0.7.1-RC3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Release: 0.7.1-RC3; better be safe than sorry. Especially because some bugs that crash OpenTTD itself are fixed. 19:03:11 <dihedral> i love seing a revision being born :-) 19:03:22 <dihedral> i mean a release 19:04:26 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:04:28 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 19:07:35 * Prof_Frink points an op at the topic 19:07:54 <Prof_Frink> petern! NewTopic! 19:07:58 <Rubidium> what's the point when there're no binaries yet? 19:08:38 <Ammler> Rubidium: what are you doing different for RC then full release? 19:08:39 <Eddi|zuHause> you could put pressure on the compile farm to release them faster because of higher demand that way 19:09:14 <Ammler> does it still have asserts? 19:10:36 <Rubidium> Ammler: yes and yes 19:10:49 <Ammler> :-) 19:11:04 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 19:11:40 <dihedral> anything but stable releases are compiled with asserts, iirc 19:11:46 <Rubidium> well, I almost released a RC with completely broken AI this afternoon. Luckily we have 'make regression' ;) 19:13:14 *** capleton [capleton@c-94-255-174-82.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 19:13:29 <Ammler> I was just wondering, why you release so many RCs for a minor update 19:13:43 <capleton> hi guys, anyone know how to get the music from TTDX to work in openttd? 19:14:01 <Ammler> capleton: read the readme 19:14:11 <Rubidium> Ammler: why do you think we do it? 19:14:15 <capleton> yeah i just read it from top to bottom 19:14:35 <capleton> wasn't that much covered about the music issue, allthough i tried what was said about the music in it 19:14:44 <capleton> i just get the effects working and not the tunes :/ 19:14:50 <Ammler> well, the asserts explains 19:15:10 <capleton> asserts? 19:15:36 <glx> capleton: OS? 19:16:03 *** petern changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.7.0, 0.7.1-RC3 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs, Revision log: vcs, Release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only :D 19:16:04 <Ammler> capleton: that was answer to rubi, 19:16:06 <capleton> im on windows, i run it in debian aswell but i ain't got that problem there 19:16:07 <Rubidium> Ammler: any idea how many people test the 0.7 branch? 19:16:13 <capleton> Ammler: ah okey 19:16:29 <petern> oh, no binaries yet 19:16:31 <petern> never mind :p 19:16:36 <glx> usually it's the opposite 19:16:45 <capleton> haha 19:16:52 <glx> it's harder to get music on windows than on linux 19:17:09 <capleton> crap, i had it working on windows when i installed it i think, but now it doesn't :/ 19:17:18 <glx> it's harder to get music on linux than on windows 19:17:30 <glx> (forget my first sentence ;) ) 19:17:42 <dihedral> Rubidium: does the 0.7 branch have 'nightlies' after a backport 19:17:45 *** SxeDag [~SxeDag@ti0004a340-2073.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:17:50 <capleton> also, on a complete other issue, how can i contribute with my own grf files? 19:18:03 <capleton> is there some grf extractor for the sprites? 19:18:19 <capleton> guess i should browse the forums maybe :P 19:18:20 <glx> grfcodec 19:18:59 <dihedral> the forums have a search featuer, as does the web - we commonly refer to it as 'google' 19:19:14 <Ammler> Rubidium: 3? 19:19:15 <capleton> :O 19:19:20 <capleton> hehe thanks. 19:19:33 <Ammler> :-) 19:19:55 <SxeDag> Q: I've got a version of OTT and it seems the AI is hopeless. The computer tycoons goes bankrupt within years. I suspected that it had to do with me changing default settings. anyone know what could be wrong? or is the game this easy? 19:20:28 <Ammler> Q: version? 19:20:52 <SxeDag> 0.4.7.0 19:20:56 <Ammler> :-o 19:20:58 <dihedral> HAHA 19:21:13 <dihedral> SxeDag: when was the last time you visited www.openttd.org? 19:21:14 <SxeDag> couple of years ago 19:21:27 <SxeDag> lol,dont laugh 19:21:29 <SxeDag> :p 19:21:38 <Rubidium> Ammler: that's probably the overestimation of the year 19:21:42 <Ammler> did 0.4.7 already have "forbid 90deg curves"? 19:21:47 <Rubidium> Ammler: yes 19:22:03 <Ammler> SxeDag: then that might be your issue :-) 19:22:04 <SxeDag> is there new versions with better AI? 19:22:27 <SxeDag> as i cant play network all the time it really sucks to play vs sucky comp 19:22:45 <Ammler> SxeDag: visit the homepage :-) 19:23:03 <dihedral> yes, visit the homepage 19:23:17 <dihedral> you might be a little shocked but that's ok 19:23:32 <Ammler> Rubidium: that is why I would just release them as stable ;-) 19:23:50 <dihedral> Ammler: that is why you are not a dev :-D 19:24:02 <Ammler> hehe 19:24:12 <Rubidium> Ammler: the fixes are usually too complex and the difference with too big to just 'go' for it 19:24:29 <Rubidium> remember the "bridges don't work at all" RC? 19:24:42 <dihedral> uh :-) 19:24:49 <glx> new version doesn't have AI (but you can download user made AIs) 19:24:49 <glx> and some of them are very good 19:25:04 <dihedral> or make your own ai 19:25:13 <Rubidium> Ammler: there was no need to hurry to fix it and release another stable just because the stable was horribly broken 19:25:17 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:33 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:26:30 <theholyduck_> yo? 19:26:37 <theholyduck_> also, YAY i got myself a new shipment of sugar 19:26:44 <theholyduck_> TEAMAKING IN MAH BEDROOM IS ON AGAIN! 19:26:53 * theholyduck_ picks a nice box of earl grey leafs 19:27:05 <Nite_Owl> Hello theholyduck 19:27:05 <dihedral> hoo hoo 19:27:19 <Nite_Owl> Hello dihedral 19:27:20 <Rubidium> hmm... using your CPU to boil the water? 19:27:23 <dihedral> theholyduck_: you are really annoying! 19:27:28 <theholyduck_> dihedral, i am? 19:27:28 <Prof_Frink> theholyduck_: What does a delivery of sugar have to do with tea? 19:27:42 <dihedral> just to answer your question from earlier on if you deserve being on that ignore list: YES 19:27:44 <theholyduck_> Prof_Frink, i'm one of those suggar addicted junkies 19:27:48 <Nite_Owl> sweet tea 19:27:58 <theholyduck_> Prof_Frink, i USED to be able to drink tea without sugar 19:28:01 <theholyduck_> but now i cant :AP 19:28:02 <Prof_Frink> Ah. I'm one of those tea addicted junkies. 19:28:12 <theholyduck_> thus i need mah sugar 19:28:14 <Rubidium> Prof_Frink: he drinks sugar with some tea 19:28:18 <Prof_Frink> Also known as "English". 19:28:31 <theholyduck_> Rubidium, well 2 tea spoons for a gigantic cup 19:28:37 <Eddi|zuHause> <Rubidium> remember the "bridges don't work at all" RC? <- i remember the "trains do not find paths out of depots" release :p 19:28:39 <theholyduck_> not so much as it really spoils the taste 19:28:46 <Ammler> oh, my Harddisk makes some suspicius sounds... 19:28:58 <Prof_Frink> Time to test your backups 19:29:01 * dihedral wonders where mibbit has it's ignore list 19:29:05 <Ammler> yes :-) 19:29:06 <theholyduck_> dihedral, :P 19:29:09 <Nite_Owl> clickity-clickity 19:29:15 <theholyduck_> dihedral, so i went from on your ignore, to off , to on again? 19:29:25 <theholyduck_> <3 19:29:25 * dihedral found it 19:29:41 <Rubidium> theholyduck_: only because you changed your nickname 19:29:45 <theholyduck_> i didnt 19:29:48 <theholyduck_> xchat did 19:29:54 *** theholyduck_ is now known as theholyduck 19:29:57 <Ammler> hmm, silent again, but I should order a new maybe. 19:29:59 <dihedral> theholyduck_: i use more than one client 19:30:03 <dihedral> thanks that makes it easier 19:30:25 <Rubidium> Ammler: can't Apple send you one for free? 19:30:33 <KenjiE20> heh, Ammler, mine sounds like it stalls on it's first cold boot of the day 19:30:45 <KenjiE20> and has been for about 6 months :P 19:30:51 <Ammler> Rubidium: hehe, you think I have a Mac. 19:30:54 <Rubidium> stop hammering the svn repository... you're delaying the binaries ;) 19:31:09 <theholyduck> if one of my drives started making clicking sounds, i'd go paranoid 19:31:11 <Rubidium> doesn't all of OTTDC have one? 19:31:15 <theholyduck> i use a 8 drive LVM array 19:31:18 <theholyduck> no raid 19:31:27 <theholyduck> also known as the kamikaze 19:31:32 <Rubidium> sounds raid0-ish 19:31:33 <Ammler> only the better members 19:31:38 <dihedral> oh - it would have worked with click click 19:31:40 <dihedral> what a bummer 19:31:40 <KenjiE20> lol 19:31:41 <theholyduck> Rubidium, its like raid0 with better partitioning 19:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> KenjiE20: solution: do not cold boot :p 19:31:56 <theholyduck> Rubidium, and general betterness 19:31:57 <KenjiE20> haha 19:32:24 <theholyduck> Rubidium, but still, its not exactly the saftest drive setup if you're worried about data loss 19:32:29 <Rubidium> raid0 should never have been called that way; it gives an unwanted feeling of data security 19:32:29 <KenjiE20> well I know which drive it is, and all that's on it is the OS's and the FAT32 mydocs, which gets a nightly backup 19:32:47 <KenjiE20> so I'm covered 19:32:49 <theholyduck> Rubidium, oh and then you got the fact that i run xfs as the filesystem 19:33:02 <theholyduck> Rubidium, aka, the filesystem that can loose files if power cuts 19:33:18 <Rubidium> what FS can't? 19:33:27 <theholyduck> Rubidium, but xfs REALLY can :P 19:33:34 <theholyduck> it doesnt actually write the data 19:33:35 <theholyduck> always 19:33:37 <theholyduck> etc 19:33:55 <theholyduck> its ment to be used on servers with 2 powersupplys and ups's on both 19:33:58 <theholyduck> etc 19:34:56 <planetmaker> Rubidium, afaik I'm the only ottdc mac person :) 19:35:04 <Ammler> osai 19:35:29 <planetmaker> m?h. 19:35:42 <Ammler> hmm, no mäh isn't :P 19:36:12 <Ammler> mäh would use gentoo 19:36:23 <planetmaker> lol :) 19:36:48 <Rubidium> and I'm probably the only one that can build half of a univeral binary with SDK 2.5 and the other half with SDK 3.1.2 ;) 19:36:55 <Rubidium> without effort 19:37:04 <frosch123> Ammler: "moo", not "m?h" 19:37:07 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:37:33 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I'll not doubt that :)# 19:37:43 <Eddi|zuHause> man... our current government makes me go totally paranoid 19:37:57 <theholyduck> our? 19:38:05 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: government? where? 19:38:17 <theholyduck> Rubidium, viva la freestate christiania? 19:38:20 <Rubidium> isn't everything governed by private banks? 19:38:25 <Rubidium> like the FED and ECB? 19:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause> http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=b4d8010f <- just read things like this... 19:38:52 <planetmaker> :P 19:39:02 <theholyduck> i dont read german 19:39:10 <theholyduck> also known as norwegian for angry men 19:39:12 <Prof_Frink> ECB? 19:39:17 <Nite_Owl> planetmaker: look to the Lobster for a fellow Mac-ian 19:40:00 <SxeDag> Q: what is the nightly DL option? 19:40:02 <Rubidium> Prof_Frink: European Central Bank 19:40:15 <theholyduck> SxeDag, last nights latest revision 19:40:30 <theholyduck> developement snapshot is another word for it 19:40:32 <Eddi|zuHause> "we need the possibility for secret computer observation" "reason: people encrypt their data and don't tell us the passwords" ... "reason: we overlook stuff like USB sticks when doing a regular search" 19:40:56 <Prof_Frink> Rubidium: England and wales Cricket Board. 19:40:57 <SxeDag> whats the standard for server play? doesnt everyone need the same version? 19:41:12 <theholyduck> SxeDag, well most people use 0.7.0 for now 19:41:13 <planetmaker> yes 19:41:22 <theholyduck> but there are a cople of servers that run the latest nightly 19:41:24 <frosch123> SxeDag: http://www.openttd.org/en/servers <- tells you what is being used 19:41:53 <SxeDag> cool, thanks 19:42:02 <frosch123> if you want to play nighlies online you will have to update daily (if you want to play daily) 19:42:40 <theholyduck> wouldnt autottd help with that? 19:43:08 <frosch123> I guess it is meant for that :) 19:43:43 <frosch123> SxeDag: if you have played 0.4.7 all the time, likely it is best to just use the stable 0.7.0 :) 19:44:33 <Rubidium> and finally the binaries are built ;) 19:44:34 <Belugas> speaking of Banks???? 19:44:36 <Belugas> grrrrrrrrrr 19:44:41 <frosch123> it offers enough tol keep you confused for long :p 19:44:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not speaking of banks 19:45:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm speaking of secret police operations 19:45:45 <SxeDag> the new world order has reachec TTD? 19:45:48 <SxeDag> :P 19:46:09 <frosch123> and government trying to circumvent constitution 19:46:57 <Eddi|zuHause> and that with the side note that it's not even a constitution... 19:47:02 <SxeDag> what caused the northern coal line to blow up. commercial airliners from Jalla Trans. Corp. or the government of Flatville? 19:47:45 <Eddi|zuHause> all that with an imaginary threat of "terroristic" attacks 19:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause> with the side note that the last terroristic attac of foreign origin was 23 years ago 19:48:39 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, http://dubistterrorist.de/ <-- like that :) 19:49:00 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: still not getting it 19:49:29 <Rubidium> terrorism = fear of something bad happening, so it's like agorafobia 19:49:42 <SxeDag> Error: cant open sample.cat 19:49:47 <Eddi|zuHause> by (european) law, you are now terrorist when you pick up the phone, or send an email 19:49:50 <SxeDag> cant start the game^^ 19:50:11 <Eddi|zuHause> SxeDag: well, you should maybe read the readme 19:50:17 <SxeDag> meh... 19:50:20 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: Terrorist until proven innocent. 19:50:55 <glx> SxeDag: you failed to install correctly as this part is the same in 0.4.7 19:51:33 <dihedral> no wonder he never played any other version :P 19:51:39 <dihedral> could never get them to run :-D 19:52:04 <SxeDag> havent played for some yeears now 19:52:39 <SxeDag> i failed to install correctly?only thing i did was uncheck copy graphics 19:53:30 <glx> you installed over 0.4.7? 19:53:50 <SxeDag> over? i DL installer and installed in a new folder 19:54:00 <glx> that's why :) 19:54:04 <planetmaker> and didn't update your desktop link? 19:54:16 <SxeDag> i dont have the old version installed 19:54:35 <glx> then read the readme about required files :) 19:54:36 <planetmaker> ah... sample.cat. 19:54:50 *** petern [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:54:54 *** petern [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has joined #openttd 19:54:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o petern] by ChanServ 19:55:10 <dihedral> why use the installer? :-P 19:55:14 <dihedral> why is there such a thing 19:55:18 <SxeDag> to install? 19:55:26 <dihedral> nobody who has the cd actually uses the installer :-D 19:55:29 <planetmaker> dihedral, I guess the name gives it away... 19:55:39 <dihedral> there's a zip package 19:56:07 <dihedral> actually that sounds rude :-D 19:56:27 <Alberth> then you have to decide yourself where to put the new files :p 19:56:42 <dihedral> oh my - hard 19:56:46 <dihedral> i cannot do something like that 19:56:55 <planetmaker> hehe :) 19:57:23 <dihedral> + if it's an installer, i can join the channel and rant about the game not working even though i unticked the 'copy graphics' section 19:57:25 <dihedral> my my my 19:57:42 <SxeDag> well... 19:57:59 <SxeDag> where will i copy the graphics from if i dont have em 19:58:15 <Rubidium> you have them, cause you had them with 0.4.7 19:58:16 <planetmaker> SxeDag, google is your friend. Or get OpenGFX 19:58:55 <SxeDag> ok, since you guys obv dont know it i'll find out myself 19:58:59 <SxeDag> thanks 19:59:11 <dihedral> hehe - what a looser 19:59:12 <dihedral> :-D 19:59:16 <SxeDag> ty 19:59:21 <dihedral> you are welcome 19:59:26 <Noldo_> SxeDag: by copy you mean steal? 19:59:29 <dihedral> people are telling you all the time, and you are blind 19:59:33 <dihedral> you simply dont read what they tell you 19:59:42 <dihedral> snap 20:00:03 <dihedral> how hard can it be? 20:00:25 <Prof_Frink> There must be ooh... 3407 places to get the graphics from 20:00:37 <SxeDag> yes, but i dont know how 20:00:43 <SxeDag> thats why im asking 20:00:46 <SxeDag> isnt it obv 20:00:49 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16513 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Add nested widgets root and array to Window, and NWidgetBase::FillNestedArray() to fill the array. 20:00:58 <dihedral> you have the readme file - that tells you where the graphic files have to go to, you have a running 0.4.7 - you could look in the folder mentioned in the readme, but in the 0.4.7 install directory 20:01:04 <Prof_Frink> No, it's subtle. That's why you didn't notice. 20:01:11 <SxeDag> if you dont want to help me understand what i dont, then fine 20:01:18 <planetmaker> SxeDag, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ttd+download 20:01:25 <dihedral> we ARE fucking helping you 20:01:49 <planetmaker> or - as I said - get OpenGFX. It's still unfinished though, but doesn't violate any copyright, if you rip it off the net 20:02:08 <dihedral> he does not need to rip it off the net 20:02:16 <dihedral> he has the data on his computer already :-p 20:02:35 <SxeDag> ...you're the one not reading 20:02:35 <dihedral> SxeDag: did you have a look at the readme file? 20:02:42 <planetmaker> you grab the latest testing version of that from http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx 20:02:50 <SxeDag> i already said i dont have the game TTD or OTTD installed 20:03:04 <SxeDag> diihedral 20:03:09 <dihedral> did you not just say that you got an error about sample.cat missing? 20:03:20 <SxeDag> yes 20:03:28 <dihedral> that tells me that openttd is installed enough to look for the sample.cat file 20:03:31 <Ammler> http://openttdcoop.org/sample.cat 20:03:38 <dihedral> that means it's installed enough for there to be a readme file 20:03:49 <dihedral> Ammler: he does not know where to put it 20:03:50 <dihedral> :-P 20:03:58 <SxeDag> well, yes i installed it 5 mins ago. but i dont have any other versions installed 20:04:05 <KenjiE20> [20:20] <Ammler> Q: version? 20:04:05 <KenjiE20> [20:20] <SxeDag> 0.4.7.0 20:04:08 <KenjiE20> ^ so that was? 20:04:13 <dihedral> a lie then 20:04:16 <capleton> hmm, anyone know if there is a collection zipfile with the 32bpp tiles? would be neat :) 20:04:35 <SxeDag> i've got the game on an external drive 20:04:36 <planetmaker> capleton, yes. Search the forums for the 32bpp thread. It has links 20:04:41 <SxeDag> from 4 years ago 20:04:43 <KenjiE20> cap; there used to be on the 20:04:43 <Ammler> well, that sample.cat is best sound ever ;-) 20:04:47 <capleton> planetmaker: ok cool 20:04:50 <KenjiE20> yea what pm said 20:05:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:05:05 <glx> SxeDag: the files are on this external drive 20:05:07 <dihedral> SxeDag: you have that drive at hand? 20:05:16 <SxeDag> yes 20:05:29 * planetmaker needs urgently some wood to bang the head against. 20:05:29 <dihedral> then 3 things to do 20:05:32 <dihedral> read the readme file 20:05:48 <dihedral> connect the drive you have the install of 0.4.7 on 20:06:07 <glx> copy required files from drive to where readme says 20:06:10 <KenjiE20> ??? 20:06:12 <dihedral> go to the location 0.4.7 is installed at, and see if any of those folder names were mentioned in the readme file 20:06:12 <KenjiE20> profit? 20:06:38 <dihedral> glx: i was not wanting to jump to far at once :-D 20:06:38 <planetmaker> KenjiE20, no, to make the pain go. 20:06:56 <SxeDag> ok 20:07:02 <Prof_Frink> Steal a frenchman's bread? 20:07:03 <KenjiE20> not that, pm 20:07:07 <planetmaker> :) 20:08:13 <SxeDag> wtf is this language? 20:08:28 <planetmaker> the one you selected? 20:08:51 <Eddi|zuHause> it's called "English", as required by the topic 20:08:59 <SxeDag> "haha" 20:09:27 *** Kage_Dragon [~chatzilla@24-138-109-98.zing-net.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:42 *** Kage_Dragon [~chatzilla@24-138-109-98.zing-net.ca] has joined #openttd 20:09:45 <Eddi|zuHause> seriously, you got all information you need to get the game running 20:09:50 <SxeDag> it is 20:10:40 <SxeDag> so back to the original Q - are the competetiors really competitive? 20:10:47 <SxeDag> :P 20:10:58 <planetmaker> yes 20:11:12 <SmatZ> they are far better than in before 0.7 20:11:32 <SxeDag> wasting a whole starting budget on a zig zag trainline seems pointless 20:11:44 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 20:11:49 <dihedral> oh man 20:11:52 <dihedral> oh man!!! 20:11:52 <planetmaker> well. Start the game, download some AIs and have a run. 20:11:57 <SmatZ> yes, dihedral? 20:12:27 <dihedral> SxeDag: the ai in the version of openttd you are (somewhat) familiar with (0.4.7) basically SUCKS 20:12:28 <dihedral> :-) 20:12:47 <SxeDag> yes 20:13:02 <dihedral> as does the ai in any 0.5.x release 20:13:04 <SxeDag> thats my observation as well lol 20:13:06 <dihedral> and 0.6.x release 20:13:12 <SxeDag> and? 20:13:31 <dihedral> big change - i am not sure you have understood that so far from the odd ways people have mentioned it here before 20:13:33 <planetmaker> and now comes 0.7.x 20:13:37 <SxeDag> 0.7.0 is suddenly donaldtrump mode? 20:14:04 <dihedral> the ai as you know it does no longer exist 20:14:14 <theholyduck> SxeDag, 0.7 lets people write their own ai's 20:14:17 <theholyduck> in a nice modular system 20:14:20 <Prof_Frink> It is an ex-AI. It has ceased to be. 20:14:21 <dihedral> you can write your own if you like (though it'd not advise you to do so) 20:14:31 <theholyduck> then yuo just dl a good one 20:14:33 <theholyduck> and play against it 20:14:36 <dihedral> or you can download an ai someone else has wirtten, and play against that 20:14:45 <dihedral> and you will (depending on the ai) have a hard time 20:14:59 <theholyduck> dihedral, well they can just keep building and building 20:15:07 <theholyduck> then there is the fact that a monkey playinjg connect the dots with airfields 20:15:14 <theholyduck> can easily outperform 80% of peoples rail networks 20:15:16 <dihedral> Prof_Frink: we have dumped that bitch :-D 20:15:39 <theholyduck> or as i like to put it 20:15:47 <SxeDag> airfield better than coaltrains? 20:15:52 <theholyduck> "airfields.. because even monkey's can play connect the dots" 20:16:05 <theholyduck> SxeDag, sure :P 20:16:12 <Prof_Frink> Oi. I resent "monkey" being used as a term of offense. 20:16:26 <theholyduck> or *even a monkey 20:16:53 <SxeDag> fuck! 20:17:03 <SxeDag> my double headed train ripped apart 20:17:08 <theholyduck> :O? 20:17:13 <SxeDag> now they are going in opposite directions 20:17:23 <SxeDag> what can i do to fix it!?!? 20:17:30 <SxeDag> dont tell me readme.txt 20:17:31 <theholyduck> wut? 20:17:36 <theholyduck> how did you manage that? 20:17:52 <SxeDag> fuck, im gonna lose against the zigzag train co. 20:20:01 <dihedral> you can play the newer version ;-) 20:20:41 <dihedral> 0.4.7 is no longer supported :-P 20:20:59 <SxeDag> lol, only jpking 20:22:14 <SxeDag> anyone actually everplay the candy land? 20:22:32 <theholyduck> toyland and yes 20:22:37 <theholyduck> ever once in a blue moon 20:22:39 <theholyduck> *every 20:22:54 <glx> too hard for my eyes 20:22:54 <SxeDag> why would even 6 year olds play that when you can transport coal! 20:23:18 <SxeDag> mmm, i luv my coal trains 20:23:55 <Nite_Owl> and I am sure they love you back 20:24:05 <SxeDag> yes, totally 20:24:34 <dihedral> hey - perhaps we can find you some real coal trains you could play with :-P 20:24:38 <SxeDag> is the starting amount halved? only 100k? 20:24:47 <dihedral> just sit in front and wait for them to give you a ... HUG 20:25:11 <SxeDag> lol, i sense death threats 20:25:24 <dihedral> no 20:25:25 <dihedral> nono 20:25:30 <SxeDag> :p 20:25:44 <dihedral> i never said i would put you there :-P 20:26:15 <SxeDag> just assuming i would do it volutarily i assume? 20:26:30 <dihedral> sure :-P 20:27:25 <SxeDag> another question... is TTD played for money? 20:27:40 <frosch123> I play it for fun 20:27:42 <Nite_Owl> as in gambling? 20:27:43 <SmatZ> hahaha 20:27:46 <SxeDag> yes 20:28:02 <SmatZ> not a bad idea 20:28:03 <SxeDag> as in gambling or as a competition 20:28:13 <Nite_Owl> try a texas hold 'em site 20:28:18 <SmatZ> :-D 20:28:32 <SxeDag> sure, i play poker too 20:28:40 <dihedral> sure you can play for money 20:28:46 <SmatZ> :-D 20:28:53 <planetmaker> SxeDag, yes, you can. For every hour you can send me a fixed fee. Say... 5EUR? 20:28:55 <dihedral> you visit the home page, and click the 'donate' link 20:29:05 <SxeDag> but i know many computer games are played for money. i just wonder if thats the case for such and old game like ttd 20:29:19 <dihedral> ttd is old 20:29:22 <dihedral> OpenTTD is not old 20:29:26 <SxeDag> ... 20:29:32 <SxeDag> you get the picture 20:29:36 <SmatZ> no 20:30:23 <planetmaker> ^^ 20:30:45 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:20 <planetmaker> is the game better, if you would have to pay for the same thing? 20:31:37 <SxeDag> pay for it? 20:31:38 <planetmaker> then you should start to regularily donate as dih suggested 20:31:50 <SxeDag> yes, sure 20:32:02 <Muxy> Kiss, from Goulp ;) 20:32:17 <dihedral> SxeDag: if you like what the game is, you can support it 20:32:25 <SxeDag> ofc 20:32:37 <SxeDag> whats the standard donation these days? 20:32:44 *** theholyduck_ [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:33:07 * SxeDag thinking of a number between 0-1000 20:33:19 <Prof_Frink> <drevil>One million dollars!</drevil> 20:35:23 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0af9.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38:12 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:46:26 * Belugas runs home 20:46:27 <Belugas> ciao 20:50:00 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:50:11 <Nite_Owl> later Belugas 20:50:31 <planetmaker> SxeDag, 10 ... 50EUR 20:51:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:51:31 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:54:15 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-146-232.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:06:03 <SxeDag> lol, theres not any AIs in the game 21:06:31 <theholyduck_> SxeDag, yes 21:06:33 <theholyduck_> you need to DL them 21:06:34 <SxeDag> i only got this dummyAI and the cool msg: he wont do shit 21:06:39 <theholyduck_> see that download content 21:06:40 <SxeDag> yeah, i understand 21:06:41 <theholyduck_> button? 21:06:45 <theholyduck_> on the main menu? 21:06:47 <theholyduck_> click it? 21:06:53 <theholyduck_> then select a couple of the things marked with ai 21:06:54 <SxeDag> i know 21:06:55 <theholyduck_> and then hit download 21:07:00 <SxeDag> :p 21:07:14 <SxeDag> just thoguht it came with at least one default AI 21:07:20 <theholyduck_> naw 21:07:22 <theholyduck_> why would it? 21:07:40 <theholyduck_> defaults generally suck 21:07:41 <SxeDag> plug and play ftw`? 21:07:53 <SxeDag> do you recommend any? 21:08:01 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:03 <theholyduck_> i havent tried any 21:08:04 <planetmaker> any which is downloadable is ok 21:08:09 <theholyduck_> though if i ever get really boored 21:08:15 <theholyduck_> i'll add them all to a 2048x2048 gam 21:08:20 <theholyduck_> and watch them do battle for a day 21:11:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F3D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: alberth * r16514 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Add widget flags, and drawing and invalidating. 21:14:56 <SxeDag> record it and send it to the movies 21:17:43 *** Plimmer [~Plimmer@x1-6-00-50-7f-bf-a4-d2.k402.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:34 *** Plimmer [~Plimmer@x1-6-00-50-7f-bf-a4-d2.k402.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:20:06 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:22:25 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 21:27:21 *** elmz [~elmz@ti0207a340-dhcp0361.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:29:52 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:39:53 *** Plimmer [~Plimmer@x1-6-00-50-7f-bf-a4-d2.k402.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:09 *** Plimmer [~Plimmer@x1-6-00-50-7f-bf-a4-d2.k402.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:44:12 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:26 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 21:50:58 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:50 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:53 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:01 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable160.111-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 21:53:16 <dragonhorseboy> anyone feel like reminding me whats up with certain servers being password protected but has no www or anything to even inqury to re what password is? (I doubt its several players at one roof address seeing some of these server has been going on nonstop for several days) 21:53:31 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:53:35 <dragonhorseboy> just wondering about it thats all 21:54:01 <Nite_Owl> friends and family only 21:54:06 <Aali> 1. clueless person A sets up server 21:54:13 <Aali> 2. person A forgets about server 21:54:48 <dragonhorseboy> heh hm both makes sense and I hadn't thought of these .. thanks 21:54:58 <dragonhorseboy> aali seem unlikely to me :p 21:55:11 <Nite_Owl> or they have an IRC channel 21:55:24 <Aali> dragonhorseboy: not really 21:55:50 <Nite_Owl> did you click on the sever in the list to see more info 21:55:59 <Aali> I MAY have a server running right now, I don't know, I usually forget about it 21:56:15 <Aali> sure, its not on the server list, but not everyone turns that off 21:57:15 <Aali> nope, wasn't running, must've rebooted that machine.. 21:58:00 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:01 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 21:58:03 <dragonhorseboy> nite_owl nope and no clue here neither http://www.openttd.org/en/server/4478 .. oh well no biggie anyway :p 21:59:51 <Nite_Owl> they are also using v0.5.3 22:00:47 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 22:03:27 <dragonhorseboy> I do wonder one thing tho..there's no coop server in the list 22:03:59 <Xaroth> there is 22:04:18 <dragonhorseboy> xaroth..hm..funny I resorted the list by passworded servers.... 22:04:22 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE967a.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:26 <KenjiE20> lies, they are there 22:04:26 <Xaroth> http://www.openttd.org/en/server/105 22:04:28 <dragonhorseboy> let me try reload openttd... 22:04:51 <Xaroth> or better yet, use auttottd when i get a chance to release it :) 22:05:22 <dragonhorseboy> whats auttottd? 22:05:41 <Xaroth> search the forums :) 22:06:15 <SxeDag> What does "Join" in the company screen means? im playing online 22:06:31 <SxeDag> can i join someones co? 22:06:50 <Xaroth> yes 22:07:01 <SxeDag> which means? 22:07:12 <Xaroth> you can play co-op ? 22:07:17 <SxeDag> ok 22:07:22 <SxeDag> for joint profit? 22:07:27 <SxeDag> and points 22:07:29 <Xaroth> for joint fun 22:07:41 <dragonhorseboy> xaroth.. 'no search results for auttottd, searching auto tie...' >_< 22:08:02 <Xaroth> dude 22:08:06 <dragonhorseboy> (some funny suggest it decided) 22:08:08 <Xaroth> the topic is on the first page of general openttd 22:08:20 <Xaroth> surely the forum can find that o_O 22:08:24 <Xaroth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=43252 22:09:56 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:10:00 <SxeDag> how do i access chat in-game? 22:10:14 <Yexo> just press enter 22:10:18 <SxeDag> cool 22:13:09 <dragonhorseboy> hm I'll pass 22:14:12 <dragonhorseboy> anyway need to afk for supper :/ 22:14:15 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable160.111-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 22:16:22 *** theholyduck_ [~holyduck@94.80-202-138.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:33:55 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-146-232.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40:41 *** Booth [~Booth@client-82-3-72-68.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:46 <Booth> evening 22:44:18 <Booth> hello 22:46:16 *** [1]Booth [~Booth@client-86-27-131-18.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:19 *** Booth is now known as Guest442 22:46:19 *** [1]Booth is now known as Booth 22:46:56 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.196.241] has joined #openttd 22:53:07 *** Guest442 [~Booth@client-82-3-72-68.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:54:20 <tompaw> /wc 22:54:21 *** tompaw [~tompaw@slave20.tesserakt.eu] has left #openttd [] 22:54:45 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54:49 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:57 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 22:55:58 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:34 *** Booth [~Booth@client-86-27-131-18.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? 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