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06:41:26 *** LordAzamath [~rightwing@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 06:45:46 *** ^spike^ [~spike@dhcp-077-251-090-192.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:59:47 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:04:14 *** reldred2 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 07:04:40 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:07:06 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: Jerimiah40, ddfreyne, Tefad, reldred1, krushia, ^spike^, Bergee, Ridayah, Rexxars, Westie, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 07:07:23 *** Netsplit over, joins: ^spike^, reldred1, Tefad, TheMask96, Splex, R0b0t1, Westie, ddfreyne, Bergee, Jerimiah40 (+4 more) 07:09:05 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:47 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 07:12:16 *** reldred2 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:30 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12:46 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 07:19:14 *** tdev [~tdev@ip-62-163.emscb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #openttd 07:24:59 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 07:26:21 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 07:31:01 <pavel1269> hello 07:51:01 *** pavel [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 07:53:32 *** tdev [~tdev@ip-62-163.emscb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:56:14 *** tdev [~tdev@ip-62-163.emscb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #openttd 07:56:23 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:08 *** reldred1 [~reldred@115.131.200.212] has joined #openttd 08:28:05 *** tdev [~tdev@ip-62-163.emscb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:49 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 08:48:35 <TrueBrain> gooooood morning all :) 08:48:57 <blathijs> hey TrueBrain 08:50:37 <TrueBrain> wassup!!! :p 08:51:06 *** free_kill [~quassel@62.245.104.16] has joined #openttd 08:51:39 * blathijs shoots free_kill 08:53:15 *** pavel [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:54:39 * free_kill shoots my ISP 08:54:44 *** free_kill is now known as pavel 08:55:09 <TrueBrain> I think you hit it 08:57:30 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:55 *** pavel is now known as pavel1269 08:59:04 <blathijs> 10:57:55 -!- pavel is now known as pavel1269 <-- Isn't that the wrong way around? :-p 09:00:08 <pavel1269> why so? 09:02:27 <blathijs> usually you join, get a stupid postfix because your nick is in use, and remove it when the nick becomes available :-p 09:03:26 <blathijs> s/you/people/ 09:03:45 <pavel1269> well, i use everywhere my postfix, so its easier to recognize 09:04:16 <pavel1269> and hes is use, only when i fall 09:06:38 <pavel1269> i am having terrible lags for today :-( 09:06:49 <pavel1269> better to shut irc down i think ... :-( 09:15:35 *** ^spike^ is now known as ^Spike^ 09:18:04 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:21:05 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEabef.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:23:05 *** Netsplit over, joins: Bergee, Jerimiah40, Rexxars, Ridayah, krushia, SirSquidness 09:23:15 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.14.207.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 09:34:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:38:02 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-73-123.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:02 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest113 09:38:02 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 09:40:38 <TrueBrain> I love series ... a 21 year old girl trying to play a 15 year old ... 09:40:45 <TrueBrain> like we wouldn't notice :p 09:41:11 <Xaroth> hawt :P 09:41:22 <Xaroth> better a 21 year old trying to be 15 years old, than the other way around :P 09:41:23 <FauxFaux> Okay, I read "play" entirely wrong. 09:41:47 <TrueBrain> the pervert in you? 09:42:15 <FauxFaux> The pervert in the 15 year old. 09:42:27 <Xaroth> ok, i almost read -that- one wrong. 09:42:39 <TrueBrain> the pervert in you? 09:42:40 <TrueBrain> :p 09:42:57 <Xaroth> something like that 09:42:59 * petern prepares the /kb 09:43:48 *** Guest113 [~Dale@pool-71-98-73-123.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43:55 <Xaroth> petern: like you don't have it prepared 24/7 ? 09:44:51 <TrueBrain> no, he has to order it via his starport first 09:45:05 <Xaroth> oo, bargain price 09:54:28 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 10:08:57 <fonsinchen> petern, are there any new thoughts about the deadlock between FS#54 and FS#3094 10:08:59 <fonsinchen> ? 10:10:46 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 10:11:01 <petern> deadlock? 10:13:31 <fonsinchen> You don't like smallmap-zoom being split up in zoom-in and zoom-out and you don't like the zoomlevels patch. Others explicitly want zoom-in and zoom-out separately and explicitly advised me to change the zoom levels in that way. 10:14:08 <fonsinchen> So, it seems you are blocking each other ... 10:16:29 <petern> i block 3094, nothing else 10:19:05 <fonsinchen> Does that mean you see now "why zoom in and out need to be separate"? 10:19:25 <petern> no 10:23:26 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> graviton.oftc.net quits: Westie, reldred1 10:24:32 <fonsinchen> May suggest something? Perhaps you should create a mailing list as a less volatile medium than IRC. Arguments would probably be more reasonable due to more time and space being available to formulate them. Plus this would prevent a lot of misunderstandings like this one. I wouldn't have written that patch if I had known that petern doesn't like it. And I wouldn't have split up the smallmap-zoom patch in zoom-in and zoom-out either if I had known th 10:24:44 <petern> there is a mailing list 10:24:49 <petern> or at least, there was 10:24:56 <fonsinchen> Is it used? 10:24:59 <petern> no 10:25:20 <petern> how about you understand that being pushy and pushy and pushy will not get you anywere 10:25:23 <petern> +h 10:29:29 <TrueBrain> + vp->zoom = min(_saved_scrollpos_zoom, ZOOM_LVL_BLITTER_MAX); 10:29:30 <TrueBrain> + vp->zoom = max(_saved_scrollpos_zoom, ZOOM_LVL_BLITTER_MIN); 10:29:32 <TrueBrain> fonsinchen: use clamp() ;) 10:30:26 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-12-225-105.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:30:26 <fonsinchen> I wasn't trying to push anything. I was trying to solve a bug (Alberth's "black map") in the smallmap-zoom patch in a way that would be acceptable for trunk. So I asked your opinion about it. I did that because neither I wanted an open bug lying around in my cargodist code nor I wanted to write code that would be unacceptable. And Smatz and others suggested that I split up the patch in zoom-in and zoom-out and create a separate patch that adapts th 10:30:39 <fonsinchen> yes, I'll use clamp there. 10:30:40 <TrueBrain> fonsinchen: for what it is worth: nice job on doing exactly what we (Alberth, SmatZ and I) asked you to do :) 10:30:46 <petern> fuck it 10:30:54 <petern> TrueBrain, 10:30:55 <petern> no 10:31:00 <petern> it's a FUCKING STUPID PATCH 10:31:15 <TrueBrain> petern: might that be, he did exactly what we 3 asked him to. That is all I am saying. 10:31:22 <petern> ok 10:31:29 <petern> NICE JOB on a FUCKING STUPID PATCH 10:31:43 <petern> use a different enum 10:31:47 <petern> leave ZoomLevel alone 10:32:13 <petern> (no enum was needed originally for FS#54 anyway) 10:32:19 <TrueBrain> petern: it in general is not polite to talk to people like this. I understand you can disagree on how it is done. Either way, communicate in a normal fashion, like we all try to do. 10:34:10 <TrueBrain> in any case, I suggest we freeze this problem till SmatZ returns from his holiday. He has some good insights on the matter. But fonsinchen did exactly what we asked him to do, so don't take it out on him, it is not fair. 10:36:03 <petern> yeah well 10:36:06 * petern sniggers at QC 10:38:35 <fonsinchen> ok 10:39:37 * Belugas yawns 10:39:43 * TrueBrain hugs Belugas :) 10:40:16 * Belugas 's wife is in the shower, kid istill sleeping, and thr sun is starting to raise on the niagara falls 10:40:27 <TrueBrain> kid still asleep? WOW! 10:40:29 <TrueBrain> that is a first ;) 10:40:37 * Belugas hugs TrueBrain 10:40:49 <Belugas> kid is burned 10:41:07 <Belugas> like... a hell of a day he got yesterday 10:41:15 <TrueBrain> :) And another one for today? 10:41:34 <Belugas> from 9 to 5 in amusement park he had :D 10:41:47 <Belugas> no, today is8 hours drive back home 10:42:05 <Belugas> so,e'll be watching movies instead 10:42:10 <TrueBrain> hehehe :) 10:42:16 <TrueBrain> we had to sing songs and read books .. 10:42:18 <TrueBrain> the good old days .. 10:42:22 <TrueBrain> now they can watch movies ... 10:42:26 <Belugas> lol 10:42:29 <Belugas> yeah :) 10:42:30 <planetmaker> good day :-) 10:42:41 <planetmaker> Belugas, seems like you are on a holiday to be envied for :-) 10:42:45 <Belugas> they do not know how lucky they are 10:42:45 <planetmaker> Good for you! :-) 10:42:53 <TrueBrain> they will never know :) 10:43:04 <Belugas> planetmaker : well deserved ones ;) 10:43:14 <Noldo> kn, got it, burned not buried 10:43:16 <Belugas> indeed TrueBrain, indeed 10:43:19 <planetmaker> sure you do :-) I wouldn't disagree. 10:43:45 <Belugas> oh... kiddo is up... so i'm gone 10:43:53 <planetmaker> enjoy! :-) 10:44:01 <Belugas> love you all, see you sometimes 10:44:20 <TrueBrain> bubye Belugas :) 10:44:22 <TrueBrain> we love you too ;) 10:47:15 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:52:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.14.207.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:13:50 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:43 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-73-123.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:20:48 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:23 <TrueBrain> "The nice thing about the Internet is that there's so much information on it. The bad thing about the Internet is that there's so much information on it." <- I love such quotes :) 11:23:22 <Eddi|zuHause> the sad thing about it is that politicians in a "free" world are so afraid of information... 11:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause> the political systems in europe so heavily rely on the fact that people cannot fully inform themselves of what is actually going on 11:26:36 <Noldo> are there systems that don't rely on that? 11:26:49 <Eddi|zuHause> one person recently said (about the "internet civil rights movement" [aka pirate party]) that "a group of people should not take matters into their own hands" 11:27:11 <Eddi|zuHause> [... because that would be democracy, and we can't have that... what if that carries on?] 11:28:49 <Noldo> :D 11:29:21 <Noldo> I wonder what that person ment with 'taking matters into their own hands' 11:29:48 <Eddi|zuHause> not what you are thinking... 11:43:13 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 12:08:07 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 12:08:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 12:08:13 <Rubidium> happy birthday babe 12:08:19 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has left #openttd [/ignore Audigex] 12:09:20 <TrueBrain> I agree: happy birthday ::babe :) 12:11:11 <Eddi|zuHause> makes me always wonder: why does german not have an own word for "baby"? 12:11:31 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 12:11:48 <TrueBrain> @op 12:11:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 12:12:13 <petern> ? 12:12:19 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: ::babe 1 year old .. he is growing up! | 0.7.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, translator: translator, server list: servers, nightly-builds: nightly, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only 12:12:40 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by TrueBrain 12:13:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 12:13:06 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: ::babe 1 year old .. she is growing up! | 0.7.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, translator: translator, server list: servers, nightly-builds: nightly, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only 12:13:15 <TrueBrain> I confuse genders from time to time, sorry :p 12:14:19 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.248.95] has joined #openttd 12:16:20 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:47 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:18:57 <glx> thx TrueBrain :) 12:19:04 <TrueBrain> np :) 12:19:06 <Xaroth> o_O 12:23:20 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:54 <petern> if i knew what you were talking about ;p 12:29:21 <petern> i shall have a guess at the leaseweb server 12:48:18 <planetmaker> eh... ? 12:52:46 <Eddi|zuHause> happeee birsdeee baebeeee? 12:53:06 <TrueBrain> :) Yeah!! 12:53:07 <Eddi|zuHause> ::babe sounds like an ipv6 address 12:53:09 <TrueBrain> such a happy day :) 13:13:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17219 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): -Cleanup: remove a lot of unused string code 13:21:21 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:21:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:25 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 13:26:25 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 13:26:25 *** reldred1 [~reldred@115.131.200.212] has joined #openttd 13:26:25 *** Westie [~westie@westie-cat.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:30:13 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:30:49 *** LordAzamath [~rightwing@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 13:32:39 *** Skasi [~Skasi@85-127-105-210.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:33:11 <Skasi> Hey. I just wanted to ask how exactly payment is calculated. Does the game take the distance between two facilities, or between to stations? 13:33:38 <Skasi> two stations* 13:33:59 <Xaroth> stations 13:34:04 <Mark> the distance between the station signs 13:34:13 <Xaroth> distance traveled and time taken 13:34:41 <Skasi> the closest part of a station, or the furthest away one? 13:34:48 <Skasi> and how about transfers? 13:34:50 <Xaroth> where the sign is 13:34:54 <Skasi> oh.. oh.. 13:34:56 <Xaroth> with the station name 13:35:01 <Skasi> didnt read that :) 13:35:12 <Xaroth> and yes, distant-joining stations does allow you to 'cheat' a bit. 13:35:18 <Skasi> so.. with 64x64 stations you can "cheat" in that way? 13:35:22 <Skasi> kay.. 13:35:26 <Yexo> yes, you can 13:35:33 <Skasi> and if you use transfer 13:35:39 <Yexo> nothing changes 13:35:41 <Skasi> it still takes the very first and last stations? 13:35:41 <Xaroth> still station sign 13:35:45 <Yexo> payment is from original station to final destination 13:35:53 <Skasi> okay 13:35:53 <TrueBrain> NOTICE: extensive work on wiki.openttd.org; expect downtime 13:36:37 <Skasi> is there an option to display further information about traveltime, distance, etc. for goods? 13:36:55 <Skasi> -further 13:37:07 <Xaroth> in what way? 13:37:10 <Xaroth> payment graphs? 13:37:35 <petern> so is there any way of downloading opengfx from a fresh openttd yet? 13:37:50 <Skasi> Well, like a long information text being displayed in addition to the floating money that shows up on completion 13:37:56 <Xaroth> nope 13:38:29 <Yexo> petern: it's possible with the windows installer 13:41:13 <petern> hmm, nor opensfx :S 13:43:54 <petern> if "nosound" was included then that would save hassle 13:44:12 <Skasi> hmm.. is the distance being calculated exactly, or in tiles? 13:44:41 <petern> manhattan distance in tiles 13:52:17 <Skasi> hmm.. but for trains vertical and horizontal ways ARE longer, right? 13:52:45 <Skasi> or do they drive faster there? 13:52:47 <Yexo> you can cut some corners if you use diagonal rails 13:59:12 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEabef.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:01:14 <Xenoa> [09:06] <Xaroth> Xenoa: have you checked the NoAI forum? <- no i havent 14:01:26 <Xenoa> hi again 14:01:32 <Xenoa> i just found again this great game 14:01:41 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:01:58 <Xenoa> so is there only Multiplayer way to play against someones ? 14:02:04 <Xenoa> no AI possible 14:02:30 <Yexo> Xenoa: start openttd, in the main menu press the "check online content" button, then download some AIs there 14:02:40 <Xenoa> aaah...thnx 14:02:49 <Xenoa> gonna check after i make sum cooffe 14:07:54 <Xenoa> ok 14:07:58 <Xenoa> ill try Admiral AI 14:08:10 <Xenoa> thnx for the info 14:18:50 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:01 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:22:05 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 14:49:49 <Xenoa> any1 knows why sumtimes u make a new train line, the train just stays in the depo...even if youre pointed those goto places ? 14:50:09 <TrueBrain> please .. this is not an SMS channel 14:50:22 <TrueBrain> can you write words in their full? Small effort .. and doesn't require any puzzling skills from my side 14:50:58 *** bb10_ [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:51:36 <Eddi|zuHause> ths ttly sms chn 14:52:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i probably sound like an "adult" trying "youth speak" 14:52:39 <TrueBrain> yup 14:53:38 *** ^Spike^ is now known as ^spike^ 14:57:09 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:01:31 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.35] has joined #openttd 15:02:28 <OwenS> Hehe 15:02:33 <OwenS> I'm like that to friends on IM as well :p 15:04:09 <OwenS> It's just a way of implying "I consider my time more valuable than yours"... 15:17:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17220 /trunk/src/ai/api/ (6 files): -Fix (r15027): don't ignore white space changes (e.g. alignment fixes) in the exporter 15:18:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17221 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): -Change [NoAI] [FS#3101]: when the API requests a string as parameter allow every squirrel type and convert to a string 15:28:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17222 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix [FS#3129, FS#3130]: with time tables vehicles would stay in the 'loading' state after they have finished loading 15:38:36 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEabef.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:42:38 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:26 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:54:20 *** ^spike^ is now known as ^Spike^ 15:56:55 <Skasi> hmm.. what if three companies with the same station rating compete for a resource? 15:57:21 <pavel1269> 1/3 to 1st, 1/3 to 2nd and 1/3 to 3rd ? 15:57:48 <glx> only the 2 best get cargo 16:03:58 <pavel1269> if there are 3 with same, so the two with lowest id? 16:08:54 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-12-225-105.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd not rely on the ID, but it might be 16:14:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17223 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 5 dirs): -Change [NoAI] [FS#2980]: Crash an AI when it uses a DoCommand / Sleep instead of just printing an error message in the AI Debug Window 16:22:48 *** TinoDid [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:22:48 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:50 *** TinoDid is now known as TinoDidriksen 16:28:20 *** tech404 [~evan@southernae.com] has joined #openttd 16:32:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:34:16 <fonsinchen> I have a set<CargoPacket *, CargoSorter> with cargosorter being a comparator that works like to CargoPacket::SameSource. 16:34:53 <fonsinchen> Now I have that loaded and the saveload code uses a std::set<void *> (with implicit std::less as comparator) 16:35:31 <fonsinchen> I know that, so I call a "Resort" afterwards which reinstates the old order by looping over all cargopackets and inserting them in a new list and silently discarding the old one 16:35:36 <fonsinchen> is that portable? 16:36:59 <fonsinchen> the problem is that I know that std::set doesn't call the comparator on begin(), end() and operator++ and neither in the destructor 16:37:16 <fonsinchen> However is that the case for all implementations of std::less ... 16:37:47 <petern> pfft 16:37:55 <petern> just copy ttdpatch's implementation :D 16:37:58 <petern> mmmm, assembly 16:38:14 <petern> (joke) 16:38:51 <fonsinchen> it'd be such a nice optimization of the vehicle loading code if that problem was solved ... 16:39:13 <fonsinchen> As I can use Append() everywhere without additional cost. 16:39:33 <petern> custom version of std::set? 16:39:45 <petern> i mean, we write custom versions of everything else... 16:40:18 <fonsinchen> implementing an rb_tree? I'm not really fond of that. 16:40:41 <glx> you can use your own comparator implementation too 16:40:49 <fonsinchen> I am, that's the problem 16:41:16 <fonsinchen> the saveload code cannot use it because it has to store the Packet IDs first 16:41:45 <fonsinchen> It interprets them as pointers and thus mustn't call a "deep" comparator on them 16:45:21 <Xenoa> pfff... 16:45:37 <Xenoa> ai have huge advantage on fast building railroads =) 16:45:42 *** Horrid [~Horrid@201.171.15.226.dsl.dyn.telnor.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:30 <Horrid> Find out the true statistics on the crimes that negroes commit at Chimp Out Forum! http://chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9680 We are not White Supremacists, rather we are Negro Inferiorists. We welcome all races that aren't Negroid. The criteria for joining Chimpout: Non-negroid and hates niggggras! 16:46:31 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~Horrid@201.171.15.226.dsl.dyn.telnor.net] by DorpsGek 16:46:31 *** Horrid was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Horrid] 16:49:16 <Noldo> aha 16:51:15 <fonsinchen> I could make that field in CargoPacket a union between std::set and std::list, then have the loader load the list, and in Resort call the list's destructor and the set's constructor and swap the packets in. 16:51:42 <fonsinchen> However, if anyone uses the list then, it crashes. 16:52:32 <fonsinchen> gah, that's all ugly. Seems I have to meditate on that some more. 16:59:14 *** Skasi [~Skasi@85-127-105-210.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #openttd [Leaving.] 17:13:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe4ed.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:13:57 *** Elton06209 [~Delphi@189.82.201.174] has joined #openttd 17:18:02 *** Elton06209 [~Delphi@189.82.201.174] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause> <fonsinchen> It interprets them as pointers and thus mustn't call a "deep" comparator on them <- so doesn't that mean just use a different comparator during saveload? 17:25:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure i understood the problem, though 17:26:32 *** Elton04946 [~Delphi@189.82.201.174] has joined #openttd 17:29:12 <Eddi|zuHause> he... it's always funny when people on the suggestions forum announce their "new idea" 17:32:36 <glx> new as new thread about the same idea? 17:34:24 *** daChaac [~daChaac@dsl-kvlbrasgw2-fe05df00-246.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:34:35 <fonsinchen> Eddi|zuHause: you can't change the comparator on a "living" object, it's a template argument. But I have a fairly OK solution of which I'm sure it is portable. 17:35:16 <fonsinchen> I just keep a bunch of temporary lists around for the time between Load_XYZ and Ptrs_XYZ. 17:35:59 <fonsinchen> Granted, this increases the loading code a little, but at least everyone can understand what is happening there. 17:38:57 <fonsinchen> Now I need a really large game (tm) ... 17:39:33 <fonsinchen> ... and openttdcoop is down. 17:39:51 <fonsinchen> ah, no, it's only slow. 17:40:00 <glx> some part of it are on ammler.ch 17:41:04 <Ammler> a rewrite should work until the dns will change 17:41:07 <fonsinchen> the question is: where is the part where you can download those savegames with 1000+ trains? 17:41:32 <daChaac> hi all... I was wondering from development point of the view... what are plans in OpenTTD...? 17:41:40 <fonsinchen> as "Our Servers" just displays an error msg 17:42:05 <Ammler> try the wiki 17:42:12 <Ammler> (archive) 17:42:22 <Ammler> or ask at #openttdcoop 17:43:08 <daChaac> coop ? 17:43:30 <glx> daChaac: it was not for you :) 17:43:31 <Yexo> daChaac: that was not an answer to you :) 17:43:53 <daChaac> ok :) 17:44:07 *** Elton04946 [~Delphi@189.82.201.174] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:44:13 *** Nigbjort [~Nigbjort@201.171.100.192] has joined #openttd 17:44:33 <Yexo> daChaac: in short: whatever fits the game and it coded properly 17:44:44 *** Nigbjort [~Nigbjort@201.171.100.192] has quit [autokilled: Do not spam other people. Mail support@oftc.net if you feel this is in error. (2009-08-19 17:44:44)] 17:45:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17224 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt polish.txt simplified_chinese.txt): 17:45:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 2 changes by arnaullv 17:45:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 12 changes by Gavin, ww9980 17:45:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 20 changes by amateja 17:45:49 <daChaac> Yexo, is there some specific areas where help is needed ? 17:46:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.172.128] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:47:03 <Yexo> bugfixing ;) 17:47:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.172.128] has joined #openttd 17:47:49 <Yexo> just browse a bit through the bugtracker (http://bugs.openttd.org/) to see if there are any features / bugs you'd like to help with and start working on it 17:48:20 <[wito]> daChaac: Or revive CargoDest 17:48:47 <Yexo> or browse through the development forum to see if there is anything that interests you 17:48:49 <glx> [wito]: why ? 17:49:09 <[wito]> glx: Why not? 17:49:45 <glx> fonsinchen is working on CargoDist, I see no real need for CargoDest then :) 17:51:11 <[wito]> glx: I like cargodest better. .( 17:51:30 <glx> [wito]: then try to sync it to current trunk :) 17:51:48 <glx> better restart from scratch 17:59:24 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-12-225-105.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:58 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:00:06 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host86-128-48-192.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:00:51 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:34 <fonsinchen> About 10% speed improvement on PSG 151. I was hoping for more ... 18:04:30 *** OwenS is now known as Guest147 18:04:30 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 18:06:08 *** Guest147 [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:52 *** tech404 [~evan@southernae.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 18:34:35 <Eddi|zuHause> well, do 10 more of these optimations and you have 100% speed improvement ;) 18:35:52 <frosch123> you should decide for a different bank 18:37:39 <Eddi|zuHause> are there still banks left? 18:37:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought they all got swine flu or something... 18:38:28 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:14 <fonsinchen> I posted this bank in FS#3133 as it cannot be improved any further ;) 18:43:24 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... kde4 still has some quirks... especially plasma-desktop 18:43:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it's using 125MB memory, and has display errors all over the place 18:44:04 <fonsinchen> However, I expect that this patch has a much greater effect on cargodist than on trunk ... 18:47:37 <Eddi|zuHause> after restarting, plasma-desktop uses 50MB, not sure if that's better 18:50:26 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEabef.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:10 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:12:10 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:12:17 *** OwenS is now known as Guest154 19:12:17 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 19:13:05 <Fast2> Eddi|zuHause: Nat?rlich hat es eins: "S?ugling" ;) (->"makes me always wonder: why does german not have an own word for "baby"?") 19:14:42 <Fast2> Oh. the topic: Translation: "There is a word for "baby": "S?ugling" " 19:15:05 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:50 <frosch123> you call your gf "S?ugling" ? 19:16:31 <Fast2> gf? 19:16:34 <frosch123> that's slightly pervert 19:16:43 <frosch123> girlfriend 19:17:25 <Fast2> No, but our little children ;) 19:18:00 *** Guest154 [~oshepherd@host86-128-48-192.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:30 <Eddi|zuHause> you have more than one of those? 19:18:52 <frosch123> I have none with him 19:18:59 <Fast2> Hmpf 19:19:15 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:30 <Fast2> With "our" I meant "the german's" 19:21:06 <frosch123> if you were a politician you had already lost by now 19:21:21 <Fast2> Why? 19:23:12 <frosch123> you had to explain three times what you meant :) a politician who needs more than one go to explain why a car+driver is part of the usual earnings including private use (but for appropiate tax), has already lost 19:23:18 <Fast2> Because my english isn't perfect (hey guys, we've got still holidays in Bavaria) 19:23:53 <Fast2> _I_ knew it the first time :P 19:25:05 <frosch123> btw. the average age in here is quite higher than your guess 19:25:49 <Tefad> average age i guess is mid 20s 19:26:01 <Tefad> median is probably lower 19:26:14 <Fast2> Hmmm. 19:27:22 <Fast2> *"hey guys,"|"I'm sorry, but" 19:27:40 * frosch123 guesses the average about 30 or even higher 19:28:55 <Fast2> *+"**" 19:29:19 *** Fast2_ [~Fast2@p57AF9E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:29:20 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29:22 *** Fast2_ is now known as Fast2 19:31:01 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@189.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 19:31:06 <Terkhen> hello 19:31:18 <frosch123> evening 19:37:51 <Fast2> Hello Terkhen 19:49:51 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 19:53:55 <Tefad> how am i supposed to use the AI configuration dialog from the main screen? 19:54:02 <Tefad> i can't seem to choose AIs 19:54:13 <Tefad> n/m i'm a dumbbbass 19:54:20 <frosch123> did you download any? 19:54:33 <Tefad> "Select AI" should be "Change AI" 19:54:42 <Tefad> or something 20:09:35 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@189.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. 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THEY ARE NIUTS!!! 20:17:52 <Belugas> NUTS 20:18:03 * Belugas is unpackingfamily styuff 20:18:54 <frosch123> must be the french roots 20:20:08 *** bb10_ [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:54 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:00 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@64.141.35.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:06 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@64.141.35.45] has joined #openttd 20:25:54 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:07 *** tdev [~udev@p508EB39B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:24 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:39 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:38:24 *** tdev [~udev@p508EB39B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 20:47:27 *** Fuco [~a@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 20:48:55 <glx> <frosch123> must be the french roots <-- nice one :) 20:52:27 <frosch123> yeah, the perfect european drives like the french, cooks like the british, is humorous like the german, is honest like the italians, ... 20:52:54 <glx> ironic :) 20:53:41 <_ln> Watchmen is a great movie 20:58:51 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@64.141.35.45] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:04:09 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:46 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-12-225-105.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:47 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:24 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:15:53 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: could be worse, they could drive like the british :p 21:16:52 <_ln> my little brother is currently in Halle (Saale), how strange is that 21:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause> cool... i'm not ;) 21:17:34 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 21:17:34 *** PierreW [pierre@get-free-money-to-poker-with-at.no-deposit.info] has joined #openttd 21:17:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:17:36 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:38 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 21:17:39 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 21:17:39 *** thingwath [quasselcor@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 21:17:44 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-24-189.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:44 *** totalwormage [~worm@89.188.20.118] has joined #openttd 21:17:45 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.36] has joined #openttd 21:17:46 *** snorre [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 21:17:46 <pavel1269> :-O 21:17:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:17:52 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:17:52 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9E73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:17:53 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 21:17:53 *** Xenoa [~chatzilla@cable-roi-ff36c000-170.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:17:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:55 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 21:17:59 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:18:00 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEabef.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 21:18:09 *** Priski [Prsk@cable-105-162.kymp.net] has joined #openttd 21:18:13 *** Default_ [~quassel@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has joined #openttd 21:18:19 <_ln> wtf, got disconnected for saying that 21:18:21 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:18:25 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:18:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227064149.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:18:47 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B836A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:18:48 <pavel1269> 36 users got kicked .... (charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net) 21:19:19 *** FooBar_ [~FooBar@ammler.ch] has joined #openttd 21:20:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:20:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i did, too. 21:20:37 <Eddi|zuHause> right after sending my reply 21:20:45 <pavel1269> 4secs :P 21:20:51 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@ammler.ch] has joined #openttd 21:20:58 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db03c6c.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 21:21:02 <_ln> it was the angry Peer again 21:21:06 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:21:09 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 21:21:12 *** Ammler [~ammler@ammler.ch] has joined #openttd 21:21:16 <_ln> Peer, what's wrong with mentioning Halle (Saale)+ 21:21:54 *** Ammler is now known as Guest167 21:22:02 <Eddi|zuHause> "In Halle gibts nur Halloren, Hallenser und Hallunken" 21:22:25 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:57 <pavel1269> gn folks 21:23:15 <Eddi|zuHause> (i'm of the second kind) 21:23:21 *** stuffcor1se [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 21:23:38 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@62.245.104.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:29 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:43 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:56 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 21:27:55 *** Guest167 is now known as Ammler 21:35:01 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:46 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:45 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-98-249-11-38.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:07 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-98-249-11-38.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:16 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 21:47:28 *** Elton09743 [~Delphi@189.82.255.217] has joined #openttd 21:56:13 *** Elton09743 [~Delphi@189.82.255.217] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:04 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DE3F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:57 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:19 <TrueBrain> Stage one of LDAP outrole complete: mediawiki knows LDAP (but doesn't use it yet :p) 22:08:48 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 22:11:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17225 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/thai.txt: -Fix (r17213): WT3 did something it wasn't supposed to do 22:12:52 *** ^Spike^ is now known as ^spike^ 22:17:33 <Yexo> TrueBrain: does that mean you're merging openttd accounts? 22:17:48 <TrueBrain> 100% correct :) 22:18:14 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad46218.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:18:25 <Yexo> nice :) 22:18:31 <TrueBrain> yup 22:18:34 <Yexo> there are currently way too much accounts 22:18:41 <TrueBrain> also means we can give SSH access to non-developers in a secure way 22:18:59 <TrueBrain> means easier VCS support (which hints to NoAI :p) 22:19:24 <TrueBrain> http://fisheye3.cenqua.com/browse/flyspray/ <- for those who think their life is not crappy enough 22:23:38 <Sacro> ahhh 22:23:51 <Sacro> freeside (student run linux cluster) uses ldap for single place auth 22:24:04 <Sacro> for ssh, mediawiki, i think mysql too 22:24:22 <TrueBrain> that is what I am working on now :) 22:24:30 <TrueBrain> SSH works (well, PAM access), mediawiki works 22:24:34 <TrueBrain> FlySpray .. well .. sucks :p 22:25:52 <Sacro> errm 22:25:59 <Sacro> i think freeside has abug tracker, not sure though 22:26:13 <Sacro> Yes it does 22:26:17 <Sacro> so that must use ldap too 22:26:19 <TrueBrain> we are not going to switch to another bugtracker just because of this :p 22:26:25 <Sacro> no no 22:26:38 <Sacro> bugs.freeside.co.uk is flyspray 22:26:46 <TrueBrain> ah 22:26:55 <TrueBrain> well ... the current code I read for ldap, is just plain wrong 22:26:57 <Sacro> so it must be possible 22:27:05 <TrueBrain> it is very easy to write yourself :) 22:27:17 <Sacro> heh 22:28:09 <TrueBrain> the current module does this: 22:28:16 <TrueBrain> try to login in local database; if fail, continue 22:28:27 <TrueBrain> try to login in LDAP; if succeeds, add user to local database (including password) 22:28:34 <TrueBrain> now ... how again ... was it useful to have LDAP here? 22:31:55 *** reldred1 [~reldred@115.131.200.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:12 <TrueBrain> Yexo: btw, too many accounts I can live with, but mediawiki has accounts like MB, mb, Mb and mB 22:36:15 <TrueBrain> fun fun fun!! 22:36:28 <Yexo> haha :) 22:37:56 <TrueBrain> btw, Yexo, in the near future I will connect NoAI Redmine to it 22:37:59 <Yexo> many accounts is not a big problem, but it's not nice either. I can think of: tt-forums (not really openttd, but related), wiki, bananas/translator, ssh, noai/redmine, flyspray 22:38:00 <TrueBrain> but I will do this on a re-install 22:38:08 <Yexo> that's 5 accounts + the tt-forums account 22:38:23 <TrueBrain> yup .. those will all be merged :) 22:39:10 <TrueBrain> maybe we can work out something with o r u d g e (to avoid highlight?) to make tt-forums work with it too ;) 22:40:29 <Yexo> for me that wouldn't mattter much, but it does make it easier for people to report a bug on flyspra after asking about it in the forums 22:41:17 *** Netsplit joule.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: Chruker 22:41:18 <TrueBrain> yes .. and we don't have to question account-names :) 22:41:21 <TrueBrain> Yexo here is Yexo there :) 22:41:37 <Yexo> has that ever gone wrong? 22:42:05 <Yexo> <@TrueBrain> but I will do this on a re-install <- does that mean the current data will be lost? 22:42:36 <TrueBrain> never gone wrong, but it annoys me :p 22:42:52 <TrueBrain> and no, of course not, I will do my atmost to keep the data (I most likely copy the database or whatever) 22:43:10 <TrueBrain> but maybe the Redmine data itself will be lost .. I hope not .. but only time will tell :) 22:45:12 <Eddi|zuHause> # you must have had so many lemons 22:45:17 <Eddi|zuHause> # cause you are so bitter 22:46:52 <Prof_Frink> # you must have had so many lemmings 22:46:53 *** stuffcor1se [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:07 <Prof_Frink> # cause you like to walk of cliffs, you daft bugger 22:47:08 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 22:48:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause> "off"? 22:48:41 *** hughht5 [~Hughht5@92.0.63.209] has joined #openttd 22:48:49 <hughht5> hi 22:48:53 <TrueBrain> hello 22:49:00 <hughht5> is this the open ttd irc 22:49:11 <TrueBrain> checking the name ... #openttd .. check 22:49:17 <TrueBrain> checking the title .. openttd.org .. check 22:49:19 <hughht5> awesome 22:49:20 <TrueBrain> I wouls guess it is! 22:49:28 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.7.2 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, translator: translator, server list: servers, nightly-builds: nightly, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only 22:49:29 <hughht5> sorry, had trouble connecting 22:49:35 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by TrueBrain 22:49:37 <TrueBrain> I love you ::babe :) 22:49:40 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: Yes. 22:49:52 <Eddi|zuHause> over in #mathe on quarknet, we used to reply "no, we are a CS clan" ;) 22:49:55 <hughht5> when i host a game no one can find it 22:50:03 <hughht5> its annoying me... anyone know why 22:50:03 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I am in a good mood 22:50:19 <TrueBrain> hughht5: we call it a firewall. Consider configuring it 22:50:21 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: ...we are. 22:50:22 <Eddi|zuHause> we also had a matching clan page to show :p 22:50:23 <TrueBrain> @openttd ports 22:50:23 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound) 22:50:32 <hughht5> o ok 22:50:33 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: now that is awesome 22:50:36 <hughht5> fair enough 22:50:38 <Eddi|zuHause> but it's now defunct 22:50:42 <Xaroth> TrueBrain is full of information tonight 22:50:49 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: yes, I can be like that :) 22:50:57 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: back then, you had to show a clan page to get the Q bot 22:51:02 <TrueBrain> I had a tiny bit too much to drink today :p 22:51:10 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: ah, those days :) 22:51:18 <hughht5> anyone wanna game then 22:51:20 <TrueBrain> I had a nice swim in our local 'sloot' .. 22:51:31 <Xaroth> o_O 22:51:35 <Prof_Frink> Is that what you call it? 22:51:43 <TrueBrain> it was so fucking hot outside ... it was ... nice :) 22:52:01 <TrueBrain> hughht5: we are not that kind of channel ;) Hehe :) No, without kidding, rarely there are people here who feel like gaming :) 22:53:17 <hughht5> fair enough 22:53:27 *** hughht5 [~Hughht5@92.0.63.209] has quit [] 22:53:42 <TrueBrain> yes, we were happy we could help you .. and good bye to you too .. 22:53:46 <TrueBrain> no manners :( 22:55:03 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227064149.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 22:55:33 <TrueBrain> I wish you all a very good night 22:55:38 *** ^spike^ [~spike@dhcp-077-251-090-192.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Not here] 22:56:29 <Xaroth> nn TrueBrain 23:01:45 <Yexo> night TrueBrain 23:06:51 <Fast2> I'm wondering what "BaNaNaS" could be. I read up to page five on Google with "bananas software" as search term, but I didn't find anything related to software but a (few) screensaver(s), a "Web Content Managiement for Marketing and a bookkeeping-software 23:07:44 <Fast2> Backspace is too close to enter 23:07:55 <Yexo> Fast2: try bananas.openttd.org 23:08:18 <Fast2> Ah :) 23:08:51 <Fast2> So "translator" means "translator.openttd.org"? 23:09:24 <Fast2> Thank you 23:10:54 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. it's a riddle. 23:11:15 <Eddi|zuHause> if you can solve it, you are one step closer to illumination. 23:11:45 <Yexo> Fast2: indeed :) 23:11:49 <OwenS> illumination? What kind of light setup? 23:12:15 <Eddi|zuHause> 5.1 23:12:37 <OwenS> 5.1 sound? Interesting 23:12:41 <OwenS> light** 23:13:46 <Fast2> A light bulp surronded by five other lights? Cool :D 23:14:00 *** Leanden [~Leanden@212.219.74.29] has joined #openttd 23:17:24 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 23:21:17 <Belugas> naaaa... a light bulb surrounded by candles 23:22:03 <Belugas> or is it an oignon bulb surrounded by 5 flashlights? 23:22:15 <Belugas> or... a candle surrounded by 5 fireflies? 23:22:33 <Belugas> hooo... i'm not sure anymore o_O 23:24:03 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:36:31 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEb28b.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 23:38:55 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 23:40:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:21 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:33 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEabef.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:43:11 <Fast2> No, it's a flood bulp with 5000W surrounded by five flourescent bars 23:45:33 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:51 *** Leanden [~Leanden@212.219.74.29] has left #openttd [] 23:50:20 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-148-36-126.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:50:55 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.248.95] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3] 23:51:42 *** reldred2 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:52:37 <Fast2> By the way: What's an "oignon bulb"? LEO doesn't know this word 23:57:55 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:02 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEb28b.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]