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00:13:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:22 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 01:00:21 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:04:09 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DCF41.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:15 <DaleStan> Rubidium: Can you prod the TTDPatch compile farm, please? It seems to only have generated source archives for r2186, and there are no logs explaining why the binaries aren't present. 01:19:19 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.149.15] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3] 01:19:56 <Fast2> Good night 01:24:10 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:22 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 01:27:57 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB291.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:20 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485BDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:05 <z-MaTRiX> bb 01:39:58 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40:56 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CF9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:45 <Dreamxtreme> epic win 01:44:00 <Dreamxtreme> bought out all 14 AI's 01:44:14 <Dreamxtreme> only took 8 hours 02:00:48 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:15 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 02:10:22 *** nfc_ [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:48 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has quit [Quit: rehashing] 02:31:58 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:b402:a777:bfea:6eff] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:36:13 *** JFBelugas [~jfranc@ip-225.84.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: Wife calls...] 02:59:08 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:59 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@168.226.104.48] has joined #openttd 03:09:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:10:10 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:13:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:39:47 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:04 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 03:43:45 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:47:13 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:47:32 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 03:58:24 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26:17 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@168.226.104.48] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:37:33 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EA984.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:55:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1A9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:57:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B23AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:57:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 05:24:52 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EA984.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:30:54 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:07 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 05:36:07 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0F9A8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 06:08:10 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:16:04 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 06:41:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B877.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:46:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B877.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13:16 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B23AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1CE4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:15:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:21:31 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EA984.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:40:44 <Rubidium> DaleStan: explanation would be an upgrade of the compile farm that had an unwanted side effect in the TTDP VM (not loading a module) 07:56:20 <TrueBrain> hmm .. by default linux doesn't seems to read GPT partitions :( 07:59:16 <blathijs> GPT? 07:59:31 <TrueBrain> GUID Partition Table 08:00:57 <blathijs> Ah, that sounds useful and not necessarily obscure :-) 08:02:48 <TrueBrain> as someone told me: EVEN WINDOWS SUPPORTS IT! :p 08:03:36 <blathijs> Linux probably supports it, but apparently your distro doesn't enable it by default? 08:04:34 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8369.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 08:04:37 <TrueBrain> indeed :) 08:05:50 <Rubidium> like... windows XP/Vista support >4 GB of memory in x86, yet don't enable it by default? 08:06:45 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: we established that yesterday 08:16:27 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:18:57 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 08:22:02 <planetmaker> g'morning folks 08:22:06 <TrueBrain> howdie planetmaker 08:24:02 <TrueBrain> um 08:24:05 <TrueBrain> hmm 08:24:11 <TrueBrain> well, there you have to start of my typing umount 08:27:54 <planetmaker> umount /dev/irc ? ;-) 08:31:59 <planetmaker> he... you have upx installed for windows and macos on your CF, but not for linux? 08:32:50 <Rubidium> I fucked up a bit when reverting to an older VM image 08:33:02 <Rubidium> ls 08:34:24 <planetmaker> he... 08:36:22 <Rubidium> grrr 08:37:00 * Rubidium is going insane 08:37:14 <Rubidium> I just fracking installed upx :( 08:37:22 <Rubidium> and it fails again on it 08:37:58 <tdev> btw, http://openttd.buildbotfarm.net 08:38:06 <Rubidium> and when I did a test compile it worked just fine with upx (AFAICS) 08:38:34 <Rubidium> tdev: what's the point in that? 08:38:40 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:38:43 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 08:38:53 <tdev> playing around with buildbot 08:39:19 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@231.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 08:40:21 <Terkhen> good morning 08:41:30 <Rubidium> tdev: then make it *very* clear that it is in no way related to any official openttd business 08:41:44 <tdev> ok, wait 08:41:51 <Rubidium> I don't like getting complaints about it 08:42:02 <Rubidium> (like we get complaints about other people's custom builds) 08:43:24 <tdev> done :) 08:43:33 <tdev> not really ... :| 08:44:32 <tdev> i was setting up some other buildbots, so i set up one for openttd as well :) 08:44:34 <planetmaker> just add to that line "and not officially connected to OpenTTD.org. So don't complain to the devs, if you have problems with anything displayed here, but contact <name, e-mail> instead" 08:45:20 <Rubidium> nevertheless it's failing :) 08:46:12 <tdev> no, its still running 08:46:13 <tdev> http://openttd.buildbotfarm.net:10301/waterfall 08:46:30 <tdev> cppcheck needs long for your massice amount of source files ... 08:46:51 <Rubidium> cppcheck? why's that needed? 08:47:02 <tdev> its not needed 08:47:17 <tdev> its useful i hope :) 08:48:57 <planetmaker> what does it do? 08:49:25 <tdev> checking for common coding errors 08:49:36 <tdev> but idk if thats something of quality yet. 08:49:45 <tdev> see its output there: http://openttd.buildbotfarm.net:10301/builders/trunk_linux_x86/builds/1/steps/compile_1/logs/stdio 08:50:14 <tdev> for example: [src/group_cmd.cpp:96]: (error) Memory leak: g 08:50:59 <Rubidium> tdev: now, please reproduce that with the actual code 08:51:23 <tdev> what do you mean? 08:51:47 <Rubidium> that it's a false positive 08:52:12 <tdev> could be, as i said, idk if its of value 08:52:12 <Rubidium> as probably most (if not all) 'memory leaks' that it reports are 08:52:28 <tdev> the lighttpd group found a memory leak and fixed it with that 08:53:01 <tdev> if you have ideas for better static code analysis tools, just say ;) 08:53:37 <Rubidium> it's just that we're doing some tricks that make most static code analysis pointless 08:53:38 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@102.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 08:54:35 <Rubidium> like most (if not all) variable not initialized warnings are due to it not figuring out that 'new' does memset(0) 08:55:05 <tdev> yeah, i removed cppcheck... 08:57:27 <tdev> it builds now, and should happily update upon every commit 08:57:43 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@231.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:50 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 09:01:27 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:42 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:05:02 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08:45 <planetmaker> you'll be slower than the commit frequency at times. 09:10:32 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:12:49 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:03 <tdev> planetmaker, im sure it will handle that ;) 09:19:09 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:19:50 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.36] has joined #openttd 09:22:10 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 09:25:35 *** Irregardless [~foo@122.162.167.218] has joined #openttd 09:26:19 *** Irregardless is now known as Aankhen`` 09:26:41 *** tdev_ [~tdev@p508EC664.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:49 <Rubidium> and regarding to lighttpd: they aren't really bothered about extreme memory usage 09:32:34 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 09:33:54 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EA984.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:39 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-28-7-22.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:24 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:41:06 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA504.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:21:39 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbml] 10:22:39 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DE6DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-101-210.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 10:32:08 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 10:33:21 *** remaxim [~maxim@jaim.at] has joined #openttd 10:33:36 <remaxim> hi 10:33:58 <remaxim> is openttd already playable without the original game? 10:34:40 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yes and no 10:36:35 <planetmaker> yes and yes :-) 10:36:45 <planetmaker> and yes and no ;-) 10:36:58 <planetmaker> (in order of the climates in the main menu) 10:37:30 <planetmaker> e.g. toyland is no fun with OpenGFX right now. If you're into drawing: contributions highly welcome 10:40:27 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:40:52 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 10:41:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and no, 0.7 does not yet support sound replacement (you can, however, play without sound with a little workaround) 10:43:22 <Ammler> [12:37] <planetmaker> e.g. toyland is no fun with OpenGFX right now. <-- well, as much fun as with originial is it for sure. 10:43:51 <planetmaker> well... different 10:44:10 <planetmaker> black-box industries are hardly discernible. 10:44:31 <Ammler> original toyland isn't playable at all ;-) 10:44:51 <Ammler> or show me a screenshot thread with toyland... 10:45:44 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DE6DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:44 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 10:50:43 <planetmaker> :-) 10:55:58 *** tdev_ [~tdev@p508EC664.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:02:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.18.79] has joined #openttd 11:12:49 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:14 <remaxim> oh, I just realized someone answered 11:29:11 <remaxim> I promised to come back when there is some original content (= playable without the original game) and maybe try to create some music 11:29:31 <remaxim> I don't really get if it is that far already 11:29:31 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:32:27 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:35:24 <Ammler> remaxim: maybe help OpenSFX to finish the first sournd replacement? 11:35:28 <Ammler> -r 11:36:16 <Ammler> I guess, there is no easy support for music replacement, and not sure, if there are serious plans to do so. 11:36:28 <remaxim> Ammler, what is opensfx supposed to be? 11:36:36 <Ammler> the sound replacement 11:36:43 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:04 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:37:10 <Ammler> remaxim: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opensfx/repository/entry/docs/readme.txt 11:37:13 <remaxim> so there is no code for playing sound? 11:37:36 <Ammler> yes, there is. 11:37:45 <Ammler> (in trunk (nightlies) at least 11:37:50 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-28-7-22.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38:11 <Ammler> I thought, you like to make *music* replacement. 11:38:42 <remaxim> that s what I thought about... 11:39:09 <blathijs> remaxim: There is currently no code to support arbitrary music files, just the ones from the original TTD I think 11:39:32 <remaxim> hm... I get it 11:39:34 <blathijs> but if someone would create a cool music set, someone might work on integrating it, of course :-) 11:40:16 <remaxim> thanks for the info 11:40:28 <remaxim> ll maybe will have a look at the project in the future again 11:40:37 <Ammler> remaxim: but it would be cool to finish the sounds ;-) 11:40:48 <remaxim> Ammler, lol... 11:41:02 <Ammler> again, sounds != music 11:41:10 <remaxim> don't mistake me for a sound designer, that s something completly different 11:41:32 <Ammler> ok, you see the difference :-) 11:41:45 <remaxim> exactly ... why do you think I would do sounds? 11:42:08 <Ammler> because those are nessecary, music isn't and imo there is also no need. 11:42:21 <Ammler> as you can play music with your usual players. 11:43:19 <remaxim> Ammler, with that attitude you ll scare away many people... I am a musician, I am not interested nor do I have the technical skills to create sounds 11:43:33 <remaxim> that s like saying to a movie maker to draw a picture 11:43:42 <remaxim> just not the same, and very insulting 11:43:46 <Ammler> hehe, don't get me wrong. 11:44:38 <Ammler> what does you stop from making music for ttd now? 11:44:49 <remaxim> especially as in every second OSS project people don't get the difference 11:45:24 <remaxim> Ammler, I don't feel like the project is that far yet... so I don't really have the urge to contribute some music yet 11:45:34 <blathijs> remaxim: From a programmer's perspective, sound and music are both this weird audio thing we don't have any clue about :-p 11:45:41 <Ammler> it plays music since 1995/96 11:46:09 <blathijs> remaxim: That that far in what perspective? Because there is no support for alternative music sets? 11:46:40 <Ammler> my "OpenTTD" has that since start. 11:47:11 <Ammler> it might be very cool to play TTD like music. 11:47:14 <remaxim> blathijs, I am a programmer as well ... I know that, but I feel like it belongs to the necessary soft skills to know the difference and acknowledge it as such one 11:47:33 * Ammler isn't one, btw. 11:48:10 <Ammler> programmers might be the minority in this channel. 11:48:56 <remaxim> no, actually it's more about people saying "yes and no" on the game being playable alone 11:49:52 <Eddi|zuHause> remaxim: the music driver should be able to play midi files, but don't count me on that 11:52:08 <remaxim> Eddi|zuHause, thanks for letting me know. 11:52:23 <remaxim> I have to go then 11:52:26 <remaxim> bye 11:52:39 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:99ed:4fa7:4cc4:b7fe] has joined #openttd 11:52:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:52:57 *** remaxim [~maxim@jaim.at] has left #openttd [] 11:57:04 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-28-7-22.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:50 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.251.40] has joined #openttd 12:06:01 <TrueBrain> what was I doing .. 12:06:06 <TrueBrain> ah yes, getting a working DSDT .. 12:11:02 <blathijs> TrueBrain: Anything in particular you're trying to fix? 12:11:08 <TrueBrain> OSX :) 12:11:15 <TrueBrain> but iasl doesn't like the DSDT vbox gives 12:11:25 <blathijs> It doesn't? That's stupid... 12:11:27 <TrueBrain> it contains noops in invalid places ... now I wonder if it would be wrong if I just removed those noops ... 12:11:33 <TrueBrain> stupid doesn't start to describe it ;) 12:11:36 <blathijs> hehe 12:12:20 <TrueBrain> and DSDT is not the most documented thing of a computer :p 12:13:38 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.251.40] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:10 <TrueBrain> I hate it when I installed a new compiler and have to make a small change in my kernel ... a recompile is never funny :( 12:18:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never done a kernel compile... 12:18:56 <TrueBrain> 90% of my systems run a custom kernel 12:19:07 <TrueBrain> (including most of the production servers) 12:19:36 <blathijs> same here 12:19:55 <blathijs> Actually, 100% of my linux systems run a custom kernel I think 12:20:07 <TrueBrain> I have a few 'vanilla' debian kernels 12:20:08 <blathijs> Though my FlexVPS kernel isn't compiled by me :-p 12:23:10 <Rubidium> hmm... remaxim already left :( blathijs, technically OpenTTD doesn't care about the music files, so you can easily substitute them with others as long as they are in the same format (some kind of midi) 12:23:29 <blathijs> Rubidium: Don't they need the same filenames then? 12:23:43 <blathijs> (I thought OpenTTD had a hardcoded list of filenames and song titles?) 12:24:22 <Rubidium> that is true 12:25:33 <Ammler> Rubidium: I would wait until he makes some music for openttd, else you implement music replacement and nbody makes them, like 32bpp sprites. 12:25:47 <Rubidium> but moving those filenames and song titles out of OpenTTD into some 'config' files should not be the big deal; without music there's no need to make it 'configurable' 12:26:23 <Rubidium> but without having it configurable you can make the music files; you'll just get the wrong title and you've got some naming 'issues' 12:26:46 <Rubidium> where 'issue' means that you need to name it like the old music files 12:26:46 *** TheStarLion [~isaac@87.112.91.151.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 12:27:57 *** TheStarLion [~isaac@87.112.91.151.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [] 12:29:21 <Rubidium> how useful... 2 tickets for the price of 1 for Legoland Deutschland :( 12:29:30 <Rubidium> on a bottle bought in the NL 12:33:47 *** thisismynick [~chatzilla@77.51.85.103] has joined #openttd 12:39:42 <TrueBrain> reboot time! :) 12:41:22 <blathijs> TrueBrain: hf 12:46:16 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.228.174] has joined #openttd 12:48:26 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 12:49:29 <TrueBrain> whoho, the DSDT is accepted 12:49:39 <TrueBrain> now only I need to find back the HD in the correct way .. 12:49:45 <blathijs> :-) 12:49:57 <TrueBrain> it complains about invalid checksum cookie :p 12:50:17 <Rubidium> ooh... misbaksel! :) 12:50:28 <TrueBrain> hehe, I guess 12:50:47 <Rubidium> poor cookie not fit for consumption 12:54:42 <TrueBrain> bah bah bah, this is the part I hate about OSX ... 12:54:51 <Belugas> hello 12:54:57 * TrueBrain hugs Belugas 12:55:07 <Belugas> i'm working for the two next days with a guy from toronto 12:55:09 <Belugas> you hou 12:55:13 <Belugas> on card processing 12:55:16 <Belugas> you houo 12:55:20 <Belugas> hello TrueBrain 12:55:25 <Belugas> weirdo... 12:55:27 <Belugas> or schizo... 12:55:30 <Belugas> whuauaua!! 12:55:33 <TrueBrain> all the above ;) 12:55:40 <Rubidium> youpidou! 12:58:34 <Rubidium> weren't you like in Toronto about 2 weeks ago? 13:01:08 <TrueBrain> bah bah bah ... so close ... and no idea how to solve this :( 13:01:42 <Belugas> i was, Rubidium, but in vacations ;) 13:01:54 <Belugas> so.. not entirely a business trip! 13:02:18 <Belugas> so... it means i would not be able to be too much of a party animal for the few days 13:02:25 * Belugas runs on work 13:02:29 <Belugas> ave a nice day 13:14:10 <TrueBrain> so the milion dollar question: why oh why does it not boot :p 13:15:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B877.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:44 <Rubidium> oh, like weekend millionaires? 13:18:19 <Rubidium> I still have the 3 "whatever they're called in English, but the things to get help", right? 13:18:40 <TrueBrain> yes 13:19:14 <welshdragon> is there a way to convert all signals on a map? 13:19:46 <TrueBrain> yes: the demolish tool 13:19:51 <TrueBrain> converts them all to plain land 13:20:17 <welshdragon> that's not good 13:20:27 <TrueBrain> then you should be more specific I guess :) 13:20:48 <welshdragon> i was! 13:20:51 <welshdragon> ok then 13:21:14 <welshdragon> how do i convert all semaphore signals to colour signals on a train line? 13:21:21 <Rubidium> oh... where's my 18-inch hammer-of-truth? 13:21:39 * welshdragon runs away from Rubidium 13:25:43 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 13:26:40 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 13:26:47 <TrueBrain> sigh ... brick wall again 13:28:02 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA504.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:30:22 <Eddi|zuHause> <Rubidium> I still have the 3 "whatever they're called in English, but the things to get help", right? <- i think i heard someone call them "life lines" 13:30:30 <Belugas> got your helmet on, TrueBrain? 13:33:16 <Eddi|zuHause> (they're called "Joker" in german, which might be derived from card games) 13:33:26 <TrueBrain> Belugas: yeah ... 13:33:46 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: is it made of tin foil? 13:33:53 <TrueBrain> sadly enough, that too 13:34:11 <TrueBrain> no page tells me what this 'invalid checksum' means and what I can do to fix it .. 13:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause> because no sane osx user ever came across this situation? 13:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause> (not implying that there exists such a person) 13:35:26 <TrueBrain> enough people are trying OSX86 ;) 13:49:45 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:54:13 <TrueBrain> bah, enough is enough .. stupid OSX :( 13:54:32 <TrueBrain> at least I can run it locally .. but vbox is giving me a hard time on something I don't understand :( 13:56:05 <Belugas> press "any key" ? 13:56:09 <Belugas> ;) 13:57:22 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:25 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:00:40 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:05:22 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 14:07:56 <Belugas> pffff... that guy is slow... i use to run my certifications at a much higher speed :S 14:13:10 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 14:15:56 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 14:16:06 *** thisismynick [~chatzilla@77.51.85.103] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 14:18:20 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-28-7-22.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 14:18:53 *** octo [octo@if-loop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.175.98] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:38 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:44 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 14:22:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.175.98] has joined #openttd 14:35:23 * Belugas needs music 14:35:30 * Belugas cannot put headphones on 14:35:43 <Belugas> "fun" of working with someone else :S 14:36:48 <Belugas> freaking no-virtual-human-being-interface 14:41:49 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 14:41:57 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:46:36 *** octo [octo@if-loop.org] has joined #openttd 14:48:22 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051142208.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:49:36 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-97.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:50:28 <TrueBrain> k, more then enough OSX for today .... 14:50:55 <glx> you're more patient than me :) 14:54:12 <Belugas> or stuborn ;) 14:56:08 <Belugas> and i know how stuborn glx can be :) 14:56:10 <Sacro> TrueBrain: sounds like you need to sort that too 14:56:18 <Sacro> you booting -v -f? 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NEXT EPISODE!] 14:59:42 <TrueBrain> Sacro: OH NO! The most obvious first suggestion any forum/website/person makes regarding this, I haven't tried yet! :) 14:59:52 <TrueBrain> lol, sorry, but if you want to start making suggestions, ask for the problem, and help fixing them :) 15:00:05 <TrueBrain> giving random of-the-stock suggestions won't help me, not even a bit :) 15:01:46 <Sacro> TrueBrain: i've just woken up :P 15:01:52 <Sacro> right, what are you getting? 15:02:24 <TrueBrain> ATA Disk: checksum cookie not valid 15:02:39 <TrueBrain> most likely because vbox fucks something up ... and I can't get it traced :( 15:02:50 <TrueBrain> also the 10.6 installer is broken, it doesn't run all packages under root user 15:03:02 <TrueBrain> and 10.4 installer refuses to start, telling me my system is not compatible 15:03:14 <Sacro> I've never done it under Virtualbox, only KVM 15:03:27 <Sacro> KVM and err... the other one 15:03:43 <Sacro> qemu, but i had to patch quemu first 15:04:55 <Sacro> i'm guessing you are trying an official disc, not a patched one 15:05:28 <TrueBrain> it doesn't matter 15:08:14 <glx> virtual or real HD ? 15:09:04 <TrueBrain> real 15:12:51 <TrueBrain> (well, as real as it can get under vbox) 15:13:36 <Sacro> as in mapped to an actual partiton? 15:15:16 <TrueBrain> as in: vbox emulates it anyway 15:17:16 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46447.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:21 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-97.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:55:21 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485BDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:10 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:57:44 <Belugas> 45 transactions already 15:57:49 <Belugas> long process... 16:01:18 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 16:03:55 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:55 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:27 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has joined #openttd 16:13:21 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:13:33 <Zuu> Hi 16:14:07 <Zuu> I checked on vcs.openttd.org but couldn't find anything that seamed to match fixing the issues with the last win32 nightly. 16:14:41 <Zuu> Has the issue with last nightly not being compiled/available for win32 been addressed already? 16:17:02 <Belugas> looking at the commits since compile, i'd say no 16:21:10 <Belugas> mmh.. cannot find the compile logs either 16:21:16 <Belugas> of win32 that is 16:21:27 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 16:23:07 <TrueBrain> Zuu: only start to worry if a compile failed for more than 2 connected days 16:23:22 <Belugas> mbgrgroaaa mumblinggrrrr 16:23:33 * Belugas silences stomach 16:23:41 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Okay 16:23:43 <TrueBrain> SILENCE! I KILL YOU! 16:23:56 * TrueBrain loves Jeff Dunham :) 16:26:29 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 16:26:53 <TrueBrain> Zuu: so in 75 minutes you know if you really have to start to worry :) 16:27:17 <Zuu> :-) 16:28:30 <Zuu> Figured that I really didn't need to upgrade in order to check which tags are used by different AIs. Other than I might miss some AIs out that require something newer than r16600. 16:32:37 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.43] has joined #openttd 16:33:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.169.168] has joined #openttd 16:34:17 <Zuu> Could of course check on my laptop where I have a much more recent nightly. 16:37:33 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:38:40 <glx> Zuu: win32 compiles fine for me, so I just blame CF ;) 16:38:58 <Zuu> glx: nice 16:39:04 <Zuu> Thanks for checking out. 16:39:43 <Zuu> Couldn't find any AIs available on r17295 but not on r16600. 16:40:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.175.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:58 <TrueBrain> Zuu: you could have just downloaded any older nightly :p 16:45:50 <Zuu> But then i need to do it manually. If I have spent a huge amount of hours to write OpenTTD Auto Update, then of course I want to use it. :-p 16:46:00 <TrueBrain> ghehehe :) 16:46:02 <TrueBrain> fair enough ;) 16:46:50 <Rubidium> so that calls for a feature: the latest *available* nightly! 16:47:04 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: we don't supply that info :p 16:47:25 <Rubidium> true 16:47:42 <Zuu> So that would require me to keep a list somewhere of nightlies that have been published as last nightly previously. => more work 16:47:58 <TrueBrain> I think we need a buildbot 16:48:02 * TrueBrain gniffels now 16:48:07 <Rubidium> well, doesn't "feature" imply "more work"? 16:48:38 <Zuu> Though it could be intrepreted from the http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/ page 16:48:38 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that requires running OSX native 16:48:45 * Rubidium gniffles now 16:48:55 <TrueBrain> Zuu: please don't ... HUGE page ... 16:48:59 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: working on it ........ 16:49:40 <Belugas> burp 16:50:06 <Zuu> TrueBrain: Don't wory, I am not in the mood for doing it and that would certainly require caching of that page. 16:50:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 16:53:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@89.15.245.29] has joined #openttd 16:55:47 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:47 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46447.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:54 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:37 *** TrogDoor [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-28.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 17:02:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:03:03 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:19 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-97.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:08:22 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46447.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:46 *** TrogDoor is now known as Doorslammer 17:18:32 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8369.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:07 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-28.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 17:34:40 <Belugas> toumtedoum te PAM PAM! 17:42:23 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeja39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17332 /trunk/src/lang/ (english_US.txt german.txt italian.txt korean.txt): 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: english_US - 1 changes by agenthh 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by Roujin 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 5 changes by lorenzodv 17:45:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 20 changes by darkhasa 17:47:35 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051142208.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 17:48:45 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:51:58 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 17:53:42 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46447.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:37 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:37 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:40 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 18:01:49 <Kodak> how do i enable the trams? 18:01:58 <Kodak> they seem to be disabled for my game :\ 18:02:02 <Zuu> Load a GRF with trams 18:02:24 <Kodak> i can't after a game is started, can i? 18:02:49 <Zuu> It might work to add it afterwards, as it is mostly removing that is dangerous. 18:03:00 <Zuu> But definitely save before you add it. 18:03:24 <Zuu> Also adding grfs that can conflict with other grfs can cause trouble. 18:03:41 <Kodak> k, but i really don't bother with anything else 18:03:49 <Kodak> generic tram set if alright with me 18:04:00 <Zuu> Sure that is a good start. 18:04:26 <Kodak> all the newgrf settings are greyed out though.. 18:04:36 <Kodak> do i have to do it from the main menu? 18:04:46 <Zuu> Hmm, not if you want to affect a running game. 18:05:07 <Zuu> Are you on a multiplayer game? 18:06:31 <Zuu> When you got the generic trams grf loaded, then you click on the roads toolbar button and hold the mouse button and find a tram option there. 18:09:23 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09:30 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:33 <Kodak> well it's a loaded multiplayer game, yeah 18:10:00 <Kodak> i just don't get why it wasn't already loaded, the generic tram set 18:10:08 <Kodak> we realised after starting the game 18:10:24 <Kodak> and now it's 2003 -.- 18:10:27 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:11:48 <Zuu> If you want to have it loaded for new games, then you need to do that in the NewGRFs dialog in the main menu. 18:13:09 <Zuu> That said, I just tried to load a multiplayer game I hosted long time ago with a friend, and the NewGRF settings are not grayed out. 18:13:16 <Zuu> At least not the Add-button. 18:13:31 <Zuu> Using r16600 18:13:38 <Zuu> What OpenTTD version do you use? 18:14:00 <Kodak> i loaded it in the main menu now anyway 18:14:03 <Kodak> 0.7.2 18:16:08 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 18:16:21 <Kodak> hey, i loaded it in single player, and the Add worked 18:16:31 <Kodak> gave me a warning it might crash, but i accepted 18:16:36 <Kodak> no crash :P 18:16:47 <Kodak> saved it, and gonna load in multiplayer now 18:16:51 <Kodak> let's hope it works alright :P 18:17:40 *** petern [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:17:43 <Kodak> seems to be working :) 18:22:25 <Kodak> is there a shorcut key to access the road construction menu? 18:22:45 <Kodak> or how about any of the other construction menus? 18:22:55 <Kodak> i know "A" for railway 18:23:57 <Rubidium> Shift+F8? 18:24:32 <Zuu> And then 3 for autoroad 18:24:41 <Zuu> (when you have opened the road toolbar) 18:26:28 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:36 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:52 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:56:45 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 18:57:08 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:08:05 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:43 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:39 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 19:14:08 <planetmaker> good evening 19:15:06 <Prof_Frink> Evenin' Slarti 19:16:12 <SmatZ> hello Ingo 19:16:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17333 /trunk/src/ (roadveh_cmd.cpp yapf/yapf.h yapf/yapf_road.cpp): 19:16:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: make the road pathfinder 'interface' like the one for the rail pathfinder 19:16:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#3057]: road vehicles forgetting their servicing order when the path takes them away (in bird distance) from their destination first 19:18:12 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:11 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has quit [] 19:23:00 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Quit: Power supply maintenance] 19:30:33 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:40 <fjb> Hello 19:30:45 <planetmaker> hi 19:33:13 <frosch123> moin 19:33:27 * Zuu waves 19:33:43 * Belugas splashes 19:34:26 <planetmaker> hm... where do I find e.g. the code which is executed, if an assert happens on a windows machine, which handles the information gathered and displayed in that case? 19:34:59 <Zuu> You need the pdb file I think 19:35:00 <frosch123> the crashlog thingie? 19:35:13 <planetmaker> yes. The equivalent to what I find in macos.mm 19:35:28 <Zuu> As well as a dumpfile that has been created when OpenTTD crashes. 19:35:50 * Rubidium thinks pm is looking for a filename, right? Tried win32.cpp? 19:36:01 <planetmaker> no, I didn't try :-D 19:36:20 <planetmaker> I was rather (unsuccessfully) grepping for things which came to my mind and might be in there, too 19:37:00 <planetmaker> hm... why is macos stuff in src/os/macosx, but the windows stuff in src ? 19:37:18 <Rubidium> hysterical raisins :) 19:37:44 <planetmaker> :-) 19:38:01 <planetmaker> Zuu: thanks nevertheless. I should have been more clear 19:40:48 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:57 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:01 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: and because mac needs so many files :p 19:42:52 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: the win* files are half as many as in src/os/macosx, but in size, they're twice as much code 19:43:28 <TrueBrain> :) 19:43:29 <TrueBrain> I know :p 19:43:37 <planetmaker> :-P 19:43:47 <planetmaker> pf. and I had to look it up ;-) 19:44:45 <planetmaker> does the windows crash handler actually report the newgrfs used? 19:46:00 <TrueBrain> I believe it does, but that you will need to look up :p :p 19:47:11 <Rubidium> yes it does 19:47:34 <Rubidium> https://secure.openttd.org/bugs/task/3100/getfile/4600/crash.log 19:47:41 <Rubidium> or actually, it dumps the gamelog 19:48:01 <Rubidium> which is slightly more verbose than 'just' the NewGRFs that are used at that moment 19:48:17 <TrueBrain> is it a general function? 19:48:24 <Rubidium> yup 19:48:35 <TrueBrain> so why doesn't the OSX version have it? :p 19:48:41 <planetmaker> hm... that then should be used there, too ^^ 19:49:01 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:20 <Rubidium> well, at least generic enough 19:49:34 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: primarily because of FS#2782 19:50:04 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I meant more: he who added it the general function, should have done OSX too :p :p 19:50:05 <planetmaker> :-P 19:50:23 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: without a way to test it? 19:50:40 <planetmaker> well. It's basically writing a text file. 19:50:58 <planetmaker> Which is more or less OS-independent. Or is my conception of this crash.log wrong? 19:50:58 <Rubidium> yes, which osx isn't doing at the moment 19:51:04 <planetmaker> obviously 19:51:13 <Rubidium> crash.log is only made for windows 19:51:20 <Rubidium> linux/osx don't do it 19:51:25 <planetmaker> what does lin do in such case? 19:51:41 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I guess it is time to make all platforms generate such file? 19:53:35 <Rubidium> then you first need a way to reliably capture the crashes 19:54:17 <TrueBrain> why? If it can generate it in 20% of the cases, it is more than in 0% ;) 19:54:24 <planetmaker> the gamelog is started anyway, is it? 19:54:35 <TrueBrain> either way, isn't signal() not reliable enough? 19:54:41 <planetmaker> it's just not written, right? 19:54:47 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:49 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: nope, it crashes on (some) OSXes 19:54:59 <TrueBrain> ah, that problem :) But that was fixed, not? 19:55:05 <Rubidium> no, it was hacked around 19:55:12 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:27 <TrueBrain> ah :) Still ;) 19:55:44 * Rubidium wonders how signal and gdb work together 20:01:17 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 20:01:42 <planetmaker> sigXXX crashes some OSX? interesting... 20:04:55 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 20:08:37 <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/15648 20:09:40 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: so you say we first need to fix this rare case and exception, before we can make a system that generates crash.log for all systems? 20:09:43 <TrueBrain> sounds a bit .. unreasonable 20:10:18 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:40 <Rubidium> no, just don't expect me to make it for morhpos or os/2 or get it tested on OSX 20:10:42 <planetmaker> hm, ok. 10.3 20:11:01 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I never did ;) I just asked if it wasn't time to do so :) 20:11:05 <TrueBrain> I never asked you to do anything ;) 20:11:38 <Rubidium> in that case: it's always time for someone to code some improvement :) 20:11:40 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:48 <TrueBrain> so you agree it would be an improvment .. wasn't that what I was asking? :) 20:12:50 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 20:14:33 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: not really; I interpreted as someone saying, 'TrueBrain, isn't it time to do the groceries?' 20:15:07 <TrueBrain> haha, fair point :) Was not intended at all, as in fact I was kind of suggesting I took on that task .. or maybe planetmaker :p 20:15:13 <Rubidium> i.e. go do the groceries you lazy guy 20:16:02 <TrueBrain> either way, strange defense: no, I don't do the groceries, as there might be a roadwork between here and the grociers , in a street I rarely take anyway :p 20:18:46 <planetmaker> he... honestly, I think a complete cross-platform unification / partly re-write of how crashes are handled might be still a bit over my head 20:19:04 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: 'complete' might be too much :) 20:19:17 <TrueBrain> just the fact to generate a crash.log and put similar info in it, might be enough :) 20:19:19 <planetmaker> ;-) 20:19:26 <TrueBrain> but okay .. I hope to help you soon on a few OSX issues :) 20:19:41 <TrueBrain> if I ever get this darn vbox to work, or get my video-driver to work 20:19:47 <TrueBrain> (as I am NOT going to develop in 1024x768 20:20:47 <Rubidium> lemoto deskutopu? 20:20:59 <Rubidium> or whatever OSX uses for that 20:21:08 <TrueBrain> que? 20:21:29 <TrueBrain> remote desktop? 20:21:37 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:38 <TrueBrain> not possible to your local machine :p :p 20:21:43 <Rubidium> :O he can 'understand' Japanese :) 20:21:55 <planetmaker> :-) 20:21:58 <TrueBrain> I can try to boot 2 OSes next to eachother, but I doubt he accepts that :p 20:22:08 <Rubidium> what? Parallels doesn't work? 20:22:18 <TrueBrain> not without VT-X :p 20:22:38 <planetmaker> parallels does work... in some environments :-) 20:22:39 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46447.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:14 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 20:32:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:33:20 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA504.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:16 <planetmaker> ok. In principle it's no problem to get the gamelog there, too. That works 20:34:24 <planetmaker> Now I just need to get it written. 20:36:32 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeja39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 20:38:36 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:57 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:44:11 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 20:48:38 <TrueBrain> glx: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=172474 <- might work for you? 20:51:31 <glx> hmm but he uses a real HD it seems 20:51:44 <TrueBrain> that would suck 20:51:52 *** Farden123 [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:15 <glx> though I'm not registered so I can't download the pdf 20:53:15 <glx> ha it's in the zip too 20:57:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:35 <glx> TrueBrain: won't work for me 21:02:42 <glx> "as the CPU MUST also support VT-x extensions, and have a system BIOS that enables VT-x" 21:02:46 <TrueBrain> too bad 21:02:51 <TrueBrain> was worth a shot .. won't work here either 21:02:54 <TrueBrain> oh well 21:02:56 <TrueBrain> time to find my bed :) 21:02:58 <TrueBrain> night all! 21:03:05 <Noldo> what are you trying to do? 21:03:23 <TrueBrain> getting OSX back under the 'supported' section 21:03:25 <Nite_Owl> later TrueBrain 21:03:45 <TrueBrain> although planetmaker is doing an good job so far :) 21:03:51 <Noldo> and you need virtualized OSX to do it? 21:03:59 <TrueBrain> or you want to buy us the hardware? 21:04:08 <glx> but not having VT-x (or AMD-V) is a problem for virtual machines only it seems 21:04:18 <planetmaker> g'night TrueBrain 21:04:20 <TrueBrain> glx: native you don't need VT-x for sure 21:04:26 <TrueBrain> I can run OSX without VT-x :) 21:04:34 <TrueBrain> you need voodoo-kernel if you have AMD 21:04:40 <TrueBrain> (I can run vanilla kernels) 21:04:44 <glx> I can boot the installer on my machine :) 21:04:53 <nicfer> I think that the local authority should be reworked 21:04:56 <TrueBrain> and most of those installers have enough AMD hacks :) 21:05:04 <glx> but it just fails in vmware 21:05:20 <TrueBrain> glx: but without virtualization it is a bitch to boot to OSX and work there 21:05:25 <TrueBrain> out of your comfort-zone ;) 21:05:39 <glx> well 10.4.8 boots fine 21:05:45 <glx> it's just slow 21:06:04 <glx> but that's because missing vmware vesa 2 drivers for tiger 21:06:07 <TrueBrain> you need speed to .. 45min per compile it not anywhere near a working env :) 21:06:22 <TrueBrain> but okay, classes in the morning, good night :) 21:06:30 <Xaroth> nn TrueBrain 21:06:32 <glx> same happens in linux or windows VM without vmware tools installed 21:06:50 <glx> as soon they are installed speed increase 21:07:04 <nicfer> instead of disallowing you to build stations, how about making everything you build near there more expensive? 21:07:20 <glx> but vmware tools for OSX requires at least leopard 21:07:30 <nicfer> lesser income for cargo moved from/to there? 21:07:53 <Nite_Owl> two words: magic bulldozer 21:07:54 <Rubidium> hmm... 21:08:00 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:07 <Rubidium> 256 MB of memory for your graphical card, is that a lot? 21:08:08 <nicfer> expensiver running costs 21:08:13 <Rubidium> for a dedicated server? 21:08:19 <nicfer> two words: no cheating 21:08:33 <Rubidium> (which has no video output) 21:08:36 <Xaroth> standard-ish nowadays with the new line graphic chips 21:08:51 <Nite_Owl> two more words: no fun 21:10:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@89.15.245.29] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:52 <blathijs> Rubidium: Neh, it just allows you to run a second OS entirely in the graphics card... 21:12:26 <nicfer> well, actually its no fun when the LA rejects you to build stations but still lets you fullfill everything around the city with land-owning signs or railtracks? 21:12:53 <nicfer> or even worse, landfill everything you can 21:12:58 <Nite_Owl> two further words: plant trees 21:13:42 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:15:45 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:48 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 21:20:14 <planetmaker> http://pastebin.ca/1549651 <-- This, of course, is just a quick hack, though it works with crash.log 21:20:29 <planetmaker> Windows, though, uses a range of custom, more high-level commands. 21:20:48 <planetmaker> Would it be wrong to resort to this low-level c syntax for any OS for the crash.log? 21:40:28 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 21:40:32 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho :) 21:53:25 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:12 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:22 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 22:07:25 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 22:13:53 <PeterT> does openttd have support for windows 7? 22:14:37 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-101-210.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:15:40 <Eddi|zuHause> did you try? 22:15:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17334 /trunk/src/airport_movement.h: -Fix: don't turn north just before approaching the landing strip of the small airport 22:17:24 <PeterT> Eddi|zuHause, no 22:17:37 <PeterT> windows 7 isnt released yet, silly 22:17:44 <PeterT> just betas 22:18:27 <Yexo> PeterT: so how should we know whether it works? 22:18:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17335 /trunk/src/yapf/yapf_road.cpp: -Fix (r17333): don't return a pointer as boolean 22:18:37 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:50 <PeterT> someone with time and a computer could dl win7 22:19:23 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 22:19:58 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:22:11 <TinoDidriksen> Win7 is in RC, freely available though they now removed the downloads. I have it installed on my laptop. 22:22:28 <PeterT> did you test openttd with it? 22:22:36 <TinoDidriksen> No, but can do... 22:22:47 <PeterT> would you? 22:22:55 <SmatZ> hmm 22:22:58 <SmatZ> OSX 10.6 22:23:00 <SmatZ> Win7 22:23:00 <PeterT> and make sure its a latest trunk 22:23:02 <TinoDidriksen> Sure, just a few minutes. 22:23:11 <SmatZ> a lot of "it doesn't work!" bugreports are coming :-/ 22:23:19 <PeterT> well, i meant, whenever you have time 22:23:29 <PeterT> but SmatZ!! it doesnt work! 22:23:39 <SmatZ> booh :( 22:24:41 <PeterT> developers, how often do you look at bugs.openttd.org and openttd problems forum? 22:24:54 <Yexo> very often 22:25:49 <Eddi|zuHause> the more often people ask, the less often they look 22:25:54 <SmatZ> hehe 22:26:04 <PeterT> what i though 22:26:04 <SmatZ> bugs should go to bugs.openttd.org anyway 22:26:18 <PeterT> actual problems to openttd problems? 22:27:19 <PeterT> recently, hyronumos (if thats how you spell it) locked a topic in openttd graphics, how did he do this without being an openttd developer? 22:27:30 <PeterT> he is a moderator 22:27:43 <PeterT> but it said moderators for openttd are the developers 22:27:46 <Yexo> because he is a global forum moderator 22:28:10 <Yexo> and not all developers are moderators 22:28:23 <PeterT> oh i understand 22:28:26 <PeterT> they aren't? 22:28:28 <PeterT> why? 22:28:33 <Yexo> only those with an orange name 22:28:35 <PeterT> i know rubi_dium 22:28:41 <PeterT> you? 22:28:44 <Yexo> http://www.tt-forums.net/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=2521 <- see there 22:28:56 <TinoDidriksen> Downloaded r17332, installed, loaded a game...seems to work fine in Win7 RC 64bit. 22:29:18 <PeterT> sweet 22:29:26 <PeterT> is that the latest trunk? 22:29:30 <PeterT> or close? 22:29:39 <TinoDidriksen> Was the latest nightly on the site... 22:29:43 <PeterT> good 22:29:51 <Yexo> latest trunk is r17335 (as of 11 minutes ago) 22:30:14 <TinoDidriksen> So reasonably up to date... 22:30:54 <PeterT> i recently understood what "r" was 22:31:09 <PeterT> not the number of days since the initial release 22:31:20 <PeterT> it was the amount of changes done in a day 22:31:29 <TinoDidriksen> Revision, yes. 22:31:29 <PeterT> i was wondering because you skipped numbers 22:32:12 <KenjiE20> lol, I'd love to see 17000 changes per day 22:32:21 <PeterT> so, why is only bjarni, truebrai_n, matthijs, celestar_, petern_, and rubidi_um moderators 22:33:44 <Xaroth> because they are also developers? 22:34:05 <PeterT> so why not yexo? 22:34:09 <PeterT> (and company0 22:34:25 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:34:47 <Yexo> PeterT: because they are also developers, and because orudge doesn't want to have too much moderators (a very valid point if you ask me) 22:35:03 <Rubidium> ofcourse it works in win7; it's not like apple where they remove a load of API each release and don't maintain APIs through more than 2 releases 22:35:53 <PeterT> Yexo: then you have the same priviledges as the troll who spams the forums, what good is that? 22:35:57 <TinoDidriksen> Actually, Win7 breaks quite a lot according to the interwebs...hence why they felt a need for XP Mode. 22:36:21 <Yexo> PeterT: and the same privileges as you have, I don't see a problem? 22:36:34 <Yexo> if I see spam / unwanted post I use the report function like every member can 22:36:47 <PeterT> and moderators actually look at it? 22:36:55 <Yexo> I suppose so 22:37:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:19 <Yexo> although I never get response the spam has always been removed 22:37:31 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:37:39 <Yexo> besides, it's not like the openttd forum needs more moderators 22:38:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17336 /trunk/ (31 files in 10 dirs): -Codechange: move some os specific files into src/os/ 22:39:12 <PeterT> why does it do that? 22:39:30 <Yexo> what did what? 22:39:31 <TinoDidriksen> It informs of new revision commits. 22:39:49 <PeterT> why? 22:40:02 <TinoDidriksen> Very useful so people know to svn up their own working copies. 22:40:19 <Yexo> and it's easy to follow what is changing 22:40:30 <PeterT> isnt there an ottd channel devoted to that? 22:40:39 <Yexo> yes, #openttd.notice 22:40:41 <PeterT> openttd.notice 22:41:02 <PeterT> so basically, you download the source, change it however, then upload it again 22:41:13 <TinoDidriksen> Not everyone can commit... 22:41:30 <Yexo> PeterT: that's basically the process, but not everyone can upload their code 22:41:40 <PeterT> just developers/ 22:41:41 <Yexo> and we use svn to track all changes 22:42:57 <PeterT> what does it take for a patch to get into trunk? 22:43:10 <TinoDidriksen> That it works and is approved by the developers. 22:43:26 <Yexo> the patch having a clear goal (ie bug fix / 1 feature), and what TinoDidriksen said 22:43:54 <PeterT> so why isnt amazing patches like server list filtering included? 22:44:06 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:44:13 <Yexo> because they are not approved yet by a developer ;) 22:44:27 <PeterT> do you approve? 22:44:35 <PeterT> i think its handy, dont you? 22:44:43 <TinoDidriksen> It could be they disrupt too much of the code base to make their thing work... 22:44:45 <Yexo> no idea, haven't looked at that patch recently 22:45:05 <Yexo> PeterT: "approve" != the idea is nice 22:45:23 <PeterT> TinoDidriksen, it works on 0.7.2? 22:45:30 <Yexo> it also means checking the code, seeing of it complies to coding style and if there are no obvious bugs 22:45:52 <Terkhen> I remember that one of the devs posted some issues with that patch, issues that weren't solved 22:45:54 <PeterT> is cargodest coming soon? 22:46:04 <Yexo> cargodest is very outdated by now 22:46:11 <Yexo> so not soon 22:46:11 <Xaroth> I doubt cargod*st is going in trunk any time soon 22:46:43 <PeterT> cargodist, cargodest, i dont care which, just want one of them 22:46:52 <PeterT> *would like ;) 22:46:55 <Xaroth> compile it yourself :) 22:47:18 <PeterT> i cant compile cargodist and IS 22:47:27 *** AC6000__ [~AC6000@72.186.103.51] has joined #openttd 22:47:34 <Xaroth> IS should have precompiled binaries anyhow 22:47:36 <PeterT> without compile fails, then crashes 22:47:42 *** AC6000__ is now known as AC6000 22:47:45 <PeterT> Xaroth, you dont get it, do you? 22:47:45 <Yexo> cargodist still crashes regurarly (according to reports in it's forum thread) 22:47:46 <Rubidium> talking about copy&paste? 22:47:55 <PeterT> cargodist and IS 22:47:56 <Rubidium> or is my guess wrong? 22:47:59 <Xaroth> ah 22:48:09 <PeterT> copy and paste should NEVER be in trunk!!! 22:48:11 <Terkhen> server list filtering, cargodist and IS 22:48:13 <PeterT> ever!!! 22:48:41 * Rubidium likes to guess what the topic is when lots of lines aren't displayed 22:48:46 <Xaroth> so basically you want cargodist in trunk, so you can have somebody else make sure cargodist + IS works? 22:48:55 <KenjiE20> Rubidium: lol 22:49:02 <PeterT> close 22:49:16 <Terkhen> okay, next time I'll only answer with yes or no :P 22:49:20 <PeterT> cargod*st in trunk, then i can patch with IS2.0-b3 22:49:27 <PeterT> and create the ultimate patchpack 22:49:27 <Xaroth> as i said 22:49:41 <Xaroth> you want cargod*st in trunk, so you can have somebody else make sure cargod*st + IS works.. 22:49:54 <Xaroth> since else they wouldn't release a patch... 22:49:59 <Xaroth> (i hope o_O ) 22:50:08 <PeterT> grr, nevermind 22:50:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 22:50:57 <Yexo> PeterT: I can't even find a server list filtering patch (although I know it exists) 22:51:09 <Rubidium> Yexo: page #3 22:51:28 <Yexo> ah :) 22:51:31 <PeterT> actually, its number 2 22:51:34 <PeterT> in search 22:51:43 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=43160 22:52:19 <fjb> If all the patches beside one are in trunk that one patch will really be a big patch pack. 22:53:40 <Rubidium> really? It'd probably be ln's "don't allow openttd to be started as root"-patch 22:54:15 <Rubidium> which basically adds like 1 line 22:54:20 * AC6000 wonders if making ,000,000 a year is too much.... 22:54:31 <Xaroth> 30 million? 22:54:35 <PeterT> sheesh, i just marked openttd forums as read, and within 2 minutes there are already 4 posts 22:54:39 <Rubidium> depends on the kind of $ 22:54:55 <AC6000> 30 million USD :P 22:55:00 <Xaroth> I usually don't stop till i reach the 100m/year 22:55:13 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B46447.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:55:40 <AC6000> another 400 million and i'll have 1 billion 22:55:43 <AC6000> :P 22:56:03 <Rubidium> if it's real USD it's quite a lot (for a single person), if it's in-game then probably not 22:56:30 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:37 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 22:56:38 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 22:56:44 <AC6000> trust me, id blow it all in a month :P 22:57:29 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:32 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:57:47 <Rubidium> don't think I would; blowing it in 1 month and then 11 months getting (next to) nothing vs getting 2.5 million a month 22:58:24 <AC6000> lol 22:58:36 <TinoDidriksen> I wouldn't know what to spend it all on in a single month... 22:58:58 <Xaroth> loooots of trains 22:59:27 *** reldred [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 22:59:34 * AC6000 is using 8 planes, 10 trains and 21 buses 22:59:43 <PeterT> aha! 8 planes 22:59:50 <AC6000> the buses are a transfer service :P 23:01:27 <AC6000> 10 million for train income 23:01:36 <AC6000> double that for planes 23:01:40 <PeterT> exatcly 23:02:21 <AC6000> 27,777,860 last year 23:02:41 <PeterT> congratulations, stop bragging 23:02:41 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:46 <AC6000> \<_< 23:02:50 <Xaroth> I hardly call that bragging. 23:02:51 <PeterT> :P 23:03:20 <AC6000> did i forget to mention i'm only using 2 airports? ^^ 23:04:37 <Xaroth> game where i tried out various AI.. last year's income, 240,456,032 euro 23:04:50 <AC6000> O_o 23:04:52 <Xaroth> 1036 trains, 1319 rv, 523 airplanes 23:05:32 *** reldred [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has left #openttd [] 23:05:45 <Xaroth> save game was a bit awkward tho, 7 AI's all steamrolling.. game is unplayable :P 23:06:03 <AC6000> xD 23:06:22 <AC6000> it would have crapped itself trying to load it :P 23:07:39 <Terkhen> good night! 23:08:18 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@102.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:08:40 <AC6000> http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/323b7b315ee141f7c0c239e9a3e95f03.png my largest station (still a WIP) 23:20:42 *** AC6000 [~AC6000@72.186.103.51] has left #openttd [] 23:22:40 <Eddi|zuHause> ... there is nothing to see here, move along ... 23:23:37 <fjb> Boring station. 23:25:55 <SmatZ> poor AC6k :-p 23:28:35 <KingJ> Sorry, i've got to agree, that is pretty boring 23:29:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B877.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:24 <Coco-Banana-Man> Such a big station for 10 trains..? :O 23:40:33 <SmatZ> each train has its own platform ;) 23:41:05 <PeterT> AC6000, are you still running a server 23:41:25 <KingJ> [00:20] * AC6000 (~AC6000@72.186.103.51) has left #openttd 23:41:51 <PeterT> oh 23:42:00 <Coco-Banana-Man> well, some trains even more than one xD 23:42:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17337 /trunk/src/airport_movement.h: -Fix: some more strange airport holding bay positions 23:43:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: is really onto these darn airports :p 23:43:29 <Eddi|zuHause> s/:// 23:43:53 <Yexo> I have a (very basic, with lots of bugs) newgrf airport working 23:44:05 <Yexo> where the statemachine is completely done by newgrf callbacks 23:44:15 <Eddi|zuHause> "f?r die einen ist es ein Regexp, f?r die anderen der l?ngste Smilie der Welt" 23:45:28 <Eddi|zuHause> (derivate of a commercial spot) 23:48:18 <fjb> Will the grf have to supply complete airports or do you parts from which you build your own layout like train stations? 23:48:51 <Yexo> complete airports 23:49:14 <Yexo> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Newgrf_Airports_Documentation <- I am (very loosely) following that specification 23:50:15 <SmatZ> @seen celestar 23:50:15 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: celestar was last seen in #openttd 18 weeks, 5 days, 15 hours, 51 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Celestar> morning 23:50:25 <PeterT> damn 23:50:27 <PeterT> thats a while ago 23:50:37 <PeterT> @seen PeterT 23:50:37 <DorpsGek> PeterT: PeterT was last seen in #openttd 9 seconds ago: <PeterT> thats a while ago 23:51:00 <SmatZ> @seen tron 23:51:00 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: tron was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 29 weeks, 0 days, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Tron> gcc 2.95 is plain obsolete (even has several bugs in its C++ part). further at the very least the justifications given are extremely oversimplified. 23:51:17 <SmatZ> @seen vurlix 23:51:17 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: I have not seen vurlix. 23:51:21 <SmatZ> @seen ludde 23:51:21 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: ludde was last seen in #openttd 46 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 6 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <ludde> ;) 23:51:29 <SmatZ> :) 23:51:39 <PeterT> ludde! 23:51:42 <PeterT> the creator! 23:51:48 <SmatZ> !!! 23:51:56 <PeterT> if we didnt have ludde, we wouldnt have utorrent 23:52:06 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 23:57:12 <Yexo> good night