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00:00:17 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:00:27 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 00:04:00 *** dasy2k1 [~quassel@cpc4-with1-0-0-cust90.bagu.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:51 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:09:08 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 00:11:20 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:15:22 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-82-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:16:25 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.60.26] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 00:22:02 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-146-139.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:39:42 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:24 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has quit [Quit: HAMMERTIME] 00:52:46 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:57 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:53:13 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:12:48 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:14:08 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF80C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:16:30 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 01:19:34 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:34 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 01:24:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:32:11 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1BD97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:34:33 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485B78A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:39:15 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1BD97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E6D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:41:28 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BDDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:33 <PeterT> hmm quiet 01:50:24 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - but then suddenly - by one false move it's blown away] 01:54:58 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 02:58:30 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-82-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09:34 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:16 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:10aa:733e:3832:ee8d] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:13:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:16:03 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.46] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:39:29 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:39:44 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:56 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 03:43:33 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:56:21 <DaleStan> <Yexo> airports can have a single sprite (preview in gui). To support this properly in nforenum I need a patch: <-- I think it might be more logical to do 0..4 vs. everything-else. 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They would also not properly mark the window dirty. 08:04:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17441 /trunk/src/waypoint_gui.cpp: -Fix (r16900): close the vehicle list of the vehicle type that visits the waypoint instead of for all vehicle types 08:05:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17442 /trunk/src/depot.cpp: -Fix [FS#3180]: destruction of depots didn't remove any vehicle lists related to the depot, causing windows pointing to deleted depots and (thus) crashes 08:35:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17443 /trunk/src/ (rail_cmd.cpp road_cmd.cpp): -Fix (r17442): clear the depot tile after removing the depot in all cases instead of only for ships; makes removing road/rail depots not crash :) 08:37:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17444 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#3173]: when building roads isn't allowed for town, then don't build the initial piece either 08:43:26 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 08:52:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17445 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Fix (r17318): force resort after changing sort type in the industry list window 08:56:30 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@227.Red-88-3-22.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 08:57:08 <Terkhen> good morning 08:59:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17446 /trunk/src/ (53 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: rename BUILD with BUY for strings that are about building (in the future buying) vehicles. 09:00:47 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 09:00:56 <Eddi|zuHause> oooh... someone talking about future ;= 09:01:56 <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2997 <-- welcome to that FS task :-P 09:06:23 <Rubidium> well, that patch horribly fails to apply :) 09:06:55 <planetmaker> ;-) 09:07:03 <planetmaker> It's horribly old, I guess 09:07:11 <planetmaker> but it can be closed now, I'd bet 09:07:50 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:07:53 <Rubidium> I bet it can't 09:08:03 <planetmaker> :-D 09:08:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17447 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: rename a local variable so it doesn't collide with the name of a global function 09:08:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought coding style should prevent such things 09:09:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17448 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Change [FS#2997]: buy vehicles instead of building them; makes it consistent with selling. Based on a patch by planetmaker 09:09:24 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 09:09:33 <planetmaker> He. I see the difference :-) 09:10:06 <Zuu> The OpenTTD coding style is not that very extreeme with prefixes etc. to distungish members from local valiables etc. as far as I remember. 09:10:09 <Eddi|zuHause> now update all translations as well ;) 09:11:17 <Eddi|zuHause> Zuu: yes, but functions=starts with capital letter, variable=starts with lower case letter i thought 09:11:50 <Zuu> hmm, though it was two variables, but yea now when I read it better I see it was function vs variable. 09:12:22 <Eddi|zuHause> and global variables must start with a _ 09:12:31 <Rubidium> it doesn't collide yet, but it would with a future patch 09:12:49 <Eddi|zuHause> again with the future.. 09:13:05 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium the oracle. 09:24:11 <Zuu> A future patch may also remove the posibilities of collisions by reducing the line count to zero. :-p 09:25:19 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:28:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:43:18 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:43:59 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 09:53:44 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@62.Red-83-59-100.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 09:56:10 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:17 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@227.Red-88-3-22.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:57:00 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 09:59:48 *** vd- [~donald@p4FD067F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:49 *** vd [~donald@p4FD05C91.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:00:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17449 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix (r17436): MSVC compile warning about comparing signed and unsigned values 10:03:41 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA786.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:07:05 <SmatZ> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/bread/ I wouldn't believe mouldy bread can be so colourful 10:08:08 <Noldo> oh you too have gotten into the fine art of mold growing 10:08:26 <Zuu> Thanksfully I have not brough my lunch yet.. :-) 10:09:04 <Noldo> and specimen is even nicely contained in a plastic bag, not your first project? 10:09:54 <SmatZ> :-) 10:09:58 <SmatZ> hehe 10:13:08 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:38 *** vd- [~donald@p4FD067F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:15:16 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 10:16:33 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@179.Red-83-59-118.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 10:22:24 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@62.Red-83-59-100.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:15 <Zuu> I had some fruit contained in a bag for 6 weeks, it was even a bit soil at the bottom of the bag when I opened it. :-) 10:23:18 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 10:28:03 <SmatZ> hehe 10:28:05 <Vikthor> Are you aware that production of biological weapons is internationally banned ? :p 10:28:10 <SmatZ> :_) 10:29:01 <Rubidium> yes, I'm aware that I'm internationally banned 10:29:05 <Zuu> To make it clear for whoever scanns this channel, it was not by any evil purpose. I was just lazy. :-p 10:29:11 <SmatZ> :-P 10:29:53 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 10:30:07 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:42 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:33:35 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:34:30 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 10:34:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Vikthor: the amount of chemicals produced in germany can easily be used for warfare, even though they are "civilian" products 10:35:07 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. pesticides and insecticides 10:47:43 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-223.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:50:51 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.60.225] has joined #openttd 10:52:13 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:52:57 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:39 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:19 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 11:07:25 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 11:08:16 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/foundation.png (same spec as industry tile / industry): Is it possible to display a halftile foundation for the circled sprite or do I have to include foundations in the grf for that? 11:08:37 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-0-119-221.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:06 <Rubidium> half tile wouldn't do the trick 11:09:22 <Rubidium> the runway is 'shown' over way more than half the tile 11:10:04 <Rubidium> and half tile slopes would imply that you can build rail on the lower part 11:10:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:10:26 <Yexo> Rubidium: not really, it's the circled tile, that one has only a tin part runway 11:10:45 <Yexo> the tile where the north corner is lowered 11:11:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17450 /trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: refactor the windows crash logger so parts of it can be reused by other crash logger implementations 11:11:31 <Yexo> <@Rubidium> and half tile slopes would imply that you can build rail on the lower part <- that is a drawback, but still it looks better then a complete foundation 11:11:32 <Rubidium> hmm, the sprites 'bleed' into the next tile or so? 11:11:58 <Yexo> no, that tile has no ground sprite but only a building sprite with a z-offset of 8 pixels 11:12:53 <Yexo> and normal ground sprites are drawn below every tile, so you can have easily have snow/desert by leaving part of the sprite blank 11:14:53 <Rubidium> it'd probably be possible, but I reckon the NewGRF needs to give some information about that; it can't figure out on its own whether it's a half or full tile 11:15:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-81-213-133.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:16:38 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/foundation2.png this is with full foundations (other rotation, same idea) 11:18:14 <SmatZ> half foundation would be nice, and even nicer if the second half could be used for rail ;) but that's sure too much 11:19:08 <Rubidium> too much? That's probably *way* too much 11:19:21 <SmatZ> hehe 11:19:34 * Rubidium points at signals and station indices 11:20:03 <SmatZ> yeah, I just wanted to have some uneducated idea :-p 11:20:57 <Yexo> there are still 8 bits free, so in theory it's possible :) 11:21:57 <SmatZ> no place to store owner :( 11:22:04 <SmatZ> so it would be need to be the same 11:22:29 <Yexo> that restriction is already in place for 2 diagonal rails on the same tile 11:23:25 <Rubidium> anyhow, railtype and signals ought to be in the same place or stuff gets unnecessarily slowed down 11:23:26 <SmatZ> even railtype has to be the same 11:23:43 <SmatZ> yeah, sure it wasn't practical idea 11:24:38 <SmatZ> 1 bit "track is here", 4 bits track type, 1 bit signal is/isn't, 1 bit signal variant... 3 bits signal type, 1 bit signal status, 1 bit track reservation... 11:24:40 <SmatZ> or so 11:24:50 <SmatZ> @calc 1 + 4 + 1 + 1 + 3 + 1 + 1 11:24:50 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 12 11:24:55 <SmatZ> at least :) 11:25:35 <Yexo> so even in theory not possible 11:25:51 <SmatZ> actually, more likely 13 11:25:55 <SmatZ> yeah :( 11:27:43 <Eddi|zuHause> how far are we away from "airport bridges"? 11:27:50 <Noldo> wwhat? 11:27:56 <Eddi|zuHause> (like in Leipzig/Halle) 11:28:26 <Yexo> airport over road? 11:28:31 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 11:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> or rail 11:28:48 <Yexo> that will only be possible with tunnels 11:29:22 <SmatZ> interesting idea 11:30:24 <KenjiE20> hah Heathrow would be the interesting one :P 11:30:28 <Yexo> in theory it's possible with tunnels (so real bridges), but that would mean modifing the bridge code because airport tiles could be end tiles 11:30:34 <Hexan> http://flightsimx.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ga2leipzigx_3.jpg 11:31:09 <Yexo> KenjiE20: give me a tile layout and movement scheme and maybe I'll code it :) 11:31:24 <Yexo> that holds for other interesting airports too :) 11:31:27 <KenjiE20> heh 11:31:53 <KenjiE20> with a central hole for road traffic? 11:32:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, the bridge heads should be airport tiles 11:32:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Hexan: i've had that situation for real ;) 11:33:20 <Hexan> looks nice :) 11:42:16 *** dasy2k1 [~quassel@cpc4-with1-0-0-cust90.bagu.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:43:49 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@179.Red-83-59-118.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: ...] 11:44:05 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-223.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 11:45:47 <Ammler> Yexo: do you care about compile warnings for airport branch? 11:46:12 <Yexo> Ammler: yes, but not about all those missing 0's in some header file (at least not currently) 11:46:44 <Ammler> /home/marcel/bin/ottd/airports.hg/src/airport_movement.h:33: warning: missing initializer for member 'AirportMovingData::z' <-- those? 11:46:52 <Yexo> yes 11:47:21 <Yexo> (unless you want to provide a patch for that, then I'm interested :P) 11:47:32 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 11:47:45 <Ammler> /home/marcel/bin/ottd/airports.hg/src/newgrf_airport.cpp: In function 'uint32 AirportTileGetVariable(const ResolverObject*, byte, byte, bool*)': 11:50:06 <Yexo> Ammler: yes? what was the actual warning? 11:53:02 <Ammler> http://pastebin.ca/1557059 <-- there is more 11:53:52 <Ammler> (row 533) 11:54:55 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d19f:90b2:eb7e:461c] has joined #openttd 11:54:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:56:17 <Yexo> Ammler: I forgot to push some changesets, so that line number is way off 11:56:38 <Ammler> ok :-) 11:59:07 <dasy2k1> anyone want a multiplayer where you cant get millions immidiatly by using aircraft? 12:00:08 <dihedral> dasy2k1, most people here dont play that much 12:00:15 <Zuu> dasy2k1: That is easy, just set maximum number of aircrafts to zero. 12:00:29 <dihedral> and most people here would start their own server (and are capable of that) if they wanted something new 12:00:41 <dihedral> and if you want a server, just start one, but dont ask people here to join it! 12:00:42 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 12:00:48 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1027.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Icebears are cute. 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And a few back slashes for a good forward defence. 12:18:47 <Yexo> bah, just looking at the wrong file 12:18:51 <Ammler> he, it is funny, sometimes, the plan go nicely to the middle of the runaway. 12:19:19 <Ammler> sometimes, they accelerate way too far left of it and correct right before takeoff 12:19:29 <Ammler> plane* 12:19:35 <Ammler> s 12:20:01 * planetmaker guesses that Ammler gets paid by the number of IRC lines ;-) 12:20:10 <planetmaker> statistics might even support that view :-P 12:20:26 * planetmaker goes into hiding again. 12:20:36 <Ammler> yeah, that is why I produce my spelling errors, I could write right right away :-P 12:21:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 12:21:31 <Rubidium> no gram are miss steaks? 12:21:54 <planetmaker> lol :-P 12:22:05 <planetmaker> sounds like nice ones ;-) 12:23:37 <Yexo> Ammler: grf updated 12:25:39 <Ammler> hmm, a little glitch 12:25:49 <Ammler> nothing to do with airports :-) 12:26:17 <Ammler> if you click on a station, then you add a grf, the list is updated, but you aren't able to click them. 12:27:53 <Zuu> Yexo: Seams you have got cought at the forums now. You should have hidden in #openttd.noai where all secrent development seams to take place. ;-) 12:29:28 <Yexo> the reason I haven't posted at the forums yet is not to keep it secret, but to avoid stupid questions from users who have no idea what they are talking about 12:29:48 <Sacro> yet you post it here 12:29:52 <Sacro> here there's me :p 12:30:07 <planetmaker> Sacro, there's stupid and there's stupid ;-) 12:30:15 <planetmaker> and then there's ignorant. 12:30:29 <Sacro> and then there's me 12:30:33 <planetmaker> :-P 12:30:37 <Zuu> And then there is forumers 12:30:41 <Sacro> and Bjarni 12:30:44 <Sacro> hang on... 12:30:52 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 12:30:52 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 6 weeks, 6 days, 12 hours, 41 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Bjarni> as long as it doesn't happen every 5th minute 12:30:54 <Sacro> :( 12:31:10 <planetmaker> long long time ago :-S 12:31:22 <Sacro> in a galaxy far far away 12:32:31 <dihedral> that sounds like Bjarni's home :-D 12:33:07 <Sacro> Perhaps 12:37:48 <Ammler> yexo, grf seems perfect now. 12:38:04 <Ammler> and not able to assert it again. 12:38:10 <Yexo> thanks Ammler :) 12:38:23 <Yexo> and I still haveno idea how that assert can be triggered 12:38:50 <Ammler> currently, foundations are very glitchy 12:39:22 <Ammler> and I need flat map for the whole airport, also if the "other half" isn't built. 12:39:23 <Yexo> I think maybe the ground tiles should be 1 pixels bigger 12:39:42 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:39:55 <Yexo> <Ammler> and I need flat map for the whole airport, also if the "other half" isn't built. <- I haven't implemented the slope callback yet 12:40:18 <Yexo> on snow there are some very visible lines between the tiles 12:40:45 <Ammler> Yexo: oh, this is just nfo? 12:41:04 <planetmaker> no. 12:41:21 <planetmaker> I guess pika's sprites, OpenGFX sprites and modifications of those. 12:41:23 <Yexo> Ammler: partly, I have to implement support for that callback first in openttd 12:41:33 <Yexo> planetmaker: no, skidd13's sprites 12:41:38 <planetmaker> :-) 12:41:49 <planetmaker> ok 12:42:08 <Rubidium> (i.e. the ones richk also used) 12:42:35 *** DJGummikuh [~joey@ip3057.saw.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #openttd 12:42:36 <DJGummikuh> hey 12:42:50 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42:53 <Ammler> hmm 12:42:56 <DJGummikuh> I just found the "content" command in my openttd 0.7.2 server 12:42:56 <planetmaker> they're not TTD sprites, but owned by skidd13? That's good :-) 12:43:14 <Ammler> I do hide (transparent) airport hangar with industries, not stations? 12:43:15 <DJGummikuh> now I downloaded "The World" height map with content select 266 ; content download 12:43:27 <DJGummikuh> now how the heck do I use that heightmap and where has it been downloaded to? 12:43:32 <Yexo> Ammler: yes, that's a bug 12:43:54 <Yexo> I reuse the industry code for drawing, haven't generalised it so it uses the correct bit 12:43:56 <Ammler> oh, again same assert 12:44:04 <Yexo> :( 12:44:10 <Ammler> I guess, it is with bigger planes. 12:44:15 <Ammler> possible? 12:44:34 <Yexo> as far as I know there is no difference between small and big planes 12:44:53 <Yexo> but of course that's possible, which plane did you use? 12:45:25 <Ammler> oh, and thanks for making the grfs top of the list ;-) 12:45:47 <Yexo> I'll change that before making a forum topic, but for now it eases testing 12:46:04 <Ammler> Yate Haugen 12:46:44 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd489.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 12:46:51 <Rubidium> DJGummikuh: you might need to restart OpenTTD before it finds them 12:46:54 <Ammler> it has also the glitch on take off, still. 12:47:05 <DJGummikuh> Rubidium: no I don't even know where to look for it on the system 12:47:15 <Rubidium> read the readme 12:47:33 <DJGummikuh> I'm on the server with a second console and I can't find any file in any writable folder for that user 12:47:45 <Yexo> ~/.openttd/content_download/heightmap/ 12:48:20 <DJGummikuh> ah wait a second 12:48:42 <DJGummikuh> ah lol... my fault :( had a typo in my search string..Wrold >.< 12:48:47 <Yexo> Ammler: what glitch? 12:49:27 <Yexo> ah, I see 12:49:36 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@80.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 12:51:08 <DJGummikuh> haha wiki article about heightmaps has a chapter "Using heightmaps" which does unfortunately not tell me how to actually use it :( 12:51:46 <Ammler> Yexo: just silly, that the glitch is very randomly. 12:51:58 <Yexo> I'm not sure whether it's possible to use a heighmap on a dedicated server 12:52:16 <Yexo> you can always create a scenario out of it on your computer and use that on the server 12:53:18 <DJGummikuh> hm 12:54:25 <Ammler> he 12:54:43 <Ammler> plane have a nice waiting action 12:57:02 <Ammler> waiting code seems not roated right. 12:57:55 <Yexo> it is, it's just ugly (in all directions) 12:58:39 <Ammler> no, in the rotated airport 12:58:55 <Ammler> it does swap all the time, while waiting. 13:00:27 <dihedral> that in fact would make more sense :-) 13:01:55 <dihedral> scn rotation list would be a nice idea :-P 13:02:05 <Eddi|zuHause> the airports are unrealistic anyway. a holding pattern does not really circle around the airport 13:02:49 <Eddi|zuHause> but rather along the extension of the runway 13:02:52 <dihedral> holding patterns mostly circle over towns, in case the planes run out of fuel 13:02:55 <dihedral> :-P 13:04:49 <planetmaker> yeah "Lucky that they didn't have fuel anymore when they crashed. Or it would even have given a big explosion" :-P 13:05:04 <Eddi|zuHause> a plane is approaching the runway, is told to enter a waiting pattern. it then makes a 180? turn (typically right turn, 1 minute), flies straight for one minute, makes another 180? turn (1 minute) and flies straight towards the runway again (1 minute) 13:05:13 <Eddi|zuHause> holding pattern lasts 4 minutes 13:05:43 <planetmaker> you got reference for that, Eddi|zuHause ? 13:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i think celestar said that 13:06:07 <planetmaker> what does he know? ;-) 13:06:49 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, during this holding pattern, the plane does not get anywhere near the airport 13:08:46 <planetmaker> define near in terms of a minimum speed of >100km/h 13:08:58 <Eddi|zuHause> (what would it do there anyway? it would only interfere with starting and landing airplanes) 13:09:32 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-173-176.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:33 <planetmaker> well. There are well-defined routes in the control zones for each air port. 13:10:28 <planetmaker> Also after take-off you'll have to go to the announced exit point and only then call the tower that you're leaving their control zone 13:10:40 <Rubidium> in case of near miss at least some of the paint must've been scraped of at least one of the planes 13:11:05 <Noldo> planetmaker: depends on the clearance you get when taking off 13:11:36 <planetmaker> Noldo, but show me any airport of more than hobby-size where it's different. 13:11:41 <planetmaker> at least in middle Europe 13:12:43 <planetmaker> Otherwise there'd not be much point of a control zone anyway, if the orders are "go as you like" ;-) 13:13:06 <Noldo> it's not 'go as you like' but it can be 'straight to the route' 13:13:09 <planetmaker> Tower needs at least know whom it needs to take care of. 13:13:29 <planetmaker> Noldo, but routes always go via one of the exit points ;-) 13:13:53 <planetmaker> That's part of the planning the pilots need doing prior to flight. And when they query for permission to taxi 13:14:00 <planetmaker> to the runway. 13:14:45 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, a friend of mine lives in Bad Lauchst?dt, which is around 40km away from the airport, and he frequently has planes circling around his house 13:15:10 <Noldo> there are queing points like that quite often 13:15:24 <Noldo> with defined patterns and all 13:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause> and that is pretty much exactly the extension of the runway 13:15:51 <Eddi|zuHause> http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&source=s_d&hl=de&geocode=;FReoDwMd5Ha4ACmFl6yQ_oqmRzGwev3sWWYjEw;&saddr=flughafen+leipzig+halle&daddr=51.3577191,12.0890603+to:bad+lauchst?dt&sll=51.394279,11.866608&sspn=0.094256,0.250969&g=bad+lauchst?dt&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=10&via=1 13:17:14 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEe042.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:39 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@153.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:20:23 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd489.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:57 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@80.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:06 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 13:32:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-113-222.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17454 /trunk/ (Makefile.in Makefile.lang.in Makefile.msvc Makefile.src.in): -Codechange: some alignment in Makefile*.in 13:34:24 *** Entane [Entane@c0F6A47C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:35:48 <Rubidium> poor Makefile.msvc 13:39:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17455 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: use sprite names instead of magic numbers in table/clear_land.h and change some names 13:41:15 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228086195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:42:42 *** Entane [Entane@c0F6A47C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 13:42:47 <SmatZ> oh :( 13:46:53 <dihedral> oh? what oh? 13:47:33 <SmatZ> Makefile.msvc isn't Makefile*.in 13:51:31 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 13:52:13 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:56:59 *** kuer [kuer@stallman.rootnode.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:09 <SmatZ> what happened to the computer 13:57:24 <SmatZ> its LAN speed is ~100kB/s 13:57:32 <SmatZ> happened suddenly... 13:57:40 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 13:57:44 <SmatZ> hello z-MaTRiX 13:57:51 <Eddi|zuHause> broken cable? 13:57:53 <Rubidium> ze rootkit? 13:58:01 <Ammler> :-) 13:58:14 <z-MaTRiX> ;> 13:58:19 <planetmaker> ze trojan sending spam ;-) 13:58:46 <z-MaTRiX> donthave time playing 13:58:47 <planetmaker> I've one trojan here which I could give you, if you need a test target :-P 13:58:49 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: possibly... but nobody could touch that :-/ 13:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause> once upon a time when i had Windows ME, it was so infected that it caused collisions constantly 13:59:16 <SmatZ> hehe 14:01:53 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:04:24 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA786.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17456 /branches/0.7/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 14:09:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 14:09:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: When building roads is not allowed for town, then do not build the initial piece either [FS#3173] (r17444) 14:09:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Destruction of depots did not remove any vehicle lists related to the depot, causing windows pointing to deleted depots and (thus) crashes [FS#3180] (r17442) 14:10:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Economy recession would never end when economy is set to Steady while in recession (r17426) 14:10:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: The index of orders loaded from old savegames was owerwritten with an unitialized value (r17419) 14:10:06 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:43 <fjb> Is it possible to find out if a game is currentliy in the state of economy recession? 14:13:46 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:44 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:44 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 14:17:30 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 14:18:03 <DJGummikuh> is it possible to create a screenshot from a dedicated server's console? 14:18:32 <glx> did you try "screenshot" in the console? 14:20:13 <Rubidium> probably won't with with the null blitter 14:23:14 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:01 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-203.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:25:09 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has joined #openttd 14:26:43 <DJGummikuh> glx: yes 14:26:56 <DJGummikuh> I did "screenshot big" 14:27:22 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 14:32:25 <DJGummikuh> but it immediately comes back and produces no output (and no file) 14:32:33 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:44 <Rubidium> 16:20 <@Rubidium> probably won't with with the null blitter 14:32:56 <DJGummikuh> oh overread that 14:42:24 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 14:42:46 <dihedral> <DJGummikuh> is it possible to create a screenshot from a dedicated server's console? <- i read it as "a screenshot of the console" not "a screenshot of the map" :-P 14:43:06 <dihedral> under windows press "prt sc" :-P 14:43:25 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-203.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! 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At least I do see my IRC window. :-) 16:57:50 <frosch123> you should fix the soldering joints 16:58:46 <Zuu> Of my monitor? 16:59:40 <Zuu> I think my kitchen needs a discharger to discharge people when you leave it. 17:00:12 <Zuu> Or better have the electricity fixed. 17:00:50 <Zuu> (I don't have my computer in the kitchen, but just came from there) 17:01:27 <Hexan> max_no_competitors = 2 <-- what does that setting mean? 17:01:40 <Hexan> max 2 ai players? 17:02:21 <frosch123> no = "number" 17:03:10 <Hexan> and competitors is ai players right? 17:03:46 <frosch123> likely, else it would distinguish clients and companies 17:10:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:30 *** Benny [~chatzilla@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:01 <Benny> Does anyone on here have the 0.1 version of Pikka's "General av8ion"? 17:11:43 <Zuu> Do you need it for a savegame? 17:11:51 <frosch123> it's on bananas 17:12:12 <frosch123> (iirc) 17:12:14 <Zuu> frosch123: Including 0.1? 17:12:32 <frosch123> yes 17:12:36 <frosch123> (iirc) :p 17:12:50 <Zuu> If it is on bananas OpenTTD will be allowed to download it even if it is not the latest in case it is needed to load a savegame. 17:12:54 <Ammler> benny wouldn't ask then ;-) 17:13:06 <Zuu> Or in other words if you have the hash id for it. 17:13:21 <Benny> Bananas version id only the latest. 17:13:24 <frosch123> Benny: load the savegame, go to newgrf window, click online content, download it, reload the savegame 17:13:53 <Benny> No savegame involved here. Just trying to join Tyconeez server. 17:14:07 <frosch123> well, then click the online content in the server lobby 17:14:14 <Benny> Tried. 17:14:29 <Ammler> 0.1 _is_ on 17:14:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has joined #openttd 17:14:49 <Ammler> Benny: which server? 17:14:53 <Benny> Hmm.. May be a weird version that is loaded on the server then. 17:15:02 <Benny> Tyconeez.com Stable 17:15:04 <Zuu> Ammler: Its a 0.7.2 17:16:01 <frosch123> for me it is a valid 0.1, and i have it from bananas 17:17:32 <Zuu> According to http://www.openttd.org/en/server/110 it usses both general av8ion 0.1 and av8 1.5 17:18:06 <Zuu> For me the general av8ion does not show up in the content downloading from the mulptiplayer list. 17:18:26 <Zuu> Only the av8 and av8 extra set. 17:18:33 <Ammler> av8ion is just a addon, with old planes, afaik. 17:18:59 <frosch123> Zuu: maybe it is again some bug with dependencies and masking older version 17:19:22 <Ammler> "General av8ion v0.1" <-- is there 17:19:35 <frosch123> Ammler: maybe only if you already have it 17:19:54 <Ammler> wow 17:20:04 <Ammler> where is the suse packer? 17:20:14 <Ammler> 0.7.2 not available there? 17:20:27 <Ammler> ususally it needs around 2 hours. 17:20:35 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:00 <Benny> Um.. wtf.. I can't download anything from Bananas it seems.. oO 17:21:41 <Ammler> I just updated our server with banans content 17:21:48 <Zuu> I could download some other stuff from bananas that I didn't have for that Tycoonz server 17:21:51 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/content_download/data/ 17:21:52 <frosch123> Benny: for me it works, av8ion 0.1 shows up, even when i remove it 17:22:26 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:23:06 <Benny> Lol. 17:23:15 <Zuu> Hmm, I seams to have general av8ion 0.1 installed already. 17:23:21 <Benny> I restarted OpenTTD and VOILA! It is all here! 17:23:24 <PeterT> hi benny, did you figure out how to get into openttdcoop? 17:23:29 <Benny> Ya 17:23:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17457 /trunk/config.lib: -Codechange: convert icc version to number so it can be compared more easily 17:23:44 <Zuu> It is some other grfs of that server that is not on bananas and not in #/openttdcoop grfpack. 17:23:44 <Benny> Why? 17:23:59 <PeterT> i was wondering why you didnt know !help 17:23:59 <Ammler> zuu, maybe the stations? 17:24:24 <Ammler> PeterT: you talk OT here ;-) 17:24:24 <Benny> Peter: I mixed up "/" and "!" 17:24:25 <Zuu> Yea, the CS stations set and a few other. 17:24:31 <Benny> I have got all of them except the "CZ towns" thingy. 17:25:21 <Ammler> universal fonts sounds like a static grf 17:25:30 <Ammler> dunno if that is needed for openttd, anyway. 17:26:33 <Ammler> it should be possible to skip static grfs <-- Feature Request :-) 17:27:48 <Benny> Found CZ towns now! :D 17:27:53 <Benny> Yaay 17:27:56 <Benny> *happy* 17:28:08 <Ammler> frosch123: the dependencies are just something like a autodownload 17:28:28 <Ammler> you still need to load them to the config, I assume. 17:30:14 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:31:41 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:04 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:38:34 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: IRSSI MAKES NO SENSE AAAAAAAA] 17:39:05 *** Spoons [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 17:39:45 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:15 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:42:09 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:42:34 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17458 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 1 changes by Gavin 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 28 changes by glx 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 16 changes by Roujin, dihedral 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hebrew - 77 changes by dnd_man 17:45:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 3 changes by lorenzodv 17:48:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:05 *** Default_ [~quassel@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:15 *** Default_ [~quassel@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has joined #openttd 17:49:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:16 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e180239202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:54:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has joined #openttd 17:56:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has quit [] 17:56:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has joined #openttd 17:59:15 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:59:42 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228086195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:43 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:04:23 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-0-119-221.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 18:04:47 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-0-119-221.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:50 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest1672 18:07:57 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-26-16-215.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:08:07 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has quit [] 18:08:45 <PeterT> does it classify as a bug when I try to flatten the map via viewpoints, and openttd crashes? :) 18:10:11 <Ammler> nice plane landing: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/screens/yexoair2.mpeg 18:10:25 <blathijs> PeterT: No, that's a feature specially to annoy you 18:10:35 <blathijs> :-p 18:10:41 <PeterT> I thought so! 18:10:47 <PeterT> bugs.openttd.org here I come! 18:10:48 <blathijs> PeterT: You took your time finding it, though 18:10:52 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:11:47 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-26-16-215.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [] 18:12:13 <SmatZ> PeterT: do you have clean OpenTTD? 18:12:22 <PeterT> r17425 18:12:25 <PeterT> yes 18:13:56 <SmatZ> I can't reproduce it 18:13:59 *** Guest1672 [~Chris_Boo@client-86-0-119-221.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:13 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0D249.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:01 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-26-253-221.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:39 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:05 <SmatZ> gcc : #define __GXX_EXPERIMENTAL_CXX0X__ 1 18:21:10 <SmatZ> icc : #define __GXX_EXPERIMENTAL_CPP0X__ 1 18:21:13 <SmatZ> ... 18:21:25 <SmatZ> looks like icc's gcc emulation breaks sometimes 18:22:45 <frosch123> Ammler: http://www2.neuschweiz.ch/ <- where are you from? 18:23:55 <Ammler> frosch123: almost Neuschweiz ;-) 18:24:14 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 18:24:42 <frosch123> ah, so you would try to enter it :p 18:25:21 <Ammler> well, I would very much like to hit the balls of this Affi ;-) 18:26:26 <Ammler> the sad part about it, there are some humans involved. 18:27:22 <Ammler> what would such a man do with a powerful country like german? 18:27:48 <Ammler> y 18:28:16 <frosch123> well, i only know the context that is writting on the page itself 18:28:23 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:40 <Ammler> Sorry, that doesn't belong here anyway. :'-( 18:29:34 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 18:29:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:42 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:46 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe042.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:39 <PeterT> any patchers here? 18:31:49 <PeterT> what do you use to make the bin folder lighter? 18:32:14 <blathijs> White spray paint, usually 18:34:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17459 /trunk/projects/ (4 files): -Change: remove unused defines from MSVC project files 18:35:04 <blathijs> PeterT: I meant to say, lighter in what way? 18:35:05 <PeterT> where can i get the source for r17456 18:35:19 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-26-253-221.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35:34 <blathijs> PeterT: From svn? 18:35:41 <PeterT> oh? 18:35:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17460 /trunk/src/ (station_cmd.cpp unmovable_cmd.cpp): -Feature: allow building rail stations over existing rail without signals but will upgrade normal rail to electrified rail if necessary (based on patch by laurijh) 18:36:07 <PeterT> yes!!! 18:36:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:36:13 <blathijs> PeterT: svn co -r 17456 <svnurl>/trunk 18:36:13 <PeterT> ^ great patch right there ^ 18:36:25 <PeterT> co? 18:36:28 <PeterT> what is "co" for? 18:36:29 <blathijs> checkout 18:37:04 <PeterT> i dont like using msys for that 18:37:10 <PeterT> can i do the same with tortoise svn? 18:37:34 <Terkhen> PeterT: check my answers to your posts, I told you how to make binaries lighter some days ago 18:37:52 <PeterT> yes, you told me to take the .svn folder out, but thats only 34 kb 18:37:53 <blathijs> Yeah sure, but I can't tell you exactly how since I don't use GUI thingies for my SVN :-) 18:38:15 <blathijs> PeterT: You should take all .svn folders out, they're in avery subfolder as well 18:38:19 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 18:38:32 <blathijs> alternatively, if you don't care about versioning, you could use the svn export command 18:38:39 <Rubidium> tralalalal... make bundle.... tralalalalal 18:38:57 <Rubidium> ofcourse for MSVC users that's too hard 18:39:17 *** williham is now known as [wito] 18:39:59 <PeterT> :) 18:42:24 <PeterT> thanks blathijs 18:42:32 <PeterT> i figured it out in tortoise 18:45:36 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:54 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 18:46:00 <Terkhen> yes, make bundle and how to use it on windows was suggested in the same thread 18:48:35 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.68] has joined #openttd 18:50:34 *** dlr365 [~doug@S010600248c02a7d3.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:57:41 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:17 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:12:04 <PeterT> Rubidium: was that the first actual 'feature' added in the 0.7 series since 0.7.0? 19:12:25 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 19:14:29 <Terkhen> PeterT: check the revision log 19:14:42 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 19:15:00 <Xaroth> I think Rubidium has more to do than to check something for you that you can check yourself, PeterT... 19:15:14 <PeterT> i thought he would just know 19:17:26 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B78A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:50 <frosch123> there is even a wiki page about such "user stuff" 19:19:38 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 19:21:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.192.93] has joined #openttd 19:25:16 <PeterT> frosch123: where? 19:25:31 <frosch123> hmm, on the wiki? 19:27:30 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 19:27:52 <Xaroth> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=OpenTTD+revision+log 19:28:20 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:35 <frosch123> or even http://lmgtfy.com/?q=new+ottd+features+since+0.7 19:28:47 <Xaroth> frosch123 :) 19:28:56 <frosch123> though you could of course just enter it into the wiki search 19:29:40 <frosch123> in fact, you can just type the question directly into the searchfield with dozens of typos and it will still find it 19:30:00 <frosch123> not to say, it is quite hard not to find it 19:30:11 <frosch123> :p 19:30:23 <Xaroth> frosch123: as Ammler posted in another chan: http://www.idiotproofwebsite.com/ :) 19:31:17 <frosch123> even more, the topmost hit for the question does not even contain "ottd", but only "openttd" 19:33:15 <Rubidium> why is there a tendency for getting dumber and dumber/more ignorant people in here? We ought to get a communication protocol that is too hard for dumb/ignorant people to join. 19:34:23 <Xaroth> Rubidium: one might think that using an 'old' protocol would deter those people, but alas. 19:34:23 <Prof_Frink> V nterr. 19:36:22 <Rubidium> Prof_Frink: what? 19:37:18 <Prof_Frink> Ehovqvhz: Frr! Vg jbexf! 19:39:28 <Rubidium> ah :) Check... 19:40:26 * Terkhen suggests creating a detailed tutorial about how to get here and stick it in the forums, that way nobody will read it 19:40:50 <Rubidium> Lrf, V unir gb nterr gung hfvat n plcure yvxr ebg urycf 19:48:30 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 19:55:51 *** Benny [~chatzilla@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 19:56:17 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:34 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:59 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 20:01:00 <PeterT> have i reported this correctly? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3182 20:02:01 * SmatZ wonder how can you fail in your mother tongue this way 20:02:24 <SmatZ> you're x your, it's x its 20:02:52 <SmatZ> PeterT: you don't have crash.sav? 20:03:09 <SmatZ> it should be in the same directory as crash.log (afaik) 20:03:33 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:03:55 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:31 <PeterT> coming right up 20:05:14 <PeterT> no crash.sv 20:05:36 <SmatZ> crash.sav 20:05:38 <SmatZ> hmm bad :( 20:05:48 <SmatZ> not even empty crash.sav ? 20:06:17 <PeterT> no, not there 20:07:30 <dihedral> if i were a crash.sav..... where would i hide 20:07:56 <dihedral> people who end sentences with three dots are ... 20:07:58 <Rubidium> where openttd.cfg is ofcourse 20:07:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17461 /trunk/src/misc/blob.hpp: -Document: that a certain compiler warning when compiled without asserts in gcc 4.4+ isn't our fault but GCC's. Includes a reference to the appropriate GCC bug report 20:10:05 <Zuu> Lord Aro is hillarious 20:10:32 <Zuu> "can someone direct me to the site where all the binaries are stored its something like binaries.openttd.org" 20:10:59 <Zuu> OMG you just wrote the address.. 20:11:08 <Terkhen> :D 20:11:12 <KenjiE20> I thought that too 20:11:25 <Terkhen> i was speechless when i read that post 20:11:31 <SmatZ> hehehe 20:11:35 <Zuu> Too bad I responded already.. 20:11:59 <KenjiE20> I went and played some BF2 instead 20:12:10 <Terkhen> and I went back to coding :D 20:12:27 <Zuu> I went to tt-forums beacuse I didn't want to read my email. 20:12:42 <KenjiE20> incidently 1974MB for a patch is a serious PITA 20:12:43 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe042.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:44 <Prof_Frink> dihedral: Ellipseptic? 20:14:44 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 20:15:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17462 /trunk/config.lib: -Cleanup: remove unused variables 20:16:22 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe042.bae.pppool.de] has quit [] 20:17:44 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:19:09 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje209.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 20:30:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r17463 /trunk/src/os/unix/crashlog_unix.cpp: -Change (r17453): Retrigger the abort signal after writing the crashlog, so the next one can catch it again (e.g. to write a core dump). 20:38:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0dbb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:24 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:43:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:42 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:49:57 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:11 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:50:20 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17464 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: use C++0x mode when compiling with gcc >= 4.3 or icc >= 11.0 21:02:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17465 /trunk/src/stdafx.h: -Codechange: use builtin static_assert() for assert_compile() if available 21:03:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17466 /trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp: -Feature: reconnect console command (based on patch of bilbo) 21:03:58 <PeterT> yay1 21:04:10 <PeterT> thanks rubidium, you're on a roll today :) 21:07:40 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:09:56 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 21:13:30 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23:44 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:23:44 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:47 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e180239202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:23:58 *** B_Chaos [~BaronChao@p5B26A198.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:24:14 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:27 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:24:33 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 21:26:20 *** goodger_ [~ben@host86-156-58-248.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:26:40 *** th1ngwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 21:27:13 *** Netsplit joule.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: Zahl, BaronChaos, Coco-Banana-Man, Dreamxtreme, Mark, Lakie, goodger, Splex, thingwath, George 21:27:13 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 21:27:13 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 21:27:25 *** Dreamxtreme_ is now known as Dreamxtreme 21:27:40 *** Netsplit over, joins: Splex 21:28:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17467 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): -Change: show the client id in join messages at the server (patch by dihedral) 21:28:38 <PeterT> yay! 21:28:53 <PeterT> oh, only at the server? 21:29:21 <SmatZ> what would it be good for for clients? 21:29:37 <PeterT> rcon 21:29:40 <PeterT> moderators 21:29:57 <KenjiE20> buh? 21:29:58 <SmatZ> you can do rcon clients easily 21:30:49 <PeterT> i guess 21:30:52 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:30:58 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 21:31:03 <PeterT> it sounds great especially for when a "Player" joins 21:31:26 *** Mark is now known as Guest1698 21:31:31 <SmatZ> actually 21:31:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:31:36 <SmatZ> you don't even need to rcon 21:31:41 <SmatZ> just "clients" as client 21:33:27 <PeterT> can you make a feature that dis allows anybody named "Player" from joining 21:34:43 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-26-253-221.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:35:09 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:37:45 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA786.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:16 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:09 <PeterT> why is the rcon GUI listed under WWOTTDGD3 development roadmap, but doesnt appear on tt-forums? 21:41:37 <Fast2> Hello 21:42:35 <PeterT> Hi 21:43:10 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17468 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix (r17464): mingw compilation was broken 21:46:14 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:03 <planetmaker> [23:40] <PeterT> why is the rcon GUI listed under WWOTTDGD3 development roadmap, but doesnt appear on tt-forums? <-- there's a difference between patch and hack 21:48:40 <PeterT> so, how do i get rcon gui? 21:48:50 <PeterT> im sure theres something im missing 21:49:01 <Rubidium> there's also: 'idea' and 'implementation' 21:49:17 <planetmaker> ^^^ 21:49:58 <Rubidium> basically meaning that if it's just an idea there isn't much use for it on the forum 21:50:02 <planetmaker> and with that good night. I drank wayyy too much. 21:50:34 <Rubidium> night planetmaker 21:50:43 <SmatZ> good night, planetmaker ;) 21:50:43 <Xaroth> nn 21:51:03 <PeterT> Rubidium, I thought they had made the patch, but forgot to add a link. 21:56:17 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-26-253-221.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 21:56:28 <Rubidium> hmm, timestamps... how useful is that in real-world consoles? 21:57:13 <Xaroth> depends, timestamps are quite useful for logs when you're tracking down things 22:00:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, sometimes i wish my consoles were timestamped 22:01:08 <PeterT> i asked for timestamped consoles about 4 months ago 22:01:18 <PeterT> and yexo said it would be implemented very soon 22:01:30 <Xaroth> soon is relative. 22:01:48 <R0b0t1> I'm one of those ancient turtles. Soon is 25 years. :) 22:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause> you're a Vulkanette? 22:02:48 <Eddi|zuHause> one part galapagos turtle 22:03:10 <Yexo> <PeterT> and yexo said it would be implemented very soon <- somehow I doubt I said that 22:03:29 <PeterT> along the lines of "we can do that" 22:03:39 <Eddi|zuHause> at most he said something like "it should be easy to implement" 22:03:42 <PeterT> PeterT| Great! How long? 22:04:21 <Yexo> for me "can" != "will", and "it should be easy to implement" != "I am going to implement it" 22:04:40 <KenjiE20> perhaps looking up the definition of 'can' would be good :) 22:05:33 <SmatZ> can? it's made of some metal, with meal inside 22:05:35 <SmatZ> or so 22:05:42 <SmatZ> @dict can 22:05:45 <SmatZ> !dict can 22:05:49 <SmatZ> :( 22:05:57 <KenjiE20> heh 22:06:33 <SmatZ> http://www.google.cz/search?q=define:can 22:07:02 <SmatZ> "Child Abuse and Neglect" scary 22:08:44 <Terkhen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_Awareness_Network <--- that's ironic 22:09:06 <SmatZ> "Prior to its hostile takeover," :-p 22:09:19 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 22:13:09 <PeterT> what the "!" between the equals sign? 22:13:18 <PeterT> why is that there? 22:13:28 <SmatZ> ! is not 22:13:32 <Terkhen> can != will means: "can is not the same as will" 22:13:35 <SmatZ> != is not equals 22:13:42 <SmatZ> hehe 22:13:52 <PeterT> oh 22:13:54 <PeterT> ok 22:14:35 <Terkhen> I can jump from a cliff, but I won't :P 22:16:14 <PeterT> Prove it 22:16:48 <Terkhen> I can prove it, but I won't 22:17:25 <PeterT> prove that you can prove it 22:18:42 <Terkhen> apply induction ;) 22:19:11 <Rubidium> Terkhen: maybe better push whoever you're talking to off the cliff, much better for your own health and still allows you to prove the point 22:20:00 <Terkhen> and it's way funnier than induction 22:20:23 <R0b0t1> If you pushed a clone of yourself off a cliff, would it be homicide, suicide, or just another obscene clone fall. 22:21:47 <SmatZ> certainly it would be obscene 22:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause> R0b0t1: how different should a clone and a twin be treated? 22:25:44 <R0b0t1> Twins are usually different. 22:25:50 <R0b0t1> Clone would be exactly the same 22:30:18 <Yexo> hmm, so pushing a clone of yourself off a cliff would be suicide, after all, since it's eactly the same, it'll also push you off the cliff 22:32:13 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32:24 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:33:09 <Terkhen> if you clone someone you hate and push the clone off a clif, it is homicide if the original is still alive? 22:33:48 <Eddi|zuHause> R0b0t1: i very much doubt that a clone will be the same 22:34:14 <KenjiE20> svn for clones! 22:34:20 <R0b0t1> Well, yeah. 22:38:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:11 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:56:39 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@oops.i.forgot.to.set.my.hostmask.kingj.net] has joined #openttd 22:57:54 <Ammler> hmm, suse is up2date again, the usual builder was absent :-) 22:58:07 <Ammler> is* 22:59:46 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e180239202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:00:47 *** Brianett1 [~brian@client-86-27-113-222.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 23:06:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-113-222.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:11 <Terkhen> good night 23:10:13 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@153.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:22:08 *** B_Chaos [~BaronChao@p5B26A198.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:26:47 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 23:27:38 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:19 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> joule.oftc.net quits: joachim, SirSquidness, Bergee, Wolle, Entane, Eddi|zuHause, @Belugas, qball, tosse, blathijs, (+33 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:31:03 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> solenoid.oftc.net quits: [wito], neli, Strid__, worm, Kodak, jpm, octo, dihedral, Katt, Yexo, (+27 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:31:10 *** Netsplit over, joins: Fuco, roboboy, @Belugas, Lachie_, Westie, dlr365, Splex, TheMask96, R0b0t1, nicfer (+12 more) 23:31:10 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> venus.oftc.net quits: @Rubidium, guru3, z-MaTRiX 23:31:27 *** Netsplit over, joins: @Rubidium, z-MaTRiX, guru3 23:31:41 *** Netsplit over, joins: [wito], Brianett1, [com]buster, Fast2, goodger_, Dreamxtreme, Lakie, Default_, Spoons, worm (+27 more) 23:31:58 *** Netsplit over, joins: Guest1698, Coco-Banana-Man, Sacro, welshdragon, TinoDidriksen, th1ngwath, zachanima, Wolle, dfox, Entane (+10 more) 23:32:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: KenjiE20 23:32:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v Rubidium] by ChanServ 23:36:02 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:18 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 23:39:36 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-173-176.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 23:43:33 <SmatZ> @calc 2 ** 24 23:43:33 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 16777216 23:43:52 *** petern [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has joined #openttd 23:43:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o petern] by ChanServ 23:47:33 *** Brianett1 [~brian@client-86-27-113-222.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss]