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D: 05:10:51 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:11:19 *** Pikkaa is now known as Pikka 05:14:27 <Pikka> a cookie for whosoever can make callback 30 work on houses? :) 05:21:31 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 05:33:40 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has joined #openttd 05:35:05 <nicfer> ALGUNO AWAKEN? 05:35:58 <nicfer> anyone awaken* 05:36:05 <Pikka> nope 05:37:03 <nicfer> oh, I see 05:38:22 <nicfer> is the default trainset too unbalanced? 05:40:59 <Pikka> too unbalanced for what? 05:44:29 <Tefad> maglev ftw? 05:46:23 <nicfer> yup, maglev and mono come too late and regular rail doesn't improve 05:52:28 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has left #openttd [] 06:02:08 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:06:56 *** [sleep]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:06:56 *** [com]buster is now known as [sleep]buster 06:12:03 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:17:50 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:24:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:24:46 *** [sleep]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:24:49 *** [com]buster is now known as [sleep]buster 06:42:10 <Rubidium> Pikka: major question is what callback ID to use 06:44:22 <Ammler> \o/ rpm works now with CentOS, Fedora, RHEL, SLE and openSUSE. :-) 06:44:44 <Ammler> (it doesn't with Mandriva) 06:45:56 *** [sleep]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:22 *** [sleep]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:47:42 <Pikka> Rubidium: 30? :P 06:48:30 <Rubidium> Pikka: but why are there up to 3 callback IDs for things like starting animation? 06:48:47 <Rubidium> gives me the feeling TTDP needs them to be different or so 06:49:36 <Pikka> o 06:50:23 <Rubidium> besides that the following patch http://rbijker.net/openttd/would_probably_do_the_trick.diff 06:51:01 <Rubidium> just need DaleStan or some other NewGRF guru to tell me what ID to use 06:51:12 <DaleStan> I'm pretty sure TTDPatch doesn't need different IDs for different features. It just stuffs a number into [curcallback] and calls getsprite. 06:51:30 <DaleStan> And sets the feature somewhere; I've forgotten that detail. 06:51:45 <Pikka> I think yexo used 14E... 06:51:51 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:52:38 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 06:53:04 <DaleStan> Same-ID-for-same-task definitely has its benefits, but it's not the current convention. 06:55:42 * DaleStan -> bed 06:56:01 <Rubidium> hmm, so just reuse 30? 06:56:05 <Rubidium> night DaleStan 06:57:04 *** MizardX- [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:57:04 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:18 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 06:57:34 *** MizardX- is now known as MizardX 06:57:48 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 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#openttd 09:36:38 <Rubidium> what a boring morning it is :( 09:37:20 <Muxy> go back to bed 09:37:58 <Muxy> start an openttd server 09:43:50 <Vikthor> as if there wasn't enough of them 10:05:08 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 10:07:32 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db02afb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:51 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:16:50 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051233148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:17:17 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA0AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:27:23 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:27:23 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31:31 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-166.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:35:49 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-253-252.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 10:38:11 *** nicfer 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don't fix your typing mistakes... it'll take ages :p 12:41:04 <Muxy> yeap i can see that... the longer i write... 12:41:36 <Muxy> better is to stop talking... :p 12:42:26 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is there someone who could donate me a wireless mouse? 12:43:23 <Muxy> i have 2 of them, but they dont work any more 12:44:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:45:22 <planetmaker> Muxy, he didn't ask for a working mouse... 12:46:17 * Ammler doesn't like to feed wireless mouses. 12:46:48 <Prof_Frink> That's why your hamster died. 12:46:54 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 12:46:58 <Ammler> true :'-( 12:47:58 <Muxy> PlanetMaker, that's why i talk about mines who dont work 12:48:11 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:30 <Fuco> hey Ammler, did you check out my AP+ 'fix'? 12:48:32 <planetmaker> yeah. Usually mines don't work. They're worked upon 12:48:40 <planetmaker> </nitpick> :-P 12:48:43 <Ammler> Fuco: already installed 12:48:50 <Prof_Frink> planetmaker: Or stepped on 12:48:59 <Ammler> but not finished, rcon and callback support is missing ;-) 12:49:03 <planetmaker> or driven on or worked in. 12:49:21 <Fuco> rcon from ps? 12:49:40 <Eddi|zuHause> mines get more effective with the invention of railroads 12:51:40 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 12:53:46 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 13:05:06 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8fe0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14:19 *** Nickman87 [~nick.defr@d54C3F29D.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:57 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:31:20 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8fe0.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 13:32:13 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA0AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:32:27 <Akoz> @calc exp(1) 13:32:27 <DorpsGek> Akoz: 2.71828182846 13:32:29 <Akoz> @calc exp(100) 13:32:29 <DorpsGek> Akoz: 26881171418161356094253400435962903554686976 13:33:41 <Akoz> @calc exp(-100) 13:33:41 <DorpsGek> Akoz: 0 13:33:47 <Muxy> @cal 1/0 13:33:52 <Muxy> @calc 1/0 13:33:52 <DorpsGek> Muxy: Error: float division 13:35:08 *** BaronChaos [~BaronChao@p5B26A08F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:41:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C3D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:10 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-166.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 14:00:17 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:34 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-27-233-99.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 14:04:29 <Belugas> hello 14:05:02 <Muxy> Goulp Kiss 14:11:22 <Belugas> Salut Muxy 14:11:34 <Muxy> "Bonjour Belugas" 14:15:32 <Aankhen``> Salut Muxy. 14:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause> *peng* 14:16:05 <Belugas> Salut Eddi|zuHause 14:16:16 <Belugas> Salut Aankhen`` 14:16:25 <Aankhen``> Salut Belugas. :-) 14:16:37 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: btw. i really don't understand why you didn't like that song ;) it clearly is a fan favourite over here ;) 14:16:44 <Aankhen``> for (i in #openttd) { say "Salut $i" } 14:16:57 <Muxy> Salut Aankehn`` 14:17:10 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, let say that... i'm not too much in "fanfar" :) 14:17:46 <Muxy> it's "le fan club" of "francophone Open TTD" players 14:18:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: anyone seriously playing that song would understand "fanfar" as insult :p 14:19:16 <Eddi|zuHause> but seriously, that is the most frequently requested song when we play anywhere... 14:20:03 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, or we do not agree on definition of "fanfar" or i did not heard the same song that you pointed me to 14:20:41 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you did hear the right song ;) 14:20:48 <Belugas> Muxy, je crois qu'il y a plus de francophones ici qu'on ne le penses. Juste qu'on a la sacro sainte regle de l'anglais seulement... 14:21:04 <Belugas> a la quelle je ne suis pas oppose.. 14:21:28 <Muxy> me neither 14:21:43 <Muxy> so do me (c) 14:22:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i read that as "i believe there are more french speaking people here than you think, just the 'sacred rule' enforces english only, which i am fine with" 14:23:08 <Belugas> congrats, Eddi|zuHause :) 14:23:10 <Muxy> no, he said he has no opposite 14:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it's a little freely translated ;) 14:23:37 <Muxy> but the idea is ok 14:24:14 <Muxy> and also "la sacro sainte regle" is "the sacred holly rule" 14:24:50 <Belugas> -l 14:24:53 <Belugas> holy 14:24:59 <Muxy> oups sory 14:25:03 <Belugas> +r 14:25:06 <Belugas> sorry 14:25:07 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't "sacred" and "holy" the same thing? 14:25:08 <Belugas> buwhahahahaha 14:25:15 <Muxy> no 14:25:56 <Belugas> related, Eddi|zuHause, i think, but not same, i think 14:26:39 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the nuances don't translate well... 14:27:13 <Eddi|zuHause> but i have never heard "sacred" and "holy" used simultaneously 14:27:38 <Muxy> just few minutes ago 14:28:26 <Muxy> you can be sacred without beeing holy 14:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause> like i said, it might just be lost in translation 14:29:27 <Eddi|zuHause> neither french nor english are my native language 14:32:31 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:40:03 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]] 14:41:11 *** Terkhen [kvirc@150.214.221.161] has quit [Quit: ...] 14:46:33 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:51:13 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8fe0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:41 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDBB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:48 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDBB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:36 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.243.153] has quit [Quit: An exit status of zero indicates success, and a nonzero value indicates failure.] 15:16:01 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.243.153] has joined #openttd 15:25:00 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so... i'm going away over the weekend... 15:34:46 <Eddi|zuHause> with no internets... 15:35:38 <petern> OH MY GOD 15:36:00 <Aankhen``> THE HORROR, THE HORROR! 15:36:09 * petern ponders banning all use of this stupid term 'internets' 15:36:20 <Aankhen``> What do you have against it? 15:36:26 <petern> it's stupid 15:36:37 <Aankhen``> It's a funny way to add some variety. 15:36:55 <petern> it's not variety if everyone does it 15:37:31 <Aankhen``> Yes it is. The people you interact with on the Internet are a tiny subset of the total population. 15:37:48 <Aankhen``> Hmm, poorly phrased. Better version of the first sentence: everyone doesn't do it. 15:38:42 <Belugas> there is only one internet. it's THE internet. If everyone is doing a mistake, does it means that in the end it's becoming the right thing to say? 15:38:45 <petern> the first version is at least grammatically correct 15:39:09 <Aankhen``> First version of? 15:39:23 <Aankhen``> The sentence? The second was correct as well. 15:39:30 <petern> "everyone doesn't do it" does not make sense 15:39:33 <Aankhen``> It's just grammatically ambiguous, like a lot of useful English sentences. 15:39:40 <Eddi|zuHause> fine, i say "intertubes" then 15:39:57 <petern> "not everyone does it" does make sense 15:40:10 <petern> your versions means that "everyone" "does not" "do it" 15:40:14 <petern> -s 15:40:16 <petern> Eddi|zuHause, better ;) 15:40:19 <Aankhen``> It can be parsed both ways. 15:40:27 <Aankhen``> But your version is indeed better. 15:40:29 <Aankhen``> So point taken. 15:40:48 <petern> both? that's the only way 15:40:56 *** thingwath [~thingie@wireless-153.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:42:56 <petern> Belugas, two wrongs make a right, only if you're playing music ;) 15:42:58 <Aankhen``> petern: Hmm, some research shows you're right. Fair enough. 15:52:17 <Belugas> or keep on playing the wrong notes until they become right :) 15:52:56 <petern> at least, when you're playing it 15:53:00 <petern> but not when you play it back :s 15:53:05 <petern> never mind 15:55:57 *** jpm_ is now known as jpm 15:57:54 *** Muxy [~Muxy@nt2001.opsio.fr] has left #openttd [Back to the Goulp] 16:00:28 *** thingwath [~thingie@wireless-153.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:10 <Belugas> i know what you mean, don't worry :) 16:06:11 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:18:56 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:23:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:24:12 *** Benny [~chatzilla@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:25 <Belugas> how nice... 2 days of certification, with the examinator on site with me, and it failed because they did not injected the right version of the firmware in the pinpad... 16:31:33 <Belugas> nice job guys, nice job... 16:35:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.220.31] has joined #openttd 16:35:06 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:41:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.162.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:25 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 16:49:46 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:48 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 16:50:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.82.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdb99.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C3D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.171.58] has joined #openttd 16:57:47 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9fdd.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 16:57:49 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9fdd.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 17:01:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejh178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 17:03:46 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2686.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:05:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B02D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:05:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:10:30 <Lakie> Hmm... Belugas / Devs. With Bananas I don't suppose OpenTTD would have the option to download a missing grf file assuming that its on bananas (same version) when joining or give the option to? 17:11:36 <Rubidium> Lakie: you tried clicking on 'newgrf settings', 'find online content', 'select all' and 'download' (in that order)? 17:13:39 <Lakie> Nope, I was just wondering if it had been linked up like that 17:13:44 <Lakie> Thanks 17:15:21 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:18:18 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: yexo * r17500 /trunk/src/ai/api/ (ai_controller.cpp ai_object.cpp ai_object.hpp): -Fix (r16502): The wrong value was restored to SetAllowDoCommand possible resulting in an AI that wasn't allowed to do any actions 17:27:20 <Sacro> ooh a nice number 17:27:21 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:42 <Alberth> you have until the next commit to admire the number 17:29:00 <Alberth> (in about 15 minutes probably) 17:29:20 <Prof_Frink> All hail the Number! 17:33:15 * Alberth doesn't think 100010001011100 is special. 17:36:55 <MyCatVerbs> ? Binary solo! 17:37:15 <Sacro> we used poisonous gasses and we poisoned their asses 17:40:11 <Belugas> hmm? 17:40:18 <Belugas> ho... good 17:40:22 * Belugas goes back to sleep 17:45:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17501 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt traditional_chinese.txt): 17:45:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: catalan - 20 changes by arnau 17:45:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 19 changes by josesun 17:48:41 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:06 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e176252097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:00:41 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051233148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:41 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:03:16 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 18:05:46 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13:25 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:33 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 18:28:56 *** thingwath [~thingie@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:29:52 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:24 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@168.226.104.104] has joined #openttd 18:35:32 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:20 *** KBH [~vircuser@41.145.167.206] has joined #openttd 18:39:46 *** KBH [~vircuser@41.145.167.206] has quit [] 18:53:09 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17502 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp osk_gui.cpp querystring_gui.h): -Codechange [FS#3184]: Extend QueryStringBaseWindow to support windows with nested widgets (by Terkhen with a few tweaks). 18:54:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17503 /trunk/src/window_gui.h: -Fix (r17502): Save all files before commit. 18:57:04 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9fdd.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 18:57:07 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9fdd.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #openttd [] 18:57:32 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@6.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 18:57:40 <Terkhen> hello 18:57:48 <Alberth> hai 18:59:02 <Terkhen> Alberth: I hope you didn't had to do much tweaking :) 19:00:08 <Alberth> nah, mainly ordered the SetFocusedWidget code by widget type rather than by computation step. 19:02:24 <Terkhen> yes, it looks much cleaner now 19:08:26 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 19:10:56 <Zuu> In the development version of PAXLink there was two bugs. The first bug limited the number of vehicles it could buy at a time to only one. The second bug was that the AI didn't keep track of the usage of airports. So it slowly bought to many airplanes. Now I first fixed the first bug and in a loaded game where it had 4 bilion it could spend 1.6 bilion a year on new aircrafts. :-) But now also the second bug is fixed so it won 19:10:56 <Zuu> 't spend all its money on tons of aircrafts. :-) 19:12:19 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17504 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: un-inlining SetFocusedWidget() as it is not often used. 19:12:25 <Prof_Frink> Zuu: Does it build small aircraft for small airports, or do you end up with a massacre like wrighty tends to? 19:12:46 <Zuu> It doesn't build big aircrafts on small airports. 19:13:10 <Zuu> It used to, but stopt doing that a few versions ago. 19:18:07 <Yexo> Prof_Frink: does wrightai still do that? I seem to remember I fixed that quite a long time ago 19:19:31 <Yexo> hmm, there is indeed no check for that 19:19:45 <Yexo> oh well, it's only an example AI anyway 19:20:09 *** [alt]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:42 *** Benny [~chatzilla@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]] 19:24:18 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:56 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17505 /trunk/src/ (widget.cpp widget_type.h): -Codechange: WWT_EMPTY is not a special case any more for invalidating widgets. 19:29:15 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.163.199] has quit [] 19:31:34 <Prof_Frink> Yexo: I last played with them ages ago. 19:39:07 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:53:18 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:55:10 <Sacro> http://cheeseorfont.mogrify.org/ 20:00:58 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:02:40 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8fe0.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 20:38:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:38:58 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE8fe0.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:40 *** Timitry_ [~Tim@p5B37CA88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:33 *** Timitry_ [~Tim@p5B37CA88.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 20:45:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B02D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:37 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B34FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:48:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:03:52 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:21 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:05:36 <Belugas> night all 21:05:59 <Nite_Owl> later Belugas 21:15:03 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:43 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 21:31:55 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:22 <ctibor> Hi, I have created rather big grf sets in my openttd.cfg, switching to some of them crashes openttd with error:Error: File 'pikkindw.grf' lost in cache. or similar depending on the grf first listed in the set. What is the cause and how to get rid of it? 21:41:48 <frosch123> did you move some files? 21:41:53 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:42:25 <frosch123> while ottd is running 21:42:42 <ctibor> Nope 21:43:13 <ctibor> unless openttd moves them itself, which I doubt 21:43:24 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA0AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:44:28 <ctibor> is it possible that some of the files are donwloaded through the openttd online content and thus they reside in different folder than others I got manualy? 21:44:48 <Nite_Owl> yes 21:44:54 * ctibor can't make normal sentence... 21:45:22 <ctibor> and could that be problem? 21:45:43 <ctibor> should move them all to data instead of donwload_content/data? 21:45:53 <Nite_Owl> it should not be a problem 21:46:28 <frosch123> paste.openttd.org <- ctibor: can you put your openttd.cfg there (the relevant part) 21:48:56 <ctibor> http://pastebin.com/m7c2a4803 - ok, heres how the grf set looks like 21:49:38 <ctibor> And I get this error when I try to switch to it in the main game menu 21:49:39 <ctibor> Error: File 'db_double_deck_coaches.v0.1/dbddw.grf' lost in cache. 21:51:51 <frosch123> when do you get that error, when selecting the preset? when starting a game? 21:51:55 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:59 *** Yexo is now known as Guest2159 21:51:59 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 21:53:06 <ctibor> selecting the preser 21:53:11 <ctibor> *preset 21:54:51 <ctibor> however if i put it to [newgrf] it crashes before it loads the main menu 21:55:16 <Terkhen> good night 21:55:20 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@6.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 21:56:07 <ctibor> what's the newgrf static section for? 21:56:52 <frosch123> some newgrfs are static safe, that means you can activate them on the client and join a multiplayer server which does not use it 21:57:08 <frosch123> e.g. landscape sets, which have no influence on the gamestate 21:57:56 <frosch123> however, i cannot reproduce your problem on my side 21:58:46 *** Guest2159 [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:00 <frosch123> though, you have quite a lot of grfs there, does it work if you only use 5 or so? 22:00:02 <Ammler> the order is bad, either. 22:00:17 <Ammler> the more important a grf the more down it should be. 22:00:33 <Ammler> i.e. vehicels at bottom 22:00:52 <Ammler> landscape at top 22:01:05 <frosch123> Ammler: what makes you think that is important? 22:01:21 <Ammler> he :-) 22:01:44 <ctibor> well striping down helps, i think I should not create huge monster sets than :-) 22:02:48 <Ammler> frosch123: maybe that is a old behaviour from TTDPatch usage :-) 22:03:00 <Ammler> as you did overwrite 22:03:21 <Ammler> well, in some parts you still do with openttd. 22:03:40 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 22:04:21 <frosch123> when did a vehicle grf override a landscape grfs? 22:04:39 <frosch123> except the stupid monolithic things like canse 22:04:52 <Ammler> well, that is the order 22:04:57 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest2161 22:05:03 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-20-21-242.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:10 <Ammler> houses, industries, infra is between 22:05:19 <Ammler> infra does overwrite land 22:05:38 <Ammler> vehicle sets do overwrite infra 22:05:52 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:29 * frosch123 ponders disabling grfs that use more than one feature 22:06:58 <Ammler> well, I also complained about that. 22:07:07 <Ammler> like the usroad sets with the roadcars 22:07:26 <Ammler> or how they are called, at least he added a parameter to disable. 22:07:59 <Zuu> maybe they are street cars aka trams 22:08:06 <Ammler> maybe he missunderstood set 22:08:21 <Ammler> Zuu: yes. 22:08:52 <Ammler> but I had best experience with the order from our pack. 22:09:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-253-252.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10:07 <Ammler> TTRS is also evil 22:10:13 *** Guest2161 [~Chris_Boo@client-86-27-233-99.popl.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:26 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:41 *** Combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:00 <ctibor> Well I found the solution... I had included OpenGFX to the set, but it is also configured in the game settings and it was being loaded twice, I think 22:22:07 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17506 /trunk/src/ (smallmap_gui.cpp viewport.cpp): -Fix [FS#3191]: signs partly drawn out of the rectangle in 4/8x zoom out. 22:27:30 <frosch123> well, for me it only says "maximum number of GRFs has been reached", no crashing 22:29:40 <ctibor> well for me both trunk and 0.7.2 says the error I posted 22:29:53 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDBB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - but then suddenly - by one false move it's blown away] 22:32:52 <Rubidium> can you provide a log with -d 9 including the error? 22:35:47 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:35:59 <Nite_Owl> check your list of grf's again - you have both ECS and Pikka's industries in there - do they not conflict ?? 22:37:17 <Rubidium> conflicting NewGRFs shouldn't crash OpenTTD 22:38:36 <ctibor> Rubidium: working on the log, it's huge, wget paste is having hard time :-) 22:40:06 <ctibor> Nite_Owl: Doesn't seem so, but haven't made any tests so far, because I just created the sets and was stopped by the "lost in cache" err 22:41:06 <ctibor> Rubidium: Well the log is indeed very huge, about 70 MB, i think this is not suitable for upload... 22:42:03 <Rubidium> what with -d grf=2? 22:42:11 <Rubidium> might not give enough information though :( 22:47:30 <Yexo> Rubidium: previously you suggested "-d 9" and now "-d grf=2", maybe "-d grf=9" could work? 22:48:07 <Rubidium> Yexo: unlikely, if it crashes at start, most of the spam is from parsing the NewGRFs for the first time 22:48:18 <Rubidium> and he probably has hundreds of them lingering around 22:48:27 <Yexo> ah, ok 22:49:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:50:47 <ctibor> Rubidium: I'll upload the full debug to the ftp, but it will be slow to download I think 22:51:03 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:35 <Rubidium> slow download doesn't bother me, as long as you upload finishes 'soon' 22:55:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C3D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:10:36 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B34FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:36 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:13:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B2F33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:13:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:18:44 <ctibor> Rubidium: try ftp://ftp:ftp@77.48.228.43/openttd.log , but I am not 100% sure it will work :-) 23:19:36 <ctibor> If it won't I'll hang up later and deliver the log the other way... 23:20:37 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:44 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 23:21:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 23:24:08 <frosch123> rb went to bed, but i cannot dl it either :( 23:25:25 <frosch123> ftp logs in, but then cannot enter passive mode 23:26:43 <frosch123> ah, active works 23:27:02 <ctibor> yeah, now I don't have energy to reconfigure ftpd, will look at it tomorow and give you ring about it here.. 23:27:06 <ctibor> good night :-) 23:30:37 <frosch123> transfer finished :) 23:31:09 <ctibor> very well then 23:32:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CCE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76134.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:35:16 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-20-21-242.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:18 <frosch123> oh, you have 0.5-style non-newgrf-grfs 23:40:05 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:19 <frosch123> maybe when loading them is aborted something is not cleaned up properly 23:40:30 <frosch123> well, but, good night from me 23:40:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdb99.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46:49 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:48:55 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176252097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*]