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00:08:09 *** zodttd2 is now known as zodttd 00:08:14 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 00:16:42 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe64d.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 00:22:33 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: evening 00:28:06 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-170-238-73.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:30:02 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.152.73] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 00:33:22 <Eddi|zuHause> ? 00:33:50 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 00:39:14 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:26:38 <Rhamphoryncus> huh. My trucks will go to the back side of a depot to load, but not to unload 01:28:27 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 01:34:05 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe64d.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:34 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:34 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 01:35:42 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: think i got it done, cheers 01:35:47 <Sacro> also getting the hang of vim 01:35:55 <Sacro> and finally got mercurial and ssh keys going too 01:41:12 <PeterT> mercurial for what OS, sacro? 01:41:20 <Sacro> I have it on all 3 01:41:24 <Sacro> Win,Lin,Osx 01:41:40 <PeterT> could you provide me with a *working* download link for windows 01:41:46 <Sacro> i use tortoisehg 01:42:02 <PeterT> from where? 01:42:02 <Sacro> http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/downloads/TortoiseHg-0.8.3-hg-1.3.1+7cea12e70129.exe 01:42:23 <PeterT> thanks 01:42:27 <PeterT> this has a command line? 01:42:30 <Sacro> Yep 01:42:33 <Sacro> and gui 01:42:37 <PeterT> cool 01:42:41 <Sacro> grab visualhg if you want it in vs 01:42:50 <PeterT> what do I type to download the trunk.hg? 01:42:53 <Sacro> http://sharesource.org/project/visualhg/wiki/ 01:42:59 <Sacro> erm 01:43:01 <Sacro> hg pull? 01:43:11 <Sacro> or it might be clone 01:43:49 <PeterT> for this: http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/? 01:44:01 <Sacro> hg clone $url 01:45:25 <PeterT> thanks 01:45:35 <PeterT> what do you use hg for? 01:45:42 <Sacro> Uni stuff 01:45:46 <Sacro> keeping assignments 01:46:04 <PeterT> hm? 01:46:08 <PeterT> assignments? 01:47:11 <Sacro> Yeah 01:47:15 <Sacro> learning flex and bison 01:47:18 <Sacro> right, bed 01:47:22 <Sacro> got labs at 9am 01:47:27 <Sacro> despite me being 3 weeks ahead 01:47:58 <PeterT> night 01:48:12 <Sacro> might order a new case tommorow 01:48:16 <Sacro> antec 300 :D 01:48:24 <Sacro> will look tidier for when I go to lan parties 01:48:25 <PeterT> nice :) 01:50:12 <Sacro> assuming i can find a drop off point :( 01:50:15 <Sacro> oh well, to bed 01:50:16 <Sacro> night 01:50:50 <PeterT> night 01:54:58 *** Fuco [~as@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:57:43 *** PeteT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:57:51 *** PeteT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:30 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 02:09:53 <Rhamphoryncus> oooookay. 4096 doesn't *sound* that big.. but it is 02:11:01 <Rhamphoryncus> wait, that's only 2048 02:17:53 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 02:25:04 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:04 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 02:30:28 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 02:34:29 <PeterT> Night All 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03:21:52 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 03:29:17 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 03:36:09 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:36:12 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 03:55:05 *** johnj [~john.edu@90-227-146-24-no147.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 03:56:42 <johnj> I desire tips on how to improve the design of my site www.jimem.netii.net 03:56:49 *** johnj [~john.edu@90-227-146-24-no147.tbcn.telia.com] has left #openttd [] 04:16:00 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 04:22:49 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:22:49 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 04:44:57 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 05:06:30 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has 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08:09:03 *** Terkhen [kvirc@150.214.220.240] has joined #openttd 08:14:31 *** hickop [~hickop@AGrenoble-257-1-132-23.w92-157.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:15:09 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17773 /trunk/src/ (sound/allegro_s.cpp video/allegro_v.cpp): -Cleanup: sdl.h isn't needed for allegro 08:20:54 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17774 /trunk/src/ (crashlog.cpp sdl.cpp sdl.h): -Codechange: show the version of the (dynamically) linked library instead of the one we compiled against in the crash log 08:27:20 *** Nickman_87 [~nick.defr@d515370C5.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:27 <boekabart> heh, allegro ! didn't notice that yet... What's the reason for adding that? DOS, or does it have advantages over SDL (on some platforms)? 08:27:55 * boekabart checked out allegro vs SDL for a TV settopbox client application last year 08:28:17 * boekabart now wonders whether OpenTTD could run on that settopbox... 08:28:21 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@rbijker.net] has joined #openttd 08:28:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 08:28:51 <boekabart> Rubidium: <boekabart> heh, allegro ! didn't notice that yet... What's the reason for adding that? DOS, or does it have advantages over SDL (on some platforms)? 08:29:20 <boekabart> (and good morning, of course) 08:30:24 <Rubidium> trying to make a DOS port, which fails for some reasons outside of dosbox. Allegro's MIDI is in my opinion better (resource wise at least) than timidity 08:30:58 <boekabart> you know that there is a DOS version of TTD right ... :P 08:31:25 <Rubidium> really? Didn't know that! 08:31:29 <boekabart> hehe 08:32:14 <boekabart> but say, for a linux TV settopbox application, you wouldn't advise switching from SDL to allegro for performance reasons? 08:32:51 <Rubidium> I haven't done any speed checking between the both 08:33:22 <Rubidium> allegro doesn't seem to support resizing the window to arbitrary resolutions by dragging the window, so I'm (almost) never using it 08:36:45 <boekabart> so you say 'doesn't work outside of dosbpx 08:37:05 <boekabart> you're impying that you have an actual DOS machine ? 08:42:41 <Pikka> doesn't everyone? 08:43:21 <boekabart> almost.... but most of them are somewhere high up in an attick covered in dust 08:43:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@195-241-124-225.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:44:10 *** Seberoth2 [~seberoth@xdsl-78-34-246-228.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:44:15 *** Seberoth [~seberoth@xdsl-78-34-103-196.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 08:48:42 *** TrainzStoffe 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Please, take care of them!] 13:13:38 <Belugas> morning al 13:14:19 <Eddi|zuHause> morning peggy 13:20:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B39FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:20:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:22:32 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:56 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 13:24:56 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe64d.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32:16 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-249-031-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:43:59 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 13:49:21 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:07 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 14:01:55 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 14:09:04 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@231.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:11:59 *** zodttd2 [~me@user-0c90n1c.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 14:14:07 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n1c.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:31:29 *** Fuco [~as@147.251.209.96] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:29 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:44 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 14:31:53 *** Fuco [~as@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:32:02 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:32:05 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:28 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:38:54 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 14:39:28 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@231.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 14:42:24 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:42:24 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 14:44:38 *** Terkhen [~terkhen@231.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:56:17 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - but then suddenly - by one false move it's blown away] 15:03:33 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:44 *** boekabart [~boekabart@pizzapazzi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:10:28 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:59 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:12:36 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.245.30] has quit [Quit: worldemar] 15:17:29 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:17:57 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:20:19 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:32 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 15:32:02 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:16 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.245.30] has joined #openttd 15:40:20 *** Mark [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:07 *** Mark [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:51:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B39FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:53:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B24E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:53:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:58:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcb56.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:28 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:38 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@190.50.38.106] has joined #openttd 16:17:32 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@j104246.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:17:55 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:55 <Belugas> Brantwan is such a nice fellow... I quickly have to raise high the fact that neither NekoMaster nor Brantwan are prefect representative of the vast majority of canadians... 16:23:35 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 16:29:57 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 16:30:44 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:44 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 16:36:09 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 16:40:03 <frosch123> http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=4296&page=1 <- three pages of fun 16:41:57 *** Pikkaa [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:27 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051179037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:51:17 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:29 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051179037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:29 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:54:41 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:17 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:16 *** Muxy [~Muxy@nt2001.opsio.fr] has quit [Quit: Back to the Goulp] 17:13:08 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:08 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 17:20:22 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@42.73.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:37 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.245.30] has quit [Quit: worldemar] 17:24:28 *** worldemar [~woldemar@62.106.104.135] has joined #openttd 17:24:59 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051179037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:23 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe64d.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:43 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:43 *** Luukland [~Luukland@ip195-211-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 17:29:27 <Luukland> Muxy? 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20:10:02 <Eddi|zuHause> easy to find via google ;) 20:10:30 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: do you ever go out? 20:10:39 <Sacro> you've been zuHause for as long as I've known you 20:10:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: yes, but my computer does not come with me... 20:11:02 <Hungarian1986> hehe 20:11:16 <Hungarian1986> this is disadvantage of table computer 20:11:26 <Hungarian1986> OTTD runs on laptops too... 20:11:28 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: ahh 20:11:32 <Hungarian1986> i think even on a netbook :P 20:11:40 <Sacro> so the computer is zuHause even if you aren't! 20:11:50 <Eddi|zuHause> basically, yes 20:11:54 <Hungarian1986> cause if you install some Linux on it, OTTD runs under linux too 20:11:56 <Rubidium> TTD even runs on 15 year old computers 20:12:07 <Hungarian1986> really? 20:12:22 <Hungarian1986> but it is written in C++ 20:12:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it should, as it is 15 years old 20:12:32 <Hungarian1986> so i think you can't run it under DOS 20:12:54 <_ln> you are talking about two different things 20:12:55 <Eddi|zuHause> C++ is even older than that 20:13:12 <_ln> and yeah, why would C++ exclude DOS 20:13:12 <Hungarian1986> btw is 7.3 the latest coop GRF? 20:13:27 <Hungarian1986> lol 20:13:29 <Eddi|zuHause> probably 20:13:32 <Prof_Frink> Hungarian1986: OpenTTD has been known to run on a subnotebook significantly less powerful than current netbooks. 20:13:36 <Hungarian1986> i thought C is older than DOS 20:13:37 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: OpenTTD won't run under DOS at the moment because the APIs (mostly SDL, I think?) it's written on don't have ports to dos. 20:13:39 <Rubidium> OTTD should run on those (old) computer too, as long as you run win95 20:14:04 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: but at least one person has been looking at porting it to run on Allegro, which would let it run under DOS. :) 20:14:26 <Eddi|zuHause> MyCatVerbs: afair there's an unfinished dos port lying around. the problem was that it didn't run under a real dos, only under dosbox 20:14:45 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: C++ under DOS isn't a problem. There's a port of gcc and g++ to DOS which works just fine, called djgpp. :) 20:15:06 <MyCatVerbs> Ah, I see. Oh well. 20:15:14 <Hungarian1986> do i look like a programmer to you dudes? 20:15:24 <MyCatVerbs> Yes, actually. 20:15:25 <fonsinchen> yes 20:15:29 <MyCatVerbs> Everyone on IRC does. 20:15:31 <Hungarian1986> i only know a bit about Asian ladies 20:15:37 <Hungarian1986> cause they are my favorite 20:15:47 <Hungarian1986> i had a Chinese gf once 20:15:54 <MyCatVerbs> It's a side effect of the fact that I'm looking at what you type via a terminal-based IRC client into which people enter teeeeeeeeeeeext. 20:16:06 <Hungarian1986> as a Hungarian white guy it is a pretty bit achievement :) 20:16:07 <fonsinchen> that doesn't make you look less like a programmer, don't even start it. 20:16:22 <Hungarian1986> lol 20:16:49 <Hungarian1986> when i was 12 i played TT and TTD on an old 586(!!!) under DOS 20:17:19 * Rhamphoryncus used to play on a 486/80 MHz 20:17:39 <fonsinchen> 386/33 here 20:17:40 <Hungarian1986> 586 was similar to 486 but it had 16 MByte RAM, 750 MByte HDD, 133 MHz CPU and 2 MByte VGA card :) 20:17:41 <Eddi|zuHause> hey, i played TT on a 386/25 20:17:48 * MyCatVerbs used to play on... huh, tell a lie, actually he hasn't played on anything older than an AMD K6. :/ 20:17:55 <Hungarian1986> so it was pre-pentium 20:17:58 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: nah, the CPU designs were surprisingly different. :D 20:18:00 <Hungarian1986> the 586 20:18:18 <Eddi|zuHause> it was hellishly slow after you bought more than a handful of trains 20:18:24 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: the term "586" refers exactly to the first line of Pentium CPUs. You might be a little confused? :) 20:18:34 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:18:34 * _ln didn't know a CPU could have a VGA card. 20:19:04 <Hungarian1986> but i couldn't install newer Win on it back then, only Win95 20:19:12 <Hungarian1986> and it had Turbo function 20:19:19 <Rhamphoryncus> So I installed a nightly a few days ago and have been using it. I've just rebuilt from hg to provide more info for a bug report. It complains about a missing language pack. Moving into objs/ fixes that, but now it complains about missing graphics sets. How can I get it to use the already installed ones? 20:19:21 <fonsinchen> Eddi|zuHause: yep, but soon after finding out about that I bricked the mainboard and upgraded to a _great_ 468/66, yeeeha! 20:19:24 <Hungarian1986> what wasn't available on Pentiums 20:19:31 <Prof_Frink> model name : Mobile Pentium MMX 20:19:37 <Prof_Frink> cpu MHz : 166.643 20:20:04 <MyCatVerbs> Prof_Frink: wow, nice. Is it coal-fired? :D 20:20:20 <Eddi|zuHause> fonsinchen: my father had a 486/60 and it played fine there. i later played it on a 486/25 laptop, and even there it was a lot faster 20:20:25 <Hungarian1986> anyway, thx for the help 20:20:32 <Prof_Frink> MyCatVerbs: Fanless actually 20:20:33 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: Hrmn? The old "turbo" button still appeared on Pentiums. :) 20:20:38 <Hungarian1986> with finding those shitty GRFs :) 20:20:42 <Prof_Frink> 21:20:19 up 372 days, 3:34, 4 users, load average: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00 20:20:59 <MyCatVerbs> Hungarian1986: all that does is, if you turn it off, deliberately slow the CPU down so that you can play old games which don't have proper timing delay loops. :) 20:21:00 <Hungarian1986> yeah but Turbo lost their functionity, since it wasn't switching the CPU speed 20:21:29 <Hungarian1986> i've seen some strange stuff back in the early 2000s 20:21:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i threw away that 386 a couple of months ago 20:21:35 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:35 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 20:21:49 <Hungarian1986> when most ppl haven't got internet, and had 486, 586 or Pentium 1 20:21:59 <Rhamphoryncus> c'mon, nostalgia's fine and all, but I have a serious question here ;) 20:22:08 <SmatZ> [22:21:46] <Hungarian1986> when most ppl haven't got internet, <== the dark ages! 20:22:17 <Hungarian1986> like playing old DOS-based games on PCs which had Win98 as OS 20:22:35 <Hungarian1986> games were like light-speed :D 20:22:50 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: missing language packs means that it didn't copy over the language files, possibly you compiled while having the game running 20:23:17 <Hungarian1986> your finger hit the button for 0,0000001 sec and the object what it controlled moved like 100 kilometers :D:D:D 20:23:20 <Hungarian1986> rotfl 20:23:41 <Rubidium> Rhamphoryncus: MSVC? IIRC you got to copy the binary to the bin directory 20:24:06 <Rhamphoryncus> Eddi|zuHause: didn't copy where? The readme.txt only mentions configure and make, not installation (or even if it's required) 20:24:15 <fonsinchen> Rhamphoryncus: If it's GNU toolchain, you have to call it like bin/openttd from the main directory 20:24:16 <Rhamphoryncus> Rubidium: linux, GCC 20:25:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: after compiling it copies the files from build/ to bin/, so if starting from build/ works, something in that step failed 20:25:06 <Rhamphoryncus> hmm. No language pack complaint, but still the graphics set complaint 20:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: what is the exact error message? 20:25:41 <Rhamphoryncus> Eddi|zuHause: no, changing dirs only got rid of the language pack part 20:25:45 <Rhamphoryncus> Error: Failed to find a graphics set. Please acquire a graphics set for OpenTTD. 20:25:49 <Rubidium> Rhamphoryncus: try 'make run' 20:26:04 <Rhamphoryncus> Rubidium: same thing 20:26:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: the graphics should go into ~/.openttd/data 20:26:21 * Rubidium fears time skew somewhere 20:26:36 <Rubidium> making something not being generated properly 20:26:45 <Hungarian1986> shit, i haven't been using IRC for ages 20:27:23 <Hungarian1986> i used it when i had P2 Celeron 566 MHz with 15 GByte HDD and 128 MByte SD RAm... lol 20:27:28 <Rhamphoryncus> Eddi|zuHause: that did it, thanks :) 20:27:33 <Hungarian1986> i had KiWwi ISDN 20:27:38 <Hungarian1986> 64 k/s 20:27:42 <Hungarian1986> it was a shit 20:27:56 <Rubidium> Rhamphoryncus: moving directories didn't rid you of the language pack error, it just errored earlier (not later) 20:28:08 <Eddi|zuHause> sometimes ISDN felt faster than my current line 20:28:13 <Rhamphoryncus> Rubidium: ah :) 20:28:16 <Hungarian1986> slower than using dial-in on non-state owned phone infrastructure in the plains of Hungary :D 20:28:36 <Hungarian1986> must ping something from a DOS console under Win98 :D 20:29:12 <Hungarian1986> here KiWwl was one of the crappest internets in early 2000s 20:29:17 <Muxy> fonsinchen: i will post the Goulp Patch for 0.7.3 in few minutes in tt-forums/dev 20:29:45 <Hungarian1986> the rule then was that one dial to have internet connection stopped to count the price after 150 HUF 20:29:49 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:49 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 20:29:54 <Hungarian1986> so everyone used ping 20:30:11 <fonsinchen> you had multiple internets back then? That must be funny ... 20:30:26 <Hungarian1986> no i had ISDN 20:30:47 <Hungarian1986> but ISDN was like a phone line... paying for the usage 20:31:00 <Hungarian1986> not fixed monthly fee like DSL or CableNET 20:32:03 <fonsinchen> Muxy, if you like I can build a debian amd64 binary from it then. 20:32:17 <Noldo> it becomes fixed monthly fee if it's on all the time 20:32:25 <Muxy> Yes please 20:32:29 <Hungarian1986> do you know when will they put new developements into Trunk? 20:32:41 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:42 <Noldo> which ones? 20:32:59 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 20:33:00 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:33:04 <Hungarian1986> like infrastructure sharing, traffic lights for roads, paths (dirt roads), etc. ? 20:33:08 <Hungarian1986> hi 20:33:29 <Hungarian1986> oh, and signals on bridges :D 20:33:34 <Muxy> fonsinchen, i'm testing code with a first compile 20:35:14 <Rhamphoryncus> How about signals in tunnels, height changes in tunnels, and subway systems ;) 20:35:18 <Rubidium> when they are a) done, b) coding style compliant, c) done, d) is implemented in a sane and future proof manner, e) did I mention "when it's done"?, f) when a developer has the time to review it 20:36:08 <_ln> the f) part takes 90% of the total time. 20:36:16 <Muxy> fonsinchen, patch is ready at http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45496 20:42:52 <Eddi|zuHause> usually the f) part invalidates a) to e), so the cycle starts again 20:43:55 <Muxy> until the developer restart from scratch and the new code has nohting to do with a) and is more stronger and powerfull... 20:46:29 <Belugas> has it ever occured? 20:48:22 <fonsinchen> what's the upload file size limit in the forum? 20:48:54 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:05 <Nite_Owl> 2Mb I believe but I would not swear to that 20:49:07 <Rubidium> 4MB IIRC 20:49:38 <fonsinchen> 4MB would be OK ... let's see 20:50:51 <Muxy> may be you can send me the binary 20:52:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it's usually enough to upload a binary with matching language pack 20:52:12 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 20:53:14 <fonsinchen> there you are 20:54:00 <Muxy> i'm still there 20:54:28 <fonsinchen> I mean, I have uploaded the binary to your forum topic :) 20:55:08 <Muxy> okay 20:55:21 <Muxy> thank you so much 20:56:01 <Muxy> what do you think about the ehancements ? 20:57:34 <fonsinchen> I haven't tried them. 20:58:13 <Hungarian1986> byeZ 20:58:50 *** Hungarian1986 [~chatzilla@catv-89-134-63-27.catv.broadband.hu] has left #openttd [] 20:59:25 <Muxy> fonsinchen, do you run a dedicated server then ? 20:59:34 <Belugas> time to run home... 20:59:38 <Belugas> night all 20:59:44 <Nite_Owl> later Belugas 20:59:59 <Muxy> bye Belugas 21:00:53 <fonsinchen> no, but you requested the binary. Or Luukland did. 21:01:35 <fonsinchen> And as there probably aren't many people here who can build amd64 lenny binaries I gave you a hand. 21:02:18 <Muxy> well yes, thank you, but the patch can be build for other CPUs 21:03:15 <fonsinchen> it can, but Luukland had a problem with his sysadmin which resulted in him needing that binary. 21:03:24 *** Seberoth [~seberoth@xdsl-78-34-103-196.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:38 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 21:06:24 *** Seberoth [~seberoth@xdsl-78-34-194-216.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 21:07:35 *** Muxy [~Benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 21:10:20 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: 2.01 21:10:24 <Sacro> ? 21:10:36 <Sacro> the game? 21:10:43 <Sacro> or something else? 21:11:00 <Prof_Frink> Yes, you just lost it. 21:11:07 <_ln> an updated version of Sacro? 21:11:18 <Prof_Frink> _ln: http://woodgears.ca/eyeball//index.html 21:11:23 <Sacro> ohhhhh 21:14:30 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.112.231.6] has joined #openttd 21:15:39 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcb56.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:46 <andythenorth> I come, he goes :) 21:20:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:20:09 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@42.73.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 21:20:37 *** Seberoth2 [~seberoth@xdsl-78-34-194-216.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 21:21:20 <fonsinchen> 10.3They call me 21:21:27 <fonsinchen> Grobmotoriker 21:22:26 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:27:58 *** Seberoth [~seberoth@xdsl-78-34-194-216.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:33 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:35 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.112.231.6] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:57:03 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:56 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEe64d.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:43 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: May the schwartz be with you! 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