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05:13:21  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17945 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Fix (r17940): Absence of main toolbar and/or status bar should not be fatal.
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08:36:47  <kingpin> hey guys
08:37:41  <kingpin> has anybody compiled openttd on mac os x?
08:37:49  <kingpin> as a static binary?
08:39:02  <dihedral> not me
08:39:07  <dihedral> why would you do that?
08:39:25  <dihedral> and what problems are you havingt
08:40:00  <dihedral> note to self: dont type while sneezing.... i of course meant 'having'
08:40:43  <kingpin> lol
08:41:00  <kingpin> i want to do it for 32bpp extra zoom
08:41:12  <kingpin> i managed to compile it for myself
08:41:22  <kingpin> (with some errors, but nontheless)
08:41:40  <kingpin> now i want to compile a redistributable version
08:41:51  <kingpin> so other could have extra zoom on mac too
08:42:55  <dihedral> it would be redistributable, just they need the required libs
08:43:39  <dihedral> and you are not being very specific on the issues you are having!
08:43:45  <kingpin> 1s
08:44:19  <kingpin> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=828569#p828569
08:44:29  <kingpin> (i'm ikarus)
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08:45:45  <dihedral> kingpin, what do you think the issue could be?
08:45:54  <dihedral> have a look at your error message and have another wild guess
08:46:21  <kingpin> well, it seems i dont have freetype properly installed
08:46:36  <dihedral> or not installed at all
08:46:42  <kingpin> when i compile without "--enable-static", freetype is found
08:46:47  <kingpin> i have it
08:46:54  <dihedral> and where is it?
08:46:59  <kingpin> did a "sudo port install freetype"
08:47:03  <kingpin> uuuuuh
08:47:09  <kingpin> let me check
08:47:39  <dihedral> perhaps it's not in the path it's looking for
08:48:00  <dihedral> and note, it's looking for freetype.a not freetype.so
08:48:27  <dihedral> however, you might be able to configure with --without-freetype or --disable-freetype, not sure which one it is
08:48:37  <kingpin> hmmmm
08:48:51  <kingpin> i thought freetype.a was part of freetype.so ...
08:51:55  <kingpin> well, as far as i can tell
08:52:00  <kingpin> freetype.a is for windows
08:52:23  <kingpin> http://www.miscdebris.net/plplot_wiki/index.php?title=Freetype#MinGW_compiler
08:52:37  <Rubidium> .a is for GCC
08:52:47  <Rubidium> (at least, that would be closer to the truth)
08:52:56  <kingpin> argh. can't i just download it from somewhere?
08:52:57  <Rubidium> e.g. MSVC uses .lib
08:53:27  <kingpin> Rubidium, you lost me at GCC (i know its the gnu compiler. thats it)
08:54:13  <dihedral> there are many compilers
08:54:20  <Rubidium> mingw's compiler is GCC, OS X's compiler is GCC, MSVC (Microsoft's compiler) is not GCC
08:55:09  <kingpin> aha
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08:59:54  <Rubidium> compiling your own freetype isn't that hard anyway
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09:18:07  <kingpin> so, what have i got to do to get a freetype.a  ?
09:18:32  <Rubidium> something with --enable-static in freetype's configure I reckon
09:18:53  <kingpin> this is gonna be fun
09:18:58  <kingpin> thanks
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09:58:21  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17946 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: move the widget definition of the client list closer to the window
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10:16:00  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17947 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: make the statusbar, chat input and news window know of eachothers size so they don't get overlapped and don't get invisible (bottoms) of windows when a larger font is used
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10:53:09  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17948 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: remove some magic numbers from the network client list GUIs / use ResizeWindow instead of custom resize code.
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12:12:26  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17949 /trunk/src/video/sdl_v.cpp: -Fix (r17776): unlock mutex before deleting it when creating drawing thread failed
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13:10:41  <Forked> so P1.. what does that have to do with OpenTTD development?
13:11:15  <nowotny_> are there any problems with http://www.openttd.org/en/ site at the moment...?
13:11:30  <dihedral> nope
13:12:45  <nowotny_> hmm... Opera has a very hard time loading it... :/
13:12:57  <nowotny_> works fine in IE though... :/
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13:36:31  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17950 /trunk/src/video/sdl_v.cpp: -Fix (r17776): _draw_mutex was never destroyed, _draw_thread was never joined
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13:50:39  <Belugas> hello
13:51:56  <Noldo> hello
13:54:21  <Rubidium> Forked: question is, where to move it to?
13:55:31  <Noldo> General | Off-Topic
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15:27:21  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17951 /trunk/src/ (45 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: simplify making the popup list, remove arbirary limitations and unused code/strings.
15:32:24  * yorick suggests openid for wiki/fs/bananas login
15:34:35  <dihedral> yorick, for bananas?
15:35:00  <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: bananas login is for uploading
15:35:10  <yorick> does it not use same logins?
15:35:50  <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause, i know!
15:38:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17952 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the network client list popup nested
15:39:15  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17953 /trunk/src/main_gui.cpp: -Fix: when you start giving money (input window for amount), then get moved to spectators and you click 'Ok' a crash would occur
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15:55:56  <dihedral> better a crash than being able to cheat funds :-P
15:56:18  * yorick disagrees
15:56:41  <yorick> still no nice command to make money out of nowhere as a server?
15:59:03  <yorick> how about removing misc_cmd.cpp:389?
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16:03:30  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17954 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the network client list nested
16:06:56  <Eddi|zuHause> there must be a nest somewhere
16:07:18  <Belugas> hooo hooo
16:07:20  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17955 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: s/SPR_PLAYER_ICON/SPR_COMPANY_ICON/
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16:15:11  <Rubidium> oh shoot... missed Belugas' train :(
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16:20:23  <Belugas> Crazy Train!
16:22:36  <bartavelle> i have to create an account to submit bugs ?
16:23:11  <yorick> yes
16:23:40  <bartavelle> this is not really user friendly
16:23:58  <yorick> why not
16:24:18  <bartavelle> i don't want to go through the hassle of creating an account to submit a bug, that's why
16:25:11  <Rubidium> yes, because most bug reports are missing vital information and without a way to contact the submitter there's nothing we can do. Also disabling the requirement for an account caused a severe increase in spam to the tracker
16:25:32  <Rubidium> anyhow, what's the bug? Maybe it's already known/fixed
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16:26:13  <Rubidium> and do you have a wiki/translator/bananas account; in that case you're already having the bug tracker account
16:26:17  <bartavelle> the sound thread takes 100% cpu
16:26:22  <bartavelle> (but sounds seem to work well)
16:26:31  <Eddi|zuHause> sound or music?
16:26:33  <bartavelle> i searched briefly and couldn't find a reference to this
16:26:38  <Rubidium> let me guess, you're using Ubuntu?
16:26:47  <Rubidium> and a 'recent' trunk version?
16:27:00  <bartavelle> the thread that backtrace in libasound / libpulse
16:27:02  <bartavelle> ubuntu yes
16:27:08  <bartavelle> and HEAD
16:27:33  <Rubidium> that's not really an OpenTTD bug
16:27:51  <Rubidium> or rather, it's not OpenTTD's code that's the slow thing
16:28:13  <bartavelle> ok
16:28:14  <Rubidium> -v sdl:hz=11025 probably solves it
16:28:48  <Eddi|zuHause> -v??
16:28:51  <bartavelle> it reduces CPU consumption
16:28:57  <bartavelle> stable version does not have this problem
16:29:05  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: oh yeah, -s :)
16:29:11  <Rubidium> so -s sdl:hz=11025 probably solves it
16:29:18  <bartavelle> but cpu consumption is still high with sdl:hz=11025
16:29:26  <Rubidium> bartavelle: that's because that defaults to 11025
16:29:49  <Rubidium> the newer versions allow better sound samples
16:30:26  <bartavelle> it behaves the same with and without -v sdl:hz=11025
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16:30:37  <Rubidium> yeah, the v should've been a s
16:30:41  <bartavelle> oh
16:30:59  <bartavelle> it is much better
16:31:19  <bartavelle> thanks
16:31:49  <bartavelle> I suppose I should not report this then ?
16:32:21  <Rubidium> report it to Ubuntu
16:32:36  <bartavelle> heh :)
16:32:44  <Sacro> I just bought a film with 3.141 stars out of 5.
16:32:45  <Sacro> It was a pi rated DVD.
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16:33:08  <Eddi|zuHause> no, that is not funny...
16:33:19  <Rubidium> SDL 1.2.14 might solve the problems (it mentions improved pulseaudio support in the release notes), yet they package 1.2.13-something
16:34:11  <Sacro> oooh, pulseaudio <3
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16:37:11  <Rubidium> bartavelle: does "SDL_AUDIODRIVER='pulse' openttd" as command help? (Without "s ofcourse)
16:38:11  <bartavelle> yes it does
16:38:21  <bartavelle> except i have no sound :)
16:39:07  <Rubidium> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tuxpaint/+bug/269082 <- seems to be the same issue
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16:39:51  <Rubidium> does installing libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio help?
16:41:06  <bartavelle> yes, problem solved
16:41:31  <bartavelle> thanks a lot
16:41:36  <Rubidium> you're welcome
16:41:49  <Rubidium> now... document this issue and fix in known-bugs.txt :)
16:41:58  <bartavelle> is this on the wiki ?
16:42:01  <bartavelle> oh
16:42:15  <Eddi|zuHause> and post the patch on your bug report :p
16:43:00  <Rubidium> nah, was more like /me is going to d....
16:44:58  <bartavelle> I can report the bug and document it ?
16:45:08  <bartavelle> or are you already doing this ?
16:45:35  <Rubidium> I'm documenting it; IIRC it was already reported a while ago
16:46:03  <bartavelle> ok
16:46:04  <Rubidium> nevertheless, documenting it doesn't really fix it. And only Ubuntu can really fix it, at least for you
16:48:56  <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/sdl-pulseaudio.diff <- is that clear enough?
16:51:14  <bartavelle> it is actually not slower to me as i have 2 cores
16:52:11  <blathijs> Rubidium: Looks OK
16:52:26  <blathijs> Rubidium: That might just have been the cause of a recent Ubuntu bug report, perhaps
16:52:44  <blathijs> Rubidium: Any clue as to what is the cause exactly?
16:53:07  <Rubidium> blathijs: no clue
16:53:12  <Rubidium> updated the diff by the way
16:54:04  <Rubidium> blathijs: the sdl-pulseaudio issue only becomes apparant when using hz=44100, not when using hz=11025; at least all complaints where from trunk users
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16:55:41  <bartavelle> hz=11025 did not improve the situation in any way to me
16:56:33  <Rubidium> using ubuntu 9.10?
16:56:47  <bartavelle> 9.04
16:57:08  <Xaroth> did you try 22000?
16:57:16  <Rubidium> and you don't have trouble with the stable releases?
16:57:25  <bartavelle> i didn't have trouble with the stable release indeed
16:57:30  <Rubidium> oh, did you compile yourself?
16:57:32  <bartavelle> but this fixed my problem
16:57:34  <bartavelle> yes
16:58:11  <Rubidium> odd, very odd
16:58:38  <Rubidium> oh... no, trunk has 16 bits sound, 0.7 8 bits
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16:59:02  <bartavelle> hum i didn't realise there were nightly .debs
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17:04:36  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17956 /trunk/known-bugs.txt: -Document: CPU usage issues with SDL-ALSA-PulseAudo
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17:45:28  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17957 /trunk/src/lang/ (greek.txt norwegian_nynorsk.txt spanish.txt):
17:45:28  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:28  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: greek - 5 changes by fumantsu
17:45:28  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: norwegian_nynorsk - 21 changes by Utvik
17:45:28  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: spanish - 2 changes by Terkhen
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18:05:52  * Rhamphoryncus browses eyecandy on the 32bpp thread :O
18:06:04  <Rhamphoryncus> (well, *a* 32bpp thread)
18:07:56  * Belugas grabs all candies on the table
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18:16:01  <Belugas> why?
18:16:05  <Belugas> got enough alright
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18:26:07  <rikketik> llo..
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18:28:05  <rikketik> Hello, im new to coding and patching.. i dll tortoiseSVN to do the patcing. but i dont know really how to patch =p
18:30:25  <Rubidium> check the thread about patching in the development subforum
18:33:13  <glx> first step is to compile without patching
18:33:59  <rikketik> oh uhm compiling everything from svn://svn.openttd.org
18:34:24  <glx> only svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk
18:34:37  <rikketik> oh shit im doing it all :p
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19:37:15  <welshdragon> I may have broken openttd
19:37:29  <welshdragon> 500+ Rv's is not a good idea
19:38:31  <welshdragon> it's lagging like a sheep on ecstasy
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19:40:31  <Sacro> lolfail
19:40:41  <Sacro> i'd also like to see a sheep on ecstasty
19:42:24  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17958 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the join progress window nested
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20:12:59  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17959 /trunk/src/window_gui.h: -Cleanup: remove unused function
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20:24:56  <_ln> hello members of species
20:30:15  <FauxFaux> Hello unix command!
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21:24:06  <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17960 /trunk/src/lang/greek.txt: -Change: plural type of greek
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21:29:21  <Belugas> [15:30] <FauxFaux> Hello unix command!  <--- whohahahahah!!!!1
21:29:23  <Belugas> lovely
21:29:51  <FauxFaux> Fear my awesome sense of humour!
21:30:15  <FauxFaux> I was going to mention stdcall name mangling, but couldn't really make it fit.
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21:46:52  <Xaroth> FauxFaux: if you'd have said that against somebody with the nick sl you'd have me laughing...
21:48:11  <Belugas> i wold have said that "sl stinks"  ...
21:48:39  <Belugas> but that is a play with words and translation in french
21:48:56  <FauxFaux> If only /exec -o sl worked.
21:49:06  <Sacro> hehe
21:49:06  <Belugas> sl -> ESSE ELLE  -> "AISSELLES puent"
21:49:09  * Sacro considers it
21:49:25  <Sacro> Error opening terminal: tty.
21:49:28  <Sacro> :(
21:49:44  <FauxFaux> There's no concievable way it's going to work. :)
21:50:47  <Sacro> damn
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21:58:35  <Xaroth> Belugas: use axe?:P
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21:59:21  <Belugas> my axe is too rusted for any real use
21:59:25  <Xaroth> heh
21:59:27  <andythenorth> go north
21:59:29  <Belugas> apart scaring little kids :)
21:59:36  * Belugas goes home
21:59:38  <Belugas> bye
21:59:40  <Xaroth> o/
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22:02:35  <andythenorth> I come...they go :|
22:03:31  <asilv> true
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22:05:19  <Xaroth> o_O
22:07:51  <andythenorth> I go
22:07:58  <andythenorth> :o
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22:08:03  <Xaroth> bye :o
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