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00:00:24 <Sacro> happy new year everyone 00:01:06 <KingJ> Happy new year! 00:01:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18678 /trunk/ (50 files in 4 dirs): -Update: happy new year 00:01:46 <sparr> 3 years from now when someone needs to run blame on that revision... 00:02:21 <PeterT> blame? 00:02:25 <PeterT> what is blame? 00:03:28 <__ln> a noun 00:03:46 <zar> tells you who's commited which line of the source file. 00:03:58 <PeterT> why is it called "blame"? 00:04:09 <glx> it has many aliases 00:04:13 <orudge> you ask a lot of questions 00:04:28 <thingwath> PeterT: because basically you are mostly using it to find whose fault something is? :) 00:04:39 <glx> "praise" does the same IIRC 00:05:01 <PeterT> that doesn't seem logical... 00:05:11 <orudge> sure it does 00:12:10 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:00 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:13:05 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@j104051.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:51 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:42 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 00:17:55 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:21:23 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]] 00:21:57 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:24 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:23:39 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@j104051.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 00:24:51 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 00:32:34 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:48 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7620E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:14 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:33:56 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 00:34:42 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:53 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:38:58 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-57-225-237.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44:54 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:52:30 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:06 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 01:05:08 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9662.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:06:13 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:20 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 01:11:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> happy new year from two hours ago 01:11:19 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 01:18:44 <PeterT> is there a way to find the number of wiki edits that other users have made? I know how to find my own, but I can't find other peoples' 01:25:05 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:39 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 01:56:15 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:57:23 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-170-57-13.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:57:35 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.96.67] has quit [Quit: ???????] 02:10:14 *** darkmonkey [~josh@94-194-62-217.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:12:13 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:20:23 <sparr> PeterT: how do you find your own? 02:20:41 <PeterT> My Preferences 02:21:34 <PeterT> if you're logged in, you can use this link to get there, sparr: http://wiki.openttd.org/Special:Preferences 02:23:49 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9E65.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:24:21 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9FF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:26:53 <sparr> http://wiki.openttd.org/Special:Contributions/PeterT 02:27:26 <PeterT> That doesn't show the number of edits, just the edits themselves 02:27:34 <sparr> yeah, you'd have to count :) 02:27:41 <PeterT> I'm not stupid, I have tried this before... 02:27:45 <sparr> copy and paste into an editor with a line counter? 02:31:14 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Bye - http.//dev.openttdcoop.org] 02:31:14 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: gone...] 02:32:02 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:40:32 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:40:40 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:52:55 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 03:01:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.211.54] has joined #openttd 03:01:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.211.54] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02:40 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:a43b:78d2:3f1f:cd25] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:12:16 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:33:59 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 03:44:28 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:56:16 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-170-57-13.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56:20 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:00:49 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:01:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 04:01:54 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 04:13:15 <PeterT> <sparr> copy and paste into an editor with a line counter? <-- That's like trying to justify Windows Vista, it's just not right 04:15:08 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 04:16:21 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 04:32:47 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 04:32:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:33:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:47:56 *** Fast2_ [~Fast2@p57AF99BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:48:53 *** pods [~pods@87.110.231.162] has quit [] 04:50:06 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm67.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 04:52:34 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9662.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:55:54 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:00:29 *** Fast2_ [~Fast2@p57AF99BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:01:28 <PeterT> happpppyyy new year east coasters! 05:02:10 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:02:13 <Aali> you're late to the party 05:02:23 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 05:02:29 <Aali> it's 6 AM 05:03:24 <roboboy> its been 16 hours and three Minutes 05:03:54 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 05:04:06 <PeterT> Aali: i said east coast 05:04:12 <PeterT> roboboy: i said east coast 05:04:32 <Aali> PeterT: I am currently residing on the east coast 05:04:42 <Rubix``> damn 05:04:44 <Aali> PeterT: it's still 6 AM 05:04:45 <Rubix``> i still got another 56 minutes 05:04:50 <Rubix``> :< 05:04:59 <Rubix``> and my gf is in fucking alaska :< 05:05:16 <Aali> atleast she's not fucking in alaska 05:06:31 <Aali> but I guess you don't really know that, eh 05:08:14 <PeterT> Aali: 6AM? Which east coast? 05:09:05 <Aali> PeterT: the east coast of sweden 05:09:15 <PeterT> There we go 05:09:36 <PeterT> If you had filed your crash.dmp and crash.log we wouldn't have this problem 05:09:47 <Aali> and now I'm going to bed 05:10:24 <Aali> so I haven't really crashed yet, but I'm going to now 05:19:09 *** NeosaD [~Alty@182.Red-81-43-201.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:30:33 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 05:35:19 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47:10 *** DarkED [~J@cpe-075-176-105-070.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 06:02:57 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Good night] 06:45:09 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 06:50:50 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 06:51:08 <luckz> anybody awake? 06:52:51 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:31 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 06:55:31 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 07:18:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 07:35:59 *** amiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:42:18 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:59:24 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:05:19 *** amiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:37:27 <Ammler> good morning and happy new year to everyone 08:46:00 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 09:03:58 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:50 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 09:26:00 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:27:16 *** DarkED [~J@cpe-075-176-105-070.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:28:47 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:38:24 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-242-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:01 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 09:45:52 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:55 *** Madis [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]] 10:03:56 *** Bergee [~bergee@98.250.52.144] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:21 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-98-250-52-144.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:31:35 *** robotboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:31:39 <Muxy> Hello everybody, and Happy Goulp Year ! 10:31:47 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:32:00 *** robotboy is now known as roboboy 10:32:07 *** DaZ [~ident-dwa@dte133.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:36:29 *** DaZ_ [~eh@dsh141.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:12 <peter1138> happy what? 10:48:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.96.67] has joined #openttd 10:53:50 <Rubidium> peter1138: happy OS X deprecation? 11:13:23 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:18:18 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 11:22:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D57B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:30:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.211.54] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:34 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:43:14 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:44:09 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:44:21 <_ln> is there an official statement or something about the deprecation of OS X? 11:44:34 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:48:25 <Alberth> as in a whole thread about the topic? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=45247&start=0 11:53:58 <peter1138> most of the comments of which flame us because obviously macs are perfect and we're doing it wrong 11:54:42 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:55:06 * roboboy thinks apple is silly to an extent 11:57:46 *** Sweet|Home [~Sweet@81-86-165-20.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 11:58:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.211.54] has joined #openttd 12:06:10 <[com]buster> I occasionally have to do apple development for work 12:06:15 <[com]buster> it totally sucks 12:06:29 <[com]buster> if apple didn't invent it, you can't do it 12:06:35 <_ln> Alberth: that's fine. i just don't read the forums regularly. 12:06:54 <roboboy> !logs 12:07:42 <Alberth> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/last?count=50 12:07:57 <roboboy> thanx 12:11:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:29 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:20:27 <_ln> why not contact Steve directly, and have him assign a team of a dozen full-time developers to fix the issues 12:20:44 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B04A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:20:44 *** NeosaD [~Alty@134.Red-83-50-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:44 <NeosaD> Buenas!!!! 12:21:11 <_ln> NeosaD: did you mean "??Buenas!!"? 12:21:24 <Alberth> _ln: he is welcome to submit patches 12:21:29 <NeosaD> hehe 12:21:40 <NeosaD> sorry Buenas = Hello 12:22:17 <_ln> Alberth: i don't think Steve can code much himself, nor submit patches 12:23:06 <Alberth> anybody in his name would be fine too :p 12:26:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:28:40 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AEF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:02 <_ln> FS#3194 and FS#2585, the two most important unfixed Mac bugs are both related to fullscreen video. I wonder if they could be fixed by using the Quartz video implementation in fullscreen too. 12:34:36 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF99BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:36:13 *** ecke_ [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:36:58 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:33 *** xopek [xorkrus@ip-67-189.interbild.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:18 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:53:44 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8dc3a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:55:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:57:07 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:25:41 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-f5f9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:39:32 <Zuu> Any user of Filter Sign List patch? I'm thinking about making it so that when you focus the filter edit box, then the first sign become selected (blue). 13:40:16 <Zuu> So that it is more obvious that when you hit enter, the first sign in the list is the one viewed, and that you can use the arrow-keys to move up/down. 13:41:32 <Zuu> But the code becomes a bit less obvious.. hm 13:45:23 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AEF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:53 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:49:53 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AEF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:56:15 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:58be:9733:53d9:2fdd] has joined #openttd 13:56:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:56:58 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:53 <Zuu> Hmm, I'll leave it as it is. It is fairly consistent as it is and I don't feel that I get a more consistent feeling by changing it. 14:01:34 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:03:48 <PeterT> Zuu: I would prefer the patch continued to be updated (to trunk) 14:04:12 <Zuu> I'm working on a update. 14:04:43 <PeterT> Oh, sorry 14:04:54 <PeterT> I hadn't read the Development forum yet 14:06:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 14:07:57 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc2ff6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:23 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:18:22 * Luukland likes bugs :) 14:18:43 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 14:19:32 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20:03 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:20:56 <Zuu> Interesting, if you disable a button before it raises, it will stay lowered. 14:21:54 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 14:21:59 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:22:09 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:23:01 *** JVassie^ [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:27:26 * Zuu wonders how the propper way is to disable a button when you click on it so that it will not stay lowered. 14:28:14 <PeterT> probably involves source code, somewhere :-) 14:29:36 <Zuu> I mean, even if I call RaiseWidget(WIDGET_INDEX) before calling DisableWidget(WIDGET_INDEX) it will stay lowered after the user has clicked on the button. 14:30:28 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:49 <Alberth> Perhaps also redraw it with this->SetWidgetDirty (widget_index) ? 14:33:06 <Alberth> or the whole window with this->SetDirty() of course 14:34:24 <Zuu> I tried to (as user) move that button outside the screen and back again to force re-draw but that didn't help. Or is the window paint cached in a surface? 14:34:52 <Alberth> no, it gets redrawn 14:35:30 <Alberth> you'd get the same effect if you move another window over it. 14:35:42 <Zuu> My guess is that whe left click dispatch code sets the button as lowered after my click handling code. 14:36:12 <Zuu> s/whe/the/ 14:36:22 <Alberth> that would be an explanation 14:36:58 <Alberth> you could verify perhaps by printing the lowered state after disabling 14:38:28 <Alberth> hmm, only OnKeyPress and OnCTRLStateChange return a EventState 14:38:33 <Alberth> *an 14:40:26 <Zuu> My verification code shows that IsWidgetLowered(..) returns false after I have raised and disabled the widget. 14:40:39 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:43:43 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:04 <Alberth> So that code works as expected. Some other code messes things up most likely. You could print when the widget gets raised again, or better set a breakpoint on that, then see where the call comes from 14:45:45 <Zuu> Would that break point be in RaiseWidget function? 14:49:16 <Alberth> I seem to remember that SetWidgetLoweredState() or ToggleWidgetLoweredState() are the lowest window functions. They both use widget->SetLowered() so that may be another option 14:49:52 <Zuu> Yep, that seams so. 14:50:00 <Alberth> also, you are looking for lowering the widget again, not raising 14:51:11 <Alberth> ie NWidgetCore::SetLowered(true) would be the call 15:04:59 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 15:05:14 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 15:05:38 <Zuu> Okay, it was a bug in the Filter Sign List patch: the OnClick handler of the clear filter button called "this->HandleButtonClick(widget)" at the end of the click handle code. 15:05:46 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-82-26-76-175.bmly.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:16 <Zuu> Thank you for your help. 15:06:28 <Alberth> yw :) 15:14:16 <Luukland> This might sound a bit stupid but how can I replace a float? 15:14:59 <Zuu> By storing the value in a integer possible multiplied by 100. 15:16:46 <Alberth> or by a power of 2 (eg 1024) 15:17:57 <Luukland> Alright 15:18:03 <Luukland> That will be difficult :p 15:18:47 <valhallasw> why do you want to replace it, and what do you want to replace it with :) 15:19:27 <Luukland> Simple, OTTD + Float = no go 15:19:35 <Luukland> So I need to fix it 15:20:38 <peter1138> depends where 15:21:02 <Zuu> Alberth: Now after fixing that bug the status is that if you disable a button you need to manually raise it using RaiseWidget(..). That can be done either after or before DisableWidget. 15:21:18 <valhallasw> so what do you want to store :) 15:22:18 <Luukland> (float)((((float)sum_all_ratings / 256)) + (float)factor)) 15:22:19 <Luukland> :) 15:25:02 <valhallasw> I have no idea how big/small sum_all_ratings and factor are :) What is the range of values, and what precision do you need? :) 15:25:25 <valhallasw> at the sight of it, using ints should be fine 15:25:34 <Luukland> UUhhhh, let me first get into the matter my own, I am still not sure how to fix 15:29:39 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-55-244.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:33 <Alberth> Zuu: that's what I would expect, lowering and disabling are completely independent afaik 15:36:06 <Alberth> Luukland: store the value *256, and only divide (or shift) when you need its 'real' value. 15:38:23 <andythenorth> stumbled over old thing this from peter1138 on the forums...thought it was worth grave digging: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=41610 15:39:36 <PeterT> go do it! 15:45:14 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 15:45:15 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:24 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-55-244.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:55:07 <PeterT> thanks Zuu for the update 15:56:03 <Zuu> You're welcome. When I saw that my FS#3256 was added, I though it is time to update the filter sign list patch. :-) 15:56:22 <PeterT> I really hope that gets into trunk 15:56:59 <Zuu> Eh.. Got a notification email from tt-forums in a non-english language that looks like Spanish or something like that. 15:57:14 <PeterT> portugues, actually 15:57:30 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=844637#p844637 15:58:33 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF99BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 2.0.0.20/2008121709]] 15:58:49 <Zuu> hmm, would be better if it was still in Danish, that is at least somewhat readable if you know Swedish. :-) 16:00:30 <PeterT> lol 16:00:33 <PeterT> translate.google.com 16:00:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:45 <Zuu> That message does not really need a translation if you are familar with the phpbb url schemas. 16:07:52 <PeterT> @seen Pikka 16:07:52 <DorpsGek> PeterT: Pikka was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 4 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Pikka> a certain other project :P 16:17:38 <_ln> danish is a universal language 16:18:58 <PeterT> I love danishes 16:20:40 <planetmaker> Hm, what are the placement conditions for default farms? 16:20:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:00 <Xaroth> non-frozen non-desert soil? 16:21:28 <planetmaker> in arctic, yes. Hm... because we have an arctic game and we have no farm and our people starve... 16:21:41 <planetmaker> and not even on a specially made low-land plane it wants to build one... 16:22:41 <planetmaker> is there also a requirement how much space there has to be for fields or alike? 16:23:44 <Xaroth> no clue 16:26:01 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-18-137.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:22 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:57 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-18-137.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 16:27:48 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 16:28:49 <planetmaker> hm, not even the scenario editor won't let me build one... 16:30:19 <Luukland> farms must be placed on grassland and have no space requirements for fields 16:33:57 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:38:50 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:36 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 16:56:08 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@119.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 16:56:35 <Terkhen> happy new year :) 16:57:04 <PeterT> happy new year, Terkhen 16:57:15 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59:34 *** NeosaD [~Alty@134.Red-83-50-203.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:00 *** Alty [~Alty@155.Red-83-41-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:02:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D57B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08:08 * jonty-comp proclaims death to openttd.org 17:09:20 <Luukland> :S What is your tracking record jonty-comp? 17:09:45 <jonty-comp> well, someone mentioned it in #tycoon 17:09:50 <jonty-comp> and it has indeed died 17:09:57 <jonty-comp> so I thought I might as well claim responsibility 17:10:24 <Rubidium> bah... leaky apache again 17:10:36 <Luukland> Ghe ghe sounds like apache webserver needs a restart 17:10:52 *** KasperNymand [~KasperNym@188.178.174.74] has joined #openttd 17:11:29 <KasperNymand> Any administrator here? 17:11:51 <Luukland> openttd.org is down for maintenance and will be fixed :P 17:11:59 <jonty-comp> :D 17:12:09 <KasperNymand> That was my question :D 17:12:26 <Luukland> I know that is your question and I even gave you an answer :) 17:12:39 <KasperNymand> Is it a crash or a update of the website? 17:12:44 <Luukland> euuuhhhh 17:12:47 <Luukland> crash ^^ 17:12:52 <KasperNymand> Okay :) 17:13:32 <Rubidium> the problem... again... is that there is NO proper webserver 17:13:46 <KasperNymand> How long will it take? 17:13:59 <Luukland> around 4 mins if you give the correct commands 17:14:11 <KasperNymand> What do you mean? 17:14:13 <Rubidium> to write a webserver that is proper; probably infinitely long 17:14:38 <KasperNymand> How long will it take, to the website is up and running again? 17:14:42 <jonty-comp> or just use lighttpd 17:14:43 * jonty-comp runs away 17:14:46 <Rubidium> about -3 minutes? 17:15:40 *** jonty-comp was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [you know fully well that lighttpd sucks and that the maintainer doesn't care. And if you didn't: http://redmine.lighttpd.net/issues/1283] 17:15:45 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@vps.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:54 <George> Hi. I'd like to ask about FS#2069 17:16:00 <jonty-comp> :( 17:16:04 * jonty-comp likes lighttpd, anyway 17:16:05 <Luukland> Ghe ghe, jonty-comp, you should have shatt app :P 17:16:37 * jonty-comp shall, he thinks 17:16:41 <Rubidium> hmm, so how to limit apache with it's misbehaving 17:16:58 <George> Rubidium: the problem that I do not get any building that requires slope code 00 for SW tile and 0C for NE tile 17:17:16 <Luukland> I also have problems with apache lately, random crashes at random times 17:17:28 <Luukland> its to drive the users mad! 17:17:48 <jonty-comp> Rubidium: hmm, I see what you mean 17:17:57 <jonty-comp> that there is even a 'Wontfix' status is a bit stupid 17:17:59 <George> http://george.zernebok.net/temp/ECSHousew.grf 17:18:42 <George> Rubidium: I get no hotel praha 17:18:43 <KasperNymand> Wohoo! The website is working again. :) 17:19:07 <Luukland> [18:13] <Luukland> around 4 mins <-- it were 5 :P 17:19:35 <Rubidium> KasperNymand: it was 7 minutes ago also 17:20:08 <George> Rubidium: It looks like OTTD does not try to building with Building flags = 4 on such slope combination 17:23:50 <KasperNymand> No it wasn't 17:33:11 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-165-71.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 17:39:02 <planetmaker> happy new year folks :-) 17:39:08 <George> Rubidium: do you have time to speak about FS#2069 or should I ask you later? 17:41:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:43:08 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:19 *** KasperNymand [~KasperNym@188.178.174.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:13 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:00 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:00:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:03:42 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:08:45 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:10:16 *** Alty is now known as NeosaD 18:10:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18679 /trunk/src/ (station_cmd.cpp waypoint.cpp): -Fix (r16993): tile area of waypoints wasn't correctly given to NewGRFs in case of multi tile waypoints 18:11:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18680 /trunk/src/newgrf_station.cpp: -Fix: Whole station area is already correct size. 18:13:46 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18681 /trunk/src/newgrf_station.cpp: -Codechange: Use existing TILE_LOOP method for iterating trigger area. 18:21:49 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 18:28:17 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:30 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 18:29:58 <George> I've reported the problem under FS#3466 18:31:43 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm67.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:35:59 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 18:36:55 *** ecke_ [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke_] 18:39:09 <planetmaker> Hm...: "Uhm, would you be so kind not to load a NewGRF that makes the 'query' sprite a non-normal sprite? See the readme for more info. Most likely you're missing files from the original TTD" (r18669) 18:39:27 <planetmaker> surely I have the base files :-) 18:40:12 <Rubidium> planetmaker: is that an error you actually hit, or just a grep of OpenTTD's sources? 18:40:32 <planetmaker> that's what I got with the macos SDL port when resizing 18:40:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:49 <peter1138> heh, it is out of date though 18:41:13 <planetmaker> sure :-) 18:41:31 <Rubidium> planetmaker: sounds like some massive memory corruption or so 18:41:58 <planetmaker> hm. should I reboot? :-) 18:43:09 <Rubidium> planetmaker: no, just sounds like something really bad is going on with SDL on Mac OS X 18:43:34 <planetmaker> hm, I add that there. 18:45:06 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:45:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r18682 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 1 changes by josesun 18:45:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 36 changes by 18:45:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 1 changes by martin_meridius 18:45:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 1 changes by junho2813 18:45:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: norwegian_bokmal - 5 changes by CyberKenny 18:45:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18683 /trunk/ (16 files in 9 dirs): -Fix: it's not an other 18:49:48 <planetmaker> the question is: which "there"? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3464 (resizing) or http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3447 (SDL). Aslo for SDL it only fails in multiplayer mode... 18:49:57 <planetmaker> *Also 18:51:35 <Rubidium> add it to the resizing one and link to it in the 3447 (3447 depends on 3464) 18:52:01 <planetmaker> ok 19:03:18 <andythenorth> building industries on coasts is a headache :( 19:04:26 <fjb> The water runs away every 6 hours... 19:04:42 <andythenorth> fjb: funny 19:04:58 <andythenorth> now if you'd just help write a massive action 2 chain to detect slopes...? 19:05:02 <andythenorth> :P 19:05:44 <sparr> how do you implement a buffer depot? 19:05:58 <fjb> I would start by writing some kind of assembler which takes in something readable and puts out nfo code. 19:06:01 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:56 <andythenorth> fjb: wouldn't help you much, you'd still need to figure out a lot of tile corners, and the branching logic :) 19:07:08 <andythenorth> nfo is not the problem for once, it's just a thorny problem 19:09:02 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:09:34 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc2ff6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:00 <Rubidium> a problem with UTF8 strings? 19:15:26 *** JVassie^ [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:32 <sparr> it amazes me that ttdpatch still has such a thriving community 19:17:54 <peter1138> errr, it doesn't 19:17:55 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c07f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:20 <planetmaker> does anyone know their download stats? 19:19:23 <sparr> peter1138: at all = "such" :) 19:23:59 <_ln> sparr: how surprising is that considering how much more features it has compared to ottd. 19:24:30 <sparr> _ln: I haven't used it in years, so I don't remember what else it did 19:24:44 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8dc3a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:00 * andythenorth sad about how the game implements drawing landscape over foundation tiles 19:25:28 <peter1138> hmm? 19:25:32 <_ln> sparr: me neither, but they e.g. added trams years before ottd did... although the ottd project kind of has the full source code, and ttdpatch does not. 19:26:44 <andythenorth> patch also enables different ship speeds depending on canal / sea tiles 19:31:52 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.77.76.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:47:51 <Terkhen> Hirundo: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=46189&p=844744#p844744 19:47:59 <Terkhen> I only had to change this: http://paste.openttd.org/220814 19:58:23 <rhaeder> better add hidden input field (token) to your pastebin, else spammer will rule it down :( 20:01:45 <fjb> Stupid spammers. Who reads pastebin entries which are not linked to? 20:02:53 <Ammler> _ln: the source of ttdpatch is available too 20:03:06 <_ln> Ammler: certainly, but not the source of TTD. 20:03:21 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-242-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:03:42 * Ammler wonders, if there is still something running with native TTD code there ;-) 20:06:17 <Zuu> IIRC { ... } after case XYZ: is not mandatory in OpenTTD and should only be used if a variable is used in the case-code. 20:06:31 <Zuu> Right? 20:06:43 <peter1138> yup 20:07:14 * Zuu removes unneccessary {} from the filter sign list patch. Not sure who added them. 20:07:52 *** darkmonkey [~josh@94-194-62-217.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:10:45 *** K [~Founder@194.50.80.117] has joined #openttd 20:10:48 <K> hello.... question 20:11:08 <K> I have a big train network 20:11:09 <Zuu> Just post your question, and then people can answer your question. 20:11:16 <K> with say.... 20 trains 20:11:36 <K> say I built another train station and wanted to add all the 20 trains to now goto this new station aswell 20:11:48 *** fjb is now known as question 20:11:52 <Zuu> Shared orders my friend :-) 20:11:57 <K> yeah thats the one 20:12:00 <K> how do I do it? 20:12:04 <K> I've forgotten :S 20:12:05 <question> Hello K 20:12:09 *** question is now known as fjb 20:12:13 <K> (been ages since I played this) 20:12:14 <Zuu> ctrl + goto 20:12:18 <K> ahh 20:12:19 <K> ty 20:12:29 <K> and hello twatface @ fjb 20:12:34 <Terkhen> K: http://wiki.openttd.org/Shared_orders#Shared_orders_2 20:12:35 <K> I mean.... fjb* not twatface 20:12:36 <K> :p 20:12:39 <Zuu> But you need to make your existing trains to share its orders first, then add the new station. 20:12:47 <K> yeah I know how itw orks 20:12:51 <K> I jsut forgot how to do it 20:12:51 <K> >< 20:12:58 <K> (been awhile since I played this) 20:12:59 <K> lol 20:13:02 <Zuu> Also ctrl+clone button is good to remember. 20:14:37 <K> thx Zuu 20:14:38 <K> :) 20:14:53 <K> just spent last 30mins googling and sifting thru websites trying to find this info lol 20:14:53 <_ln> K: there's a wide big button on the bottom of your keyboard, called "space", which is used to separate words from each other. 20:15:15 <Luukland> or use the right mouse button inside OpenTTD 20:15:25 <Luukland> it will display some extra information 20:15:35 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-165-71.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:54 *** darkmonkey [~josh@94-194-62-217.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:07 <Zuu> At my keyboard space and return/enter has the same size. Yet I don't use the return key to separate my words. :-p 20:16:56 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B1A4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:07 * fjb sends K a bad of ".". 20:17:22 <fjb> bag of 20:17:39 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:03 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 20:19:15 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B1BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:22:52 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:27:40 <peter1138> heh, 20 ... big ... heh... 20:29:13 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:25 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 20:29:44 *** Mark__T [~mark@port-92-192-197-234.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:36:52 *** darkmonkey [~josh@94-194-62-217.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:37:52 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:08 *** NeosaD [~Alty@155.Red-83-41-66.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 20:38:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:38:32 <George> a question about Randomized Action 2 - what is the max value for <nrand> ( Number of set-ids to choose from, must be a power of 2) for houses? Is it 256 or can it 512 and more? 20:39:19 *** NeosaD [~Alty@168.Red-213-98-213.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:33 <Ammler> is it possible the music volume control doesn't work? 20:42:44 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D57B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:02 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF99BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:55:23 <Luukland> version OS? 20:58:01 <peter1138> Ammler, yes 21:02:25 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc2ff6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:42 *** snorre_ is now known as snorre 21:07:48 <peter1138> especially on linux 21:12:18 *** roger [~roger@32.142.40.18] has joined #openttd 21:12:33 <roger> how can I delete openSFX 21:12:48 <planetmaker> rm -rf / 21:13:07 <roger> and nothing else? 21:13:15 * fjb thought about the same. 21:13:20 <peter1138> why bother? 21:13:37 <roger> because I have 50 KB of a 10 MB file 21:13:44 <peter1138> hehe 21:14:26 <planetmaker> roger: you usual file browser will certainly help you 21:14:53 <roger> is it in /usr/share or in ~ 21:15:09 <glx> ~/data I think 21:15:10 <peter1138> .openttd/content_download 21:15:20 <planetmaker> oO 21:15:40 <planetmaker> I hope you didn't follow all advice blindly ;-) 21:15:40 <glx> ha right ~/.openttd/content_download :) 21:15:43 <Terkhen> good night 21:15:59 <planetmaker> night Terkhen 21:16:08 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@119.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 21:16:23 <roger> just the .tar file or do I have to clear anything else? 21:16:47 <glx> just the tar (if it's a tar :) ) 21:16:54 <roger> ok 21:16:57 <roger> cool 21:16:58 <roger> thanks 21:17:00 *** roger [~roger@32.142.40.18] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:17:00 <glx> on windows using the installer it's a folder 21:18:18 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:53 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 21:37:03 <Rubidium> planetmaker: 29 for 'yesterday', 'today' 27 21:37:32 <planetmaker> downloads TTDP? 21:37:43 <planetmaker> that's a slightly different number than for OTTD :-) 21:37:47 <kd5pbo> What's planetmaker? 21:38:01 <Rubidium> planetmaker: yes, a grep of ttdpatch and zip in the access logs 21:38:16 <kd5pbo> :D Duh... 21:39:15 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:39:54 <planetmaker> thanks for bothering Rubidium :-) 21:44:01 <Rubidium> I wondered myself too, and it's quite easy too look up for me 21:44:57 <peter1138> ttdp and ottd share more than you might think ;) 21:45:00 <Rubidium> looks like people are bored today 21:45:36 <Luukland> Yeah it has never been so busy on the servers ever 21:45:43 <Rubidium> so many bug reports lately :) 21:46:09 <Luukland> ghe ghe :) 21:47:39 <kd5pbo> What's ttdp? 21:47:48 <PeterT> TTDPatch 21:48:32 <planetmaker> apropos... in depot view... with egrvts and articulated trucks it looks a bit strange 21:49:02 <planetmaker> Rubidium: I guess you got a whole new user basis with the 1.... 21:49:18 <planetmaker> (the ... denote what people don't notice anyway :-P ) 21:50:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74A15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:50:16 <Luukland> Well, I like the new scenario settings with 1.blabla 21:50:52 <planetmaker> scenario settings? 21:51:16 <Luukland> yeah, now you can change settings (eg max loan) in scenario maker 21:51:23 <Luukland> like it was in TTDeluxe 21:51:32 <planetmaker> ah, right. Yes, that's nice to have. 21:51:34 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AEF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:48 <Luukland> around 5.blabla someone hardcoded this, so that it couldn't be changed inside the editor 21:52:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75439.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D57B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:12 <peter1138> 5.blabla? i don't remember that version 21:55:14 *** Mark__T [~mark@port-92-192-197-234.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:18 <peter1138> but i guess it's a future one 21:55:47 <Luukland> very funny >_< (Referres to: new user basis with the 1.... (the ... denote what people don't notice anyway :-P ) 21:57:38 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CAC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:43 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18684 /trunk/docs/openttd.6: -Fix: for some "man"s an empty line is an error 22:05:38 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CAC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:10:01 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CAC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:16:39 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.206.95] has joined #openttd 22:30:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.211.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:45 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:34:06 <Zuu> What about having a standard key for cycling around focusing of edit boxes in any window? 22:35:00 <Zuu> Filter sign list patch uses the f-key for focusing the edit box, but it would be nice to have something standardized for that. 22:35:54 <Zuu> What would best fit with the non-(o)ttd world would be to use the tab-key. But that clatches with fast forward in non-debug builds. 22:36:17 <Rubidium> or with tab completion 22:36:29 <Zuu> hmm, yep sure that too 22:36:52 <Zuu> Is ctrl+tab a good idea? 22:37:08 <Zuu> (for switching focus) 22:37:35 <Rubidium> don't know 22:37:38 <Zuu> Or shall we use the f-key or something else fairly un-standard. 22:39:03 <Zuu> I think, redarging your comment on a bug lately that generally windows should not give edit boxes focus by default. Windows like the query string window being an exception since its primarly task is to let users type a string. 22:42:13 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 22:50:21 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:54:20 <SpComb> hmm... can't change difficult settings on a server? 22:55:29 <Rubidium> in what sense? Changing them in the config file reverts them? 22:56:26 <SpComb> rcon ... "set difficulty.construction_cost 2" 22:56:55 <planetmaker> SpComb: that'd not be multiplayer safe 22:57:06 <planetmaker> IIRC 22:57:15 <SpComb> synch it to the clients just like the other patch settings? :/ 22:57:28 <planetmaker> well, you cannot change all settings 22:57:31 <Luukland> I do know that if you change rcon ... "set difficulty.vehicle_breakdowns 1" -> rcon ... "saveconfig" -> Next game it is old value again 22:58:00 <Rubidium> it's deep into the initialisation, NewGRFs can read it, so those need to be reinitialised... i.e. big mayhem 22:58:03 <planetmaker> try to change air speed or vehicle pool 22:58:24 <SpComb> myes, dbsetxl was why I wanted to change it 23:00:03 <fjb> Famous dbset. You have to play it like it was intended by MB. And ou have to pay the real prices of the vehicles at the high difficulty setting. 23:00:17 <SpComb> yes, that's what I wanted :) 23:00:45 <SpComb> what with over a 1.5bEUR cash on hand already 23:00:52 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: OpenTTD Campaign, OpenTTD servers; luukland.goulp.net] 23:01:36 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-163-84-238.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:10 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:15 <PeterT> fonsinchen? 23:02:41 <PeterT> can you update the TRUNK_VERSION.txt file? 23:05:06 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:13 *** sparrL2 [~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:13:51 <sparr> the problem with TTD as a game is that no matter how difficult you make it, the mechanics are geared towards pure success or pure failure. it is almost impossible to continue barely succeeding. once you are making money, you have more of it than you need 23:15:08 <_ln> hmm, that was the most accurate and interesting analysis of the year 23:16:19 <murr4y> that's only if you consider bankcrupcy as failure and everything else as success 23:16:26 <murr4y> you have to set tougher goals for yourself :) 23:17:16 <_ln> well.. after a certain point it tends to happen that your income is so big that you can build virtually anything and never need to think about money anymore. 23:17:28 <murr4y> also, that's not true for multiplayer games.. if you're competing 23:18:41 <murr4y> you might be filthy rich, but still have rankings just a bit lower than your competitor :p 23:30:11 <fonsinchen> petert, what's wrong with it? 23:30:28 <PeterT> it doesn't work against the revision you wrote 23:30:33 <PeterT> in trunk_version.txt 23:30:44 <PeterT> lots of failed hunks 23:30:45 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 23:30:47 <fonsinchen> 18678 23:31:02 <PeterT> That's not what it says in trunk_version.txt... 23:31:24 <fonsinchen> http://fickzoo.com/fonsinchen/patches/current/TRUNK_VERSION.txt 23:31:32 <PeterT> "r18655 23:31:32 <PeterT> " 23:31:39 <fonsinchen> says (for me):r18678 23:31:55 <fonsinchen> some browser cache issue? 23:32:05 <fonsinchen> can anyone else try, please? 23:32:51 *** K [~Founder@194.50.80.117] has quit [Quit: Dispatch, I got a 10-67. 10-23, over.] 23:34:03 <PeterT> You are right, fonsinchen, I just tried in Google Chrome 23:34:22 * Zuu thanks Alberth for nested_widget->index :-) 23:34:29 <PeterT> a hard refresh fixes it 23:34:53 *** Combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:26 <Zuu> Though, it is kind of neccessary when standard pointer magic isn't possible to determine the index of the focused widget. 23:35:35 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc2ff6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:24 <PeterT> @seen Bilbo 23:38:24 <DorpsGek> PeterT: Bilbo was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 50 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 57 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <bilbo> nothing wrong, but also nothing good :) 23:40:02 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:29 <peter1138> @seen bjarni 23:48:29 <DorpsGek> peter1138: bjarni was last seen in #openttd 16 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 48 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Bjarni> Belugas: there is no reason to write to PeterT. We already know he is unable to read anyway :P 23:49:05 <Rubidium> oh wise lord of the OS X port 23:55:59 * Zuu wishes that the nested lord would be online 23:56:58 *** mirQus_ is now known as mirQus 23:57:18 <Zuu> But maybe the paint-code has an example on how to loop over all widgets (leafs) in a nested widget structure. 23:58:09 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:17 <glx> http://bugs.opendune.org/view.php?id=26 <-- OSX is fun for every projects ;) 23:59:42 <Rubidium> well... that's just ironic