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00:01:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-63-154.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:02:48 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d8233a3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: bis dann] 00:08:03 <Rexxars> man 00:08:12 <Rexxars> first of all, I'm drunk, sorry 00:08:44 <Rexxars> anywho.. I work as a consultant, and was recently hired by this company in our nations capital 00:09:14 <Sevalecan> this is a fascinating story. 00:09:22 <Rexxars> so I came to this place, and after a while I got talking with some of the people who work there.. turns out like 50% of these people have played openttd 00:09:26 <Rexxars> how awesome is that? 00:09:47 <Rexxars> I've got an ottd game lined up this wednesday, couldnt be more excited tbh 00:09:56 <Rexxars> high five anyone? o/ 00:10:10 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 00:10:11 <Sevalecan> \o 00:10:55 <Rexxars> awesomesauce 00:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> is there spam in that? 00:11:39 <Rexxars> hpow is that spam? 00:12:18 <Rubidium> so 50% of drunk people have played OpenTTD? 00:12:29 <Rubidium> then the drunk people issue is highly overrated :) 00:13:12 <Rexxars> no, that wasnt the point... these people are not drunk 00:13:39 <Eddi|zuHause> so you know more people that played openttd than are drunk? 00:13:47 <Rexxars> right now? 00:13:53 <Rexxars> probably 00:14:22 <SmatZ> hehe 00:14:56 <Rexxars> wait, no 00:15:26 <Rexxars> ah fuck it, this is going nowehere... I was making a point that it was awesome how many people play ottd these days ^^ 00:15:34 <SmatZ> no? it's friday evening! 00:15:50 <SmatZ> :o) 00:15:59 <Eddi|zuHause> friday is feed the trolls day? 00:16:45 <Rubidium> but... it's saturday... 00:16:53 <Rubidium> or at least, that's what screen's telling me 00:17:18 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:18 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest2308 00:17:18 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 00:17:37 <SmatZ> right, though... it still belongs to friday, it will be saturday when I wake up on saturday :-p 00:17:37 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 00:17:51 <SmatZ> last time I woke up was friday 00:21:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the concept of "midnight" as end of day has faded during the last century 00:21:55 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:4b0:6f63:75fd:915a] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause> starting with the widespread introduction of electric light, culminating in worldwide realtime communication 00:23:39 *** Guest2308 [~Dale@24.12.4.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:12 *** Uresu [~Wes@5ace7bdb.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:32:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76D8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:38 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:5ae3:813a::1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:14 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-58-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:58:17 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-58-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:40 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-58-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:08 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-166-26-81.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:15 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.170.238] has quit [Quit: ????] 01:03:43 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-58-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:41 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-58-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:05:04 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:17 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 01:09:18 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9A31.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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04:06:24 <Sevalecan> is it because there are depot orders in the queue(they refit at each end)? :P 04:07:54 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-58-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08:27 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:5ae3:813a::1] has joined #openttd 04:18:04 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:20:01 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:60c4:ce55:bc0b:eeb7] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:42:19 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 04:47:29 <Sacro> Sevalecan: yes 04:49:31 <Sevalecan> is there a way to get it to maintain as needed without sending it to a "nearest" or specific depot right after a stop even so? 04:51:02 <Sacro> Not sure I'm afraid 04:51:05 <Sacro> i'm trired 04:51:07 <Sacro> *tired 04:51:08 <Sevalecan> oh well 04:51:09 * Sacro sleeps 04:51:12 <Sevalecan> night 05:23:44 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 05:39:21 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:07:31 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has quit [Quit: Penda] 07:04:20 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05:45 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 07:12:30 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has left #openttd [computer has gone to sleep] 07:13:07 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 07:41:50 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 07:41:50 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:29 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.253.120] has joined #openttd 08:14:43 *** Maarten- [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 08:20:38 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:09 *** Splex [~splex@n219078152189.netvigator.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:37:41 *** Splex [~splex@n219078152189.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 08:51:59 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5adb1d87.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 08:57:20 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad545e8.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:20 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 09:04:50 *** JurrienK [~JurrienK@84-106-105-62.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:05:17 *** JurrienK [~JurrienK@84-106-105-62.cable.quicknet.nl] has left #openttd [] 09:05:42 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:11:33 *** Splex [~splex@n219078152189.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:15:09 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@206.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 09:15:15 <Terkhen> good morning 09:17:06 <Sevalecan> good afternight 09:21:22 *** Splex [~splex@n219079136170.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 09:24:34 <andythenorth> morning 09:26:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FFCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:27:04 <Rubidium> it's morning already? 09:28:16 <andythenorth> sleepless night? 09:29:14 <Rubidium> no, just bad that I need to go to the shops to get something to eat next few days 09:29:47 <Rubidium> especially when my bed is at such a nice temperature 09:33:04 <peter1138> hmm, i wonder where i can find XP professional media... 09:35:51 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:39:56 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hans@87.196.187.106] has joined #openttd 09:40:08 <HackaLittleBit> good moaning 09:42:09 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:42:33 <HackaLittleBit> rubidium: signal.cpp is complaining, you took out #include "company_base.h" on line 472 09:43:09 <HackaLittleBit> assert(Company::IsValidID(owner)); 09:44:07 <Rubidium> huh? 09:44:35 <Rubidium> I did what? http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/file/tip/src/signal.cpp#l19 09:45:03 <HackaLittleBit> the assert on line 472 triggers 09:45:11 <peter1138> company_base.h wasn't removed... 09:45:37 <HackaLittleBit> because you took out company_base.h header file 09:45:49 <HackaLittleBit> from the includes 09:45:53 <peter1138> it was added, not removed 09:46:00 <HackaLittleBit> hu 09:47:22 <peter1138> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/18809/trunk/src/signal.cpp 09:47:23 <peter1138> ^ see 09:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> HackaLittleBit: maybe you saved an older version after updating? 09:48:30 <HackaLittleBit> my fault damned 09:48:47 <HackaLittleBit> sorry to wake you up guys 09:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause> err... "make: *** /home/johannes/spiele/OpenTTDx/trunk/objs/debug: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden. Schluss." <- something's not working with the "this checkout was moved within the directory structure" detection 09:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> it seems to work after the second try... 09:54:15 <Rubidium> yeah, more or less a somewhat unresolvable issue with make; if you do the reconfigure and remake the Makefile it will still execute the old makefile 09:55:21 <Rubidium> especially because calling the 'source' Makefile's location in code in the old Makefile 10:08:25 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-199-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:56 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:13:25 <peter1138> so when do we switch to cmake or waf? heh 10:16:08 <Rubidium> why not ant? 10:16:50 <Rubidium> although... we could simplify the compiling significantly by ditching the crap that's needed for Mac OS X cross compiling 10:34:10 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has joined #openttd 10:45:09 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-44-188.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:45:23 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 10:49:51 * Tera plays TTD theme *tadadada dada daaa dadadada daaa DA DA* 10:50:27 * SpComb fines Tera for an unlicensed public performance of a copyrighted work 10:52:36 <Eddi|zuHause> over here, you can play unlicensed music, as long as you fill out the GEMA sheet 10:52:59 <Terkhen> what text editor do you use on linux for C++? 10:53:14 <Eddi|zuHause> they'll then tell you how much you have to pay depending on potential audience and stuff... 10:53:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Terkhen: i use Kate 10:54:16 <SpComb> vim 10:56:09 <Terkhen> I'm trying kate right now, there's a few details I don't like but it is way better than gedit 10:57:58 <Terkhen> vim seems to have a steep learning curve, I'm looking for something simpler 10:58:57 <Terkhen> I should give it a try when I have more time, I heard it can do anything 11:00:32 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B769.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:04:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:09:03 * roboboy wonders if it would even be possible to allow veiwing of tunnels as they are but in a quasi underground mode 11:09:27 <roboboy> ie so that one can place where a train is in a long tunnel easily 11:10:34 <roboboy> I don't want anything fancy like rct's underground mode as thats nie on impossible with the current code 11:12:17 <Alberth> why is 'somewhere in the tunnel' not good enough? 11:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause> roboboy: there were some attempts at a "terrain slicing" (i.e. "paint everything up to height X"( 11:17:49 <Bluelight> What config parameter sets the size of the map og game creation? 11:17:55 <Bluelight> In the config file.. 11:18:20 <Eddi|zuHause> size is 2^map_x*2^map_y 11:18:52 <Bluelight> If I want 1024 in one direction what whould that be then? 11:19:05 <Eddi|zuHause> 2^10 11:19:20 <Eddi|zuHause> so map_x=10 11:19:42 <Eddi|zuHause> allowed range is 6..11 11:20:27 <Bluelight> So 11 is 2048? 11:20:32 <Bluelight> And 9 is 512? 11:20:44 <Alberth> @calc 2^11 11:20:44 <DorpsGek> Alberth: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 11:20:55 <Alberth> @calc 2**11 11:20:55 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 2048 11:20:56 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2**11 11:20:56 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2048 11:21:17 <Alberth> seems that way :) 11:21:24 <Bluelight> Cool 11:21:31 <Bluelight> Thanks a lot.. :) 11:21:52 <Alberth> that will be 5 euro 11:22:02 <Bluelight> He he he.... 11:25:20 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.98.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:13 *** Uresu [~Wes@5ace7bdb.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:29:33 *** Uresu [~Wes@5ace7bdb.bb.sky.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:42:24 *** DaZ_ [~ident-dwa@dsr81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [??? 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That could be an advantage for them... (for city mass transit use) 12:53:01 <peter1138> that is already possible, yes 12:53:59 *** DaZ [~ident-dwa@dsr81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:54:03 *** DaZ [~ident-dwa@dsr81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:54:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i wish it said the loading speed in the buy window 12:56:28 <peter1138> i was thinking that 12:56:37 <peter1138> not sure how to express it 12:58:01 <Nite_Owl> how is it expressed in the nfo code 12:58:16 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:32 <Nite_Owl> i.e. - does a certain value equal a certain speed 12:59:33 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01:15 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:01:18 <Nite_Owl> then a certain range of values would be considered slow, the next up slightly less slow, etc. 13:01:47 <Rubidium> but what is slow? 13:01:59 <Rubidium> what's fast for a RV can be slow for a ship 13:02:52 <Rubidium> what about 'n' per day? 13:02:58 <Nite_Owl> Ahhh - so then the values are global across all vehicle types 13:03:20 <frosch123> compute mean, median, standard derivation, and use the quantiles to express the speed :p 13:05:51 <Nite_Owl> can that be done in the background and then have something a bit more meaningful expressed to the player 13:07:14 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d8228d6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:45 <Nite_Owl> anyone know if Galactic Civilizations II is a worthwhile game 13:10:07 <|Terkhen|> I still have to find a 4x MOO-like game better than MOO 2 :/ 13:10:12 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 13:10:16 * Nite_Owl is updating his software library to fit the new PC 13:10:56 <Nite_Owl> I still have MOO 2 but have yet to see if it will work on Windows 7 13:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> moo2 works best in dosbox 13:11:30 <Nite_Owl> I did get Civilization III to work 13:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause> we even played multiplayer a few weeks ago 13:12:06 <Nite_Owl> I have a Windows 95 version of MOO 2 13:12:25 <Nite_Owl> actually I think it is both 95 and DOS 13:14:15 <Nite_Owl> I was also looking at F1 games, I have Grand Prix 3, and was looking to get Grand Prix 4. Amazon has it for 0.00 !!!! 13:14:23 <Terkhen> anyone has tried FreeOrion? 13:15:02 <Nite_Owl> never heard of it (activates Google) 13:15:24 <Terkhen> I'll try it after exams 13:15:33 <Terkhen> I miss that kind of games 13:16:13 <frosch123> moo2 works best in 98 vm :p 13:17:44 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite_Owl: yes, the only difference between win95 and dos moo2 is the .exe, the CD contains both 13:18:05 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e440:e2f5:c89f:332b] has joined #openttd 13:18:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:18:31 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: have you tried multiplayer over network before you judged "best"? 13:18:47 *** DaZ_ [~ident-dwa@dtf235.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:19:20 <frosch123> i player it multiplayer only once, and i concluded that turn-based games are not suitable for multiplayer 13:20:33 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: well, i tend to be the one that finishes the turn last... so it's kind of beneficial for me to have turn based games ;) 13:21:03 <Eddi|zuHause> on real time games i tend to be crushed by people who control the game more efficiently... 13:21:33 <Rubidium> turn based openttd :) 13:21:44 <SpComb> PBIMTTD 13:21:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: well, i just don't play multiplayer openttd ;) 13:22:09 * SpComb doesn't play competitive multiplayer openttd 13:22:24 <SpComb> co-op with a friend is fine though 13:22:31 <SpComb> although that does have certain conflicts 13:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i suggested to the people cooperative openttd, but they weren't convinced... 13:23:06 *** DaZ [~ident-dwa@dsr81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:10 <SpComb> it can be a pain if you have a couple people playing with different styles 13:23:34 <peter1138> coop openttd can be fun 13:23:37 <peter1138> not openttdcoop though ;p 13:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the others were not really experienced 13:24:20 <SpComb> well, even openttdcoop has some variation on their styles 13:24:39 <SpComb> not all their games are the same 13:24:52 <SpComb> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametypes 13:25:25 <peter1138> IS2+CD is basicaly designed for coop play, heh 13:25:26 <SpComb> (e.g. http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:Eye_Candy ) 13:25:51 <SpComb> peter1138: well, if you can get the people to build some kind of cohesive networks together 13:25:58 <SpComb> it requires some rules/leadership/discipline 13:26:37 <peter1138> has to be people you know, of course 13:29:08 <Ammler> yes, that is why openttdcoop needs the rules, some rules are also like tips for newbies 13:29:09 <Eddi|zuHause> we also tried MAX multiplayer, but one of the people got really pissed about it really fast, so we stopped :p 13:30:25 <peter1138> MAX? 13:30:45 <Ammler> 16 companies? 13:31:16 <SpComb> I really liked the game I played with a friend over christmas, but the way that basically ended up working out was me playing the absolute dictator, so it's not that great a concept :P 13:33:09 <Ammler> he, that is how the public openttdcoop games work too, just you elect the dictator at game start (plan) :-) 13:36:12 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.98.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 13:36:16 <SpComb> except in this case there's no plan, the focus is on organic growth :P 13:36:18 <roboboy> gnight 13:37:15 <peter1138> my game plan: find larger cities, build a route between them, preferably encompassing smaller towns 13:38:00 <SpComb> this is with DBSetXL + 4x daylength thrown in... game starting in 1921 13:42:21 <Nite_Owl> Free Orion is not worth it yet - still in early Alpha 13:42:25 <SpComb> so a painfully slow game 13:43:20 <Nite_Owl> many feature not yet even implimented - screen shots look nice though 13:43:28 <Nite_Owl> *features 13:44:20 <Nite_Owl> The only thing that makes me question Galactic Civilizations II is the lack of tactical combat 13:45:19 <Terkhen> I'll have to keep waiting then 13:45:26 <Nite_Owl> other than that it looks fine and is fairly cheap 13:47:27 <Nite_Owl> I also have a real good attack copter sim that I have see if I can get working 13:47:49 <Nite_Owl> plus redownloading all of the add ons 13:48:17 <Eddi|zuHause> <peter1138> MAX? <- you don't know "M.A.X. - Mechanized Assault and Exploration"? 13:51:28 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hans@87.196.187.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:52:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18822 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Rename YAPF-related container classes and their members to better fit other container classes. (skidd13) 13:53:58 *** JVassie^ [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:58:17 <SpComb> but more players != good, always 13:58:36 <SpComb> and Singaporekid needs to learn how to not build track that blocks D: 13:58:41 <SpComb> a bunch of his stations are deadlocked 13:58:52 <Singaporekid> but 13:59:21 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18823 /trunk/src/misc/ (array.hpp fixedsizearray.hpp): -Codechange: Some uints for unsigned ints. (skidd13) 14:06:30 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hans@87.196.187.106] has joined #openttd 14:10:24 *** evilNirvana [~z@219-90-147-209.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:12:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18824 /trunk/src/misc/ (array.hpp fixedsizearray.hpp): -Codechange: Turn some public members into protected ones. 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(skidd13) 14:23:55 <evilNirvana> wow 14:24:04 <evilNirvana> i'ts compiling first try 14:24:15 <evilNirvana> i must have done something wrong 14:24:26 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: was that an undeduplication? :p 14:24:40 <Rubidium> yeah, you've either followed the manual or you're not using Windows 14:25:36 <evilNirvana> Rubidium: Linux-Debian, and i just wget && tar zxf && ./configure --enable-dedicated && make 14:26:01 <evilNirvana> and it's working. ._. 14:26:09 <glx> of course it works 14:26:14 <evilNirvana> wait 14:26:15 <Eddi|zuHause> evilNirvana: occasionally you want to make sure you have stuff like zlib-devel installed 14:26:20 <evilNirvana> i ctrl-c'd it 14:26:35 <evilNirvana> forgot to tell it to use 8 threads 14:26:58 <evilNirvana> Eddi|zuHause: i have zlib. i do IRCd devel and a lot of compiling 14:27:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i think zlib is the only really vital dependency, everything else should be fairly optional 14:27:53 <evilNirvana> [SRC] Compiling window.cpp 14:27:54 <evilNirvana> [SRC] Linking openttd 14:27:54 <evilNirvana> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ottd/openttd-1.0.0-beta2/objs/release' 14:27:54 <evilNirvana> ottd@rachael:~/openttd-1.0.0-beta2$ 14:27:54 <Eddi|zuHause> especially for dedicated 14:27:56 <evilNirvana> wow 14:28:12 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-20-35.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:31 <Eddi|zuHause> but ./configure should tell you hints about optional stuff that is missing 14:28:56 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: configure fails fatally if you don't have zlib (and recently liblzo2) and you don't use --without-zlib / --without-liblzo2 14:29:26 <glx> beta1 and beta2 are not impacted by liblzo2 14:29:59 <evilNirvana> make clean all install -j8 14:30:04 <evilNirvana> heh 14:30:30 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:46 <glx> no need to install :) 14:31:17 <evilNirvana> but 14:31:18 <evilNirvana> but 14:31:21 <evilNirvana> my prefix! 14:31:24 <evilNirvana> :'( 14:31:34 <glx> you didn't set it in configure? 14:31:46 <evilNirvana> i did 14:33:02 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has joined #openttd 14:33:02 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:03 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 14:35:23 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-20-35.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:36:18 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:36:55 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@112.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 14:37:02 *** Terkhen is now known as Guest2375 14:37:03 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 14:39:20 *** Guest2375 [~Terkhen@112.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:45:22 *** Tepo99 [~Tepo99@82.100.0.235] has joined #openttd 14:45:38 *** eoin is now known as Eoin 14:45:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FFCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:46 <Tepo99> hi 14:46:33 *** Tepo99 [~Tepo99@82.100.0.235] has quit [] 14:46:33 <Alberth> hi 14:52:24 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-44-188.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 14:54:40 *** Goulp [Goulp@d96dc522.fsp.oleane.fr] has joined #openttd 14:57:52 *** Goulp [Goulp@d96dc522.fsp.oleane.fr] has quit [] 15:06:55 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hans@87.196.187.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:29 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-199-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Something strange must have happened...] 15:11:35 <SpComb> Singaporekid: Duckship 15:11:45 <Singaporekid> D: 15:11:59 <evilNirvana> D: 15:13:09 <jonty-comp> :D 15:16:03 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@149.97.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 15:21:58 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 15:22:54 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:23:05 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r18827 /trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp: -Fix: Center main window using smallmap widget edge coordinates. 15:25:09 *** blathijs_ [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 15:25:47 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 15:40:19 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:54 *** kasuga [~osaka@81.28.174.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:26 *** |Terkhen| [kvirc@vpn5118.ugr.es] has joined #openttd 15:53:12 *** Terkhen is now known as Guest2387 15:53:12 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 15:59:19 *** Guest2387 [~Terkhen@112.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:35 *** lobstah is now known as lobster 16:03:10 *** kasuga [~osaka@188.122.254.222] has joined #openttd 16:45:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18828 /trunk/src/misc/fixedsizearray.hpp: -Fix (r18823): Decrementing uints is different to ints. 16:52:16 <Hirundo> what are the units of TIC/TOC? (profiling macros) 16:54:19 <Rubidium> CPU ticks 16:54:34 <Rubidium> i.e. clock cycles 16:55:12 <Hirundo> so there are around 2.5*10^9 of those per second on the average PC? 16:55:36 <arachnist> depends on what you call an average pc 16:55:36 <peter1138> no, only on the PC that was measured on 16:56:14 <peter1138> you can use it for comparing benchmarks from a single machine 16:56:18 <Rubidium> and whether the cpu runs at max speed or in speedstep/coolnquiet etc. mode 16:56:20 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:22 <peter1138> results from different machines are meaningless 16:56:47 <peter1138> well, mostly 16:57:04 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:58:54 <Hirundo> I'm not intending to do any cross-PC benchmarking, just trying to translate LARGE_NUMBER into something I can comprehend 16:59:28 <evilNirvana> LARGE_NUMBER is what, 16:59:43 <Rubidium> cpu cycles isn't comprehendable? 17:01:31 <Rubidium> now converting the number of cpu cycles into number of ops... that would be interesting :) 17:29:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:35:53 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:04 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm70.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:44:10 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 17:47:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18829 /trunk/src/mixer.cpp: -Codechange: Don't free memory from within audio mixer callback handler as it may be required to be real-time safe. 18:15:02 *** Mega [~Mega@188.90.225.54] has joined #openttd 18:18:26 <Mega> for anyone intreste we are playing a cargodist&IS patch online > see here how to join : http://clanmega.warlink.eu/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5 ;D cya 18:18:51 *** Mega [~Mega@188.90.225.54] has left #openttd [] 18:20:26 *** Uberubert [~chatzilla@89.9.55.95] has joined #openttd 18:20:58 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... the title screen could use what's known in the model railway as "shadow station" [i.e. secret underground paths that store lots of different trains who can pop out at random tunnel entrances] 18:21:36 <peter1138> they're called depots 18:21:48 <KenjiE20> we used to call them Fiddle Yards 18:22:03 <Rubidium> and the shadows are just whatever place is outside of the map 18:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: not entirely, because they can't magically jump to other depots 18:22:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: problem is, you have plenty of non-visible space on the top and left, but the bottom and right might eventually become visible on huge screens 18:22:52 <Bluelight> Yea, how does that work? 18:23:09 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:23:54 <Bluelight> Damn I'm tired.. :p 18:23:59 <Eddi|zuHause> and one can't timetable depot visits... 18:23:59 * Rubidium ponders whether he should design an intro game too 18:24:29 <Alberth> I was also considering doing that 18:24:34 <Eddi|zuHause> it'd be waaay more fun with grfs... 18:24:46 <peter1138> alas... 18:24:51 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but you already have 6 GRFs you can choose from! 18:24:52 <Eddi|zuHause> 80% of all new features are grf-related... 18:25:12 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i have two static newgrfs ;) 18:25:18 <peter1138> submit a patch to allow it ;) 18:27:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FFCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:05 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest2401 18:29:05 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:05 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 18:30:22 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 18:30:27 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: the two problems would be gracefully falling back to default graphics, and notifying the user to get the grfs from bananas 18:35:54 *** Guest2401 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:10 *** Uberubert [~chatzilla@89.9.55.95] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39:27 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@149.97.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:58 *** Uberubert [~chatzilla@95-55-9.connect.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 18:42:45 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r18830 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: croatian - 36 changes by 18:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 2 changes by jpx_ 18:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 1 changes by glx 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 changes by IPG 18:51:59 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B45C60.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:57 *** Uberubert [~chatzilla@95-55-9.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:20 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 19:08:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18831 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 19:08:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change [FS#3537]: do not go into the crashlog handler in case loading a 19:08:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: savegame misses with missing NewGRFs. This way the load game crash handler gets 19:08:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: better visibility and the user is instructed to find the missing NewGRFs before 19:08:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: filing a bug report 19:09:58 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@170.80-203-76.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 19:10:31 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@170.80-203-76.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:20:15 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 19:24:31 * peter1138 suspects there is no need for a jack audio driver 19:24:51 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B769.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25:07 <Rubidium> peter1138: doesn't sdl do that? 19:27:49 <peter1138> not in debian 19:27:55 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B769.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:48 <peter1138> it was easy to make one, but i don't see much point in actually adding it :) 19:39:17 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.253.120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:40:07 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 19:46:26 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DA632.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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I mainly start it up to run the linux version of Pianoteq. 20:01:57 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.253.120] has joined #openttd 20:02:04 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:04:00 <peter1138> pianoteq is good stuff 20:04:58 <PeterT> Terkhen here? 20:05:03 <Terkhen> yes 20:05:08 <Terkhen> Terkhen is here 20:05:10 <PeterT> I'm testing your batch scripts now 20:05:17 <PeterT> wanna go into another channel? 20:05:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "1 x AMD PC QUAD PHENOM 9650 4GB 500GB 9500GT-1GB Computer" <-- how much do you think is that worth nowadays? 20:06:59 <Bluelight> Kr. 8.000,- 20:07:15 <Eddi|zuHause> Bluelight: not sure if that tells me anything :p 20:07:54 <thingwath> norwegian money, obviously 20:09:36 <Eddi|zuHause> 8000 Norwegische Kronen = 979,641986 Euro <-- that's a little much, don't you think? 20:10:16 <Eddi|zuHause> last time i saw a computer worth 1000 euro, the euro did not even exist... 20:11:22 <peter1138> a lot cost that 20:11:25 <peter1138> but not worth it 20:11:51 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, the offer is 360EUR, and i want to know if that's fair 20:13:15 <thingwath> I'd buy it for that price. :) Even though... is there any warranty? 20:13:51 <heffer> i'd go for 420EUR :D 20:14:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd expect so, looks like a commercial offer to me... 20:14:49 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has joined #openttd 20:14:54 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:5ae3:813a::1] has joined #openttd 20:15:24 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:5ae3:813a::1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:38 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 20:16:38 *** guru3_ is now known as guru 20:25:27 *** Goulp [Goulp@d96dc540.fsp.oleane.fr] has joined #openttd 20:26:21 *** Goulp [Goulp@d96dc540.fsp.oleane.fr] has quit [] 20:30:45 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:33:34 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.253.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:13 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.240.173] has joined #openttd 20:39:19 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:21 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.53] has joined #openttd 20:51:29 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B45C60.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:02 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18832 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: some indentation whitespace. 20:54:43 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18833 /trunk/src/mixer.cpp: -Cleanup: Const-ness and style 21:00:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B769.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:22 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@170.80-203-76.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 21:05:48 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:4e33:b5bf:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has joined #openttd 21:10:08 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:30 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:54 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 21:12:44 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e33:328c:1:2187:3d74:9396:305d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:12:44 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 21:13:47 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B45C60.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:39 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B769.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:38:19 <Rhamphoryncus> my computer's a quad 9550. Twice the ram but no dedicated video card 21:42:29 *** gathers [~gathers@c80-216-141-218.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 21:58:27 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:59:35 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:47 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18834 /trunk/src/ (fileio.cpp network/core/os_abstraction.h): -Fix [FS#3538]: compilation failed on OpenBSD (matze) 22:05:36 <Tera> okey there's something weird in the Oil Refinerys catchment area. 22:06:07 <Tera> if I build a station 3 blocks away from it, it catches good but not oil. 2 blocks away it accepts oil as well. 22:06:19 <Tera> s/good/goods 22:06:33 <Rubidium> only a few tiles of the whole refinery accept the oil, not all tiles 22:07:01 <Tera> is that intended? 22:07:24 <frosch123> use the landarea-information tool under the questionmark to discover which tiles 22:07:53 <Tera> thanks. I figured it out already. I'm just wondering is this intended ;) I guess so 22:10:04 <Tera> too bad you can't refit airplanes to oil, hah 22:10:31 <Tera> although it's not that unrealistic as there are tanker planes. 22:10:59 <fjb> They are usually not used to transport oil to a refinery. 22:11:42 <fjb> Some planes of av8 are refittable to everything. 22:15:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r18835 /trunk/src/mixer.cpp: -Fix: Large sounds could still cause an overflow with high sample rates, causing them to be cut off. 22:16:40 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18836 /trunk/src/ (rail_cmd.cpp train.h train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: make TrainUpdateSpeed a class function and update some comments (Terkhen) 22:16:49 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:07 <peter1138> (i.e. if samplerate was higher than 65535... heh) 22:17:25 <Rubidium> oh... you need 96000 Hz? 22:17:50 *** kasuga [~osaka@188.122.254.222] has quit [Quit: ???????????? ???????] 22:18:02 <peter1138> i don't, but it's nice to make it work 22:18:09 <peter1138> 88200, 96000, 192000 etc ;) 22:19:17 *** Terkhen [kvirc@vpn5118.ugr.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:19:20 *** Terkhen [kvirc@vpn5118.ugr.es] has joined #openttd 22:19:23 *** re06011988 [~wanoo@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:19:51 <peter1138> actually i tend to run at 11025 22:20:13 <peter1138> i had crackly audio with 44100 sometimes 22:20:36 <peter1138> seems like sdl's audio stuff doesn't recover from xruns 22:20:42 <peter1138> either that or dodgy alsa drivers, i suppose 22:22:37 <peter1138> hehe, that sample rate conversion code is so dirty :) 22:22:46 <peter1138> still, nice and fast 22:24:15 *** re06011988 [~wanoo@vol21-2-82-226-46-162.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 22:26:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18837 /trunk/ (9 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Rename DrawStationTileSeq() to DrawCommonTileSeq() and move it to separate file. 22:26:39 <Eddi|zuHause> <peter1138> 88200, 96000, 192000 etc ;) <-- you want dogs to listen to your music? :p 22:26:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.180.31] has joined #openttd 22:26:46 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:27:24 <Tera> fjb: av8? 22:27:58 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, 192000 is a marketing gimmick, yes 22:28:25 <fjb> Tera: a plane grf. 22:28:42 <Tera> that makes sense 22:28:51 <Terkhen> using hg resolve, is there any way to show unresolved conflicts? 22:29:30 <Eddi|zuHause> hg status? 22:29:49 <Terkhen> I mean something like rej files when using patch 22:30:12 <Eddi|zuHause> the diff should contain ">>>>>>" and "<<<<<" lines 22:30:17 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18838 /trunk/src/ (settings.cpp table/settings.h train.h train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange [FS#3524]: reorganisation of the train acceleration code plus some minor optimisations (Terkhen) 22:30:45 <Terkhen> forget it, the conflicts are gone :P 22:30:57 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe :p 22:31:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i rarely deal with patches that are likely to conflict... 22:32:16 <Eddi|zuHause> my patches tend to be very short... 22:32:32 <Rubidium> mine too... after I commit them :) 22:32:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.190.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:37 <Xaroth> while(1) die(); 22:32:49 <Eddi|zuHause> once a patch of mine was committed after one year, and i totally forgot about it ;) 22:33:35 <Terkhen> :) 22:33:39 <Terkhen> I should make shorter patches too 22:34:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i had a patch that was valid over 10000 revisions with only three conflicts ever 22:34:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-90-142.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause> [the fourth being the patch made obsolete] 22:39:38 <Rubidium> let me guess, I broke it all of the times? 22:39:56 <peter1138> sprite.c is back! 22:40:10 <peter1138> after... 3 1/2 years of being gone 22:40:17 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: not sure about the third time... 22:41:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it was some renaming of a variable in a context line, but i don't remember what it was... 22:42:29 <peter1138> awww, spritegroup refcounting 22:42:32 <peter1138> those were the days 22:44:10 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: let's party :p 22:44:16 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18839 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: Detriplicate drawing of spritelayouts in the GUI. 22:44:26 <Eddi|zuHause> YAAAY \o/ 22:44:40 * Eddi|zuHause opens a bottle of Rotk?ppchen 22:45:06 <fjb> Igitt. 22:45:15 <Eddi|zuHause> screw you, r10000 party! 22:45:38 <Xaroth> o_O 22:45:58 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:49:34 *** AC6000 [~AC6000@242-174.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:50:10 * andythenorth coding snowy industries 22:50:17 <andythenorth> snowline can't go down to coast level, right? 22:50:43 <AC6000> i don't believe so.... 22:51:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe the wiki said something about "you can technically set this to 0, but _please_ don't do it as it'll cause a hell lot of glitches" 22:52:16 <andythenorth> that's fine, means no snow required for harbour etc 22:53:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r18840 /trunk/src/ (road_cmd.cpp table/road_land.h): -Codechange: Use DrawCommonTileSeq[InGUI] for roaddepot drawing. 22:53:21 <frosch123> andythenorth: what about rivers 22:53:30 <frosch123> sea is not necessarily at level 0 22:53:30 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: what if someone wants to build a harbour on a large river/lake? 22:53:55 <andythenorth> umm, and also canals. In fact, I haven't tested canals with the fishing harbour. No idea if they'll build 22:54:12 <andythenorth> I've never used rivers, so I tend to forget about them :o 22:54:22 <andythenorth> I should use rivers, they are a nice feature 22:54:31 <frosch123> if you use the watersprite as groundsprite of the industry tile, it will draw river/canal borders 22:55:18 *** kasuga [~osaka@188.122.254.222] has joined #openttd 22:56:57 <andythenorth> my harbour doesn't seem to build on canals. that's fine for me, wonder why though...? 22:57:26 <frosch123> correct slopes? 22:57:44 <frosch123> maybe you check for the slopes for shore-ness? 22:58:04 <peter1138> andythenorth, i think we made it check for height level 0 22:58:28 <andythenorth> that would make sense, and is fine in this case. I think it also checks the tile for both water & land (i.e. coast)? 22:58:33 <frosch123> so build a canal/river at sea-level :p 22:59:03 <andythenorth> yup am doing 22:59:33 <andythenorth> canals don't drag rects, just lines :| 22:59:43 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B45C60.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, found that, too... 23:00:15 <Eddi|zuHause> but rivers drag rects, not lines... 23:00:15 <peter1138> by design 23:00:36 <peter1138> i don't know what design... 23:00:50 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: looks like an arbitrary restriction to me... 23:00:55 <peter1138> quite 23:00:57 <Terkhen> at the scenario editor, canal do rectangles too 23:01:06 *** kasuga [~osaka@188.122.254.222] has quit [Quit: ???????????? ???????] 23:01:14 *** woldemar [~world@188.122.254.222] has joined #openttd 23:06:00 <andythenorth> flooding sea onto canal tiles is handled quite nicely 23:07:18 <andythenorth> good way to make port facilites eye candy 23:08:29 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, people have (ab)used that for a while ;) 23:11:24 * Terkhen uploads a smaller patch this time 23:11:28 <andythenorth> fishing harbour does build on rivers in the scenario editor 23:11:34 <andythenorth> so I guess we need snow after all 23:12:04 <andythenorth> for that Siberian Lake scenario I'm sure someone is working on 23:12:54 <andythenorth> rivers look kind of sucky, should I be searching for a newgrf to improve them? 23:15:03 <peter1138> there's about 1, i think 23:15:19 <peter1138> by mb. i think it's on grfcrawler 23:15:22 <Terkhen> i think it only worked in temperate 23:15:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, rivers(w).grf only works in temperate 23:15:54 <frosch123> opengfx also has nice rivers 23:16:00 <frosch123> for all climates :p 23:16:02 <Eddi|zuHause> but there was opengfx who also had rivers 23:16:46 <andythenorth> yup opengfx is much nicer 23:16:52 <andythenorth> for rivers 23:17:02 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:58 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the "problem" with opengfx rivers is that they have very straight shores 23:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause> especially the rectangular corners 23:20:11 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.53] has joined #openttd 23:34:08 <Terkhen> good night 23:34:11 *** Terkhen [kvirc@vpn5118.ugr.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:37:24 * AC6000 fires a spud gun 23:39:48 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DA632.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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