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00:03:36 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:03:43 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18944 /trunk/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): -Change [FS#3232]: use the highest version of an AI that can load the AI data from a savegame instead of the exact same version 00:05:19 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB5D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der bläht, als hinterster geht!] 00:11:42 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18945 /trunk/src/ (clear_cmd.cpp economy_type.h table/pricebase.h): -Codechange: typo 00:12:38 <SpComb^> although hmm, how can that even work 00:15:16 <SpComb^> I guess it just ends up reverting to the old behaviour... send the pax tothe next hop :( 00:15:42 <SpComb^> i.e. the pax don't actually go anywhere 00:16:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16:54 *** FauxFaux [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: GARBAGE COLLECTION TIME. BAD IRSSI.] 00:17:07 *** Spoons [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 00:17:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:49 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 00:29:54 <PeterT> what is the command for help with make bundle_*? 00:30:13 <Yexo> "make help" 00:30:24 <PeterT> thanks 00:30:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:35 <PeterT> make: *** No rule to make target `help'. Stop 00:30:48 <Yexo> did you ./configure first? 00:31:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:31:14 <PeterT> I'm entering the wrong commands, then 00:31:32 <PeterT> i tried make bundle instead of make -f makefile.msvc bundle platform==win32 00:33:54 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77A34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:03 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34:16 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 00:38:54 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:41:27 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 00:44:28 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-16-169.A149.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 00:44:44 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 00:47:36 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:5ae3:813a::1] has joined #openttd 00:48:00 *** DaZ [~lolhai@dta66.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 00:48:09 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:5ae3:813a::1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:21 *** DaZ_ [~lolhai@cmn93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:55:25 *** mib_44lgtu [58934aa4@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 00:57:54 <Bluelight> nn 00:58:02 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@216.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 01:00:31 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-166-26-81.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:40 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.63.208] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1] 01:03:34 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18946 /trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp: -Fix: it was possible to change AI settings without changing to the custom difficulty level by using the query text window 01:07:53 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-65-96-203-35.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:26 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16:39 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 01:49:59 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has quit [Quit: Penda] 01:51:51 *** octo_ [octo@if-loop.org] has joined #openttd 01:52:16 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> plasma.oftc.net quits: +michi_cc, jonty-comp, octo 01:52:33 *** Netsplit over, joins: jonty-comp 01:54:33 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 01:56:15 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 01:59:05 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 01:59:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 01:59:06 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59:24 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 02:08:39 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 02:33:10 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-252-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:33:21 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 02:42:38 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:36 *** JVassie^ [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:47:01 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host86-166-26-81.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47:16 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:52:06 <roboboy> is trying to apply a patch to trunk from a month ago likely to cause issues? 02:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> yes? 02:57:11 <Eddi|zuHause> roboboy: this is a useless question, as it depends heavily on the kind of patch... 02:59:00 <roboboy> a GUI patch? 02:59:40 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 03:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause> as long as it's using the new gui, it should be fine 03:03:03 <glx> were all the GUI rewrites finished a month ago? 03:03:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i think so, yes 03:03:28 <glx> hmm right for beta it was done 03:03:54 <Eddi|zuHause> more than 3 months might get you in trouble 03:04:13 <roboboy> ok 03:04:30 <roboboy> lets see if the patch I found compiles 03:07:04 <roboboy> nopes 03:13:03 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:30:08 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:30:27 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.201.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:35:40 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep. Would prefer to be playing more Mass Effect 2 though!] 03:41:47 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-44-51.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:44:23 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d87e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08:39 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:ac76:e102:70c4:a809] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:09:14 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.201.8] has joined #openttd 04:17:17 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.201.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:22:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:22:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:25:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74F53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:29:22 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75107.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:29:26 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:30:41 *** xi23 [~xi@78.110.223.65] has joined #openttd 04:30:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:34:07 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74F53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:35:44 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.201.8] has joined #openttd 04:46:32 *** Eddi|zuHause4 [~johekr@p54B74634.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:50:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:51:32 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75107.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:54:47 *** Eddi|zuHause4 [~johekr@p54B74634.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:58 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:4e34:db7e:1:7da2:8b5c:4ad6:c79f] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 05:30:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:39:59 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@132.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 06:40:11 <Terkhen> good morning 07:13:54 <peter1138> morning 07:16:59 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:19:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C90B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:24:46 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:30:39 *** steven [~steven@c-67-170-120-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:31:29 *** steven [~steven@c-67-170-120-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 07:31:45 *** mib_yp5qmy [43aa7809@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:32:39 *** mib_yp5qmy [43aa7809@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 07:34:27 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-44-51.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:54:09 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:13:35 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-f5f9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:15:19 <Zuu> Yexo: What is the point of forcing version match -1 (last version) "config->ChangeAI(argv[1], -1, true); " in console_cmds.cpp - line 1055? 08:17:33 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 08:21:56 <Zuu> Hmm, so you can write "<ai name>.<ai version>" in the console and then the force-flag make AIScanner::FindInfo to parse the string into two parts. 08:22:28 <Zuu> And if that version isn't found it picks the last available. 08:22:46 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:29:22 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-200-202.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:18 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-44-51.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43:59 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:47:22 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 08:47:43 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 08:47:56 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-41-158.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:48:38 <Zuu> Yexo: I hope you don't mind me creating a forum topic regarding your new feature. 08:48:57 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:05:25 <planetmaker> does he have a chance? :-D 09:06:11 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has joined #openttd 09:06:25 <Zuu> planetmaker: He is a moderator so he can remove the topic afterwards :-) 09:06:49 <planetmaker> :-) True. But he's far to kind to remove that kind of topic ;-) 09:06:53 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 09:07:11 <Zuu> hehe, yea I figured he probably wouldn't mind it. 09:07:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:38 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:07:40 <planetmaker> he.... today's one is nice: http://xkcd.com/695/ 09:08:37 <Zuu> hehe 09:09:01 <Zuu> Ouch, putting the coffe in after the water isn't a good idea as you easily get too much :-) 09:10:31 <Forked> poor little thing :\ 09:17:18 *** bartaway is now known as bartavelle 09:20:37 <bartavelle> yo 10:26:06 <roboboy> hello 10:28:34 <__ln__> bartavelle: away nicks are so 90's 10:30:10 <peter1138> planetmaker, it's sad 10:33:03 <__ln__> it is 10:36:39 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: you are right ;) 10:36:51 <bartavelle> i'm old what can i say 10:41:41 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c539.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:42:32 *** mib_wv86pq [5893478d@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:44:32 <SpComb^> we need a "Get Spirit Home" campaign 10:44:47 <TrueBrain> they had one ... any idea what they tried to get it unstuck? 10:45:14 <SpComb^> no, like a back to earth 10:45:25 <SpComb^> fundraising concerts and donation drives 10:45:34 <peter1138> that would need a lot of fundraising 10:45:39 <SpComb^> quite! 10:46:40 <SpComb^> "150EUR of 1200000000EUR raised" 10:47:02 <peter1138> probably more than EUR1.2 billion 10:56:44 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:57:32 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 11:16:21 *** Luukland [~Luukland@ip195-211-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:20:11 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:36:45 <lennard> coffee after.... thats not coffee, you barbaric... something! 11:39:52 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.63.208] has joined #openttd 11:41:12 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 11:48:14 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:01 *** Luukland [~Luukland@ip195-211-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [] 11:53:16 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:54:44 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-128-135.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:55 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-209-162.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:56:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:57:07 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 12:03:24 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:14 <Zuu> lennard: There are quite good instant coffee variants and there is really bad ones too. 12:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you need a waay bigger rocket to return from mars than to return from moon... 12:18:37 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbaa6a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:37 <Eddi|zuHause> especially the amount of rocket fuel you have to bring with you... 12:19:39 <planetmaker> delta v sucks 12:19:51 <planetmaker> sucks fuel like hell :-P 12:21:27 <TrueBrain> lol @ planetmaker 12:27:20 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 12:48:10 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:53:08 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 12:53:33 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 12:53:40 <Eddi|zuHause> well _someone_ could have made smaller planets :p 12:55:38 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: Hey, we just built it to the specs the mice gave us. 12:56:25 <Eddi|zuHause> you could have waited a year and the tech would have been half as big :p 12:57:04 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [] 12:57:30 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 12:57:44 <Prof_Frink> It was overbudget and overdue already, they couldn't wait any longer. 13:01:00 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [] 13:01:27 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 13:01:33 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1c8b:b0e1:cb83:8f6f] has joined #openttd 13:01:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:04:53 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has quit [Quit: Penda] 13:04:57 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [] 13:12:29 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 13:13:49 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-209-162.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:01 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-166-98.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:16:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:33:47 *** mib_wv86pq [5893478d@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:39:35 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:40:30 *** Penda [~Penda@host-83-166-20-174.hernonet.se] has joined #openttd 13:41:56 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbaa6a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:37 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:04:47 <Belugas> hello 14:05:29 <TrueBrain> hello Belugas :) 14:09:28 <Belugas> hey TrueBrain! 14:12:24 <TrueBrain> how is the old man doing this day? :) 14:14:53 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:16:13 <Eddi|zuHause> # Lebt denn der alte Holzmichel noch 14:16:26 <Eddi|zuHause> omg. bad song. go away. 14:21:22 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has joined #openttd 14:23:58 *** PhoenixII [~ralph@j104051.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:24:22 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@j104051.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 14:27:24 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29:18 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:57 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 14:35:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:36:25 <peter1138> http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/c3/IPad.jpg 14:36:59 <peter1138> (SFW) 14:37:23 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: There is no iPad. What apple have *actually* developed is a shrink-ray. 14:49:35 <SpComb^> hmm... the GlobalCargoAcceptance::inst object is somehow getting corrupted 14:57:21 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:59:05 <Luukland> Mr. Rubidium? May I query you? 14:59:21 <__ln__> Luukland: you didn't say "Sir". 14:59:26 <TrueBrain> why does that question only allow one reply? Hmmm 15:00:37 <Eddi|zuHause> in theoretical computer science, we call that "undecidable" :p 15:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it gets even more funny if you consider The List :p 15:02:06 <Belugas> TrueBrain, 'm fne, just.. busy, as always :) 15:02:09 <Belugas> meeting just ends 15:02:23 <SpComb^> hmm, gdb segfaults 15:03:36 <SpComb^> hark, the saveload code is corrupting the GlobalCargoAcceptance::inst object 15:03:49 <db48x> did you debug it to find out why? 15:04:06 <SpComb^> heh, no, it was me trying to print something silly 15:04:12 <db48x> ah 15:04:13 *** Timmaexx [~quassel@port-92-201-229-144.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:04:29 * SpComb^ prods fonsinchen 15:04:37 <SpComb^> this is inside linkgrap_sl :( 15:06:02 <SpComb^> hrmph, I don't know how the saveload code works 15:06:04 <db48x> cargo distribution patch? 15:06:14 <SpComb^> my builds 15:06:21 <SpComb^> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=851907#p851907 15:06:34 *** mib_74oea7 [5893478d@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:39 <db48x> ah, cool 15:08:32 <Luukland> Belugas? May I query you then, if Rubi is not here... 15:09:47 <Yexo> Luukland: as before, just ask whatever you want to ask. Don't ask to ask 15:10:02 <SpComb^> hmm... SlArray should never overwrite a object's member pointer value itself? 15:11:41 *** Fugas [~admin@isbprachen.clnet.cz] has joined #openttd 15:11:54 <SpComb^> http://paste.openttd.org/221091 <-- is there perhaps something immediately wrong here? 15:13:43 <SpComb^> seems SLArray has length=32 and mem_size=4 here 15:13:59 <SpComb^> whereas the CargoArray is 32 bytes 15:14:26 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:15:41 <TrueBrain> Luukland is and always will be a weirdo ... 15:15:51 <SpComb^> so it seems it's writing 32 U32's to a 32 U8 array? 15:16:06 <Yexo> SpComb^: not sure, but it looks wrong indeed 15:16:09 *** Timmaexx [~quassel@port-92-201-229-144.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:38 <SpComb^> NUM_CARGO = 32, struct CargoArray { uint amount[NUM_CARGO]; } 15:16:55 <SpComb^> so myes 15:17:00 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@216.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 15:19:46 <peter1138> where are you getting U8 from? 15:20:18 <Yexo> GlobalCargoAcceptance is missing a destructor though 15:20:20 <Yexo> that is a bug 15:20:32 <SpComb^> well, that's cleanup-at-shutdown :) 15:20:40 <Yexo> yes ;) 15:21:44 *** Fugas [~admin@isbprachen.clnet.cz] has left #openttd [] 15:25:36 <SpComb^> nasty bug to debug, but hardware watchpoints for global variables are awesome :) 15:29:11 <SpComb^> although, wtf, I see what peter1138 was saying now 15:29:23 <SpComb^> it's a 64-bit bug? 15:29:54 <Yexo> if sizeof(uint) > 4 then yes 15:30:02 <SpComb^> funky 15:32:18 <SpComb^> SLE_UINT = SLE_UINT32, 15:32:20 <SpComb^> tsk 15:33:06 <SpComb^> what's `uint` defined as? 15:33:34 <Yexo> dunno, check stdafx.h 15:36:54 <SpComb^> src/stdafx.h: typedef unsigned int uint; 15:41:25 <SpComb^> but I'm a little confused, why would loading 32-bit uints from the file into the array with 64-bit uints overflow it 15:45:54 <SpComb^> oh right, sizeof (int) == 4 even on 64-bit platforms 15:46:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18947 /trunk/src/ (ai/ai_gui.cpp newgrf_gui.cpp): -Fix [FS#1510]: after clicking move up/move down in the newgrf/ai the selected item could be out of range 15:49:23 <SpComb^> oh, it's just plain treating the CargoArray * itself as a 32-element array? 15:49:46 <Yexo> yes 15:50:30 <SpComb^> indeed 15:51:09 <peter1138> it's loading 32 * 32bit uints into 32 * 32bit uints 15:51:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18948 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Fix: removing a newgrf from the list didn't update the scrollbar 15:51:22 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 15:51:24 <SpComb^> peter1138: no, it's loading 32 * 32-bit uints into a 64-bit pointer, it seems 15:52:55 <peter1138> why do you say that? 15:53:07 <SpComb^> 602 case SLE_VAR_U32: *(uint32*)ptr = val; break; 15:53:07 <SpComb^> (gdb) p ptr 15:53:07 <SpComb^> = (void *) 0xd17860 15:53:07 <SpComb^> (gdb) p &GlobalCargoAcceptance::inst 15:53:07 <SpComb^> = (GlobalCargoAcceptance *) 0xd17860 15:53:58 <peter1138> ah yes, SLE_CONDARR wants a static array 15:53:59 <SpComb^> or more accurately, &GlobalCargoAcceptance::inst.acceptance -> (CargoArray **) 0xd17860, but it's the same pointer value 15:54:05 <peter1138> why does it even allocate that? 15:54:13 <SpComb^> questionable 15:54:14 <peter1138> CargoArray acceptance; 15:54:17 <SpComb^> indeed 15:54:20 <peter1138> CargoArray current_tile_loop 15:54:25 <peter1138> then remove the constrctor 15:59:54 <SpComb^> need to think straight when reading the saveload code 16:01:22 *** Oddstr13 [oddstr13@c1F8D5AC1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm118.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 16:06:15 *** Oddstr13 [oddstr13@c1F8D5AC1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 16:06:45 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbaa6a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:52 <SpComb^> fonsinchen: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=851991#p851991 16:09:15 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D970C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:24 <fonsinchen> uh, interesting ... 16:11:01 <fonsinchen> thanks for the report. What is it doing there? 16:11:19 <SpComb^> it's loading the GlobalCargoAcceptance data from the savegame 16:11:23 <fonsinchen> ah, I see 16:11:42 <peter1138> just get rid of the pointers and the constructor 16:11:43 <SpComb^> you should consider changing the CargoArray *'s to just plain static CargoArray objects, it should work then 16:11:44 <fonsinchen> I have to derefer that pointer before loading/saving 16:12:14 <fonsinchen> yes, it's probably better; Swap will be slower then, but it doesn't matter so much 16:15:12 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:36 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:54 <Belugas> ho so NOT fun... 3 colleagues drooling to the point of nausea on the iPad... 16:34:03 <Belugas> makes me feel sick 16:34:22 <TrueBrain> the name alone ... I have to laugh every time I read it 16:34:44 <TrueBrain> how did it went in the Apple office: "Guys, how to name this new product?" - "iPad!" - "GENIOUS! HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT! WE TAKE IT! IT IS PERFECT!" 16:34:48 <Belugas> yeah.. every 28 days, the screen goes red 16:34:49 <[Jako]> perfect platform to play openttd :) 16:34:53 <[Jako]> if it had buttons 16:35:19 <[Jako]> and if you actually could install openttd into it 16:35:27 * lobster does radio at http://radio.zernebok.com:8080/ 16:35:32 <[Jako]> apple says, denied 16:35:42 <lobster> an eclectic music mix, for all 16:36:01 *** rait [~rait@82.131.26.58.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:04 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:09 *** rait [~rait@82.131.124.8.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:49:34 <SpComb^> fonsinchen: give me a heads-up once you push a fix, so I can do a new build 16:49:52 <SpComb^> (doesn't one love this lingo?) 16:49:57 <Eddi|zuHause> yay... process is using 240% CPU \o/ :p 16:50:08 <SpComb^> Eddi|zuHause: how many CPUs? 16:50:14 <Eddi|zuHause> 4 16:50:19 <SpComb^> normal then 16:50:47 <peter1138> he's just showing off 16:50:49 <fonsinchen> I already have a fix. I'm just merging it all together. Might take a minute or two 16:52:14 <Eddi|zuHause> but the noise... 16:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm really going to send it back... 16:52:38 <Eddi|zuHause> but before that, i'm doing all my video converting jobs that were left around :p 16:52:47 <SpComb^> Eddi|zuHause: who did you buy it from? 16:53:03 <Eddi|zuHause> some company who offered it on ebay 16:53:11 <SpComb^> huh 16:53:31 <SpComb^> sounds like a worse idea than just buying the bits yourself 16:53:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a commercial offer, so they have to take it back... 16:54:04 <SpComb^> eBay doesn't really say much in terms of any induvidual seller's reputation to me 16:57:08 <fonsinchen> I should have bought a faster CPU ... 16:57:28 <fonsinchen> Or I should rework my merging/test-compiling makefile 17:01:26 <SpComb^> you test-build each merge separately? 17:03:15 <fonsinchen> yes. I can switch it off, but generally it shows problems better than just the merging 17:03:48 <fonsinchen> it's all automated with my "gitmake"-Script 17:04:05 <SpComb^> yes, I was reading that (it's in your git repo) 17:04:36 <SpComb^> good use of make 17:08:16 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@226.160.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:53 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 17:10:25 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 17:10:55 <fonsinchen> SpComb^: I've pushed it 17:18:25 * SpComb^ powers up his VM 17:21:56 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 17:21:58 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 17:22:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 17:23:02 <SpComb^> should install openssh onto my VM and then integrate that into some nice makefile... 17:25:04 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.159] has joined #openttd 17:25:27 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [] 17:28:39 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 17:28:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 17:28:44 *** bartavelle is now known as bartaway 17:30:03 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:34:06 <SpComb^> post'd 17:39:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe941.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:00 *** Cybertinus is now known as Guest171 17:47:33 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:49:40 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49:52 *** michi_cc [root@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 17:49:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 17:50:20 *** michi_cc [root@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [] 17:55:20 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 17:55:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 17:55:35 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 17:55:43 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18949 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r18942): 'reduced plane crashes' were actually 'more plane crashes' 17:58:27 <Yexo> TrueBrain: openttd.org (all pages) gives a 500 Internal server error 17:58:41 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:59:18 <TrueBrain> Yexo: let me check 17:59:43 <Yexo> opendune.org too btw :p 17:59:50 <SpComb^> broke'd 18:00:00 <SpComb^> paste.openttd.org still works :) 18:00:09 <Yexo> paste is a different server 18:00:13 <SpComb^> quite 18:00:22 <Belugas> burp 18:03:10 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm118.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:03:28 <TrueBrain> some lameass is hammering the httpd 18:03:56 <Belugas> can you fire back? 18:03:56 <TrueBrain> and for some reason my iptable rule doesn't want to do its job 18:04:50 <TrueBrain> there are just 1000 connections open to lighttpd :p 18:04:57 <TrueBrain> nginx is doing its job .. the other httpds are failing :p 18:04:59 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 18:05:13 <SpComb^> for what content? 18:06:02 <TrueBrain> some kind of spider 18:06:05 <TrueBrain> badly programmed 18:06:33 <TrueBrain> he requested 130k pages in 2 hours 18:06:44 <SpComb^> a user-agent? 18:06:59 <TrueBrain> conflicting data .. Mozilla, but MSIE 18:07:57 <TrueBrain> good to see the binaries load balancer did its work perfectly under stress too :) 18:08:10 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:08:38 <TrueBrain> haha, it was spidering all the different languages :) LOL! 18:10:24 <TrueBrain> I wonder if it is worth the time to figure out why nginx started to stop working for other httpds while waiting for some httpds to reply .. 18:10:45 <TrueBrain> in other words, if it should limit the amount of connections to a httpd in order to preserve functionality 18:12:19 <TrueBrain> IP from China, lol 18:12:56 <Alberth> building their own google 18:13:41 <TrueBrain> dunno .. how ever it might be, it is a single IP with only httpd requests .. 18:13:58 <TrueBrain> all pages should work again btw 18:14:15 <SpComb^> I had to do a little robots.txt tuning after I got 500k hits from google in a week 18:14:18 <Alberth> may just as easily be a single person running a mirror script 18:14:29 <TrueBrain> SpComb^: we have very strict robots.txt, but this user was ignoring that 18:15:01 <SpComb^> googlebot was following all of the per-line links in the irclogs.. 18:15:28 <TrueBrain> our whole binaries are offlimits for any bot, for example 18:18:42 <TrueBrain> lol ... 16MiB of http requests after the block ... 18:18:46 <TrueBrain> 264k requests 18:18:50 <TrueBrain> in what .. 10 minutes? :p 18:19:35 <Rubidium> that's more than the previous time 18:20:45 <TrueBrain> 300k 18:20:52 <TrueBrain> so ... 15k per minute? 18:20:54 <TrueBrain> @calc 15000 / 60 18:20:54 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 250 18:20:58 <TrueBrain> that is a nice rate ... 18:21:18 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 18:21:19 <planetmaker> lol @ r18949 18:21:21 <TrueBrain> I am not _that_ suprised our httpds could not serve pages at that rate ;) 18:21:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18950 /trunk/ (bin/ai/regression/regression.txt src/settings.cpp): -Fix: make sure the values of settings loaded from a savegame are valid 18:30:55 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has joined #openttd 18:30:55 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:56 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:34:09 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 18:34:53 *** APTX| [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:27 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 18:38:40 <TrueBrain> whoho, he stopped trying 18:43:10 *** woldemar [~world@213.178.34.57] has quit [Quit: ???????????? ???????] 18:45:23 <Eddi|zuHause> that guy has a very suspect quitmessage :p 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r18951 /trunk/src/lang/ (14 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: czech - 8 changes by ReisRyos 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 6 changes by Yexo 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 4 changes by jpx_ 18:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 4 changes by glx 18:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: german - 4 changes by planetmaker 18:52:19 <Belugas> he's the culprit! 18:53:49 <Eddi|zuHause> http://tissi.apina.biz/full/26453.jpg 18:54:31 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 18:54:38 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:56:24 <Bluelight> Damn, I can't find my server in the server list again.. 18:57:00 <Bluelight> The serverwindow say "advertising on master server successful" 18:57:45 <Eddi|zuHause> the list might take a few minutes to refresh 19:02:54 <TrueBrain> I wonder if he has a chinese IP .. :p 19:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you have geo-ip :) 19:06:19 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbaa6a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:16 <TrueBrain> @calc 574343 / 24 / 60 / 60 19:10:16 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 6.64748842593 19:10:26 <TrueBrain> almost 7 hits per second our httpd handles in normal situations :) 19:14:44 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 19:15:22 *** Phalax [~kvirc@84.19.128.89] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090520, built on: 2009/06/08 19:18:46 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:15:52 *** Phalax [~kvirc@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 19:26:39 <Eddi|zuHause> so it was only out by 3500%? :p 19:26:54 <TrueBrain> nginx can handle up to 1024 connections 19:26:58 <TrueBrain> lighttpd stops after 50 connections 19:27:01 <TrueBrain> there is an issue :p 19:27:13 <TrueBrain> and the nginx backoff algorithm seems less than optimal :p 19:30:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C90B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:02 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-41-158.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:07 <Bluelight> Still nothing.. turned off my firewall, maybe that will help.. 19:32:26 <Bluelight> But why does it say it advertised successfully and then not show up? 19:32:28 <TrueBrain> else advertise again :) 19:32:39 <Bluelight> Shouldnt there be an error message or something? 19:32:39 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 19:32:46 <TrueBrain> because after advertising, your server is queried. If that works, it shows up 19:33:08 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:33:09 <Bluelight> Yeah I see a lot of numbers.. 19:33:49 <Bluelight> dbg: [net] [udp] quered from 'bla.bla.bla.bla' 19:34:01 <TrueBrain> then you are on the list :) 19:34:26 <Bluelight> Why can't I see it on the website list then? Weird.. 19:34:35 <TrueBrain> IP? 19:34:59 <Bluelight> 80.203.77.216 19:35:17 <Bluelight> Please don't hack me or anything.. :p 19:35:28 <jonty-comp> aww 19:35:45 <TrueBrain> yes, we hack you immediatly 19:35:57 <Bluelight> I know where you live. Muahahaha!! 19:36:14 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like you can't see the IP by a simple /whois 19:36:34 <Bluelight> Ohh.. bugger.. 19:37:10 <Bluelight> So if you are on IRC you get more of a trarget for hackers? 19:37:15 <TrueBrain> server_id 25714, last online: today 18:43 (UTC) 19:37:17 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... why is copying over smb on a 100mbit connection only 6MB/s? 19:37:51 <TrueBrain> last advertisement received: 19:30 (UTC) 19:38:10 <Bluelight> And what is the time now? 19:38:19 <Eddi|zuHause> 19:38 UTC 19:38:20 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: your fs keeps room for additional traffic :p 19:38:22 <Bluelight> Where do you see this stufF? 19:38:30 <TrueBrain> I have a magic ball 19:38:37 <Bluelight> He he.. 19:38:45 <Bluelight> Crystal ball.. :) 19:38:47 <TrueBrain> either way .. try re-advertising, make sure you allow: 19:38:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's not broken for once? 19:38:49 <TrueBrain> @openttd port 19:38:49 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 19:38:52 <Eddi|zuHause> wow. 19:39:11 <Alberth> TrueBrain comes prepared :) 19:39:27 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I bought 100 of them last time .. hoped that would solve the issue 19:39:59 <Bluelight> He he.. 19:40:15 <Eddi|zuHause> you could use the working one to increase the probability of finding another working one! 19:40:23 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 19:40:45 <Bluelight> Whats error 10054? 19:41:27 <TrueBrain> http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/WSK-19980714-EM01.htm 19:41:47 <TrueBrain> (google is such a powerful tool!) 19:42:12 <TrueBrain> either way, the port is open, but there is no OpenTTD server replying to requests of the updater 19:43:42 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 19:45:28 *** snorre [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:00 <Bluelight> I'm still unable to find on that server list page.. :p 19:47:10 <TrueBrain> yes, because the updater can't find your game 19:47:27 <Bluelight> Ohh.. Why not? 19:47:59 <peter1138> 19:42 < TrueBrain> either way, the port is open, but there is no OpenTTD server replying to requests of the updater 19:47:59 <Bluelight> Do I have to join the game first? 19:48:55 <Bluelight> How is that possible? The game is working.. :p 19:49:08 <TrueBrain> are you running an unmodified version? 19:49:27 <TrueBrain> as you are sending invalid data back to the updater 19:49:43 <TrueBrain> so either what ever is on port 3979 is not an OpenTTD server, or you have a modified version 19:51:10 <Belugas> or you have a modified version of something that is not OpenTTD server 19:51:58 <Bluelight> Ehh.. I just have OpenTTD 0.7.5 19:52:11 <Bluelight> No modifications.. other then the config file.. 19:52:34 <TrueBrain> this is all I can tell you. The updater contacts your server, gets some weird reply, marks your server as offline, and tries again some minutes later to repeat the process 19:52:35 * Belugas would look at the port forwarding 19:52:57 <TrueBrain> given the amount of online 0.7.5 servers, it has to be a local issue 19:52:59 <Bluelight> I heard something about the server not working on a network with several computers connected on LAN.. 19:53:27 <TrueBrain> complete bullshit; if you configured your NAT (port forwarding) correctly, it is not an issue 19:53:42 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: "If" ;-) 19:53:43 <TrueBrain> if you did that wrong, or you received another IP or what ever from your (then broken) router, things break 19:53:54 <planetmaker> So... only bullshit, if there's bullshit around. :-P 19:54:10 <planetmaker> err.. ...no bullshit around... 19:54:24 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: well, I can configure NATs to fuck up when you connect multiple computers, so yeah, there is something in it .. still it is bullshit :) 19:54:31 <Belugas> so in these situations, you'd better cover up your ass(es) 19:54:33 <Belugas> hohohoh 19:54:48 <planetmaker> he :-) 19:55:09 <Bluelight> Hmm.. Maybe my local IP has changed but I doubt it.. 19:55:31 <Bluelight> No, it's still 10.0.0.2 19:56:12 <Bluelight> But the port should be open since I get query's and advertised successfully message? 19:56:37 <TrueBrain> well, you see a query, you don't see what you reply on it ;) 19:56:42 <planetmaker> hm... might there be issues, if you have computers in your LAN which all want to connect to a local server, thus all connect to the same global IP? 19:56:51 <planetmaker> e.g. port-forwarding may only work for one machine 19:57:11 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: it should only work for one machine :) 19:57:24 <TrueBrain> you manual push a hole in your firewall on the router, allowing traffic to travel to one machine 19:57:28 <Bluelight> No, you specify wich IP in the NAT config.. 19:57:30 <TrueBrain> unless you use that upnp bullshit 19:57:32 <TrueBrain> then all hope is lost :) 19:57:51 <planetmaker> yeah. So two clients and a server in the local LAN, connected via NAT to the I-Net... 19:57:54 <TrueBrain> (in which case, planetmaker, you are btw right, and the story Bluelight heard is right ;)) 19:58:00 <planetmaker> ... might turn out bad :-) 19:58:09 <TrueBrain> only if the NAT fucks up ;) 19:58:16 <planetmaker> :-) 19:58:24 <TrueBrain> (I run for the last 10 years setups like that, never an issue :)) 19:58:26 <Bluelight> So I should get a better ruter+ 19:58:29 <Bluelight> +=? 19:58:36 <TrueBrain> Bluelight: I can't look in your home, so I have no clue 19:58:47 <TrueBrain> for all I know, the solution is very simple; I am just a poor sysop :) 19:59:15 <TrueBrain> I can only trace our end. I see a signal going out to your machine, I see the message: invalid server response. Then my trace stops :) 19:59:18 <Bluelight> I think open port and forword port is the same thing, right? 19:59:30 <TrueBrain> nope; an open port can be local 20:00:33 <Ammler> nmap tells the port is filtered, what does that mean? 20:00:46 <TrueBrain> that it is closed; nmap from openttd.org tells it is open 20:01:08 <TrueBrain> but that is TCP. UDP is a different story ;) 20:02:22 <Ammler> 3978/udp open|filtered unknown 20:02:34 <TrueBrain> Ammler: ppssstt .. 3979 ;) 20:02:49 <TrueBrain> 3978 is only outbound 20:03:09 <Ammler> well, same for both, tried that too 20:03:21 <TrueBrain> you can't check UDP ports 20:04:45 <Bluelight> Well my ruter has no option for UDP, it opens both I think.. And there is no way to forward port other then opening them, and I opened all ports, lol 20:05:07 <TrueBrain> euh ... you always have to forward a port, or give an IP where the opened port should be routed too 20:05:27 <Bluelight> Yeah It says port opened for 10.0.0.2 20:05:40 <TrueBrain> crappy router, if it names it like that :p 20:05:40 <Bluelight> Open all ports 10.0.0.2 20:05:55 <TrueBrain> but that can still be outgoing .. owh .. what am I doing .. I don't know anything about local routers 20:06:00 <TrueBrain> I only deal with bigger hardware :) 20:06:03 <Ammler> the forward thing might be called something like services for games or such 20:06:19 <Bluelight> Virtual server? 20:07:49 <Bluelight> Also, OpenTTD is not in the gamelist @ http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/ZyXEL/Prestige660RU-T3/Prestige660RU-T3index.htm 20:08:05 <Bluelight> Thats my router by the way.. 20:08:28 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-206-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:04 <Ammler> Bluelight: but maybe something like "custom" 20:09:56 <TrueBrain> follow, say, Worms 3D or what ever, and fill in 3979 instead of the ports mentioned 20:10:31 <Terkhen> my router has a list of games (already ancient when I got the router) that I never use and a custom server option 20:10:42 <Ammler> or change openttd port to the game port it supports... 20:14:19 *** PeterT [4160cb23@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:14:24 <PeterT> Hello 20:14:27 <PeterT> Terkhen here? 20:14:45 <Terkhen> yes 20:14:49 <TrueBrain> hide Terkhen, we cover for you 20:14:50 <TrueBrain> too late ... 20:15:07 <PeterT> when did you become an OpenTTD developer? 20:15:24 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Bye - http.//dev.openttdcoop.org] 20:15:24 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: gone...] 20:15:24 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Bye - http://dev.openttdcoop.org] 20:15:26 <Alberth> 2 years ago 20:15:26 <TrueBrain> concratz btw Terkhen :) Almost forgot saying that :) 20:15:52 <Terkhen> thank you TrueBrain ;) 20:16:16 <TrueBrain> now you have to explain your actions to PeterT of course, but you understand that :) 20:16:34 <Bluelight> Ok I used a software thingy from portforward.com, and it say that UDP 3979 is open.. 20:17:57 <Terkhen> PeterT: for a long time already, I just forgot to commit anything until 23 hours ago 20:18:19 <Terkhen> :P 20:18:44 <PeterT> really? 20:18:47 <PeterT> wow 20:19:00 <PeterT> So why do you submit patches on the dev forum 20:19:02 <PeterT> why not just commit them 20:19:09 <Alberth> testing of course 20:19:27 *** snorre_ is now known as snorre 20:19:30 <Belugas> needed to gaion some confidence first... 20:21:35 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:22:05 *** Ammler [~ammler@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:22:19 <Terkhen> patches are like wine, they need a lot of time to get really good 20:22:58 <PeterT> what about some of your simple and useful patches? 20:23:00 <jonty-comp> wine the drink or wine the software? :P 20:23:03 <PeterT> like close-middle-click 20:23:07 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:23:25 <Alberth> look at yexo, another dev trying out the newgrf airports before he commits the change 20:23:29 <Belugas> after some times, a dev knows what to commit and what not to commit 20:23:34 <Terkhen> not all platforms have a middle mouse click 20:23:45 <TrueBrain> PeterT: how about you give the man a break, and do not suck him dry on his irst day? 20:24:27 <Terkhen> also, I don't think everyone would agree on giving the middle mouse that role 20:24:51 <Terkhen> don't worry TrueBrain, I was expecting this :P 20:26:04 <TrueBrain> and your replies show me you will survive in this community ;) :) 20:26:14 <jonty-comp> hehe 20:26:32 <Bluelight> What is wrong if the port is open and forwarded? 20:26:34 <Terkhen> :) 20:26:45 <jonty-comp> Bluelight: firewall on your pc? 20:26:50 <jonty-comp> could be any number of things 20:26:52 <Bluelight> No 20:26:55 <jonty-comp> even ISP filtering 20:27:42 <Bluelight> I have a program here from portforward.com, and it say that UDP 3979 is open.. 20:28:38 <TrueBrain> Bluelight: as I said: something is replying on the port, but it is giving faulty information 20:29:01 <Bluelight> How is that possible? Argh! 20:29:12 <jonty-comp> with the internet, anything is possible 20:29:18 <Bluelight> He he.. 20:31:55 <Bluelight> Is it possible to get corrupted information after adding scripts and modifying config file? 20:32:44 <Bluelight> I mean faulty data.. 20:34:16 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... anyone knows how to make and iterate lists in javascript? 20:37:17 <TrueBrain> Bluelight: by any chance you have some heavy traffic running? Torrent? 20:37:37 <PeterT> does this: if (!config->HasAI()) { IConsoleWarning("Failed to load the specified AI"); 20:37:38 <Bluelight> Nope, nothing.. 20:38:04 <PeterT> translate to "if we don't have an AI present, say 'Failed to load the specified AI'"? 20:38:40 <TrueBrain> Bluelight: my last suggestion will be: shut down your server for 15 minutes or so, and try again 20:39:24 <Yexo> PeterT: approximatly yes 20:39:28 <Bluelight> I think it might be some script.. 20:39:35 <Yexo> more like "If there is no AI configured for this slot, say...." 20:40:14 *** stalwart10 [~aagocs@dsl5401C08E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:41:02 <Bluelight> Only script I'm using is: on_server_connect.scr 20:41:03 <Bluelight> # Show a MOTD 20:41:05 <Bluelight> say "Welcome..." 20:41:17 <Bluelight> So that can't be the problem.. 20:41:30 <PeterT> thanks, yexo 20:41:42 <PeterT> I was looking at your recent changes 20:42:23 <Alberth> Bluelight: if you want to know for sure, run a plain openttd program without any other stuff first 20:44:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:45:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:05 <andythenorth> hi hi 20:50:22 <Alberth> hi andythenorth 20:59:24 <Sevalecan> I know a guy who used to call himself "Albareth" 21:00:53 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 21:04:27 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:04:39 *** Chris_Booth{Bored} [~Chris_Boo@cpc4-newt30-2-0-cust18.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:04:40 *** Chris_Booth{Bored} is now known as Chris_Booth 21:04:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C90B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:06:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18952 /trunk/src/ (saveload/saveload.h settings.cpp): -Fix (r18950): loading recent (=newer then title game) savegames failed 21:12:32 <SpComb^> moar tests 21:14:41 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Untenmaa, Utm Aœ - Aja 35 Odota seis] 21:14:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.190.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:45 <Zuu> Terkhen: Congratz to the write access. :-) 21:14:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.207.120] has joined #openttd 21:16:47 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:01 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 21:20:25 <Terkhen> thank you Zuu :) 21:22:39 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 21:24:54 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:22 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:45 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:46 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:42 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:31:32 *** Muxy is now known as Guest9 21:31:37 *** Goulp is now known as muxy 21:31:58 *** muxy is now known as Muxy 21:33:07 *** Guest9 [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:39 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18953 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 21:39:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Feature: [NoAI] allow editing AI settings while an AI is running 21:39:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Only settings with the AICONFIG_INGAME flag can be editted in this way 21:39:41 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:41 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:40:35 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has joined #openttd 21:44:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe941.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:52 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@216.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 21:50:39 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@216.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:49 *** jpx_ [~jpx_@e83-245-154-218.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:25 *** stalwart10 [~aagocs@dsl5401C08E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:59:10 <TrueBrain> lalala 21:59:30 <Rubidium> pom-te-pom 21:59:37 <TrueBrain> go install your laptop 21:59:50 <__ln__> those might be copyrighted songs and riaa will sue you. 21:59:52 <Rubidium> yeah, installing xerver-xorg-input-all now 22:02:33 *** rait [~rait@82.131.124.8.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:44 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:21 <Rubidium> syncing my home directory now :) 22:13:14 *** sawtooth [~anthony@74-46-200-187.dr01.wyng.mn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:27 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc4-newt30-2-0-cust18.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:53 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 22:20:19 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@216.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558]] 22:25:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:25:45 *** Brianett1 [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:26:25 *** Brianett1 [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 22:26:35 <PeterT> sorry I bugged all of you before 22:26:45 <PeterT> Congratulations on becoming a dev, Terkhen 22:26:56 <Terkhen> thank you PeterT 22:28:36 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@226.160.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:14 <TrueBrain> wow .. people still surprise me :) 22:29:14 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:22 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2002:55b7:9450:1:a98d:785d:1a2e:273f] has joined #openttd 22:30:38 <TrueBrain> (was a positive remark btw ;)) 22:31:05 <PeterT> TrueBrain 22:31:18 <PeterT> Would you unblock me from DorpsGek 22:31:20 <PeterT> please 22:31:30 <PeterT> So I can use @seen in privmsg 22:32:15 <TrueBrain> I had too many complaints, so no. I am not in the habbit to play moderator on an IRC bot. Maybe next month again 22:32:42 <PeterT> Ok 22:32:47 <PeterT> Thanks for a quick reply, anyway 22:33:02 <__ln__> PeterT: wtf did you have to do to get ignored by a bot? 22:33:59 *** woldemar [~world@213.178.34.57] has joined #openttd 22:34:31 <planetmaker> __ln__: highlight everybody by using @seen exessively (my bet) 22:34:48 <TrueBrain> and the money goes to .... planetmaker! :) 22:35:02 <planetmaker> wwooooo! :-D 22:35:37 <__ln__> awesome 22:36:52 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:38 * SpComb^ wonders if too little thought has been given to the matter of merging cargodist into trunk, or if he's just missed all the discussion because it was ages ago 22:39:34 <SpComb^> there's something a little wrong with having a 71-page topic for a patchset/feature 22:39:56 <Rubidium> you probably missed the discussion 22:41:45 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:42:45 <TrueBrain> SpComb^: I guess there is something wrong with the patchset/feature too ;) 22:43:27 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-156.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:43:40 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 22:43:45 <TrueBrain> morning Nite_Owl 22:44:28 <Nite_Owl> Hello TrueBrain 22:44:33 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:55 <__ln__> what's the status of finding distributable music? 22:47:35 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 22:47:47 <Rubidium> SpComb^: the threading in cargodist and the hiccups (as described in the thread) worry me, also the 'performance improvements' stuff did (more or less) show that it wasn't tested very good 22:48:28 <Rubidium> it's N% faster when that's only the case which many many of his patches applied and a simple other way of doing it is even faster and simpler 22:50:00 *** PeterT [4160cb23@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:52:52 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:10 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:01:33 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 23:02:10 <Terkhen> good night 23:02:16 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@132.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:03:07 <Eddi|zuHause> my experience of cargodist is that it gets very slow when the minimap is showing the link graph 23:07:04 <TrueBrain> night all 23:07:20 <Nite_Owl> later TrueBrain 23:11:18 <planetmaker> night TrueBrain 23:11:25 <planetmaker> and also good night all :-) 23:12:06 <Nite_Owl> later planetmaker <although a bit late> 23:15:48 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-200-202.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Something strange must have happened...] 23:28:43 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-156.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:18 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-156.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:29:41 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 23:29:58 <Luukland> Guys is the price of building on desert connected with the price of building on rocks? 23:31:59 <Yexo> no, it's the same as building on rough grass tiles 23:35:02 <Luukland> ah ok, indeed, my bad, stuppid error I made messing up ID's 23:35:53 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@216.80-203-77.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:45:54 *** Guest171 [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:21 *** mib_qlghpea5y56o [4c6a88c4@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:47:24 *** mib_qlghpea5y56o [4c6a88c4@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 23:49:33 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-156.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:54:14 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: smatz * r18954 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.h: -Fix (r18952): missing 'inline' 23:55:41 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-16-169.A149.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 23:56:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18955 /trunk/ (15 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: [NoAI] introduce GetBuildCost functions in several classes to get easier cost estimations before you start building 23:59:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r18956 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_changelog.hpp: -Update: NoAI changelog 23:59:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]