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00:01:59 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 00:03:17 *** Guest1811 [~Dale@c-24-12-229-175.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:07:50 <SekiSelu> BWJM - In order to have flat platforms, when building your stations, build one train line at a time 00:08:51 <SekiSelu> Rather than slapping down a 6x5, do 6 1x5s :) 00:09:50 <SekiSelu> You can actually get some pretty funky looking stations without needing GRFs if you're inventive with that 00:10:19 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-229-175.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:10:19 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1814 00:10:20 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 00:16:48 *** Guest1814 [~Dale@c-24-13-125-217.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:17:38 *** spoo [~zach@68.235.229.78] has joined #openttd 00:18:12 <spoo> Hay 00:18:31 <spoo> on an openttd map, where is the map origin 00:18:39 <spoo> that is, the (0,0) tile? 00:18:56 <glx> use query tool 00:19:03 <Sacro> it's at (0,0) 00:19:21 <glx> (I don't have the origin in my head, but the query tool can tell you) 00:21:14 <Yexo> it's the topmost tile 00:26:22 *** ajmiles2 [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27:50 <spoo> glx, thanks! 00:30:05 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 00:32:18 <spoo> and x seems to go sw<->ne 00:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause> use the right-hand-rule 00:39:25 <Eddi|zuHause> thumb is x-axis, index finger is y-axis, middle finger is z-axis 00:46:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:47:13 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 00:55:07 <Mazur> Is there a way to speed up those news popups? I can can hardly catch up with them just by bouncing on the space bar, so I feel, that by the time I get the message, the news is too late. 00:58:08 <Eddi|zuHause> you can turn off the "unimportant" messages 01:14:58 <Mazur> Like the closure announcements, which come after the fact. 01:15:14 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has quit [] 01:18:07 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: yexo * r19590 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] setting industry prop 0x24 to 0 caused empty station names 01:29:51 *** entw_ [~chatzilla@p54B02A23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:35:34 *** entw [~chatzilla@p54B02A5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:48 *** entw_ is now known as entw 01:36:09 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-229-175.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:39:38 *** piro [~jeremy@pohl.ececs.uc.edu] has joined #openttd 01:40:26 <piro> Hello. I have a quick question. I have two dock/truck loading stations separated by a lake 01:41:23 <piro> And I noticed that if I have the ship just unload coal directly to the dock, I get about 8000 dollars. If I have it transfer the coal and have a truck deliver it to a power plant however, it seems to come out about the same 01:42:01 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 01:42:48 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:24 <piro> My question is, is there some advantage to delivering it directly to the dock over having a truck transfer it to the power plant? 01:46:31 <Mazur> Depends on which is quicker, the faster it gets picked up,and the faster it gets delivered, the more it pays. 01:47:49 <Mazur> There, I'm fully electric, now. Found out how to do it quickly and safely early on in the process. :-) 01:48:03 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:946a:3e6a:9618:6b77] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:51:58 *** OwenS [~owenshep@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52:13 *** Biolunar__ [mahdi@blfd-4db1865c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 01:57:12 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:59:30 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:59:31 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-5d821100.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:04:43 <piro> I just learned about coverage areas. Apparently the power plant was in the coverage area of the dock 02:05:53 <moot> so...I can't wrap my head around signals. I've read the wiki page and it's just all incomprehensible 02:09:48 <Mazur> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one supposed to be able to upgrade a bridge by building a bridge where the bridge is? So what cab be the reason I get "must remove the bridge first"? 02:18:23 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 02:20:47 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d05b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:40 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 02:26:08 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has joined #openttd 02:26:29 <spoo> Mazur, try clicking on one end? 02:27:05 <spoo> moot, signals divide the track into sections; 2 trains can not occupy the same segment... 02:30:05 <De_Ghosty> lol piro 02:30:28 <De_Ghosty> if the truck only carry it 3 tiles further your not gonna get much more 02:30:28 <De_Ghosty> hahha 02:30:45 <De_Ghosty> there is a distance and price graph in the game 02:31:40 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 02:32:39 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has quit [] 02:48:04 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:48 <Mazur> Thanks, Spoo. 02:52:42 <yuriks_> oh deadlocks, delicious deadlocks =P 02:53:18 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 02:54:10 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:55:17 <Mazur> I've got a nice little gridlock at one city up North, where the station has only 4 platforms, and there was little space to begin with. 02:55:20 <Mazur> :-) 02:55:45 <Mazur> I think I'll leave that for tomorrow, I'm turning in. 02:55:53 <Mazur> ~\o/~ 02:56:09 <piro> This game is so addicting 02:56:15 <piro> Multiplayer with the girlfriend :D 02:56:22 <Mazur> It is. 02:56:33 <Mazur> Doubly addictive. 02:56:39 <Mazur> :-D 02:57:10 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:00:09 *** DX_Ipad [~Dreamxtre@host86-152-230-244.range86-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:06 <yuriks_> Mazur: my trains decided to arrange themselves in a loop around a station meaning none could move and reach an exit from the loop 03:01:47 <yuriks_> had to build a track sticking out from there to let one out and the thing started moving again 03:02:25 *** DX_Ipad [~Dreamxtre@host86-147-229-88.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:02:46 <yuriks_> anyone have tips to avoid "wait for full load" trains from clogging my stations? 03:03:56 <yuriks_> there should be a 'except if a train I share an order with is already at the station' option 03:08:12 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:10:15 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:45:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:50:30 <piro> How do you tell how much a building will cost before you place it? 03:52:46 *** entw [~chatzilla@p54B02A23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090903140736]] 03:53:27 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:24:34 <piro> And is there a way to update the route of all the buses associated with a particular depot? 04:27:10 <piro> Ok, my airplanes keep disappearing :( 04:27:10 <ccfreak2k> Holding Shift for any construction or terraforming job will tell you how much it will cost. 04:27:16 <piro> ccfreak2k: Ok, thanks 04:27:42 <piro> ccfreak2k: Do you have to click while holding shift? 04:28:03 <ccfreak2k> Yes. 04:28:28 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 04:28:33 <piro> Cool 04:29:00 <piro> Seriously though, I've built two airplanes, and both are gone now 04:29:53 <piro> Do they blow up or something? 04:48:13 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:02:43 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 05:05:11 <piro> Apparently they did. There must be a way to update a bunch of vehicle's routes at once... 05:10:35 <Jupix> http://wiki.openttd.org/Shared_orders#Shared_orders_2 05:17:00 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 05:17:48 <Wizzleby> Anyone offhand know why the makefiles for openttd, grfcodec, and nforenum like to pass CFLAGS to CXX? Am I missing something there? 05:35:15 <Wizzleby> I seriously need to stop asking questions about the build system at odd hours XD 05:36:05 *** nighthawk_c_m [~nighthawk@pD9504632.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:46:38 *** snorre_ is now known as snorre 05:52:03 *** nighthawkcm [~nighthawk@pD95047B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:59:10 *** nighthawk_c_m [~nighthawk@pD9504632.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:13:06 *** DX_Ipad [~Dreamxtre@host86-147-229-88.range86-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:19:22 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:51:20 <dih> TrueBrain: your Webtranslator 06:51:31 <dih> how much work would it require to let it support gettext? 06:51:42 <dih> in php code 06:56:34 <Rubidium> ~1111.11 GiB in 8 days :) 07:00:10 <dih> ^^ 07:00:36 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:29:57 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:33:40 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:44:30 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 07:45:46 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 07:55:26 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:46 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:38:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:39:18 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:40:33 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:01 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:00:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:10:04 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.236.193] has joined #openttd 09:12:01 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has joined #openttd 09:13:41 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has quit [] 09:15:30 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 09:26:06 *** owenshep [~owenshep@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:26:17 *** owenshep is now known as OwenS 09:28:32 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:34:28 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@79.88.149.61] has joined #openttd 09:41:47 <TrueBrain> sounds about right indeed 09:41:54 <dih> hello TrueBrain 09:42:28 <dih> can your translation baby work for php projects and gettext? 09:42:49 <TrueBrain> [08:56] <Rubidium> ~1111.11 GiB in 8 days :) 09:42:50 <TrueBrain> [11:41] <TrueBrain> sounds about right indeed 09:43:43 <TrueBrain> not good? :p 09:43:50 <TrueBrain> WT3.0 will never support gettext 09:43:56 <TrueBrain> WT3.1 is stalled in development, and supports gettext 09:44:46 <dih> define stalled? 09:44:48 <dih> ^^ 09:44:58 <dih> a kind of stalled and oh - it will never continue? 09:45:29 <dih> or is there a small chance that stalled in this case actually means you would get around to doing some more work on it in the near future (e.g. next 3 months) 09:46:05 <TrueBrain> lack of interest was number one 09:46:08 <TrueBrain> lack of time was number two 09:46:18 <TrueBrain> lack of motivtion was number three 09:46:30 <TrueBrain> my 'define-the-odds' gives me a low value 09:46:34 *** Mazur [~mazur@83.85.26.153] has joined #openttd 09:46:37 <dih> ^^ 09:46:49 <dih> is it open source? 09:47:10 <TrueBrain> yup 09:48:05 *** Mazur [~mazur@83.85.26.153] has quit [] 09:52:53 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 09:56:17 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:01:11 <dih> ah - that noaddedsugar thing? 10:01:37 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Off to the depot for service.] 10:02:11 <peter1138> hmm, 138GB in the past week 10:03:10 <peter1138> still, only 3.11 mbit/s 95th %ile 10:06:16 <Progman> how good does the load balancer work? 10:08:59 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:09:31 <Mazur> Sorry about the bouncing in and out, but I'm trying to get the start-up right. 10:10:08 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host86-155-56-207.range86-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:18:27 <Mazur> One more time. 10:18:31 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Off to the depot for service.] 10:21:37 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:21:57 <Mazur> That's better. 10:28:26 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:28:52 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:35:27 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has left #openttd [] 10:36:18 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 10:39:18 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 10:41:32 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:37 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has joined #openttd 10:45:37 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:20 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:37 <dih> TrueBrain: what's the address of wt ? 10:46:51 <TrueBrain> well, since Rubidium closed the VPS, there is none :p 10:47:08 <TrueBrain> Progman: which LB? 10:49:00 <Progman> of the mirror system 10:49:09 <TrueBrain> yes, it does work; very well in fact 10:49:09 <Progman> mentioned ~3 weeks ago 10:49:18 <TrueBrain> even hold up under the slashdot load 10:53:14 <TrueBrain> Progman: it does exactly what we intended it to do. When you are close to a mirror it redirects you to there, till a point that mirror gets overloaded, then it tries to find another mirror 10:53:49 <dih> TrueBrain: any other way you could give me access to the source? 10:53:59 <TrueBrain> also means US people stay at the US mirror for most of the time :) 10:54:13 <TrueBrain> dih: not atm. Even more as I have no idea in what condition it is in. I simply wouldn't know 10:54:30 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:57 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9A70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:55:27 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 10:56:46 <dih> ok 10:56:49 <dih> thanks ^^ 10:57:04 <dih> ^ that was not meant negetavely 11:07:49 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.27.246] has joined #openttd 11:13:58 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host86-155-56-207.range86-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:26 *** Biolunar__ is now known as Biolunar 11:28:26 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:00 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c716.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:43:33 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:56 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1865c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 11:46:13 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7dac:e9e7:263f:e126] has joined #openttd 11:46:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:52:09 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1865c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:52:27 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:54:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:13 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: yexo * r19591 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Add: [NoAI] AIRail::GetMaxSpeed(RailType) to get the speed limit of railtypes 12:04:19 <TrueBrain> dih: way too busy atm to take care of such things :p 12:05:10 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B87C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:26 <dih> never mind TB ;-) 12:05:30 <dih> i know what that is like ^^ 12:08:30 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de7f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:08:37 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C4D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:13:48 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has joined #openttd 12:15:50 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c716.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:46 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 12:23:35 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@host86-160-186-96.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:24:20 *** Gacoperz [ImaNewbie@088156173024.wejherowo.vectranet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:24:37 *** Gacoperz is now known as ImaNewbie 12:29:03 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:30:55 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@79.88.149.61] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:45 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cad2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:38:17 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C4D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:55 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de7f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:05 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d05b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:37 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C4D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:23 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB9F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:24 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cad2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:48 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d9f6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:54:23 <Belugas> hello 12:54:37 <Ammler> Sali Belugas 12:54:58 <peter1138> hmm, i could do with some debian magic... 12:56:00 <peter1138> xfs decided, during an upgrade, that it didn't want to talk 12:56:31 <Belugas> Ocus Pocus Octopus Debian Tobian ! 12:56:36 <Belugas> SHAZAM 12:56:40 <peter1138> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1: EOF after field name `' 12:56:44 <peter1138> yeah 12:58:01 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d05b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:04 *** ImaNewbie [ImaNewbie@088156173024.wejherowo.vectranet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:56 <Belugas> Norstar00 13:07:15 <Belugas> arggg! 13:08:08 <Belugas> lol... and it's not even correctly written ! 13:09:50 <FauxFaux> peter1138: apt-get clean && apt-get update? 13:10:08 <peter1138> nah, buggered filesystem 13:10:09 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c842.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:29 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d9f6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:18:39 *** kyo313 [~kyo@92.3.9.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:06 <peter1138> hmm, now i need to force-reinstall a load of packages 13:25:39 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-123-204.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:28 *** ptr [~peter@wpa-219.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #openttd 13:27:38 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-241-198.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:27:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:37:14 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-205-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:49 <Phazorx> peter1138: xfs-check cant fix it? 13:38:56 <peter1138> sure 13:38:58 <Phazorx> or you cant boot at all? 13:39:02 <peter1138> it can't fix corrupt data though 13:39:13 <Phazorx> oh... data corruption 13:39:20 <peter1138> journalled filesystems... what's the fucking point, eh? 13:39:38 <Phazorx> well shouldnt that like never ever happen? 13:39:42 <peter1138> quite 13:40:19 <Phazorx> unless there is some HW malfunction and lost superblock along with journal tree 13:41:08 <peter1138> well, i assume it managed to get corrupted a while ago during some powercut, and but the problem ran unnoticed until just now 13:46:35 * peter1138 also mumbles about lack of vsync when using two monitors :p 14:07:14 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 14:08:52 *** ptr [~peter@wpa-219.kthopen.kth.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 14:12:07 *** svip [~svip@prussia.theinfosphere.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:12 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9A70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: <Nachricht>] 14:18:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7b46.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:21 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 14:18:35 *** ptr [~peter@wpa-219.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #openttd 14:23:53 <Sacro> more OSS games should do this 14:23:56 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Y_Pw_TtFo 14:24:38 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9A70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:27:40 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9A70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:32:22 *** Yexo [~Yexo@205-89-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 14:32:38 *** Yexo [~Yexo@205-89-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:33:52 <blathijs> Sacro: awesome :-) 14:34:40 <Sacro> indeed 14:35:33 <Rubidium> so, Sacro... when can you make a nice one for OpenTTD? 14:36:23 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 14:37:49 <Sacro> hmmm 14:37:52 <Sacro> dunno 14:39:10 <TrueBrain> would be nice if you would do that Sacro ... would have been something good for 1.0.0 release ;) 14:40:00 <TrueBrain> the music is just perfect for the trailer and game :) 14:40:02 <Sacro> :( 14:40:43 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 14:42:04 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42:05 <TrueBrain> also looks like a really good-created game :) 14:42:50 <blathijs> Wouldn't that be well-created? 14:43:02 <TrueBrain> tomato tomato 14:44:29 * frosch123 wonders whether it contains a concrete-donkey 14:45:49 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:46:54 *** nighthawkcm [~nighthawk@pD95047B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:50:55 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:53:29 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:16 <Mazur> Ladidadida. 14:57:01 <Phazorx> queen actually made another great title specially for openttd intro 14:57:22 <Phazorx> whoever can guess which song (and video specifically) i meant - gets 5 points 15:00:03 <Sacro> errm guys 15:00:03 <Ammler> what can I buy with those 5 points? 15:00:09 <Sacro> OpenTTD has made it onto TheDailyWTF 15:00:10 <Belugas> Under Pressure 15:00:16 <Belugas> steam -> pressure... 15:00:33 <Sacro> http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/201004/errord/openttdcrash.png 15:01:31 <Phazorx> Belugas: nope :) 15:01:53 <Phazorx> Ammler: you can get a point cookie once you get to 100 15:02:15 <SpComb> yay, featured 15:02:20 <Phazorx> what;s with "buy" anyway... i know swiss are all about banks... but not everything in the world revolves around money 15:02:23 <SpComb> I was about to say the same as Sacro 15:02:25 <Phazorx> take OPENttd for example 15:02:27 <Ammler> Sacro: never link to image directly :-P 15:02:35 <Sacro> haha 15:02:50 <Phazorx> Belugas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OVjt2JfiGw 15:03:16 <Belugas> at work????? buwhahahahahahah!!!! 15:03:20 <Sacro> ' 15:03:20 <Sacro> The OpenTTD error comes from a truly awesome game - Transport Tycoon Deluxe. ' 15:03:23 <Sacro> what!? 15:03:30 <Sacro> the OpenTTD error comes from OpenTTD 15:04:40 *** ptr [~peter@wpa-219.kthopen.kth.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 15:04:40 <Phazorx> Belugas: i meant Queen - Breakthrough 15:04:59 <Phazorx> imho it's really fitting by many counts 15:05:06 <Belugas> mmh... 15:05:17 <Belugas> i would not say that, personnaly... 15:05:20 <Ammler> Sacro: the link to the article would be nice 15:05:24 <SpComb> http://thedailywtf.com/#PPic3 15:05:35 <Belugas> just pointing to the song only, note... 15:05:42 <SpComb> or rather, http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Avoiding-Continuums-Bits.aspx#PPic3 15:06:01 <Phazorx> Belugas: considering 1.0.0 i'd say lyrics fits too :) 15:09:12 <Belugas> well... for a user pint of view, i'd say so. but.. as a whole, it's more an evolution than a breakthrough... 15:09:22 <Belugas> it's a break through the 0.x scheme 15:09:35 <Belugas> but... apart from that... it's really an evolution 15:09:38 <Belugas> my point of view 15:09:47 <Belugas> not the one of the current dev team 15:09:53 <Belugas> pint? 15:09:53 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 15:09:57 <Belugas> DRINK! 15:10:01 <Belugas> BEER!!!!! 15:10:05 <Belugas> not now :S 15:10:07 <Belugas> boooo :( 15:11:14 <peter1138> WATER!!! 15:11:16 <peter1138> oh 15:11:20 <peter1138> that's not as exciting 15:11:51 <Ammler> in desert 15:13:03 <Belugas> water... droping slowly from a nipple, shot in front of a black backdrop, ISO 100, with a 70-200mm L 2.8... 15:13:12 <Belugas> yeah, water can be exciting! 15:13:54 <peter1138> Belugas can make words pornographic :) 15:14:03 <Belugas> heheh 15:14:06 <Phazorx> Belugas: are you sure you are at work? 15:14:15 <Belugas> yup, in body at least... 15:14:19 <Belugas> i need evasion 15:14:21 <Belugas> big time 15:14:43 <Phazorx> sounds like you need to cut your friday short and swing by a bar 15:19:14 <Belugas> there are naked girls with water dripping from the nipples in bars? 15:19:59 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:07 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 15:24:44 <aber> reminds me of "Manneken Pis" 15:26:53 <Belugas> who knows about the "Janneken Pis" ? 15:27:10 <Belugas> or somehting... not sure about the real spelling 15:28:16 <ddfreyne> dirty belgians 15:28:36 <Belugas> watch out... i'm one! 15:29:42 <ddfreyne> so am I ;) 15:29:58 <Belugas> ho? well... cool! 15:45:37 <DJNekkid> George3: you got a PM on tt-forums (if you are ECS-George) 15:45:56 *** George3 is now known as George 15:46:05 <George> thank you 15:46:44 <DJNekkid> np 15:50:02 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:28 <George> can you save in xls, excael can't open ods 15:54:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:55:57 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.20.17] has joined #openttd 16:00:28 <George> DJNekkid: 16:02:00 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19592 /trunk/src/ (date.cpp openttd.cpp): -Fix: don't do the desync debug savegames mid-StateGameLoop; they're increadibly useless (or hard to load correctly) in that case 16:04:56 *** doclzor\afk [~steffen@ti541210a080-0936.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 16:07:06 <DJNekkid> George: should be able... hehe 16:07:08 <DJNekkid> but sure... 16:08:28 <DJNekkid> wow 16:08:39 <DJNekkid> .ods is 700kb, .xls is 3mb! :D 16:09:22 <DJNekkid> there you go George... sent 16:13:37 <doclzor\afk> any changes to change resolution? everything is like far away from me even tho im max zoomed in 16:13:42 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:30 <doclzor\afk> any ways * 16:19:18 *** APTX_ [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 16:19:18 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:48 <welshdragon> doclzor\afk: yes, change it under 'settings' 16:23:18 <doclzor\afk> hmm didn find it.. i must be blind =) 16:24:27 <doclzor\afk> ah 16:24:29 <doclzor\afk> found =) 16:24:53 <Jupix> doclzor\afk: install extra-zoom :P 16:25:33 <doclzor\afk> :P 16:30:40 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:36 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 16:31:53 <Phazorx> DJNekkid .ods is 700kb, .xls is 3mb!... wow... DJNekkid discovers power of gzip? 16:32:48 <peter1138> .csv is 1.5KB? 16:34:26 <Phazorx> csv will be larger than both most likely 16:34:45 <Lakie> Depends on formatting? 16:34:46 <Phazorx> OO docs are just gziped 16:35:07 <Phazorx> Lakie: in case of csv formating is kinda standardized 16:35:15 <FauxFaux> Much like xlsx. 16:35:34 <Lakie> Spreedsheets usually contain formatting information, layout etc. CSV is usually just raw data. 16:36:00 <Phazorx> Lakie: formatted data is easily compressable due to patterns 16:36:35 <Lakie> Quite likely, 16:41:11 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:37 <Ammler> Phazorx: sadly OO doesn't support unzipped docs 16:43:50 <Ammler> so you could add those to a vcs 16:44:33 <glx> smart vcs can handle them 16:44:58 <Ammler> glx: you mean with hooks compress/uncompress? 16:45:02 <glx> yes 16:46:10 <Ammler> dunno, if that is "smart" 16:46:33 <Ammler> smarter would be if oo could read it those right away, it needs decompressing anyway 16:48:05 <Ammler> save as "folder" :-) 16:48:06 <glx> or they can use oodiff 16:48:17 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.98] has joined #openttd 16:48:35 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@61.149.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:12 *** spoo [~zach@68.235.229.78] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:51:09 <Ammler> also, iirc oo docs are zipped, not gzipped 16:51:30 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, they are 16:51:50 <DJNekkid> practically not formatted, that doc 16:53:10 <DJNekkid> about 1350*40 cells 16:53:25 <DJNekkid> with about 35*1350 contain a formula 17:01:09 *** nighthawk_c_m [~nighthawk@pD95047B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:06:53 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:06 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19593 /trunk/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: improve loading/executing the desync logs 17:10:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:26:50 *** zachanima [~zach@90.185.77.237] has joined #openttd 17:31:17 <DJNekkid> now this is most likely a stupid question, but why do i need gfx/sfx files to run a server? 17:31:50 <Ammler> e.g. for map generation 17:32:24 <Ammler> you can use nosound for sfx 17:32:41 <Rubidium> sfx isn't needed on a server 17:32:55 <Rubidium> gfx is needed because it contains a bit more than only graphics 17:33:43 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 17:33:44 <Ammler> Rubidium: if you would use the new generator, it would go without? 17:34:04 <DJNekkid> Rubidium: okidoki... :D:D 17:34:23 <Rubidium> Ammler: there's still quite a lot depending on data from the graphics files 17:34:37 <Rubidium> e.g. constructing windows 17:36:17 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 17:38:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:01 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:40:55 *** PeterT [~PeterT@rdlbnc.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:55 *** Jolteon [~Jolt@rdlbnc.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:50 <lennard> aww, you guys made thedailywtf 17:45:25 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r19594 /trunk/src/lang/ (greek.txt portuguese.txt turkish.txt): 17:45:25 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:25 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: greek - 5 changes by fumantsu 17:45:25 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: portuguese - 2 changes by JayCity 17:45:25 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: turkish - 16 changes by niw3 17:47:41 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:49:20 <Ammler> lennard: isn't it possible the "wtf" belongs to the poster? 17:50:09 <Ammler> it isn't reproduceable... 17:51:38 <Rubidium> I'm wondering what's so "wtf" about it 17:51:51 <Ammler> the list about missing grfs 17:52:26 <Rubidium> but the line above it says that if nothing misses he should file a bug report 17:52:59 <Rubidium> so the wtf is why the fuck didn't he file the bug report? 17:53:15 <Ammler> yeah, the wtf belongs to the poster :-) 17:53:16 <frosch123> what was the character limit for the messagebox again? 17:54:28 <Rubidium> much more than that :) 17:54:50 <Rubidium> although for the sake of making it look better we might use our custom (help) 'box' for those messages 17:55:39 <Ammler> hmm, what if his screen has that size 18:00:24 *** Knuffelwolf [~Kaboosh@ip4da6d982.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: Gone into the X Files] 18:04:17 *** kyo313 [~kyo@92.3.9.107] has joined #openttd 18:05:03 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:05:42 *** kyo313 [~kyo@92.3.9.107] has quit [] 18:06:06 *** kyo313 [~kyo@92.3.9.107] has joined #openttd 18:06:37 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: the text is way too cryptic for a useful error message 18:07:15 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 18:07:54 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 18:10:27 <frosch123> "OTTD crashed. That is your fault. Install following files with appropiate versions:" <- better? 18:11:23 <Lakie> Heh 18:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> at least that is way shorter :) 18:12:17 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has joined #openttd 18:16:49 *** qFox [~mail@5356B263.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:17:16 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:38 <qFox> is there an overview to the keyboard bindings somewhere? 18:19:23 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:19:32 <frosch123> wiki.openttd.org 18:19:57 <qFox> i'm there. searching for various related keywords did not turn up a result or too many bogus results 18:20:25 <frosch123> try "Hotkeys" 18:20:40 <qFox> oh wait 18:20:41 <qFox> right 18:20:47 <qFox> thanks 18:20:48 <frosch123> and "Hidden features" 18:21:26 <qFox> ahhhh delete. not the most obvious key on a laptop :p 18:22:41 <qFox> i dont suppose there's a mass sell option? 18:22:56 <frosch123> the third icon in the depot? 18:23:03 <Phazorx> there is sell everything in depot button 18:23:07 <Phazorx> but there is no shortcut 18:23:30 <frosch123> or do you mean "close this company NOW" ? 18:23:35 <qFox> yeah i'd like to sell about a 1000 cars spread over about 100 depots :p 18:24:06 <qFox> i mean, there's an option to send them to the depot. why not sell them 18:24:25 <qFox> seems trivial after that (but thats an easy assumption, i know :) 18:27:54 *** jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:39 <Ammler> depoted vehicles shouldn't cost money or cpu, so just leave those :-) 18:28:50 *** jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:44 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:29:44 *** Alberth is now known as Guest1929 18:29:44 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 18:30:04 <qFox> yeah but i want to remove everything i have :) 18:32:11 <Ammler> load the save in scenario editor 18:34:01 <Yexo> qFox: start all vehicles, then remove all except for one depot, then send them all to a depot 18:34:48 <qFox> hm. is it possible to filter what to delete? 18:34:57 <qFox> say, demolish only depots.. 18:35:09 <qFox> i mean, i know its possible for road/rail 18:35:24 <Yexo> nope 18:35:25 <qFox> ahw. guess not 18:35:26 *** Guest1929 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:33 <qFox> see, i've taken over a few ai's 18:35:41 <qFox> and the number of depots is dramatic 18:35:50 <qFox> and i can wipe the whole landscape 18:35:59 <qFox> but that will make it impossible for most vehicles to get anywhere :p 18:36:11 <qFox> so i'm kind of out of options 18:36:22 <qFox> i guess i'll leave the depots and cars 18:37:20 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:39:14 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9A70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:41:15 <Ammler> try scenario editor? 18:43:47 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3d1e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 18:57:53 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 19:09:31 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: BBML.] 19:09:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:43 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:24:43 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 19:29:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-200-9.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:34:34 <qFox> niet als die kortgesloten is 19:34:40 <qFox> oops 19:35:15 <ddfreyne> that would indeed be bad news for your electric railways 19:36:00 <bryjen> hrm. setting NARS grf parameter 1 to 2 used to remove the regearing "cargo" from the locomotives. now it appears to remove the locomotives the have that cargo. 19:36:37 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:36:49 * bryjen wonders when that changed 19:43:24 <qFox> ddfreyne> as it turns out, not so good for computers either.. 19:43:41 <ddfreyne> qFox: yeah :) 19:59:24 <qFox> so is there code in place that tries to make towns/cities not build below the sea level? 19:59:44 <qFox> because i'm observing suspicious behavior that looks like that :p 20:00:16 <OwenS> qFox, OpenTTD doesn't have a level below sea level 20:02:51 <qFox> sea level itself then 20:02:57 <qFox> i mean 20:03:25 <qFox> i used to clear water areas around towns, grow them into cities on the lowest level and ... break the dam 20:03:26 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:03:38 <qFox> but the towns seemed to build higher up 20:03:46 <qFox> thwarting my plans 20:06:54 <Devroush> I never knew you could play openttd the evil way 20:06:58 <Devroush> guess you came up with something 20:09:46 <fjb> There are some evil things you can do like flooding or running over road vehicles with trains. 20:11:40 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has joined #openttd 20:14:05 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has quit [] 20:15:01 <qFox> oh i actually assumed the latter was a common tactic 20:15:21 <qFox> its most amusing to hold back 20 cars for some AI with a train 20:15:26 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has joined #openttd 20:15:34 <qFox> build some monorail crossings 20:15:43 <qFox> and let trains circle around it at highspeed 20:15:49 <qFox> slewing one car after the other 20:15:55 <qFox> takes some time to set up, but ohhhh the joy :p 20:16:36 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 20:17:10 <qFox> or building a line of traffic right in front of a competitors loading area, effectively blocking access while your guy is waiting to fully load some cargo that doesnt exist 20:18:07 <qFox> building some roads for shortcuts near a competitors route so they'll take your road instead, then cutting it off at certain points when some cars are on it 20:18:10 <qFox> dead fish 20:18:18 <qFox> and the ai usually never recovers 20:19:14 <qFox> ahwell. nuf ways to take it out on the enemy 20:22:12 <doclzor\afk> :P 20:24:16 <fjb> Be careful if your competitor is not an ai. He may strike back once you started the war. 20:30:54 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:36 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:33:36 *** Alberth is now known as Guest1943 20:33:36 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 20:36:17 <fjb> Hm, some AIs should really learn how to upgrade vehicles. 125 years old buses are cute as long as they are not driving in ahead of you. 20:39:14 *** Guest1943 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:48 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:47:04 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has quit [Quit: ã§ãã¯æ»çšœãããªãã§ããç§ã¯æ¬æ°ã§ãã] 20:52:17 <DJNekkid> does anyone here like rap? im trying to figure out what tune im thinking of, but i cant really find it 20:52:21 <nighthawk_c_m> A question, I told my train groups to replace the engines, some trains did it automatically while running their tours, some dont .. anyone have an idea why? 20:52:23 <DJNekkid> it might be snoop dogg... 20:52:48 <DJNekkid> it goes something like "i was na na na na on the dizzle, with the so me th in g on the zizzle" 20:52:54 <DJNekkid> hehe 20:53:09 <Alberth> those some trains have a depot order and other 'dont's have not? 20:53:32 <nighthawk_c_m> No train has a depot order 20:54:03 <Alberth> do you have servicing switched on? 20:54:07 <nighthawk_c_m> I had all running on tour and just chose the new engine, 90% went into a depot along their tour to refit, the rest just doesnt 20:54:13 <fjb> Or something prevents them from upgrading to the chosen machine. Are you using a train GRF? 20:54:15 <nighthawk_c_m> no, servicing is switched off 20:54:29 <nighthawk_c_m> DB XL 20:54:50 <Alberth> so they never need to visit a depot, or they cannot find one. 20:55:25 <fjb> When servicing is switched off they have no need to go to a depot and will not upgrade. 20:55:33 <nighthawk_c_m> well, actually only 1 train seems not to refit, and he is running on his regular tour past a depot 20:55:47 <nighthawk_c_m> well all the others did without explicit order 20:55:58 <nighthawk_c_m> so that seems to have changed to past releases 20:56:21 <Alberth> trains look for a depot only some of the time 20:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause> especially path reservations can make a train not find a depot 20:56:53 <Eddi|zuHause> because once reserved past a depot, it cannot make a detour anymore 20:57:33 <nighthawk_c_m> no path reservation, just regular signals 20:59:05 <fjb> Or the wrong type of replacement engine (passenger/cargo). 20:59:36 <nighthawk_c_m> out of 16 oil trains 13 replaced themselves, 3 I need to do manually 20:59:44 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:01:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:03:26 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 21:04:50 *** qFox [~mail@5356B263.cable.casema.nl] has quit [] 21:06:30 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 21:06:30 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.20.17] has quit [] 21:10:44 <dih> ladida 21:12:38 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 21:13:18 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 21:21:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:57 <Belugas> bye all 21:25:12 <frosch123> bye belugas 21:25:53 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1] 21:31:22 *** DanMacK [~here@65.94.201.53] has joined #openttd 21:33:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 21:35:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 21:36:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:04 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@61.149.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 21:38:02 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:40:23 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 21:42:09 *** aber1 [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 21:44:58 <OwenS> Jeez... Theres an Eve Online player... Who spent k real world money on the game O_o 21:48:17 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:48:27 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:53 <dih> OwenS: what he do? buy it? 21:51:38 <SpComb> I'm sure k would get you quite far in EVE 21:52:56 *** aber1 [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:54:07 <OwenS> dih, He bought "time cards". Which he then proceeded to sell (crashing the market) for in game money 21:54:15 <OwenS> With which he bought spacecraft 21:59:59 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:03:15 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-174-117.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:46 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 22:05:26 <fjb> Mixing game money and real money is a bad idea. 22:07:39 <Coco-Banana-Man> only if you turn Inflation on :D 22:08:22 <frosch123> fjb: depends on the transfer direction :p 22:09:01 <fjb> Ok, a few people really have fun. 22:10:59 <Phazorx> microtransactions are always fail actually 22:11:18 <Phazorx> they usualy a sign of marketing department getting more power than creative/developers 22:11:27 <Phazorx> which happens in decline of a game 22:12:01 <Phazorx> sad, eve was one of successful examples of modern game dev 22:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> ... every game declines 22:13:59 <Eddi|zuHause> ... even openttd will decline at some point 22:16:08 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: first person killing "games" have been there for millenia 22:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: that's a "genre", not a "game" :) 22:17:25 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: so stab-a-person isn't a game? :( 22:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause> not one single game, but many different games 22:18:04 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:17 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:22:11 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB9F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 22:22:25 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-205-251.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Something strange must have happened...] 22:26:16 <fjb> Hm, I got mogul status. Could have done more, but the game was fun. 22:29:33 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: yexo * r19595 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_changelog.hpp: -Doc: mention the addition of AIRail::GetMaxSpeed in the AI changelog 22:34:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7b46.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:53 *** nighthawk_c_m [~nighthawk@pD95047B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:40:40 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-174-117.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 22:42:02 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 22:43:25 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:43:43 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-67-49-76-8.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:50:12 *** re06011988 [~wanoo@modemcable077.126-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 23:05:57 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06:41 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 23:19:04 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:07 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 23:24:15 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... the deveolopment forum gets somewhat boring... 23:24:32 <Eddi|zuHause> there are basically three active patches on there 23:24:40 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.27.246] has quit [Quit: ãããã¿] 23:24:46 <Eddi|zuHause> cargodist is somewhat "stuck" 23:24:54 <Eddi|zuHause> autoseparation does not do what i want 23:25:28 <Eddi|zuHause> and daylength is unlikely to ever go anywhere, especially when each new attempt just ignores every previous attempt and goes "i fix the balance issues as they come up" 23:26:48 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause, ProgSigs is also active. As active as it can be while this slow ass company is not delivering my HDD... 23:30:30 * OwenS ponders why rTorrent doing a hash check on files on his media drives would cause his system to lag so badly (Considering nothing should be accessing said drives except rTorrent and the music player) 23:30:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:34 <piro> So if I have an airport next to a city, and it says it accepts mail, do I have to have a truck transport mail from the airport to the city for it to count? 23:33:45 <OwenS> no 23:34:02 <OwenS> If a station accepts something, you can drop it there and its done 23:34:21 <piro> Ok cool 23:36:20 <piro> Let's say I have a city that's close to a body of water but not close enough to say that it accepts anything. Is there any way to transport stuff to the dock via bus/truck? 23:36:28 <piro> And actually have it mean something? 23:41:36 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C4D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:09 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C4D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:56 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 23:55:33 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B774BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:59:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74917.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd