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00:07:07 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:20 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@200.80-202-26.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:01 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: you replied to "distribute cargo over several industries" with "you can use NewGRF for that", how do you think that should work? 00:19:46 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 00:23:58 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: when industry stops accepting cargo, it is distributed to other industries accepting it 00:24:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-25-122.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:43 <SmatZ> it was rather answer to the original problem, "Maximum Factory Goods Production??" 00:25:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i think that's more like a workaround, not a solution 00:25:44 <Eddi|zuHause> ah i hate flies... 00:26:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i had my window open for half an hour today, and then i had 20 flies in the room which i can't get rid of... 00:26:29 <SmatZ> :( 00:26:58 <Eddi|zuHause> they sleep at night, but they are hellishly annoying in the morning 00:28:21 * SmatZ closes windows 00:29:09 <SmatZ> there is a question 00:29:30 <SmatZ> should the cargo be distributed equally to all industries in the catchment area? 00:29:47 <SmatZ> or non-linearly with distance from station sign 00:29:48 <SmatZ> or... 00:34:44 <Eddi|zuHause> my suggestion would be equally 00:35:10 <Eddi|zuHause> by distance doesn't make sense 00:38:27 <SmatZ> ok :) 00:48:36 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49:03 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-142-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:59:53 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:18:09 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 01:30:28 *** ChoHag [~mking@77-44-113-86.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:54 *** lugo [~lugo@f055224010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43:47 *** ChoHag [~mking@77-44-113-86.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #openttd 01:46:34 *** Biolunar__ [mahdi@blfd-4db1bd46.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 01:50:31 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-23-141.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:53:47 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db1be3b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:04:09 <welshdragon> For up to date information regarding the UK Bus Set and British Rail OpenTTD Set, /join #dragonforums 02:17:56 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-23-141.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:25:11 <Mazur> Man. those PSG can really get intense. 02:25:33 <Mazur> :-) 02:26:59 <Mazur> E>ddi: Wrt those flies: I find sticky fly traps work wonders. 02:28:00 <Mazur> Keep those up for a bit, replace them now and again, and you're only left with remnants for the folded newspaper. 02:28:04 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:59:52 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-107-123.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:02:05 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-228-75.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 03:02:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 03:05:00 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3925:cec3:128f:82d0] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:11:42 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:24:32 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:56:15 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 04:11:41 *** Gartral [~Gareth@99-9-202-154.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 04:12:56 <Gartral> ok, so what went wrong with waypoints? i cant make a train use a specific track/platform 04:17:06 <Mazur> Are you sure yours signals are right way round? 04:18:06 <Mazur> And that there are no 90 degree turns to them with Allow 90 degree turns: Off" 04:19:38 <Mazur> And that the waypoint is not joined to another waypoint to another platform? 04:20:49 <Mazur> Just three suggestions with my brain offline, because I'm on the way to bed and I don't want to start it up again. 04:22:14 <Mazur> Haven't even mentioned a split between waypoint and platform, yet. 04:29:25 <Gartral> Mazur: i've taken the time too tripple check, and yes, my trains are all avoiding waypoints when set to go via waypoint 04:30:05 <Gartral> even on dangerous "no signal" loops.. (which isnt feasable anyway.. ) 04:31:47 <Mazur> Then I don't know, for now. 04:32:02 <Gartral> >.< 04:32:12 <Mazur> I only know, I hd no trouble with them. 04:33:30 <Mazur> Don;t use them much, though, prefer to depend on signals sorting traffic and "non-stop" to bypass intermediate stations, adn let them choose their own platform at will." 04:34:40 <Gartral> Mazur: problem with the last part is where im set up, i need the waypoints too rout 6 lanes through 1 bridge 04:34:50 <Mazur> And now the rest of my body will go offline, as well, as soon as it hits my bed. 04:34:56 <Gartral> lol 04:35:07 <Mazur> Make extra bridges. 04:35:09 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-23-141.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:35:20 <Mazur> Put a second one beside it. 04:35:47 <Gartral> Mazur: cant.. only found one good anchor point and the bridge i built soaked up 22 mil 04:35:52 <Mazur> Probably jammed all the time, no? 04:36:09 <Gartral> no.. just a long backlog 04:37:34 <Mazur> Use landscape to make second anchor point, and watch the backlog resolve itself in time. So a couple dozens trains go wandering for a spell, let them, they'll find their way home when traffic lets up. 04:37:41 <Mazur> s/and/or/ 04:38:27 <Mazur> That's one thing the Public Server Game teach you, jams can be fun. 04:38:33 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-23-141.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:39:24 <Gartral> mazure, actually, they all wait their turns nice and neat 04:39:47 <Mazur> I followed one train with no room to its destination all over the map, sightseeing with it as it wandered around. 04:40:12 <Mazur> Then I don't see your problem. 04:42:15 <Mazur> They are behaving nicely, doing ass you require, except there are a lot of them waiting their turn. 04:42:37 <Mazur> say If htere is room enough, it'll resolve, if not, build more bridge. 04:43:19 <Mazur> Long bridge, if it costs 22 million. 04:44:11 <Mazur> Not sure what levelling a spot of terrain hat long would cost, instead, if it could be cheaper. 04:44:59 <Gartral> Mazur: goes from side with an island allll the way accross a 512x512 map 04:45:20 <Mazur> 500 tile length bridge? 04:45:25 <Mazur> Madness. 04:45:44 <Gartral> something like that yea, maybe just short of 500 04:46:07 <Mazur> Like that makes a difference big enough to be noticed. 04:46:46 <Gartral> yea :P 04:48:03 <Mazur> terraforming that to a landbridge must be cheaper, not sure what the cost is, though. 300+ per point? that woujld amout to 15,000-25,000, of the top of my offline head. 04:48:21 <Mazur> Plus one zero. 04:49:15 <Mazur> 150 kâ¬, instead of 22 Mâ¬. 04:49:28 <Mazur> Maybe twice that much. 04:50:26 <Mazur> And you could signal it, so more trains at once on that line. 04:50:50 <Mazur> Just an idea, mind. 04:51:15 <Mazur> DOn't quote me, I'm only working with the pilot light of my brain. 04:51:46 <Mazur> Now I'm really off. 04:52:08 <amalloy1> that figure is way off, fyi 04:53:32 <amalloy1> i just checked: raising a land bridge 30 tiles long (by only one unit of height) is1.8 million pounds 04:53:58 <planetmaker> with inflation on 04:54:03 <planetmaker> good morning :-) 04:54:17 <planetmaker> @calc 30 04:54:17 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 30 04:54:23 <planetmaker> @calc 30*15000 04:54:23 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 450000 04:54:26 <amalloy1> well i tested this in 1950. so inflation shouldn't be an issue 04:54:37 <planetmaker> @calc 30*60000 04:54:37 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 1800000 04:54:43 <planetmaker> makes sense :-) 04:55:20 *** amalloy1 is now known as amalloy 04:55:38 <planetmaker> I don't care about money in this game ;-) 04:55:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7536B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B772D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:22 <amalloy> no, but gartral was asking about building a bridge 500 tiles long and mazur claimed terraforming a land brige would be more than 100 times cheaper 05:07:31 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.158.71] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10:12 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@68-29-34-166.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 05:10:22 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.158.71] has joined #openttd 05:11:06 <mynetdude> Is there any way to easily troubleshoot a signal issue as to why a train will not go through? (other than obvious, missing tracks, etc? 05:12:26 <mynetdude> oh nevermind I think I know what the problem might be 05:13:09 <mynetdude> was due to the bridge not being electrified :) thanks 05:13:12 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@68-29-34-166.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [] 05:22:06 *** TB [~patric@145.118.72.132] has joined #openttd 05:22:12 *** TrueBrain [~patric@145.118.72.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:00:07 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 06:07:43 *** moot [moot@nom.nom.delicious.strawberrycupcak.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:09:55 *** moot [moot@nom.nom.delicious.strawberrycupcak.es] has joined #openttd 06:10:58 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:38:54 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:30 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47:10 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:50:44 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:51:28 <Terkhen> good morning 07:06:00 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has joined #openttd 07:10:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:10:25 *** Splex [~splex@n219078149145.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10:41 *** Splex [~splex@n219078149145.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 07:39:03 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:45:13 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:47:33 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56:09 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:56:37 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 08:08:25 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9C49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:09:27 *** TB is now known as TrueBrain 08:11:55 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has joined #openttd 08:25:08 <Mazur> More ning. 08:28:47 *** ashaw [~alexis@58.108.161.163] has joined #openttd 08:52:50 *** welterde [~welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53:35 *** Biolunar__ [mahdi@blfd-4db1bd46.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: bis dann] 09:01:42 *** ashaw [~alexis@58.108.161.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:02:52 <Mazur> That chinese bloke gets a lot of time-outs, don't you think? Wonder why _he_'s so badly behaved, then. 09:03:08 <Mazur> I mean that Ping character. 09:03:33 <Mazur> ;-P 09:10:50 <planetmaker> that's definitely 5⬠into the bad pun money box 09:20:16 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F8C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:29:23 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:42:57 *** Gartral [~Gareth@99-9-202-154.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net] has left #openttd [] 09:43:58 *** Splex [~splex@n219078149145.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:22 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:45:23 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:59 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:50:40 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:54:38 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:34 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:24 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8db0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:58:56 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has joined #openttd 10:10:23 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:30:57 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 10:45:31 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 10:47:48 *** ashaw [~alexis@58.108.161.163] has joined #openttd 10:49:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.88] has joined #openttd 10:54:40 <ashaw> hello 11:01:28 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8db0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:08 *** ashaw [~alexis@58.108.161.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:47 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 11:27:43 <TrueBrain> who knows good erlang examples of node creation and monitoring? 11:28:21 *** ptr_ [~peter@wpa-n2-168.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #openttd 11:29:51 <TrueBrain> meh, wrong channel 11:30:01 <Eddi|zuHause> why can dolphin not edit mp3 tags? 11:34:54 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-228-75.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:53 <__ln__> because it lives in the water 11:37:05 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-248-85.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:37:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:41:15 <Eddi|zuHause> flies are evil... 11:41:27 <Eddi|zuHause> at least wasps have the courtesy to get out again... 11:52:26 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:6101:fa75:5bb:6d36] has joined #openttd 11:52:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:53:12 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-175-59.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 11:54:09 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.158.71] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:14:02 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.206] has joined #openttd 12:14:21 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.158.71] has joined #openttd 12:17:33 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8db0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:18:20 *** |NoobCp| [~kvirc@4.63.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 12:22:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:11 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-142-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:02 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:48 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:50:02 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe23dc00-198.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 12:54:29 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:59:45 <oskari89> Hmm. How hard it would be to implement a height clearance (from water) for bridges to ships? And with those low clearance-bridges, some openable bridges with barriers to road traffic and rail traffic? :) 13:00:42 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:00:58 <__ln__> Hard. 13:01:42 <oskari89> Would need a new pathfinder for ships 13:01:43 <oskari89> ? 13:03:55 *** IPG [~chatzilla@daisu.martos.bme.hu] has joined #openttd 13:06:08 <__ln__> Anything that requires introducing a completely new concept (such as openable bridges) must be hard. 13:07:36 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 13:09:06 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [] 13:10:55 <Belugas> hello 13:11:19 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 13:12:46 *** jack [~joachim@244.81-166-176.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:13:01 *** jack [~joachim@244.81-166-176.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 13:14:14 *** ptr_ [~peter@wpa-n2-168.kthopen.kth.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 13:14:44 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe23dc00-198.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:15:53 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 13:26:15 <Terkhen> hi Belugas 13:29:14 <Belugas> mister Terkhen, good day to you, sir :) 13:31:00 *** ptr_ [~peter@wpa-n2-168.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #openttd 13:34:21 <__ln__> does someone want to explain why menu items and button texts are in infinitivo rather than e.g. imperativo in spanish? 13:37:38 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:31 <Terkhen> infinitive is the proper verb form to talk about things that you can do, for example: "puedo guardar o cargar la partida" 13:38:37 <Terkhen> any other verb form would sound strange 13:39:36 <__ln__> but by pressing a button you are ordering the program to do something, and imperative is used in many other languages 13:40:23 <planetmaker> __ln__, in German you can use both. It's just a matter of taste 13:40:33 <planetmaker> "Gehe zum Standort" "Zum Standort gehen" 13:40:35 <glx> in french "infinitif" is used too 13:42:06 <__ln__> ookay. i guess it's also a matter of what has become the common form to use in localized texts in the 80's or so. 13:44:11 <fonsinchen> Do we have a coding style requirement about maximum line width? 13:44:41 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 13:45:59 <fonsinchen> We probably don't, but I'm inclined to introduce one, at least for my own code 13:52:11 <Noldo> what would it be? 13:52:31 <planetmaker> 3 characters 13:53:07 <fonsinchen> I'm using 80 characters right now 13:53:20 <fonsinchen> I'm aware of the problem with different tab widths, though. 13:53:49 <Belugas> tron said once: as long as it fit a standard screen 13:53:56 <Belugas> so i'd say around 80 13:54:33 * peter1138 uses 4 character tabs 13:54:45 <planetmaker> salut Belugas :-) 13:54:55 <Rubidium> what is a "standard" screen? 13:55:03 <peter1138> 1680x1050 13:55:17 <peter1138> so about 280 columns 13:55:28 <planetmaker> EGA 640x480? 13:55:34 <Rubidium> @calc 1680/1920*240 13:55:34 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 210 13:55:36 <peter1138> no such thing 13:55:45 <Rubidium> oh, my math says 210 columns :) 13:56:04 <Rubidium> guess my "standard" screen has bigger characters 13:56:20 <fonsinchen> I don't like anything more than about 100, no matter what screen I'm using 13:56:35 <peter1138> hmm, my characters are 6 pixels wide, including spacing 13:56:41 <fonsinchen> Being able to read the text is not dependent on screen width 13:57:12 <peter1138> yeah but 13:57:22 <peter1138> we'd have loads of broken up strings if we stuck to 80 13:57:48 *** |NoobCp| [~kvirc@4.63.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:53 <fonsinchen> We need some exceptions, obviously 13:58:39 <fonsinchen> like settings.h, english.txt and the like don't need to respect the line width 13:59:28 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:41 <Rubidium> neither the GPL boilerplate 14:00:29 <fonsinchen> 186 ... what a pain. 14:01:02 <peter1138> how about no line breaks, and let your editor do it ;) 14:01:05 <fonsinchen> but, OK, you don't need to read it that often 14:01:27 <fonsinchen> The indentations are lost in that case 14:02:24 <fonsinchen> We can also say "use common sense" and add X tabs when breaking a line 14:02:31 <fonsinchen> where X would need to be defined. 14:04:10 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-217-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:05:38 <fonsinchen> let's say X is 1. 14:06:15 <Rubidium> I'd rather say 2, so it doesn't look like an indentation of an if/for/while 14:06:37 <fonsinchen> OK. And lets say "when breaking a 'if (...) {' line, put the '{' on another new line without the additional indentation. 14:06:46 <fonsinchen> " 14:08:15 <fonsinchen> same goes for "for" and "while" then 14:09:07 <Rubidium> not sure about that; would look a lot like a closing 14:09:45 <fonsinchen> IMHO it makes it much easier to spot where the condition ends and the conditional code begins. 14:09:53 <Rubidium> personally I'd do 'if (foo ||\n\t\tbar) {\n\tprintf("ouch\n");\n}' 14:10:13 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:10:27 <fonsinchen> OK, we can leave that one out, then. 14:11:29 <fonsinchen> I'll add those rules to the wiki. 14:12:16 <Rubidium> uhm, not quite sure whether it's a rule 14:13:05 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:10 <fonsinchen> Which one? 14:13:27 <ccfreak2k> With the advent of pretty printers, can't you just run it through one before committing it? 14:13:57 <fonsinchen> Actually there'd only be one new rule: Line break => two tabs 14:14:51 <Rubidium> ccfreak2k: and then have a huge flux in the source code each time someone uses a slightly different version of such a tool? 14:14:52 <fonsinchen> the syntax of line-broken if/while/for can be derived from that one and the existing rule for if/while/for 14:15:28 <Rubidium> not to mention making some aligned stuff unaligned and thus removing all the overview the aligning gave 14:16:15 <Rubidium> and I've not yet found a "pretty printer" that doesn't mess up our coding style significantly 14:16:59 <fonsinchen> The two tabs after line break syntax is actually in one of the examples in the wiki 14:17:25 <fonsinchen> I'd still like to make it explicit. 14:18:51 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:20:35 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:6101:fa75:5bb:6d36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:38 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:e96e:ea45:57a2:57d3] has joined #openttd 14:22:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:22:47 <fonsinchen> btw: /* virtual */ ~FlowMapper() {} 14:22:52 <fonsinchen> is this allowed? 14:23:12 <fonsinchen> or do I have to put the '{' and '}' on separate lines? 14:23:26 *** |NoobCp| [~kvirc@4.63.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 14:25:08 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:57 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:48 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 14:32:37 <glx> fonsinchen: just do a quick search, but I think we use this form 14:42:21 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:50 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:11:15 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:39:29 *** Splex [~splex@n219078149145.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 15:40:07 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 15:40:26 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6edc.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:40:34 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:49 *** ptr_ [~peter@wpa-n2-168.kthopen.kth.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 15:53:45 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:56:40 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:46 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@68-29-34-166.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #openttd 16:20:26 <mynetdude> Hi its been awhile, but is there any way to keep a train behind the signal rather stopping inside the protected area? Here example: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8p7pCTIBbzsUwTb1lAOTsDKXMft_UwyELgbbigBa47k?feat=directlink 16:21:25 <Sacro> use presignals or path signals 16:22:36 <mynetdude> a presig as in entry/exit sigs? 16:23:04 *** V453000 [~V453000@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 16:23:11 <Sacro> Yeah 16:23:25 <Progman> presignal might not work well there, maybe you need to use path signals 16:23:50 <mynetdude> ok thanks will try that 16:25:01 <peter1138> Sacro, openttd is complete now, yeah? 16:25:15 <Sacro> peter1138: complete? 16:25:21 <mynetdude> hmm that was interesting 16:25:26 <peter1138> after i fixed that issue last night 16:25:48 <mynetdude> all paths are red but trains still pass through 16:25:54 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-248-85.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:26:04 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.12.107] has joined #openttd 16:26:11 <Sacro> hmm, perhaps 16:26:22 <Progman> mynetdude: if you use path signals you have to remove some signals as each signal is a stop location for a train 16:26:28 <Sacro> I might go after aquaeduct next :) 16:27:01 <Progman> mynetdude: http://wiki.openttd.org/Signals#Path_Signals 16:27:02 <Sacro> I would perhaps use Stop instead of Forbid 16:27:55 *** NCommand1r [~mcasadeva@m3f5736d0.tmodns.net] has joined #openttd 16:28:11 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-166-147.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:28:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:28:28 *** Socket_77 [~Socket_77@c10543-12.cutas-vgs.navigata.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:07 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:31:38 <mynetdude> so if all signals are red does that mean the train will stop when the path isn't clear? I converted all the block sigs to path 16:32:10 <peter1138> aquaeduct? 16:35:56 <jack> path signals are red by default 16:36:51 <mynetdude> yeah just realized that, thanks hmm I can see its usefulness 16:37:20 <Progman> mynetdude: as I said you have to remove some signals 16:37:23 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-166-147.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:41 <mynetdude> seems to work though, I did remove some signals trains would just stop and not go 16:39:49 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-114-18.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:41:38 <Progman> trains pass a path signal if they find a way to their target (until the next signal) and reserve this path 16:42:04 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:44:25 *** Socket_77 [~Socket_77@c10543-12.cutas-vgs.navigata.net] has left #openttd [] 16:47:15 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 16:53:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:00:09 *** TheMask96 [~martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:54 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 17:03:47 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF800D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:06:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:08:53 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.158.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:14 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:38 <mynetdude> signals are complex in this game, I try to keep 1 or 2 trains per track :P 17:22:56 <planetmaker> how boring ;-) 17:23:10 <planetmaker> 1500 trains on a 512^2 map! 17:27:35 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:34:34 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:36:00 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 17:36:40 *** George is now known as Guest1368 17:39:08 <andythenorth> hi hi 17:40:03 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 17:40:27 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19729 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3793]: The company value graph crashed the game when displaying companies with a huge amount of money. 17:41:44 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:41:51 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8db0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:42:41 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F8C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:10 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F8C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:36 *** NCommand1r [~mcasadeva@m3f5736d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:45:47 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r19730 /trunk/src/lang/ (10 files): (log message trimmed) 17:45:47 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:47 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: catalan - 12 changes by arnau 17:45:47 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: croatian - 23 changes by VoyagerOne 17:45:47 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: dutch - 26 changes by habell 17:45:49 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: french - 12 changes by glx 17:45:49 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: german - 23 changes by planetmaker 17:52:17 *** lewymati [~lewymati@89.230.159.206] has joined #openttd 18:01:38 *** moot [moot@nom.nom.delicious.strawberrycupcak.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:04 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:07:11 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 18:07:32 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 18:08:32 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:28 *** _NoobCp_ [~kvirc@4.63.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 18:18:34 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.12.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:42 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-142-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:22:37 *** |NoobCp| [~kvirc@4.63.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:26:38 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.12.107] has joined #openttd 18:30:52 <Sacro> zomg a Rubidium on my bug 18:31:30 <Rubidium> yeah, if you don't flame him... I will 18:32:55 <Sacro> haha 18:33:10 <Sacro> I wanted to flame him when he put RCs in the main release 18:33:18 <Sacro> there's a reason we have openttd-rc in AUR 18:33:33 <Sacro> you can have the stable, -rc and -svn all happily coexisting 18:33:40 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:33:55 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:38:22 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 18:39:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:39:32 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 18:54:48 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 18:54:57 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:30 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 19:04:49 *** eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:04:51 <mynetdude> does anybody know why oil wells have such a short lifespan? Oil rigs stay forever 19:04:56 <mynetdude> or they seem to 19:05:42 <Sacro> oil wells run out 19:07:02 <mynetdude> well ofc, so do coal and woods and iron ore, etc 19:07:10 *** berndj [~bernd@196.7.137.175] has joined #openttd 19:07:14 <mynetdude> but oil rigs should run out too I think??? 19:08:03 <fjb> Oil rigs only explode. 19:09:30 <mynetdude> even with disasters turned off? 19:09:37 <mynetdude> never seen a rig explode yet 19:09:50 <berndj> train A breaks down, blocking a route. train B, immediately behind, gets stuck. in some places they "bounce" between 2 signals until the route clears, but other times they get stuck "waiting for free path" looking the wrong way down a one-way PBS. train A clears and leaves, but train B now (permanently!) obstructs other trains. what am i doing wrong? 19:12:22 <planetmaker> berndj: in principle you do nothing wrong 19:12:44 <planetmaker> with the default settings that's what happens with path signals 19:13:01 <planetmaker> it doesn't happen with block signals 19:13:35 <planetmaker> you could, though, change your settings. I play with settings where trains never turn on their own 19:14:10 <planetmaker> <PublicServer> *** planetmaker has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 <-- one or more of those settings 19:14:37 <planetmaker> you can change them in the cfg (only for new games) or via console also for running 19:14:38 <berndj> planetmaker: please tell me how to do that! i just ragequit a game where two trains crashed because one auto-turned between my telling it to reverse and telling it to ignore the next signal! 19:15:19 <planetmaker> disabled means value = 0 19:15:28 <planetmaker> so in the console something like 19:15:36 <planetmaker> set wat_for_pbs_path 0 19:15:51 <planetmaker> and alike for the other signal wait times 19:16:03 <berndj> by console you mean the thing i got when i accidentally pressed '~'? :) 19:16:04 <planetmaker> console is opened with the key left of 1 19:16:10 <planetmaker> probably, yes 19:16:18 <planetmaker> it's ^ for me, though 19:16:21 <berndj> got it. thanks, i'll try it 19:16:27 <planetmaker> you're welcome 19:16:43 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff1ec000-127.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 19:18:47 <mynetdude> too bad these options are not available via GUI ;) 19:19:13 <mynetdude> though I am sure the GUI would get too cluttered with every little option, I hate console 19:19:37 <planetmaker> there's no need to change them normally 19:20:27 <planetmaker> and if you do it wrong, you'll severely screw up your pathfinder(s) and then come back crying "why does xyz not work" or "why does train 0815 do weired things" ;-) 19:20:50 <planetmaker> it has a reason to not have everything available in the GUI. Though possibly a weak reason. 19:22:14 <berndj> looks like my issue is FS#2274. good to know i'm not the only one! 19:23:24 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d35d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:44 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 19:28:11 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d1ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:24 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 19:30:33 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 19:32:10 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 19:32:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-197-241.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:40:00 <mynetdude> planetmaker that's not always a weak reason, you do have valid points 19:40:18 <mynetdude> but FWIW when things get really really effing screwed up I just start over and/or reinstall depending on how badly messed up it is 19:42:47 <Belugas> wow... 19:43:13 * Belugas just wrote a static constant array of multiple array in delphi... 19:43:24 <Belugas> looks cool... 19:45:54 * Sacro ponders learning delphi 19:46:15 <frosch123> what does it contain? the cases of the shedules test procedures and expected output? :p 19:50:57 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:58 <Belugas> http://paste.openttd.org/225718 19:51:00 <Belugas> tadam! 19:51:36 <Belugas> actually, it's more a matrix of supported operations per gift card processor 19:53:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:06:40 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8ccce.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:07 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 20:09:57 <Belugas> hehhe... topic killer :D 20:12:46 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d35d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:36 *** eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: b00b] 20:14:36 <frosch123> eddi and pm are selling unfinished features :p 20:15:01 <planetmaker> hehe :-P 20:15:26 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/spritepicker.png <- does that comply to the marketing promises? 20:16:36 <frosch123> hmm, oh the caption uses thousand separators :o 20:16:37 <planetmaker> looks promising, frosch123 :-) 20:17:23 <frosch123> I guess also adding the grfname would make it too big 20:17:54 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 20:19:07 <planetmaker> frosch123: it might be in a box below the buttons? 20:19:14 <planetmaker> it would make sense to have the grf name 20:19:20 <frosch123> cool, you can drive the trucks on firs industries with the aligment tool \o/ 20:19:34 <planetmaker> :-D 20:21:07 <frosch123> [22:19] <planetmaker> frosch123: it might be in a box below the buttons? <- hmm, it is already in the caption? 20:21:25 <planetmaker> frosch123: you said it'd be too long there? 20:21:37 <frosch123> i meant per sprite in the list 20:21:48 <planetmaker> ah. No, the name needs not go there, too. 20:21:50 <planetmaker> Agreed 20:22:01 <planetmaker> at one place it's sufficient and one can easily click through those few 20:23:01 <andythenorth> works for me 20:23:24 <andythenorth> the whole 'sprite picker' concept that is :) 20:23:38 <frosch123> hmm, the sheep are only one sprite :( 20:23:59 * andythenorth replaces trams with trucks 20:24:30 <planetmaker> lol @ frosch's sheep 20:25:03 <frosch123> and the flock pulls the fence with them 20:25:20 <andythenorth> well at least we're efficient on sprites :P 20:25:46 * andythenorth forsees a whole new feature in openttd: animate the landscape yourself 20:26:41 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:59 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:04 * andythenorth thinks "but no seriously, more narrow gauge trains are needed" 20:27:16 <andythenorth> my canset NG diesels are getting very old :( 20:27:26 <SpComb> animated sprite positions? 20:29:16 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 20:29:48 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 20:31:37 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:41 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: frosch * r19731 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Add: Spritepicker to sprite alignment tool. 20:37:02 <andythenorth> :) 20:37:49 *** The_Z [~z@92.11.105.127] has joined #openttd 20:40:02 <planetmaker> \o/ 20:40:36 * planetmaker needs to pull trunk 20:40:40 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:01 <andythenorth> OpenTTD comedy: http://tt-foundry.com/misc/dumb_placement.png 20:41:08 <andythenorth> one for the 'not worth even trying to fix' file 20:41:26 <planetmaker> :-D 20:41:30 <andythenorth> The game placed the steel mill just recently. 20:42:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:56 * andythenorth considers abolishing the power station in FIRS. It really is pointless 20:43:08 <planetmaker> hm... coal? 20:43:36 <andythenorth> goes to the steel mill 20:44:39 <andythenorth> are there any sane reasons why make would use less CPU in a hg checkout compared to svn? 20:45:01 <jack> no, cpus are insane 20:49:24 *** Hyronymus [~chatzilla@s5591a1ba.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 20:50:43 <SpComb> andythenorth: how much less? 20:52:03 <andythenorth> not sure, haven't run objective tests, but less 20:52:11 * Terkhen is happier since he uses distcc and ccache 20:53:07 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-142-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:23 <andythenorth> frosch123: sprite picker == win 20:54:45 <frosch123> :) 20:55:15 *** login [~z@92.11.105.127] has joined #openttd 20:58:32 *** lewymati [~lewymati@89.230.159.206] has quit [] 20:59:11 <Ammler> [22:40] <andythenorth> OpenTTD comedy: http://tt-foundry.com/misc/dumb_placement.png <-- same issue with airport near town 20:59:43 *** The_Z [~z@92.11.105.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:46 * andythenorth needs an intercontinental airport just for ENSP, and terraforms appropriately :P 21:03:57 <Terkhen> wow 21:04:02 <Terkhen> I usually use RVs 21:04:08 <Terkhen> big map? 21:04:12 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.12.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:14 <andythenorth> nope 21:06:00 *** The_Z [~z@92.11.105.127] has joined #openttd 21:09:42 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:05 <Belugas> bye all 21:11:09 <peter1138> g'night 21:11:24 <Belugas> "au revoir" 21:11:25 <Belugas> hehehe 21:11:28 *** login [~z@92.11.105.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:11:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6edc.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:00 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 21:22:13 *** The_Z [~z@92.11.105.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:30 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-217-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Something strange must have happened...] 21:23:57 <Eddi|zuHause> cargodist probably helps with supplies 21:24:58 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:38:33 <OwenS> Hmm... any chance we will get one way tram lines at some point? I don't even care about overtaking, it would just make things more efficient 21:51:14 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF800D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:49 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D9C49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 21:56:52 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 22:02:05 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 22:02:29 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:02:46 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:04:01 <Eddi|zuHause> how should that work? 22:04:43 <Eddi|zuHause> once upon a time it was specifically decided against one-way tram lines 22:04:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know why, though 22:04:56 *** james_ [~james@host86-167-101-247.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:34 <Rubidium> not enough map bits 22:05:48 <Rubidium> and trams not being built by towns 22:08:29 <OwenS> Aah 22:08:31 <OwenS> Shame 22:08:41 <OwenS> Trams picking the wrong route and blocking my trunk lines is evil 22:12:28 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-247-138-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:16 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:19:23 *** Visitor_58876 [~mynetdude@173.152.118.132] has joined #openttd 22:23:32 *** mynetdude [~mynetdude@68-29-34-166.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:36 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:26:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:36 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:29:39 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 22:33:52 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 22:34:34 *** _NoobCp_ [~kvirc@4.63.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net] 22:46:38 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:39 <Visitor_58876> just an off the wall question anybody seen simutrans? 22:50:31 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 22:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause> no, nobody here has ever seen simutrans 22:51:07 <Visitor_58876> oh ok I won't ask why 22:51:08 <Visitor_58876> anyway 22:51:16 <Visitor_58876> I'm just bored so I'll leave ya'll alone 22:51:30 <KenjiE20> lol 22:51:41 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you want to ask a real question next time 22:51:51 *** Visitor_58876 is now known as mynetdude 22:51:55 <mynetdude> yeah wouldn't that be the truth 22:58:07 <Eddi|zuHause> truth is overrated 22:58:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and lying to tell the truth is called "irony" 23:05:03 <mynetdude> haha 23:10:15 <Terkhen> good night 23:25:14 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:25:27 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 23:29:12 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.88] has quit [Quit: ãããã¿ãªãã] 23:34:03 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:36:32 *** fjb is now known as Guest1401 23:36:33 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F89A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:43:36 *** Guest1401 [~frank@p5485F8C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:44:31 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:52:21 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-247-138-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:33 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@188.109.255.174] has joined #openttd