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00:08:19 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... if we rescale the height level legend to fixed heights, we need as next step more height levels to create actual mountains (4000m == 160 levels at 25m per level)) 00:08:56 <Eddi|zuHause> preferably with additional steep slopes... 00:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and cliffs 00:11:29 <__ln__> actual mountains will take huge areas of map space 00:14:32 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 00:23:41 <fjb> Hm, so make more and smaller tiles, bigger houses etc., just rescale everything. :-) 00:28:47 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:56 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:36:33 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:43:48 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:44:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-143-181.broadband.corbina.ru] 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[~quassel@vs1191017.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 06:44:50 <andythenorth> hi hi 06:45:28 <Alberth> hi andy 06:52:15 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has joined #openttd 07:03:07 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 07:20:52 *** KloBass [~hadameko@193.179.62.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:21:44 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:35:31 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44:52 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 07:46:52 *** luddek [~ludde@h-92-160.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:54:32 <planetmaker> pong KingRobot 07:54:40 <planetmaker> good morning folks 07:54:47 <KingRobot> mornin' 07:55:15 <KingRobot> I posted another patch on that cursor bug if you want to take a look 07:56:29 <KingRobot> It's not a final fix because it causes some problems the other way around (making the cursor disappear when it shouldn't), but I need to know if it fixes the issue on your end. 07:56:41 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:56:46 <KingRobot> If it does, I'll clean it up and make it fix both problems. 07:56:49 <planetmaker> I haven't tested your (1st) patch under 10.4 07:57:02 <planetmaker> And yes, you're right it's most probably two completely different issues 07:57:40 <KingRobot> Are you on 10.5? 07:58:03 <KingRobot> I'm on 10 6 3 07:58:12 <planetmaker> 10.6.3 07:58:39 <planetmaker> with a bit more time at hand another day I might test on 10.4. It's on my external HD 07:59:22 <KingRobot> Do you have time to see if patch #2 fixes the issue you described? 07:59:42 <planetmaker> just testing 08:03:24 <KingRobot> Alright. Don't worry about 10.4. If this is good, I'll make them both work together and then we can test on 10.4 08:03:48 <planetmaker> works perfectly. I added a comment to FS 08:03:59 <planetmaker> what systems can you test on? 08:04:44 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 08:05:25 <KingRobot> I have a MBP and an MB, both on 10.6.3, and a install of 10.5.8 that's not up and running right now. Sadly no PPC. I wish I had a PPC for testing some of my products. 08:05:47 <planetmaker> he, yeah 08:06:08 <KingRobot> I had a G4 but it died a few months back and I haven't been able to replace it yet. 08:06:16 <planetmaker> that was PPC? 08:06:35 <KingRobot> *raised eyebrow* 08:06:43 <KingRobot> You're not a mac person, are you? 08:07:03 <planetmaker> define 'mac person' ;-) 08:07:40 <KingRobot> Someone who's used them for 10+ years or at least knows their history to that extent 08:07:43 <planetmaker> But no, I didn't study the past architectures. So I guess they were still with PPC back then 08:07:53 <KingRobot> G3 G4 G5 were all PowerPC. 08:07:55 <planetmaker> No, I didn't use them that long 08:08:20 <KingRobot> They switched to Intel after the G5 08:08:56 <planetmaker> I know that they switched ;-) 08:08:57 <peter1138> hurr, told exchange imap to require ssl and removed the non-ssl port 08:09:00 <peter1138> and ... it ignores it 08:09:06 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 08:09:28 <planetmaker> I guess I have one of the first intel macbooks 08:10:15 *** Tennel [~Tennel@141.44.229.186] has joined #openttd 08:13:58 <planetmaker> KingRobot: what problems do you expect in windowed mode? 08:14:30 <KingRobot> The cursor state isn't being set properly 08:14:58 <KingRobot> So for some reason, it doesn't unhide the cursor sometimes when coming outside the window 08:15:28 <planetmaker> hm, doesn't sound good either 08:16:01 <KingRobot> The whole thing should be reworked to be event based (triggered by entering or exiting the view window) rather than updated every time there is a mouse movement 08:16:25 <planetmaker> he :-) 08:17:05 <KingRobot> Actually I don't think it will be too bad. 08:17:07 <planetmaker> well only thing I can say it works here and now 08:17:20 <planetmaker> good job :-) 08:17:41 <KingRobot> Thanks 08:17:52 <KingRobot> Did you see the notes on the MIDI crash? 08:17:58 *** MrMessy [db5ab9b0@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:18:20 <planetmaker> yes, I saw that. Not sure what to do about it though 08:18:29 *** MrMessy [db5ab9b0@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 08:19:15 <KingRobot> Yeah, I wasn't either. 08:19:41 <KingRobot> Although I was surprised to see that the file cause no problems under windows and linux 08:20:24 <Noldo> is the corrupt file from the original TTD files? 08:20:25 <KingRobot> Several of the MIDI editors I tried to open the file with choked completely and wouldn't even open it. 08:20:48 <KingRobot> I think it's from the new sound set 08:20:59 <KingRobot> LittleBlueBoxCar or something like that 08:22:17 *** MrMessy [db5ab9b0@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:25:26 *** MrMessy [db5ab9b0@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 08:25:46 *** Tennel [~Tennel@141.44.229.186] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 08:28:44 <planetmaker> yes, it's OpenMSX 08:29:09 <planetmaker> Well, I can ask the artist to revise that song and (temporarily) remove it from OpenMSX. 08:29:20 <planetmaker> It's not something which I'm entirely happy with either, though 08:29:24 <planetmaker> It's a nice song ;-) 08:34:12 <Rubidium> so let is be caused by OpenMSX; it shouldn't crash on what is considered an invalid midi file 08:36:14 <planetmaker> yes, that's why I'm undecided on what to do :-) 08:39:06 * Alberth wonders how many NewGRFs would survive if OpenTTD used the removal policy 08:40:17 <Rubidium> almost none, cause removing NewGRFs can break OpenTTD 08:42:35 <planetmaker> :-P 08:43:09 <planetmaker> Alberth, I meant removing as in fixing. 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NewGRF kinda do that usually :-) 08:43:27 <planetmaker> well... not usually but sometimes :-P 08:53:26 <dihedral> ladies! 08:53:36 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cb28.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:54 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-215-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:01:41 *** Splex [~splex@n219078158076.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:03:25 <peter1138> men, ladies and dihedrals 09:07:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.181.98] has joined #openttd 09:08:10 *** KingRobot [~mathew@student1710.student.nau.edu] has left #openttd [] 09:12:18 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:14:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.167.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:18 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BD5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:29 *** Splex [~splex@n219078158076.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 09:55:19 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:55:19 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:06 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: hmm software update] 10:06:33 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.88] has joined #openttd 10:09:00 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC6099.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:15 *** Goulp [~Goulp@LCaen-151-92-21-4.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:25:39 *** Goulp [~Goulp@LCaen-151-92-21-4.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: PACKET_SERVER_SHUTDOWN] 10:28:15 *** exe- [~d@83.68.75.158.debica75.tnp.pl] has joined #openttd 10:34:27 *** exe-_ [~d@83.68.75.158.debica75.tnp.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:22 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:43:58 *** ptr__ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 10:45:22 * dihedral had an old nickname come back to mind he had vor yorick some time ago - but does not think yorick likes it ^^ 10:46:47 <peter1138> lobster's quit message? 10:47:18 <dihedral> what was lobsters quit message? 10:48:24 <yorick> something with vaginas 10:48:29 <peter1138> something about a vagina 10:51:08 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:52:02 *** ptr__ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:02 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:53:36 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C3F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:00 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:05:11 <dihedral> \o/ 11:05:15 *** dihedral [~dih@188.64.43.18] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 11:05:39 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:11 <dihedral> :-) 11:06:19 <peter1138> ... 11:06:29 <dihedral> ^^ 11:06:49 <dihedral> rdns finaly got fixed (on the side of the hoster) 11:09:14 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@212.80-202-26.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 11:16:52 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:52 *** ptr_ [~peter@p63-n251.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #openttd 11:45:46 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 11:46:14 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB4B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:03 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 11:49:30 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC6099.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!] 11:54:07 *** exe-_ [~d@brzesko-217.75.56.83.brzesko56.ptc.pl] has joined #openttd 11:56:48 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 11:58:25 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.203] has joined #openttd 11:58:38 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@212.80-202-26.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00:53 *** exe- [~d@83.68.75.158.debica75.tnp.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:13:42 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:45f9:c611:cf1c:e5af] has joined #openttd 12:13:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:15:44 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.153.216] has joined #openttd 12:31:32 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.22.124] has joined #openttd 12:31:46 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.22.124] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:17 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.22.124] has joined #openttd 12:42:08 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 12:42:46 *** George is now known as Guest370 12:48:37 *** Guest271 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:52 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:00:48 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 13:11:40 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:23:40 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 13:24:57 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 13:29:53 <Belugas> hello 13:31:45 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35:40 <dihedral> hey ho sir Belugas 13:51:01 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:52:33 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:51 <Alberth> hello Sir 14:09:15 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-160-90.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 14:11:46 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:19:19 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:05 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 14:22:36 *** George is now known as Guest375 14:28:18 *** Guest370 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:14 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 14:35:55 <Belugas> Hello to you two both :) 14:38:32 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:58 <dihedral> "hello to you, too, you two" :-P 14:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause> "hello to U2, you two and you, too" 14:55:54 <__ln__> "hello to U2, you to and you, too, on youtube" 14:56:23 <Eddi|zuHause> you're out. 14:56:25 <dihedral> "hello to you two, you two, too, and you two: fuck off" 14:57:06 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 14:59:21 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:03:28 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:31 *** luddek [~ludde@h-92-160.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: luddek] 15:10:32 <Belugas> lol! 15:10:40 <Belugas> i love this channel! 15:10:46 <Belugas> I really DO :D 15:12:20 <planetmaker> whom do you do? ;-) 15:13:03 * planetmaker waves hello :-) 15:15:23 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:20:24 *** NeosaD [~NeosaD@181.Red-213-98-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5235.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:47 <Belugas> hey mister maker :) 15:35:49 *** Newbie [~Newbie@dsl-240-255-236.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 15:36:12 <Newbie> Hi 15:36:17 <planetmaker> hi 15:36:46 <Newbie> How can I join a OpenTTD server? 15:36:57 <planetmaker> multiplayer -> join server 15:37:14 <Newbie> Any reason for the game to just, bomb out? 15:37:26 <planetmaker> those with a green dot are those where you meet all the requirements (correct version, correct newgrfs) 15:37:34 <planetmaker> define "bomb out" 15:38:24 <Newbie> when I click "Multiplayer", the game waits and the the screen goes black 15:39:10 <planetmaker> @ports 15:39:10 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 15:39:18 <planetmaker> ^ you made sure that the ports are open? 15:39:30 <planetmaker> at least 3979? 15:39:43 <Mazur> Well, the Ruby port is open. Want a glass? 15:39:45 <planetmaker> and 3978 if you want content download? 15:40:00 <planetmaker> Mazur, yes please. 15:40:09 <Newbie> I am really new to OpenTTD, so no 15:40:14 <planetmaker> a good port is nothing to neglect :-P 15:40:19 <Mazur> Indeed. 15:40:33 <planetmaker> Newbie, that's a setting of your operating system and /or your firewall and router 15:40:53 <Mazur> And possibly your ISP. 15:40:53 <Newbie> Ill try again 15:42:08 <Newbie> I can't manage to view any servers 15:43:22 <glx> maybe your ISP filters UDP 15:44:24 <glx> http://www.openttd.org/en/servers <-- what happens if you manually add a server from this list? 15:46:24 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-10-143.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:42 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.28.181.18] has joined #openttd 15:48:39 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-132-113.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:48:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:54:17 *** Newbie [~Newbie@dsl-240-255-236.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:13 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:36 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.22.124] has quit [] 16:27:39 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:15 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:36:20 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:48 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:49:01 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:03 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 16:52:37 *** George is now known as Guest388 16:57:14 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: frosch * r19761 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] Vehicle var 43 missed AI information in purchase list. 16:58:17 *** Guest375 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:38 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:59:30 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:15 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:08:22 *** woldemar [~osaka@213.178.34.57] has left #openttd [] 17:13:22 *** ptr_ [~peter@p63-n251.kthopen.kth.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 17:16:19 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 17:24:42 *** argkde4 [argkde4@bas5-oshawa95-1176338246.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 17:25:37 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:31 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 17:26:42 <argkde4> i've a windows installation of 1.0.1, competitors are set to 0 yet there are two competitors. is this a bug or could it be a setup problem? 17:29:26 <SmatZ> argkde4: "stop_ai 1" and "stop_ai 2" could help 17:29:44 <SmatZ> competitors won't disappear when you lower their number after they started 17:30:20 <argkde4> SmatZ: the number of competitors was set to 0 before the game was started 17:30:24 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:30:46 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 17:31:02 <frosch123> did you modifiy the difficulty settings afterwards? 17:31:53 <frosch123> i.e. setting a certain difficulty setting also sets a specific number of ais, overwriting previous settings in the ai configuration 17:32:57 *** Guest388 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:41 <argkde4> SmatZ: i get "WARNING: Company is not controlled by an AI." 17:34:01 <argkde4> oh, for 1. for 2 it told me it deleted it 17:34:37 <argkde4> SmatZ: ok, so there was no 1, but 2 and 3 were present 17:34:52 <frosch123> likey 1 is your company :) 17:35:42 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:36:03 <argkde4> frosch123: the number of AIs were frobbed after they were noticed, but nothing had been touched in the difficulty window until then 17:36:24 <Alberth> you started by loading a game? 17:36:36 <argkde4> Alberth: no, it was a new game 17:36:42 <Alberth> ok 17:45:50 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r19762 /trunk/src/lang/ (11 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:45:50 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:50 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: catalan - 3 changes by arnau 17:45:50 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: finnish - 3 changes by jpx_ 17:45:50 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: french - 3 changes by glx 17:45:51 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: german - 3 changes by planetmaker 17:45:51 <CIA-6> OpenTTD: greek - 16 changes by fumantsu 17:49:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-160-90.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:58 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-132-113.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:06 *** NeosaD [~NeosaD@181.Red-213-98-208.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: X-CRiPt 5.1 http://www.relativo.com ] 17:54:17 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-127-156.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:54:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:03:23 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 18:03:56 *** George is now known as Guest396 18:10:02 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:13:03 *** Goulp is now known as Muxy 18:20:59 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-127-156.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:21 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has joined #openttd 18:23:14 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-177-181.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:23:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:32:16 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:33:41 <andythenorth> hi hi 18:42:35 * andythenorth decides to measure the distance to work in meters 18:42:44 <andythenorth> because that's the official UK system 18:44:51 <fjb> It is the only useful system. 18:49:17 <Sacro> andythenorth: yards kthx 18:50:46 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 18:50:53 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:05 * andythenorth has solved the hovercraft problem 18:51:15 <andythenorth> which I'm sure is headline news for all viewers of this channel :P 18:52:14 <Prof_Frink> Can it be refitted to carry eels? 18:52:20 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC6099.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:51 <andythenorth> Prof_Frink: yes it can 18:53:55 <andythenorth> have you defined eels? 18:58:00 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 18:58:09 <Terkhen> :) 18:58:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:59:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:00:13 <andythenorth> eels, salamanders, lignite ore, photons, small figurines. The Porcupine hovercraft can carry them all. 19:00:20 <andythenorth> Except for passengers. Can't carry passengers. 19:02:21 <argkde4> what does it mean when the couplings between cars in the All Trains list flash red? 19:02:56 <Sacro> andythenorth: even porcupines? 19:03:45 *** Splex [~splex@n219078158076.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:04:17 <andythenorth> even porcupines. 19:04:25 <andythenorth> porcupines != passengers 19:04:30 <andythenorth> therefore they are allowed. 19:04:37 <andythenorth> no passengers though 19:06:06 <Sacro> hmm 19:06:15 <Sacro> what about a passenger disguised as a procupine 19:06:49 <Prof_Frink> What about a porcupine disguised as a passenger? 19:11:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:12 <argkde4> is there a way to debug a "train has invalid length" error? 19:16:50 <Sacro> Yes 19:16:52 <SmatZ> argkde4: download missing grfs 19:17:17 <argkde4> SmatZ: how do i tell if they're missing? 19:17:32 <andythenorth> Prof_Frink, Sacro I have no good answer to those questions :P Invent whatever answer makes you happy 19:17:40 <Sacro> argkde4: by proving the opposite 19:17:43 <SmatZ> hehe 19:17:59 <Sacro> or well, disproving 19:18:02 <argkde4> well, all the listed grfs are green, if thats proof 19:18:05 <SmatZ> argkde4: for example, check console output 19:18:18 <SmatZ> or open newgrf list and find "red dots" :-p 19:18:27 <argkde4> no red dots 19:18:29 <SmatZ> or open in-game console, and type "gamelog" 19:18:48 <SmatZ> if there is any "Removed NewGRF" item, try to download it 19:18:58 <SmatZ> but it's possible it is too late for that 19:19:15 <frosch123> it can also be just the newgrf's fault. which newgrf causes it? 19:20:16 <argkde4> is there a way to get stuff from the console into the clipboard? 19:20:59 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 19:21:10 <andythenorth> hmm 19:21:27 <andythenorth> what is the prevailing wind direction in OpenTTD? 19:22:04 <SmatZ> andythenorth: the same as in TTD 19:22:04 <argkde4> it says it removed 44440302 north american renewal set 2.03/nars2w.grf and moved 4444f000 (oldwagons-newcargos.grf) up 5 places 19:22:32 <SmatZ> "it" doesn't move anything 5 places up 19:22:36 <SmatZ> someone has to do that 19:23:09 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-177-181.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:16 <SmatZ> if someone removed a newgrf, it's likely trains from that GRF will be broken 19:23:19 <andythenorth> what is the prevailing wind direction in TTD? 19:23:25 <SmatZ> also, there's a warning for that 19:23:28 <argkde4> it says changed, past tense 19:23:32 * andythenorth thinks "probably same as OpenTTD" :| 19:24:11 <frosch123> andythenorth: compare trains smoke, with airport's wind sleeve, with oilrig flame, ... 19:24:26 <andythenorth> no prevailing wind direction :P 19:24:41 <frosch123> oh, and bubblegenbubbles 19:25:14 * andythenorth has various evil-ish ideas regarding vehicle speed 19:25:21 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-47-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:25:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:25:23 <frosch123> andythenorth: windless, and freezing cold 19:25:39 <frosch123> the wind sleeve is frozen 19:26:01 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:07 <andythenorth> I don't suppose any of you will commit a string change to trunk for me: "Max speed" or "Design speed" :P 19:26:26 <andythenorth> in resp. of me having some dumb ideas about fooling with speeds 19:26:39 <andythenorth> "Intended service speed" 19:26:41 <andythenorth> "Rated speed" 19:26:45 <argkde4> SmatZ: i don't get what you're saying about "someone" having to do this. these are the messages i get when i load the game 19:26:57 <frosch123> andythenorth: you can add extra rows to the purchase list 19:27:12 <frosch123> aren't you doing that already? 19:27:29 <andythenorth> yup 19:27:43 <andythenorth> but apparently it's unsatisfactory when I start fooling with speeds 19:27:50 <SmatZ> argkde4: can you post me the savegame somehow? 19:28:07 <andythenorth> I was thinking about something evil for hovercraft speed, which led me to thinking about something good for sailing ship speeds 19:31:32 <argkde4> SmatZ: the origin of this file is a bit odd.. it came from a windows machine running 1.0.1, but i only have 1.0.0 here on debian. so i have the original game and one i saved with 1.0.0. both of them complain on load, though, in both .0 and .1 19:31:39 <argkde4> SmatZ: so which one do you want? 19:32:19 <SmatZ> argkde4: the more recent 19:32:28 <argkde4> SmatZ: heh... by date or version? 19:32:32 <SmatZ> by date 19:32:35 <argkde4> ok 19:32:35 <frosch123> give him both :p 19:32:40 <SmatZ> hehe :) 19:34:12 <argkde4> SmatZ: http://filebin.ca/jzegcv 19:35:39 <argkde4> (thats not actually my save, i'm just a consultant here :) 19:36:23 <SmatZ> argkde4: apparently, someone DID MANUALLY remove nars2w.grf 19:36:37 <SmatZ> he received a warning that this may cause game problems/crashes 19:36:40 <SmatZ> and ignored the warning 19:36:42 <SmatZ> that's all 19:37:07 <argkde4> so without nars2w the train is too long? 19:37:33 <SmatZ> DO NOT REMOVE GRFS IN RUNNING GAME 19:37:45 * Sacro hides 19:39:56 <argkde4> SmatZ: ok.. is that game pooched now, or will it be ok with train 3 removed? 19:41:46 <frosch123> if you get train 3 (and all others affected) into a depot before the game crashes, you might have luck to continue afterwards 19:42:06 <argkde4> does it list all affected trains with their own popups, or just the first one? 19:42:23 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-160-90.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 19:42:59 <argkde4> and once it arrives at the depot, do what with it? 19:44:21 * andythenorth finds a very exciting thread about logging trucks + railroads 19:44:22 <andythenorth> http://heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=18324 19:44:29 <frosch123> maybe readd nars2 then 19:45:04 <frosch123> but that depends whether you have "support for multiple engines sets" enabled 19:45:34 * SmatZ is back 19:45:36 <frosch123> but first get all trains into a depot 19:46:33 * andythenorth contemplates an industry newgrf just for logging 19:46:52 <SmatZ> "multiple engines setts" is disabled 19:47:12 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-117-96.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:47:12 <frosch123> is there another engine grf loaded? 19:47:19 <SmatZ> yes 19:47:38 <SmatZ> about 5 19:47:41 <frosch123> :p 19:47:45 <SmatZ> and it works :) 19:48:14 <frosch123> well, then, argkde4, get al trains into a depot, make them stop there. and then continue playing 19:48:56 <SmatZ> probably only Train3 needs sending to depot 19:49:12 <SmatZ> +selling 19:49:31 * andythenorth ponders 19:49:45 <argkde4> ok, so he's made it to 1981 without sending train 3 to the depot.. all the rest of the trains have been converted to electric 19:50:43 *** murr5y [~murray@89.84-49-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:50:51 <argkde4> and i take it that it shouldn't have been able to have all those grfs loaded without "support for multiple engines sets" enabled? 19:51:50 <andythenorth> tree-length logs, scrap wood, lumber, pulp, paper, gravel, machinery, water, food, fuel, workers, chemicals, creosote 19:51:51 <SmatZ> mixing engine sets without having "support multiple engine sets" enabled can result in strange errors 19:52:06 <andythenorth> any other logging cargos? 19:52:13 <frosch123> the engines overwrite each other, the last one wins 19:53:12 <Alberth> andythenorth: 'workers' usually need a nice comortable passenger wagon, I don't see how that classifies as logging cargo :) 19:53:33 <frosch123> so one set might define a engine with a tender, and some other grf overwrites the tender with a maglev, or the engine with a wagon, or what soever 19:53:35 <Alberth> spare engine parts 19:53:46 <Alberth> repair crews 19:53:52 <andythenorth> dynamite! 19:53:54 <Alberth> wood re-planters 19:54:06 <andythenorth> environmentalists! 19:54:10 <andythenorth> (tree-huggers_ 19:54:11 <Alberth> police 19:54:20 <andythenorth> equipment thieves 19:54:24 <argkde4> mounties! :) 19:54:25 <andythenorth> hunters 19:54:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-160-90.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:33 <Alberth> fire men 19:54:54 <Alberth> heli copters for lifiting wood out of the forest 19:55:00 <argkde4> and forest fires to go with them? 19:55:10 <andythenorth> heli logging :) 19:55:16 *** murr4y [~murray@89.84-49-66.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:37 <andythenorth> http://heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=17941 19:55:39 <Alberth> double cargo! forest->water a tree, water->forest water for fire extinguishing 19:55:41 *** lolman [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:24 <andythenorth> ah it would be a nice chain :) 19:56:49 * andythenorth adds it to the list of things that might happen 'one day' 19:59:19 <argkde4> SmatZ: frosch123: thanks for the help, he's decided to continue playing that game in spite of the potential for crashing 20:00:58 <andythenorth> Steel mill industry chain! 20:00:59 <andythenorth> http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=323142&nseq=1 20:01:02 <andythenorth> http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=323141&nseq=0 20:01:44 <andythenorth> Coal, coke, iron ore, scrap metal, slag, equipment, steel 20:01:46 <andythenorth> hmmm 20:02:08 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 20:02:41 <frosch123> yeah, add a train transporting liquid steel from the steelmill to the roller plant. if it breaks down or drives too long, wagon capacity reduces to zero :p 20:04:52 <Alberth> and it becomes scrap steel :) 20:04:54 <andythenorth> hmmm 20:05:04 <andythenorth> I can probably measure days in transit 20:05:12 <andythenorth> but I dunno if I can reset a wagon's cargo :P 20:05:18 <andythenorth> or change the capacity without visiting a depot 20:06:03 <frosch123> you also have no persistant storage in a wagon, everything is reset in depot 20:06:15 <andythenorth> I keep forgetting that :P 20:06:22 <andythenorth> I'm in a world of industry code 20:09:39 *** lolman [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:10:17 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.153.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:40 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:15:15 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.28.181.18] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:21 * andythenorth thinks of an unusual vehicle: hot metal 'torpedo' car hauled by front loader 20:15:21 <andythenorth> http://heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=14724&page=2 20:16:56 <SmatZ> andythenorth: the link doesn't work 20:17:03 <andythenorth> ?? 20:17:38 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-47-246.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:39 <SmatZ> unknown host heavyequipmentforums.com 20:17:39 <andythenorth> http://heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showpost.php?p=187683&postcount=19 20:17:48 <andythenorth> hmm they have dns trouble sometimes 20:18:00 <Terkhen> it is... very unusual 20:18:21 <frosch123> link works for me 20:18:50 * andythenorth wonders where ship movement code is 20:19:01 <Rubidium> andythenorth: aren't those (primarily) used for transporting molten steel between locations in the same plant? 20:19:08 <andythenorth> yes 20:19:09 <frosch123> hmm, liquid steel in ship? 20:19:14 <andythenorth> nope 20:19:21 <Rubidium> i.e. it's pointless to transport them over "openttd" rail 20:19:52 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-36-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:19:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:19:54 <glx> it's not realistic ;) 20:20:01 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 20:20:22 <andythenorth> Rubidium: if 'blast furnace' was one industry and 'rolling mill' was another then there would be a point.... 20:20:49 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: actually, it's "too" realistic. it doesn't fit within the game concept 20:21:11 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:25 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:21:26 <Terkhen> that's a lot of micromanaging 20:21:28 <Terkhen> hi Nite_Owl 20:21:33 <andythenorth> it fits in a 'steel industry' newgrf :P 20:21:40 <Nite_Owl> Hello Terkhen 20:21:52 <andythenorth> I'm not proposing to code that though. I'm just fooling around. 20:22:16 <andythenorth> meanwhile, what makes a tile TRANSPORT_WATER 20:22:18 <andythenorth> ?? 20:22:44 *** Jolteon [~Jolt@rdlbnc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:46 <Rubidium> andythenorth: nothing makes a tile TRANSPORT_WATER 20:23:32 <Rubidium> you can only have transport of TRANSPORT_WATER on a tile and even TRANSPORT_RAIL and TRANSPORT_WATER on the same tile 20:23:47 <Rubidium> (not talking about aqueducts here) 20:24:26 <frosch123> but there are only 4 of those tiles 20:24:34 * andythenorth wants to fool around and is looking for a way to make all tiles TRANSPORT_WATER.... 20:25:09 *** PeterT [~PeterT@rdlbnc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:25:47 <Terkhen> use a huge TILE_LOOP 20:26:07 <Rubidium> landscape.cpp 20:26:20 <andythenorth> thanks 20:26:46 *** Redirect_Left [~rdl@5ad09081.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:27:13 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc22a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:17 <Rubidium> and always return a non TRACKBIT_NONE track status when TRANSPORT_WATER is requested 20:27:20 <frosch123> [22:19] <Rubidium> andythenorth: aren't those (primarily) used for transporting molten steel between locations in the same plant? <- actually ~20 km distance are normal 20:27:42 <andythenorth> bah. 20:27:54 <Rubidium> frosch123: so less than 1/30th of a tile 20:28:03 <andythenorth> every time I try and hack the game I run smack bang into my lack of proper programming understanding :P 20:28:20 <peter1138> or 400 tiles, depending on which scale you're using :) 20:28:22 <andythenorth> I can read the syntax fine, but my brain doesn't do the logic properly 20:28:45 <Rubidium> andythenorth: only problem you'll get into is that... well the ship pathfinder will go crazy 20:29:05 <andythenorth> among other things...I wondered how it would cope with slopes 20:29:31 <frosch123> andythenorth: and you should make sure you to not make the map border traversable, or ships will fall of the plate 20:29:37 <andythenorth> ha ha 20:29:38 <frosch123> s/plate/disc/ 20:29:54 <andythenorth> this was a hovercraft-related project :) 20:30:05 <frosch123> [22:29] <andythenorth> among other things...I wondered how it would cope with slopes <- just as the lock does 20:30:05 <andythenorth> but also, these are fun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUKW 20:30:15 <argkde4> the edges don't wrap around? thats no fun 20:30:18 <peter1138> hmm, circular map 20:30:36 <Rubidium> andythenorth: those stink enormously 20:30:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:48 * andythenorth wonders if it's easier to make all tiles TRANSPORT_WATER or to make ship pathfinder ignore tile type 20:31:13 <frosch123> the former 20:33:48 <frosch123> GetTileTrackStatus <- try adding a "if (mode == TRANSPORT_WATER) return CombineTrackStatus(TRACKDIR_BIT_MASK, TRACKDIR_BIT_NONE);" 20:34:38 <frosch123> unless the pathfinder check for explicit tiletypes (they usually do for penalties, but maybe not for ships), that might be enough 20:35:22 * andythenorth tries it 20:38:38 <frosch123> so, if trains crash road vehicles at level crossing without noticing, can then overcraft crash trains without noticing? 20:38:42 *** PeterT [~PeterT@rdlbnc.com] has joined #openttd 20:38:49 <frosch123> +h 20:39:00 *** Jolteon [~Jolt@rdlbnc.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:20 <andythenorth> large hovercraft will cross obstacles several meters high... 20:39:31 <frosch123> try ttrs buildings then 20:39:38 <andythenorth> or several feet, for those in the uk :P 20:39:51 * andythenorth blows up the game :P 20:40:18 <Nite_Owl> boom ?? 20:40:27 <frosch123> why do they measure height in feet? isn't a foot more long than high? 20:40:38 <SmatZ> hehe 20:40:54 *** murr5y is now known as murr4y 20:41:29 <frosch123> andythenorth: maybe add an " && IsValidTile(tile)" to the if 20:41:43 <andythenorth> http://tt-foundry.com/misc/hovercraft_ha.png 20:41:43 <peter1138> just say "Yes" to the pathfinder 20:41:51 <peter1138> let all vehicles travel on any tile :D 20:42:16 <andythenorth> partial win, partial fail :) 20:43:38 <andythenorth> the error says I should send information to the developers. who would that be in this case :P 20:43:47 <peter1138> you 20:44:05 <andythenorth> bah 20:44:16 *** Redirect_Left [~rdl@5ad09081.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Next Thing: We're touching.] 20:44:28 <Jolteon> right. 20:44:30 <Jolteon> there we go 20:44:47 <andythenorth> Jolteon: you coded hovercraft on land? 20:44:49 <Jolteon> got OpenTTD working! 20:44:52 *** ptr_ [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:44:53 <Jolteon> eh 20:44:53 <Jolteon> no 20:47:08 <andythenorth> frosch123: I tried && IsValidTile(tile), still blows up :) 20:47:48 <frosch123> then compile without assertions 20:48:17 <Terkhen> I just tried too: segfault 20:48:46 <frosch123> oh, segfault :o i expected some assert due to wrong tiletype 20:49:55 <andythenorth> well it makes a change from crashes due to fooling with a string code in nfo 20:52:25 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe23dc00-198.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20:53:00 <frosch123> VehicleEnterTile <- hmm, so it also needs some work there 20:55:22 <frosch123> if (_tile_type_procs[GetTileType(tile)]->vehicle_enter_tile_proc == NULL) return VETSB_CONTINUE; <- andythenorth: add that line to VehicleEnterTile 20:56:42 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:57:36 <frosch123> hmm, ships have quite a hard time to enter the depot with that patch though :p 20:57:44 <andythenorth> in vehicle.cpp? 20:57:49 <frosch123> yes 20:58:42 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: it doesn't hover 3m above ground :p 20:59:03 <Eddi|zuHause> (re: hovercraft and train) 20:59:20 <frosch123> oh, it still crashes, but it took some time to 20:59:22 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc22a8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:43 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-215-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:51 <andythenorth> frosch123: I find that amusing 21:03:03 <andythenorth> resp. hovercraft on land (not the crash) 21:03:39 <frosch123> i used a regular cargo ship, no hovercraft was available 21:04:39 <andythenorth> :) 21:05:21 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/screenshots/crazy_hovercrafts_1.png http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/screenshots/crazy_hovercrafts_2.png <--- ships without orders like the north 21:07:32 <frosch123> :p 21:07:34 <frosch123> night 21:07:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5235.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:47 *** DX_Ipad [Dreamxtrem@client-86-29-100-183.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:05 <andythenorth> Terkhen: :) 21:21:01 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:21:18 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:22 *** Eoin_ is now known as Eoin 21:22:27 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:22:44 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@client-86-29-41-87.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:24:15 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:27:01 *** Eoin__ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:27:14 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:38 *** Eoin__ is now known as Eoin_ 21:27:59 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:04 *** Eoin_ is now known as Eoin 21:28:24 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:39 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 21:38:30 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:34 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:38:40 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 21:45:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-117-96.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:45:34 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:52:24 *** Eoin_ [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:53:26 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:50 *** Eoin_ is now known as Eoin 21:58:59 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 22:00:28 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:03:53 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:12:34 *** Devedse [~Devedse@cable-213-34-232-56.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 22:13:49 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 22:15:22 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:32 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:23:05 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 22:27:26 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC6099.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!] 22:30:03 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:38 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB4B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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