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00:05:18 *** tartanterrorist [~Miranda@5ad4d707.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:05:48 <tartanterrorist> guys, whats the criteria to open the monorail option? a certain amount of money or a certain amount of time? 00:07:06 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 00:07:33 <tartanterrorist> anyone? 00:07:38 *** George is now known as Guest615 00:09:31 *** George34 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 00:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause> monorails appear after a certain date (if you don't use newgrfs, most disable monorail) 00:11:20 <Eddi|zuHause> then, you have to click and hold the rail icon, to get to the monorail menu 00:11:20 <tartanterrorist> ah cool 00:11:27 <tartanterrorist> you know what date? 00:11:37 <tartanterrorist> or year 00:11:54 <Eddi|zuHause> short after 2000, i believe 00:12:08 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe 2010 00:12:30 <SmatZ> monorail appears in ~1999 00:12:37 <SmatZ> maglev appears in ~2019 00:12:44 <SmatZ> in temperate climate 00:13:12 <tartanterrorist> bah, 9 years away, how do i cheat and make it available now? 00:13:30 <SmatZ> ctrl+alt+c 00:14:12 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:21 <tartanterrorist> perfect 00:14:44 <tartanterrorist> one last question, is there a reason for oil refinerys having different colours? 00:15:42 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:15:51 <Eddi|zuHause> factories do that as well 00:16:16 <Eddi|zuHause> it's pure eyecandy 00:16:31 <tartanterrorist> cool cool 00:16:33 <tartanterrorist> thanks 00:16:34 <tartanterrorist> all 00:16:37 *** Guest615 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:57 *** Uresu [~Wes@81.171.145.94] has joined #openttd 00:19:31 *** jpx [jpx_@a91-156-254-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 00:19:39 <elho> hmm. is tramway availability encoded in savegames and kept when using it as a scenario? 00:20:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20:56 <SmatZ> tramway availability is per-company 00:20:59 <SmatZ> (iirc) 00:20:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: smatz * r19957 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: remove VLW_WAYPOINT_LIST 00:20:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: smatz * r19958 /trunk/src/ (station.cpp waypoint.cpp): -Codechange: move common code from Waypoint and Station destructors to BaseStation destructor 00:21:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:21:18 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 00:22:03 <SmatZ> that holds at least for rails - when one company is offered experimental monorail, it can build monoral track 00:22:08 <SmatZ> while other companies can't 00:22:21 <elho> hmm 00:23:07 <elho> is there another way, to just play a completely new game (settings and tram wise ;)) on a map from an old savegame? 00:23:44 *** Uresu [~Wes@81.171.145.94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:08 <SmatZ> I think - rename game to .scn, open in SE, use "reset landscape" 00:24:15 <SmatZ> roads and trams could stay 00:24:19 <SmatZ> some, at least 00:24:58 <elho> reset was what i did not do before, let's try... 00:26:40 <elho> (as it was a 1st Jan 1950 savegame without anything cbuilt) 00:29:20 <elho> nope, still no trams 00:31:34 <Yexo> ddi you actually add a tram newgrf in the game? not just in the main menu? 00:32:42 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-192-103.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:47 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-44-94.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:34:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 00:45:15 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:50:15 *** Yexo [~Yexo@183-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:52:42 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-44-94.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:54:48 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-28-164.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:54:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:01:59 *** tartanterrorist [~Miranda@5ad4d707.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 01:03:36 <elho> duh, when i did, i just closed the dialog sike all the other settings work instead of hitting apply changes :P 01:04:11 <elho> sweet. just hope the crash warning on doing so does not apply to the stock trams ;) 01:07:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-116-68.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12:27 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-128-62.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18:42 <Belugas> applies to anythin you add mid-game 01:18:59 <Belugas> it might or might not crash 01:19:09 <Belugas> it's just a chance taken 01:49:00 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cfa5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 02:02:12 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-165-128-62.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 02:14:50 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@client-86-31-243-12.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: I was raided by the FBI and 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[mindlesstu@mindlesstux-2-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #openttd 11:51:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:52:10 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.25.100.107] has joined #openttd 11:54:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 12:05:31 <peter1138> oh hai 12:08:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.171.76] has joined #openttd 12:09:36 *** aditsu [~aditsu@n1164983209.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 12:10:06 <aditsu> hi, is it possible to change the maintenance interval for all the trains? 12:11:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7759E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:07 <peter1138> as far as i know, no. only the default, and then individually, but not en-mass :( 12:12:23 <peter1138> (i could be wrong though) 12:12:41 <aditsu> even the default doesn't seem to apply to autoreplace 12:15:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7493B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:38 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:15 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:4981:3dea:96ca:9280] has joined #openttd 12:19:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:19:17 <peter1138> well servicing is different to replacement 12:22:11 <aditsu> yes, but when autoreplacing, I would hope the new vehicle to use the default interval 12:26:02 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:40 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:36:13 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 12:40:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:44:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7759E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:51 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined 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www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/screenshot6.png 13:40:48 <Alberth> they must have found a faster route 13:41:38 <glx> the loops are nice 13:42:17 <glx> was probably less expensive to build around the mountains instead through them 13:43:03 <Eddi|zuHause> the height differences are the biggest problem, i believe 13:43:37 <glx> that too yes 13:43:50 <theholyduck> Eddi|zuHause, you should see the stelvio pass 13:44:04 <glx> they built using locomotion style ;) 13:44:05 <theholyduck> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stelvio.jpg 13:44:34 <glx> theholyduck: that's not a train line 13:44:39 *** Guest660 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:42 <theholyduck> well true :P 13:44:47 <theholyduck> but trains suck at steep gradients 13:44:49 <theholyduck> even more than cars 13:44:55 <theholyduck> so if you have to do that with cars 13:45:09 <theholyduck> imagine what you'd have to do with trains? 13:45:32 <glx> I just imagine buses and cars with trailer ;) 13:45:51 <Eddi|zuHause> two of them in opposite directions :) 13:46:31 <theholyduck> theres an even longer and bigger zigzag line in romania 13:47:07 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:11 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a road in the andes, but i don't remember where... 13:47:46 <theholyduck> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransfÄgÄrÄÅan 13:50:31 <Eddi|zuHause> air distance: 5km, height difference: 400m, maximum grade: 3,5%, resulting track distance: 12km 13:52:49 <Eddi|zuHause> (talking about the RhÀtische Bahn again) 13:53:19 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe32dc00-253.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:54:59 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:55 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:58:16 *** Devroush|2 [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:58:58 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] 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but unlike the loan buttons, it does only half (5 days) 14:56:52 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 14:59:23 <Alberth> I didn't even consider ctl+click :) 15:00:05 <aditsu> ctrl-click on "borrow" borrows max; ctrl-click on "repay" repays all you can 15:00:38 <Alberth> yeah, so the maintenance interval does just the other thing 15:00:50 <Alberth> doesn't sound very consistent :) 15:01:42 *** MindlessTux [mindlesstu@mindlesstux-2-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:43 *** elmz [~elmz@222.80-202-29.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:27 * Alberth ponders better increment/decrement counts 15:12:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:19:13 *** MindlessTux [mindlesstu@mindlesstux-2-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:55 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:21 *** zodttd 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ChooChoo could start to learn about tunnels... 15:53:50 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... "The cheapest engine to pull 'Niederbordwagenà at full speed (60) is 'BR 152 (E52) (Elektrisch)'" <-- how the hell does one get to that conclusion? 15:54:14 <Eddi|zuHause> s/Ã/'/ 15:55:45 * Alberth guesses: looking at max speed of the wagon, then finding the cheapest locomotive with at least that speed? 15:56:12 <De_Ghosty> you also have to look at hp to see how fast it acceleerate 15:56:47 <Alberth> De_Ghosty: then your tracks are too short :p 15:58:17 <Alberth> since Eddi|zuHause didn't sound like that locomotive is a sane choice, I guess hp is not optimal :) 15:58:21 <OwenS> Alberth: Or too hilly :p 15:59:01 <Alberth> only when going up :p 16:18:31 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19:20 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:43 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.25.100.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:33:22 *** Yexo [~Yexo@183-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:34:03 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Not here] 16:34:50 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:38:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc3af.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:47:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BF5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:53:23 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 16:54:21 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:55:28 *** MindlessTux [mindlesstu@mindlesstux-2-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [] 16:56:15 <Eddi|zuHause> the electrics are _extremely_ more expensive than the steam engines of that time... 16:57:21 *** TrueBrain [~patric@145.118.72.132] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:59:49 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 17:18:36 *** woldemar [~maru@213.178.34.57] has joined #openttd 17:20:27 *** TrueBrain [~patric@145.118.72.132] has joined #openttd 17:20:28 <Belugas> barf... all the cute girls were not really visib 17:20:30 <Belugas> le 17:20:35 <Belugas> fucking crowd :S 17:22:53 <SmatZ> where have you been, Belugas? 17:27:18 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@f234099.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:27:36 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 17:28:11 *** George is now known as Guest688 17:28:47 <Belugas> around the F1 circus that's in town right now, SmatZ 17:29:51 <Belugas> so there are many stands with a lot of cars and (obviously) car girls, i was very interested to shhot some pictures, but it was way too crowdy for anythng valuable 17:31:51 <Belugas> i was on downtown as well on notre dame's island 17:31:57 <Belugas> same joke everywhere 17:32:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:33:37 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@f234099.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:07 *** Guest664 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:07 <frosch123> s/car girls/pithussies/ 17:45:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r19960 /trunk/src/lang/ (french.txt serbian.txt unfinished/irish.txt): 17:45:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 45 changes by ElNounch 17:45:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: irish - 51 changes by tem 17:45:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: serbian - 2 changes by etran 17:57:19 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbaa2c2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:49 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8311.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:20:53 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:59 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: kthxbai] 18:24:23 *** woldemar [~maru@213.178.34.57] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host226-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:25:42 <Wolf01> hi 18:31:10 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 18:33:07 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:07 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:34:17 *** woldemar [~maru@213.178.34.57] has joined #openttd 18:34:46 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:36:21 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 18:37:01 *** George is now known as Guest693 18:39:17 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:39:33 *** Adambean` [adamr@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 18:42:47 *** Guest688 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:48 <Wolf01> -40? 18:45:41 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 18:49:17 <Alberth> is there a meaning attached to that number? 18:49:32 <Wolf01> 19960 18:49:39 <Alberth> oh 18:49:53 <Wolf01> if I'm not wrong 18:50:17 <Alberth> the log says you are not 18:51:05 <Wolf01> I should update the sloped roadsops to tip... but I don't have enough will :( 18:51:20 <SpComb> Unlocked r20k Achievement 18:51:33 <Wolf01> 150 points 19:08:34 *** aditsu [~aditsu@n1164983209.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100504124411]] 19:09:57 *** Westie [~westie@starfish.typefish.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 19:13:21 *** Starn [~Starn@adsl-68-90-157-48.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:22 <Starn> Hello everyone. 19:18:55 <planetmaker> g'day 19:28:44 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-254-168.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:31:53 <Belugas> THE DAY IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG 19:32:42 <planetmaker> the day's over ;-) 19:32:46 <planetmaker> hi Belugas 19:33:06 <Belugas> 'ts over when the sun's over :S 19:33:10 <Belugas> hey planetmaker :) 19:33:11 <planetmaker> but it was a looong day, working non-stop from 9 - 21h 19:33:46 <Belugas> yurk 19:34:12 <planetmaker> well, there was a short working lunch, but alas... VERY successful :-) 19:34:23 <SmatZ> :-) 19:36:28 * planetmaker gathered several thousand images today ;-) 19:36:37 *** Starn [~Starn@adsl-68-90-157-48.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has left #openttd [] 19:37:17 <planetmaker> ^ that's by concensus supposed to hook on Belugas :-P 19:37:51 <Alberth> s/images/photos/ :) 19:37:53 <Belugas> ho?? 19:37:56 <Belugas> PHOTOS!!! 19:38:07 <Belugas> BIG LENSES! 19:38:08 <planetmaker> :-) 19:38:18 <planetmaker> hm... unique lenses :-) 19:38:21 <Belugas> sight... where are the girls ? :( 19:38:38 <Belugas> several THOUSANDS? 19:38:47 <Belugas> ho... true... big card 19:39:02 <frosch123> Belugas: even 3d pictures :p 19:39:17 <planetmaker> :-) 19:39:29 <planetmaker> Belugas: only three with my camera ;-) 19:39:45 <planetmaker> The others with ... well ... my work place's camera 19:40:29 <Belugas> wait a sec you there... you now have 2? 19:41:00 <planetmaker> no :-) 19:41:23 <planetmaker> My workplace toy is not my personal one. And it's rather a video camera. Just a very fast one :-) 19:41:57 <planetmaker> And today I got to play - actually rather test for performance - a new 3D microscope :-) 19:43:33 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 19:44:26 <Belugas> ho... wow! 19:46:07 <planetmaker> I'm quite impressed I have to admit :-) 19:46:14 <Terkhen> sounds fun :) 19:46:24 <planetmaker> A nice toy... and I was even offered to get one of those :-) 19:48:48 <planetmaker> we will see how it works out :-) 19:49:04 <frosch123> [21:46] <planetmaker> A nice toy... and I was even offered to get one of those :-) <- but you declined in favour of belugas? 19:52:53 <Belugas> well... i've got a nice macro lens, i doubt i could really use a micro lens as well :) 19:53:11 <Belugas> mmh... correction.. my wife has a macro lens... not me:S 19:53:31 <frosch123> :p 19:53:53 <planetmaker> :-P 19:54:26 <planetmaker> Belugas: the field of view is only mm^3- you might want to aim at more usually... 19:54:40 <planetmaker> (at least in cross-section ;-) ) 20:04:24 <Belugas> like... VERY small! 20:04:34 <Belugas> good way to practice manul focus ^_^ 20:04:54 <Alberth> girls tend to be slightly larger :) 20:06:34 <planetmaker> luckily! 20:09:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-98-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:10:41 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@salieri.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:12:14 <SmatZ> 00000A3E 2401 and al,0x1 20:12:16 <SmatZ> 00000A40 84C0 test al,al 20:12:46 <SmatZ> what compiler could generate that :-/ 20:13:35 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Not here] 20:13:44 <SpComb> perhaps it's exploiting some cpu hardware bug side effects for performance optimization 20:14:05 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:17:43 <Alberth> A intel compiler at a AMD processor? :p 20:17:55 <Wolf01> lol 20:18:43 <Alberth> Wolf01: I read not so long ago, that intel really tweaked the compiler to perform better at their processor 20:19:52 <Wolf01> Yeah, I read it too 20:20:32 <Wolf01> at SlashDot, maybe 20:21:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19961 /trunk/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Unify "vehicle is destroyed" errors. 20:21:24 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe32dc00-253.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20:22:41 <SpComb> 39! 20:26:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19962 /trunk/src/lang/ (49 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup: Remove unused "destroyed vehicle" strings. 20:30:33 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19963 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Add: Stop a vehicle after it crashes or is destroyed. 20:31:09 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:33:45 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r19964 /trunk/src/vehicle_cmd.cpp: -Add: Show an error message when trying to start a crashed or destroyed vehicle. 20:34:16 <frosch123> @calc 39! 20:34:16 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1) 20:34:29 <frosch123> @calc factorial(39) 20:34:30 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: 'factorial' is not a defined function. 20:34:35 <frosch123> @calc fac(39) 20:34:35 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: 'fac' is not a defined function. 20:34:42 <frosch123> well, too many 20:34:49 <planetmaker> @calc 3! 20:34:50 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1) 20:36:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.175.14] has joined #openttd 20:41:41 <Alberth> frosch123: Python thinks it is 20397882081197443358640281739902897356800000000 20:42:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.171.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:52 <Terkhen> speedcrunch says 2.03978820811974433586e46 20:43:37 <Alberth> close enough :) 20:47:36 <frosch123> hmm, why are the 8 zeros at the end? i count only seven 5-factors in 39! 20:47:58 <frosch123> oh, no 25 has two 20:48:06 <planetmaker> frosch123: 20:48:36 <planetmaker> 5*2*10*20*30*35*32*22*25*12*15 20:49:08 <planetmaker> =10*10*10*10*10*10*10 *x 20:49:14 <frosch123> planetmaker: i did not doubt that there are enough 2-factors :) 20:49:20 <planetmaker> ;-) 20:52:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.250.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:37 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.250.146] has joined #openttd 21:02:36 *** orudge_ [~orudge@75-149-149-225-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:01 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-daf6e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 21:09:24 <Alberth> frosch123: it seems, it skips 5 zeroes when multiplying with 25: http://paste.openttd.org/225918 21:10:02 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:10:07 <frosch123> Alberth: hint, 25 = 5*5 21:10:18 <frosch123> you only get a 0 with every pair of 5 and 2 21:10:31 <frosch123> as every second number has at least one factor 2, only the 5 are limiting 21:10:36 <frosch123> :p 21:10:44 <frosch123> sorry, mathematican :p 21:12:37 <frosch123> oh, he left :s 21:12:52 <frosch123> fail :/ 21:13:39 <planetmaker> prime factor analysis? :-) 21:14:02 <planetmaker> then enjoy the prime factors of 39! ;-) 21:14:24 <Wolf01> and 69! 21:15:01 <planetmaker> :-P 21:15:15 <planetmaker> Wolf01: that's usually XX or XY :-P 21:18:49 *** woldemar [~maru@213.178.34.57] has quit [Quit: ã§ãã¯æ»çšœãããªãã§ããç§ã¯æ¬æ°ã§ãã] 21:18:51 <Wolf01> I once amused my friends telling them that the last cypher of the multiplication of all the prime numbers is 0 and how to calculate it (2*5) :D 21:34:02 <andythenorth> "for certain definitions of amused" :P 21:34:33 <frosch123> the sum of two even primes always has an integer root 21:42:18 <SmatZ> "0 21:42:19 <SmatZ> :) 21:43:42 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:29 <planetmaker> SmatZ: no ;-) 22:02:12 <SmatZ> planetmaker: now I am completely lost :) 22:02:29 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:02:34 <SmatZ> but I am happy you had successful day :) 22:02:34 <planetmaker> SmatZ: the only even prime is 2. 22:02:49 <planetmaker> 2+2 = 4; sqrt(2) = 2 = int number 22:02:55 <SmatZ> "two even primes" is just ... 2 and 2 22:02:57 <SmatZ> oh 22:03:00 <SmatZ> [23:42:21] <SmatZ> "0 22:03:02 <SmatZ> you mean this 22:03:08 <planetmaker> yup 22:03:19 <SmatZ> that's my fault, with czech layout, I type "0 instead of :) 22:03:25 <planetmaker> :-P 22:03:27 <SmatZ> :) 22:04:01 <planetmaker> two is the only true odd prime ;-) 22:04:23 <SmatZ> :-) 22:04:30 <planetmaker> but for now: good night :-) 22:04:41 <SmatZ> good night Ingo :) 22:05:36 <frosch123> also night 22:05:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc3af.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:58 * andythenorth sticks it out and writes some code :P 22:09:02 <Terkhen> good night from me too 22:09:50 <SmatZ> good night, Terkhen 22:19:52 <Eddi|zuHause> how does an AI cause a train crash? 22:21:02 <SmatZ> the same way a human does that 22:21:36 <SmatZ> ignoring signals, removing signals, building track between two trains, flooding depot 22:21:42 <Eddi|zuHause> but why would an AI meddle with that? 22:21:51 <SmatZ> well 22:21:59 <SmatZ> it can build depot at sea level 22:22:07 <SmatZ> and someone else can flood it 22:22:12 <SmatZ> (even itself can) 22:22:22 <SmatZ> *the AI itself 22:23:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i see nothing wrong with the track layout... 22:23:54 <Eddi|zuHause> one train entering a terminus station, another train exiting 22:23:58 <Eddi|zuHause> both crossing paths 22:24:10 <Eddi|zuHause> BOOM! 22:26:15 <Zuu> SmatZ: In the 84-base number that CluelessPlus uses to create unique station names : is zero and ) is one. All numbers are printed as a two-symbol number with a leading zero. 22:26:42 <Zuu> IIRC 'D' is two 22:26:43 *** heffer_ [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 22:27:32 <SmatZ> Zuu: hehehe :) 22:27:35 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:18 <Zuu> I think there are about ten or so symbols that make sense as a smiley before odd combinations are produced. 22:28:24 <SmatZ> :) 22:29:48 <Zuu> I could have used a smiley table that then would allow using other eye-symbols than the colon to give even more combinations but then I would have to have a separate solution for when the smielys run out and other characters are needed just to make it in practice fail proof. 22:30:57 <Zuu> Good night 22:31:01 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-daf6e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:35:40 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbaa2c2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:27 <Eddi|zuHause> hmmm... trAIns crashed with "could not build the locomotive" 22:54:40 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 23:00:57 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 23:01:10 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:35 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27:02 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB2F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 23:33:31 *** heffer_ [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: heffer_] 23:37:56 *** Adambean` [adamr@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 23:39:17 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i have a feeling the level-crossing-prevention penalty doesn't work... 23:39:31 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a bridge directly next to the level crossing, and the vehicles don't use it 23:51:18 <Wolf01> 'night all 23:51:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host226-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:51:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.250.146] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2]