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00:04:40 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@c122-108-245-233.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]] 00:18:47 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i think none of the entries in the "unofficial mac binaries" thread was ever "thanks this worked" 00:20:48 <ccfreak2k> If the game works, what's their incentive to post? 00:36:23 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@c122-108-245-233.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:36:36 <Pikka> gentlemen 00:36:48 <Pikka> was that test grf any use to you, Yexo? 00:43:26 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:25 *** Cornholio [~C@88.251.108.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:58 <Pikka> also, is there an orudge in the house? 00:52:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-202-213.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:57:00 <Eddi|zuHause> there was, like 5 hours ago 00:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause> man... compiling is slow... 00:58:42 <Eddi|zuHause> some idiot had to go and change source.list... 01:16:53 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cdae.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18:52 *** zodttd [~me@24.144.92.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:48 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:24:45 *** JVassie_ [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:41 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FDAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:40 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:37:24 *** r0b0tb0y [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:40:12 *** Zahl [~Zahl@frbg-d9be37f6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 01:44:16 <Eddi|zuHause> in the end, this was easier than i thought it was... http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=49362 01:45:03 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:14 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@c122-108-245-233.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:49 *** Cornholio [~C@88.251.78.127] has joined #openttd 02:36:39 *** r0b0tb0y is now known as roboboy 02:47:23 *** Cornholio [~C@88.251.78.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:56:00 *** Cornholio [~C@88.251.118.29] has joined #openttd 03:08:59 *** DanMacK [~here@bas8-london14-1176470653.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 03:12:11 <DanMacK> Hello all 03:17:18 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:21:00 *** Celestar [~vici@dslb-188-099-113-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:25:19 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f47f:1162:cdd2:78f9] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:28:05 *** Cornholio [~C@88.251.118.29] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34:02 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:47:29 *** DanMacK [~here@bas8-london14-1176470653.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 03:49:05 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 04:05:55 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.30.192] has joined #openttd 04:06:02 <nicfer> hi 04:08:54 <nicfer> has been introduced in nightlies the custom hotkeys feature? 04:13:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 04:25:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:29:16 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:32:32 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:55:34 *** Celestar [~vici@dslb-188-099-113-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B744B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B749F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:59:50 <roboboy> hello 05:06:06 <roboboy> grr my DOS machine is taking so long to unzip the opentt-useful zip 05:12:36 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.246.175] has joined #openttd 05:28:48 <roboboy> hopefuly I can move all the stuf and compile without all the libs 05:57:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8503.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:12:06 <roboboy> meh its easy to forget how slow computers were ten years ago 06:12:57 <roboboy> my DOS machine taken over an hour to partly decompress the openttd source 06:27:02 <ccfreak2k> You were using DOS 10 years ago? 06:30:00 <Noldo_> it's almost 15 years since Windows 95 06:30:32 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:32:48 <fonsinchen> I started using Windows 98 in 1998 and I only did that because I had to use the latest MS Office and it didn't work with DOS. 06:33:21 <Terkhen> good morning 06:33:41 <Terkhen> nicfer: yes 06:34:43 <fonsinchen> I ditched Windows for Linux at around 2001 because I was so pissed by it ... 06:36:11 <nicfer> from which revision? 06:37:09 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:40:23 <Terkhen> the first hotkeys commit is 20055 06:46:47 *** Noldo_ is now known as Noldo 06:47:09 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:51:08 <nicfer> and is there a GUI to change them? 06:56:12 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:00:24 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:02:20 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.152.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:51 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.152.38] has joined #openttd 07:11:49 <Terkhen> no 07:12:09 <Terkhen> you can only change them by editing the cfg file 07:15:02 * roboboy waits for his DOS machine to finish unziping the OpenTTD source 07:15:59 <Terkhen> oh, I wanted to try that too :) 07:16:35 <roboboy> it's been going for over 2 hours or so 07:16:37 <Terkhen> but my 386 refuses to boot from floppy disks and the existing installation is completely messed up because it suffered my "first experiments" 07:16:44 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:16:49 <roboboy> lawl 07:17:05 <roboboy> this machine came with 98 se on it 07:17:38 <Terkhen> probably it couldn't run OpenTTD anyways, but I wanted to try :/ 07:17:46 <roboboy> that disk got moved to a new machine and then died a couple of years ago after we go XP 07:17:49 <dihedral> hehe - made a phone-call with regards to a job offer, was invited for this afternoon :-P 07:17:59 <dihedral> *couch* seems desperate does it not? :-P 07:18:05 <Terkhen> IIRC it had 40 MHz with "Turbo" on 07:18:08 <dihedral> they did not even see my cv :-P 07:18:33 <Terkhen> hmmm... your fame precedes you? 07:18:37 <Noldo> dihedral: what did they know about you? 07:19:02 <roboboy> it might have run. I seem to be the only person to have succesfuly goten OpenTTD to run on real Hardware 07:19:08 <dihedral> that i do php and only need 14 days to quit my current job (i think) 07:19:28 <dihedral> roboboy: what's 'real' hardware? 07:19:41 <roboboy> not DOSBox 07:19:55 <dihedral> ahh :-) 07:20:22 <dihedral> you get linux to work on those slow boxes too :-P 07:20:27 <Terkhen> if I manage to get DOS working correctly on it I'll look for your advice :) 07:20:43 <dihedral> freedos :-P 07:21:10 <Terkhen> yeah, I wanted to try that too, but it does not boot from any floppy 07:21:38 <roboboy> I have MSDOS. I borrowed and never returned some old DOS 4 disks from my school and a friend lent me his DOS 6.X disks 07:21:40 <dihedral> oh - floppy times - they were good :-) 07:22:06 <dihedral> remember installing tie-fighter with like 9 to 11 floppies :-P 07:22:30 <roboboy> bah to Win3.11 on floppies 18 or so of them 07:22:54 <roboboy> I plan on just dumping them to CD 07:23:09 <Terkhen> heh, I still have 40 floppy disks of windows 95 07:23:36 <roboboy> woot to USBDOS for me 07:25:22 <roboboy> ive pulled bits of freedos off their site and dumped them on my machine 07:25:40 <dihedral> congratulations 07:25:54 <roboboy> its a whole lot more modern 07:27:29 <nicfer> there's no documentation in the wiki about custom hotkeys 07:37:00 <roboboy> where on the wiki is the best place to start writing a draft article that I plan to eventually make public? 07:37:28 <roboboy> I want to start working on an article on compiling for DOS on DOS 07:38:48 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8503.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:52:15 *** Qcco [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:57:20 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:00:50 *** Qcco is now known as Kurimus 08:02:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:14:12 *** valhallasw [~user@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 08:18:43 *** dfox [~dfox@r6l51.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 08:32:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.167.64] has joined #openttd 08:37:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:52:21 *** Qcco [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:52:28 *** Qcco [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 08:55:59 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FC79.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:57:53 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:57 <fjb> Moin. 09:00:02 <peter1138> hmm, pthreads use the same process address space, right? 09:02:10 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.30.192] has left #openttd [] 09:09:03 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:26 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cb0a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:20:07 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-25-5-181.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:31:21 <Narcissus> peter1138: yes 09:43:08 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:49:18 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:52:27 *** Qcco [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:52:34 *** Qcco [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 09:53:05 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-47-145.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 09:57:20 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:18 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 10:05:54 *** George is now known as Guest821 10:08:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10:55 *** Guest648 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:15:11 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D96E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:15:46 *** Sacro is now known as Guest822 10:15:46 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-47-145.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:19:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host41-235-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:21:34 <Wolf01> hello 10:21:52 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-47-145.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 10:22:23 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D96E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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12:58:44 <Wolf01> It should be k901 12:58:49 <Belugas> right... 12:58:57 <Belugas> "ooops" 12:59:13 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:25 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:59:44 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe "0"s are like "h"s to him ;) 13:00:37 <Wolf01> uhm, I'm glat to see that my patch threads already disappeared from the first page of the dev forum, they might sneak away without being noticed, so I don't need to maintain them 13:01:14 * Sacro goes thread bumping 13:01:36 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:50 *** dfox [~dfox@r6l51.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:14:14 *** jpx [jpx_@a91-156-228-224.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 13:19:29 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:22:47 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has joined #openttd 13:24:23 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.12.224] has joined #openttd 13:35:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:13 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-44-204.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:36 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-131-116.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:38:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:40:11 *** cinch [~cinch@85-127-116-248.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:43:44 *** cinch [~cinch@85-127-116-248.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #openttd [Leaving] 13:47:29 *** DanMacK [~here@bas8-london14-1176470653.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 13:56:55 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:56:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:00:32 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:43 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:00:58 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:01:03 *** dail [626c4721@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:01:38 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 14:12:31 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0f566.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: bis dann] 14:12:46 *** Celestar [~vici@89.204.137.97] has joined #openttd 14:12:53 <Celestar> heya 14:13:32 <Celestar> !seen fons 14:13:41 <Celestar> @seen fonsinchen 14:13:41 <DorpsGek> Celestar: fonsinchen was last seen in #openttd 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <fonsinchen> I ditched Windows for Linux at around 2001 because I was so pissed by it ... 14:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause> xargs: xargs.c:445: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. 14:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause> err... wut? 14:15:58 <Celestar> lol 14:16:11 <Celestar> you have more than 131k chars in your xargs ? 14:16:27 <Celestar> find / | xargs won|t work >P 14:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but it sounds like a completely arbitrary number... 14:17:11 * roboboy needs to work out how to link the openttd required libs under DOS 14:17:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and especially, it's an assert, not an error... 14:18:03 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 14:18:08 <__ln__> 131072 is 2^something 14:18:42 <Celestar> the number is ... 14:18:43 <Alberth> 17 14:18:43 <Celestar> what ln said 14:18:46 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc ln(131072)/ln(2) 14:18:46 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Error: 'ln' is not a defined function. 14:18:52 <Celestar> 65536 * 2 14:18:53 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc log(131072)/log(2) 14:18:53 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 17 14:19:02 <Celestar> you can see that 14:19:07 <Celestar> no need to calc :P 14:19:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know "odd" powers of two beyond 2^16 ;) 14:19:51 <Alberth> 131072 is even! 14:19:55 <Celestar> hrhrhr 14:20:01 <Celestar> so why do I mess up cargodist 14:20:08 <Eddi|zuHause> 17 is odd 14:20:13 <Alberth> roboboy: you only link programs, not libraries 14:20:40 <Eddi|zuHause> roboboy: you might want to set up static linking 14:21:36 <roboboy> so I need to compile the libs first 14:21:44 <Celestar> hm. 14:21:52 <Eddi|zuHause> amyway. being a power of two doesn't mean it's not arbitrary 14:22:04 <Celestar> A-B-C is totally crowded while A-C is underutilized. 14:22:07 <roboboy> only ever compiled using vc before 14:22:16 <Celestar> yet most pax from A-B wanna continue to C 14:22:33 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:38 <Alberth> roboboy: usual approach is to compile each source to an object file (.o), then make them into an archive 14:24:07 <Celestar> hm. 14:24:27 <Celestar> when not having non-stops, does cargodist take into account the intermediate stops or do you have to put them manually? 14:25:27 *** valhallasw [~user@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:25:35 <Alberth> there is a large text about why non-stop thingies are bad at the wiki 14:25:44 *** valhallasw [~user@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:25:48 <Alberth> I never really understood it 14:26:22 <dail> i've always found "non-stop" very handy when making long routes 14:26:26 <Alberth> but then I also consider it a CD problem to interpret the orders as I have them :) 14:27:07 <Celestar> yeah 14:29:03 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: no, cargodist does not handle non-non-stop properly 14:29:30 <Celestar> aaha 14:29:34 <Celestar> that|s the problem 14:29:45 <Celestar> *goes fixing* 14:30:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why it plops a big warning message if non-stop isn't the default for orders. 14:30:49 <Celestar> it is 14:31:27 <Eddi|zuHause> if you have a genious idea how to solve it 14:31:53 <Celestar> other than inserting virtual orders, nope 14:32:03 <Celestar> which are not displayed then. 14:32:28 <Eddi|zuHause> well, diaplay is a secondary issue ; 14:32:35 <Eddi|zuHause> ;) 14:32:42 <Celestar> lol 14:33:12 <Celestar> any v dyanamically adds orders when it stops at a station 14:33:13 <Eddi|zuHause> *display 14:33:19 <Celestar> and adds a timer to it 14:33:29 <Celestar> if after a certain time the station is not revisted, drop it 14:33:56 <Eddi|zuHause> time->number of round trips 14:34:28 <Celestar> yeah 14:34:37 <Eddi|zuHause> but, how to handle vehicles without orders? 14:34:42 <Celestar> _ 14:34:43 <Celestar> ? 14:34:50 <Celestar> keep them in the depot? 14:34:58 <Celestar> brb 14:35:25 <Eddi|zuHause> some AIs use vehicles without orders for eye candy, so keeping them in depot would break those 14:35:46 <Eddi|zuHause> plus, what about deleting orders while the vehicle is outside? 14:41:02 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC416F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:41:21 <Eddi|zuHause> man... multi-company games really need overtaking in drive through road stops 14:41:52 <Eddi|zuHause> so often a stupid AI blocks all road traffic in the town by one misplaced station 14:43:32 <Celestar> back 14:43:51 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:43:53 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: when modifiying orders, the virtual orders should be removed. 14:45:22 <Celestar> pfft moonlight is 14 MB 14:52:06 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:44 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:54 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:01:54 <Ammler> I guess, we have networks with trains without orders 15:02:12 <Ammler> those are routed with logic gates 15:04:05 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-25-5-181.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:08 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: that's probably impossible to handle correctly with cargodist 15:07:25 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: because the passengers must know the next station before boarding the train 15:07:36 <Ammler> I just meant, that AIs aren't the only ones using vehicels without orders 15:16:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@77-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 15:17:51 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.44] has joined #openttd 15:22:13 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.12.224] has quit [] 15:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause> # oh hoh ho 15:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause> # ARSCHLOCH! 15:23:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:24:00 <Celestar> _ 15:24:01 <Celestar> ? 15:24:09 <Eddi|zuHause> nothing ;) 15:25:18 <Celestar> bbl 15:25:37 <Celestar> heading home before the Cbs decide to unload 15:27:01 *** Celestar [~vici@89.204.137.97] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:27:22 <peter1138> meh, backporting bits of openttd to C is irritating :) 15:27:29 <peter1138> maybe i should've just used C++, hehhe 15:28:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you could also just program on openttd instead ;) 15:28:18 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:12 <peter1138> LIES 15:30:56 <andythenorth> PIES 15:32:07 <Eddi|zuHause> RICE 15:36:11 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.44] has joined #openttd 15:36:28 <andythenorth> cloudburst! 15:38:25 <SpComb> radionuclides 15:38:30 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 15:39:19 <Eddi|zuHause> radius fracture 15:40:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6777.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:58 <andythenorth> that was loud 15:43:06 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:19 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:43:32 <De_Ghosty> trying to cargo dest a city is impossible 15:43:40 <De_Ghosty> it generate so much pax 15:43:47 <De_Ghosty> nothing can carry em off 15:43:56 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 15:44:02 <Eddi|zuHause> that is true, that's why the passenger reduction patch was introduced 15:44:25 <SpComb> as a hack until someone comes up with a better solution 15:44:33 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause> ideally, vehicles should have a "normal load" and an "overload" capactity, and if it is overloaded, it should reduce station rating or payment, or something 15:48:36 <Rubidium> and an ICE summer mode? 15:48:56 <Rubidium> where you have to pay 1.5 times what you would've earned + 500 euros? 15:49:01 *** ctibor|spi [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> the air conditioning was supposed to work until 32°C 15:49:14 <dihedral> "and the webserver returns php files as html code when I execute wget" <- LOL? 15:49:36 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody could have expected things to get warmer than that! 15:50:09 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: i have not really understood that... 15:50:16 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 15:50:40 <SpComb> ICE AC failed? 15:50:57 <Rubidium> SpComb: no, they just set it for 50°C :) 15:51:00 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: have you no news at your place? :p 15:51:50 <SpComb> no german local news 15:51:57 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 15:53:13 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2010/07/12/air-conditioners-fail-on-german-trains.html?sid=101 15:54:17 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe there's better stories than that... 15:55:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it was a very big story here 15:55:17 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:55:26 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it was not as big as the eurostar in winter story, to be picked up worldwide 15:55:57 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 15:56:36 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:22 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 15:57:28 <Rubidium> http://www.chinapost.com.tw/international/europe/2010/07/12/264241/Dozens-rescued.htm <- or do they run ICEs there as well? 15:57:46 <glx> <dihedral> "and the webserver returns php files as html code when I execute wget" <- LOL? <-- of course, wget request the files like a browser does, so the server do what it should 15:57:47 <Rubidium> although... do ICEs run in the UK? 15:58:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i know that ICE-like trains run in spain and russia 15:58:41 <glx> only eurostar in UK 15:58:48 <glx> (3rd rail) 15:59:02 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:05 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:59:13 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=891287#p891287 15:59:21 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:59:24 <glx> hmm maybe thalys too now 15:59:25 <Eddi|zuHause> eurostar are TGV 15:59:59 <glx> true 16:00:11 <glx> AVE is ICE like IIRC (spain) 16:00:21 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i said that 16:00:49 <Rubidium> but given the temperatures in Spain I'd assume they prepared their ACs for 32 C 16:00:57 <glx> but I named it ;) 16:01:34 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: well, DB was not involved in that, i presume ;) 16:03:57 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 16:04:17 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 16:04:21 <Eddi|zuHause> there was also talk that some should be sold to russia, but i don't know if that was actually done 16:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause> err... 16:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean china 16:05:57 <Rubidium> well... they both have red in their flags :) 16:06:26 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:23 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:07:33 <Eddi|zuHause> pretty much all slavic countries have red/blue/white [in some order] flags 16:09:16 <frosch123> planetmaker: can you please remove some "," and "-" from your last post at fs#3947, and add "." and "\n" instead :) 16:09:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 16:10:44 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-131-116.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:12:03 <dihedral> @fs3947 16:12:09 <dihedral> :-( 16:12:38 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-228-161.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:12:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:13:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 16:15:56 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 16:18:41 *** Celestar [~dax@89.204.137.1] has joined #openttd 16:19:03 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 16:19:40 *** Celestar [~dax@89.204.137.1] has quit [] 16:20:00 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:53 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@119.11.12.224] has joined #openttd 16:23:11 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:56 <dail> I just made my first patch. Where do i submit it. When building a road or train depot it correctly gives the "Flat land required" or "Land sloped in wrong direction" errors. 16:32:00 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:04 <Eoin> is that not already a feature? 16:32:53 <dail> It was on the todo list. It did not report the "Land sloped in wrong direction" error, now it does 16:33:03 <Rubidium> but depots don't require flat land (if building on slopes is enabled) 16:33:29 <dail> But if it is a steep slope the the "Flat land required" error is needed 16:33:50 <Alberth> except sloped land also works 16:34:02 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.30.192] has joined #openttd 16:34:12 <Rubidium> even then "Flat land required" is incorrect 16:34:16 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:34 <dail> Well, i was just going by what the todo said... 16:34:35 <Rubidium> the land is still sloped incorrectly for what you are about to build 16:34:47 <Rubidium> there's a todo list? 16:35:00 <Alberth> make release 2.0 :) 16:35:17 <dail> So it should always report a "land sloped in wrong direction" error??? Yes it is docs. Go to docs.openttd.org and its at the top left 16:35:49 <dail> ITs not really a todo list, it is just anywere in the code there is a @todo param 16:35:58 *** pugi_ [~pugi@p4FCC416F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:16 <nicfer> how do I configure custom keys? (in recent trunk releases) 16:36:25 <nicfer> wiki seems outdated 16:36:39 <Alberth> dail: those @todo's have there been ages, they may have beome obsolete 16:37:18 <Alberth> nicfer: so fix the wiki. I don't know exactly, but you should have a hotkeys.cfg file for them 16:37:27 <dail> ok...so its fine as is then, always reporting a "Flat Land Required" error? 16:38:12 <Alberth> nicfer: or rather, make a new section, since many users still use the current stable 16:38:20 <Rubidium> I think it's a bit more complex 16:38:37 <Rubidium> if building on slopes is disabled: flat land required is needed 16:38:47 <Rubidium> if steep slope: some new error message? 16:39:05 <Rubidium> if incorrectly sloped: land slopes in wrong direction 16:39:13 <SpComb> site unsuitable? 16:39:25 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC416F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:25 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 16:39:34 *** APTX_ [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 16:40:07 <Alberth> SpComb isn't that a bit too general? 16:41:03 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:26 <Rubidium> although... at other places where steepslope is used it's using land sloped in wrong direction as well 16:41:27 <dail> Rubidium: that makes sense i guess 16:42:23 *** pugi_ [~pugi@p4FCC416F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:59 <dihedral> Rubidium is usually one to be had for sense ^^ 16:44:51 <Rubidium> station code needs checking as well and maybe it's possible to unify some of the code 16:45:31 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089076052083.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:09 <Rubidium> as they basically have the same rules 16:46:34 <Rubidium> besides being slightly different for "drive through" 16:46:59 <Rubidium> although... adding support for that in the unified function might be something some people will like a lot 16:47:30 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC416F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:30 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 16:51:21 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20203 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: some file "headers" were incorrect, including doxygen @file so they wouldn't be picked up by doxygen. 16:53:09 <dail> So is there anywhere where there is an up to date todo list? 16:54:05 <Rubidium> the todo about the depot building functions is still valid 16:54:31 <dail> so should i change it according to your previous explanation then? 16:54:32 <Rubidium> though the todo is incomplete and it is/was not clear from the message alone what was meant 16:54:48 <dail> true... 16:54:49 *** lolman_ [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:54:54 <Rubidium> dail: yes, and unify it with road/rail station building 16:56:00 <dail> what error for the steep slope? and where should i unify it at? i mean i see that the road and rail depot station have that section of code in common 16:56:19 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... by the speed that bug reports come in currently, i can supply a "well tested" patch by tomorrow ;) 16:56:30 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:57:35 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: most chinese are sleeping now 16:58:17 <frosch123> i guess quite a share of humans is just sleeping, and did not notice there is something to test :p 16:58:18 <Rubidium> dail: go for the "land sloped in wrong direction"; it's the most right without causing the need to review all LAND_SLOPED_IN_WRONG_DIRECTION (yet) 16:58:56 *** lolman [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:59:16 <Rubidium> dail: parts of the CheckBuildableTile code is fairly similar to the code used by rail and road depots 16:59:50 <dail> Rubidium: ok. thanks. Sorry for the questions but ive literally spent 30 minutes in the code total 17:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause> dail: ask as many questions as you need... :) 17:03:18 <dail> Thanks. Its great to feel welcome! I hope to be able to contribute alot to the code eventually once i get into it more 17:05:11 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and to your original question: if you want to get immediate feedback for an un-finalized patch, you can talk about it here. if you want user-feedback, post it on tt-forums, and if you want developer feedback (for finalized patches), post them on bugs.openttd.org 17:05:40 <dail> Ok! Thanks! 17:10:06 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 17:17:41 *** Tennel [~Tennel@port-ip-213-211-212-60.reverse.mdcc-fun.de] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 17:19:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:24:07 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 17:26:24 <dail> rail_cmd, road_cmd, and station_cmd has code in common for checking tiles. How does a CheckCanBuildDepot() function in station_cmd.cpp sound? Is station_cmd an appropriate place to put it? 17:26:38 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:27:48 <Alberth> src/depot_cmd??? 17:28:45 <dail> Alberth: is that a better spot? 17:29:04 <Alberth> for CheckCanBuildDepot(), I think so 17:29:20 <Alberth> but perhaps you want to have a seperate function for common code? 17:30:43 *** pugi_ [~pugi@p4FCC554E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:45 <dail> the function will check land slopes, and if there is a bridge above it... 17:31:24 <Alberth> I think the currently important problem is to get a working prototype, moving code to a better place is relatively easy 17:31:46 <Alberth> ie you could also consider some tile-ish file for the common code. 17:34:45 <Alberth> there are also slope files 17:36:26 <dail> ill stick it in the src/depot_cmd.cpp for now. ill see where else the code is used and see if it needs moved... 17:36:26 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC416F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:26 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 17:37:37 <dail> and for clarity, whats the difference in a "station" and "depot" code-wise that is 17:38:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:47 <Alberth> station has cargo acceptance/delivery, platforms, length depot is a black hole, has infinite storage for trains, allows selling/buying engines and wagons 17:40:01 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you should check docs/landscape.html and docs/landscape_grid.html to get an overview about how the tiles are organised 17:40:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the code is structured similarly 17:41:20 <dail> ok thanks 17:41:52 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 17:43:10 <nicfer> isn't there a shortcut for the 'query' tool? 17:44:33 <Ammler> g 17:44:45 <Ammler> hmm, might be a patch 17:45:19 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r20204 /trunk/src/lang/czech.txt: 17:45:19 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:19 <CIA-9> OpenTTD: czech - 1 changes by ReisRyos 17:45:23 <nicfer> I mean, the 'info about terrain 17:46:30 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, we understood that 17:46:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never checked if it does. 17:49:36 <Eddi|zuHause> there should be keys for every main toolbar buttons... something like F1..F12 and Shift+F1..F12 17:49:55 <Eddi|zuHause> or Ctrl+F1..F12... not sure 17:50:21 <Ammler> and if there are, those might be cusomizeable with hotkeys.cfg 17:53:07 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 17:55:14 <frosch123> there are no hotkeys for the stuff in the info menu, except screenshots 17:57:14 <Ammler> it is possible to setup keyfunctions without assign a key per default? 17:57:44 <frosch123> yes, was just done yesterday 17:58:01 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 18:00:25 <nicfer> GUI question: could be removed the 'demolish' button from the road/rail/airport/dock building tools? 18:00:48 <nicfer> toggleable or not 18:01:05 <frosch123> you can remove the hotkey for them 18:02:56 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 18:02:59 <nicfer> that's what I did :) 18:06:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6777.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:27 *** Xaroth_ [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:44 <Alberth> you never destroy anything? 18:17:42 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc3-pres13-2-0-cust333.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:25:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:33 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-228-161.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29:10 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 18:29:47 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-127-204.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:29:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:32:27 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:32:37 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 18:33:28 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.30.192] has left #openttd [] 18:38:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:49 *** dail [626c4721@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:43:38 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-25-5-181.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:21 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:50:26 *** dfox [~dfox@r6l51.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:54:02 <andythenorth> :D 18:54:03 <andythenorth> http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/2010/07/etfs-monster-mining-roadtrain.html 18:54:11 <andythenorth> apparently ETF is still going 18:54:16 <andythenorth> (was suggested for HEQS) 18:55:14 *** keikoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:55:17 <keikoz> hi 18:55:46 <Alberth> hi 18:57:46 <Alberth> andythenorth: nice green colour :) 18:58:31 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8503.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:41 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-25-5-181.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:02 *** rasco [rasco@tietos.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:13 <rasco> hey, i found a bug in cost estimation of landscaping 19:21:48 <rasco> when landscaping more than one tile, the cost estimate is higher than the actual price 19:21:54 <Rubidium> yep 19:21:59 <rasco> known? 19:22:06 <Rubidium> it's almost impossible to make the correct estimate 19:22:20 <rasco> okay i think i understand 19:22:32 <Rubidium> primarily because of (possible) removal of structures using multiple tiles might be counted double 19:23:05 <Rubidium> but the same holds for clearing tiles (I think) 19:23:27 <Rubidium> anyhow, that's why it's called an estimate 19:23:34 <Rubidium> it's an estimate... not the actual amount 19:23:43 <Rubidium> it should always overestimate though 19:23:44 <rasco> clearing estimate seems to be exact 19:25:23 <Rubidium> build a 2 tile bridge (so only the bridge ramps) 19:25:39 <Rubidium> check the estimate for clearing both tiles (i.e. try to clear 2 tiles) 19:25:46 <Rubidium> then check the actual cost 19:26:41 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 19:26:47 *** Frk [~Frk@itt67-1-88-182-60-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:52 <Frk> hi 19:27:16 <Frk> somebody can help me for 32bbp graphic ? 19:27:32 <Frk> i search a pack for graph ... 19:28:34 <Rubidium> not sure whether there are much 32bpp graphics people in here 19:28:40 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba8503.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28:57 <Rubidium> and I'm assuming you want information related to the "big" 32bpp graphics 19:30:05 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 19:31:26 <Frk> i have find a pack = here => http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=46682 19:31:47 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [] 19:34:34 <Rubidium> so the "big" 32bpp graphics; I don't have any experience with those 19:35:08 <Rubidium> you are aware that that project isn't something done by the "official" OpenTTD developers, but by some other people that are interested in those graphics? 19:37:31 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 19:37:49 <Frk> yes ... it s only for test 19:37:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 19:38:16 <Ammler> you might better ask there 19:40:05 <Frk> better pic ... no better game ... 19:45:44 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:45:57 * Terkhen hopes that mingw-get becomes usable soon 19:51:34 * andythenorth resurfaces from the patterns wiki :o 19:53:41 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.11.13.227] has quit [Quit: Nice Scotty, now beam my clothes up too!] 19:58:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.167.64] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:45 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 20:01:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.167.64] has joined #openttd 20:06:18 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.19.125.231] has joined #openttd 20:06:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-1-190.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:17:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:14 *** JVassie_ [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:26:07 *** Frk [~Frk@itt67-1-88-182-60-130.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Byebye] 20:26:53 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:28:05 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:28:32 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest877 20:28:33 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 20:29:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6777.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:21 *** Guest877 [~chatzilla@client-86-25-5-181.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:41 <Terkhen> good night 20:41:31 <andythenorth> bye Terkhen 20:54:19 *** tdev [~udev@p508EFC58.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:10 * andythenorth ponders 21:05:31 * andythenorth ponders bedtime 21:09:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6777.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:10 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:11:41 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:12:00 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:28:19 <rasco> i'd love a feature to share tracks and stations with other companies 21:32:24 <PeterT> rasco: it's called "IS2" 21:32:35 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42254 21:33:45 <rasco> oh, a fork? 21:35:30 <rasco> taking a look at it right now 21:36:10 <Ammler> I would call it "patch" :-) 21:37:40 <Ammler> would a fork still pull from origin? 21:40:42 <rasco> dunno. will it be merged some day? 21:40:53 <PeterT> maybe when it's fixed up :) 21:46:26 <Ammler> rasco: that is something else, but it is still kinda up2date with trunk 21:47:00 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:59 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 21:51:21 <rasco> oh and i hope for cargodist to be merged too <3 21:52:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56:44 *** Eoin is now known as Eoin_Acorn 21:57:14 *** welshdragon is now known as Welsh_Acorn 21:57:25 *** PeterT is now known as PeterT_Acorn 22:00:33 *** Welsh_Acorn is now known as Welshdragon 22:00:37 *** PeterT_Acorn is now known as PeterT 22:02:19 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 22:02:52 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@pool-98-119-100-103.lsanca.btas.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:03 *** Welshdragon is now known as welshdragon 22:05:13 *** jonty-comp is now known as Jonty-comp 22:06:03 *** Jonty-comp is now known as jonty-comp 22:11:56 *** PeterT is now known as Zernebot 22:12:05 *** Eoin_Acorn is now known as PeterT 22:12:36 *** PeterT is now known as Guest886 22:12:36 *** Zernebot is now known as PeterT 22:12:45 *** Guest886 is now known as Eoin 22:14:16 *** valhallasw [~user@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 22:34:08 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:54:55 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D96E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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