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00:02:37 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.0.27.232] has joined #openttd 00:14:51 <MYOB> right, I give up for the evening 00:15:13 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe try allegro instead ;) 00:15:16 <MYOB> when the boyfriend start slagging me for spending too much time on something, its a baaad sign 00:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause> at least, it doesn't do resizing :p 00:15:28 <MYOB> Eddi|zuHause I was trying allegro, nearly built 00:15:45 <Eddi|zuHause> "nearly built" is a cool euphemism :p 00:16:01 <MYOB> Eddi|zuHause I ctrl-c'ed a compile 00:16:46 <MYOB> I suspect it'd have worked eventually :P 00:17:16 <Eddi|zuHause> what an interesting way to test something... 00:17:59 <MYOB> I'm not sitting in front of a terminal session all night 00:18:08 <MYOB> or leaving a PC with a jet engine of a fan on either 00:19:21 <Eddi|zuHause> get a quieter pc 00:19:49 <MYOB> at 1am? I do have a Tesco Extra here but even it balks at selling components... 00:22:01 <MYOB> although it now has "tech fixers" in it so maybe.... 00:28:08 *** Sacro [~Sacro@87.102.19.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:25 *** MYOB [~cian@83-71-9-78-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has quit [] 00:32:30 *** Sacro [~Sacro@87.102.19.96] has joined #openttd 00:37:33 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:45:35 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:54:55 *** Markk [~markk@213.229.75.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:54:58 *** Markk [~markk@213.229.75.82] has joined #openttd 01:00:00 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has joined #openttd 01:00:40 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:53 <TruePikachu> Xrufuian: Kernel panic got caused by something 01:01:00 <TruePikachu> IDK what, though 01:01:30 <Xrufuian> Kernel panic = BSoD? 01:01:33 <TruePikachu> IDK if the savegame sync'd though 01:01:38 <TruePikachu> Approximatly 01:02:31 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf do you do to your system? i have never ever seen a kernel panic 01:02:39 *** tdev [~udev@p508EDE26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 01:02:41 <TruePikachu> IDK what happened. 01:03:03 <TruePikachu> It might have been a crash from my network manager 01:03:03 <Xrufuian> Maybe that neighbor of yours? 01:03:08 <TruePikachu> No 01:03:17 <TruePikachu> They can't crash this 01:03:36 <Xrufuian> I don't know... 01:03:58 <TruePikachu> The thing is, whatever crashed crashed so badly I got panic 01:04:51 <TruePikachu> I had to do some heavy modifications to a network manager source code @ recompile it in order to ensure that it ONLY connects to my WAP 01:05:03 <TruePikachu> It may have been a bug in the modification 01:05:14 <TruePikachu> Which somehow went to the kernel 01:05:24 * TruePikachu is restarting KDE 01:05:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:42 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 01:05:57 <Xrufuian> I think I'll work on my NewGRF in the meantime. 01:06:14 * TruePikachu is re-opening OpenTTD's Network connection 01:06:21 <TruePikachu> (the iptables) 01:06:46 * TruePikachu is NOT running the network manager 01:06:47 *** kyo [~kyo@92.11.4.221] has joined #openttd 01:06:58 * TruePikachu is restarting OpenTTD 01:07:27 <TruePikachu> Yeah, the savegame didn't fully sync to the HD, so it's corrupted 01:07:43 <TruePikachu> It was very good, though 01:08:03 <Xrufuian> I saved the game. 01:08:27 <TruePikachu> That was funny, how I blocked that one depot 01:08:48 <TruePikachu> (joke) Maybe that one AI got angry at me (/joke) 01:11:21 <TruePikachu> Xrufuian: I gtg, type up your stragety for NARS vehical setup and e-mail it to me 01:11:37 <TruePikachu> (what I mean is for consist building or w/e 01:11:38 <TruePikachu> ) 01:12:01 <Xrufuian> Ok. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 06:48:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:53:49 *** kyo [~kyo@92.11.4.221] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 07:09:30 <planetmaker> devilsadvocate: I don't guess that FIRS is designed to work with that. Consider it a bug of cargodist, not of firs 07:10:04 <planetmaker> it's impossible for newgrf authors to also cater for game-changing patches of all kinds 07:10:19 <devilsadvocate> i'm not saying its a bug. just noting that the two of them may have some issues if used together 07:10:20 <planetmaker> patches rather have to make sure they don't break those 07:10:52 <devilsadvocate> (since i did briefly discuss it with him a couple of weeks ago) 07:12:51 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0a75.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 07:17:44 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r11kx196.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 07:18:48 <Terkhen> good morning 07:19:03 <SmatZ> hello Terkhen 07:29:28 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-54-41.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has joined #openttd 07:29:48 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has joined #openttd 07:31:45 *** bartavelle [~bartavell@bigbox.banquise.net] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 07:31:48 *** bartavelle [~bartavell@bigbox.banquise.net] has joined #openttd 07:33:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:33:32 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 07:37:56 *** Amis_ [~Amis@sexard2-115.tolna.net] has joined #openttd 07:42:18 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:44:31 *** Amis [~Amis@sexard2-115.tolna.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:45:37 *** Aali [~aali@h-90-31.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:46:46 *** bartavelle [~bartavell@bigbox.banquise.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:48:28 *** bartavelle [~bartavell@bigbox.banquise.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:46 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:07:35 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:08:23 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:29:51 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:57:30 <peter1138> so i guess i still need a hashtable 08:58:31 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-54-41.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:51 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0a75.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:21 *** murr4y [~murray@169.84-49-70.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:15:28 *** murr4y [~murray@169.84-49-70.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 09:18:48 <fjb> Moin. 09:43:05 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:14 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:48 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:04 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:46:39 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:46:40 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.0.27.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:46:53 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:47:17 *** Dreamxtreme [Archimedes@92.19.25.67] has joined #openttd 09:47:57 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:20 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:08 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:55:36 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:19 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:55 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:16 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:41 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:48 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:12 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:01:07 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 10:01:47 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:02:26 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [] 10:03:12 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 10:12:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:12:50 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:13:10 <Wolf01> hoy 10:13:51 <__ln__> english only 10:14:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 10:15:26 <Wolf01> I no habla Japanese 10:15:39 <Markk> :D 10:16:40 <__ln__> yo tampoco 10:17:01 <Wolf01> Should be possible to run OTTD with nVidia CUDA? 10:17:28 <__ln__> What part of it? 10:17:34 <Wolf01> all 10:17:47 <Wolf01> I just changed my video card 10:18:09 <Wolf01> I can run Borderlands at full detail at 1920x1080 at 33422353FPS 10:18:25 <Wolf01> It's spectacular 10:19:30 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-87-13.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:25 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-224-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:21:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:22:26 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:22:42 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:58 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@c122-108-245-233.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:26:14 *** sparr [sparr@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:38 <Pikka> Yexo: about what we were talking about the other day (lack of cb10 on changing railtypes causing possible desyncs): are you on it or should I add it to flyspray so it doesn't get forgotten? 10:27:01 <Yexo> I've confirmed the problem but I'm not working on it 10:27:18 <Pikka> okay, I'll stick it up then, thanks :) 10:27:43 <Yexo> I'm not 100% sure, but I think the same problem can happen for other callbacks that are only called inthe depot and not when switching railtypes (maybe cb 36?) 10:28:03 <Pikka> cb36 seems to be called when switching railtypes just fine 10:28:12 <Yexo> some parts of it, yes 10:28:16 <Yexo> but for all properties? 10:29:01 <Pikka> TE, horsepower, running cost... seem to be the only sensible ones to change. 10:30:12 <Pikka> and speed, which I haven't tried changing yet 10:30:47 <Pikka> I'm sure one could cause desyncs by arbitrarily changing cargo capacity... but that would be a silly thing to do so it doesn't need fixing :) 10:32:06 <Pikka> perhaps someone who can read the source code should clarify on the wiki exactly which properties are cb36ed when... 10:32:43 <Pikka> at the moment it just says "most" and "others", very vague 10:38:38 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Quit: fmauneko] 10:43:29 <peter1138> gruargh, fucking stupid aol users 10:48:47 <planetmaker> <Pikka> I'm sure one could cause desyncs by arbitrarily changing cargo capacity... but that would be a silly thing to do so it doesn't need fixing :) <-- any error possible will be made at some stage :-) 10:48:47 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:22 <Pikka> of course, but it would be an error, planetmaker , and not a desirable thing to do :) 10:49:34 <Rubidium> I think wagon capacity is stored in the wagon and I reckon it's only updated in the depot 10:49:35 <planetmaker> hu? 10:49:45 <planetmaker> ^ @ Pikka 10:50:26 <Pikka> Rubidium: or when loading the game? 10:51:43 <Rubidium> it's updated whenever the consist changes 10:51:54 <Rubidium> but... ofcourse... the consist changes when loading a savegame 10:52:14 <__ln__> Wolf01: I don't think OpenTTD is parallel enough to benefit from CUDA. 10:52:29 <FauxFaux> s/enough/at all/ 10:55:00 <Pikka> there, flyspray'd 10:57:28 <Pikka> ... and I failed to change the category to newgrf 11:08:39 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:58e1:49ae:80d9:713f] has joined #openttd 11:25:58 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0a75.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:35:33 <peter1138> meh 11:36:27 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D94EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:14 <andythenorth> exactly 11:40:35 * andythenorth wonders 'roadtypes'? 11:41:06 <andythenorth> (for planning of which newgrf to work on next reasons) 11:44:46 <roboboy> Pikka, did you ever make hovs 2cc? 11:44:54 <Pikka> nope 11:44:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:45:10 * Pikka wanders roadtypes 11:45:14 <roboboy> ok 11:45:42 * Rubidium ponders procrastination... but... must not do that 11:46:27 *** snc [rdlBNC@178.32.93.49] has joined #openttd 11:48:16 <Pikka> do it later, Rubidium 11:48:22 *** welshdragon [rdlBNC@178.32.93.53] has joined #openttd 11:48:43 <Pikka> andy: ships please 11:48:45 *** tdev [~udev@p508EA493.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:22 <Rubidium> yes... the largest ship is buggery (glitchery) 11:49:29 <Rubidium> the log thingy is fancy though :) 11:49:32 <Pikka> needs more sailing, various and appropriate introduction dates and other sundry statistics :) 11:50:33 <Rubidium> and moar fish'n'ships 11:52:28 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 11:53:15 *** Sacro [~Sacro@87.102.19.96] has joined #openttd 11:58:19 <andythenorth> ok ships 11:58:26 <andythenorth> I have to do this boring ticket :P 11:58:26 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1134 11:58:52 <andythenorth> FISH is full of bounding boxes problems ranging minor to major :( 11:59:04 <andythenorth> due to: "the sprites are too damn big" 11:59:22 <planetmaker> andythenorth, did you consider to provide scaled versions of the ships in the purchase menu? 11:59:34 <andythenorth> yes, and it would look awful, so no :) 12:00:09 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1150 <-- you'll have that problem, too 12:00:16 <planetmaker> which DOES look aweful 12:00:16 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2094:8636:a766:c070] has joined #openttd 12:00:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:00:38 <planetmaker> unconditionally ;-) 12:01:04 <andythenorth> planetmaker: looks like a bug in openttd to me 12:01:10 <planetmaker> nope 12:01:14 <planetmaker> not quite 12:01:28 <planetmaker> depends upon the perspective 12:01:45 <planetmaker> if you add space to your strings (setx or spaces), then a user-generated string may well be without 12:01:55 <andythenorth> I've just reproduced it for FISH 12:02:00 <Rubidium> just be done with that by a comment (people shouldn't change the names anyways) 12:02:27 <andythenorth> How is it useful / interesting to change the vehicles names? 12:02:39 <planetmaker> Dunno. I only did it ages ago 12:02:46 <andythenorth> remove the button and see if anyone complains? 12:03:05 <planetmaker> they will 12:04:27 <andythenorth> I'll wait for an actual bug report before I truncate the FISH sprites 12:07:51 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 12:09:07 <Ammler> renaming was a pre-newgrf feature, iirc 12:09:20 <Ammler> doesn't TTD already support that? 12:09:54 <Ammler> maybe openttd could disable that feature for newgrfs? 12:11:18 <planetmaker> iirc it was already in TTD, yes 12:11:23 <planetmaker> but I might be wrong :-) 12:16:10 <glx> it's a pre-action 0 feature 12:17:40 <Ammler> the guy which reported the bug did accidentially click on it, so you really should think about, if it is really worth the effort to change all sprites or whatever... 12:17:42 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 12:18:16 <Ammler> I guite much like the flags on the 2cc set 12:18:21 <Ammler> quite* 12:25:25 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-228-224.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 12:27:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what the hell is a "ten-four"? 12:27:56 <planetmaker> fourteen? 12:27:57 <Rubidium> something US-police-ish 12:29:58 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: http://www.spychannels.com/blog/2010/01/all-the-police-radio-codes-10/ 12:32:29 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:37:09 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, that makes sense 12:39:02 <Pikka> goodnight wallyweb 12:39:05 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@c122-108-245-233.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 12:41:03 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 12:45:18 <Belugas> hello 12:47:26 <peter1138> largest ship is "buggery"? what? 12:47:29 <Wolf01> hello 13:02:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20221 /trunk/src/ (music_gui.cpp town_gui.cpp window.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Move unscrolled row calculation into a function. 13:03:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20222 /trunk/src/ (window.cpp window_gui.h): -Add: Add functions to compute the row in a scrolled widget. 13:07:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C340.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:00 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20223 /trunk/src/ (19 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Replace scrolled row calculations by a call to GetScrolledRowFromWidget(). 13:09:30 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc0a75.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:55 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@ip-172-139-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:47 <__ln__> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=One+Cubic+parsec+of+Coca+Cola 13:22:27 <Eddi|zuHause> mass, volume and density don't really match 13:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 3.1/2.9 13:22:45 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1.06896551724 13:23:40 <Eddi|zuHause> accuracy is kinda low 13:25:41 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-172-139-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:29:11 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:03 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has joined #openttd 13:41:26 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 13:43:15 *** tycoondemon [~thok@cc64025-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:25 <Rubidium> hmm... a diesel train driving into a truck for carrying diesel doesn't quite make an explosion like happens in OpenTTD... http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/foto/98a844a1_20100726Stavoren_Treinongeval_26.jpg 13:58:11 <planetmaker> :-) 13:58:23 <planetmaker> Diesel is a non-explosive liquid under usual circumstances 13:58:29 *** snc [rdlBNC@178.32.93.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58:29 *** welshdragon [rdlBNC@178.32.93.53] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58:58 <Rubidium> especially when the diesel truck is empty :) 13:59:04 <planetmaker> but surely the train looks mis-placed somewhat :-P 13:59:14 <planetmaker> Rubidium, actually: especially then NOT 13:59:27 <planetmaker> explosive is the air-diesel gas mixture 13:59:31 <planetmaker> but not the liquid 14:00:46 <Rubidium> planetmaker: but empty truck -> less inertia -> less likely to rupture the tank 14:01:14 <planetmaker> the inertia is anyway provided >90% by the train in all cases 14:01:42 <Rubidium> and... a train doesn't have that much momentum anymore after plowing through a buffer and a building 14:02:01 <planetmaker> :-) I already wondered how the truck got there... 14:02:38 <Rubidium> though it's stupid that trains can't run to the station there... it's not electrified, so that can't be broken and the train did get completely of the tracks 14:02:49 <Rubidium> or is a buffer that important 14:03:16 <Rubidium> it would've be a lot more fun when the building and buffer weren't there :) 14:03:39 <Alberth> the idea of a buffer is that this does not happen, isn't it? 14:03:55 <planetmaker> sound very much like :-) 14:04:09 <Rubidium> the idea of a buffer is to "help" when the train goes slightly too fast 14:04:31 <Rubidium> it doesn't help when you forget to brake 14:04:53 <planetmaker> :-) 14:05:02 <planetmaker> the train obviously was MUCH too fast, yes 14:05:32 <peter1138> so, er, where's the track? 14:06:23 <Rubidium> peter1138: Stavoren 14:06:40 <glx> seems there's track on the left 14:12:10 *** Amis_ [~Amis@sexard2-115.tolna.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:18 *** snc [rdlBNC@178.32.93.49] has joined #openttd 14:15:49 *** welshdragon [rdlBNC@178.32.93.53] has joined #openttd 14:18:56 <andythenorth> Rubidium: was that a rail grinding train? 14:25:03 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3F55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:25:23 <Alberth> possibly, it was said to be a maintenance train 14:26:20 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? 14:27:08 *** jpx_ [~jpx_@a91-156-229-142.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: but the wagon positions are fairly similar after the crash :p 14:30:16 * roboboy might give in to compiling OpenTTD under DOS 14:36:49 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38:29 *** jpx [jpx_@a91-156-228-224.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:42:30 *** jpx_ [~jpx_@a91-156-229-142.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:19 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has joined #openttd 14:52:59 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 14:53:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.200.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:39 <Mazur> From what I can gtell from googleearth, the eol buffer might have been just left of the framce of the picture. Train said to have been going slower than 40 km/h or else Automatic Brakes would have been applied. 14:59:40 *** Amis_ [~Amis@dsl51B65566.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 15:01:08 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.242.213] has joined #openttd 15:04:15 *** tdev [~udev@p508EA493.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 15:08:08 <Rubidium> Mazur: that's assuming the train had ATB 15:08:09 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:08:16 <Rubidium> after all, it's an Italian train 15:08:25 <Rubidium> andythenorth: yup 15:08:49 <Mazur> Rubidium, it's what they said on the NOS news. 15:08:52 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-123-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:42 <Rubidium> Mazur: they say so much on television, like that the firefighters couldn't find any traces of CO2 in the air near a burning building 15:10:17 <Mazur> But am I seeing correct that that are only locs? That would have been a shitload intertia. 15:10:26 <glx> that was a nice combustion ;) 15:10:42 <Rubidium> nah, it's just specialised wagons for grinding the rails 15:11:16 <Mazur> Rubidium: But still mostly machinery, ergo mass, I expect. 15:11:34 <glx> yeah it looks heavy 15:11:51 <glx> but that's expected 15:11:56 <Rubidium> Mazur: http://nos.nl/artikel/174296-trein-ramt-winkel-bij-station-stavoren.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nosjournaal+%28NOS+Journaal+Nieuws%29 the audio about "Prorail over ongeluk Stavoren", around 03:00... they say that from 09:00 in the morning trains will be running again 15:12:20 <Rubidium> at this moment... prorail.nl says it's still going to take at least the rest of this day 15:12:36 <Rubidium> ofcourse, that's only a factor 3-ish in hours 15:13:06 <Rubidium> but apply that factor to the train's speed... 15:18:11 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:18:23 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-123-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:19:14 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause> 120km/h doesn't look like a usual speed for such a train 15:21:17 <Rubidium> I doubt it was working at the time, as that's likely done at pretty low speeds 15:21:46 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that's to be expected. but i can't imagine it going more than like 80 15:22:26 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:44 <Eddi|zuHause> typical shunting engines don't have more than 60km/h max speed on "open" track 15:26:04 <Rubidium> finally found the "specs" of a rail grinding train (in US measurements though) 15:26:23 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:38 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D94EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 15:26:45 <Rubidium> it says almost 200 meters, travel speed 80 km/h, 1090 tons 15:30:21 <Rubidium> Mazur: the 40 km/h you've mentioned is only valid for the old ATB, which isn't used on the track to Stavoren (it uses ATB-NG, like most non-electrified track in the NL) 15:35:30 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D94EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:43 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:54:49 *** MindlessTux [~bdavenpor@mail.companioncabinet.com] has joined #openttd 16:09:38 <planetmaker> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Wenn-Hacker-Hacker-hacken-1045511.html <-- hehe. A phishing toolkit with backdoor ;-) 16:10:06 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 16:10:12 <[hta]specx> hi all 16:10:32 <[hta]specx> I found a bug, but Im not sure if its intentional behaviour or not 16:10:55 <planetmaker> an intentional behaviour is not a bug 16:10:59 <[hta]specx> a truck at temperate bank can load & unload at same station 16:11:18 <[hta]specx> in other words, a temperate bank accepts his own valuables 16:11:48 <planetmaker> You can unload it again. But it isn't accepted? 16:11:54 <planetmaker> If the goods vanish: then it's a bug 16:11:59 <[hta]specx> yes, bank accepts his own gold. 16:12:07 <planetmaker> do you get paid? 16:12:14 <[hta]specx> not sure 16:13:27 <andythenorth> if it's the same station, distance is 0 16:13:34 <andythenorth> so payment won't be great :P 16:13:50 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:19 <planetmaker> [hta]specx: any newgrfs involved? 16:14:28 <planetmaker> and got a savegame? 16:14:36 <[hta]specx> no newgrfs 16:14:43 <[hta]specx> zero payment 16:14:54 <[hta]specx> just old fashioned temperate bank 16:16:00 <[hta]specx> no payment at same station, neither payment when using two stations 16:16:02 <planetmaker> temperate banks accept valuables, not gold. Translation error? :-) 16:16:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@77-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:16:11 <[hta]specx> i mean valuables 16:16:14 <[hta]specx> no gold 16:16:18 <[hta]specx> so no payment 16:16:18 <planetmaker> ok, just checking :-) 16:16:58 *** asnoehu [~thok@cc64025-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:17:01 <[hta]specx> IMHO its a bug then 16:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i think distance must be >10 tiles for payment 16:17:11 <[hta]specx> payment or not 16:17:17 <[hta]specx> Eddi: nope 16:17:32 <Eddi|zuHause> cargo won't be accepted at the same station, but it will at another station at the same industry 16:17:46 <Eddi|zuHause> that's not a bug, it's the design 16:17:55 <[hta]specx> since if you have a factpry in same town you want to deliver goods, two docks opposite of each other with one tile water makes ships make a profit 16:18:18 <planetmaker> with the same station I cannot follow your description. Just testing atm 16:18:21 <[hta]specx> Eddi: no, valuables is still accepted at same station truck loads 16:18:41 <planetmaker> the vehicle doesn't unload here 16:18:46 <[hta]specx> 1. load valuables at station x 2. unload and leave empty at station x 16:18:47 <Eddi|zuHause> [hta]specx: savegame? 16:19:09 <Eddi|zuHause> [hta]specx: that should make the cargo be piled up 16:19:18 <[hta]specx> it doesnt 16:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> not delivered to the industry 16:19:49 <Eddi|zuHause> that might be a bug 16:19:58 <[hta]specx> ah 16:20:00 <[hta]specx> wait 16:20:05 <[hta]specx> when station is the same 16:20:11 <[hta]specx> it indeed piles up the stuff 16:20:29 <[hta]specx> but when a secondary station is involved, the secondary station make the bank accept his own valuables 16:20:41 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 16:20:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what i said 16:20:49 <[hta]specx> yes, sry. 16:21:05 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has joined #openttd 16:21:20 <planetmaker> two different station: that's fine indeed 16:21:24 <[hta]specx> but your first statement: "i think distance must be >10 tiles for payment" seems not be true 16:21:51 <planetmaker> well... that statement might be found *somewhere* :-) 16:21:59 <[hta]specx> so the bug would be that temperate banks accept their own valuables when 2 different stations are involved 16:22:03 <planetmaker> but might just as well be wrong 16:22:17 <planetmaker> [hta]specx: that's not a bug 16:22:21 <planetmaker> that's by design 16:22:31 <planetmaker> same goes for mail and passengers 16:22:53 <andythenorth> cargo has no destination in the vanilla game 16:22:55 <planetmaker> or for industry sets with other cargos also possibly with other cargos 16:22:57 <[hta]specx> why would that be fine? 16:23:07 <[hta]specx> for pax it is logical 16:23:12 <planetmaker> is it? 16:23:22 <Eddi|zuHause> [hta]specx: origin is defined by first station, not by producing industry 16:23:24 <planetmaker> why should I pay to go from my house's door to my trash bin? 16:23:26 <[hta]specx> a town would accept his own pax because it's moving them within town 16:23:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the game design. 16:23:43 <Eddi|zuHause> [hta]specx: what if the town only has one building? 16:23:45 <[hta]specx> but for valuables for a bank to accept his own stuff seems offbeat to me 16:24:13 <planetmaker> it's the station it is transported from 16:24:16 <[hta]specx> can't think of other industries producing the same stuff as they accept 16:24:23 <[hta]specx> besides mail and pax 16:24:33 <planetmaker> consider it security service to transfer money from stores to the bank 16:24:48 <planetmaker> [hta]specx: engineering supplies ;-) 16:25:03 <planetmaker> or manufacturing supplies 16:25:21 <[hta]specx> that does not make sense to me? 16:25:36 <[hta]specx> a town with one building indeed would emulate same situation 16:25:49 <[hta]specx> provided the building is big enough to produce/accept pax+mail 16:26:37 <[hta]specx> consider it security service to transfer money from stores to the bank 16:26:38 <[hta]specx> lol 16:27:01 <planetmaker> as you don't make money with it. anyway and it'd mean to change quite some fundamental things and given one can explain it like I did above (money transfer to / from stores), it's all fine IMHO 16:28:19 <[hta]specx> but there are no valuables stores in the game 16:28:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:53 <planetmaker> even a successful shoe store or grocery will have at the end of the day some valuables 16:30:09 <planetmaker> simply called money 16:30:20 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.242.213] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:33 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:33:19 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:45 <planetmaker> seems like EOD ;-) 16:34:29 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.242.213] has joined #openttd 16:40:57 * roboboy is bored and should go to sleep 16:41:51 * roboboy orders a new planet from planetmaker 16:42:02 <planetmaker> oh, thank you :-) 16:44:36 <roboboy> what sorts of planets do you make? 16:48:54 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d99-199-8-21.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5511.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:15 <planetmaker> mostly terrestrial ones 16:52:32 <planetmaker> if they eat too much, they become the big ones, though 16:53:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.120.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:50 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 16:55:52 <roboboy> may I have a pluto sized planet please? 16:57:13 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1b076.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:26 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:59:56 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:01:52 <roboboy> gnight 17:05:13 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:26 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 17:07:32 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8927.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:09:58 *** Ploes [~ubuntu@212.183.140.4] has joined #openttd 17:13:29 <planetmaker> [18:55] <roboboy> may I have a pluto sized planet please? <-- dwarf planets are sufficiently around. No problem 17:13:42 <planetmaker> Just another icy body far far away without relevance :-P 17:13:48 <Ploes> pluto isnt a planet. 17:14:17 <planetmaker> That's why I correctly call it a 'dwarf planet' 17:15:02 <Ploes> i didnt think it got that title anymore. or so said steven fry anyway. 17:15:06 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@66.183.112.164] has joined #openttd 17:15:50 <planetmaker> I know, though 17:16:40 <planetmaker> If IAU changed that definition again, it'd be quite publicly known 17:17:49 <Ploes> well, QI says we have 5 moons, so its all a load of nonsence! 17:17:52 <planetmaker> All those objects like Pluto, Vesta, Ceres, Quaoar are officially called 'dwarf planets' as of the IAU meeting in 2006 17:19:44 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-8-21.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:48 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 17:21:44 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D94EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 17:23:30 <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet 17:24:27 <Ploes> you could have editid that in the time it took to get the link 17:24:36 <Ploes> but ill conseed that Wiki is likly correct 17:24:38 <Ploes> this time 17:24:41 *** Adambean [~AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:31 *** Ploes [~ubuntu@212.183.140.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:38 <planetmaker> it is. And history would tell you edits... 17:29:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:29:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.112.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:03 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.112.164] has joined #openttd 17:31:31 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D94EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:05 *** pugi_ [~pugi@p4FCC1EA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:38 * peter1138 grumbles at valgrind somewhat 17:35:08 <peter1138> lots of "Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)" 17:35:23 <peter1138> but it won't tell me what's uninitialized 17:35:45 <peter1138> only thing i can see it's it's a fixed size char array that's been snprintf'd too 17:36:17 <Eddi|zuHause> the "testing dilemma": don't tell me things are wrong, tell me things are right! 17:36:51 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3F55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:51 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 17:36:53 <Alberth> nah, then you get much more output, if all is well 17:37:50 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20224 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#3976]: Depot did not become unsnowy, when snowline rises. 17:40:43 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r11kx196.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: ^^] 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r20225 /trunk/src/lang/ (portuguese.txt romanian.txt slovak.txt): 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: portuguese - 11 changes by SupSuper 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: romanian - 16 changes by tonny 17:45:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: russian - 37 changes by 17:45:32 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: slovak - 11 changes by keso53 17:46:39 *** Dreamxtreme_ [Dreamxtrem@92.19.25.67] has joined #openttd 17:47:15 *** Dreamxtreme [Archimedes@92.19.25.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:20 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-224-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:36 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-242-15.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:50:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:51:38 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 17:51:45 <planetmaker> yipieh @ snowy depots :-) 17:52:04 <Alberth> non-snowy depots, actually 17:52:50 <planetmaker> actually yes 17:53:38 <planetmaker> it got snowy but it never melted again in that testgame ;-) 17:54:14 <Alberth> depots are a cool place to be :) 17:54:25 <planetmaker> seemed like they added a very powerful coolant system to their roofs. Indeed ;-) 18:08:26 <andythenorth> hi hi 18:22:40 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:26:32 *** oniik [~Alexander@171.85-200-14.bkkb.no] has joined #openttd 18:29:37 * andythenorth ponders 18:35:46 <Eddi|zuHause> for a german, "hi hi" sounds like a very sinister laugh... 18:36:01 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 18:36:49 <Eddi|zuHause> like an old woman living in a hut in the woods would do, before it starts shoving the children in the oven 18:37:11 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:41:28 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: no more dubliners for you 18:42:00 <Eddi|zuHause> what's a dubliner? 18:42:55 <Alberth> http://www.free-lyrics.org/The-Dubliners/274873-Welia-Welia-Walia.html 18:43:25 <Alberth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dubliners 18:48:32 *** Cian [~Vision@83-71-9-78-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:03 <Cian> Rubidium it looks like my problems last night were something to do with SDL and the graphics driver in virtualbox... 18:55:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: hm... i was more thinking of HÀnsel und Gretel, when writing that... 18:56:51 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-134-158.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:42 *** Cian [~Vision@83-71-9-78-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has quit [Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!] 19:10:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-113-127.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:17:49 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:17:49 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:53 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:30:59 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 19:32:35 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33:54 <Belugas> andythenorth, QUITE remarquable, tanks :) 19:33:59 <Belugas> hem... i meant... thanks 19:34:06 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 19:40:44 *** fmauneko is now known as Guest1317 19:40:44 *** Guest1317 [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:44 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 19:41:10 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:28 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 19:47:54 *** Kovensky [~kovensky@abraxo.bluebottle.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:02:19 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:05:12 *** oniik [~Alexander@171.85-200-14.bkkb.no] has left #openttd [Leaving.] 20:07:17 *** tdev [~udev@p57B7E245.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:19 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Quit: fmauneko] 20:12:45 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1b076.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: gn8] 20:18:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has joined #openttd 20:23:04 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.242.213] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:25:58 <Eddi|zuHause> "Any mistake at this point will doom you, and your colonists, to certain death. Have a nice day." 20:26:19 <frosch123> outpost 1 ? 20:26:33 <frosch123> (one of the most crappiest unfinished games ever) 20:31:58 <Wolf01> I have outpost 2, but is absurdly difficult from the 4th or the 5th mission 20:32:39 <frosch123> hmm, i cannot remember whether i managed outpost 2, or failed at the last level 20:32:56 <frosch123> hmm, but aren't there difficulty levels? 20:33:13 <frosch123> though i seem to remember that they worked the other way around or so :p 20:33:25 <Wolf01> it's really easy at the beginning, then in one mission there's an escalation of difficulty 20:34:54 <Wolf01> I remember that in one campaign you must flee from the lava and earthquakes, the other campaign instead you must face a viral form which infects the map, you have to build walls lava-proof or virus-proof but they go down in 2 seconds... then what do you do? 20:34:55 *** Amis_ [~Amis@dsl51B65566.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:34:57 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 20:34:58 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-26 20:34:58)] 20:35:27 <frosch123> don't build walls :) 20:35:56 <frosch123> lava is easy in most cases, as you can see in advance where it goes 20:36:54 <frosch123> well, and iirc all disasters are deterministic, so you know what is going to happen 20:37:50 <Wolf01> I always play the lava campaign indeed, at least I can build on cliffs and I'm safe, until the enemy arrives with combat vehicles... 20:38:58 <Wolf01> or I play the "free colony game" 20:39:14 <frosch123> yeah, the combat vehicles are annoying if they come from outside the map 20:39:32 <frosch123> espcially if your own colony is at the very border :p 20:40:11 <frosch123> one of the "free colony games" has the enemy on the map, so you have a chance to shoot them down completely, and then build in piece :p 20:42:58 <Wolf01> nice.. I just installed Diablo 2, I'm on win7 and there are some incompatibilities, so I see only a black screen, so I ran it in windowed mode... it's a little post stamp... 20:43:26 <frosch123> virtual box is your friend :) 20:45:10 <frosch123> i have a 98vm only for orion 2 :p 20:45:24 <planetmaker> hm... somehow the "<" and ">" are converted to "¡" and "¿" 20:45:30 <Wolf01> I'll try more solutions first, the first thing to do is to patch to latest version 20:45:58 <Wolf01> planetmaker, keyboard keys or ottd? 20:46:08 <planetmaker> in latex ;-) 20:46:12 <Alberth> planetmaker: $<$ 20:46:13 <Wolf01> ah :) 20:48:29 <Wolf01> mmmh, I'm trying to get bad blocks error messages from my NAS, I got them (about 20) until I sent an email to the support center, they asked me for a screenshot and now all bad blocks disappeared 20:49:26 <Wolf01> it might be because I plugged it to the UPSed plug? 20:52:33 <frosch123> night 20:52:37 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5511.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:42 <Wolf01> eheh with the last patch it supports wide screens, plus no-cd :P 21:00:43 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.236.183] has joined #openttd 21:06:51 <andythenorth> how did I break Arctic? 21:07:04 <andythenorth> I can't get towns to generate above snowline, I've tried about 20 maps 21:07:16 <andythenorth> makes Arctic kind of pointless 21:07:29 <andythenorth> (I want towns that need food to grow) 21:07:53 <andythenorth> am I doing something wrong? :( 21:08:07 <planetmaker> andythenorth: clean trunk? 21:08:13 <andythenorth> yup 21:08:26 <planetmaker> works for me then.... 21:08:35 <planetmaker> rough surface and mountainous? 21:08:54 <andythenorth> yup 21:09:54 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:09:59 <andythenorth> screw it. actually playing the game is over-rated anyway 21:11:35 <andythenorth> the map generator has way too many options. There are something like 4x4x6x4 combinations of landscape settings, multiplied by a 10 digit random seed and the random map edges 21:11:44 <andythenorth> and 21:11:49 <Sacro> andythenorth: the game? 21:11:56 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: don't look now 21:12:08 <Rubidium> andythenorth: and still people think it's not configurable enough 21:12:17 <andythenorth> it's far from configurable 21:12:28 * Prof_Frink throws Sacro off an alp 21:12:28 <andythenorth> it's only configurable in the way that magic eight ball is configurable 21:12:46 <andythenorth> it's only configurable in the way that picking a random number is configurable 21:12:50 * andythenorth rants a bit less 21:13:00 <andythenorth> the sea level is *very* configurable :) 21:13:37 <andythenorth> the number of towns and industries are very configurable 21:13:48 <andythenorth> the terrain is frustrating 21:14:04 <andythenorth> 20 mins of random guesses just to try and get some towns above snowline 21:14:06 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@209.80-203-100.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:14:29 * andythenorth has an idea 21:14:38 <planetmaker> snow line maybe too high? 21:14:42 <andythenorth> 2... 21:15:21 * andythenorth googles to see if savegames canbe modified in scenario editor? 21:15:38 <planetmaker> andythenorth: yes. rename to *.scn and go ahead 21:16:10 <andythenorth> that means I can randomly place towns in scenario editor 21:16:24 <planetmaker> you could fund them ingame 21:16:50 <planetmaker> buy your own town ;-) 21:21:12 <andythenorth> renaming savegame didn't work. OpenTTD won't find the file. 21:21:19 * andythenorth is going to bed :[ 21:21:29 <andythenorth> sad sad sad :P 21:22:15 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:01 *** tdev [~udev@p57B7E245.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:18 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:971:541f:2655:d8f2] has joined #openttd 21:41:18 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:58e1:49ae:80d9:713f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:19 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 21:45:28 <Wolf01> 'night 21:45:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:48:33 *** MindlessTux [~bdavenpor@mail.companioncabinet.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:16 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:55:47 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 22:14:07 *** tdev [~udev@p508EA493.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:24:45 *** BlackXanthus [~Berk@87.113.98.53.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 22:24:51 <BlackXanthus> evenin all 22:32:31 *** asnoehu [~thok@cc64025-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:11 *** BlackXanthus [~Berk@87.113.98.53.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has left #openttd [] 22:43:01 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8927.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:06 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C340.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:11 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cffe.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59:20 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@209.80-203-100.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:34 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.7.248] has joined #openttd 23:00:13 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:23 <NoBrainHere> Hi. 23:00:45 *** NoBrainHere is now known as JetWorm 23:02:04 <JetWorm> Is Atari likely to release TT(D) for tablet PC? 23:02:43 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.112.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:03:03 <JetWorm> some crappy tablet with linux-nobody-cares-about and P1-level CPU. 23:03:20 *** Goulp [~Goulp@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:27 <JetWorm> or about as crappy netbook (like Pandora) 23:05:41 <JetWorm> And if it occurred, what'd you do? 23:06:18 *** mode/#openttd [+q *!*@178.34.7.248] by Rubidium 23:07:14 *** JetWorm [~yuraconst@178.34.7.248] has left #openttd [] 23:10:57 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:11:06 *** Dreamxtreme_ [Dreamxtrem@92.19.25.67] has quit [Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad] 23:16:12 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.0.111.164] has joined #openttd 23:16:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:50 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:22:09 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D94EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 23:24:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:10 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 23:37:16 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has joined #openttd 23:38:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 23:40:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr2 [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has joined #openttd 23:44:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.177.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:36 <Terkhen> good night 23:51:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@66.183.112.164] has joined #openttd 23:55:00 *** tdev [~udev@p508EA493.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 23:57:30 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd