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00:03:24 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:07:27 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:20 *** MrBlack [~MrBlack@c-24-131-130-47.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 00:14:50 *** davis [~b@p5B28A561.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:39 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.10/20100914125854]] 00:27:07 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1927d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: gn8] 00:37:14 *** Chillosophy [~fu@82-170-139-109.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [] 00:42:34 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:54 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:55:54 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:58:31 <Lakie> Um, am I the only one having issues with object cb15C? 01:03:05 *** LaSeandre_ [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 01:05:55 <TruePikachu> Hmm...any major developments sinve 1.0.4? 01:06:05 <TruePikachu> s/sinve/since 01:06:10 <Lakie> objects support in trunk? 01:06:37 <TruePikachu> Oh. Well, I've been out of the community for a while 01:07:10 <Lakie> Theres probably quite a bit but I don't follow OpenTTD too closely to tell you. :) 01:07:15 <TruePikachu> Wait, what kind of objects? Objects in-game, or object-oriented objects a la C++ 01:07:25 <Lakie> Um, newgrf objects, classA 01:07:46 <Lakie> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=49783 ? 01:08:02 * TruePikachu is glad he's SSHing from PuTTY under Windows 01:08:44 * Lakie inserts some more asserts to attempt to workout whats happening 01:09:01 <Lakie> Since it appears I cannot set breakpoints in vs 01:09:35 <TruePikachu> Wait, so now we should be able to build objects under bridges? 01:09:43 <Lakie> In thoery? 01:09:57 <TruePikachu> I mean, like bridge OVER a station 01:10:04 <glx> no 01:10:07 <Lakie> um, negitive 01:10:17 <glx> stations are stations, not objects 01:11:41 <TruePikachu> Oh...well, bridges over industries? 01:12:20 <Lakie> I'm guessing not 01:13:17 <TruePikachu> Hmmm...so, are these objects going to work kind of like objects in Sims, where each object gets it's own behaviour, instead of using the map array? 01:13:56 <Lakie> Objects are refered to as "eye candy" 01:14:13 <Lakie> In essence tile(s) which are used purely for decoration 01:14:38 <TruePikachu> And that's it? We're just adding ee candy? 01:14:41 <TruePikachu> *eye 01:15:13 <Lakie> Well, thats newgrf "objects", yes 01:16:06 <TruePikachu> So, basically, looking at the past few developments I've seen, trunk is currently working on improving NewGRF compatability? 01:16:22 *** lewymati [~lewymati@static-78-8-146-157.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [] 01:20:05 <Lakie> Unsure, 01:25:56 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:56 <glx> objects are a new newgrf feature 02:24:01 *** illyume [~illyume@c-174-52-247-223.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:30:43 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1461:e4a8:de8c:d973] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:31:50 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:37:34 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:56:43 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 03:17:18 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:26:15 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c8c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 03:27:39 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 03:33:38 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c441.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:02 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:46:35 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49:13 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:21 *** illyume is now known as Carci 04:04:04 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 04:17:46 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:20:01 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c8c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24:47 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ohbai] 04:40:54 *** Neil` [~neil@cpc5-wiga12-2-0-cust153.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 04:44:38 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:52:14 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 05:00:35 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74FD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:03:28 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7558C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:14:28 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.54.232] has joined #openttd 05:18:41 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.20.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:49:00 <Carci> I'm feeling kinda proud of how this little map's turning out. :D 06:01:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B74FD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22:11 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:33:52 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:43:47 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 06:49:17 *** lolman_ [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:53:59 *** lolman- [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:55:55 *** lolman [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:00:28 *** lolman_ [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:13:56 *** GecK [Geck@pro75-3-82-229-184-63.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 07:13:58 <GecK> hi 07:14:13 <Carci> Hiya 07:15:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:31:56 *** Carci [~illyume@c-174-52-247-223.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:37:59 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.54.232] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:59:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:00:39 <peter1138> So... ext4 vs xfs...? 08:06:15 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5e06d02d.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 08:06:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06d02d.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06:28 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 08:12:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:19:47 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 08:47:13 <dihedral> morning 08:54:05 <dihedral> why on earth this that new patch packs size over 7MB for a linux build? 08:58:42 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED67292.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:01:26 <Alberth> debug symbols? 09:01:59 <Alberth> just download the patch, and build yourself :) 09:11:45 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED67292.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:18:07 <Rubidium> because it contains the original graphics and such? 09:18:36 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:19:36 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:25:03 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:25:22 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26:37 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:04 <peter1138> hurr 09:28:37 <Rubidium> peter1138: what do you want to use the file system on? A server with jails? 09:29:03 <Rubidium> in that case I'd suggest one of the reiserfs-es ;) 09:30:47 <peter1138> hurr hurr hurr 09:30:53 <peter1138> no, just /home on my home pc 09:34:25 * Rubidium never conciously looked into the real differences between ext[234] and xfs; I'm personally using ext4 by now, though openttd's server uses xfs 09:35:00 <Rubidium> seems like zernebok uses reiserfs 09:35:05 *** Kitty_Away [myBirthDay@188.247.74.179] has joined #openttd 09:35:34 <peter1138> ouch 09:36:17 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:48 <Rubidium> do you want to has file creation timestamps, use ext4. Do you want to be able to resize while the FS is mounted, use xfs 09:39:57 <__ln__> do + has = bjarni grammar 09:40:07 <Rubidium> oh... didn't know that for ext[234] a binary doesn't need to be loaded into RAM to be executed 09:40:39 <Rubidium> but then xfs has snapshots and ext[234] doesn't 09:41:56 *** keoz [~keikoz@141.2.96.19] has joined #openttd 09:46:40 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20862 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStar_Free() a method. 09:47:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20863 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_Loop a method. 09:47:54 <__ln__> A method? Is that Java? 09:48:05 <Alberth> c++ also has methods :) 09:49:19 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20864 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h npf.cpp): -Codechange: Make AyStar_Clear() a method. 09:49:25 *** lolman- [~lolman@188-220-38-226.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:49:25 <__ln__> C++ has member functions 09:49:46 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:52:09 <Alberth> Stroustrup says they are also called "method" 09:53:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20865 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_CheckTile() a method. 09:54:05 <Rubidium> oh booh... my guess what the next commit would be was wrong :( 09:54:56 <Rubidium> although the diff looks somewhat funky 09:55:12 <Rubidium> hmm, or not 09:55:19 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:55:28 * Rubidium is just looking at the wrong lines of the diff 09:55:44 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20866 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: CheckTile() always returns the same (ignored) value. 09:58:18 <Alberth> no worries, the next two are again predictable :) 09:58:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20867 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h npf.cpp): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_AddStartNode() a method. 09:59:43 *** Kitty_Away [myBirthDay@188.247.74.179] has quit [Quit: /Server irc.NiceChat.org] 09:59:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20868 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h npf.cpp): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_Main() a method. 10:00:46 <TrueBrain> woei, someone is C++-ifying my and blathijs' work :D 10:01:12 <Alberth> hello TrueBrain :) 10:01:18 <__ln__> http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002040.html 10:02:44 <Alberth> __ln__: nice :D 10:03:32 * Alberth looks for more code changes (but first some food) 10:05:13 <Alberth> TrueBrain: a few weeks ago I c++-ified the binary heap, and came across this code too. 10:05:35 <Alberth> at the time I still had hope that people would have more interest in my industry creation patch :) 10:05:36 <TrueBrain> also from the same author's ;) 10:05:55 <Alberth> style is the same, so that was to be expected :) 10:06:46 <TrueBrain> the good old days 10:06:54 <TrueBrain> very very old code :) 10:06:57 <Alberth> although why you setup pointers to the 'methods' is still a mystery, as there are no other cases 10:07:10 <TrueBrain> portability 10:07:14 <TrueBrain> in that time it was 'hot' 10:07:16 <TrueBrain> :D 10:07:40 <Alberth> :D 10:08:12 <Rubidium> portability or reuseability? 10:08:56 <TrueBrain> modularity 10:14:17 <Alberth> how are the open dunes doing? 10:14:54 <TrueBrain> slowly 10:15:00 <TrueBrain> got side-tracked so often, I lost count :) 10:16:06 <Rubidium> 14 commits in 4 months 10:16:41 <Alberth> that qualifies as 'slow' indeed :) 10:17:10 <Rubidium> 26 in the last 4 months for TTDPatch 10:20:05 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 10:25:22 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:37 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:31:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.15.143] has joined #openttd 10:43:52 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:44:52 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:48:15 *** keoz [~keikoz@141.2.96.19] has quit [Quit: keoz] 10:49:23 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:31 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:03 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9FAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:11:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@212.183.140.31] has joined #openttd 11:25:08 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:29:59 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c8c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:30:59 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-144-31.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:55 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-148-11.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:44 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.233.21] has joined #openttd 11:56:50 *** G [~njones@whio.jnet.net.nz] has joined #openttd 11:57:11 <G> quick question, does PBS take into account distance to the end signal? 11:59:23 <Alberth> I don't even see how that could be relevant 11:59:44 *** Brianett1 [~brian@212.183.140.57] has joined #openttd 12:00:00 <Alberth> you are going to need x tiles to the destination, how could it be relevant in which block they are? 12:00:41 <G> good point, specifically in my example this is to a station, so it'd also be a shorter path to the station 12:01:30 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5C4B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:01:55 *** Silasle [~silas_len@h88-206-139-246.vokby.se] has joined #openttd 12:02:55 <Alberth> distance to the target *is* taken into account :) 12:04:09 <Ammler> afaik, it does use end signal for penalty calculation 12:04:30 <Ammler> you see that well, if you use 2way eol 12:05:20 <Alberth> You can open the openttd.cfg file in a text editor, to see all settings 12:05:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@212.183.140.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:34 <G> hmmmm 12:05:49 <G> setting rail_look_ahead_signal_p1 to -90 seems to have helped 12:13:09 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3819:b5c8:2267:a0ac] has joined #openttd 12:13:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:13:30 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has joined #openttd 12:17:35 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-32-190.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:40 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-249-199.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 12:19:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:23:36 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s5590300f.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:23:55 <Luukland> Mr. dihedral :) Have you yet forwarded our comments on the new competition algorithm? 12:25:22 <peter1138> Oh hai 12:25:35 <peter1138> Whose EULA did you copy for your guidelines text? Hah 12:37:51 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54:09 <Rubidium> oh, that EULA. Still have to make a choice whether to prevent my not-a-proper-OpenTTD-client applications from connecting to those servers 12:57:08 *** Silasle [~silas_len@h88-206-139-246.vokby.se] has left #openttd [] 12:58:53 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 13:03:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7973.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-114-192.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:11:05 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:47 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED67292.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:13:23 *** ryx [~paul@f053215122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:14:16 *** Brianett1 [~brian@212.183.140.57] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 13:14:20 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 13:22:16 <Ammler> Luukland: where have you placed your comments? 13:22:28 <Ammler> maybe you better post those on forums or fs 13:38:12 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s5590300f.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76F86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:40 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.54.232] has joined #openttd 13:54:11 *** Lnd [~Yatta@mon69-3-82-235-38-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:16 <Lnd> hello :3 13:54:50 <Lnd> quick question : is there a way to do multiple copies/clones of a vehicle at once ? (when you want to do 20 trucks copies for instance) 13:57:18 <Lnd> (oh nice, i have a forest with 6 sawmills just nearby :s ...) 13:58:51 <Alberth> not as far as I know 14:02:29 <peter1138> just click clone 20 times... 14:02:33 <peter1138> not hard :D 14:02:53 <frosch123> or build a train 14:04:44 <G> peter1138: the only thing w/ that is you suddenly get 20 little windows that you likely didn't want :) 14:06:16 * Eddi|zuHause remembers the time when building the 7th vehicle closes the depot window 14:09:07 <Eddi|zuHause> so... what does one do while the system installs? 14:09:20 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:09:34 <Rubidium> ssh to your server and talk a bit or IRC 14:09:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i need a way to magically switch my mouse to control two PCs 14:10:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't need ssh (yet) to get to the "server" 14:10:38 <Rubidium> ssh to your server and write a chapter of your master thesis; after all that's written with LaTeX 14:10:45 <G> Eddi|zuHause: if you've got multiple monitors, use Synergy 14:11:00 <Eddi|zuHause> G: i have one monitor with two inputs 14:11:19 <Eddi|zuHause> DVI (new computer) and D-SUB (old computer) 14:11:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i have two keyboards, but only one mouse 14:11:41 <G> guess you could still use synergy 14:12:09 <Eddi|zuHause> well... i have a mini-joystick-kind-of-thingie-that-is-treated-like-a-mouse as well, but that's kinda weird to use 14:12:30 <SpComb> trackpoint (clone) 14:12:40 <SpComb> and you're wrong, they're awesome 14:13:43 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: i don't know what you think this is, but the directions of movement are wrong... you need to hold it the wrong way around 14:14:41 <SpComb> hmm 14:14:46 <SpComb> possibly fixable in software 14:15:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and the cable is too short 14:22:57 <Eddi|zuHause> synergy looks fine... just i have no way to automatically switch the monitor input 14:29:30 <ccfreak2k> I use Synergy between my desktop and netbook. 14:31:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling they have server and client mixed up... 14:31:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20869 /branches/1.0/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 14:31:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk: 14:31:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Assert when an industry previously build on water was flooded because its NewGRF changed/is missing [FS#4112] (r20754) 14:31:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do not use new game settings when creating many random towns/industries in the scenario editor [FS#4094] (r20712, r20711) 14:31:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Graphic glitch when switching to a different-sized font while the chat message box was visible (r20705) 14:31:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Vehicle lists of non-trains could not resize horizontally causing truncation of texts [FS#4123, FS#3955] (r20174) 14:33:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20870 /branches/1.0/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 14:33:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk: 14:33:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Building 2x2 houses did not work for 2x2 road layouts on all map sizes (r20791) 14:33:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Remove a check which is wrong for NewGRF houses and serves no use for original houses [FS#4118] (r20790) 14:33:49 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Spelling mistake in slovak real town names (r20787) 14:33:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Do autosave-on-exit as well when using kill/CTRL-C to terminate a dedicated OpenTTD (r20783) 14:33:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] AIEventCompanyAskMerger was disguised as AIEventCompanyMerger (r20765) 14:34:17 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ffe4c000-43.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:41:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20871 /branches/1.0/src/ (ai/api/ai_tile.hpp house.h newgrf.cpp newgrf_engine.cpp): 14:41:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk: 14:41:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Clamp/convert some vehicle variables so NewGRFs get their specified range (r20800, r20799, r20795) 14:41:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] Document that AITile::HasTransportType does not work for TRANSPORT_AIR [FS#4117] (r20798) 14:41:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Disable houses without a size that are available according to their building flags (r20797) 14:41:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NewGRF] Make sure all houses in the house spec array are valid. It was possible that part of a multitile house was not copied because the array was full (r20796) 14:41:29 <Eddi|zuHause> ideally i'd like to have a virtual windows on tty8 and a remote connection to my "server" on tty9 14:48:21 <Alberth> you can run several X servers at the same time 14:51:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20872 /branches/1.0/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): 14:51:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [1.0] -Backport from trunk: 14:51:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Road/water toolbars did not get updated when the first vehicle of their type becomes available [FS#4141] (r20856) 14:51:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Smallmap legend buttons must all be equal in size, even if their contents is not (r20851) 14:51:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Deadlock when aborting map generation on Windows [FS#3707] (r20822) 14:51:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Be a bit more lenient w.r.t. invalid savegames; do not crash on saveload related NOT_REACHEDs, just show the user an error that the savegame is corrupted [FS#3714] (r20819) 14:51:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: - Fix: Make the crash-on-saveload message clearer and more correct [FS#3791] (r20818) 14:51:47 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:01:20 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@host81-157-87-106.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:03:21 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d8207e7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:07 <andythenorth_> afternoon 15:11:53 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@pool-98-119-100-9.lsanca.btas.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:12:48 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:15:14 <andythenorth_> Alberth: anyone else testing the industry patch? 15:15:30 <Alberth> no :( :( :( 15:15:41 <andythenorth_> ship it anyway :P 15:15:47 <andythenorth_> works for me 15:16:07 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 15:16:19 <Alberth> everybody seems too busy hacking and playing random patch packs 15:16:35 <andythenorth_> maybe no-one plays any more :) 15:17:34 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:17:53 <Alberth> I am wondering whether to join the enemy, and ask Chillcore to include the patch :p 15:19:20 <Ammler> Alberth: you have access to a "bigger" patch pack ;-) 15:19:29 <Ammler> some call it trunk :-) 15:21:44 <SpComb> sounds pretty arbitrary 15:21:46 <Rubidium> Ammler: any patchpack based on trunk is a bigger patch pack than trunk 15:21:52 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has joined #openttd 15:22:00 <SpComb> how is this "trunk" thing organized? 15:22:08 <Alberth> it is not :) 15:22:45 <Ammler> Rubidium: also true :-P 15:23:33 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... something's wrong with my network... 15:24:00 <Eddi|zuHause> as far as i can see, cable connectivity is fine, but pinging doesn't work 15:24:22 <Alberth> firewall? 15:24:26 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: what OS? 15:24:41 <Rubidium> SpComb: it's just adding patches on patches 15:24:44 <Eddi|zuHause> both linux 15:24:46 <Rubidium> not really organised 15:24:58 <Eddi|zuHause> local network should not be firewalled 15:25:18 <andythenorth_> Alberth: industry code is bonkers anyway....just add some more to the madness :) 15:25:18 <GhostlyDeath> Eddi|zuHause: Are you on the correct network? 15:25:43 <GhostlyDeath> Add a Jail Industry 15:25:53 <GhostlyDeath> Cities and Towns provide Criminals 15:25:59 <GhostlyDeath> Jail accepts prisoners 15:26:00 <Alberth> too negative 15:26:07 <GhostlyDeath> and supplies passengers 15:26:40 <Eddi|zuHause> both devices are set up as 192.168.10.x 15:26:41 <GhostlyDeath> Have it appear when everyone hates your company because you got bad ratings 15:26:50 <Eddi|zuHause> where x is 1 or 2 15:26:54 <GhostlyDeath> Eddi|zuHause: Connected to a router? 15:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> connected to a switch, no router. 1 is the router 15:27:15 <SpComb> GhostlyDeath: the correct place for those is the suggestions forum, where they are appropriately ignored :) 15:27:28 <Eddi|zuHause> 1 would be the router, if it was reachable 15:27:32 <GhostlyDeath> I had trouble sleeping last night 15:27:41 <GhostlyDeath> Everytime I closed my eyes I saw OpenTTD 15:28:14 <__ln__> GhostlyDeath: with original graphics or opengfx? 15:28:20 <GhostlyDeath> Open 15:29:04 <GhostlyDeath> heh 15:29:09 <GhostlyDeath> Buses would be more useful 15:29:19 <GhostlyDeath> Instead of just transporting passengers, they can transport prisoners too 15:30:29 <GhostlyDeath> SpComb: Are the two computers far away? 15:31:14 <GhostlyDeath> router connected to switch with 50 footer, switch connected to pc with 50 footer? 15:31:25 <Alberth> alternatively, you can code a newgrf with that functionality 15:31:46 <GhostlyDeath> if it accepts C 15:32:12 <__ln__> GhostlyDeath: are there prisons? 15:32:25 <GhostlyDeath> In real life there are 15:34:29 <Alberth> NML is as close as you are going to get to C currently 15:34:37 <GhostlyDeath> NML? 15:34:48 <Alberth> luckily RL is not a design goal for OpenTTD :) 15:35:14 <Alberth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml 15:35:21 <__ln__> GhostlyDeath: are there crimes in OpenTTD? 15:35:43 <GhostlyDeath> No, but you can add crime by making towns provide criminals 15:36:40 <__ln__> wouldn't that require a courthouse that provides criminals 15:37:19 <GhostlyDeath> would just be another building 15:41:59 * andythenorth_ ponders FIRS cargo chains :| 15:43:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i managed it... 15:43:55 <Eddi|zuHause> this setup thingie totally messed up the bridge configuration 15:44:14 <Eddi|zuHause> as in, it set up a bridge, but didn't add any devices into it 15:44:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:47:57 <Alberth> andythenorth_: stop pondering, bring it to a 'finished' state instead :) 15:48:32 <Eddi|zuHause> anybody having a decent suggestion for replacing kaffeine? (as in, a program that can both do TV and video) 15:48:45 <GhostlyDeath> totem? 15:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> what's that? 15:49:47 <GhostlyDeath> Media player 15:50:27 <Eddi|zuHause> it says gnome... 15:50:39 <GhostlyDeath> Doesn't matter 15:50:59 <GhostlyDeath> You don't need KDE to run KDE apps, you don't need GNOME to run GNOME apps 15:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but i don't put a pink roof on a yellow car either... 15:51:57 <GhostlyDeath> So you are limiting yourself to what fits in 15:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause> not limit, but prefer... 15:52:35 <GhostlyDeath> You can alwayse use QT-looks or something 15:52:42 <GhostlyDeath> makes GTK apps look like Qt 15:53:32 <GhostlyDeath> All it does is intercept GTK drawing calls and uses QT's drawing functions instead 15:54:14 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@pool-98-119-100-9.lsanca.btas.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 15:59:20 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm63.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:59:51 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@95.154.197.17] has joined #openttd 16:00:51 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe 16:00:56 <Eddi|zuHause> any other suggestions? 16:07:33 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.233.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:24 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: why you need one app for both? 16:08:40 *** LaSeandre_ [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:49 <Ammler> just use smplayer, kaffeine, vlc at once :-) 16:09:32 <Ammler> vlc is imo still best for streaming things 16:09:49 *** LaSeandre_ [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:13:20 <GhostlyDeath> The new vlc sucks 16:13:53 <GhostlyDeath> They changed the interface to make it look all flashy 16:14:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: at least on my old computer, having two programs which need xv doesn't work 16:14:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and unaccelerated video really sucks 16:14:51 <Eddi|zuHause> and closing one app to start the other really sucks even more 16:14:54 <Ammler> I have also quite a old desktop for tv 16:15:05 <Ammler> if something doesn't work, with vlc it will 16:15:36 <Eddi|zuHause> and i don't need streaming 16:16:08 <Ammler> (PIII 800Mhz) 16:16:15 <GhostlyDeath> Get a media player that doesn't support MPEG, MP3, or OGG 16:16:53 <Ammler> but the box doesn't tune self, that is done by Dreambox 16:17:18 <GhostlyDeath> this computer has a TV tuner but I don't watch TV on it 16:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, and i have a box that does tune... 16:17:41 <Eddi|zuHause> and i need an application that can use that tuner 16:17:41 <Ammler> isn't vlc able to? 16:17:44 <Eddi|zuHause> kaffeine can 16:17:55 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.252.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause> but 0.8 is kde3, and 1.0 really sucks 16:18:21 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.252.230] has joined #openttd 16:18:34 <Ammler> or use a VDR distro 16:19:01 <Ammler> xmms or so? 16:19:35 <Eddi|zuHause> what the hell would i need a "distro" for, if i'm searching for a simple application? 16:19:37 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:22:29 <Ammler> :-) 16:22:47 <Ammler> xmms isn't btw. :-P 16:23:14 <GhostlyDeath> totem is simple 16:23:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:32 <Ammler> too many gnome dependencies imo 16:26:27 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 16:26:38 <GhostlyDeath> It just depends on gstreamer and GTK mostly 16:27:04 <GhostlyDeath> The only thing I see that is GNOME is gconf 16:27:31 <GhostlyDeath> and an extension for nautilus 16:28:12 <GhostlyDeath> None of the stuff depends on the core of GNOME at al 16:28:14 <GhostlyDeath> all* 16:28:30 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@host81-157-87-106.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 16:28:51 <GhostlyDeath> I use Window Maker 16:32:21 <Ammler> nautilus? 16:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause> the gnome file browser, afaik 16:33:30 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9FAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:33:34 <Ammler> yes, quite bad, if you have it installed on a KDE system 16:33:47 <Eddi|zuHause> brb 16:34:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76F86.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:35:03 <GhostlyDeath> The dependecies in totem do not fall back to depending on nautilus at all 16:35:27 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:35:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:41 <GhostlyDeath> I can remove nautilus without any incident, but even though I don't use it I have it installed anyway 16:37:21 <Ammler> well, I had some troubles to "teach" Firefox not using nautilus 16:37:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75141.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:48 <GhostlyDeath> might be a mime type association problem 16:39:21 <GhostlyDeath> Currently in nautilus if I were to open a C file it would open in AbiWord 16:40:06 <GhostlyDeath> so i went into /usr/share/applications and similars and started changing things around 16:40:50 <GhostlyDeath> Would make associations in GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and other WMs that use FreeDesktop stuff stick 16:41:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75141.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:45:06 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Quit: fmauneko] 16:46:59 *** Katje [~Kitty@tao.quixotic.eu] has joined #openttd 16:47:15 <Katje> I am running openttd version 1.0.1 (from debian), and I have no working AI 16:47:18 <nicfer> luukland's server gms are fascists 16:47:19 <Katje> any ideas why ? 16:47:51 <nicfer> they banned me because I didn't answer a question 16:48:55 <nicfer> and then they didn't answer me and had to spam to call their attention 16:49:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Katje: need to download them 16:49:41 <Katje> any recommendations ? 16:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause> not really 16:50:33 <Eddi|zuHause> the ais are done by community people, not the openttd devs 16:52:03 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:55 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:44 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.10.198] has joined #openttd 17:01:02 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.54.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:08 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:29 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:18:30 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.10.198] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20:53 *** davis [~b@p5B2894F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:10 <Terkhen> hello 17:21:44 <Alberth> hello 17:23:34 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:09 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:39 <Alberth> hmm, we don't have an overview of AIs at the wiki yet 17:30:38 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:33 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:36:29 <Ammler> http://bananas.openttd.org/en/ai/ 17:38:35 <Alberth> I was looking for something with a few lines of description, so users can select an AI 17:38:59 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@host81-157-87-106.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:39:11 <Ammler> the bananas description doesn't fit? 17:41:12 <Alberth> I didn't realize it existed, but you are right, much better 17:44:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r20873 /trunk/src/lang/ (arabic_egypt.txt dutch.txt spanish.txt unfinished/tamil.txt): 17:44:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:44:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 37 changes by kasakg 17:44:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 1 changes by megabyte 17:44:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: spanish - 2 changes by Terkhen 17:44:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: tamil - 1 changes by vv 17:47:26 <GhostlyDeath> I shall write an AI that does nothing 17:47:37 <GhostlyDeath> or it just builds roads spending all of it's money and makes no profit 17:53:04 <Alberth> the former already exists 17:59:33 * Ammler should upload nothing.grf to bananas 18:02:32 <Alberth> oh, it will be downloaded very often, just like my 'example staircase' heightmap :) 45639 times already 18:05:30 <andythenorth_> how much is the game downloaded at the moment? 18:05:37 <Rubidium> 0 18:06:16 <Rubidium> under the assumption that downloading is an atomic action of near 0 time 18:06:42 <andythenorth_> is that more or less than normal :P 18:06:48 <andythenorth_> ? 18:06:51 <Rubidium> the mean is 0 18:07:07 <andythenorth_> so about average then? 18:07:09 <andythenorth_> statistically 18:07:39 <Rubidium> hmm... this is going the wrong way... 18:07:57 <Rubidium> but then you should specify some timeframe for measurement instead of a single point in time 18:08:00 <andythenorth_> :) 18:08:15 <andythenorth_> how about monthyl 18:08:17 <andythenorth_> monthly /s 18:08:18 <andythenorth_> ? 18:08:30 <andythenorth_> how did september compare to previous n months? 18:08:50 <Rubidium> I'll update my pdf for you 18:09:01 <andythenorth_> seems forums are very quiet to me....some sub-forums don't change for days/weeks 18:09:10 <Rubidium> though that'll have daily counts 18:09:28 <andythenorth_> thanks 18:10:15 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/stats.pdf <- there.. some graphs 18:10:37 <Rubidium> specially for you, without labels, legendas and the likes 18:12:51 <andythenorth_> is the y axis on the first chart downloads or bandwidth? 18:13:13 <Rubidium> downloads 18:13:44 <andythenorth_> one or two very big days :o 18:13:54 <andythenorth_> and generally increasing 18:14:18 <andythenorth_> so guessing interest in the game hasn't levelled out / fallen 18:14:29 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:29 <andythenorth_> maybe quiet forums == it's nearly done 18:14:41 <andythenorth_> or maybe bananas removes need to visit forums so much 18:16:53 <Rubidium> I think it's the general "begin of the school/university year" syndrom 18:17:36 <Rubidium> you can see a fair "lack" of commits during the weekdays in OpenTTD's repository as well 18:17:59 <andythenorth_> that'll be the 'work' syndrome 18:18:01 <andythenorth_> :) 18:18:25 <andythenorth_> in my case the 'work + baby' syndrome (different repo, same pattern) 18:18:48 *** Chillosophy [~fu@82-170-139-109.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:18:49 <Alberth> my repo's at work suffer from the 'weekend' syndrome :p 18:19:25 <Rubidium> well, I'd actually say that the begin of school year syndrome bleeds into the corporate world. Lots of new projects that get started up just after the holidays/vacation and such 18:20:57 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:56 <andythenorth_> yup 18:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> hmz... different fonts look ugly 18:23:21 <Eddi|zuHause> yes they do. 18:24:42 <Rubidium> ghehe... and that given the research that humans have difficulty seeing differences 18:25:49 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.252.230] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:25:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> but... it shouldn't be different at all.. 18:25:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> i copied over the configuration 18:28:05 <Alberth> then perhaps different fonts are installed? 18:33:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have a feeling it's the screen resolution or dpi setting 18:34:54 <Rubidium> quite likely dpi 18:34:55 <ryx> I managed to get a tram completely stuck on a level crossing 18:36:18 <ryx> and as usual, asking in irc helps me resolve the problem... 18:36:24 <ryx> nevermind 18:39:56 <Eddi|zuHause> default connected 1680x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm 18:40:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> DVI-0 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 473mm x 296mm 18:40:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> output of xrandr 18:41:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.187.15] has joined #openttd 18:46:36 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.252.230] has joined #openttd 18:47:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.190.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:31 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.10.198] has joined #openttd 18:50:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:55:47 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.10.198] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:06 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 19:00:43 *** Chillosophy [~fu@82-170-139-109.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [] 19:04:23 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3819:b5c8:2267:a0ac] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:10 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:19:04 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm63.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 19:19:11 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 19:19:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:08 <GhostlyDeath> Are there any interactive training tutorials? 19:24:17 <Alberth> the wiki has a small tutorial, and there are youtube videos 19:26:32 <Ammler> we have a tut save, but might be a bit old... 19:28:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20874 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h npf.cpp): -Codechange: Make init_AyStar a method. 19:30:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20875 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_OpenList_Add a method. 19:31:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20876 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_OpenList_Pop a method. 19:31:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> updates to npf? 19:32:16 <Alberth> just refactoring the code towards c++-ish 19:32:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20877 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_OpenList_IsInList a method. 19:33:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20878 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_ClosedList_Add a method. 19:33:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... either my mainboard or my dvd drive is a few millimeter too long for this case... 19:34:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20879 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make AyStarMain_ClosedList_IsInList a method. 19:35:11 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: nothing a saw can solve 19:38:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20880 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make Hash_Size a method. 19:38:44 <andythenorth_> how about a 'fund random industry' button 19:38:47 <andythenorth_> ? 19:39:17 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20881 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make Hash_Get a method. 19:39:54 <Alberth> close your eyes and click at the window :p 19:41:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20882 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make Hash_Set a method. 19:42:01 * Rubidium points to $baby for that feature 19:42:27 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20883 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make Hash_Delete a method. 19:43:14 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20884 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make clear_Hash a method. 19:43:20 <Rubidium> wow... over 20 commits in 10 hours... what a difference with the previous days 19:43:28 * andythenorth_ likes Alberth's suggestion :P 19:43:41 <Alberth> cats also work, ask Eddi :) 19:44:41 <Alberth> Rubidium: they are quite boring 19:44:44 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20885 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make delete_Hash a method. 19:46:08 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20886 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make init_Hash a method. 19:47:05 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20887 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make stat_Hash a method. 19:48:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20888 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (queue.cpp queue.h): -Codechange: Make Hash_FindNode a method. 19:51:05 <Ammler> does someone still use npf? 19:51:20 <Ammler> or is that for save compatibilty? 19:51:51 <Alberth> No idea, it is code that can be improved :) 19:53:02 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20889 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Codechange: Make ClosedListHash, OpenListQueue, and OpenListHash data protected, and rename for coding style. 19:55:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20890 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (aystar.cpp aystar.h): -Doc: Make documentation accessible to doxygen. 19:59:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i can't get this tv card to tune... 20:00:05 <Rubidium> Ammler: it's pretty useful to figure out whether something is PF related or not 20:01:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> Alberth: actually, my cats tend to avoid stepping on the keyboard 20:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> using it as pillow, on the other hand... 20:02:34 <Alberth> :) 20:02:58 <planetmaker> g'evening 20:04:26 <Terkhen> hello planetmaker 20:04:37 <Rubidium> it's evening? Oh crap... 20:05:46 <planetmaker> :-D sky is dark at least here ;-) 20:05:57 <andythenorth_> hi planetmaker 20:07:06 <Rubidium> oh, that's the reason why I'm not pushed as hard away from the window as I was a few hours ago :) 20:18:33 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.10.198] has joined #openttd 20:20:21 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbab041.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:06 <planetmaker> hehe. Exactly 20:22:23 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@host81-157-87-106.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 20:29:39 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3819:b5c8:2267:a0ac] has joined #openttd 20:29:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:30:49 *** avdg1 [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:31:01 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:24 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@host81-157-87-106.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:32:35 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:29 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3819:b5c8:2267:a0ac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:41 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3819:b5c8:2267:a0ac] has joined #openttd 20:38:25 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@78.149.63.49] has joined #openttd 20:38:54 <insulfrog> evening all 20:39:00 <Terkhen> hi insulfrog 20:39:13 <davis> hi 20:39:41 <Sacro> hey insulfrog 20:40:39 <insulfrog> got a quick question, has anyone tried to build a 2-X-2 5-way elec rail junction in openttd? 20:41:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:15 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@host81-157-87-106.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:22 <X-2> lol highlight :p 20:41:49 <V453000> insulfrog: roundabout ftw? :) 20:42:20 <Terkhen> :D 20:42:48 <insulfrog> I'm trying to construct one myself and it's a bit of a pain to do 20:42:56 <V453000> but 3ways should be always sufficient I think :) 20:46:09 <Alberth> I think you need priority signalling for a round about 20:47:21 <insulfrog> I already got a temporary roundabout in place while the 'tangle' is being built 20:47:38 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:47:52 * TruePikachu hates X 20:48:06 <V453000> Alberth: what is bad about that :) 20:48:09 <TruePikachu> (as in X22) 20:48:14 <insulfrog> roundabouts are nice but they are always 'join before split' and not always a good option in a very high traffic area 20:48:18 <TruePikachu> *X11 :P 20:48:18 <V453000> but well ... not a good thing :) 20:48:29 <V453000> insulfrog: indeed :) 20:48:30 <Alberth> they tend to deadlock 20:48:33 <V453000> 3ways ftw 20:48:59 <TruePikachu> However, roundabouts don't need to be as complex as standard junctions 20:49:23 * TruePikachu has touched in their use before - they are SLOW 20:50:17 <TruePikachu> So, now, I use roundabouts on freight-only lines; they are slow, but as efficient as needed space-wise. PAX still uses traditional junctions 20:51:16 <TruePikachu> Well, anyway, Windows cannot connect to my Linux box through X11 :( 20:51:42 <TruePikachu> I wanted to see if I'd get some kind of speed increase, but I can't tell now 20:51:46 <insulfrog> I don't use any roundabouts at all as they tend to clog up often, which even on sidelines can have a knock-on effect on the running on the mainline 20:52:25 <TruePikachu> ^^ yes, my FGT roundabouts clogged up often, but they never deadlocked, but that's because I prevented a full roundabout 20:53:20 * TruePikachu wonders how to get X11 set up so that Windows can connect to Linux to play OpenTTD 20:54:11 <Alberth> X11 has no problem with remote connections, mostly Windows does not understand natively that the machine with the monitor and the machine where you work can be different 20:54:34 <TruePikachu> Well, I've gotten XDM going off root on the box... 20:54:50 <TruePikachu> ...and I've gotten Xming here on Windows... 20:55:25 <TruePikachu> I don't understand what's wrong 20:55:28 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has quit [Quit: Good bye] 20:55:57 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has joined #openttd 20:56:01 <Alberth> I have used vnc in the past, but that was about 10 years ago. Haven't touched a Windows machine since. 20:56:42 <TruePikachu> Ummm...you understand I'm connect from Win to Linux to run OTTD on Linux, and not the other way around, right? 20:57:00 <TruePikachu> (OTTD runs on Linux, displays on Win) 20:58:21 <TruePikachu> Well, anyway, I get xming going, have it connect to <Linux IP>, and, after asking me for my pass, it just quits 21:00:07 <Alberth> does the X server allow remote connections? Nowadays, they don't listen at sockets any more by default 21:00:19 <TruePikachu> I don't know, how would I check? 21:00:37 <Noldo> ssh -X ? 21:01:11 <Noldo> or the same with putty and some kind of X for windows 21:01:41 <TruePikachu> I'm using xming as an X server on Windows 21:02:35 <TruePikachu> Under putty, I need to specify an X display location. Would that be pointing to the Linux, or to the Windows? 21:03:22 <TruePikachu> (X11 forwarding) 21:03:39 <TruePikachu> I would assume the Windows box, but I haven't had much luck at all... 21:04:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> X always runs on your local computer 21:04:03 <frosch123> you also need to enable x11 forwarding in the sshd configuration 21:04:23 <Alberth> but you don't need a X server at windows if you display stuff at the unix machine 21:04:36 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9FAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:04:43 <TruePikachu> Eddi|zuHause2 and Alberth: I know 21:04:48 <TruePikachu> frosch123: How would I set that? 21:05:15 <frosch123> /etc/ssh/ssh_config 21:05:22 <TruePikachu> Wait, Eddi|zuHause2 and Alberth: nvm mind 21:06:03 <Alberth> run 'ssh -v -v -v' you get a more verbose output then 21:06:03 <TruePikachu> frosch123: What do I add? 21:06:17 <TruePikachu> Alberth: wouldn't 'ssh -vvv' work? 21:06:24 <frosch123> usually you just need to uncomment a line or change some no to yes 21:06:31 <Alberth> probably that would work too 21:06:46 <TruePikachu> frosch123: OR? I have a commented line with 'yes' 21:07:00 <frosch123> the default is no 21:07:31 <TruePikachu> Okay; entire file minus comments: (pending) 21:07:42 <TruePikachu> ForwardX11 yes 21:07:55 <TruePikachu> # EOF 21:08:12 <TruePikachu> That's it? 21:08:33 <frosch123> maybe 21:08:41 * TruePikachu goes to reboot computer 21:08:46 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Rebooting...] 21:09:00 <frosch123> restarting sshd might be enough :p 21:09:04 *** LaSeandre_ [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:13 *** LaSeandre_ [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:14 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:58 <frosch123> did you modify ssh_config (as i said incorrectly) or sshd_config? :p 21:12:15 <TruePikachu> ssh_config 21:12:50 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 21:12:59 <TruePikachu> Ummm...but I forgot to save changes :P 21:13:04 <TruePikachu> lol 21:13:08 <frosch123> was the wrong file anyway 21:13:32 <frosch123> also you do not need to reboot, it is not windows 21:14:06 <frosch123> just restart the service 21:14:41 <TruePikachu> Ummm...it's readonly 21:14:54 <TruePikachu> frosch123: I'll have to be back later 21:15:04 <TruePikachu> But changing that should be all? 21:15:29 <frosch123> it was enough for my x11 forwarding from gentoo to debian 21:16:05 <frosch123> no idea about windows clients 21:17:00 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:22:28 <GhostlyDeath> The speed of the oil tanker is pathetic 21:22:30 <GhostlyDeath> 15mph 21:22:52 <GhostlyDeath> however, it's all much cheaper than creating a bridge that is 50 tiles long 21:27:57 *** Vitus_ [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has joined #openttd 21:31:44 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:47 *** Vitus is now known as Guest1581 21:32:47 *** Vitus_ is now known as Vitus 21:33:45 *** Guest1581 [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:22 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:43 <GhostlyDeath> This is a bad bug, if you choose Imperial measurements, oil is in liters instead of gallons 21:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> that can't be changed 21:35:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> and it's actually in 1000 litres 21:35:35 <GhostlyDeath> It can internally be kept in liters, but displayed as gallons 21:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, it can't 21:35:49 <GhostlyDeath> why not? 21:36:19 <Rubidium> yes, why not? 21:36:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> because it's (internal units) + (postfix) 21:36:34 <GhostlyDeath> You can't convert a number then pass it to the dialog to be drawn? 21:36:46 <GhostlyDeath> It's most likely already done with mph and km/h 21:36:56 <GhostlyDeath> and with money 21:37:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> mph vs. km/h is different, because they're both totally arbitrary anyway. and money can only be converted in whole factors 21:38:07 <__ln__> or do you mean the postfix contains the three zeros? 21:38:33 <GhostlyDeath> Do you store the contents of a station/vehicle in a string? 21:38:36 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:38:42 <Rubidium> 265 gallons = 1000 liter, right? 21:38:59 <GhostlyDeath> 264 21:39:10 <GhostlyDeath> 264.172052 21:39:24 <frosch123> @calc 264*30 21:39:24 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 7920 21:39:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> if x gallons = 1000 litre, then 1000/x must be a whole number for this to be feasible 21:39:46 <frosch123> isn't playing a game iwth 7920 gallon tankwagons weird? 21:40:16 <Rubidium> @calc 264.172052*4 21:40:16 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 1056.688208 21:40:19 <Rubidium> @calc 264.172052*8 21:40:19 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 2113.376416 21:40:22 <Rubidium> @calc 264.172052*16 21:40:22 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 4226.752832 21:40:25 <Rubidium> @calc 264.172052*32 21:40:25 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 8453.505664 21:40:28 <Rubidium> @calc 264.172052*64 21:40:29 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 16907.011328 21:40:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't think that gets better :p 21:40:46 <GhostlyDeath> I like my gallons 21:41:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> @calc 1000/264 21:41:05 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause2: 3.78787878788 21:41:10 <GhostlyDeath> I prefer my oil tanker to tell me I have 58k gallons of oil 21:41:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> @calc 1000/3 21:41:15 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause2: 333.333333333 21:41:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> @calc 1000/4 21:41:24 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause2: 250 21:41:36 <frosch123> surprise 21:41:40 <GhostlyDeath> If you limit yourself to integer math, you can always (* 100) / 10000 21:41:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> GhostlyDeath: basically you can choose between these two numbers 21:42:19 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Unnamed,%201950-01-07.png <- seems to work 21:42:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> GhostlyDeath: but people WILL complain that they are not accurate enough 21:42:39 <GhostlyDeath> Eddi|zuHause2: add more of a multiplier 21:42:55 <Rubidium> how many m3 is that? 21:43:19 <GhostlyDeath> Rubidium: I like that 21:43:23 <Rubidium> (just to check my calculations are correct) 21:43:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> @calc 23232/264.172052 21:43:29 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause2: 87.9426866851 21:43:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> @calc 23232/264 21:43:41 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause2: 88 21:43:57 <Rubidium> good, then it's correct enough 21:44:34 <GhostlyDeath> 1 liters is 0.264172052 gallons 21:45:08 <Rubidium> hmm... problem 21:45:19 <Rubidium> a imperial gallon is 4.54609 litres 21:45:26 <Rubidium> @calc 1000/4.54609 21:45:26 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 219.969248299 21:45:41 <frosch123> :p 21:46:12 <GhostlyDeath> Rubidium: Which gallong are you using? 21:46:23 <GhostlyDeath> 1 US Gallon is 3.78541178 liters 21:46:27 <GhostlyDeath> -g 21:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it's called "imperial", and not "us" 21:46:45 <Rubidium> I'm using the thing google gave me, which is US 21:46:53 <GhostlyDeath> Google said that to me 21:46:55 <Rubidium> and there's also an imperial gallon 21:47:14 <GhostlyDeath> The US is the only country using Imperial really 21:47:16 <Rubidium> which is basically the UK gallon, which is abandonned as they use litres now 21:47:29 <Prof_Frink> 'cept for milk and beer. 21:48:18 <Prof_Frink> And measuring fuel economy in MPG, despite buying it in litres. 21:48:23 <Rubidium> so we'd need an "imperial (UK)" and "imperial (US)" 21:48:27 <Rubidium> yay... 21:48:56 <Rubidium> which is too much work for me to do now 21:49:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> Rubidium: maybe then HE can also get the distinction between imperial horsepowers and metric horsepowers? :p 21:49:18 <Rubidium> yeah, he'd need that 21:49:25 <Prof_Frink> A metric horse has 5 legs. 21:49:26 <GhostlyDeath> US tons and UK tons 21:49:41 <GhostlyDeath> no, forget tht 21:49:43 <GhostlyDeath> that* 21:49:45 <Rubidium> yes, imperial (uk) would use metric tonnes there 21:49:48 <Prof_Frink> Tons is tons. Tonnes are metric and short tons are silly. 21:54:17 <GhostlyDeath> heh, the smallest town just outgrew it's slightly larger neighbor 21:54:37 <GhostlyDeath> it was 100 vs 60, now it's 99 vs 163 21:54:55 <GhostlyDeath> Can town be vaporized with populations reduced to zero? 21:55:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes 21:56:59 *** LaSeandre_ [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:45 *** LaSeandre [~sean@millsie.net] has joined #openttd 21:59:22 <GhostlyDeath> Can more towns and industries pop up out of nowhere? 22:00:04 <Prof_Frink> No and yes. 22:05:41 <planetmaker> even yes & yes, if MP and 'proper' settings 22:17:01 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 22:19:49 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:42 *** snack2 [~nn@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ffe4c000-43.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 22:21:12 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f7973.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:23 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5e06d02d.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:26:24 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06d02d.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:26:31 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 22:27:00 <KouDy> a bit digging on the forum and found this thread http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=31501 22:27:10 <KouDy> any idea what graphic is used there? 22:29:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> can you be more specific? 22:31:14 <davis> ttrs 22:33:47 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5adc84bd.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:34:10 *** neli [micha@244-233.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:34:18 *** neli [micha@244-233.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has quit [] 22:34:20 *** neli [micha@244-233.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:36:06 <GhostlyDeath> The only reason the small towns still exist 22:36:16 <GhostlyDeath> One has a football field, the other has soccer 22:38:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's the same thing 22:40:04 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06d02d.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:04 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 22:42:49 *** ryx [~paul@f053215122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:43 <Katje> the ai's seem to produce some rather quaint works of comedy 22:51:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:51:54 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, half the posts in the comedy thread are misbehaving AIs :p 22:55:59 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:14 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:33 <insulfrog> finally, got my junction done :) 22:59:12 <insulfrog> i got room now to add more trains to my network :p 23:01:01 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:05:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:58 <insulfrog> Right, that's my game done for today, when I post some screens, I will do if I have time, time for bed now, night all :) 23:08:59 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@78.149.63.49] has quit [Quit: hi] 23:10:19 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has quit [Quit: Good bye] 23:11:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:50 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:24:23 <TruePikachu> Okay, I made the modification to sshd_config 23:24:41 <TruePikachu> Doesn't look like I'm having much luck... 23:25:13 <TruePikachu> Okay, so I'm SSHing there, with PuTTY configured for X tunneling 23:25:21 <TruePikachu> What do I set DISPLAY to? 23:27:09 <TruePikachu> If I set it to this computer (Windows), "<WinIP>:0", I get, from xterm: 23:27:43 <TruePikachu> No protocol specified \ Can't open display 23:28:06 <TruePikachu> localhost fails as well 23:29:53 <TruePikachu> However, localhost has a protocol 23:34:42 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:35:22 <TruePikachu> Uhh...doing a "ps faux" returns partial branch off of "xdm" of "/usr/bin/X :0 -nolisten ..." << -nolisten??? 23:35:44 <TruePikachu> That may be my problem; know how to fix? 23:38:48 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B73FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:32 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-249-199.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:33 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-125-188.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:41:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:44:29 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.15.143] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 23:51:32 <TruePikachu> Okay, PuTTY is indeed getting forwarding correctly 23:52:01 <TruePikachu> DISPLAY = localhost:11.0 (from perspective of Linux box) 23:52:21 <TruePikachu> Lol, typed in xterm and it worked 23:53:53 <TruePikachu> Okay, I got X over here...now why won't OpenTTD transfer? 23:55:55 <TruePikachu> Yes, OTTD is failing miserably 23:57:44 <davis> nice conversation you're having there 23:57:50 <TruePikachu> :P 23:58:17 <TruePikachu> Well, just tried 'starting' kde here on Windows, and all I get is a cursor 23:58:42 <TruePikachu> Wait, I have partial taskbar; what the heck is the problem?! 23:59:00 <davis> yeah that's the huge problems in life :P 23:59:14 <TruePikachu> Lol, thought this would be faster, as the box wouldn't have to deal with all these display commands itself. I was wrong 23:59:37 * TruePikachu is logging into KDE at the moment; taking forever