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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:48:09 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 05:48:14 *** rasco [rasco@tietos.com] has joined #openttd 05:55:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77FE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:55:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B775D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:57:44 <SmatZ> morning 06:15:36 *** banker247 [~banker247@ip72-204-204-144.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:15:42 <banker247> hello 06:21:43 <banker247> are you able to play online if your using the 32bit gfx sets? 06:26:54 <SmatZ> hello 06:27:08 <SmatZ> banker247: are you using the 32bpp patchpack? 06:27:21 <SmatZ> if so, it is likely it won't allow you to join nonpatched servers 06:27:44 <banker247> no not yet 06:27:55 <banker247> i was thinking of getting it installed 06:28:23 <SmatZ> well, try it :) 06:28:25 <banker247> i was going to get the nightly.. doesn't it just update the gfx locally? 06:28:53 <SmatZ> I don't know, there are installation instructions at the thread I guess 06:29:11 <SmatZ> maybe you don't even have to install it, just unpack and run 06:29:46 <banker247> can't figure out whats what ... theres a 32bit pack, then theres something called a nightly script. i dont quite understand yet 06:38:48 *** dnicholls [~chatzilla@host86-160-194-198.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 06:44:47 <Terkhen> good morning 06:46:53 <SmatZ> hello Terkhen 06:51:24 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 06:52:00 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:00:10 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 07:00:10 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07:39 *** Keyboard_Warrior [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:24:01 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:27:07 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5aded8ac.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:32:00 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3FCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:32:19 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.32.143] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:48 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-203.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 07:35:52 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe29dc00-226.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:36:30 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:36:49 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:39:12 *** pugi_ [~pugi@p4FCC2637.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:42:54 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 07:44:07 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3FCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:44:07 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 07:44:17 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 07:57:53 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 08:03:32 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 08:04:24 <planetmaker> moin 08:05:57 <Rubidium> moi 08:08:21 *** Mortomes|TGIF [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has joined #openttd 08:12:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:13:04 *** Mortomes|TGIF is now known as Mortomes|Work 08:30:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21197 /trunk/src/fontcache.cpp: -Fix [FS#4001] (r17794): [OSX] Finding a fallback font failed when compiling for OSX 10.4 as it tried to match also OpenTTD-specific control characters 08:45:03 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 09:29:27 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:39:52 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:48:05 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 09:48:12 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:02:39 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:36:23 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:44:51 <fjb> Moin 10:45:06 <planetmaker> moin fjb 10:45:30 <fjb> Moin planetmaker 10:46:19 <planetmaker> how's life? :-) 10:46:29 <planetmaker> working meanwhile in Wolfsburg? 10:48:47 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 11:01:45 *** banker247 [~banker247@ip72-204-204-144.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:02:32 <planetmaker> hm, that spammer is somewhat one of the best I've seen so far. 11:04:39 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 11:06:06 <fjb> No, that job had some awkward preconditions. 11:06:27 <fjb> I'm still programming my cute microcontrollers. 11:06:40 <fjb> Doesn't give much money but is fun. 11:08:25 <planetmaker> he :-) 11:08:30 <planetmaker> better fun than money 11:08:41 <planetmaker> (if there's at least some money in it, that is) 11:09:12 <planetmaker> what kind of preconditions did they try to put up? 11:10:20 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.104.100] has quit [Quit: Don't follow me] 11:10:40 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.104.100] has joined #openttd 11:32:38 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8f700.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:35:01 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:45 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.104.150] has joined #openttd 11:40:59 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 11:41:13 <IchGuckLive> Hi from Germany ! 11:41:21 <planetmaker> !rcon revision 11:41:36 <IchGuckLive> i made my first conne ctions and owend som money 11:41:40 <planetmaker> hmpf... damn lag here 11:42:02 <IchGuckLive> now can i rebuild some tracks to double lines? 11:43:19 <IchGuckLive> so that 2trains can pass eatchother 11:43:22 <Eddi|zuHause> no glx here? 11:43:37 <IchGuckLive> Eddi|zuHause: German? 11:46:18 <planetmaker> [12:42] <IchGuckLive> now can i rebuild some tracks to double lines? <-- you'll only find out once you try ;-) 11:47:10 <IchGuckLive> planetmaker so i have to build it by myself ? 11:47:31 <IchGuckLive> make 2 signals for the directiions 11:47:40 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@153-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 11:47:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo_] by ChanServ 11:47:55 <planetmaker> I'm not sure what you try, IchGuckLive 11:47:59 <Eddi|zuHause> certainly the game isn't building anything for you by itself... 11:48:11 <IchGuckLive> ok 11:48:31 <V453000> :D 11:48:38 <IchGuckLive> is there a money board so i can see what is the best moneymaker? 11:48:43 <V453000> BuildForMe AI request? :D 11:48:47 <planetmaker> the 'play me' button was just recently rejected ;-) 11:49:11 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.82] has joined #openttd 11:49:29 <IchGuckLive> on Railroad Tycoon it wars just one button to make a line to a double track 11:49:44 <V453000> which is totally different from TTD :) 11:49:56 <IchGuckLive> O.O 11:50:01 <Eddi|zuHause> but on railroad tycoon, the rail building was really irrelevant... 11:50:08 <V453000> ^ 11:50:32 <IchGuckLive> so there are so many notifications about water what do i have to fo with the Well 11:50:45 <V453000> tropic landscape? 11:51:00 <IchGuckLive> i dont now 11:51:03 <V453000> ... 11:51:17 <V453000> is there desert and palm trees? 11:51:32 <IchGuckLive> ok back to the tracks 11:51:41 <IchGuckLive> thats my main problem 11:51:56 <IchGuckLive> i buildet 1Track stations 11:52:12 <IchGuckLive> for more do i rave to dynamite the old one ? 11:52:23 <V453000> not neccessarily 11:52:25 <Eddi|zuHause> no 11:52:30 <V453000> you can just expand it 11:52:34 <IchGuckLive> and build a 3track station 11:52:35 <V453000> an use the old bits 11:52:57 <IchGuckLive> expand is there a wiki for this 11:53:05 <V453000> lol 11:53:07 <V453000> dude 11:53:17 <V453000> just use brain and build whatever you think that works 11:53:21 *** Yexo [~Yexo@153-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:25 <V453000> (I expect you use signals) 11:53:38 <IchGuckLive> not jet 11:53:54 <V453000> you need those 11:54:52 <V453000> it might come more clear after you define which track goes which way, how to expand it 11:54:57 <V453000> since the system is there 11:55:05 <IchGuckLive> ok i will start TTD for the Second time :DD 11:55:12 <V453000> :| 11:55:28 <planetmaker> [12:52] <IchGuckLive> for more do i rave to dynamite the old one ? <-- on a single tile there can be only one track... so for two tracks you need to build on adjacent tiles anyway 11:56:21 <planetmaker> Ammler: you answered a spam bot... 11:56:37 <IchGuckLive> is this alabout cole to the powerplant 11:56:52 <V453000> how is that related 11:57:21 <V453000> btw for good inspiration it is often good to join some servers, so you could see how others do it 11:57:21 <IchGuckLive> in all tutorials there are only cole transports 11:57:42 * planetmaker now waits for V's server suggestion ;-) 11:57:52 <V453000> pm: no :D 11:57:55 <IchGuckLive> so if i transport people it is less efficent 11:58:07 <V453000> depends 11:58:15 *** jamulaner [~jamulaner@p5B0E44BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:58:34 <IchGuckLive> what heppens if there where 2 trains on 1 track ? 11:58:44 <planetmaker> depends 11:59:11 <IchGuckLive> they cant simply pass eatch other 11:59:46 <planetmaker> of course not 12:00:12 <V453000> use the damn signals :) 12:00:27 <IchGuckLive> i try 12:01:08 <IchGuckLive> is there more money itf the train trafels more distance ? 12:01:19 <V453000> yes 12:01:34 <IchGuckLive> :D 12:01:36 <V453000> btw playing for money is pointless 12:01:51 <IchGuckLive> so what to do 12:01:59 <IchGuckLive> yust run the system 12:04:12 <V453000> quite :) 12:04:31 <V453000> in a few years you can afford anything anyway 12:05:06 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:06 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 12:08:23 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 12:12:29 <lugo> can anyone tell which roadset-grf are used here: http://yorkie.southtpe.co.uk/ottd/Chadtown.JPG ? 12:12:35 <lugo> can't seem to find it.. 12:13:01 <V453000> TTRS 12:13:08 <V453000> total town replacement set roads 12:14:18 <lugo> oh there's a grf for just the ttrs-roads? 12:14:39 <planetmaker> sure, V453000 ? 12:14:40 <V453000> no 12:14:48 <V453000> these roads are included in the TTRS 12:14:56 <lugo> he seems to have a mix of TaI and TTRS :D 12:15:04 <V453000> you cant use the roads without the buildingg but you can use TTRS without the roads :P 12:15:09 <IchGuckLive> how many wagons for a 3platform? 12:15:19 <IchGuckLive> cole 12:15:22 <V453000> to fill the platform?.... 12:15:23 <V453000> ... 12:15:24 <planetmaker> hm, yes 12:15:33 <IchGuckLive> V453000: yes 12:15:35 <planetmaker> definitely ttrs 12:15:42 <V453000> im sure :p 12:15:45 <planetmaker> modern road style :-) 12:15:52 <planetmaker> I always only remember the old style 12:15:54 <V453000> 1980+ :) 12:16:00 <IchGuckLive> no 12:16:02 <IchGuckLive> 1950 12:17:02 <V453000> it must show "6" in the depot 12:17:21 <V453000> it can be less but the larger trains cant fit into the station 12:17:25 <V453000> it should be obvious 12:17:59 <IchGuckLive> does the Staison show how many wagons fit to it 12:18:04 <planetmaker> ^ 12:18:05 <planetmaker> had to check with swedish rails :-) 12:18:05 <planetmaker> the level crossing sprites there gave it away :-P 12:18:44 <V453000> swedish rails work well with all road sets iirc 12:18:52 <planetmaker> yes 12:18:54 <V453000> (as they should :P) 12:19:00 <planetmaker> if not, please tell me :-) 12:19:19 <planetmaker> unless you play TTDPatch. Then it only works with TTD, OpenGFX and TTRS 12:19:39 <V453000> I normally dont :P 12:19:45 <IchGuckLive> ok i run out of mony got to find the cheeds first 12:20:19 <V453000> just play the game, most of the things should be totally intuitive 12:21:31 * lugo wonders if anyone has had problems with roadset-graphics changing through time in multiplayer games 12:21:59 <V453000> I did :) 12:21:59 <lugo> in my case we were using NARoads, but graphics didn't change after 1980.. 12:22:12 <V453000> NA roads change in 1950 iirc 12:22:17 <V453000> TTRS in 1980 12:22:20 <lugo> ok 12:22:28 <V453000> although they change only when you reload the savegame 12:22:31 <V453000> if it is in MP 12:22:32 <lugo> well not even 30 years late, it was changing ;) 12:23:31 <lugo> V453000, when loading the save game as a single player game, graphics get updated 12:23:44 <V453000> yes, thats the same 12:24:01 <V453000> but when you just re/join the server, they do not 12:24:17 <IchGuckLive> boh ej the messages are realy not helpfull 12:24:24 <IchGuckLive> now i got 5 trains running 12:24:25 <lugo> yep i mean, loading the savegame as a host won't update the graphics 12:24:44 <V453000> restarting the server should 12:24:52 <V453000> or just reloading the savegame 12:25:07 <V453000> for example, play until 1981 with TTRS, save game, load it again 12:25:21 <IchGuckLive> 6cole wagon does not fit the 3track 12:25:22 *** jamulaner [~jamulaner@p5B0E44BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Verlassend] 12:25:26 <V453000> and unless you have it set by parameters to keep only pre-1980 roadss, it should work 12:25:56 <V453000> IchGuckLive: you seriously cant figure that out or are you just asking "cause" ? 12:26:23 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 12:26:38 <lugo> IchGuckLive, the whole train has to be 6 units long, not the coal wagons 12:28:31 <IchGuckLive> thanks 12:28:34 <George> Hi. Could someone tell me about FS#2079. Is it a difficult task to code or it would eat much CPU? 12:29:15 <IchGuckLive> so at the train menue do i have to load at start or does it load automatic just say start middle and end 12:31:21 <IchGuckLive> it just not works the way i'am thinking 12:31:53 <IchGuckLive> i got one track want to let 2 trains running from one depo one to the left one to the right 12:32:18 <IchGuckLive> ok the trains is leaving if the track is clear 12:40:26 <fjb> planetmaker: Some money, but not much. 12:42:15 <fjb> planetmaker: The precondition for the other job were that I had to go to a job center to be registred unemployed. And I would have to stay unemployed long enough to frustrate the job center so that they will pay the bigest part of my sallary when I get a job. 12:42:47 <fjb> planetmaker: And then that company would decide if they are still interested in hiring me. 12:43:14 <planetmaker> that sounds VERY fishy and anti-social 12:43:57 <planetmaker> basically abusing the social security systems for their bloody profits... :S 12:43:58 <fjb> I was told by the job center that that is not really unusual nowadays. 12:44:12 <planetmaker> That doesn't make it better... :S 12:44:57 <fjb> And if I got that job I would have to spend a large part of my free time unpayd at the company to learn new stuff. 12:46:30 <fjb> Usual working hours would be at night and weekends. 12:46:45 <planetmaker> :-( 12:46:54 <planetmaker> Not a good prospect really... 12:47:08 <fjb> Not really. 12:50:31 <IchGuckLive> is there a good tutorial about signals? 12:50:41 <fjb> I don't mind working at some weekends if the job is fun. We had the delivery of the prototype of our microcontroller thing today. So I had to work a lot yesterday. But it was kind of fun and very exiting. 12:52:08 <fjb> IchGuckLive: 1. Use only path signals. 2. build signals only at places where a waiting train would not block anything important. 3. be happy. 12:52:51 <planetmaker> fjb: As long as it's exciting and fun :-) 12:53:45 <fjb> planetmaker: It is and a have some cool ideas for the next release. 12:54:22 <planetmaker> :-) 12:55:29 <fjb> That thing has 64k RAM, 48MHz and ethernet. :) 12:57:23 <IchGuckLive> can i turn the Depo to the other Direktion ? 12:57:41 <IchGuckLive> the bus is circeling in the depo 12:58:23 <fjb> Sell the bus, blow up the depot. Build a new depot facing another direction, build a new bus. 12:58:34 <IchGuckLive> thanks 13:00:39 <planetmaker> IchGuckLive: you should really walk throught the tutorial in our wiki 13:01:12 <fjb> Funniest part of that procedure is blowing up the depot. 13:01:42 <IchGuckLive> planetmaker: i guess thats what im doing 13:02:02 <IchGuckLive> i just klickt wriong and now stock it does not blow up 13:04:13 <IchGuckLive> ther is just no bus in the list its in the depo but not in the list to blow up 13:04:19 <IchGuckLive> to sell 13:11:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:ed30:43fd:47df:d84a] has joined #openttd 13:11:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:12:01 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8823.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:12:49 <IchGuckLive> first bus going to 2 citys ! 13:12:59 <__ln___> *cities 13:16:46 <IchGuckLive> the bus is circeling in a square and does not move out to the next depo 13:17:57 <__ln___> *circling, *depot 13:18:05 <IchGuckLive> now he had an exident 13:18:37 <IchGuckLive> i made a bus from one city to a other and back to the depo 13:18:37 <lugo> *exodus ;) 13:19:13 <IchGuckLive> but now it is circeling the streets from the other city 13:19:32 <IchGuckLive> and not coming back 13:20:12 <IchGuckLive> there is another bus in the first city 13:21:21 <__ln___> IchGuckLive: English only 13:24:05 <IchGuckLive> German 13:25:26 <IchGuckLive> it does not leave the Squar route 13:27:42 <IchGuckLive> cant i stop one of the 2 buses of the depo ? 13:28:20 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:31:42 <IchGuckLive> next bus crash 13:31:57 <IchGuckLive> it is not coming out of its circle tour 13:32:50 <IchGuckLive> i did it pass the next contruct 13:34:40 <IchGuckLive> ok till tomorrow 3Hr to get the system run and 2 busses moving + 4trains 13:35:12 <IchGuckLive> By O.o 13:35:17 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100423140709]] 13:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf was he saying!?! 13:48:02 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: translate it literally to German? 14:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: doesn't make a lot of sense either... 14:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> for example: did he really mean "depot" or actually "bus station"? 14:01:32 * Rubidium fears the chance that the answer to that question is "no" is considerable 14:12:45 <Belugas> hello 14:27:00 <planetmaker> salut Belugas 14:28:02 <Belugas> hello you sir :) 14:30:27 *** Joni_ [~Joni-@80.220.0.41] has joined #openttd 14:30:27 *** Joni- [~Joni-@80.220.0.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:10 <Eddi|zuHause> http://wearefuntastic.net/imageserver/_zaumbierstael/img/ganzearbeietetet.jpg 14:40:01 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:16 *** pyth [~dirkjan@D4B24892.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 14:42:12 <Eddi|zuHause> (Text says: "Sprayers overpainted a door so it looked like a window, and the window next to it, so it looked like doors. it looked so realistic that the driver had to put up "door unusable" signs" 14:43:49 <SpComb> clever 14:43:56 <SpComb> probably students 14:45:53 <glx> well done 15:02:36 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:09:53 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.32.143] has joined #openttd 15:24:42 <fjb> Moin Belugas 15:33:42 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:44 <Belugas> hello fjb 15:34:01 <fjb> :-) 15:37:11 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 15:52:06 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f726bf1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:58:42 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@92-249-141-146.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 16:04:14 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: .] 16:06:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:17 *** Samu [Samu@7.99.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 16:08:25 <Eddi|zuHause> the only thing left puzzling me in this file format is a 4-byte field that appears to be always 1 16:10:13 <SmatZ> magic bytes with no meaning? 16:11:36 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8823.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:05 *** pyth [~dirkjan@D4B24892.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: pyth] 16:14:11 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:14:43 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:23:20 * Samu slaps Samu around a bit with a large trout 16:24:46 *** saronpas_ [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 16:25:07 *** AveiMil [~AveiMil@232.81-166-168.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 16:27:07 *** Prisk1 is now known as Kirpsi 16:30:16 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:19 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: i'm sure they have a meaning, but i can't derive it from being always 1 16:32:12 <planetmaker> file format version? 16:42:35 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:43:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21198 /trunk/src/ (12 files): -Fix: don't call variables properties in debug messages 16:45:57 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.32.143] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:55 <norbert79> Samu: Sounds very mazochist like :D 17:10:32 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-170-185.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 17:12:38 *** saronpas_ [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:56 <fjb> And infantile. 17:28:41 <Belugas> gaga googoo 17:34:16 <Samu> ? 17:35:26 <Samu> why am I infantile? 17:36:22 <Samu> pff, look who's talking, playing a video game 17:38:21 *** staN [4fd85ab6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:39:02 <staN> hi 17:39:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcf38.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:58 <planetmaker> hi staN 17:40:03 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5aded8ac.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:40:08 <planetmaker> quak frosch123 17:41:15 <frosch123> moin 17:42:58 <staN> i got a question concerning station-build-gui_v7.0-r21062.patch, i was able to apply ver. 6.3.1 of that patch, but now compiling fails because a file named station_type_matrix.h is missing 17:43:38 <staN> the patch author wrote something about moving statin matrix code to a seperate file in this thread http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=41222&start=140 17:44:06 <staN> however that file doesn't seemed to be created 17:44:24 <staN> has anyone had similar problems? :) 17:45:16 <fjb> Quak frosch123 17:46:27 <glx> staN: he probably forgot to svn add the file 17:46:37 <glx> so it's not in the patch 17:46:58 *** fjb is now known as Guest980 17:46:59 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFEB77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:47:56 <staN> glx: is there a chance one can find his branch or something? :D 17:48:27 <glx> just wait for an fixed diff 17:49:37 <glx> I said it in the thread 17:50:52 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 17:52:22 <glx> strange nobody noticed it in 16 days ;) 17:52:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db80243.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:53:01 <planetmaker> glx: it's a well-tested patch ;-) 17:54:03 *** Guest980 [~frank@p5DDFC5FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:26 *** pyth [~dirkjan@82-171-22-51.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:33 <Belugas> lol 17:58:38 <staN> and it's a logic addition i hope :D 18:02:28 <staN> and 6.3.1 worked like a charm [/ad] 18:02:37 <staN> so thanks for helping, bye 18:03:31 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-170-185.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:54 <Samu> 2) Known bugs in the this stable release - that's a typo 18:05:31 <glx> staN: he works with hg and provide tortoiseSVN compatible patches, but the .tar patch collections is correct (I just did a quick look and the new file is present) 18:07:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-166-113.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 18:07:43 *** staN [4fd85ab6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:08:19 <Ammler> he should use devzone then :-) 18:08:32 <Rubidium> Ammler: nah, that's too public :) 18:08:59 <planetmaker> well, for a single patch that's over-doing it 18:09:16 <planetmaker> unless you plan to make a long-term patch queue out of it 18:09:28 <Ammler> well, glx said it so 18:09:40 <planetmaker> said what? 18:09:49 <Ammler> that it is a mq 18:10:13 <planetmaker> yes. But not every mq warrants really creating a separate global repository... does it? 18:10:25 <Ammler> does that matter? 18:10:38 <planetmaker> I mean... I create and delete mqs on a weekly basis ;-) 18:10:39 <Ammler> it would at least make a correct svn patch 18:10:49 * planetmaker wouldn't :-P 18:11:01 <Ammler> station gui is the most missing patch in trunk, imo 18:11:09 <planetmaker> yes 18:11:27 <Ammler> the devzone _does_ make correct svn patches, if the mq works 18:11:32 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db80243.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:01 <planetmaker> for review the svn format is not needed 18:14:25 <Samu> I have a suggestion for windows installer, when it's creating shortcuts 18:14:40 <Samu> some documentation isn't linked 18:14:47 <Samu> like how to setup a server 18:14:54 <Samu> openttd line parameters 18:15:54 <glx> command line parameters are in "openttd -h" 18:16:02 * planetmaker also has a suggestion for that: it seems to install the 3rd-party files not into the globally shared data folder but the global programme folder 18:16:58 <planetmaker> C:\Program Files\OpenTTD\data\/ <-- seems wrong 18:17:40 <Samu> C:\Programas\OpenTTD\docs - these text files here should be added to the start menu OpenTTD folder as shortcuts, just saying 18:18:30 <planetmaker> Samu: what about creating a 'bug' report / feature request about that? 18:18:37 <planetmaker> then it won't be forgotten 18:18:57 <glx> planetmaker: well it's in $INSTDIR :) 18:19:11 <planetmaker> well :-) 18:19:26 <planetmaker> But then $INSTDIR is not according to our directory guidelines 18:19:34 <planetmaker> it should be different for the different parts 18:19:53 <glx> and finding the global data dir may be fun to do ;) 18:20:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:22:06 <andythenorth> evilning 18:22:20 <planetmaker> hello andy 18:29:42 <Belugas> badday,dyan the south 18:34:15 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8823.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:36:43 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:36:53 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:38:16 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@92-249-141-146.pool.digikabel.hu] has left #openttd [] 18:39:13 * Belugas just closed debian install how to 18:39:26 <Belugas> too many words, too many unanswered questions 18:39:37 <glx> just start the install :) 18:39:38 <Belugas> not enough "pick this and do that" 18:39:52 <Belugas> That's the problem... don't know what to pick :( 18:40:08 <Belugas> in fact, don't even know whwere is the freaking installer :S 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r21199 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belarusian - 4 changes by KorneySan 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 4 changes by VoyagerOne 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 4 changes by IPG 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: norwegian_bokmal - 4 changes by mantaray 18:44:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: russian - 4 changes by Lone_Wolf 18:45:39 <Samu> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4231 18:45:46 <Samu> do you agree with me? 18:47:00 <Belugas> and yopu think that notepad is a nice piece of work? 18:47:34 <frosch123> Samu: notepad is the only "editor" on earth i have ever heard of, which cannot display those files properly 18:49:47 <Belugas> in fact, funny enough, even "edit" can correctly display the same file :) 18:50:05 <Belugas> and i'm alking about the good old "edit" in command prompt ;) 18:52:03 <SmatZ> "good" :p 18:52:51 <frosch123> i am not sure whether the computer of apollo 11 had a texteditor, but if it had it could process those files 18:53:25 <glx> weird I though we used unix2dos 18:53:32 <SmatZ> :) 18:53:54 <frosch123> yeah, it is also in Makefile.bundle :) 18:53:57 <glx> in the zip there's no problem 18:54:26 <glx> nsismake doesn't get files for bundle 18:55:08 <glx> s/for/from/ 18:55:13 *** asnoehu [~thok@524B7349.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:19 *** asnoehu [~thok@524B7349.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:59:27 <Samu> the other text files are displaying correctly 19:05:36 <Samu> I think i found the problem 19:05:57 <Samu> that .txt is in ANSI format, all others are in UTF-8 19:07:12 <Samu> nope 19:07:20 <Samu> known-bugs.txt is ANSI too 19:07:24 <Samu> but it's fine 19:09:06 <Samu> sorry 19:10:19 <Rubidium> all files are UTF-8 19:10:56 <Samu> notepad lies then 19:10:57 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 19:12:25 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-166-113.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:38 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:20:44 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 19:21:43 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:22:00 * andythenorth finds a rl example to base the FIRS forge on http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=48365 19:22:10 <Samu> wow, for once I feel I can be helpful 19:22:19 <Samu> I fixed the txt file 19:22:25 <Samu> where can I send the file? 19:25:47 <Samu> it displays fine both in DOS Edit and in notepad 19:26:00 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:57 <Belugas> ho boy... 19:27:51 <Belugas> "Disconnect network AFTER request is sent to Global Payment and BEFORE Response is received by thge cash register" 19:28:16 <Belugas> Do you have ANY IDEA how little time this actualyl represents???? 19:29:09 <__ln___> 2.4 ms 19:39:02 <Samu> question; are the .example files simple text files? 19:39:28 <Samu> they're not displaying fine in notepad either, want me to fix them? 19:40:06 <Samu> or is the paragraph a special character? 19:40:12 <Belugas> don't bother, Samu. I thuink someone is trying to make the convesion automatic right from the construction on the install 19:40:26 <Samu> ok 19:41:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:42:31 <AveiMil> http://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Construction#In_game_placement_of_trees 19:42:52 <AveiMil> only in rain forests? meaning only where clusters of trees already are? 19:43:04 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@217.194.71.146] has joined #openttd 19:43:11 <Zuu> Good evening 19:43:28 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 19:44:24 <IchGuckLive> Hi all all trains are at the red signals what can i do ? http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/151110204433_openttd.png 19:45:12 <IchGuckLive> there is for me at the moment no posible way to understand how these signals work 19:45:33 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d82337a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:39 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:45:46 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 19:45:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:46:08 *** Zuu_ [~chatzilla@212.28.207.194] has joined #openttd 19:47:43 <Belugas> not fast enough :S 19:47:44 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.32.143] has joined #openttd 19:48:01 * Belugas installs a guillotin over his network cable 19:48:29 <planetmaker> hi Zuu 19:49:30 <IchGuckLive> there are so smale pictures on the wiki its imposible to tell witch signal type it is 19:49:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:35 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 19:49:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:49:47 <andythenorth> belugas it's easy 19:49:55 <Samu> zoom 19:49:57 <andythenorth> just do the measurement after the packets have passed :P 19:49:58 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment 19:50:08 <__ln___> are those one-way signals? 19:50:43 <IchGuckLive> i do not now i used the defauld 19:51:17 <IchGuckLive> can i get a info of the placed signel type 19:51:30 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@217.194.71.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:35 *** Zuu_ is now known as Zuu 19:52:07 *** Zuu is now known as Guest989 19:52:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21200 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/fullscreen.mm: -Fix: [OSX] Don't let the mouse cursor jump when switching to full screen mode 19:53:00 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:31 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 19:53:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 19:53:32 <IchGuckLive> train crashed 19:53:46 <Belugas> GOT IT!!!! 19:53:51 <IchGuckLive> tow trains colided 19:54:05 <IchGuckLive> now clue to this sgnaling 19:54:22 <__ln___> planetmaker: btw, i think a lot of fullscreen-related bugs on OSX could be solved by using the same quartz thing for drawing that is used for windowed mode. 19:54:33 <Belugas> not that easy, andy... i';ve got to swipe the card, chhose account, enter pin, ckick on network deactvate as soon as i see a little activity 19:54:44 <planetmaker> __ln___: maybe 19:55:02 <IchGuckLive> best for beginning is 1 train per track no junction i guess 19:55:16 <andythenorth> Belugas: you need to entangle some quantum pairs 19:55:51 <andythenorth> there's probably a wizard for that in your IDE :P 19:56:21 <Belugas> i wish i was still in my ide :( 19:56:35 <Belugas> my part of the code does not handle communications 19:56:50 <Belugas> that's the other guy's responsability 19:58:11 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f726bf1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:04:18 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:31 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 20:10:58 <IchGuckLive> i need a answer wy is the rain first making a full round tripp without carrying a load 20:11:30 <IchGuckLive> out of the depo then beginn at the loadside and end at the deliver 20:11:42 <__ln___> because there is nothing at the station the first time 20:11:47 <SpComb> use a Full Load order 20:12:19 <IchGuckLive> SpComb there are 3 orders in the list it works only one 20:12:33 <IchGuckLive> i tryd all 20:13:01 <__ln___> *tried 20:14:29 *** Guest989 is now known as Zuu 20:15:55 <IchGuckLive> now it rund to the unload station first and then to the load 20:16:02 <IchGuckLive> what a mess 20:16:41 * Belugas downloads debian live iso 20:16:42 <IchGuckLive> in the desserd first is to get water to the Citys ? 20:16:58 * Rubidium wonders why Belugas wants to use Debian :) 20:17:05 <IchGuckLive> Belugas: ubuntu is also in second stage 20:17:44 <IchGuckLive> ok i got to go By trying tomorrow again to get rit of the signal cahos 20:17:53 *** Samu [Samu@7.99.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [] 20:18:22 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f726bf1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:18:47 * planetmaker would like to see some gramar chaos getting rid of ;-) 20:19:05 <IchGuckLive> i try to find a picture big wher it says what signal to go whewre on a fore track station 20:19:18 <IchGuckLive> BY 20:19:23 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100423140709]] 20:19:48 <Belugas> Rubidium : because ubuntu nor kubuntu nor whatevr buntu can be loaded on my laptop 20:20:06 <Belugas> ACer Travelmate 4000 something 20:20:29 <Belugas> glx told me that debian might be able to do the job 20:28:30 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@212.28.207.194] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 20:28:33 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 20:31:36 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:36 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-17-111.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:43:13 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 20:47:18 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 20:51:25 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:56:57 <AveiMil> How do I put a license in my NewGRF? 20:59:50 <AveiMil> Bananas: The pack didn't contain a custom license. 20:59:52 <AveiMil> :( 21:00:32 <frosch123> read the terms of usage, they explain that 21:02:31 <AveiMil> I put a license.txt in the asme folder as my NewGRF 21:02:33 <AveiMil> meh? 21:03:17 <frosch123> then create a zip, or tar or whatever ofit 21:04:06 <AveiMil> ah there we go 21:06:55 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:07:22 <AveiMil> In the game, it says at the top of my mod, "this is a replacement for an existing NewGRF" 21:07:34 <AveiMil> what have I done for that to show? 21:07:59 <frosch123> you have already a grf with the same grfid installed, but the md5sum is different 21:08:09 *** pyth [~dirkjan@82-171-22-51.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: pyth] 21:08:23 <AveiMil> oh right 21:08:25 <AveiMil> :) 21:11:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:17:08 *** keoz [~keikoz@418pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #openttd 21:21:07 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-166-113.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 21:23:33 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:24:24 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:16 <AveiMil> Version 0.2 is out of PIGM! 21:37:17 <AveiMil> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=51112&p=913520#p913520 21:37:19 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-166-113.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:33 <AveiMil> Desperatly need of test users, none so far has shown any intrest :( 21:40:50 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-203.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:05 <SmatZ> AveiMil: I think the download counter doesn't work 21:42:20 <SmatZ> hmm it does 21:42:22 <SmatZ> :p 21:42:27 <Belugas> hint: attract them :) pick a very cool topic in suggestion, tell them the grf implements it and wait the reactions ^_^ 21:42:35 <SmatZ> so it is "image impressions" counter what doesn't work 21:42:48 <Belugas> or just tell them it adds total realims :P 21:44:15 <AveiMil> hahaha, that's trickery 21:44:20 <AveiMil> since I have no respect for realism 21:44:49 <AveiMil> can I post about it on the general forum to help gather testers? 21:45:12 <planetmaker> people will read it in the grf release subforum, too 21:45:45 <planetmaker> (assuming they read it like I do) 21:46:15 <AveiMil> doubt casual players goes to those forusm 21:46:59 <planetmaker> well. But that's the purpose of the grf release forum: Present your NewGRF :-) 21:47:12 <Hirundo> planetmaker: How long, till the OSX port is officially supported again? ;) 21:47:19 <AveiMil> what's the definition of 'release'? hehe 21:47:25 <AveiMil> I'm more in dev stage 21:47:55 <planetmaker> Hirundo: as usual... exactly that long as it takes to decide to officially support it again :-) 21:48:10 <Belugas> AveiMil, put your annucememt in your signature line 21:48:16 <Belugas> and post and post and post :) 21:48:24 *** Samu [Samu@7.99.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:48:25 <AveiMil> ok, I'll start posting "1st" 21:48:27 <AveiMil> :D 21:48:32 <Samu> hi again 21:48:49 <planetmaker> AveiMil: if you put a version on bananas, it could also warrant a posting in your grf's thread in the newgrf releases forum 21:49:09 <AveiMil> yeah 0.2 is on bananas now 21:49:21 <planetmaker> that's the way I do. New version: then announce it on the release thread and put it on bananas 21:49:28 <AveiMil> so just a new thread in the newgrf releases forum as an announcement eh? 21:49:28 <Samu> TTD end game testing is almost there 21:49:39 <Samu> year 2025 right now 21:49:56 <planetmaker> and indeed. If you look at my signature, it's 70% advertizement ;-) 21:50:27 <planetmaker> Just mind that my signature could already be considered over-sized... 21:51:12 <AveiMil> mm 21:51:15 <AveiMil> Samu, what are you testing? 21:52:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.167.249] has joined #openttd 21:52:51 <AveiMil> downloaded 11 times already 21:52:52 <AveiMil> heh 21:53:01 <Samu> the final year for TTD 21:53:13 <AveiMil> the final year? 21:53:20 <Samu> yeah 21:53:23 <AveiMil> meaning? 21:53:35 <Samu> newspaper vs highscore chart 21:53:51 <AveiMil> ehmmmkay 21:54:10 <Samu> the date on the newspaper in OTTD says 2050, but highscores say 2051 21:54:26 <Samu> the highscores in TTD say 2050, now I'm testing newspaper 21:54:34 <AveiMil> exciting 21:54:38 <AveiMil> Samu, do you like testing things? 21:55:09 <Samu> yes 21:55:24 <Prof_Frink> Samu: You would be really annoyed if someone now suggested TTDPatch and cht:year, wouldn't you. 21:55:29 <Samu> well, it depends on what I test 21:55:31 <AveiMil> Becasue I need a lot of help testing my new balance mod, interrested? 21:55:44 <AveiMil> testing by playing 21:55:52 <AveiMil> (i.e. having fun) 21:56:09 <Samu> sure, but I'm a bit biased 21:56:18 <Samu> I hate trains for example 21:56:37 <AveiMil> ah, well I aim to make all modes of transportation equally viable 21:56:41 <AveiMil> so that's fine 21:56:57 <AveiMil> are you connected with your mobile atm? 21:57:08 <Samu> yes 21:57:17 <AveiMil> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=51112 <- thread with info, but there's perhaps 1 megabyte of data 21:57:32 <AveiMil> and if I remember correctly that's like 549 thousand pounds for you 21:58:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.162.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:25 <AveiMil> but the Mod is available for download in the in-game menu (bananas) check online content, AveiMil's PIGM 21:58:37 <AveiMil> it makes the game much harder 21:58:47 <Samu> i'm checking the Banana 21:59:19 <AveiMil> but it is preferable if you play with the game settings defined in that thread as it makes comparing and balancing easier 21:59:29 <Samu> it's new 21:59:37 <Samu> AveiMil's PIGM 2,00 KiB 21:59:40 <Samu> 2,99 22:00:03 <AveiMil> yes 22:00:40 <AveiMil> at this stage the testing mechanism is to play from 1950 to 1975 22:00:47 <AveiMil> and try to get a high company value as possible 22:01:18 <AveiMil> I managed 2.5 million using only road vehicles and ships 22:03:18 <Samu> i got the config file 22:03:30 <Samu> gigantic resolution 22:03:33 <Samu> :) 22:04:49 <Samu> who will be the competitor? 22:04:54 <Samu> no AI's 22:04:58 <Samu> I just have to survive? 22:05:04 <AveiMil> you "compete" against me 22:05:11 <AveiMil> in that you try to do better than me by 1975 22:05:18 <AveiMil> yes 22:05:26 <AveiMil> fool around first in a game, because base costs are higher 22:05:33 <AveiMil> you might bankrupt your self if your not careful :) 22:05:57 <AveiMil> unfortunatly AI's just seem to die with my mod 22:06:06 <AveiMil> they can't handle the increased costs 22:06:13 <Samu> terraforming, I see a lot of ppl against terraforming 22:06:14 <AveiMil> (only ones that go road vehicles apperantly) 22:06:28 <AveiMil> terraforming is still viable 22:06:30 <Samu> looking at your prices 22:06:33 <AveiMil> but fairly expensive 22:06:58 <Samu> just add an option to prevent terraforming at all 22:07:16 <AveiMil> I want terraforming in the game 22:07:22 <AveiMil> I just don't want it to be trivial 22:07:39 <AveiMil> in my last game I built a 19 tile road vehicle tunnnel 22:07:43 <AveiMil> it cost me 100K (pounds) 22:07:44 <AveiMil> :P 22:08:01 <AveiMil> to terraform that would have been like 200-300K 22:08:41 <Samu> advanced settings>construction>terraforming method: none, single click, drag and drop 22:09:08 <Samu> ok starting a new game 22:09:37 <AveiMil> cool :) 22:16:41 <Samu> 1 ship and 3 docks 65k 22:16:42 <Samu> heh 22:17:08 <AveiMil> yup 22:17:14 <AveiMil> but note ships carry a lot more 22:17:46 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe29dc00-226.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:17:54 <Samu> bad idea imo, but let's see 22:18:02 <AveiMil> don't know if you know this or not, but it's important to keep the transported rating (%) above 67 22:18:05 <AveiMil> for the industries 22:18:09 <AveiMil> your transporting from 22:18:16 <AveiMil> ships can be bad at taht since they're gone for so long 22:18:23 <AveiMil> where I can I used road vehicles 22:18:31 <AveiMil> to shuttle cargo down to the docks continously 22:19:01 <AveiMil> if transported % drops too much throughout a year the production will start to decrease as per game mechanics 22:25:41 *** zodttd_work [~zodttd@pool-72-91-154-40.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:55 <Samu> wow, a rail piece 800 £ 22:28:52 <Samu> out of money 22:33:35 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-69.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:33:57 <Samu> AveiMil - a bit too expensive to lay a railroad 22:35:41 <AveiMil> plan more carefully 22:36:15 <AveiMil> trains can still generate a lot of income 22:36:21 <AveiMil> but it's not cheap to lay down railway 22:36:35 <AveiMil> in the start you might have to pick your transport route carefully 22:36:41 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8823.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:49 <AveiMil> which is why the start depends on the map 22:36:58 <AveiMil> one random generated map might favour a ship start 22:37:07 <AveiMil> another airplanes if you wait for subsidies 22:37:11 <AveiMil> or another road vehicles 22:37:15 <AveiMil> or a combination 22:38:19 <Samu> this map favours ships 22:38:25 <Samu> but now i got no money 22:38:59 <AveiMil> no worries, start a new game :P 22:39:14 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f726bf1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:40:08 <Samu> my only ship is saving me 22:40:21 <Samu> using your config file 22:40:23 <AveiMil> hehe 22:40:39 <AveiMil> goodie 22:40:45 <Samu> made some coal trucks, they profit 600 a year, heh... 22:40:51 <AveiMil> doing transfer? 22:41:00 <AveiMil> yeah, they're not important, as long as they break even it's fine 22:41:16 <Samu> no, no transfer 22:41:18 <AveiMil> 380 tonnes of coal deliver however, can bank you 25K a trip 22:41:32 <AveiMil> here's a good tip then: find 2 coal mines near by 22:41:36 <Samu> no, it's a passenger 22:41:38 <Samu> ship 22:41:40 <AveiMil> ah 22:41:40 <AveiMil> ok 22:41:43 <AveiMil> :) 22:41:45 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:41:54 <AveiMil> how is its yearly profit? 22:42:04 <AveiMil> I havent tested them much after I increased their passanger load 22:43:23 <Samu> 11599 last year 22:43:29 <Samu> goes to 3 docks 22:43:59 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Quit: Forlater kanalen] 22:44:04 <AveiMil> not bad 22:44:06 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 22:44:45 <AveiMil> not great either considering it costs nearly 40K 22:45:19 <AveiMil> running cost might be a bit high for it 22:45:42 <AveiMil> but passenger ferry's do really well if you find coastal cities with subsidies 22:46:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcf38.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:15 <Samu> the ship lasts for 30 years, I don't have to worry :) 22:49:59 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.82] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:50:27 <AveiMil> hehe 22:50:29 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.82] has joined #openttd 22:51:04 *** Eddi|nichZuHause [~EddinichZ@92.117.87.49] has joined #openttd 22:51:21 <Eddi|nichZuHause> morning-ish 22:52:11 *** saronpasu [~saronpasu@catv075-208.lan-do.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 22:53:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 22:54:54 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 22:55:18 <AveiMil> morning? aren't you in germany? :) 22:57:26 <planetmaker> at least not at home 22:58:32 <Eddi|nichZuHause> people here always say "morning" after they came to work :p 22:59:35 <Samu> just bought the engine, now I need a carriage 22:59:41 <Samu> lol, I'm going bankrupt 23:00:09 <AveiMil> that's great news 23:00:09 <AveiMil> :D 23:00:17 <planetmaker> good night 23:00:19 <Eddi|nichZuHause> congratulations. it is extremely difficult in this game to actually go bankrupt :p 23:00:21 <AveiMil> gn 23:00:33 <Samu> you mean aveimil's game 23:00:35 <AveiMil> Eddi|nichZuHause, not with http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=51112 23:00:47 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:51 <Samu> there's a ovni flying 23:00:54 <Samu> oh, UFO in english 23:01:30 <Eddi|nichZuHause> UFO is german :p 23:03:50 <Samu> road vehicle destroyed in UFO collision 23:04:26 <Samu> funny, the explosion effect appeared twice 23:04:55 <AveiMil> yeah that's the funny part :) 23:05:21 <AveiMil> not the part where a UFO 'accidentially' hovers straight over a truck only to fall right down upon it 23:05:22 <AveiMil> :D 23:10:06 <Eddi|nichZuHause> i gets attracted by the energy-signature of the truck, and takes it as landing signal. 23:11:43 <AveiMil> yup makes sense, travelled millions of miles accross the vastness of space to confuse a the Uhl Coal Truck for a landing strip 23:15:01 <Prof_Frink> I once managed to save a truck from the killer UFO 23:15:54 <Eddi|nichZuHause> it got overrun by a train first? :p 23:16:24 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d82337a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:41 <Prof_Frink> Nope, parked it in the depot just as the UFO locked on. 23:17:08 <Prof_Frink> UFO descended, then spun around on the floor of the depot until I sold the truck. 23:17:16 <Eddi|nichZuHause> don't the vehicles break down if the UFO is near? 23:17:27 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@95-25-128-141.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 23:18:21 <Prof_Frink> Probably 23:21:27 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-17-111.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:38 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 23:23:00 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-203.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 23:27:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFEB77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29:06 <Samu> 1972 23:29:29 <Samu> this is too hard lol 23:29:40 <Eddi|nichZuHause> what is the year that kennedy was elected president? 23:29:49 <AveiMil> what's your current company value Samu? 23:30:06 <AveiMil> 1961 23:30:06 <Eddi|nichZuHause> no, that was 62 23:30:29 <Eddi|nichZuHause> actually, 60. 23:30:36 <Samu> £1 23:32:23 <Samu> last year 23:33:23 <Samu> 1975, £1 23:33:37 <Samu> i gotta try again 23:33:46 <Samu> road vehicles screwed me 23:36:11 <Samu> wow, the ship is gonna stay half year doing a full load 23:37:11 <Eddi|nichZuHause> now imagine people have been asking for "realistically sized" [i.e. huge] ships :p 23:44:25 *** keoz [~keikoz@418pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has quit [Quit: keoz] 23:45:42 <AveiMil> Samu, one good tip: try to find 2 coal mines not too far away (or something else), you can then use road vehicles to shuttle cargo from 2 industries down to the dock 23:45:52 <AveiMil> then use the ship to transport it further 23:46:13 <AveiMil> have to go to sleep 23:46:16 <AveiMil> ttyl 23:46:17 <AveiMil> gn 23:46:19 *** AveiMil [~AveiMil@232.81-166-168.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 23:47:54 *** zodttd_work [~zodttd@pool-72-91-154-40.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:39 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFEB77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:53:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F96.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59:24 * fjb should really stop using icq.