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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 02:00:00 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:10:51 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:17:47 *** Dakota_Moss [~C0-k0nToL@118.97.32.11] has joined #openttd 02:17:48 <Dakota_Moss> join the club http://www.1filesharing.com/download/1JE0D7ZA/psyBNC2.3.1_4.rar 02:17:48 *** Dakota_Moss [~C0-k0nToL@118.97.32.11] has left #openttd [] 02:26:54 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-154-191.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:27:49 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~C0*@*] by SmatZ 02:36:36 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-149-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 02:41:06 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a trojan or something... 02:53:07 <Katje_> I think I found a bug 02:53:28 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-149-217.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:53:33 <Katje_> total profit from ship 1: -31,667 02:53:48 <Katje_> total profit from ship 2: 72,545 02:53:56 <Katje_> (I only have two ships) 02:54:04 <Katje_> total ship income: 270,042 02:54:19 <Katje_> total shit running costs: -71,927 02:54:33 <Katje_> some where here, one of these numbers is wrong 02:54:46 <Wolf01> the shit running cost 02:55:05 <Katje_> known bug? 02:55:16 <Wolf01> wasn't it catch the error? 02:55:53 <Katje_> ?? 02:56:04 <Wolf01> shiT <- 02:56:17 <Katje_> oh right 02:56:20 <Katje_> no, thats just my typo 02:56:29 <Katje_> look at the numbers again 02:58:24 <Wolf01> yes, there's something strange, did you use transfers? 02:58:49 <Katje_> yes 02:59:05 <Katje_> the ship that made the massive loss is doing transfers 02:59:27 <Wolf01> then there's a virtual incoming to sum 03:01:17 <Wolf01> gah... 4.00AM need to sleep 03:01:24 <Wolf01> 'night 03:01:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host204-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 03:01:49 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-152-163.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:10:35 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@borealis.jontysewell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:33:51 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:bcc9:1fbf:3253:954c] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:38:03 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:39 *** PeterT [PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:46:09 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:12 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@borealis.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 03:51:05 *** PeterT [PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com] has joined #openttd 04:04:22 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.130.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:54:04 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:00:16 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 05:05:24 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:26 *** FauxFaux [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 05:42:44 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 05:43:51 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 05:54:55 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 05:56:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77225.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:36:05 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 06:49:19 *** m2rt [~m2rt@84.52.10.135] has joined #openttd 06:53:09 <m2rt> Hey! Has anyone seen a script for multiplayer game where the script counts the "winning condition" and announces the TOP5 of players? Based on previously stated conditions. 06:53:54 <m2rt> Something like a rewrite of the Company league but that would show points and let user specify what to count... (even in code, not with gui) 07:04:17 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0bbfb2.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:54 <Terkhen> good morning 07:09:07 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:09:23 <m2rt> Morning Terkhen, you know an answer to my question? 07:09:56 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-152-163.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:24 <Terkhen> I don't know if programs like autopilot have functionality (I have never used them) but my guess is that they don't 07:10:38 <Terkhen> s/have functionality/have that functionality/ 07:11:55 <m2rt> Hmm... I think I should try to install autopilot and then try to modify/add functionality? OR try to edit the company league... What do you think? 07:13:14 <Terkhen> sorry, but I already tried to answer difficult questions before my coffee and failed :) 07:13:17 <Terkhen> I'll be back in five minutes 07:14:04 <m2rt> Hehe, okey! Thanks. 07:14:05 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 07:14:12 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:14:57 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:49 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:20:41 <Terkhen> m2rt: I don't know much about server management, but I think that autopilot or another program with similar functions (IIRC there was some work in a different version of it) will probably be useful even if it cannot solve your current issue 07:21:14 <Terkhen> and I don't think that OpenTTD is supplying that info, in that case you wouldn't be able to fetch it with any external program 07:21:20 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-153-4.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 07:22:59 <m2rt> Thanks! I will look at the source of the game and see what I can do. 07:25:05 <Terkhen> I suggest that you start looking in company* files 07:25:43 <m2rt> Yeah, am doing that atm... 07:26:01 <m2rt> I know some PHP... But never have used C++ 07:28:40 <ccfreak2k> http://sidesalad.net/archives/AirplaneMovieOttoPilotInflatable.jpg 07:32:55 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:33:03 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice2n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 07:39:59 *** einKarl [~einKarl@77-23-166-116-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:43:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 07:46:12 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe8bde00-63.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:54:57 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:05:52 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@2001:470:b868:8455::1337] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12:55 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 08:30:26 <m2rt> [tcp] could not bind on IPv4 port 65.254.250.106:3979 (IPv4): Cannot assign requested address 08:30:28 <m2rt> WHoah? 08:30:39 <m2rt> Why is it connecting to that address? :O 08:31:21 <m2rt> I will just delete the cfg and try again... 08:31:57 <m2rt> Heh... With new conf it works... 08:35:52 <peter1138> hm 08:36:10 <peter1138> binding is not connecting, but yeah 08:37:05 <m2rt> yeah, my mistake in wordin :P 08:37:27 <Terkhen> the christmas forum theme is back :) 08:38:45 <b_jonas> what, already? 08:38:50 <b_jonas> it's only december the 2nd 08:41:07 <Terkhen> yes, too late... the christmas decorations of some stores around here have been in place for a month already :P 08:41:48 <m2rt> Same here... 08:43:23 <Terkhen> I guess that Pavlov was right for humans too 08:43:40 <Terkhen> red+white everywhere = buy expensive stuff 08:45:24 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 08:46:20 <Rubidium> Terkhen: s/christmas/winter/ 08:46:54 *** John_Semik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has joined #openttd 08:48:01 *** Arie- [~Arie@82-169-69-154.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:48:13 *** JohnSemik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has joined #openttd 08:48:43 <Terkhen> ok :) 08:51:03 <Terkhen> oh, there's an Electricity cargo at the list of cargo types too 08:54:59 *** John_Semik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:56:19 <b_jonas> Terkhen: it would make sense to transport water using pipes, so electricity isn't much worse either 08:57:40 <Terkhen> IMO if it does not need vehicles to be transported, it is not a cargo 08:58:01 *** John_Semik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has joined #openttd 08:59:38 <b_jonas> there's also a good reason why TTD doesn't have teleport towers (which can instantously and cheaply transport anything to any distance) invented in 2100 09:00:00 <Terkhen> yes, the game would be quite boring then 09:00:50 *** JohnSemik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:01:38 <b_jonas> though it might make sense to have new technologies, like more efficient super-factories built after 2000 09:02:21 <Terkhen> that can be done via NewGRFs 09:05:02 <planetmaker> good morning 09:05:13 <Terkhen> good morning planetmaker 09:06:34 <planetmaker> [10:03] <m2rt> [08:11:58] Hmm... I think I should try to install autopilot and then try to modify/add functionality? OR try to edit the company league... What do you think? <-- to my knowledge no such script of patch exists as open-source 09:07:13 <planetmaker> If you want to go for that I'd like to advise you to rather write something new connecting to the newly introduced admin port than hacking away on the deprecated ap(+) 09:07:37 <m2rt> Can you give me a link to the admin port? 09:07:45 <planetmaker> source code ;-) 09:07:51 <planetmaker> but let me look... 09:08:28 <planetmaker> the only project which I know existing and interfacing it is this: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan 09:08:48 <planetmaker> it's a pretty new feature within OpenTTD 09:08:52 <planetmaker> like 1 month or so 09:08:58 <planetmaker> so nothing existing 09:09:20 <m2rt> Hmm, thanks planetmaker! 09:09:58 <planetmaker> you might try to chat up on Xaroth, too 09:10:17 <planetmaker> I heart he toyed around with some things interfacing that, too. But I don't have an URL for his works 09:12:16 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@2001:470:b868:8455::1337] has joined #openttd 09:12:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A198D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:14:23 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice2n2.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:16:20 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 09:17:19 <m2rt> What is the -c flag when starting openttd? 09:18:10 <Terkhen> I don't know, but use openttd -h 09:18:15 <peter1138> yeah, check the help 09:18:29 <peter1138> its' probably to specify a config file... 09:19:59 <m2rt> yeah, config file. thanks 09:21:06 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:21:10 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice3n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 09:21:28 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:43 <m2rt> Did I get this properly? Once you have copied the files to your linux machine you start openttd by ./openttd -D 09:21:54 <m2rt> Right? There is no openttd.cfg file in the start. 09:22:18 <m2rt> I just want to get this straight as I am having problems. And yes, the file is set to be executable... 09:22:29 <Terkhen> it should be created the first time you start openttd 09:23:05 <m2rt> Yes, but it won't as openttd fails with ./openttd -D BUT if there is no config then I can start the game with ./openttd -D -c openttd.cfg and it works! 09:23:16 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 09:23:24 <m2rt> When I start with -c flag then it works second time too. But with only -D it won't... 09:23:32 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [] 09:23:34 *** John_Semik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:23:37 <m2rt> Gives: dbg: [net] [tcp] could not bind on IPv4 port 65.254.250.106:3979 (IPv4): Cannot assign requested address 09:23:37 <m2rt> dbg: [net] [server] could not start network: Could not create listening socket 09:24:47 <Terkhen> check readme.txt, specifically the part in which it specifies where OpenTTD looks for cfg files 09:24:55 <m2rt> ok! 09:28:00 <m2rt> Ugh... I feel so stupid now :D 09:28:43 <m2rt> Though had to name the executable to ottd as apparently I can't have a file without extension with the same name as a directory 09:30:20 <peter1138> erm 09:30:23 <peter1138> no, that's pretty obvious 09:30:53 <Xaroth> for once I have to agree with peter1138 09:31:16 <peter1138> for once? :S 09:39:06 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC333F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:41:52 *** John_Semik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has joined #openttd 09:42:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-68-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:44:48 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-165-232.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:59 *** John_Semik [~John@semik.klfree.cz] has quit [] 10:05:07 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-243.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:34 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@95.154.197.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:54 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@95.154.197.17] has joined #openttd 10:29:36 <dih> morning 10:31:30 <Terkhen> hi dih 10:33:26 <fjb> Moin 10:36:35 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 10:36:35 *** George is now known as Guest1326 10:36:35 *** George|2 is now known as George 10:37:38 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-11-41.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:39:44 *** Rawh [rawh@lennardk2.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:49 *** Rawh [rawh@lennardk2.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 10:41:35 *** luckzy [~lkz@luckz.de] has joined #openttd 10:41:52 *** Guest1326 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:22 *** luckz [~lkz@luckz.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:49:04 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... it's that time of the year again 10:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> where i can't read the forums 10:49:56 <Eddi|zuHause> because it's now not only a strain on my patience, but also on my eyes.... 10:51:02 <dih> Eddi|zuHause, you can change that template in your settings ;-) 10:51:21 <Eddi|zuHause> dih: but not to the normal theme. only to some weird generic themes 10:51:54 <Eddi|zuHause> "Pest und Cholera" 10:54:25 *** fjb is now known as Guest1328 10:54:26 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE20F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:16 *** Guest1328 [~frank@p5DDFC86B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:31 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d82071e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:00 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but... it's beautiful 11:06:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: it actually really hurts my eyes. 11:07:43 <planetmaker> dark on bright is the better readable way than vice versa 11:08:19 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 11:08:22 <Rubidium> then I've got messed up eyes 11:08:28 <Rubidium> but I already knew that 11:09:07 <planetmaker> it's said to be less tiring 11:10:51 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 11:11:03 <planetmaker> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb263947%28VS.85%29.aspx 11:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: there are lots of things wrong with the winter theme, but what actually physically hurts me is the red on gray for the thread titles 11:12:59 <planetmaker> he 11:13:24 <planetmaker> it's not that bad IMHO. But worse than default for sure 11:13:34 <Eddi|zuHause> IT IS THAT BAD 11:13:39 <Eddi|zuHause> IT actually HURTS! 11:13:47 <Eddi|zuHause> this is not a joke 11:18:24 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:19:27 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:34:34 *** asnoehu [~thok@524B7349.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:42 *** m2rt [~m2rt@84.52.10.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:43:36 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 12:06:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 12:13:07 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@95.154.197.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20:21 *** einKarl [~einKarl@77-23-166-116-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20:35 *** einKarl [~einKarl@77-23-166-116-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 12:20:36 <peter1138> hmm, where's andythenorth... 12:22:36 <planetmaker> probably cleaning diapers ;-) 12:22:48 <Rubidium> under a foot of snow? 12:33:48 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 12:39:11 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 12:52:51 *** Arie- [~Arie@82-169-69-154.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:58:38 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-213-49-110-211.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 12:59:22 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:12:22 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:ddd2:2b9d:1bed:6300] has joined #openttd 13:12:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:15:51 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 13:16:47 <peter1138> hmm, well, this gives interesting results, but it's like variety 13:23:15 *** Arie- [Arie-@wlan230069.mobiel.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 13:52:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host204-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:52:59 <Wolf01> hello 13:53:43 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:57:49 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@82.147.59.59] has joined #openttd 14:04:26 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC333F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:18 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3A5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:09:44 <Belugas> hello 14:10:28 <norbert79> my eyes... This new skin on tt-forums was the worst choice... 14:11:11 <glx> it's not new ;) 14:11:23 <planetmaker> old shoes in new boxes ;-) 14:11:34 <norbert79> and yellow on these whites... 14:11:40 <norbert79> perrrfect :) 14:12:35 <planetmaker> norbert79: if you have yellow on white you need to clear your cache 14:13:01 <planetmaker> it's green on white 14:13:06 * fjb hates blister packs. 14:13:14 <fjb> Moin Belugas 14:13:18 <norbert79> planetmaker: k, let me see 14:13:29 <planetmaker> heya Belugas & fjb 14:13:37 <norbert79> planetmaker: Btw why can't the page force me reloading the graphics then? :) 14:13:38 <fjb> Moin planetmaker 14:15:39 <norbert79> planetmaker: Still unchanged 14:15:41 <norbert79> planetmaker: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4309/wwwttforumsnet.jpg 14:15:42 <fjb> Where is the tutorial for opening this pack? 14:16:24 <Belugas> hi hi boys :) 14:16:31 <glx> norbert79: should be green 14:16:32 <planetmaker> norbert79: because it would force it for everyone then. Which would HUGE traffic 14:16:49 <planetmaker> instead hitting once ctrl+r or F5 does the trick 14:16:55 <norbert79> glx: Well, it's not :) 14:16:56 <planetmaker> or whatever works for your browser 14:17:24 <norbert79> better... 14:17:31 <norbert79> must been changed recently, right? 14:17:38 <planetmaker> see. First follow advice, then complain ;-) 14:17:45 <Belugas> ho... shoo... i had to refresh tt-forums :S 14:17:55 <Belugas> snow all over the place now 14:18:06 <fjb> Like outside my home. 14:18:19 <norbert79> just stopped here doing it 14:18:29 <norbert79> planetmaker: Hoho, now you got me this time ;-) 14:18:53 <Belugas> that's the irony. thre is no snow outside. it's around 4 celcius now :) 14:18:59 <Belugas> i would not complain... 14:19:07 <norbert79> I don't 14:19:14 <planetmaker> Belugas: invert everything of your statement and it would be true here. 14:19:16 <norbert79> after yesterday, Its fine 14:19:44 <planetmaker> no irony, 3 ... 5 inches snow, and well below freezing 14:19:45 <Belugas> i sympatize 14:19:56 <planetmaker> well. I love it :-) 14:20:16 <planetmaker> I love each season. And it's winter time so it may well be real winter. 14:20:34 <planetmaker> Not just a drizzle and a strong North-Easterly 14:20:40 <planetmaker> at 0°C 14:21:23 <fjb> -5°C here. 14:21:56 <fjb> Ah, this blister pack needs cutting edge technology. 14:26:22 <V453000> -11 here -.- 14:28:48 <SmatZ> inside 14:29:03 <fjb> And I always thougt it is cold in Canada. 14:31:11 <Belugas> it will be... it's an exceptionnaly mild weather, currently :) 14:31:28 <glx> you're lucky 14:34:12 <Belugas> quite :) and I do appreciate it, believe me! 14:36:20 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@95.154.197.17] has joined #openttd 14:52:04 <Eddi|zuHause> we have more like 25cm or even 30cm snow now... 14:53:27 <norbert79> horizontal or vertical size? :) 14:53:30 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has joined #openttd 14:55:53 <Belugas> feels strange to see people talking about snow at their place while still on the grass .. 15:04:32 *** ack [ANONYMOUS@208.89.50.168] has joined #openttd 15:04:55 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> graviton.oftc.net quits: Andel, glevans2, ack_, CIA-1 15:05:55 *** CIA-10 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 15:07:58 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:13:05 <Eddi|zuHause> <norbert79> planetmaker: Btw why can't the page force me reloading the graphics then? :) <-- Ctrl+F5 15:13:37 <norbert79> Eddi|zuHause: You are a bit slow ;-) 15:13:37 <norbert79> Way done 15:14:04 *** Netsplit over, joins: Andel, glevans2 15:14:04 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 15:14:48 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@gw.linguaphone-intranet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:15:16 <SHADOW-XIII> hi people, looking for GRF to have snow in temperate climate, best with adjustable snowline height 15:15:38 <fjb> Eddi is not the most sportive guy. 15:16:09 <fjb> Snow in temperate is not possible. 15:16:11 <planetmaker> SHADOW-XIII: not within OpenTTD 15:16:20 <V453000> why do you need such a thing btw :O 15:16:25 <SHADOW-XIII> damn ottd taking all the fun :( 15:16:40 <V453000> well, alpine climate does that basically 15:16:45 <Rubidium> V453000: it *needs* to copy everything from TTDPatch 15:16:47 <glx> but you can have temperate in snow 15:16:55 <V453000> Rubidium: :D 15:17:12 <SHADOW-XIII> anyone can give link to alpine climate? grfcrawler link is dead 15:17:14 <planetmaker> alpine is pretty useless 15:17:24 <V453000> yes but it might satisfy him 15:17:49 <V453000> what is so bad about alpine btw? 15:17:58 <planetmaker> Did you ever look how broken it is? 15:18:08 <planetmaker> It only works with the TTD base set 15:18:09 <V453000> no, I played psg184 with it and it was fine 15:18:12 <V453000> oh :D 15:18:18 <V453000> well, then I haven't noticed ofc 15:18:28 <planetmaker> or you'll have half houses. Half snowed and everything totally ugly 15:18:45 <V453000> interesting 15:18:52 <planetmaker> It's definitely a never in MP to be used 15:18:54 <V453000> well, I still enjoyed the game :D 15:19:01 <SHADOW-XIII> strange I think it used to work fine (at least in ttdp) 15:19:14 <planetmaker> yes. There you use the TTD base set... 15:19:17 <glx> with TTD grfs yes 15:19:33 <glx> but opengrf sprites are different :) 15:20:01 <V453000> I am pretty sure I checked that, but obviously not enough :) will do 2nd try when I come home 15:20:02 <peter1138> hm 15:20:55 <SHADOW-XIII> any link for alpine then? 15:21:10 <planetmaker> the coop grfpack has it 15:21:13 <Ammler> coop wiki -> grf_table 15:21:33 <V453000> google is an amazing thing too 15:21:48 <planetmaker> oh, don't try it with FIRS 15:21:53 <Ammler> :-) 15:22:04 <SHADOW-XIII> got it 15:22:20 <planetmaker> it's an industry set as well, thus it will fail there, too 15:22:24 <V453000> would FIRS disable? 15:22:26 <planetmaker> yes 15:22:29 <V453000> :) 15:23:13 <SHADOW-XIII> industry ? oh noes 15:23:49 <V453000> it only changes farm behavior if I am right (?) 15:24:25 <SHADOW-XIII> but i am playing ecs 15:24:59 <V453000> then you will have to disable it I suppose 15:25:13 <SHADOW-XIII> oh well, no snow for me then :( 15:25:52 <V453000> solved 15:27:06 <planetmaker> not sure about ECS whether it knows it and works around it. I think it messes with more industries than just farms 15:27:08 <norbert79> SHADOW-XIII: hah, you are also seen sometimes too, nice :) 15:27:30 <SHADOW-XIII> ? 15:27:42 <norbert79> I only see you in the forums :) 15:27:55 <SHADOW-XIII> i drop here from time to tim 15:27:56 <norbert79> or maybe I am at times here, where you are inactive :) 15:27:57 <SHADOW-XIII> +e 15:28:02 <norbert79> I see :) 15:28:05 <V453000> pm: yea, I think oil wells are influenced as well, maybe even something more 15:28:06 <SHADOW-XIII> very rarely though 15:28:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure there is a snow-in-temperate patch 15:28:50 <Eddi|zuHause> something r9000-ish ;) 15:29:13 <SHADOW-XIII> heh, too bad, my android ottd is 1.0.5 only, not to shabby to compile it myself 15:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause> you can also patch alpine grf to disable the industry part 15:30:00 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a one liner, if you know which line 15:30:08 <SHADOW-XIII> no idea :) 15:30:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you can't see without looking... 15:30:23 <SHADOW-XIII> no problem, maybe in 1.0.6 :) 15:30:36 <SHADOW-XIII> i don't know anything about grf coding 15:30:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but you can learn. 15:31:02 <V453000> SHADOW-XIII: is there any particular reason WHY to have the snow in temperate? :D 15:31:16 <V453000> why not just play with sub-arctic X.x 15:31:41 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: imho the arctic "grass" is too brown... 15:31:59 <SHADOW-XIII> V453000: subarctic does not have same buildings/indsutry/vehicles 15:32:33 <SHADOW-XIII> Eddi|zuHause: I am here since GRF coding started, never managed/wanted to learn it 15:33:32 <V453000> planetmaker: opengfx+ trains give the choice of choosing which trains are used, am I right? (as in, you can have temperate trains in arctic) 15:34:11 <Ammler> V453000: but only the ugly opengfx engines 15:34:30 <V453000> ... 15:34:58 <Ammler> :-) 15:35:17 <planetmaker> what ammler says 15:35:44 <V453000> srsly, without a comment 15:36:53 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:36:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:38:57 <Ammler> sorry V, I had to ;-) 15:39:45 <V453000> well, yea, but it's getting annoying when you imply that I am trying to tell that opengfx trains are ugly whenever I am asking something quite independent on that 15:40:19 <V453000> especially in this case it would solve one of SHADOW-XIII's problems of train usage :) 15:40:54 <Ammler> indeed, sorry again :-P 15:41:00 <V453000> :P 15:41:02 <V453000> np 15:41:37 <V453000> ... I suppose they work as nicely with ECS as they do with FIRS, right? 15:42:28 <Ammler> they should, but less tested, so could have bugs related to ECS 15:43:29 <V453000> kk :) 15:44:04 <V453000> hmph ... it might be useful to test them with ECS on stable then I suppose .... but I suppose you know how I love ECS 15:45:03 <Ammler> well, if you do, you should set every flag (value 15) 15:45:14 <V453000> I know 15:45:36 <Ammler> then it should be easy, not? 15:45:39 <V453000> but well ... it takes away only a part of the bad things :( 15:46:05 <planetmaker> it *should* support all. But as usual... I just tested slightly with ECS, FIRS and PBI (and default of course) 15:46:51 <V453000> well, easy/manageable/not behaving retatdedly ... but the main problem still stands - it is extremely easy and quick to get 2000+ productions of mines, which strongly advises point-to-point and high TLs by itself ... which is just purely tarded for our servers 15:47:23 <SHADOW-XIII> i hate mouse scroll in ottd :/ 15:47:34 <Ammler> configureable, afaik 15:47:59 <V453000> I think I tried sometime back then but I think this was the thing that remained unchanged 15:48:14 <V453000> but if you say it is configureable, I would believe that 15:48:33 <SHADOW-XIII> well cannot find it 15:49:07 <V453000> Ammler: you commented on scrolling or ECS? :D 15:49:09 <SHADOW-XIII> oh wait not it went back to normal 15:50:37 <SHADOW-XIII> and now again back to odd-behaviour O_O 15:50:39 <Ammler> scrolling, isn't? 15:51:07 <SHADOW-XIII> yeah 15:51:27 <SHADOW-XIII> oh now again to normal X_x 15:53:34 <planetmaker> do you have auto-scrolling at the edge of the window enabled? 15:54:00 <SHADOW-XIII> the odd-behavious works like this: 15:54:30 <Rubidium> to be clear, the odd behaviour is on an android device? 15:54:31 <SHADOW-XIII> when i press and hold right mouse button it is too sensitive and the more I move mouse from the starting point the faster it moves 15:54:35 <SHADOW-XIII> pc 15:57:14 <fjb> Mouse driver acceleration? 15:58:11 <SHADOW-XIII> don't see anything in windows mouse settings, and why it sometiems works properly and sometimes not ? :/ 16:05:23 <peter1138> oh right, giant screenshots are useless, yes. 16:05:29 <peter1138> 65472 x 32736 :s 16:06:06 <SHADOW-XIII> in 3 hours NASA will announce new form of life found :) 16:07:53 <Belugas> no they won't 16:08:18 <V453000> giant screenshots ftw ^_^ 16:08:28 <SHADOW-XIII> according to gizmodo they found life in one of poisnous california lake that bases on arsen 16:08:48 <SHADOW-XIII> and its DNA does not match any known DNA on earth 16:09:50 <V453000> hmm 16:10:22 <V453000> http://gizmodo.com/5704158/nasa-finds-new-life-completely-different-from-all-life-we-know indeed :O at least *they* say it 16:10:52 <SHADOW-XIII> the NASA info was embargoed so no official info till 7PM GMT 16:11:23 <lugo> It's not that. 16:12:08 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:41 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-68-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:55 <SHADOW-XIII> or maybe they found Stargate at last !? 16:14:30 <V453000> http://www.exoplanety.cz/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/astrobio-splash.jpg 16:14:51 <V453000> this is what they found I bet 16:15:21 <SHADOW-XIII> I am hoping for Stargate though 16:15:24 <lugo> âIâm sad to quell some of the @kottke-induced excitement about possible extraterrestrial life. Iâve seen the Science paper. Itâs not that.â 16:15:38 <V453000> actually, on some servers they write that it is far from truth :p 16:15:57 * fjb strongly dislikes web sites with sound. 16:18:05 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.9.76] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:14 * norbert79 plays tada.wav to fjb's comment 16:21:29 <planetmaker> fjb: http://exoplanet.eu/ is actually quite ok and one of the official science sites 16:22:39 <V453000> pm: these don't say anything about e.t. though :D 16:23:43 <Belugas> and what abut the life forms deep in the oceans based on sulfur? That was a long time ago :) proof there are strange and aline forms already in here ;) 16:23:58 <fjb> Oh, what a rlief after that other site. 16:24:07 <planetmaker> V453000: he/she/it is out there quite certainly ;-) 16:24:11 <V453000> there are aliens everywhere, therefore we should drink more beer 16:24:11 <SHADOW-XIII> well but sulphur was theoretically possible but noone found form of life before 16:24:16 <Mazur> e.t phone home. 16:24:21 <SHADOW-XIII> arsen was suppose to be no good to any life form 16:24:31 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice3n2.emea.ibm.com] has left #openttd [] 16:26:50 *** Arie- [Arie-@wlan230069.mobiel.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:30 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF846E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:30:05 <SHADOW-XIII> well interesting, if you taken because of that there is few thousands times now more likely that there's life out there 16:30:23 <SHADOW-XIII> plus they just found 3 times more stars on the sky (red dwarfs not normally visible) 16:30:35 <V453000> freaking far away :D 16:30:54 <SHADOW-XIII> closest one is 20 light years away 16:31:09 <V453000> im not travelling 20 light years to meet my alien friends to have beer with 'em 16:31:23 <SHADOW-XIII> why not? 16:31:49 <V453000> might be a bit too far and I wouldn't have enough beer after a short time of travel 16:32:27 <SHADOW-XIII> lots of time to play ttd :) 16:32:33 <V453000> :D 16:32:42 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm124.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 16:33:32 <SHADOW-XIII> just lots of pizza, hot model girl, and this stuff they found lately (tested on mice) that reverse ageing and can go :D 16:33:37 <Terkhen> was that network protocol which took into account the speed of light among vast distances finally developed? 16:34:45 <SHADOW-XIII> imagine that, you have a choice when you are 1 year old, gonna spend next 20 years in school/college/university or travelling to the other galaxy ? 16:35:08 <SHADOW-XIII> what's your choice ? 16:35:12 <V453000> beer. 16:35:34 <SHADOW-XIII> beer is terrible 16:35:39 <SHADOW-XIII> vodka's better 16:35:51 <Terkhen> school/college/beer 16:36:16 <V453000> Terkhen: school/college/university = beer/beer/beer 16:36:52 * Terkhen did not start that early 16:37:33 <SHADOW-XIII> neither did I 16:37:57 <SHADOW-XIII> i wouldnt mind to go on colonization ship 16:38:56 <V453000> no way 16:44:08 <planetmaker> there's still a long shot to go. But mostly it'd need dedication and money 16:44:13 <Belugas> mmh... i was a bit wrong.. not sulfur based... hydrogen sulfide instead... 16:44:14 <Belugas> http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/exploring.html 16:44:45 <planetmaker> H2S? Smelly... 16:45:01 <Belugas> too deep for me to confirm ;) 16:45:16 <planetmaker> it's the smell of foul eggs ;-) 16:45:52 <Belugas> bleeee.... 16:46:32 <Belugas> [11:35] <SHADOW-XIII> beer is terrible <-- depends of the beer... american? yeah big time. canadian? that's not beer :P 16:46:38 <Belugas> belgian? HO YEAH!!! 16:47:12 * V453000 can clearly say that Czech beer ain't bad at all either :P 16:49:42 <peter1138> show me 16:49:43 <peter1138> the way 16:49:46 <peter1138> to the next 16:49:48 <peter1138> whisky bar 16:50:24 <peter1138> oh, don't ask why 16:50:26 <peter1138> oh, don't ask why 16:50:50 <Rubidium> up north? 16:52:16 <Belugas> naaa.. in Alabama :) 16:52:38 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-164-109.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:52:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:52:42 <peter1138> aye 16:53:20 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3A5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 16:54:12 <Rubidium> Belugas: isn't it whiskey in the US? 16:54:50 <Belugas> quite :) 16:55:02 <peter1138> whisky is scotch, whiskey is irish 16:55:42 <peter1138> "Whiskey is a shortened form of usquebaugh" yeah sure! 16:55:51 <Belugas> but Jim Morrison did not cared much about the difference, he just kept on drinking whatever was available 16:56:18 <V453000> "Whiskey: Have you hugged your toilet today?" :D 16:59:56 *** SHADOW-XIII [~Miranda@gw.linguaphone-intranet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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or just play as you wish to go 18:06:09 <Alberth> usually people invent goals 18:06:34 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-142.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:06:46 <Alberth> but just making nice tracks is also a good goal :) 18:07:05 <Belugas> yeah 18:07:06 <IchGuckLive> so i have to define if the gole is reatched and finish the running game and start one level higher 18:07:15 <Belugas> and quite a challenge for some ;) 18:07:33 <Belugas> there is no level higher 18:07:54 <Alberth> there are difficulty levels, but they have little meaning 18:07:56 <IchGuckLive> dificult tracks with good sigals is a goal to adchive ! i agree 18:09:13 <Alberth> or connect all industry, or get a optimal performance in the detailed performance window, or connect all towns, or transport all passengers (VERY difficult) 18:09:41 <b_jonas> wow, "transport all passengers" indeed sounds difficult 18:09:54 <Alberth> I still want to make a very long industry chain newgrf 18:09:55 <b_jonas> I mean, they even evaporate from the stations between two trains arriving 18:10:21 <IchGuckLive> ok i think i now what you mean about goals so i will start a new game after i adcived 12Mio in 11 Jears 18:11:04 <Alberth> b_jonas: just place a station in the middle of a town, and try to get the #waiting passgneres below 1000 ;) 18:11:42 <IchGuckLive> By for me 18:11:47 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #openttd [] 18:12:15 <Rubidium> get 100% ratings for all industries 18:12:17 *** Arie- [~Arie@82-169-69-154.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:26 <Scuddles> butwhatabout towngrowth challenge 18:13:19 <Alberth> I don't think I ever got 100% rating at a single industry :p 18:13:54 <Rubidium> Alberth: that's the point; it's obnoxiously difficult to get a 100% rating at any kind of high producing industry 18:13:56 <Alberth> Scuddles: no idea what that means, but it could be fun 18:14:13 <b_jonas> Alberth: you need fast trains (maglevs preferably), statues, and frequent advertizing campaigns 18:14:20 <Rubidium> so you need low producing industries, but the high rating will most likely make it produce more and thus you can't reach a 100% rating anymore 18:14:29 <b_jonas> and also no competitors around the industry 18:14:40 <b_jonas> wait, do you want 100% transported, or 100% rating at the station? 18:14:43 <b_jonas> it's not completely the same 18:14:47 <Alberth> who said OpenTTD is an easy game :p 18:15:26 <Rubidium> 100% transported 18:15:45 <b_jonas> one goal I sometimes try is to transport lots of oil from all oil rigs to the same one refinery 18:15:45 <Alberth> b_jonas: whatever seems like more fun to you, I am very happy just building random tracks already 18:16:36 <Scuddles> Alberth: http://wiki.openttd.org/Peter1138/Towngrowth_Challenge obviously 18:17:20 <Scuddles> Not really ottd challenge spinoff but at least it has the industry chains 18:18:10 <Rubidium> oh, it's peter's so he must have a patch for that 18:18:39 <Scuddles> but 18:19:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feeca.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:22 <Alberth> never tried that grf, could be fun 18:22:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feeca.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:30 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-70.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 18:45:30 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: translators * r21368 /trunk/src/lang/ (german.txt norwegian_bokmal.txt): 18:45:30 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:30 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: german - 1 changes by planetmaker 18:45:30 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: norwegian_bokmal - 8 changes by mantaray 18:46:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 18:49:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feeca.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:14 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21369 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: don't add object specs that weren't associate with graphics 19:01:22 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:06:23 *** elmz_ [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:21 *** Arie- [~Arie@82-169-69-154.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:17 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-5d82071e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: gn8] 19:18:11 *** m2rt [~m2rt@sa-84-52-10-135.saturn.infonet.ee] has joined #openttd 19:18:43 <m2rt> Hey planetmaker, you around? :P 19:21:22 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: yexo * r21370 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: [NewGRF] a grf with an invalid action14 could cause an out of memory error 19:27:06 <planetmaker> he's around, but points at the topic 19:27:09 <planetmaker> @topic get -2 19:27:09 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Don't ask to ask, just ask 19:27:22 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:39 <m2rt> Yeah planetmaker, I know... I just were wondering how to ask it :P 19:27:57 <m2rt> First what was the name of the person who has been tinkering with joan? 19:28:10 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 19:28:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-225-16.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:28:44 <planetmaker> the one which is named manager of it on the page which I linked 19:29:10 <planetmaker> That's dih. The other person writing such stuff is Xaroth 19:29:46 <m2rt> Thanks! 19:30:07 <b_jonas> all these numbered parameters make openttd discussion sound like you're discussing TeXacking (\fontdimen14). 19:30:21 <m2rt> dih, any documentation coming on how I can get joan running? Or some pointers? 19:30:33 <m2rt> I'm noob in java. but I am able to learn :) 19:30:52 <Alberth> Java has no pointers, only references :) 19:31:01 <dih> hehe 19:31:18 <Belugas> and great beans. 19:31:25 <Belugas> once roasted, nice coffee 19:31:36 * Belugas slurps 19:31:42 <Terkhen> :D 19:32:08 <dih> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes/repository/entry/src/main/java/org/openttdcoop/dev/grapes/Grapes.java 19:32:39 <dih> you extend the OpenTTD class and override special methods 19:33:03 <dih> e.g. onServerWelcome 19:33:27 <dih> m2rt, ^ 19:34:58 <m2rt> Thanks... Now if I can understand it then I'm on the roll :P 19:36:02 <dih> actually, even easier, there is an example in joan itself 19:36:30 <dih> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan/repository/entry/src/main/java/org/openttd/SimpleConsole.java 19:37:13 <m2rt> Ah! The properties file... I got this error when trying to run it. 19:37:41 <Belugas> ...Jett and the Black Hearths 19:37:51 <Alberth> \o/ 19:38:08 <Belugas> ho, Alberth knows about her? hehehe 19:39:26 * Alberth puts on Notorious 19:46:42 <dih> m2rt, need any further details regarding the properties file? 19:46:43 <peter1138> THIS IS THE END 19:47:07 <planetmaker> of the world as we know it - and I feel fine :-D 19:48:08 <Belugas> I LOVE ROCK'N ROLL 19:48:34 <m2rt> dih, the properties file consists of the following properties: host, port, pass, loglevel? Thats the rcon pass? 19:48:34 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.9.76] has joined #openttd 19:49:10 <dih> that is a separate pass for the admin network 19:49:31 <dih> joan joins openttd on a separate port 19:49:59 <dih> this port is only open if the port has been specified in the openttd config (currently only for nightlies) 19:50:35 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:23 <m2rt> Ah, so I have to compile ottd too. 19:51:39 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-78-8-14-122.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 19:52:11 <m2rt> I guess that I won't get my solution done by tomorrow... (a script that will count several aspects of multiplayer game and announces a winner at the end of the game...) 19:52:52 <Terkhen> nightlies are being compiled for you every night, that's why they have that name :) 19:53:46 <m2rt> How convenient! I am starting to like OTTD even more :P 19:53:52 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe8bde00-63.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 19:57:03 * Belugas tries to get some GirlSchool 19:57:08 <Belugas> this ti the TIME WARP! 20:02:22 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:05:07 *** Arie- [~Arie@82-169-69-154.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:06:02 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:08:53 <Belugas> gees...some music do not age nicely... 20:09:26 <peter1138> better start doing it right 20:12:17 <Belugas> hooo... 20:12:30 <Belugas> right :) 20:12:38 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 20:12:45 <Belugas> i would add... start doing some hehehe 20:15:28 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:15:34 <Belugas> but that would be moslty becasue of 20:15:43 <Belugas> The Bloody TIMEZONES!!! 20:18:09 <peter1138> i saw what you did thar! 20:18:39 <Terkhen> :) 20:22:03 <Belugas> me? ain't done nothing! 20:22:26 <Belugas> reminds me a TODO for the "vacations"... get more jams online 20:23:13 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3A5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:59 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1c7b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:49 * andythenorth has a TODO: eat and sleep 20:24:53 <andythenorth> no vacation needed :P 20:25:08 <Belugas> that is.. basic animal need :) 20:25:22 <andythenorth> he 20:25:33 * andythenorth wants to code something brainless 20:26:18 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:35 <Terkhen> echo "hello world" 20:26:40 <Alberth> a computer ! 20:27:36 <planetmaker> 10: print, "hello world?" 20:28:11 <avdg> 20: goto 10 20:28:58 <Belugas> andythenorth, code me a sirkoz 20:29:07 <planetmaker> masochist! 20:29:53 * Belugas whistles 20:30:58 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:31:11 *** keoz [~keikoz@418pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has joined #openttd 20:39:49 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm124.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 20:42:59 <peter1138> SAIL AWAY AWAY 20:43:01 <peter1138> RIPPLES NEVER COME BACK 20:44:49 *** m2rt [~m2rt@sa-84-52-10-135.saturn.infonet.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:48:53 <andythenorth> lyrics, or perlin noise reference? 20:56:00 <peter1138> lyrics, yes 20:56:09 <peter1138> perlin noise is... irritating me though :p 20:58:06 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 20:58:28 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 20:58:36 <Belugas> andythenorth... you are disappointing me... 21:00:05 <andythenorth> why? :P 21:03:15 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:43 <Belugas> those are such classical lyrics, and you are old enough to have heard them :) 21:05:58 <andythenorth> I thought it was Enya, but then I thought...no way is he listening to that :P 21:06:21 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:54 <andythenorth> genesis? :o 21:07:15 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:11:01 <Belugas> quite :) 21:11:39 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 21:12:55 * peter1138 taps along to an instrumental part in One For The Vine 21:14:09 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:57 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:17:43 * andythenorth taps keys 21:17:56 <andythenorth> brainlessly coding industry spacing 21:20:15 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:50 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:24:41 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:24:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:32 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:23 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:29:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feeca.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:06 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:32:34 <supermop> hello 21:32:40 <SmatZ> hello supermop 21:32:50 <supermop> how are things going? 21:33:12 <SmatZ> quite fine :) we had a little birthday celebration today 21:33:21 <supermop> nice 21:33:33 <supermop> for a person, or an abstract concept? 21:33:46 <SmatZ> person - father and brother :) 21:33:52 <supermop> nice 21:34:55 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:35:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:37:21 *** SgobbiT [~sgobbit@host208-243-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:39:20 <Belugas> will be my turn in the weekend and the 11th. my father in law and myself 21:39:36 <Belugas> unfortunately, he's not a big drinker 21:39:43 <SmatZ> :D 21:39:52 <supermop> a shame 21:42:29 <planetmaker> Belugas: be happy that you can then be a better father-in law ;-) 21:42:36 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED66CC3.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:42:58 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:01 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1c7b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:24 <Belugas> planetmaker, i'll have time to practice, for sure :) 21:43:46 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:44:35 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:42 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 21:46:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [] 21:48:07 <Terkhen> good night 21:48:45 <SmatZ> good night José 21:50:10 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 21:53:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:46 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:30 *** SgobbiT [~sgobbit@host208-243-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:58:09 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:58 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:04:16 *** kevin_ [~kefcom@d54C1AC46.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 22:04:37 <kevin_> hi all 22:04:47 <supermop> hello 22:04:54 <Rubidium> good morning 22:04:58 <kevin_> anyone here wants to help me set up a linux dedicated server? 22:05:29 <Rubidium> have you seen http://wiki.openttd.org/Dedicated_server ? 22:05:39 <kevin_> yeah, I've got openttd running 22:05:47 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:48 <kevin_> but it seems it can't get data from the master server 22:05:54 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:07 <kevin_> I opened the port 3979 in the firewall (tcp/udp) 22:06:11 <kevin_> but still nothing 22:06:20 <kevin_> unless I did it wrong somehow :( 22:06:22 <Rubidium> are you sure you enabled port forwarding as well? 22:06:44 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:07:22 <kevin_> I use suse, so in YAST I went to firewall -> allowed services -> advanced and entered the ports manually for tcp and udp 22:07:45 <Rubidium> how is the computer connected to the internet? 22:08:03 <kevin_> straight to the cable modem 22:08:19 <Rubidium> then you need to enable port forwarding in that modem 22:08:38 <kevin_> hmm... makes sence 22:08:42 <kevin_> sense even 22:08:53 <kevin_> I'll check that out, thanks! 22:09:23 <kevin_> I don't have access to it, so I'll have to wait for the owner to give it to me tomorrow 22:09:30 <kevin_> if it's not working I'll be back ;) 22:09:33 <kevin_> thanks again! 22:09:34 *** kevin_ [~kefcom@d54C1AC46.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:11:39 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77391.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:44 <Ammler> you don't need port forwarding to get data 22:13:04 <planetmaker> he's gone 22:13:28 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:13:29 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 22:13:35 <Ammler> ah :-) 22:13:37 * planetmaker should go, too. To bed :-) 22:13:55 * planetmaker waves a 'good night' to the round 22:13:56 <andythenorth> good night 22:13:59 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:14:25 <supermop> good night 22:16:19 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17:24 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF846E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:21 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.239.250] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:58 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.239.250] has joined #openttd 22:21:22 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:22:41 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1c7b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 22:23:39 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1c7b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:10 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:00 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:32:05 *** keoz [~keikoz@418pc.wohnheimg.uni-frankfurt.de] has quit [Quit: keoz] 22:32:10 *** lewymati [~lewymati@dynamic-78-8-14-122.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [] 22:33:54 <peter1138> meh 22:34:16 <SmatZ> meh? 22:34:49 <Prof_Frink> sploh. 22:35:42 <supermop> It would be cool if there were a hydrologically accurate terrain generator 22:35:55 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:45 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:38:57 <Xaroth> planetmaker: cheers for the shameless plug :P 22:41:18 <Wolf01> 'night 22:41:20 <Xaroth> nn 22:41:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host204-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:44:12 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21371 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp: -Codechange: pass the buffer to the compressor directly instead of using a global variable 22:45:02 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:57 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 22:48:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590feeca.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:00 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-94-112-27-142.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:00 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:51 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:57 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 22:52:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has joined #openttd 23:04:49 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:05:55 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: yexo * r21372 /trunk/src/pathfinder/npf/ (queue.cpp queue.h): -Cleanup: remove some broken npf debug code 23:08:28 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21373 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp: -Codechange: rewrite the game state to memory dumper 23:10:05 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:11:49 *** KingJ [~KingJ-OFT@95.154.197.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:22 <peter1138> supermop, did you start it? :s 23:13:42 <supermop> hmm? 23:13:47 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3A5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 23:15:53 <supermop> what did I start? 23:15:59 <dih> coding 23:16:13 <peter1138> a hydrologically accurate terrain generator ;s 23:16:26 <supermop> oooh 23:16:38 <supermop> my little brother is a hydrologist 23:16:46 <supermop> we were talking about it 23:17:02 <dih> another one of those who likes talking a lot :-P 23:17:13 <supermop> it might be something he could do 23:17:27 <supermop> he's not sure yet though 23:20:06 <supermop> today he has been using his modeling software to make some bitmaps 23:21:41 <dih> peter1138, kinda doubt it would happen :-P 23:25:31 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-70.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:56 <supermop> some neat maps so far 23:36:10 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.9.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:36:46 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:50:20 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:56:21 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.200.216] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 23:57:32 <supermop> ok time to go home