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08:17:10  <zgrillo2004> hi
08:17:29  <zgrillo2004> anyone there
08:18:28  <Rubidium> sorry, last time I saw anyone he was playing on #openttdcoop's public server
08:18:41  <zgrillo2004> I have a question
08:18:44  <zgrillo2004> http://media.openttd.org/images/screens/1.0/20091018_panswat_tongvorarat_thumb.png
08:18:53  <zgrillo2004> this screenshot shows buildings I have not seen
08:18:57  <zgrillo2004> sry if im a noob
08:19:24  <Rubidium> looks like the total town replacement NewGRF
08:19:48  <zgrillo2004> do you know where can I find this?
08:20:07  <Rubidium> probably via the in-game content downloader
08:20:16  <zgrillo2004> hmm let me check
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08:25:22  <zgrillo2004> yahh
08:25:27  <zgrillo2004> *gyah
08:25:32  <zgrillo2004> java screwed up
08:25:35  <zgrillo2004> yea thats it
08:25:37  <zgrillo2004> thanks man
08:25:41  <zgrillo2004> *thumbs up
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08:40:56  <kamnet> You know what would be nice? If tt-forums or openttd.org offered a shortcut URL service to link to posts in the forums.
08:41:40  <kamnet> Or, alternate idea - would it be okay to open a wiki page for my Scott Joplin Anthology set?
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09:18:22  <kamnet> OK this is crazy, I just added my set to bananas, it shows up, I download, it now disappears
09:19:25  <Rubidium> then you've got the same "version" with another md5 checksum already locally
09:21:09  <kamnet> Hrm... well it's not in the gm directory
09:21:32  <kamnet> of either data/ or content_download/
09:23:19  <Rubidium> No music file for: old_9 (in /home/rubidium/.openttd/content_download/gm/scott_joplin_anthology-2/scott_joplin.obm)
09:23:30  <Rubidium> it's basically missing a file and therefor not showing up
09:23:35  <kamnet> OH
09:23:40  <kamnet> okay I know what I did
09:23:53  <kamnet> people complained about the entertaining being in there twice so I eliminated one.
09:30:24  <kamnet> Grrr... now BaNaNas says I can't upload because there's a file with the exact same footprint
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09:33:50  <peter1138> hrm
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09:38:21  <kamnet> Lovely browser crash
09:38:37  <kamnet> Updated to 2.0.1, downloaded again... still not showing up.
09:39:22  <Rubidium> No music file for: ezy_9 (in /home/rubidium/.openttd/content_download/gm/scott_joplin_anthology-2.0.1/scott_joplin.obm)
09:39:32  <kamnet> *slaps forehead*
09:39:47  <kamnet> OK so it has to have the listing for all the slots there, even if there's no music
09:39:56  <Rubidium> yes
09:43:18  <kamnet> OK now how do I get around this same footprint business?
09:44:14  <Rubidium> the md5 checksum of all midi files is used as unique ID for the set, which is that footprint stuff
09:44:53  <Rubidium> so change one of the midis?
09:44:57  <kamnet> So how do you update a package with, say, a new license?
09:45:09  <Rubidium> you can't
09:45:44  <Rubidium> as for OpenTTD (the binary) both versions would be seen as the same in any case
09:46:10  <kamnet> and apparently you cannot upload a correction in the obm files either
09:46:29  <Rubidium> that's a side effect
09:46:38  <kamnet> a rather large one
09:46:52  <Rubidium> though... people that have the "broken
09:46:56  <kamnet> and no way to delete a package off of bananas once it's been uploaded
09:47:17  <Rubidium> people that have the "broken" obm won't be downloading the new obm because the footprint didn't change
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09:48:47  <Rubidium> yes, it may seem like a stupid design decision
09:49:15  <kamnet> So I'm stuck.
09:49:43  <Rubidium> but... it solves a lot of hassle as comparing the ob? file doesn't work quite as well when it has differing newlines
09:50:45  <Rubidium> well... or I could mess with the database with the possibility to completely break SJA
09:50:49  <kamnet> Nah, it's not stupid... just slightly unyielding to a few issues.
09:52:02  <kamnet> if you mess with it and break it, can you roll the database back?
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09:53:35  <Rubidium> try again
09:53:49  <kamnet> try to upload my new file or download from bananas?
09:53:56  <Rubidium> upload
09:54:08  <Rubidium> as downloading SJA won't work anymore
09:58:51  <kamnet> Eureka! Thank you kindly
10:02:35  <kamnet> I am now tired and retired.
10:02:48  <kamnet> I have to be up in 8 hours for work.
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11:32:33  <Wolf01> hello
11:33:15  <__ln__> how many colors would that contain if there wasn't mode +c?
11:34:05  <Eddi|zuHause> i presume there's an upper limit of one per letter :p
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11:34:56  <__ln__> plus the background
11:35:29  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, you're right
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11:36:49  <zaratustra> wow. this is busy
11:38:13  <fjb> Moin
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11:41:30  <planetmaker> moin
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11:42:48  <fjb> Moin planetmaker, how is the weather over there?
11:43:33  <planetmaker> sunny, about 3°C and clear
11:43:38  <planetmaker> so... not bad :-)
11:44:34  <fjb> Same as here. :-)
11:44:37  <Eddi|zuHause> isn't "over there" like in spitting distance? :p
11:44:45  <Wolf01> foggy and rainy, about 10°C
11:45:08  <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: almost :-)
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12:05:51  <fjb> No slapping please. We are a kids friedly channel.
12:06:42  <planetmaker> please don't fry the kids here...
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12:06:50  <Wolf01> lol
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12:08:14  <planetmaker> fjb, and better eat something else also at home, or I'll have to call police ;-)
12:08:52  <fjb> :-P
12:09:41  <Ammler> aren't kids those who slaps and bites the most?
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12:09:52  <fjb> Ammler: Pssssst
12:10:22  <planetmaker> not in fried form...
12:10:41  <planetmaker> or rather not the fried(ly) ones :-P
12:14:12  <Ammler> nightly download broken?
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12:16:25  <Wolf01> mmmh the date functions make extensively use of global variables
12:17:36  <Ammler> us mirror is broken
12:17:40  <Ammler> orudge: ^
12:18:36  <roboboy> Wolf01, I would drop the ly in extensively when used in that context
12:19:20  <Wolf01> yes, I noticed it when I already sent the line
12:19:49  <Ammler> I though, the mirror software does test the mirror and no redirect to broken mirror?
12:21:38  <Ammler> also is it possible, because the us mirror is broken, it got less traffic and therefor more redirects?
12:21:57  <Rubidium> Ammler: the Dutch mirror is broken and out of rotation
12:21:58  <Ammler> and so the chance that europeans got redirected there is higher?
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12:22:31  <Ammler> Rubidium: us too
12:22:53  <Ammler> no recent nightly
12:23:08  <Rubidium> oh, so it's up but mirroring to it failed for some reason
12:23:19  <Rubidium> that's something else than that the mirror is down
12:24:00  <Ammler> never said, it is down :-)
12:24:04  <Ammler> just broken
12:24:10  <Rubidium> broken kinda implies it doesn't work at all
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14:08:16  <Belugas> hello
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14:09:43  <Wolf01> http://www.myfirsttrainzset.com/overview.php yeah
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14:15:28  <zaratustra> that's kind of depressing, wolf
14:22:30  <roboboy> gnight
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14:23:29  <peter1138> hm
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16:08:00  * peter1138 still gives up on a* :s
16:09:22  <peter1138> i'd copy openttd's, but i'd kinda like to understand it :S
16:11:58  <planetmaker> peter1138, and surely you have read the basics before? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm
16:13:30  <SmatZ> you have open nodes ordered by cost function, f(x)=g(x)+h(x), where g(x) is cost to get to node 'x' from start, and h(x) is the expected price (heuristics) to get from 'x' to end
16:13:44  <SmatZ> h(x) must be <= the actual cost to get from 'x' to end
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16:13:59  <SmatZ> you always examine the node with lowest f(x)
16:15:03  <SmatZ> compute f(y) for nodes reachable from x, and update 'y' if the new cost (from 'x') is lower than currently computed f(y)
16:15:22  <SmatZ> or something like that :)
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16:18:05  <LordAro> moin
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16:25:39  <fjb> Moin LordAro
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16:54:49  <ZirconiumX> hello
16:57:54  <SmatZ> hello
16:58:25  <supermop> hello
16:58:30  <ZirconiumX> hello SmatZ
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17:01:16  <Terkhen> yet another hello
17:01:26  <Zuu> does anyone know a FF plugin that lets you view the png metadata in the browser, so you can checkout the OpenTTD version etc. of screenshots without having to save them first?
17:01:27  <SmatZ> hello :)
17:01:58  <Zuu> oh and hello :-)
17:02:04  <ZirconiumX> hah!
17:02:19  *** ZirconiumX is now known as hello
17:02:27  <Zuu> hello hello
17:02:41  <hello> ;)
17:02:50  <hello> lol
17:03:24  <SmatZ> :)
17:04:06  <hello> 10 hellos
17:04:08  <hello> 11
17:06:58  * hello wonders what life would be like if there was a Hello Transport
17:07:02  <hello> oh damn...
17:07:15  <SmatZ> :P
17:07:17  *** hello is now known as ZirconiumX
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17:21:09  <Eddi|zuHause> is that anything like "Hello Kitty"?
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17:25:19  * ZirconiumX has no idea who hello is, nor what Eddi|zuHause has just said
17:28:02  <deepa> Clearly you should Google it
17:28:52  <ZirconiumX> I know *what* hello kitty is, but not *why* he/she has said it
17:34:08  <deepa> You said Hello Transport
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17:37:24  <frosch123> there is no Goodbye Transport though
17:38:06  <ZirconiumX> frosch123: Just as well really, imagine how dull it would be
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17:49:28  * LordAro wonders what everyone is going on about...
17:49:33  <Zuu> Oh, it looks like my OTTDAU log issues is related to that it thinks current nightlies are stable versions and not the actual log format.
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17:50:50  <Zuu> No idea really why though as the version-format doesn't look like it has changed.
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18:24:21  <peter1138> oh, well, that's bloody embarassing :s
18:24:27  <peter1138> i got astar to work
18:24:43  <peter1138> but i was testing, and it couldn't get from 0,0 to 2,2
18:24:51  <peter1138> spent ages on it :(
18:24:59  <peter1138> turns out that 2,2 is a solid block :S
18:25:07  <planetmaker> :-)
18:29:30  <SmatZ> :)
18:31:08  <ZirconiumX> ;)
18:35:49  <peter1138> cool, it even works on my complex terrain
18:39:35  <peter1138> can take a while though, heh
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18:40:44  * ZirconiumX wishes to know how he got it to work, to help me make SPF
18:40:52  <ZirconiumX> (peter1138)
18:41:14  <peter1138> just looking at the numbers, i can see the path wiggles around a bit :D
18:41:22  <peter1138> SPF?
18:41:33  <ZirconiumX> Super Path Finder
18:41:46  <ZirconiumX> I'm writing a PF for AroAI
18:41:55  <peter1138> ah
18:42:02  <peter1138> well... it's "just" astar, as they say :S
18:42:05  <peter1138> it's inefficient
18:42:21  <ZirconiumX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm
18:42:35  <ZirconiumX> look at the list at the side, it might help
18:43:02  <peter1138> well it works now
18:43:08  <peter1138> i'll see how efficient it is
18:43:38  <ZirconiumX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D*
18:43:56  <ZirconiumX> D* might help, as it doesn't goo for a fixed value
18:44:02  <ZirconiumX> (price)
18:44:08  <ZirconiumX> *go
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18:46:17  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21766 /trunk/src/lang/ (15 files): (log message trimmed)
18:46:17  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:46:17  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belarusian - 6 changes by KorneySan, Wowanxm
18:46:17  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 changes by arnau
18:46:17  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: croatian - 1 changes by VoyagerOne
18:46:18  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 1 changes by habell
18:46:18  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: estonian - 1 changes by notAbot
18:48:14  <peter1138> well, i'll probably run the pathfinding in a separate thread
18:49:51  * ZirconiumX is rubbish at noughts and crosses
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19:03:29  * LordAro wonders whether anyone knows of a portable 'make' program...
19:03:42  <ZirconiumX> portable?
19:03:45  <ZirconiumX> gnumake
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19:04:00  <LordAro> yes
19:04:09  <ZirconiumX> why, what do you need it for
19:04:18  <ZirconiumX> I can see if I can do it for you
19:04:30  <ZirconiumX> but use gnumake
19:04:37  <ZirconiumX> if it works on windows
19:05:55  <ZirconiumX> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/make/
19:11:09  <fonsinchen> There is no longer a way to add newgrfs to a scenario after starting the scenario editor, is there?
19:11:30  <Eddi|zuHause> set scenario_developer
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19:14:01  <fonsinchen> thanks
19:36:22  <dihedral> oi
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20:11:17  <V453000> how many frames per second does openttd have?
20:17:52  <dihedral> if a day lasts ~2.4s and has 74frames :-)
20:18:34  <V453000> 30.8333333333
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20:42:39  <dihedral> general programming question: say i have a bot, it can handle commands (e.g. @seen), it can be extended with plugins, plugins can introduce another connection to e.g. IRC or XMPP or any other place where a user can enter a command (in this case @seen)
20:43:19  <dihedral> each of these sources for commands provide different information: IRC provides a channel, nick, host, user
20:43:54  <dihedral> OpenTTD for example only available data is ip, username, user id
20:44:11  <dihedral> how would i decently build a template out of that :-P
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20:44:35  <dihedral> have a separate class for users only used in the context of executing commands?
20:44:57  <planetmaker> not everything can be templated and generalized ;-)
20:46:33  <planetmaker> but a UI class would seem to make sense
20:47:52  <blathijs> dihedral: What do you want to template exactly?
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20:49:02  <dihedral> i want to be able to define a command without knowing from where it's called
20:49:18  <dihedral> 'from where' defines things like irc, xmpp, openttd
20:49:22  <dihedral> and console
20:49:22  <blathijs> dihedral: But what does the template render to? The reply to give, or?
20:49:53  <dihedral> how to get hold of information about the user who executed the command
20:49:55  <dihedral> @seen
20:49:55  <DorpsGek> dihedral: seen [<channel>] <nick>
20:50:13  <dihedral> DorpsGek got hold of 'dihedral'
20:50:21  <dihedral> further information is bound to that nick
20:50:29  <dihedral> e.g. user and host
20:50:40  <dihedral> for xmpp and openttd this information is different
20:50:53  <dihedral> i want to generalize how to get hold of that information, yet i do not know exactly how
20:51:12  <dihedral> further, the process of sending a public / private message back to the user :-P
20:51:34  <dihedral> needs to be generalized a bit too, as the command itself is probably not familiar with the exact process for each source
20:51:55  <dihedral> e.g. for OpenTTD i send either a message or a user / company id + a message.
20:52:11  <dihedral> for IRC it's channel name and message for a public message, etc etc
20:53:02  <blathijs> dihedral: Perhaps you could take the context from the original message?
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20:54:29  <blathijs> e.g., message.reply("Some witty reply") gets routed to the right channel and prefixed with the nickname on IRC, or gets tagged with the company id on OpenTTD, etc.
20:56:57  <planetmaker> then define a generic 'responder' class. With methods to talk to and to get information from as virtual
20:57:04  <DJNekkid> are there any known bugs if a rail translation table is larger then 15 entries?
20:57:28  <planetmaker> they'd be in known_bugs.txt ;-)
20:57:38  <planetmaker> so, no, DJNekkid
20:57:55  <planetmaker> but you could also simply ask your question :-P
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21:14:09  <DJNekkid> what about when an engine have defined a tracktype that is not defined by a railtype, then it would simply be ignored, right?
21:18:42  <Wolf01> 'night
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21:19:14  <dihedral> i'll do more thinking about it :-S
21:19:19  <dihedral> good night ;-)
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21:21:55  <snorre> beta3 crash:  Signal:  Aborted (6), Message: Assertion failed at line 1493 of /usr/src/OpenTTD/compile/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: GetTunnelBridgeTransportType(tile) != TRANSPORT_RAIL.. known problem?
21:22:14  * dihedral is glad it's not his code :-P
21:22:23  <planetmaker> not that I know
21:22:50  <planetmaker> can you make a bug report about that please, snorre ?
21:22:53  <snorre> ok Im filing a bugreport
21:22:58  <planetmaker> thanks
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21:26:02  <snorre> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4397
21:27:01  <planetmaker> got a crash.png as well?
21:27:44  <snorre> sorry. dedicated server
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21:30:00  <planetmaker> oh, missed that. when is the autosave supposed to crash?
21:30:24  <planetmaker> 1942-1-1...
21:31:21  <planetmaker> confirmed
21:32:21  <dihedral> regarding the landscaping / clearing limit
21:32:53  <dihedral> it is not possible to define a low burst and allow a company to gain a greater than burst limit
21:32:56  * planetmaker wonders wonders whether that's related to the (possible) bancruptcy occuring maybe then...
21:33:17  <dihedral> which could be interesting
21:33:34  <dihedral> i.e. allow a company to landscape like 100 tiles but only in 20 tile blocks at a time
21:33:46  <planetmaker> did you test?
21:33:48  <dihedral> this would though have to introduce yet another config setting
21:34:05  <dihedral> ..._max_limit e.g.
21:34:14  <Terkhen> planetmaker: if that is the case, then it is probably something done while removing company property after bankruptcy
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21:35:02  * planetmaker suspects, so. But will get a bt first
21:35:21  <Ammler> dihedral: a working solution is also simply disallow area-tf
21:35:36  <dihedral> Ammler, how :-)
21:35:45  <dihedral> setting the burst to 1? :-P
21:35:55  <dihedral> or rather 4
21:36:25  <Ammler> the bad guys are too lazy for clicking 100 times :-)
21:37:02  <dihedral> ah wait ... never mind :-)
21:37:22  <Ammler> http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/patches/outdated/one_tile_terraform.diff
21:37:49  <Ammler> now make that with a nicer error msg and you are done :-)
21:38:02  <dihedral> we already have a limiting factor Ammler :-)
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21:38:49  <Ammler> ah ok :-)
21:38:59  <dihedral> @calc 65536 / 74
21:38:59  <DorpsGek> dihedral: 885.621621622
21:39:03  <Ammler> I assume, much complicater that that :-P
21:39:36  <dihedral> so you need burst * 885 to result in burst being added every day if possible? was that correct?
21:39:39  <dihedral> @logs
21:39:39  <DorpsGek> dihedral: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd
21:42:32  <planetmaker> hmpf. the backtrack could not be more meaningless
21:43:36  <Rubidium> V453000: a tick, when not fast forwarding and having enough CPU power, takes 30ms. Thus a day is 2.22s and there are 33.|3| ticks in a second
21:43:51  <dihedral> planetmaker, if you are right, assuming it be bankruptcy issues, i could only assume the tunnel being removed before the train inside it
21:44:37  <SmatZ> dihedral: I doubt vehicles are removed AFTER properties
21:44:43  <SmatZ> it would have been found long time ago
21:45:27  <planetmaker> yeah
21:45:29  <dihedral> if a company got removed due to bankruptcy in a beta / rc / nightly
21:45:32  <Terkhen> it must be something introduced recently
21:45:42  <planetmaker> might also not be true. It's only the 2nd quarter I'm asked for that company
21:46:01  <Terkhen> as IIRC we got a bankruptcy related bug report a few months ago
21:46:09  <planetmaker> But it's time not for a nice 8-our hibernation mode, commonly called sleep ;-)
21:46:18  <planetmaker> good night :-)
21:46:23  <Terkhen> good night planetmaker
21:46:33  <SmatZ> good night planetmaker :)
21:47:00  <planetmaker> s/not/now/ of course ;-)
21:48:14  <George> Hi. is it possible that one tile is town zone 3, and the nearby tile is zone 1?
21:48:22  <SmatZ> good thing is that it's perfectly reproducible from the last autosave
21:48:28  <SmatZ> wish all bugreports were like that one :)
21:48:40  <SmatZ> George: iirc yes, for big towns, there is no zone 2
21:48:51  <George> why?
21:49:47  <SmatZ> it was probably that way in TTD
21:51:22  <George> Is there any information about it somewhere? I have to change available town zones checks then
21:52:08  <SmatZ> dihedral: ok, there is a train over that bridge :)
21:52:11  <George> I mean Building availability mask (13) for action 0 for houses
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21:52:34  <dihedral> SmatZ, :-)
21:53:24  <SmatZ> hmm
21:53:31  <SmatZ> but the vehicle should be already removed
21:53:52  <SmatZ> ...
21:53:56  <SmatZ> ignoreme
21:54:24  <dihedral> SmatZ, should? or is!
21:54:35  <SmatZ> dihedral: it is removed
21:54:45  <SmatZ> but still CmdLandscapeClear fails
21:54:47  <dihedral> well, something is left over :-P
21:54:54  <dihedral> smoke?
21:54:58  <SmatZ> and rb has patch already :)
21:55:05  <dihedral> what?
21:55:12  <dihedral> this is insanity :-P
21:55:15  <dihedral> Rubidium, you are too quick
21:55:16  <SmatZ> nope, just broken CmdLandscapeClear
21:55:24  <dihedral> hehe
21:55:30  <dihedral> no fair
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21:58:21  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21767 /trunk/src/landscape.cpp: -Fix [FS#4397]: don't limit tile clearing during bankruptcy
22:00:03  <LordAro> dihedral: wait. how did you know Rubidium had fixed it 3 minutes before he committed?
22:00:25  <Rubidium> LordAro: the magic of literacy
22:01:35  <dihedral> LordAro, to be honest i did not see he had committed it until now :-D
22:01:59  <dihedral> but that is an amusing bug :-)
22:02:24  <LordAro> still not really getting how.. a pm? there's nothing in the bug report or here... ?
22:04:10  <dihedral> look again
22:06:10  <LordAro> ok then, how did SmatZ know? :p
22:06:43  <dihedral> assume there to be something like a developers heaven for the official dev team ;-)
22:07:10  <dihedral> if you aint on the official dev team, you aint welcome in their heaven either :-P
22:07:40  * LordAro likes that idea... :D
22:07:43  <dihedral> even if you know how to technically get to that heaven
22:09:14  <dihedral> some means for them to communicate as a team without the public jibber jabber all over the place ;-)
22:09:23  <SmatZ> side channels
22:09:59  * dihedral looks to the side
22:10:02  <dihedral> i see none :-P
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22:10:44  * LordAro wonders about #openttd.notice
22:11:41  <dihedral> that's not it, but you are welcome to join the notice channel ;-)
22:12:04  <LordAro> what's it for?
22:12:12  <dihedral> consider notice to be a 'prophecy' channel with regards to the CIA messages in here :-P
22:12:23  <SmatZ> secret channels are not visible in the /whois list
22:12:24  <Zuu> There is also a channel for AI developers that sometimes has been used by the devs for other discussions but they also have a channel for themself which I don't know the name of.
22:12:36  <dihedral> SmatZ, yet some of us still know :-P
22:12:37  <SmatZ> joining the secret channel results in ban :P
22:12:50  <Rubidium> .notice is also for feedback of the CF
22:13:05  * LordAro wonders about #openttd.dev ... :D
22:13:14  <Zuu> LordAro: no
22:13:16  <dihedral> LordAro, you will not find it ;-)
22:13:24  <dihedral> .dev is dead
22:13:30  <dihedral> has not been used in ages
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22:13:52  <LordAro> #openttd.rubidium-is-the-most-awesome-person-ever ?
22:13:54  <LordAro> :D
22:14:25  <Rubidium> LordAro: many seem to disagree with that
22:14:54  <dihedral> 'many' = luukland & co?
22:15:09  <Rubidium> nah, even more
22:15:29  <dihedral> well - 'most awesome' might be over the top :-D
22:17:30  <LordAro> known as (slight) sarcasm :p ...though you're still high up there... :)
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22:19:59  <dihedral> good night :-)
22:20:16  <LordAro> good night dihedral
22:20:30  <SmatZ> night dihedral
22:20:38  <LordAro> ...and everyone else for that matter... :) bye!
22:20:48  <SmatZ> bye LordAro
22:21:30  <Zuu> Sounds like a good idea. Night
22:21:49  <SmatZ> good night to you too, Zuu
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22:58:13  <Terkhen> good night
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23:18:48  <lugo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiJeHHGqSSw
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